York City beaten 2-1 at home by Barnet in npower League Two

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YORK City suffered their seventh home defeat of the npower League Two campaign as they lost 2-1 to Barnet.

The Minstermen started the Bootham Crescent clash in top gear and deservedly took the lead through a David Stephens own goal that was credited to City loan striker Michael Rankine after seven minutes.

However, the Bees, skippered by player-manager Edgar Davids, gradually took control of the game and levelled through Andy Yiadom on 25 minutes.

The visitors then edged ahead when substitute Jake Hyde was allowed the space to shift the ball out of his feet, and away from three defenders, to beat a diving Michael Ingham in the 73rd minute.

The Minstermen hit the bar as they threw men forward in injury time, but they were unable to claim a share of the spoils.

The defeat leaves Gary Mills' men in 17th place in the table, seven points above the relegation zone.

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5:25pm Sat 16 Feb 13

legend7 says...

time to get you desk cleared out mills!!!
time to get you desk cleared out mills!!! legend7
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5:29pm Sat 16 Feb 13

haxbyreds says...

What can you say about that?absolute c##p,we have so far backwards hard to see when next win will be.
What can you say about that?absolute c##p,we have so far backwards hard to see when next win will be. haxbyreds
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5:40pm Sat 16 Feb 13

nigthepig says...

We are desperate. That is obvious when we play with so many new loan players. We are getting desperately close to a return to ...........
We are desperate. That is obvious when we play with so many new loan players. We are getting desperately close to a return to ........... nigthepig
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5:40pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Realistic ycfc says...

Very worryingly indeed, as good a manager as GM has proved until he changes his pig headed ways this club is doomed, he's almost showing a terribly over arrogant style to management by insisting he is picking the right players in the right system but like most fans have been saying for weeks and weeks this isn't working, smith and fyfield are so out of touch its frightening and the usually mr dependable kerr is a shadow of his former self, then we have Blair and walker who at one point last season seemed to be scoring for fun, I've said it before and ill say it again if we slip back down to that horrible non league this club is finished so either the mcgills have a serious word with GM or change manager cause this is the clubs future he is dicing with
Very worryingly indeed, as good a manager as GM has proved until he changes his pig headed ways this club is doomed, he's almost showing a terribly over arrogant style to management by insisting he is picking the right players in the right system but like most fans have been saying for weeks and weeks this isn't working, smith and fyfield are so out of touch its frightening and the usually mr dependable kerr is a shadow of his former self, then we have Blair and walker who at one point last season seemed to be scoring for fun, I've said it before and ill say it again if we slip back down to that horrible non league this club is finished so either the mcgills have a serious word with GM or change manager cause this is the clubs future he is dicing with Realistic ycfc
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5:43pm Sat 16 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

Willing to admit I may have been wrong about Mills. We were bad enough to start with, but to take Ranks off when he's the only player of ours to have scored from open play in quite a few games, and the only player of ours who was winning headers, is totally inexplicable. A stupid move, made no sense, and predictably made us toothless.

Equally, why on earth change the centreback pairing from tuesday who did so very well? It's not even a case of Smith being bad (I personally don't think he's so terrible), but why change something which was working almost perfectly less than a week ago?

The players on the pitch tonight were, for the most part, dreadful - but Mills failed to make any positive changes. The board should think of a realistic ultimatum - say, 4 points from the next two games - otherwise we should look for someone else. It's a real shame, Mills has done more for this club than anyone for a very long time, but he's just not reacting to the challenges of this league fast enough.
Willing to admit I may have been wrong about Mills. We were bad enough to start with, but to take Ranks off when he's the only player of ours to have scored from open play in quite a few games, and the only player of ours who was winning headers, is totally inexplicable. A stupid move, made no sense, and predictably made us toothless. Equally, why on earth change the centreback pairing from tuesday who did so very well? It's not even a case of Smith being bad (I personally don't think he's so terrible), but why change something which was working almost perfectly less than a week ago? The players on the pitch tonight were, for the most part, dreadful - but Mills failed to make any positive changes. The board should think of a realistic ultimatum - say, 4 points from the next two games - otherwise we should look for someone else. It's a real shame, Mills has done more for this club than anyone for a very long time, but he's just not reacting to the challenges of this league fast enough. YorkCityLuke
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5:43pm Sat 16 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

If this is how York City approach a vital game that we need to win - "Then God help us". We were absolutely awful today, and I fear the worst.
If this is how York City approach a vital game that we need to win - "Then God help us". We were absolutely awful today, and I fear the worst. OLD - HEAD
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5:51pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Prob says...

Even the most avid "keep the faith" fans must be worried now. Things are going very wrong very quickly.
Even the most avid "keep the faith" fans must be worried now. Things are going very wrong very quickly. Prob
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5:53pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

We are actually going backwards week after week. The mistakes happened right at the start of the season when the defence was not strengthened and its a total shambles with frankly everyone of them conference standard. Smith back in with Parslow moved was a total joke and half the team did not have a clue what they were doing. It's a conference team heading back to the conference with a manager that just won't change either the formation which does not work or leave his favourites out of the team even when it makes no sense. Players like Kerr, Paddy, Blair are just a shadow of their former selves. The club has to come before the man I'm afraid. We could do another Brass and just hang on in hope but where is the next win coming from ?
Sorry but Mills is just not a league level manager and we have to act to save the club.
We are actually going backwards week after week. The mistakes happened right at the start of the season when the defence was not strengthened and its a total shambles with frankly everyone of them conference standard. Smith back in with Parslow moved was a total joke and half the team did not have a clue what they were doing. It's a conference team heading back to the conference with a manager that just won't change either the formation which does not work or leave his favourites out of the team even when it makes no sense. Players like Kerr, Paddy, Blair are just a shadow of their former selves. The club has to come before the man I'm afraid. We could do another Brass and just hang on in hope but where is the next win coming from ? Sorry but Mills is just not a league level manager and we have to act to save the club. duffy
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5:55pm Sat 16 Feb 13

openallhours says...

Message to Mills, Gee & Lyttle... pack up your things and don't come back. It's perfectly clear that you have absolutely no idea how to run a league club. I said before this season started we needed somebody like Paul Ince or a manager with league experience. Yet another home defeat to a team below us and as for Mills' selection and tactics... the man is clearly mentally ill!
Message to Mills, Gee & Lyttle... pack up your things and don't come back. It's perfectly clear that you have absolutely no idea how to run a league club. I said before this season started we needed somebody like Paul Ince or a manager with league experience. Yet another home defeat to a team below us and as for Mills' selection and tactics... the man is clearly mentally ill! openallhours
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5:58pm Sat 16 Feb 13

fishboy says...

we started so well, we even scored a goal and then we went backwards, no fight no nothing, we were awful. rankine was they only one up for the fight and look what happened when he went off? why dosen't Mills try walker with rankine 442, barnet was there for the taking. That was one of the worst games i've seen for a while, mills needs to go before we get dragged further into the ****.
we started so well, we even scored a goal and then we went backwards, no fight no nothing, we were awful. rankine was they only one up for the fight and look what happened when he went off? why dosen't Mills try walker with rankine 442, barnet was there for the taking. That was one of the worst games i've seen for a while, mills needs to go before we get dragged further into the ****. fishboy
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6:04pm Sat 16 Feb 13

PositiveFootball says...

Started really well today but sadly it all went ***s up! A loss made all the more worse by grown men screaming hysterically in the DL stand - get a grip and man up!
Started really well today but sadly it all went ***s up! A loss made all the more worse by grown men screaming hysterically in the DL stand - get a grip and man up! PositiveFootball
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6:06pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Yorkess says...

I don't know what to say.........honestly I'm speechless.
I don't know what to say.........honestly I'm speechless. Yorkess
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6:17pm Sat 16 Feb 13

pip007 says...

We won't go down.
We won't go down. pip007
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6:22pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

pip007 wrote:
We won't go down.
That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.
[quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: We won't go down.[/p][/quote]That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November. duffy
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6:31pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Garrowby Turnoff says...

It's the lack of balls that rankles me. The City players looked frightened and relegation is a real threat. As supporters we mustn't add to the tension, but it'll take a strong turnaround from playing this barmy diamond shape and re-coaching a new system with wobbly loan players who couldn't give a monkeys..
It's the lack of balls that rankles me. The City players looked frightened and relegation is a real threat. As supporters we mustn't add to the tension, but it'll take a strong turnaround from playing this barmy diamond shape and re-coaching a new system with wobbly loan players who couldn't give a monkeys.. Garrowby Turnoff
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6:31pm Sat 16 Feb 13

joejamestom says...

Back to basics Gary 442 stuff all the players can play & in case you have not noticed Smudger in = no clean sheet = keeper with lack of confidence in defence. Ranks ran out of steam in first half along with Ash neither match fit yet Fyfield was having one of his fuzzy low energy games. I thought with a goal in the first 10 we would be away & clear at HT but no we let a poor team into the game very bad day at office there must be enough players at the club that really want it. Sacking managers just not the way to do it but Jason should be asking his coaching staff some very hard questions. For me Smith no captain just not capable of leading team & taking care of CB role need a change there too some symbolic reshuffle to freshen up the lads, Cmon City with some clubs having games in hand we look vulnerable if they get a run going.
Back to basics Gary 442 stuff all the players can play & in case you have not noticed Smudger in = no clean sheet = keeper with lack of confidence in defence. Ranks ran out of steam in first half along with Ash neither match fit yet Fyfield was having one of his fuzzy low energy games. I thought with a goal in the first 10 we would be away & clear at HT but no we let a poor team into the game very bad day at office there must be enough players at the club that really want it. Sacking managers just not the way to do it but Jason should be asking his coaching staff some very hard questions. For me Smith no captain just not capable of leading team & taking care of CB role need a change there too some symbolic reshuffle to freshen up the lads, Cmon City with some clubs having games in hand we look vulnerable if they get a run going. joejamestom
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6:49pm Sat 16 Feb 13

headhunter100 says...

Complete crap, maybe someone will start listening when scouts tell them of decent young talent who can be coached, who have listening skills and work very hard. Mill's never answered my letter when I tell him of talent, torpey should be choosing decent young lads to play who show passion and not arrogance, and Mills should take an interest and look down the line instead of relying on crap
Complete crap, maybe someone will start listening when scouts tell them of decent young talent who can be coached, who have listening skills and work very hard. Mill's never answered my letter when I tell him of talent, torpey should be choosing decent young lads to play who show passion and not arrogance, and Mills should take an interest and look down the line instead of relying on crap headhunter100
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6:50pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Mad for Minstermen says...

Happy clappers stay clear of this site. Taxi for Mills ! Surely the end is nigh. He was great last year but has been unable to step up to Division 2. We must change manager now to see us keep our league status or its back to the wilderness and everything achieved last term will have been for nothing. Sorry Gary, it's someone else's turn, you did good but it's a results business and our downward spiral unfortunately lies squarely at your door.
Happy clappers stay clear of this site. Taxi for Mills ! Surely the end is nigh. He was great last year but has been unable to step up to Division 2. We must change manager now to see us keep our league status or its back to the wilderness and everything achieved last term will have been for nothing. Sorry Gary, it's someone else's turn, you did good but it's a results business and our downward spiral unfortunately lies squarely at your door. Mad for Minstermen
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6:53pm Sat 16 Feb 13

arsene.about.york says...

TAXI FOR MILLS and GEE and LYTTLE that was dreadful and for all you people saying we scored first, no we didn't it was an own goal. There are so many questions to be asked about that I don't know where to start. Why not 442 ? Why take Rankine off and replace him with a midget ? Why don't any of our players show any fight in the opposition penalty area ? Why bring Calamity Smith back after we played so well on Tuesday. Unless we change manager soon we are heading back to the Blue Square hell hole.
TAXI FOR MILLS and GEE and LYTTLE that was dreadful and for all you people saying we scored first, no we didn't it was an own goal. There are so many questions to be asked about that I don't know where to start. Why not 442 ? Why take Rankine off and replace him with a midget ? Why don't any of our players show any fight in the opposition penalty area ? Why bring Calamity Smith back after we played so well on Tuesday. Unless we change manager soon we are heading back to the Blue Square hell hole. arsene.about.york
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6:58pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Mad for Minstermen says...

Here, here, arsene. Agree wholeheartedly. Couldn't be there today, someone was looking down on me !!
Here, here, arsene. Agree wholeheartedly. Couldn't be there today, someone was looking down on me !! Mad for Minstermen
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7:13pm Sat 16 Feb 13

bertieb says...

An absolute disgrace. Mills is so pig-headed it is unbelievable. Taking Rankine off was nonsensical, as was playing Calamity Captain Smith and persisting with the discredited 4-3-3 system. This was a horror show, which should seal Mills' fate.
An absolute disgrace. Mills is so pig-headed it is unbelievable. Taking Rankine off was nonsensical, as was playing Calamity Captain Smith and persisting with the discredited 4-3-3 system. This was a horror show, which should seal Mills' fate. bertieb
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7:20pm Sat 16 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

duffy wrote:
pip007 wrote:
We won't go down.
That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.
I don't believe we'll go down, although much less confident about it after todays debacle. The only thing that gives me hope is that we can, occasionally, play well (as on tuesday), and that there are other teams who are doing just as poorly. Changes need to be made though, today was a disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: We won't go down.[/p][/quote]That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.[/p][/quote]I don't believe we'll go down, although much less confident about it after todays debacle. The only thing that gives me hope is that we can, occasionally, play well (as on tuesday), and that there are other teams who are doing just as poorly. Changes need to be made though, today was a disgrace. YorkCityLuke
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7:21pm Sat 16 Feb 13

James1992 says...

Mills needs to realise he can't just have a plan A!

Relentlessly playing 4-3-3 when it hasnt worked for weeks. Something needs to change and soon.

Having said that, some fans need to realise we were never going to go up.

First season back in the Football League if you'd offered me survival at the start I'd have bitten your hand off.
Mills needs to realise he can't just have a plan A! Relentlessly playing 4-3-3 when it hasnt worked for weeks. Something needs to change and soon. Having said that, some fans need to realise we were never going to go up. First season back in the Football League if you'd offered me survival at the start I'd have bitten your hand off. James1992
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7:23pm Sat 16 Feb 13

neutral observer 2 says...

7 points from bottom isnt bottom.
New manager will still have the same players to put on the pitch.
We will still get the required points to stay up with Mills.
Can anyone tell me when did York last look like some non losing premiership side ?
York fluked its promotion last year, didnt change any of the back 4, so what do you expect ?
7 points from bottom isnt bottom. New manager will still have the same players to put on the pitch. We will still get the required points to stay up with Mills. Can anyone tell me when did York last look like some non losing premiership side ? York fluked its promotion last year, didnt change any of the back 4, so what do you expect ? neutral observer 2
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7:27pm Sat 16 Feb 13

neutral observer 2 says...

duffy wrote:
pip007 wrote:
We won't go down.
That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.
No it wasnt.
We needed a point at Man City.
And had ample chance to stave off the conference.
It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board.
If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: We won't go down.[/p][/quote]That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.[/p][/quote]No it wasnt. We needed a point at Man City. And had ample chance to stave off the conference. It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board. If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ? neutral observer 2
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7:28pm Sat 16 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

neutral observer 2 wrote:
7 points from bottom isnt bottom.
New manager will still have the same players to put on the pitch.
We will still get the required points to stay up with Mills.
Can anyone tell me when did York last look like some non losing premiership side ?
York fluked its promotion last year, didnt change any of the back 4, so what do you expect ?
How did we fluke promotion? We finished in the play-off positions, won the semi finals, then won the final - what's so lucky about that?

There are games we've lost where many of the fans (myself included) have accepted the result as a consequence of us being a new league team finding its feet (e.g. the home loss against Exeter.). But today, and the Morecambe game, were just unacceptable. The players didn't look interested, and the manager failed to make the correct changes - which is his job. We owe Mills an awful lot for last season, but if he keeps losing in that fashion we'll be back where we started.
[quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: 7 points from bottom isnt bottom. New manager will still have the same players to put on the pitch. We will still get the required points to stay up with Mills. Can anyone tell me when did York last look like some non losing premiership side ? York fluked its promotion last year, didnt change any of the back 4, so what do you expect ?[/p][/quote]How did we fluke promotion? We finished in the play-off positions, won the semi finals, then won the final - what's so lucky about that? There are games we've lost where many of the fans (myself included) have accepted the result as a consequence of us being a new league team finding its feet (e.g. the home loss against Exeter.). But today, and the Morecambe game, were just unacceptable. The players didn't look interested, and the manager failed to make the correct changes - which is his job. We owe Mills an awful lot for last season, but if he keeps losing in that fashion we'll be back where we started. YorkCityLuke
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7:29pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Bert brennan says...

That was abysmal, players failing to perform to an acceptable level, a Management Team that is devoid of any
remedies, a Chairman who by his lack of action will sink with his stricken ship,
alas York City. Your Owners and
Crew let you down. The real HMS York is already History, is the Football
Team going the same way?
That was abysmal, players failing to perform to an acceptable level, a Management Team that is devoid of any remedies, a Chairman who by his lack of action will sink with his stricken ship, alas York City. Your Owners and Crew let you down. The real HMS York is already History, is the Football Team going the same way? Bert brennan
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7:43pm Sat 16 Feb 13

minstermen says...

Would love to ask jamie reed what the problem is in the dressing room and if the players have lost respect for mills now that he has moved on and there would be no repercussions ?
Would love to ask jamie reed what the problem is in the dressing room and if the players have lost respect for mills now that he has moved on and there would be no repercussions ? minstermen
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7:45pm Sat 16 Feb 13

openallhours says...

The argument of 'a new manager wouldn't make any difference' doesn't wash with me. Barnet were dead in the water until Davids came in and Bristol Rovers were rooted to the bottom until a certain Mr Ward came in and now they never lose a game. We have a good squad of players at the club and most fans that post on here could pick a side that would do better than Mills. Lets get Keith Curle in to make us a proper league club again!
The argument of 'a new manager wouldn't make any difference' doesn't wash with me. Barnet were dead in the water until Davids came in and Bristol Rovers were rooted to the bottom until a certain Mr Ward came in and now they never lose a game. We have a good squad of players at the club and most fans that post on here could pick a side that would do better than Mills. Lets get Keith Curle in to make us a proper league club again! openallhours
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7:46pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
pip007 wrote:
We won't go down.
That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.
No it wasnt.
We needed a point at Man City.
And had ample chance to stave off the conference.
It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board.
If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?
Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?
[quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: We won't go down.[/p][/quote]That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.[/p][/quote]No it wasnt. We needed a point at Man City. And had ample chance to stave off the conference. It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board. If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?[/p][/quote]Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ? duffy
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7:47pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
7 points from bottom isnt bottom.
New manager will still have the same players to put on the pitch.
We will still get the required points to stay up with Mills.
Can anyone tell me when did York last look like some non losing premiership side ?
York fluked its promotion last year, didnt change any of the back 4, so what do you expect ?
How did we fluke promotion? We finished in the play-off positions, won the semi finals, then won the final - what's so lucky about that?

There are games we've lost where many of the fans (myself included) have accepted the result as a consequence of us being a new league team finding its feet (e.g. the home loss against Exeter.). But today, and the Morecambe game, were just unacceptable. The players didn't look interested, and the manager failed to make the correct changes - which is his job. We owe Mills an awful lot for last season, but if he keeps losing in that fashion we'll be back where we started.
The last couple of his lines are a bit of a pi@@ take.
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: 7 points from bottom isnt bottom. New manager will still have the same players to put on the pitch. We will still get the required points to stay up with Mills. Can anyone tell me when did York last look like some non losing premiership side ? York fluked its promotion last year, didnt change any of the back 4, so what do you expect ?[/p][/quote]How did we fluke promotion? We finished in the play-off positions, won the semi finals, then won the final - what's so lucky about that? There are games we've lost where many of the fans (myself included) have accepted the result as a consequence of us being a new league team finding its feet (e.g. the home loss against Exeter.). But today, and the Morecambe game, were just unacceptable. The players didn't look interested, and the manager failed to make the correct changes - which is his job. We owe Mills an awful lot for last season, but if he keeps losing in that fashion we'll be back where we started.[/p][/quote]The last couple of his lines are a bit of a pi@@ take. duffy
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8:00pm Sat 16 Feb 13

neutral observer 2 says...

duffy wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
pip007 wrote:
We won't go down.
That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.
No it wasnt.
We needed a point at Man City.
And had ample chance to stave off the conference.
It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board.
If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?
Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?
I dont know what Dolan has to do with anything.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: We won't go down.[/p][/quote]That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.[/p][/quote]No it wasnt. We needed a point at Man City. And had ample chance to stave off the conference. It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board. If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?[/p][/quote]Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?[/p][/quote]I dont know what Dolan has to do with anything. neutral observer 2
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8:05pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
pip007 wrote:
We won't go down.
That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.
No it wasnt.
We needed a point at Man City.
And had ample chance to stave off the conference.
It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board.
If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?
Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?
I dont know what Dolan has to do with anything.
Your writing style reminds me of someone who though the biggest injustice the club ever instigated was sacking terry Dolan.
[quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: We won't go down.[/p][/quote]That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.[/p][/quote]No it wasnt. We needed a point at Man City. And had ample chance to stave off the conference. It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board. If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?[/p][/quote]Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?[/p][/quote]I dont know what Dolan has to do with anything.[/p][/quote]Your writing style reminds me of someone who though the biggest injustice the club ever instigated was sacking terry Dolan. duffy
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8:22pm Sat 16 Feb 13

big mobe says...

Could not be at BC today due to circumstances,but managed to listen to most of it on radio. Good start maybe but seemed to lose our way.
Biggest shock was G.Mills in post match interview, who more or less showed he does not have a clue how to turn this situation round, and said he was not doing his job. He also said the players were sloppy. This spells disaster for the club. It has to be said that most of our players are not good enough for this league-there is still a big gulf from conference leagues to football league. Mr Mills still persists playing this diamond formation- it does not work but he seems to have no plan "B". the squad was not strengthend at the start of the season and these loan players are not better than we had already. Most of them are lightweight and most lacking in height.
Time for change Mr Mc Gill.
Could not be at BC today due to circumstances,but managed to listen to most of it on radio. Good start maybe but seemed to lose our way. Biggest shock was G.Mills in post match interview, who more or less showed he does not have a clue how to turn this situation round, and said he was not doing his job. He also said the players were sloppy. This spells disaster for the club. It has to be said that most of our players are not good enough for this league-there is still a big gulf from conference leagues to football league. Mr Mills still persists playing this diamond formation- it does not work but he seems to have no plan "B". the squad was not strengthend at the start of the season and these loan players are not better than we had already. Most of them are lightweight and most lacking in height. Time for change Mr Mc Gill. big mobe
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8:22pm Sat 16 Feb 13

rupertbehr says...

Prob wrote:
Even the most avid "keep the faith" fans must be worried now. Things are going very wrong very quickly.
YEP !!! I'm one of them, but don't just blame Millsy, listen to what the players said on the radio. ......They didn't do what they were told to do.
Push forward, keep the pressure on and play the game in their half.
DO NOT sit back and allow them into the game !!! ...... HELLO.
However, as most people here are aware I'm a big Millsy fan, that said I do believe the Boss made a big mistake today, the chance to prove an attacking 4-4-2 option with Jason joining Ranks upfront could/would have proved fruitful. .......Hey Ho
Lets just try it Gary. Please !
[quote][p][bold]Prob[/bold] wrote: Even the most avid "keep the faith" fans must be worried now. Things are going very wrong very quickly.[/p][/quote]YEP !!! I'm one of them, but don't just blame Millsy, listen to what the players said on the radio. ......They didn't do what they were told to do. Push forward, keep the pressure on and play the game in their half. DO NOT sit back and allow them into the game !!! ...... HELLO. However, as most people here are aware I'm a big Millsy fan, that said I do believe the Boss made a big mistake today, the chance to prove an attacking 4-4-2 option with Jason joining Ranks upfront could/would have proved fruitful. .......Hey Ho Lets just try it Gary. Please ! rupertbehr
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8:27pm Sat 16 Feb 13

tips says...

Cannot believe how a team which played with such passion and conviction on Tuesday could play so poorly today.
Smith back in defence after Parslow had played so well there last Tuesday seemed to unsettle us at the back.
Garry PLEASE try 442 with Walker feeding off the impressive Rankine .
We need to start scoring goals soon or the inevitable will happen.
Garry Mill's prove you are a good manager and keep us up . After all your efforts to get us back in the league don't let it slip through our fingers.
Take tough decisions and do it now before it's too late
Cannot believe how a team which played with such passion and conviction on Tuesday could play so poorly today. Smith back in defence after Parslow had played so well there last Tuesday seemed to unsettle us at the back. Garry PLEASE try 442 with Walker feeding off the impressive Rankine . We need to start scoring goals soon or the inevitable will happen. Garry Mill's prove you are a good manager and keep us up . After all your efforts to get us back in the league don't let it slip through our fingers. Take tough decisions and do it now before it's too late tips
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8:30pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Dortmun says...

Whats up with everyone saying GM does not have a plan B?
Of course he does, its putting Chris Smith up front as a striker!!!!!!!!
Whats up with everyone saying GM does not have a plan B? Of course he does, its putting Chris Smith up front as a striker!!!!!!!! Dortmun
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8:30pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

First 10 mins we were OK but after we scored why did we decide to sit back and let Barnet come at us! When Barnet scored their second I counted 5 yes that is 5 of our defenders around 1 yes 1 Barnet p[layer who had just scored. Mr Mills's interview with BP after the game (listening in the the van) was no better, he just kept rampling on about us losing the ball from OUR throwing and a second later they had scored. We should make Chris Jones manager he seems to talk alot more sense than Mills.
Yes I know Mills got us out of the conference but he seems totally out of he depth in Div2.
I'll say it again Smith is Mills's love child.
There was a ball in the second hlf which Smith passed to Fyfield and it was crap, you should have seen the glare Fyfeild gave Smith.
First 10 mins we were OK but after we scored why did we decide to sit back and let Barnet come at us! When Barnet scored their second I counted 5 yes that is 5 of our defenders around 1 yes 1 Barnet p[layer who had just scored. Mr Mills's interview with BP after the game (listening in the the van) was no better, he just kept rampling on about us losing the ball from OUR throwing and a second later they had scored. We should make Chris Jones manager he seems to talk alot more sense than Mills. Yes I know Mills got us out of the conference but he seems totally out of he depth in Div2. I'll say it again Smith is Mills's love child. There was a ball in the second hlf which Smith passed to Fyfield and it was crap, you should have seen the glare Fyfeild gave Smith. Helliwell's Not a Donkey
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8:31pm Sat 16 Feb 13

dangermoose says...

This can't be allowed to go on much longer.
The club can't afford to go down what with all the plans for the new ground.
D-day looms I'm afraid, the club is bigger than anyone man, his coaching team mates, his love child players. I could go on.
Ask Gary if there is a Plan B? He'll say yes, he is a singer.
4-5-1 (or 4-3-3 for the happy clappers) STILL is not working at home, but guess what, we still bloody do it.
Mills has and always will be a legend at City. Before it turns too sour is it not time Jason?
This can't be allowed to go on much longer. The club can't afford to go down what with all the plans for the new ground. D-day looms I'm afraid, the club is bigger than anyone man, his coaching team mates, his love child players. I could go on. Ask Gary if there is a Plan B? He'll say yes, he is a singer. 4-5-1 (or 4-3-3 for the happy clappers) STILL is not working at home, but guess what, we still bloody do it. Mills has and always will be a legend at City. Before it turns too sour is it not time Jason? dangermoose
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8:32pm Sat 16 Feb 13

barcooter says...

For f&*ks sake mills, pick the best 11, play a 4-4-2, then ask them to play attacking football every week. That is all that is required in this league.

Football is a simple game made to look difficult by idiots.
For f&*ks sake mills, pick the best 11, play a 4-4-2, then ask them to play attacking football every week. That is all that is required in this league. Football is a simple game made to look difficult by idiots. barcooter
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8:37pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

Also can you see us winning at Oxford and then Rotherham......
Also can you see us winning at Oxford and then Rotherham...... Helliwell's Not a Donkey
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8:43pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

Then home to Bradford, away at Wimbldon (maybe a draw there), in fact I can only see us getting a result possibly at home to Plymouth and Accrington in our run-in. But then I thought we might get a result today. NOW VERY WORRIED.
Then home to Bradford, away at Wimbldon (maybe a draw there), in fact I can only see us getting a result possibly at home to Plymouth and Accrington in our run-in. But then I thought we might get a result today. NOW VERY WORRIED. Helliwell's Not a Donkey
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8:57pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

No cityforthepremier on here tonight then, what a shock.
No cityforthepremier on here tonight then, what a shock. duffy
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9:01pm Sat 16 Feb 13

paddymacwakey says...

i agree with york city luke and a lot more on here.after york played so well against gillingham,mills should have left parslow and o,connell in the middle of the back four,and left smith on the bench.he could have put obeng at right back and put paddy into midfield.like many posts on here,unless mills changes the system at home,i cant see where the next win is coming from.we need every player between now and the end of the season to bust a gut for this club.loan players wont give a toss what happens to york when they go back to there respective clubs.i still believe if mills had been more attack minded at home at the start of the season,we would be comfortable mid table by now.saying all that,there are players like blair,mclaughlin,ker
r,not showing anything like the form from last season.and before anybody says anything about league football,there are a lot of better teams in the blue square premier.the simple truth is that gary mills has not strengthened the team from the start of the season.we just havnt been good enough against a lot of mediocre teams that have visited bootham crescent.
i agree with york city luke and a lot more on here.after york played so well against gillingham,mills should have left parslow and o,connell in the middle of the back four,and left smith on the bench.he could have put obeng at right back and put paddy into midfield.like many posts on here,unless mills changes the system at home,i cant see where the next win is coming from.we need every player between now and the end of the season to bust a gut for this club.loan players wont give a toss what happens to york when they go back to there respective clubs.i still believe if mills had been more attack minded at home at the start of the season,we would be comfortable mid table by now.saying all that,there are players like blair,mclaughlin,ker r,not showing anything like the form from last season.and before anybody says anything about league football,there are a lot of better teams in the blue square premier.the simple truth is that gary mills has not strengthened the team from the start of the season.we just havnt been good enough against a lot of mediocre teams that have visited bootham crescent. paddymacwakey
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9:03pm Sat 16 Feb 13

bill bailey says...

I would ask the Pope before he finishes to come and read "THE LAST RIGHTS,". unless the manager and his lefthand men is shown the door, and replaced by, someone like Nick Barmby,
Gerry Francis,Des Bulpin.
I would ask the Pope before he finishes to come and read "THE LAST RIGHTS,". unless the manager and his lefthand men is shown the door, and replaced by, someone like Nick Barmby, Gerry Francis,Des Bulpin. bill bailey
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9:04pm Sat 16 Feb 13

kirbylad says...

Time up gary mills show him the door get a manager in who will give these players a kick up the backsides scrap this stupid diamond system and drop mills blue eyed boys mabye then city can stave off relegation.p.s. couldnt believe taking rankine off our only hope.
Time up gary mills show him the door get a manager in who will give these players a kick up the backsides scrap this stupid diamond system and drop mills blue eyed boys mabye then city can stave off relegation.p.s. couldnt believe taking rankine off our only hope. kirbylad
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9:09pm Sat 16 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

wellt it proves how bad things have become when i read posts on hear from all the happy clappers,now even they are starting to see the mess we are in.mills is no good as a league manager and should be sacked as soon as he turns up for work monday..thanks for the happy time last season but it will count for nothing if we end up non-league again..its time to bring in someone who can inspire some belief and commitment to the cause..to save our club..if we go out of the league again that will be the end for york city football club..whats the point if we don't have the cash..mills please go now..have some self respect and walk away..your team is a joke.
wellt it proves how bad things have become when i read posts on hear from all the happy clappers,now even they are starting to see the mess we are in.mills is no good as a league manager and should be sacked as soon as he turns up for work monday..thanks for the happy time last season but it will count for nothing if we end up non-league again..its time to bring in someone who can inspire some belief and commitment to the cause..to save our club..if we go out of the league again that will be the end for york city football club..whats the point if we don't have the cash..mills please go now..have some self respect and walk away..your team is a joke. redbluelion
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9:18pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cityforthepremier says...

duffy wrote:
No cityforthepremier on here tonight then, what a shock.
thats where your wrong ive always got one eye on the rubbish you write one here & believe me there is some rubbish on here tonight!
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: No cityforthepremier on here tonight then, what a shock.[/p][/quote]thats where your wrong ive always got one eye on the rubbish you write one here & believe me there is some rubbish on here tonight! cityforthepremier
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9:18pm Sat 16 Feb 13

tomwillo1 says...

You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.
You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS. tomwillo1
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9:20pm Sat 16 Feb 13

spockboy2 says...

I would like to ask the Mcgill
1)
''do you still think you have the right manager /coaches and staff for the job' ?
2)
Do you intend to take your money out
of the club when we go down and how much profit will you make on the return.? (your pension fund)

3) Is the club really serious about a new ground when we go down.?

4)Do you feel sorry for all the happy clappers who kiss your boots for saving our club and turn up to watch the crap I have paid to watch all season as a season ticket holder.?

At least make a statement on the sad ongoing demise of our great club yet gain.
----------------
Never thought I would say this but ''MILLS OUT'' !
I would like to ask the Mcgill 1) ''do you still think you have the right manager /coaches and staff for the job' ? 2) Do you intend to take your money out of the club when we go down and how much profit will you make on the return.? (your pension fund) 3) Is the club really serious about a new ground when we go down.? 4)Do you feel sorry for all the happy clappers who kiss your boots for saving our club and turn up to watch the crap I have paid to watch all season as a season ticket holder.? At least make a statement on the sad ongoing demise of our great club yet gain. ---------------- Never thought I would say this but ''MILLS OUT'' ! spockboy2
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9:24pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cityforthepremier says...

so come on then duffers what would you have done different today?
so come on then duffers what would you have done different today? cityforthepremier
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9:25pm Sat 16 Feb 13

openallhours says...

duffy wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
pip007 wrote:
We won't go down.
That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.
No it wasnt.
We needed a point at Man City.
And had ample chance to stave off the conference.
It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board.
If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?
Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?
I dont know what Dolan has to do with anything.
Your writing style reminds me of someone who though the biggest injustice the club ever instigated was sacking terry Dolan.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Our decline was brought about by Dolan leaving. The board took a gamble by appointing Brass and look how that turned out. One poster pointed out that Mills has a better win rate than Dolan... Dolan didn't have the luxury of playing the likes of Farsley Celtic, Weymouth, Kettering etc. Also, factor in the FA trophy which pits us against Sunday league teams so of course Mills has a higher win percentage. Shame that Mills didn't learn from Clough (Clough turned average players into winners and Gay Mills turns good players into losers).
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: We won't go down.[/p][/quote]That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.[/p][/quote]No it wasnt. We needed a point at Man City. And had ample chance to stave off the conference. It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board. If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?[/p][/quote]Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?[/p][/quote]I dont know what Dolan has to do with anything.[/p][/quote]Your writing style reminds me of someone who though the biggest injustice the club ever instigated was sacking terry Dolan.[/p][/quote]I've said it before and I'll say it again. Our decline was brought about by Dolan leaving. The board took a gamble by appointing Brass and look how that turned out. One poster pointed out that Mills has a better win rate than Dolan... Dolan didn't have the luxury of playing the likes of Farsley Celtic, Weymouth, Kettering etc. Also, factor in the FA trophy which pits us against Sunday league teams so of course Mills has a higher win percentage. Shame that Mills didn't learn from Clough (Clough turned average players into winners and Gay Mills turns good players into losers). openallhours
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9:27pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

cityforthepremier wrote:
duffy wrote:
No cityforthepremier on here tonight then, what a shock.
thats where your wrong ive always got one eye on the rubbish you write one here & believe me there is some rubbish on here tonight!
Start of the season I stated that Mills was too loyal to the conference squad.
I stated the defence needed strengthening as it made far too many individual mistakes.That this was a lower midtable team. That playing players out of position would cost us at this level. Let me think of some of the players I thought should have been released. Parslow, Fyfield,Smith, Challinor.
Yes I really got things wrong.
[quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: No cityforthepremier on here tonight then, what a shock.[/p][/quote]thats where your wrong ive always got one eye on the rubbish you write one here & believe me there is some rubbish on here tonight![/p][/quote]Start of the season I stated that Mills was too loyal to the conference squad. I stated the defence needed strengthening as it made far too many individual mistakes.That this was a lower midtable team. That playing players out of position would cost us at this level. Let me think of some of the players I thought should have been released. Parslow, Fyfield,Smith, Challinor. Yes I really got things wrong. duffy
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9:32pm Sat 16 Feb 13

openallhours says...

tomwillo1 wrote:
You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.
You remind me of yorkcityluke. But like that poster, you will get the message... problem is, we'll be out of business by then. Also, to say that struggling teams fans don't turn on the manager is like saying Kev Webster from Corrie doesn't like kids!
[quote][p][bold]tomwillo1[/bold] wrote: You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.[/p][/quote]You remind me of yorkcityluke. But like that poster, you will get the message... problem is, we'll be out of business by then. Also, to say that struggling teams fans don't turn on the manager is like saying Kev Webster from Corrie doesn't like kids! openallhours
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9:38pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

tomwillo1 wrote:
You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.
They actually do on a regular basis. I've tried to be supportive of Mills despite many of his decisions but what we don't need again is the embarrasing sight of cityforthepremier and his happy clapper mates on the pitch at the end of the season doing a Brass mark two and cheering off another team that takes us down.
[quote][p][bold]tomwillo1[/bold] wrote: You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.[/p][/quote]They actually do on a regular basis. I've tried to be supportive of Mills despite many of his decisions but what we don't need again is the embarrasing sight of cityforthepremier and his happy clapper mates on the pitch at the end of the season doing a Brass mark two and cheering off another team that takes us down. duffy
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9:42pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Dave 77 says...

I watched a squad of players low on confidence today. Getting on anyone's back will not do any good. The team need a boost fast, I think an arm round the shoulder will work better than the hair dryer.

Sing up Longhurst Stand you were all very quite today.
I watched a squad of players low on confidence today. Getting on anyone's back will not do any good. The team need a boost fast, I think an arm round the shoulder will work better than the hair dryer. Sing up Longhurst Stand you were all very quite today. Dave 77
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9:46pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cityforthepremier says...

duffy wrote:
cityforthepremier wrote:
duffy wrote:
No cityforthepremier on here tonight then, what a shock.
thats where your wrong ive always got one eye on the rubbish you write one here & believe me there is some rubbish on here tonight!
Start of the season I stated that Mills was too loyal to the conference squad.
I stated the defence needed strengthening as it made far too many individual mistakes.That this was a lower midtable team. That playing players out of position would cost us at this level. Let me think of some of the players I thought should have been released. Parslow, Fyfield,Smith, Challinor.
Yes I really got things wrong.
i just cant understand why you desperately want the club to fail, have you ever had any experience or any coaching knowledge whatsoever? jamal although was partly at fault to their second goal has the ability when he puts his mind to it.
do you think thats mills fault if jamal doesnt use that ability? if you actually knew anything about the technical & tactical aspects of football you would know that we arent winning second balls & that a defender (obeng / meredith) will naturally close players down & win second balls.
unfortunately some people on here including yourself want the club to fail & are first to point the finger at the manager, alot of the players in the squad are capable but fans who boo & not get behind the players arent helping matters.
once the players cross the white line most of it is down to the player not the manager, people like you just jump straight on his back & start blaming players instead of supporting them & giving them the lift they need.
anything else you want to know about the game of football?
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: No cityforthepremier on here tonight then, what a shock.[/p][/quote]thats where your wrong ive always got one eye on the rubbish you write one here & believe me there is some rubbish on here tonight![/p][/quote]Start of the season I stated that Mills was too loyal to the conference squad. I stated the defence needed strengthening as it made far too many individual mistakes.That this was a lower midtable team. That playing players out of position would cost us at this level. Let me think of some of the players I thought should have been released. Parslow, Fyfield,Smith, Challinor. Yes I really got things wrong.[/p][/quote]i just cant understand why you desperately want the club to fail, have you ever had any experience or any coaching knowledge whatsoever? jamal although was partly at fault to their second goal has the ability when he puts his mind to it. do you think thats mills fault if jamal doesnt use that ability? if you actually knew anything about the technical & tactical aspects of football you would know that we arent winning second balls & that a defender (obeng / meredith) will naturally close players down & win second balls. unfortunately some people on here including yourself want the club to fail & are first to point the finger at the manager, alot of the players in the squad are capable but fans who boo & not get behind the players arent helping matters. once the players cross the white line most of it is down to the player not the manager, people like you just jump straight on his back & start blaming players instead of supporting them & giving them the lift they need. anything else you want to know about the game of football? cityforthepremier
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9:51pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cityforthepremier says...

duffy wrote:
tomwillo1 wrote:
You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.
They actually do on a regular basis. I've tried to be supportive of Mills despite many of his decisions but what we don't need again is the embarrasing sight of cityforthepremier and his happy clapper mates on the pitch at the end of the season doing a Brass mark two and cheering off another team that takes us down.
your quick to mouth it off but you havent come up with anything concrete of what you would have done today, your just a keyboard warrior sat there trying to wind people up that knows nothing.
come up with some solutions apart from "sack mills" which is the easy way out.
still waiting.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomwillo1[/bold] wrote: You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.[/p][/quote]They actually do on a regular basis. I've tried to be supportive of Mills despite many of his decisions but what we don't need again is the embarrasing sight of cityforthepremier and his happy clapper mates on the pitch at the end of the season doing a Brass mark two and cheering off another team that takes us down.[/p][/quote]your quick to mouth it off but you havent come up with anything concrete of what you would have done today, your just a keyboard warrior sat there trying to wind people up that knows nothing. come up with some solutions apart from "sack mills" which is the easy way out. still waiting. cityforthepremier
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9:57pm Sat 16 Feb 13

legend7 says...

tomwillo1 wrote:
You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.
we dont see other clubs slagging off their manager because most other clubs have been awake enough to see the trouble they are in and have ALREADY sacked their manager!!!! e.g. bristol rovers, wycombe etc...

YOU NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. GARY MILLS TIME IS UP HE HAS FAILED!!!
[quote][p][bold]tomwillo1[/bold] wrote: You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.[/p][/quote]we dont see other clubs slagging off their manager because most other clubs have been awake enough to see the trouble they are in and have ALREADY sacked their manager!!!! e.g. bristol rovers, wycombe etc... YOU NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. GARY MILLS TIME IS UP HE HAS FAILED!!! legend7
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10:00pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

cityforthepremier wrote:
duffy wrote:
tomwillo1 wrote:
You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.
They actually do on a regular basis. I've tried to be supportive of Mills despite many of his decisions but what we don't need again is the embarrasing sight of cityforthepremier and his happy clapper mates on the pitch at the end of the season doing a Brass mark two and cheering off another team that takes us down.
your quick to mouth it off but you havent come up with anything concrete of what you would have done today, your just a keyboard warrior sat there trying to wind people up that knows nothing.
come up with some solutions apart from "sack mills" which is the easy way out.
still waiting.
I would not have played Smith. I would have kept Parslow at centre half along with playing Obeng at right back. I would have actually played 4-4-2 with Rankine alongside Walker up front. We would not have had Fyfield at left back because I would have already signed a dedicated left back in the transfer window or at the very least in the loan window. I would be giving McReady a run in the team. That enough for you.
[quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomwillo1[/bold] wrote: You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.[/p][/quote]They actually do on a regular basis. I've tried to be supportive of Mills despite many of his decisions but what we don't need again is the embarrasing sight of cityforthepremier and his happy clapper mates on the pitch at the end of the season doing a Brass mark two and cheering off another team that takes us down.[/p][/quote]your quick to mouth it off but you havent come up with anything concrete of what you would have done today, your just a keyboard warrior sat there trying to wind people up that knows nothing. come up with some solutions apart from "sack mills" which is the easy way out. still waiting.[/p][/quote]I would not have played Smith. I would have kept Parslow at centre half along with playing Obeng at right back. I would have actually played 4-4-2 with Rankine alongside Walker up front. We would not have had Fyfield at left back because I would have already signed a dedicated left back in the transfer window or at the very least in the loan window. I would be giving McReady a run in the team. That enough for you. duffy
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10:05pm Sat 16 Feb 13

openallhours says...

cityforthepremier wrote:
duffy wrote:
tomwillo1 wrote:
You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.
They actually do on a regular basis. I've tried to be supportive of Mills despite many of his decisions but what we don't need again is the embarrasing sight of cityforthepremier and his happy clapper mates on the pitch at the end of the season doing a Brass mark two and cheering off another team that takes us down.
your quick to mouth it off but you havent come up with anything concrete of what you would have done today, your just a keyboard warrior sat there trying to wind people up that knows nothing.
come up with some solutions apart from "sack mills" which is the easy way out.
still waiting.
Your grammar seems to be as good as your football knowledge. I'm pretty sure that you start a sentence with a capital letter. Your username would be perhaps more accurate as 'cityforthebluesquar
epremier' young man.
[quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomwillo1[/bold] wrote: You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.[/p][/quote]They actually do on a regular basis. I've tried to be supportive of Mills despite many of his decisions but what we don't need again is the embarrasing sight of cityforthepremier and his happy clapper mates on the pitch at the end of the season doing a Brass mark two and cheering off another team that takes us down.[/p][/quote]your quick to mouth it off but you havent come up with anything concrete of what you would have done today, your just a keyboard warrior sat there trying to wind people up that knows nothing. come up with some solutions apart from "sack mills" which is the easy way out. still waiting.[/p][/quote]Your grammar seems to be as good as your football knowledge. I'm pretty sure that you start a sentence with a capital letter. Your username would be perhaps more accurate as 'cityforthebluesquar epremier' young man. openallhours
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10:10pm Sat 16 Feb 13

lord_love_rocket says...

Time is up Gary, got to go.... SORT IT OUT MCGILL
Time is up Gary, got to go.... SORT IT OUT MCGILL lord_love_rocket
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10:13pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Pitbull Terry says...

As I understand it,Mills is now on a lengthy contract so all thoughts of sacking him can be forgotten because we can't afford it. That being the case, the Chairman won't be able to get him to change the terrible system he plays either. Today was awful....again. The best we can hope for is some of the luck he had last year returning and we get a couple of wins under our belt. One last thought. We don't have one outstanding player at the club this season therefore using subs, when we are chasing the game, will only work if we change the system. One or two subs will not win us the game!
As I understand it,Mills is now on a lengthy contract so all thoughts of sacking him can be forgotten because we can't afford it. That being the case, the Chairman won't be able to get him to change the terrible system he plays either. Today was awful....again. The best we can hope for is some of the luck he had last year returning and we get a couple of wins under our belt. One last thought. We don't have one outstanding player at the club this season therefore using subs, when we are chasing the game, will only work if we change the system. One or two subs will not win us the game! Pitbull Terry
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10:13pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

openallhours wrote:
cityforthepremier wrote:
duffy wrote:
tomwillo1 wrote:
You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.
They actually do on a regular basis. I've tried to be supportive of Mills despite many of his decisions but what we don't need again is the embarrasing sight of cityforthepremier and his happy clapper mates on the pitch at the end of the season doing a Brass mark two and cheering off another team that takes us down.
your quick to mouth it off but you havent come up with anything concrete of what you would have done today, your just a keyboard warrior sat there trying to wind people up that knows nothing.
come up with some solutions apart from "sack mills" which is the easy way out.
still waiting.
Your grammar seems to be as good as your football knowledge. I'm pretty sure that you start a sentence with a capital letter. Your username would be perhaps more accurate as 'cityforthebluesquar

epremier' young man.
What I find quite funny is he accuses me of not suggesting options when all he ever does on here is slag others off. I can't remember him ever putting forward his own ideas.
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomwillo1[/bold] wrote: You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.[/p][/quote]They actually do on a regular basis. I've tried to be supportive of Mills despite many of his decisions but what we don't need again is the embarrasing sight of cityforthepremier and his happy clapper mates on the pitch at the end of the season doing a Brass mark two and cheering off another team that takes us down.[/p][/quote]your quick to mouth it off but you havent come up with anything concrete of what you would have done today, your just a keyboard warrior sat there trying to wind people up that knows nothing. come up with some solutions apart from "sack mills" which is the easy way out. still waiting.[/p][/quote]Your grammar seems to be as good as your football knowledge. I'm pretty sure that you start a sentence with a capital letter. Your username would be perhaps more accurate as 'cityforthebluesquar epremier' young man.[/p][/quote]What I find quite funny is he accuses me of not suggesting options when all he ever does on here is slag others off. I can't remember him ever putting forward his own ideas. duffy
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10:15pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cityforthepremier says...

ha ha i knew you would say 4-4-2 how original, do you honestly think that would have worked? blair & chambers were not feeding off rankine, what makes you think that would have made any difference having walker on the pitch aswell? unfortunately players contracts are up in june do you think there minds are at this football club or on moves away in the summer?fans lack of support certainly wont help & will make decisions easir for e.g. blair, walker, mclaughlin. do you think its the managers fault they arent performing none of them 3 have proved their worth this season yet all you seem to do is jump on the same boat as others sack mills, do you not think hes tried to sign a left back? they dont come easy to find. your not a supporter you dont even live in york, youve no care in what happens to this team or you would get behind it even if you had a vendetta against mills.
ha ha i knew you would say 4-4-2 how original, do you honestly think that would have worked? blair & chambers were not feeding off rankine, what makes you think that would have made any difference having walker on the pitch aswell? unfortunately players contracts are up in june do you think there minds are at this football club or on moves away in the summer?fans lack of support certainly wont help & will make decisions easir for e.g. blair, walker, mclaughlin. do you think its the managers fault they arent performing none of them 3 have proved their worth this season yet all you seem to do is jump on the same boat as others sack mills, do you not think hes tried to sign a left back? they dont come easy to find. your not a supporter you dont even live in york, youve no care in what happens to this team or you would get behind it even if you had a vendetta against mills. cityforthepremier
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10:15pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cityforthepremier says...

ha ha i knew you would say 4-4-2 how original, do you honestly think that would have worked? blair & chambers were not feeding off rankine, what makes you think that would have made any difference having walker on the pitch aswell? unfortunately players contracts are up in june do you think there minds are at this football club or on moves away in the summer?fans lack of support certainly wont help & will make decisions easir for e.g. blair, walker, mclaughlin. do you think its the managers fault they arent performing none of them 3 have proved their worth this season yet all you seem to do is jump on the same boat as others sack mills, do you not think hes tried to sign a left back? they dont come easy to find. your not a supporter you dont even live in york, youve no care in what happens to this team or you would get behind it even if you had a vendetta against mills.
ha ha i knew you would say 4-4-2 how original, do you honestly think that would have worked? blair & chambers were not feeding off rankine, what makes you think that would have made any difference having walker on the pitch aswell? unfortunately players contracts are up in june do you think there minds are at this football club or on moves away in the summer?fans lack of support certainly wont help & will make decisions easir for e.g. blair, walker, mclaughlin. do you think its the managers fault they arent performing none of them 3 have proved their worth this season yet all you seem to do is jump on the same boat as others sack mills, do you not think hes tried to sign a left back? they dont come easy to find. your not a supporter you dont even live in york, youve no care in what happens to this team or you would get behind it even if you had a vendetta against mills. cityforthepremier
  • Score: 0

10:18pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cityforthepremier says...

openallhours wrote:
cityforthepremier wrote:
duffy wrote:
tomwillo1 wrote:
You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.
They actually do on a regular basis. I've tried to be supportive of Mills despite many of his decisions but what we don't need again is the embarrasing sight of cityforthepremier and his happy clapper mates on the pitch at the end of the season doing a Brass mark two and cheering off another team that takes us down.
your quick to mouth it off but you havent come up with anything concrete of what you would have done today, your just a keyboard warrior sat there trying to wind people up that knows nothing.
come up with some solutions apart from "sack mills" which is the easy way out.
still waiting.
Your grammar seems to be as good as your football knowledge. I'm pretty sure that you start a sentence with a capital letter. Your username would be perhaps more accurate as 'cityforthebluesquar

epremier' young man.
i think being personal about ones grammar is slightly below the belt & a bit desperate from you but thanks for your concern we arent all good at english but have more knowledge on other subjects rather tha sat on here thinking they know about football
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomwillo1[/bold] wrote: You don't see any of the other struggling clubs getting on the backs of their team, or slagging off the manager! I thought Barnet fans were superb today, even when they were behind they were still singing and never complained. Our fans need to follow suit. Disgraced at most supporters today. BACK THE MAN THAT HAS BROUGHT US SO MUCH SUCCESS.[/p][/quote]They actually do on a regular basis. I've tried to be supportive of Mills despite many of his decisions but what we don't need again is the embarrasing sight of cityforthepremier and his happy clapper mates on the pitch at the end of the season doing a Brass mark two and cheering off another team that takes us down.[/p][/quote]your quick to mouth it off but you havent come up with anything concrete of what you would have done today, your just a keyboard warrior sat there trying to wind people up that knows nothing. come up with some solutions apart from "sack mills" which is the easy way out. still waiting.[/p][/quote]Your grammar seems to be as good as your football knowledge. I'm pretty sure that you start a sentence with a capital letter. Your username would be perhaps more accurate as 'cityforthebluesquar epremier' young man.[/p][/quote]i think being personal about ones grammar is slightly below the belt & a bit desperate from you but thanks for your concern we arent all good at english but have more knowledge on other subjects rather tha sat on here thinking they know about football cityforthepremier
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10:22pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

cityforthepremier wrote:
ha ha i knew you would say 4-4-2 how original, do you honestly think that would have worked? blair & chambers were not feeding off rankine, what makes you think that would have made any difference having walker on the pitch aswell? unfortunately players contracts are up in june do you think there minds are at this football club or on moves away in the summer?fans lack of support certainly wont help & will make decisions easir for e.g. blair, walker, mclaughlin. do you think its the managers fault they arent performing none of them 3 have proved their worth this season yet all you seem to do is jump on the same boat as others sack mills, do you not think hes tried to sign a left back? they dont come easy to find. your not a supporter you dont even live in york, youve no care in what happens to this team or you would get behind it even if you had a vendetta against mills.
I'm not a supporter because I don't live in York ?
Ok chum.
[quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: ha ha i knew you would say 4-4-2 how original, do you honestly think that would have worked? blair & chambers were not feeding off rankine, what makes you think that would have made any difference having walker on the pitch aswell? unfortunately players contracts are up in june do you think there minds are at this football club or on moves away in the summer?fans lack of support certainly wont help & will make decisions easir for e.g. blair, walker, mclaughlin. do you think its the managers fault they arent performing none of them 3 have proved their worth this season yet all you seem to do is jump on the same boat as others sack mills, do you not think hes tried to sign a left back? they dont come easy to find. your not a supporter you dont even live in york, youve no care in what happens to this team or you would get behind it even if you had a vendetta against mills.[/p][/quote]I'm not a supporter because I don't live in York ? Ok chum. duffy
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10:32pm Sat 16 Feb 13

cityforthepremier says...

duffy wrote:
cityforthepremier wrote:
ha ha i knew you would say 4-4-2 how original, do you honestly think that would have worked? blair & chambers were not feeding off rankine, what makes you think that would have made any difference having walker on the pitch aswell? unfortunately players contracts are up in june do you think there minds are at this football club or on moves away in the summer?fans lack of support certainly wont help & will make decisions easir for e.g. blair, walker, mclaughlin. do you think its the managers fault they arent performing none of them 3 have proved their worth this season yet all you seem to do is jump on the same boat as others sack mills, do you not think hes tried to sign a left back? they dont come easy to find. your not a supporter you dont even live in york, youve no care in what happens to this team or you would get behind it even if you had a vendetta against mills.
I'm not a supporter because I don't live in York ?
Ok chum.
No you dont live in York & your not supporting the team your part of the problem, if you were a true fan you would try & get behind the team even if you dont like the manager, this site is for people to post their opinion on what they have seen at the game today & as you didnt go your comments are worthless.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: ha ha i knew you would say 4-4-2 how original, do you honestly think that would have worked? blair & chambers were not feeding off rankine, what makes you think that would have made any difference having walker on the pitch aswell? unfortunately players contracts are up in june do you think there minds are at this football club or on moves away in the summer?fans lack of support certainly wont help & will make decisions easir for e.g. blair, walker, mclaughlin. do you think its the managers fault they arent performing none of them 3 have proved their worth this season yet all you seem to do is jump on the same boat as others sack mills, do you not think hes tried to sign a left back? they dont come easy to find. your not a supporter you dont even live in york, youve no care in what happens to this team or you would get behind it even if you had a vendetta against mills.[/p][/quote]I'm not a supporter because I don't live in York ? Ok chum.[/p][/quote]No you dont live in York & your not supporting the team your part of the problem, if you were a true fan you would try & get behind the team even if you dont like the manager, this site is for people to post their opinion on what they have seen at the game today & as you didnt go your comments are worthless. cityforthepremier
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10:47pm Sat 16 Feb 13

referee 1 says...

disapointed with display today but despite the frustration really dont think booing allready dejected and unconfident players will help the course you are certain not to motivate and that was clear when barnet scored their first goal a air of defeat you could sense in the crowd and anybody who has played or been involved in the game will tell you it gets to the players,yes i agree with many that smith should not have walked straight into the team and is too argumentative with his own players than a captain should be ,and kerr is now a pale shadow of himself and far to lapse for this league i have more confidence than most in saying we will stay up but changes will have to be made in playing staff for next year
disapointed with display today but despite the frustration really dont think booing allready dejected and unconfident players will help the course you are certain not to motivate and that was clear when barnet scored their first goal a air of defeat you could sense in the crowd and anybody who has played or been involved in the game will tell you it gets to the players,yes i agree with many that smith should not have walked straight into the team and is too argumentative with his own players than a captain should be ,and kerr is now a pale shadow of himself and far to lapse for this league i have more confidence than most in saying we will stay up but changes will have to be made in playing staff for next year referee 1
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10:50pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

cityforthepremier wrote:
duffy wrote:
cityforthepremier wrote:
ha ha i knew you would say 4-4-2 how original, do you honestly think that would have worked? blair & chambers were not feeding off rankine, what makes you think that would have made any difference having walker on the pitch aswell? unfortunately players contracts are up in june do you think there minds are at this football club or on moves away in the summer?fans lack of support certainly wont help & will make decisions easir for e.g. blair, walker, mclaughlin. do you think its the managers fault they arent performing none of them 3 have proved their worth this season yet all you seem to do is jump on the same boat as others sack mills, do you not think hes tried to sign a left back? they dont come easy to find. your not a supporter you dont even live in york, youve no care in what happens to this team or you would get behind it even if you had a vendetta against mills.
I'm not a supporter because I don't live in York ?
Ok chum.
No you dont live in York & your not supporting the team your part of the problem, if you were a true fan you would try & get behind the team even if you dont like the manager, this site is for people to post their opinion on what they have seen at the game today & as you didnt go your comments are worthless.
Except I did go and I'm just back.
[quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: ha ha i knew you would say 4-4-2 how original, do you honestly think that would have worked? blair & chambers were not feeding off rankine, what makes you think that would have made any difference having walker on the pitch aswell? unfortunately players contracts are up in june do you think there minds are at this football club or on moves away in the summer?fans lack of support certainly wont help & will make decisions easir for e.g. blair, walker, mclaughlin. do you think its the managers fault they arent performing none of them 3 have proved their worth this season yet all you seem to do is jump on the same boat as others sack mills, do you not think hes tried to sign a left back? they dont come easy to find. your not a supporter you dont even live in york, youve no care in what happens to this team or you would get behind it even if you had a vendetta against mills.[/p][/quote]I'm not a supporter because I don't live in York ? Ok chum.[/p][/quote]No you dont live in York & your not supporting the team your part of the problem, if you were a true fan you would try & get behind the team even if you dont like the manager, this site is for people to post their opinion on what they have seen at the game today & as you didnt go your comments are worthless.[/p][/quote]Except I did go and I'm just back. duffy
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11:01pm Sat 16 Feb 13

duffy says...

cityforthepremier wrote:
duffy wrote:
cityforthepremier wrote:
duffy wrote:
No cityforthepremier on here tonight then, what a shock.
thats where your wrong ive always got one eye on the rubbish you write one here & believe me there is some rubbish on here tonight!
Start of the season I stated that Mills was too loyal to the conference squad.
I stated the defence needed strengthening as it made far too many individual mistakes.That this was a lower midtable team. That playing players out of position would cost us at this level. Let me think of some of the players I thought should have been released. Parslow, Fyfield,Smith, Challinor.
Yes I really got things wrong.
i just cant understand why you desperately want the club to fail, have you ever had any experience or any coaching knowledge whatsoever? jamal although was partly at fault to their second goal has the ability when he puts his mind to it.
do you think thats mills fault if jamal doesnt use that ability? if you actually knew anything about the technical & tactical aspects of football you would know that we arent winning second balls & that a defender (obeng / meredith) will naturally close players down & win second balls.
unfortunately some people on here including yourself want the club to fail & are first to point the finger at the manager, alot of the players in the squad are capable but fans who boo & not get behind the players arent helping matters.
once the players cross the white line most of it is down to the player not the manager, people like you just jump straight on his back & start blaming players instead of supporting them & giving them the lift they need.
anything else you want to know about the game of football?
Sorry but what exactly are you trying to say, that's it's better to play defenders in midfield than actual midfielders because the ones Mills signed are not up to the job? That Jamal is not using all of his ability played out of position at left back ? You need to get on the phone to Mills now with these words of wisdom.
[quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: No cityforthepremier on here tonight then, what a shock.[/p][/quote]thats where your wrong ive always got one eye on the rubbish you write one here & believe me there is some rubbish on here tonight![/p][/quote]Start of the season I stated that Mills was too loyal to the conference squad. I stated the defence needed strengthening as it made far too many individual mistakes.That this was a lower midtable team. That playing players out of position would cost us at this level. Let me think of some of the players I thought should have been released. Parslow, Fyfield,Smith, Challinor. Yes I really got things wrong.[/p][/quote]i just cant understand why you desperately want the club to fail, have you ever had any experience or any coaching knowledge whatsoever? jamal although was partly at fault to their second goal has the ability when he puts his mind to it. do you think thats mills fault if jamal doesnt use that ability? if you actually knew anything about the technical & tactical aspects of football you would know that we arent winning second balls & that a defender (obeng / meredith) will naturally close players down & win second balls. unfortunately some people on here including yourself want the club to fail & are first to point the finger at the manager, alot of the players in the squad are capable but fans who boo & not get behind the players arent helping matters. once the players cross the white line most of it is down to the player not the manager, people like you just jump straight on his back & start blaming players instead of supporting them & giving them the lift they need. anything else you want to know about the game of football?[/p][/quote]Sorry but what exactly are you trying to say, that's it's better to play defenders in midfield than actual midfielders because the ones Mills signed are not up to the job? That Jamal is not using all of his ability played out of position at left back ? You need to get on the phone to Mills now with these words of wisdom. duffy
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11:22pm Sat 16 Feb 13

skilly says...

I left the ground feeling really dis-heartened but then a few hours later I now feel optimistic. The team played well on Tuesday and there is enough to suggest we can repeat that form. We don't seem to get the rub of the green at the moment and we just need to dig in and get a couple of wins. No point wallowing in self pity. I just wish we could bury the chances we make! Barnet didn't create a lot yet won the game. Any win at the moment would be massive. And for those who always have a go at Smith, he was no worse than anyone else on the pitch today. Chambers and Blair were poor but its about rallying round, not stating the tired old 'Mills out' The man will keeps us in this league.
I left the ground feeling really dis-heartened but then a few hours later I now feel optimistic. The team played well on Tuesday and there is enough to suggest we can repeat that form. We don't seem to get the rub of the green at the moment and we just need to dig in and get a couple of wins. No point wallowing in self pity. I just wish we could bury the chances we make! Barnet didn't create a lot yet won the game. Any win at the moment would be massive. And for those who always have a go at Smith, he was no worse than anyone else on the pitch today. Chambers and Blair were poor but its about rallying round, not stating the tired old 'Mills out' The man will keeps us in this league. skilly
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11:31pm Sat 16 Feb 13

Peppa07 says...

I went today and on Tuesday. The substitution of Rankine was completely bizarre, I agree. I wouldn't have changed the central pairing of Parslow and O'Connel after Tuesday. The team failed to push up after the fluke that put us 1-0 up. We sat back - always a fatal mistake unless you're a great defending team (obviously we're rubbish). But I don't see Mills getting the sack - can't afford it anyway. Can't just blame loan signings....the midfield lost it today as they could have done in the first half of second half on Tuesday. Kerr is well below par...and again we've lost to a team that isn't even much good... worrying times. BUT the Shippo were crap today. It was like a morgue. We have to support the team.
I went today and on Tuesday. The substitution of Rankine was completely bizarre, I agree. I wouldn't have changed the central pairing of Parslow and O'Connel after Tuesday. The team failed to push up after the fluke that put us 1-0 up. We sat back - always a fatal mistake unless you're a great defending team (obviously we're rubbish). But I don't see Mills getting the sack - can't afford it anyway. Can't just blame loan signings....the midfield lost it today as they could have done in the first half of second half on Tuesday. Kerr is well below par...and again we've lost to a team that isn't even much good... worrying times. BUT the Shippo were crap today. It was like a morgue. We have to support the team. Peppa07
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11:34pm Sat 16 Feb 13

sixtyfourfive says...

bill bailey wrote:
I would ask the Pope before he finishes to come and read "THE LAST RIGHTS,". unless the manager and his lefthand men is shown the door, and replaced by, someone like Nick Barmby,
Gerry Francis,Des Bulpin.
Who on earth is Des Bulpin? Gerry Francis has not managed since 2001 when he nearly took Bristol Rovers into the Conference! Let's keep it sensible at least - have you actually made it to a match yet? Finally I'm normally positive but today was a shambles - hope that was the lowest ebb. I still believe from some our good performances earlier in the season the squad and manager have it in them to turn it round - we can and have played well this season . A little worried but keep the faith .
[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: I would ask the Pope before he finishes to come and read "THE LAST RIGHTS,". unless the manager and his lefthand men is shown the door, and replaced by, someone like Nick Barmby, Gerry Francis,Des Bulpin.[/p][/quote]Who on earth is Des Bulpin? Gerry Francis has not managed since 2001 when he nearly took Bristol Rovers into the Conference! Let's keep it sensible at least - have you actually made it to a match yet? Finally I'm normally positive but today was a shambles - hope that was the lowest ebb. I still believe from some our good performances earlier in the season the squad and manager have it in them to turn it round - we can and have played well this season . A little worried but keep the faith . sixtyfourfive
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11:37pm Sat 16 Feb 13

skilly says...

Hey lets get Paul Buckle, I hear he's doing a good job!
Hey lets get Paul Buckle, I hear he's doing a good job! skilly
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11:54pm Sat 16 Feb 13

twang says...

Just got back from a 550 mile round trip to watch what could only described as pure and utter rubbish.
Should be 442 Walker & Rankin YES
Should Fyfield be dropped YES
Should Smith be dropped YES
Should we bring in another Keeper YES
Should Kerr look elsewhere YES
Should Mills Gee Lyttle go YES YES YES
Sorry Gary theres plenty of options open to you but you cant see them so Bye Bye Thanks for last season but its a results industry and your results are rubbish with no ability to chamlnge them
Jason its now or never the never being destruction of my club i have been supporting for over 30 YEARS i do over 12000 miles a year watching my club but i dont think i can take another bout of non league
The ball is in your court Jason. THANKS for the memories Gary
Jason
Just got back from a 550 mile round trip to watch what could only described as pure and utter rubbish. Should be 442 Walker & Rankin YES Should Fyfield be dropped YES Should Smith be dropped YES Should we bring in another Keeper YES Should Kerr look elsewhere YES Should Mills Gee Lyttle go YES YES YES Sorry Gary theres plenty of options open to you but you cant see them so Bye Bye Thanks for last season but its a results industry and your results are rubbish with no ability to chamlnge them Jason its now or never the never being destruction of my club i have been supporting for over 30 YEARS i do over 12000 miles a year watching my club but i dont think i can take another bout of non league The ball is in your court Jason. THANKS for the memories Gary Jason twang
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12:10am Sun 17 Feb 13

GreenshawGrinder says...

Oh dear, after that performance, the Conference beckons.
Oh dear, after that performance, the Conference beckons. GreenshawGrinder
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12:27am Sun 17 Feb 13

thirsky says...

A team that ends up 4th in the Conference should not be in the football league. It is only due to the moneymaking system of play offs that we are in the higher echelon of soccer. You cant blame the shortcomings of loan players when you cannot judge what their shortcomings are as they have never played. The supporters of this club get too easily carried away when we manage to scrape a point against good teams. and then expect of right to win against lesser opponents. I have never seen so many comments where consensis is there is no hope so we are stuck with what we now have. When a manager has automatic tenancy of his position and knows of no other way how to play then there is only one conclusion as to how the season will end.
A team that ends up 4th in the Conference should not be in the football league. It is only due to the moneymaking system of play offs that we are in the higher echelon of soccer. You cant blame the shortcomings of loan players when you cannot judge what their shortcomings are as they have never played. The supporters of this club get too easily carried away when we manage to scrape a point against good teams. and then expect of right to win against lesser opponents. I have never seen so many comments where consensis is there is no hope so we are stuck with what we now have. When a manager has automatic tenancy of his position and knows of no other way how to play then there is only one conclusion as to how the season will end. thirsky
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1:23am Sun 17 Feb 13

yorkshirecalling says...

Not every dick has its day
Not every dick has its day yorkshirecalling
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1:35am Sun 17 Feb 13

chrisatyork says...

Heard Alex mcleash is available
Heard Alex mcleash is available chrisatyork
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3:15am Sun 17 Feb 13

YoRkIe59 says...

i don,t agree weve no right to be in league 2 because we finished 4th in the league last year,plenty of teams that went up via the play offs have done o,k and managed at least a respectable mid table on their return.Regarding Mills etc no one seriously wants us to have to sack a manager but its bizarre that he just refuses to change anything.As for the perceived lack of support from the city faithfull, i think most people will always be behind the team even when things are not going so well for us,even if the quality might not be there in the team,IF at least the effort is there from the players,it,s a bit unrealistic to expect a vocal and commited support when players seem to not give a monkeys.
i don,t agree weve no right to be in league 2 because we finished 4th in the league last year,plenty of teams that went up via the play offs have done o,k and managed at least a respectable mid table on their return.Regarding Mills etc no one seriously wants us to have to sack a manager but its bizarre that he just refuses to change anything.As for the perceived lack of support from the city faithfull, i think most people will always be behind the team even when things are not going so well for us,even if the quality might not be there in the team,IF at least the effort is there from the players,it,s a bit unrealistic to expect a vocal and commited support when players seem to not give a monkeys. YoRkIe59
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7:34am Sun 17 Feb 13

YO1 says...

The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks.

It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management.

At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks.

THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM

Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online.

Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.
The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks. It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management. At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks. THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online. Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club. YO1
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7:42am Sun 17 Feb 13

englishmanint says...

my my my..... how things change around,last year Mills was god.... now hes the devil....time to go watch the knights now.....a proper game without overpaid mummys boys diving all over the field!!! The jaws of the trap door are opening......bsp...? ouch!!!!!
my my my..... how things change around,last year Mills was god.... now hes the devil....time to go watch the knights now.....a proper game without overpaid mummys boys diving all over the field!!! The jaws of the trap door are opening......bsp...? ouch!!!!! englishmanint
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7:56am Sun 17 Feb 13

YO1 says...

englishmanint wrote:
my my my..... how things change around,last year Mills was god.... now hes the devil....time to go watch the knights now.....a proper game without overpaid mummys boys diving all over the field!!! The jaws of the trap door are opening......bsp...? ouch!!!!!
If the Knights are so compelling why are you reading a City fans forum at 745am on a Sunday morning?

Nothing better to do?
[quote][p][bold]englishmanint[/bold] wrote: my my my..... how things change around,last year Mills was god.... now hes the devil....time to go watch the knights now.....a proper game without overpaid mummys boys diving all over the field!!! The jaws of the trap door are opening......bsp...? ouch!!!!![/p][/quote]If the Knights are so compelling why are you reading a City fans forum at 745am on a Sunday morning? Nothing better to do? YO1
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8:58am Sun 17 Feb 13

lord_love_rocket says...

Fleetwood felt they needed a change having won the league at a canter and lying 4th in the division, enough is enough, he has to go now, we can't afford to go down, Keith Curle is the man for me, change must happen now
Fleetwood felt they needed a change having won the league at a canter and lying 4th in the division, enough is enough, he has to go now, we can't afford to go down, Keith Curle is the man for me, change must happen now lord_love_rocket
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8:59am Sun 17 Feb 13

brahma says...

I can see the merits of both the "sack Mill's before it's too late" argument and the "don't sack Mills" camp. The turnaround made by both Barnet and Bristol Rovers supports the first argument, but they acted earlier in the season, with more games to go. I fear that particular ship may have sailed. On the other hand, I well remember Tom Johnstone's team struggling for two seasons after being promoted from Div 4 to Div 3 in 1970/71. As I recall, we avoided relegation in 71/72 and 72/73 on goal average, before going on the get promotion in 73/74. So, stick or twist, with 13 games left? Not sure, but I think we may just have to hold our breath and hope.
I can see the merits of both the "sack Mill's before it's too late" argument and the "don't sack Mills" camp. The turnaround made by both Barnet and Bristol Rovers supports the first argument, but they acted earlier in the season, with more games to go. I fear that particular ship may have sailed. On the other hand, I well remember Tom Johnstone's team struggling for two seasons after being promoted from Div 4 to Div 3 in 1970/71. As I recall, we avoided relegation in 71/72 and 72/73 on goal average, before going on the get promotion in 73/74. So, stick or twist, with 13 games left? Not sure, but I think we may just have to hold our breath and hope. brahma
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9:00am Sun 17 Feb 13

RooBeck says...

That performance was as bad as it gets and if there is anything positive to take from it - then we can only get better!! The poor defending(for both their goals, although their second was assisted by a handball that was missed by the officials - the assistant should have spotted it!) was dire. We were slow and disjointed, with only McConnell coming out of it anything like and it was a mistake to alter the central pairing in the Back Four from the Gillingham game. Rankine(who it must be said does not look fully fit), was our best forward and need we say anymore on that? A powderpuff attacking formation and effort and aside from McGrath, the midfield was similarly lightweight and unable to grip the game - Edgar Davids looked like he was taking a coaching class for his side throughout the match - so little did we trouble them! I'm still a fan of Gary Mills - I admire his positive, never say die approach BUT, he is not getting the best out of his players and that is either their commitment is dwindling, or, his formations and line-ups are ineffective - or both. Trips to Oxford United and Rotherham United beckon, followed-up against a Bradford City side on the back of a big Wembley final and as I see it, these three games will define whether or not we will fight it out with three other clubs (Accrington, Aldershot, Plymouth), to remain in League 2. Gary - you and your squad MUST get it right, starting with training tomorrow and take on the remaining thirteen games with confidence but in the sure knowledge that ideas/formations/lin
e-ups need to change because if we can't get out of the rut that was yesterday's shambles, then,it has to be said, we will surely return straight back into the Conference. COYR.
That performance was as bad as it gets and if there is anything positive to take from it - then we can only get better!! The poor defending(for both their goals, although their second was assisted by a handball that was missed by the officials - the assistant should have spotted it!) was dire. We were slow and disjointed, with only McConnell coming out of it anything like and it was a mistake to alter the central pairing in the Back Four from the Gillingham game. Rankine(who it must be said does not look fully fit), was our best forward and need we say anymore on that? A powderpuff attacking formation and effort and aside from McGrath, the midfield was similarly lightweight and unable to grip the game - Edgar Davids looked like he was taking a coaching class for his side throughout the match - so little did we trouble them! I'm still a fan of Gary Mills - I admire his positive, never say die approach BUT, he is not getting the best out of his players and that is either their commitment is dwindling, or, his formations and line-ups are ineffective - or both. Trips to Oxford United and Rotherham United beckon, followed-up against a Bradford City side on the back of a big Wembley final and as I see it, these three games will define whether or not we will fight it out with three other clubs (Accrington, Aldershot, Plymouth), to remain in League 2. Gary - you and your squad MUST get it right, starting with training tomorrow and take on the remaining thirteen games with confidence but in the sure knowledge that ideas/formations/lin e-ups need to change because if we can't get out of the rut that was yesterday's shambles, then,it has to be said, we will surely return straight back into the Conference. COYR. RooBeck
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9:02am Sun 17 Feb 13

openallhours says...

YO1 wrote:
The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks.

It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management.

At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks.

THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM

Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online.

Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.
I find your post quite offensive. To say that the fans are contributing to the clubs decline is an insult to every fan who makes the effort to attend (and pay to watch) the games.

Mills and the players deserve all of the flack that is coming their way and they need to find the strength required to turn it around. They were more than happy to bathe in the glory last season so what do they expect if they can't win home games.

If there's anything that we've learned about Mills, it's that he's a rude, stubborn and pig headed little man who always has to blame others for his shortcomings.

You can 'Gary clap' us all the way back to the conference if you wish, but I think the majority of fans won't be joining you.
[quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks. It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management. At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks. THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online. Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.[/p][/quote]I find your post quite offensive. To say that the fans are contributing to the clubs decline is an insult to every fan who makes the effort to attend (and pay to watch) the games. Mills and the players deserve all of the flack that is coming their way and they need to find the strength required to turn it around. They were more than happy to bathe in the glory last season so what do they expect if they can't win home games. If there's anything that we've learned about Mills, it's that he's a rude, stubborn and pig headed little man who always has to blame others for his shortcomings. You can 'Gary clap' us all the way back to the conference if you wish, but I think the majority of fans won't be joining you. openallhours
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9:19am Sun 17 Feb 13

brahma says...

On another angle, in the last ten seasons teams have been relegated on 44,47,44,37,42,36,49
,38,45 and 48 points. That's a mean average of 43 and a median of 44, which suggests we probably need two or three more wins to be safe, but possibly four. Any thoughts on where they are going to come from?
On another angle, in the last ten seasons teams have been relegated on 44,47,44,37,42,36,49 ,38,45 and 48 points. That's a mean average of 43 and a median of 44, which suggests we probably need two or three more wins to be safe, but possibly four. Any thoughts on where they are going to come from? brahma
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9:39am Sun 17 Feb 13

duffy says...

YO1 wrote:
The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks.

It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management.

At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks.

THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM

Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online.

Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.
To state the fans are contributing to the clubs downfall is nonsense. Let me take you back to the season we were relegated from the conference, the team got fantastic support but still went down. If a squad of players is not good enough for the division they play in they will lose games and that's what's happening. I'll say it again, Mills was too loyal and what we have is a conference team playing league football. I make long journeys to watch the team and have never booed a player in my life but I can see when things are going badly wrong.
[quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks. It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management. At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks. THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online. Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.[/p][/quote]To state the fans are contributing to the clubs downfall is nonsense. Let me take you back to the season we were relegated from the conference, the team got fantastic support but still went down. If a squad of players is not good enough for the division they play in they will lose games and that's what's happening. I'll say it again, Mills was too loyal and what we have is a conference team playing league football. I make long journeys to watch the team and have never booed a player in my life but I can see when things are going badly wrong. duffy
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9:39am Sun 17 Feb 13

headhunter100 says...

I know I harp on about a young lad who was let down by City, from being in the set up form age 11 and is an astute player, full of confidence, full of brains, knows the game inside out, nobody would listen to me, but he really is a striker in the making and York City knocked him right down to the ground by not putting him in the Youth Team, hes on a winning streak now and by god would he have made an excellent striker, city lost him his chances by not seeing a good player when they see one. This is what **** me off about the whole set up and they think they are right every single god damned time, these games by the first team iis now proving they are not , have not got a clue , so fans keep harping, but it will get you no where because they know best.
I know I harp on about a young lad who was let down by City, from being in the set up form age 11 and is an astute player, full of confidence, full of brains, knows the game inside out, nobody would listen to me, but he really is a striker in the making and York City knocked him right down to the ground by not putting him in the Youth Team, hes on a winning streak now and by god would he have made an excellent striker, city lost him his chances by not seeing a good player when they see one. This is what **** me off about the whole set up and they think they are right every single god damned time, these games by the first team iis now proving they are not , have not got a clue , so fans keep harping, but it will get you no where because they know best. headhunter100
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9:47am Sun 17 Feb 13

sixtyfourfive says...

headhunter100 wrote:
I know I harp on about a young lad who was let down by City, from being in the set up form age 11 and is an astute player, full of confidence, full of brains, knows the game inside out, nobody would listen to me, but he really is a striker in the making and York City knocked him right down to the ground by not putting him in the Youth Team, hes on a winning streak now and by god would he have made an excellent striker, city lost him his chances by not seeing a good player when they see one. This is what **** me off about the whole set up and they think they are right every single god damned time, these games by the first team iis now proving they are not , have not got a clue , so fans keep harping, but it will get you no where because they know best.
What has this got to do with our current form in League 2? You obviously have your views on this youngster but presumably the Youth Set Up at City thought he wasn't up to it - it happens all the time at Clubs and is obviously down to opinions as are many other things in life as this forum well illustrates!
[quote][p][bold]headhunter100[/bold] wrote: I know I harp on about a young lad who was let down by City, from being in the set up form age 11 and is an astute player, full of confidence, full of brains, knows the game inside out, nobody would listen to me, but he really is a striker in the making and York City knocked him right down to the ground by not putting him in the Youth Team, hes on a winning streak now and by god would he have made an excellent striker, city lost him his chances by not seeing a good player when they see one. This is what **** me off about the whole set up and they think they are right every single god damned time, these games by the first team iis now proving they are not , have not got a clue , so fans keep harping, but it will get you no where because they know best.[/p][/quote]What has this got to do with our current form in League 2? You obviously have your views on this youngster but presumably the Youth Set Up at City thought he wasn't up to it - it happens all the time at Clubs and is obviously down to opinions as are many other things in life as this forum well illustrates! sixtyfourfive
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9:59am Sun 17 Feb 13

sixtyfourfive says...

openallhours wrote:
YO1 wrote:
The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks.

It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management.

At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks.

THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM

Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online.

Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.
I find your post quite offensive. To say that the fans are contributing to the clubs decline is an insult to every fan who makes the effort to attend (and pay to watch) the games.

Mills and the players deserve all of the flack that is coming their way and they need to find the strength required to turn it around. They were more than happy to bathe in the glory last season so what do they expect if they can't win home games.

If there's anything that we've learned about Mills, it's that he's a rude, stubborn and pig headed little man who always has to blame others for his shortcomings.

You can 'Gary clap' us all the way back to the conference if you wish, but I think the majority of fans won't be joining you.
I am as upset and worried as most about our current form although still believe we will pull through.Fully understand all the frustration on this forum but agree with "YO1" that some of it is a little personal - I doubt "openallhours" would have the guts to say this face to face/ one to one to Gary Mills?!
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks. It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management. At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks. THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online. Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.[/p][/quote]I find your post quite offensive. To say that the fans are contributing to the clubs decline is an insult to every fan who makes the effort to attend (and pay to watch) the games. Mills and the players deserve all of the flack that is coming their way and they need to find the strength required to turn it around. They were more than happy to bathe in the glory last season so what do they expect if they can't win home games. If there's anything that we've learned about Mills, it's that he's a rude, stubborn and pig headed little man who always has to blame others for his shortcomings. You can 'Gary clap' us all the way back to the conference if you wish, but I think the majority of fans won't be joining you.[/p][/quote]I am as upset and worried as most about our current form although still believe we will pull through.Fully understand all the frustration on this forum but agree with "YO1" that some of it is a little personal - I doubt "openallhours" would have the guts to say this face to face/ one to one to Gary Mills?! sixtyfourfive
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10:06am Sun 17 Feb 13

RooBeck says...

brahma wrote:
On another angle, in the last ten seasons teams have been relegated on 44,47,44,37,42,36,49

,38,45 and 48 points. That's a mean average of 43 and a median of 44, which suggests we probably need two or three more wins to be safe, but possibly four. Any thoughts on where they are going to come from?
How about Bradford City, Port Vale at home and Northampton, Rotherham and Oxford away?!!! None of these have beaten us this term and we do play better against the supposedly better teams. That said, if we can't shake-off yesterday's rubbish and turn a corner, then the writing is definately on the wall. So, only one way to go now!!
[quote][p][bold]brahma[/bold] wrote: On another angle, in the last ten seasons teams have been relegated on 44,47,44,37,42,36,49 ,38,45 and 48 points. That's a mean average of 43 and a median of 44, which suggests we probably need two or three more wins to be safe, but possibly four. Any thoughts on where they are going to come from?[/p][/quote]How about Bradford City, Port Vale at home and Northampton, Rotherham and Oxford away?!!! None of these have beaten us this term and we do play better against the supposedly better teams. That said, if we can't shake-off yesterday's rubbish and turn a corner, then the writing is definately on the wall. So, only one way to go now!! RooBeck
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10:14am Sun 17 Feb 13

Head of Bomber Command says...

brahma wrote:
On another angle, in the last ten seasons teams have been relegated on 44,47,44,37,42,36,49

,38,45 and 48 points. That's a mean average of 43 and a median of 44, which suggests we probably need two or three more wins to be safe, but possibly four. Any thoughts on where they are going to come from?
I think we need more than 44pts. 49 is my prediction for this season. I am gutted as I really thought Gary would keep us up, it looks like he is not going to achieve it as we are treading water at this moment in time.

Ingham. Obeng. Bullock. O'Connell. Parslow. Rodman. Kerr. McGrath. Mclaughlin. Walker. Rankine.
4-4-2.
[quote][p][bold]brahma[/bold] wrote: On another angle, in the last ten seasons teams have been relegated on 44,47,44,37,42,36,49 ,38,45 and 48 points. That's a mean average of 43 and a median of 44, which suggests we probably need two or three more wins to be safe, but possibly four. Any thoughts on where they are going to come from?[/p][/quote]I think we need more than 44pts. 49 is my prediction for this season. I am gutted as I really thought Gary would keep us up, it looks like he is not going to achieve it as we are treading water at this moment in time. Ingham. Obeng. Bullock. O'Connell. Parslow. Rodman. Kerr. McGrath. Mclaughlin. Walker. Rankine. 4-4-2. Head of Bomber Command
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10:14am Sun 17 Feb 13

Mad for Minstermen says...

Trawling through this forum this morning, although its only a snapshot of opinion, the overwhelming message is Mills must go to stave off a relegation threat. Happy clappers in a minority. Advice to happy clappers, go and support Lincoln City as they are already in the Conference. With Mills at the helm that's where we are heading.
Trawling through this forum this morning, although its only a snapshot of opinion, the overwhelming message is Mills must go to stave off a relegation threat. Happy clappers in a minority. Advice to happy clappers, go and support Lincoln City as they are already in the Conference. With Mills at the helm that's where we are heading. Mad for Minstermen
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10:25am Sun 17 Feb 13

lord_love_rocket says...

Mad for Minstermen wrote:
Trawling through this forum this morning, although its only a snapshot of opinion, the overwhelming message is Mills must go to stave off a relegation threat. Happy clappers in a minority. Advice to happy clappers, go and support Lincoln City as they are already in the Conference. With Mills at the helm that's where we are heading.
Agreed. MILLS OUT
[quote][p][bold]Mad for Minstermen[/bold] wrote: Trawling through this forum this morning, although its only a snapshot of opinion, the overwhelming message is Mills must go to stave off a relegation threat. Happy clappers in a minority. Advice to happy clappers, go and support Lincoln City as they are already in the Conference. With Mills at the helm that's where we are heading.[/p][/quote]Agreed. MILLS OUT lord_love_rocket
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10:26am Sun 17 Feb 13

Budgie says...

As Pte Frazer would sat in Dads Army, "We are doomed,dooomed". Said a few weeks ago to sack Mills.Back to Alfreton ,Tamworth,etc.soon.
As Pte Frazer would sat in Dads Army, "We are doomed,dooomed". Said a few weeks ago to sack Mills.Back to Alfreton ,Tamworth,etc.soon. Budgie
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10:32am Sun 17 Feb 13

redwhiteblue says...

We all knock Gary Mills but the people we really should question are the players - today the following did not perform - Fyfield, Smith, Kerr, Chambers, Blair - half the outfield players had stinkers - most of them will move on next year, what commitment are they showing to York City, the manager, the Chairman and especially the fans who help to pay their wages? They need a kick up the arse - I still believe we will be OK but we need them to pull us out of the situation they have got us into.
We all knock Gary Mills but the people we really should question are the players - today the following did not perform - Fyfield, Smith, Kerr, Chambers, Blair - half the outfield players had stinkers - most of them will move on next year, what commitment are they showing to York City, the manager, the Chairman and especially the fans who help to pay their wages? They need a kick up the arse - I still believe we will be OK but we need them to pull us out of the situation they have got us into. redwhiteblue
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10:57am Sun 17 Feb 13

lord_love_rocket says...

MILLS OUT

won't happen though
MILLS OUT won't happen though lord_love_rocket
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11:12am Sun 17 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

Would you all stop with the 'happy clappers' thing? People have different views on things, supporting Mills and the team is not a crime - if people think Mills can do the job, then fine - I'm not as sure as I was two weeks ago, but there's no need for the aggro against people who think he should stay. Equally, if you think he should go, that's fine too. You're entitled to your opinions. But none of you are fortune tellers, so coming on here with the old 'I told you so' gloating attitude is kind of silly.

We now have the second-to- worst form in the league, so for me, changes have to be made very soon. Either Mills changing his tactics and formation, or the club changing its manager. That said, Oxford are in the 4th worst form in the league and our away form is still better than our home form, so if Mills is going to set things right, Saturday is the day to do it. I will still be supporting City and believing they can win, because that's our job as fans. If that makes me a happy clapper, so be it.
Would you all stop with the 'happy clappers' thing? People have different views on things, supporting Mills and the team is not a crime - if people think Mills can do the job, then fine - I'm not as sure as I was two weeks ago, but there's no need for the aggro against people who think he should stay. Equally, if you think he should go, that's fine too. You're entitled to your opinions. But none of you are fortune tellers, so coming on here with the old 'I told you so' gloating attitude is kind of silly. We now have the second-to- worst form in the league, so for me, changes have to be made very soon. Either Mills changing his tactics and formation, or the club changing its manager. That said, Oxford are in the 4th worst form in the league and our away form is still better than our home form, so if Mills is going to set things right, Saturday is the day to do it. I will still be supporting City and believing they can win, because that's our job as fans. If that makes me a happy clapper, so be it. YorkCityLuke
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11:42am Sun 17 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
Would you all stop with the 'happy clappers' thing? People have different views on things, supporting Mills and the team is not a crime - if people think Mills can do the job, then fine - I'm not as sure as I was two weeks ago, but there's no need for the aggro against people who think he should stay. Equally, if you think he should go, that's fine too. You're entitled to your opinions. But none of you are fortune tellers, so coming on here with the old 'I told you so' gloating attitude is kind of silly. We now have the second-to- worst form in the league, so for me, changes have to be made very soon. Either Mills changing his tactics and formation, or the club changing its manager. That said, Oxford are in the 4th worst form in the league and our away form is still better than our home form, so if Mills is going to set things right, Saturday is the day to do it. I will still be supporting City and believing they can win, because that's our job as fans. If that makes me a happy clapper, so be it.
O'DEAR ME..LUKE..
Are they all being nasty too you and calling you a happy clapper...lol
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: Would you all stop with the 'happy clappers' thing? People have different views on things, supporting Mills and the team is not a crime - if people think Mills can do the job, then fine - I'm not as sure as I was two weeks ago, but there's no need for the aggro against people who think he should stay. Equally, if you think he should go, that's fine too. You're entitled to your opinions. But none of you are fortune tellers, so coming on here with the old 'I told you so' gloating attitude is kind of silly. We now have the second-to- worst form in the league, so for me, changes have to be made very soon. Either Mills changing his tactics and formation, or the club changing its manager. That said, Oxford are in the 4th worst form in the league and our away form is still better than our home form, so if Mills is going to set things right, Saturday is the day to do it. I will still be supporting City and believing they can win, because that's our job as fans. If that makes me a happy clapper, so be it.[/p][/quote]O'DEAR ME..LUKE.. Are they all being nasty too you and calling you a happy clapper...lol redbluelion
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11:45am Sun 17 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

Headlines in the press on monday..
YORK SACK MILLS.
Headlines in the press on monday.. YORK SACK MILLS. redbluelion
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11:48am Sun 17 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

redbluelion wrote:
YorkCityLuke wrote:
Would you all stop with the 'happy clappers' thing? People have different views on things, supporting Mills and the team is not a crime - if people think Mills can do the job, then fine - I'm not as sure as I was two weeks ago, but there's no need for the aggro against people who think he should stay. Equally, if you think he should go, that's fine too. You're entitled to your opinions. But none of you are fortune tellers, so coming on here with the old 'I told you so' gloating attitude is kind of silly. We now have the second-to- worst form in the league, so for me, changes have to be made very soon. Either Mills changing his tactics and formation, or the club changing its manager. That said, Oxford are in the 4th worst form in the league and our away form is still better than our home form, so if Mills is going to set things right, Saturday is the day to do it. I will still be supporting City and believing they can win, because that's our job as fans. If that makes me a happy clapper, so be it.
O'DEAR ME..LUKE..
Are they all being nasty too you and calling you a happy clapper...lol
Name calling is hardly nasty - just juvenile and stupid. I'd rather our fans gave a better account of themselves than petty name calling and gloating over our own misfortunes. It's conference class behavior.
[quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: Would you all stop with the 'happy clappers' thing? People have different views on things, supporting Mills and the team is not a crime - if people think Mills can do the job, then fine - I'm not as sure as I was two weeks ago, but there's no need for the aggro against people who think he should stay. Equally, if you think he should go, that's fine too. You're entitled to your opinions. But none of you are fortune tellers, so coming on here with the old 'I told you so' gloating attitude is kind of silly. We now have the second-to- worst form in the league, so for me, changes have to be made very soon. Either Mills changing his tactics and formation, or the club changing its manager. That said, Oxford are in the 4th worst form in the league and our away form is still better than our home form, so if Mills is going to set things right, Saturday is the day to do it. I will still be supporting City and believing they can win, because that's our job as fans. If that makes me a happy clapper, so be it.[/p][/quote]O'DEAR ME..LUKE.. Are they all being nasty too you and calling you a happy clapper...lol[/p][/quote]Name calling is hardly nasty - just juvenile and stupid. I'd rather our fans gave a better account of themselves than petty name calling and gloating over our own misfortunes. It's conference class behavior. YorkCityLuke
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11:56am Sun 17 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

THATS WHY I DON'T COME ON MUCH..
other fans attack you just for making a statement on fact...but hey what ever..
THATS WHY I DON'T COME ON MUCH.. other fans attack you just for making a statement on fact...but hey what ever.. redbluelion
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11:59am Sun 17 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

redbluelion wrote:
THATS WHY I DON'T COME ON MUCH..
other fans attack you just for making a statement on fact...but hey what ever..
Yeah fair enough I've done some name calling too. But not what the club needs at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: THATS WHY I DON'T COME ON MUCH.. other fans attack you just for making a statement on fact...but hey what ever..[/p][/quote]Yeah fair enough I've done some name calling too. But not what the club needs at the moment. YorkCityLuke
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12:18pm Sun 17 Feb 13

legend7 says...

redbluelion wrote:
Headlines in the press on monday..
YORK SACK MILLS.
Lets hope so to give ourselves a fighting chance !

Or else i fear that 27th April headline will be 'york city relegated back to the conference'

time all the happy clappers woke up and saw mills for what he is! A conference manager at best!! There no room in football for sentiment!!!
[quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: Headlines in the press on monday.. YORK SACK MILLS.[/p][/quote]Lets hope so to give ourselves a fighting chance ! Or else i fear that 27th April headline will be 'york city relegated back to the conference' time all the happy clappers woke up and saw mills for what he is! A conference manager at best!! There no room in football for sentiment!!! legend7
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12:25pm Sun 17 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

legend7 wrote:
redbluelion wrote:
Headlines in the press on monday..
YORK SACK MILLS.
Lets hope so to give ourselves a fighting chance !

Or else i fear that 27th April headline will be 'york city relegated back to the conference'

time all the happy clappers woke up and saw mills for what he is! A conference manager at best!! There no room in football for sentiment!!!
Again with the 'happy clappers' thing - why bother? I doubt any of the people you're branding a 'happy clapper' are actually happy with the way things are - there are just some people who think Mills can keep us up, and some that don't. Unless you're a fortune teller, you can't know for certain which is correct, so have some respect for other peoples opinions!
[quote][p][bold]legend7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: Headlines in the press on monday.. YORK SACK MILLS.[/p][/quote]Lets hope so to give ourselves a fighting chance ! Or else i fear that 27th April headline will be 'york city relegated back to the conference' time all the happy clappers woke up and saw mills for what he is! A conference manager at best!! There no room in football for sentiment!!![/p][/quote]Again with the 'happy clappers' thing - why bother? I doubt any of the people you're branding a 'happy clapper' are actually happy with the way things are - there are just some people who think Mills can keep us up, and some that don't. Unless you're a fortune teller, you can't know for certain which is correct, so have some respect for other peoples opinions! YorkCityLuke
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12:32pm Sun 17 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

I am not defending Gary Mills but I really struggle to think what benefits York City would have by sacking him.

1)We would obviously have to pay him off.
2)Who would we get to replace him?.
3)The transfer window has closed.
4)We are already playing the maximum number of loan players.

Any new Manager would probably have to work miracles with the same group of players. So as Gary Mills and his players have got us into this mess, Lets see if they have the balls to get us out of it.

Yesterdays match was contested by two very average teams, but one of them had a bit of fighting spirit (and it wasnt York City).
I am not defending Gary Mills but I really struggle to think what benefits York City would have by sacking him. 1)We would obviously have to pay him off. 2)Who would we get to replace him?. 3)The transfer window has closed. 4)We are already playing the maximum number of loan players. Any new Manager would probably have to work miracles with the same group of players. So as Gary Mills and his players have got us into this mess, Lets see if they have the balls to get us out of it. Yesterdays match was contested by two very average teams, but one of them had a bit of fighting spirit (and it wasnt York City). OLD - HEAD
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12:35pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Head of Bomber Command says...

Head of Bomber Command wrote:
brahma wrote:
On another angle, in the last ten seasons teams have been relegated on 44,47,44,37,42,36,49


,38,45 and 48 points. That's a mean average of 43 and a median of 44, which suggests we probably need two or three more wins to be safe, but possibly four. Any thoughts on where they are going to come from?
I think we need more than 44pts. 49 is my prediction for this season. I am gutted as I really thought Gary would keep us up, it looks like he is not going to achieve it as we are treading water at this moment in time.

Ingham. Obeng. Bullock. O'Connell. Parslow. Rodman. Kerr. McGrath. Mclaughlin. Walker. Rankine.
4-4-2.
Right I have got over yesterday's game, now onto a better playing surface at Oxford and see the lds put in a good diplay of which the SQUAD are more than capable of doing.

Three points will do nicely, so come on you Reds...
[quote][p][bold]Head of Bomber Command[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brahma[/bold] wrote: On another angle, in the last ten seasons teams have been relegated on 44,47,44,37,42,36,49 ,38,45 and 48 points. That's a mean average of 43 and a median of 44, which suggests we probably need two or three more wins to be safe, but possibly four. Any thoughts on where they are going to come from?[/p][/quote]I think we need more than 44pts. 49 is my prediction for this season. I am gutted as I really thought Gary would keep us up, it looks like he is not going to achieve it as we are treading water at this moment in time. Ingham. Obeng. Bullock. O'Connell. Parslow. Rodman. Kerr. McGrath. Mclaughlin. Walker. Rankine. 4-4-2.[/p][/quote]Right I have got over yesterday's game, now onto a better playing surface at Oxford and see the lds put in a good diplay of which the SQUAD are more than capable of doing. Three points will do nicely, so come on you Reds... Head of Bomber Command
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12:40pm Sun 17 Feb 13

garnham says...

I thought Barnet played well & followed the same tatics as most teams have shown at BC for some seasons now. They know we 'supporters' soon get on the backs of the players if things don't go well.
I'm sure it's common knowlege now that the weakest link in York FC is the home support. I was in the main stand & was not impressed with the comments made by the so called fans.
I really think that we all Yes the entire team & loanees are not up to the standard of the football league 2.

But make no mistake another club in a higher league Gary Mills would be a successful manger.
He is unfortunate to be at York & not have an extra source of income to bring in players that could cope with the constant jibes from the faithful.
So where do we go now.... well back to the conference seems to be the preferered opion on here.
I think differently all the players we have will step up away from home. They know that relegated players from the league are not top of any league managers list. They have their own futures at stake for the next contract.

Bad attitude by the home support will take YFC down to the conference...
I thought Barnet played well & followed the same tatics as most teams have shown at BC for some seasons now. They know we 'supporters' soon get on the backs of the players if things don't go well. I'm sure it's common knowlege now that the weakest link in York FC is the home support. I was in the main stand & was not impressed with the comments made by the so called fans. I really think that we all [me included are expecting to much ] Yes the entire team & loanees are not up to the standard of the football league 2. But make no mistake another club in a higher league Gary Mills would be a successful manger. He is unfortunate to be at York & not have an extra source of income to bring in players that could cope with the constant jibes from the faithful. So where do we go now.... well back to the conference seems to be the preferered opion on here. I think differently all the players we have will step up away from home. They know that relegated players from the league are not top of any league managers list. They have their own futures at stake for the next contract. Bad attitude by the home support will take YFC down to the conference... garnham
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12:40pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Phil, Leeds says...

I think Mills must have some sort of death wish. Who on earth would change a solid looking centre back partnership from Tuesday against 1 of the best 2 sides in the league, and bring back the man who marshalled the defence to ship 8 goals in the 2 previous games against moderate opposition? It just beggars belief. There should be no place in the side for Smith or Fyfield (yet another error from Mr Calamity at left back that led to the 2nd Barnet goal). Which imbecile would have taken off the best player on the pitch, Rankine, and replaced him with the completely ineffective, clueless Walker?
Which clown would continue with a formation, 451, that has yielded just 4 wins in 19 home games and is proven, without question on the evidence, to have been an utter failure at home?
Change the formation Mills, play Parslow with O'Connell in the centre of defence and use the player you signed as a right back, Obeng, as a right back. Bring in McReady in midfield and play 442 with Rankine playing the full match.
If we can't beat the 3rd bottom team at home it's really hard to see where we are going to get the 12 points we probably need for safety.
Time to listen to the fans Mr Mills.
I believe Mills is a Conference manager and, don't forget, in his only previous league job, at Notts County, he failed miserably. Lose the arrogance fella.
I think Mills must have some sort of death wish. Who on earth would change a solid looking centre back partnership from Tuesday against 1 of the best 2 sides in the league, and bring back the man who marshalled the defence to ship 8 goals in the 2 previous games against moderate opposition? It just beggars belief. There should be no place in the side for Smith or Fyfield (yet another error from Mr Calamity at left back that led to the 2nd Barnet goal). Which imbecile would have taken off the best player on the pitch, Rankine, and replaced him with the completely ineffective, clueless Walker? Which clown would continue with a formation, 451, that has yielded just 4 wins in 19 home games and is proven, without question on the evidence, to have been an utter failure at home? Change the formation Mills, play Parslow with O'Connell in the centre of defence and use the player you signed as a right back, Obeng, as a right back. Bring in McReady in midfield and play 442 with Rankine playing the full match. If we can't beat the 3rd bottom team at home it's really hard to see where we are going to get the 12 points we probably need for safety. Time to listen to the fans Mr Mills. I believe Mills is a Conference manager and, don't forget, in his only previous league job, at Notts County, he failed miserably. Lose the arrogance fella. Phil, Leeds
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1:02pm Sun 17 Feb 13

arsene.about.york says...

Ok, so most people on here are in agreement that the Terrible Trio must go but most say we can't afford it. Would it not be a good idea to put the 3 of them on gardening leave until their contracts run out ? I know we would still have to pay them but, at least that way they would be away from the club and not able to do any more damage. Then, if there are no outstanding candidates for the job immediately,
give Steve Torpey a go until the end of the season. It must be better than this slow lingering death we are suffering now.
Ok, so most people on here are in agreement that the Terrible Trio must go but most say we can't afford it. Would it not be a good idea to put the 3 of them on gardening leave until their contracts run out ? I know we would still have to pay them but, at least that way they would be away from the club and not able to do any more damage. Then, if there are no outstanding candidates for the job immediately, give Steve Torpey a go until the end of the season. It must be better than this slow lingering death we are suffering now. arsene.about.york
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1:09pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Fergie says...

Millsys post match comments:
It's another game we've lost," Mills told BBC Radio York. "We're not winning football matches, it's another team below us that have just gone and beat us so it's a big blow.

"We've been giving goals away for quite a few games now for quite a few weeks," he continued. "We haven't scored in abundance, we know that's a problem as well. But if you're going to concede like goals like we're conceding at this moment in time, it's just going to make it very very difficult."

Well Mr Mills, you pick the team, you pick the same calamity players at the back week in week out so what do you expect?

For the sake of our football club, I expect to see you sacked monday!!!
Millsys post match comments: It's another game we've lost," Mills told BBC Radio York. "We're not winning football matches, it's another team below us that have just gone and beat us so it's a big blow. "We've been giving goals away for quite a few games now for quite a few weeks," he continued. "We haven't scored in abundance, we know that's a problem as well. But if you're going to concede like goals like we're conceding at this moment in time, it's just going to make it very very difficult." Well Mr Mills, you pick the team, you pick the same calamity players at the back week in week out so what do you expect? For the sake of our football club, I expect to see you sacked monday!!! Fergie
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1:24pm Sun 17 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

what ever happen'd to sir'alex i never see any post from him now.
what ever happen'd to sir'alex i never see any post from him now. redbluelion
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1:40pm Sun 17 Feb 13

haveapasty says...

i went to the game yesterday, my first since the burton game since i live in london, and i was very impressed with the first 15 minutes, where we looked dangerous and like we were going to get a hatful. Unfortuntely, the 75 minutes after that left a lot to be desired. The thing that rankles me is that we can draw three draws in three games against the top two, with good performances in each game, and then ship 10 goals in three games against two mid table sides and another who should be cannon fodder for every team in this league. mills has, in my opinion, run out of ideas at the moment, but rankine and mcgrath have, in parts, looked like they could be good signings and could offer hope.

anyway, i hope we stay up with mills, as I believe next year could be different if we stay up, but we shall see.

in the mean time, i have a football blog, which covers all sorts, so if any of you want to have a look, feel free- any views/comments/feedb
ack are very much appreciated. thanks.

www.thefootballblogu
k.wordpress.com
i went to the game yesterday, my first since the burton game since i live in london, and i was very impressed with the first 15 minutes, where we looked dangerous and like we were going to get a hatful. Unfortuntely, the 75 minutes after that left a lot to be desired. The thing that rankles me is that we can draw three draws in three games against the top two, with good performances in each game, and then ship 10 goals in three games against two mid table sides and another who should be cannon fodder for every team in this league. mills has, in my opinion, run out of ideas at the moment, but rankine and mcgrath have, in parts, looked like they could be good signings and could offer hope. anyway, i hope we stay up with mills, as I believe next year could be different if we stay up, but we shall see. in the mean time, i have a football blog, which covers all sorts, so if any of you want to have a look, feel free- any views/comments/feedb ack are very much appreciated. thanks. www.thefootballblogu k.wordpress.com haveapasty
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1:42pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Dortmun says...

Head of Bomber Command wrote:
brahma wrote:
On another angle, in the last ten seasons teams have been relegated on 44,47,44,37,42,36,49


,38,45 and 48 points. That's a mean average of 43 and a median of 44, which suggests we probably need two or three more wins to be safe, but possibly four. Any thoughts on where they are going to come from?
I think we need more than 44pts. 49 is my prediction for this season. I am gutted as I really thought Gary would keep us up, it looks like he is not going to achieve it as we are treading water at this moment in time.

Ingham. Obeng. Bullock. O'Connell. Parslow. Rodman. Kerr. McGrath. Mclaughlin. Walker. Rankine.
4-4-2.
Where would bullock play?
[quote][p][bold]Head of Bomber Command[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brahma[/bold] wrote: On another angle, in the last ten seasons teams have been relegated on 44,47,44,37,42,36,49 ,38,45 and 48 points. That's a mean average of 43 and a median of 44, which suggests we probably need two or three more wins to be safe, but possibly four. Any thoughts on where they are going to come from?[/p][/quote]I think we need more than 44pts. 49 is my prediction for this season. I am gutted as I really thought Gary would keep us up, it looks like he is not going to achieve it as we are treading water at this moment in time. Ingham. Obeng. Bullock. O'Connell. Parslow. Rodman. Kerr. McGrath. Mclaughlin. Walker. Rankine. 4-4-2.[/p][/quote]Where would bullock play? Dortmun
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1:42pm Sun 17 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

i refer to a post i posted on here about 3 months ago..i said we need to start winning our home games because if our away form was to drop,we would find ourselves in real big trouble.and here we are in big trouble.we are now in a state of Crises..still not winning home games and our away form as dropped..the players we have just don't have any fight in them,and no bottle to man up to the fight.this team is nothing short of a disgrace.gary mills is a disgrace for signing some of these bunch of losers,because that is what they are.i hope they go out and prove me wrong but i can't see any of them having the bottle to dig deep and grind out much needed wins to keep us save from the drop back into non-league football.a fate that will be nail in the coffin for the club i have loved since i was about 7years old..and all our history is going to count for nothing because of this team,letting there manager,club and fans down time after time.
i refer to a post i posted on here about 3 months ago..i said we need to start winning our home games because if our away form was to drop,we would find ourselves in real big trouble.and here we are in big trouble.we are now in a state of Crises..still not winning home games and our away form as dropped..the players we have just don't have any fight in them,and no bottle to man up to the fight.this team is nothing short of a disgrace.gary mills is a disgrace for signing some of these bunch of losers,because that is what they are.i hope they go out and prove me wrong but i can't see any of them having the bottle to dig deep and grind out much needed wins to keep us save from the drop back into non-league football.a fate that will be nail in the coffin for the club i have loved since i was about 7years old..and all our history is going to count for nothing because of this team,letting there manager,club and fans down time after time. redbluelion
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1:46pm Sun 17 Feb 13

tallone says...

its time for mills to change tactics before its to late. his way of playing will take us down, and as for only bringing in players who are better than are already here,his record is poor, although i do like o'connell
its time for mills to change tactics before its to late. his way of playing will take us down, and as for only bringing in players who are better than are already here,his record is poor, although i do like o'connell tallone
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1:48pm Sun 17 Feb 13

ian923 says...

I still support GM and the club but GM must learn from that poor performance and realise it,s time for change. Tell Ingham he MUST command the box. Play 4-4-2 with Ranks and Walker up front .Everson, McDaid and Rodman can replace if necessary. Parslow and O Connel at centre backs with Obeng right back and Fyfield left back. Midfield of Potts,McGrath,Chambe
rs and McLaughlin. Bench-Kerr,Blair,Rod
man!McDaid,Everson,M
ussel white,McReady. McGurk and Oyebanjo not considered because injured.
I still support GM and the club but GM must learn from that poor performance and realise it,s time for change. Tell Ingham he MUST command the box. Play 4-4-2 with Ranks and Walker up front .Everson, McDaid and Rodman can replace if necessary. Parslow and O Connel at centre backs with Obeng right back and Fyfield left back. Midfield of Potts,McGrath,Chambe rs and McLaughlin. Bench-Kerr,Blair,Rod man!McDaid,Everson,M ussel white,McReady. McGurk and Oyebanjo not considered because injured. ian923
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1:54pm Sun 17 Feb 13

headhunter100 says...

What has this got to do with our current form in League 2? You obviously have your views on this youngster but presumably the Youth Set Up at City thought he wasn't up to it - it happens all the time at Clubs and is obviously down to opinions as are many other things in life as this forum well illustrates!”

Someone wrote the above to my comments, what is your prob mate! Have you a son in there who should not be in there, just like a lot of players on the pitch today who should not have been on there. I did go to the match, know a lot about football, now then we are all entitled to our opinion and mine is the management are ****, that is why the messy play was on that pitch today. Just spouting my opinion, like the rest of them, agree with it all.
What has this got to do with our current form in League 2? You obviously have your views on this youngster but presumably the Youth Set Up at City thought he wasn't up to it - it happens all the time at Clubs and is obviously down to opinions as are many other things in life as this forum well illustrates!” Someone wrote the above to my comments, what is your prob mate! Have you a son in there who should not be in there, just like a lot of players on the pitch today who should not have been on there. I did go to the match, know a lot about football, now then we are all entitled to our opinion and mine is the management are ****, that is why the messy play was on that pitch today. Just spouting my opinion, like the rest of them, agree with it all. headhunter100
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2:16pm Sun 17 Feb 13

circuitous route dorset says...

The City fan I respect most texted me yesterday with an expletive when GM took off Ranks. Nuff said. Should have enticed Ward months ago. If we go down I will not forgive the inept tactics and negativity of current management. Lyttle should be ashamed to take his wages and as for GM and DG well they need to take stock and understand that even the stupidest poster on here has been calling this for months and that is not good enough!
The City fan I respect most texted me yesterday with an expletive when GM took off Ranks. Nuff said. Should have enticed Ward months ago. If we go down I will not forgive the inept tactics and negativity of current management. Lyttle should be ashamed to take his wages and as for GM and DG well they need to take stock and understand that even the stupidest poster on here has been calling this for months and that is not good enough! circuitous route dorset
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2:24pm Sun 17 Feb 13

cambersdad says...

i know i said last week that if smith had to play, mills should put him up front with ranks,well i was jokeing,but to be fair when mills went to his only plan b smith didn't do to bad at least he had a few pops at goal, i know it sounds daft but he might just get a few,lets remember wasn't big jon parkin a center back at times seem to remember him playing there,(and scoring a few own goals) and one more thing is it just me but how does fyfield get a game?
i know i said last week that if smith had to play, mills should put him up front with ranks,well i was jokeing,but to be fair when mills went to his only plan b smith didn't do to bad at least he had a few pops at goal, i know it sounds daft but he might just get a few,lets remember wasn't big jon parkin a center back at times seem to remember him playing there,(and scoring a few own goals) and one more thing is it just me but how does fyfield get a game? cambersdad
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2:28pm Sun 17 Feb 13

RooBeck says...

tallone wrote:
its time for mills to change tactics before its to late. his way of playing will take us down, and as for only bringing in players who are better than are already here,his record is poor, although i do like o'connell
Ben Gibson wasn't a bad loan signing and Danny Kearns wasn't too bad either!! Pity Ben hadn't been available to us this season, rather than playing in Birkenhead! Also, John McGarth looks a useful acquisition and GM hasn't done that bad in the short term loan market. Agree re O'Connell and it would be a good time for GM to approach Blackburn for an extension, as they will now be on a high for the next few days!! Where he can be questioned a bit more closely, are some of his permanent signings and longer term loan players but you win some, you lose some, though the player I do like the look of - John MacReady - surely now needs to be given a chance in the starting XI, fitness allowing! Come on fellows, we aren't down yet but as a previous poster remarks, the whole of the playing staff need a swift kick up the a... and then to move on and get it right at Oxford and Rotherham!! COYR.
[quote][p][bold]tallone[/bold] wrote: its time for mills to change tactics before its to late. his way of playing will take us down, and as for only bringing in players who are better than are already here,his record is poor, although i do like o'connell[/p][/quote]Ben Gibson wasn't a bad loan signing and Danny Kearns wasn't too bad either!! Pity Ben hadn't been available to us this season, rather than playing in Birkenhead! Also, John McGarth looks a useful acquisition and GM hasn't done that bad in the short term loan market. Agree re O'Connell and it would be a good time for GM to approach Blackburn for an extension, as they will now be on a high for the next few days!! Where he can be questioned a bit more closely, are some of his permanent signings and longer term loan players but you win some, you lose some, though the player I do like the look of - John MacReady - surely now needs to be given a chance in the starting XI, fitness allowing! Come on fellows, we aren't down yet but as a previous poster remarks, the whole of the playing staff need a swift kick up the a... and then to move on and get it right at Oxford and Rotherham!! COYR. RooBeck
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2:40pm Sun 17 Feb 13

beckylaner says...

I suspect it's too late now unless there's a managerial change. It's a shame, but that's business. GM can't hack it in the Football League. The problem is that most fans could see this coming three months ago - check this site for instance. So why can't the Board? One answer is obvious - that the Board doesn't mind a return to the Conference. Don't ask me why, but it's as plausible an explanation as any other.
I suspect it's too late now unless there's a managerial change. It's a shame, but that's business. GM can't hack it in the Football League. The problem is that most fans could see this coming three months ago - check this site for instance. So why can't the Board? One answer is obvious - that the Board doesn't mind a return to the Conference. Don't ask me why, but it's as plausible an explanation as any other. beckylaner
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2:44pm Sun 17 Feb 13

YoRkIe59 says...

im sick of hearing how the nasty long suffering city fans are the reason we are so poor at home this season.as someone posted the season Brass took us down the fans were behind the team all through up to and after the trapdoor opened im not saying home support can,t have an effect but if the players arnt interested and or the manager has lost the respect of the players they are far bigger factors.ive heard the knockers in the mainstand even when the team is winning but if the players we have at the moment seriously want the home fans to get behind them theres a very simple way of doing it.LOOK AS THOUGH YOU GIVE A DAMM.and if the players do read this all well and good.
im sick of hearing how the nasty long suffering city fans are the reason we are so poor at home this season.as someone posted the season Brass took us down the fans were behind the team all through up to and after the trapdoor opened im not saying home support can,t have an effect but if the players arnt interested and or the manager has lost the respect of the players they are far bigger factors.ive heard the knockers in the mainstand even when the team is winning but if the players we have at the moment seriously want the home fans to get behind them theres a very simple way of doing it.LOOK AS THOUGH YOU GIVE A DAMM.and if the players do read this all well and good. YoRkIe59
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3:04pm Sun 17 Feb 13

big mobe says...

The board cannot afford financially to sack the coaching staff-because of contracts- they will hope Mr Mills et al,
keep us up. So its nippy bottom time!
hold on to your hats!
The board cannot afford financially to sack the coaching staff-because of contracts- they will hope Mr Mills et al, keep us up. So its nippy bottom time! hold on to your hats! big mobe
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3:14pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Thesermons says...

We have come from a league playing against teams like Ebbsfleet, Braintree, Barrow and such like, to playing against seasoned league sides like Port Vale, Gillingham, Bradford etc. Our team are predomenantly conference players, some of who have a sprinkling of League experience. Realistically, we are where I expected us to be. If we can avoid the bottom two clubs then I'll be happy come the end of the season.
We have come from a league playing against teams like Ebbsfleet, Braintree, Barrow and such like, to playing against seasoned league sides like Port Vale, Gillingham, Bradford etc. Our team are predomenantly conference players, some of who have a sprinkling of League experience. Realistically, we are where I expected us to be. If we can avoid the bottom two clubs then I'll be happy come the end of the season. Thesermons
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3:56pm Sun 17 Feb 13

garnham says...

Sack Dolan
Brass must Go !!
Sack Mckewen
Walker is ****
Folye lost the Plot

Perhaps this time the club will stick with the management. We played good football under Gary Mills & the best option this time is to stick with the man that got us out of the conference.

Supporters should support the lads through thick & thin.

Get ready for a rough ride
Sack Dolan Brass must Go !! Sack Mckewen Walker is **** Folye lost the Plot Perhaps this time the club will stick with the management. We played good football under Gary Mills & the best option this time is to stick with the man that got us out of the conference. Supporters should support the lads through thick & thin. Get ready for a rough ride garnham
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4:01pm Sun 17 Feb 13

YoRkIe59 says...

Ian923 as much as i agree Mills should be playing 4 4 2 certainly at home anyway it must be obvious to you and anyone else who advocates that,that mr Mills is never going to do it because he knows he,s right,or is it just that he,s too stubborn and pig headed to try a different idea,i rather think the latter,which is basically the problem
Ian923 as much as i agree Mills should be playing 4 4 2 certainly at home anyway it must be obvious to you and anyone else who advocates that,that mr Mills is never going to do it because he knows he,s right,or is it just that he,s too stubborn and pig headed to try a different idea,i rather think the latter,which is basically the problem YoRkIe59
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4:03pm Sun 17 Feb 13

lifelong says...

Having watched the team play on Tuesday night I was rightly expecting a similar attitude from all players on Saturday. But this was not forthcoming. Where was the desire, the effort, the commitment which was there for all to see against Gillingham. That team did not turn up on Saturday afternoon. For all the praise heaped on Rankine he is clearly not match fit and does not have the holding skills possessed by Walker who I know has other physical limitations which have been exposed by stepping up another Division. Do York just want a big player up front so that he is a target for Ingham's big kicks down the middle in the hope that Rankine can deflect them. We performed better when we passed the ball on the floor.
If York are to stay up then whoever is selected has to show maximum enthusiasm and effort which means they support one another even if this means covering every blade of grass.They did it against Gillingham why can't they do it every match?
Having watched the team play on Tuesday night I was rightly expecting a similar attitude from all players on Saturday. But this was not forthcoming. Where was the desire, the effort, the commitment which was there for all to see against Gillingham. That team did not turn up on Saturday afternoon. For all the praise heaped on Rankine he is clearly not match fit and does not have the holding skills possessed by Walker who I know has other physical limitations which have been exposed by stepping up another Division. Do York just want a big player up front so that he is a target for Ingham's big kicks down the middle in the hope that Rankine can deflect them. We performed better when we passed the ball on the floor. If York are to stay up then whoever is selected has to show maximum enthusiasm and effort which means they support one another even if this means covering every blade of grass.They did it against Gillingham why can't they do it every match? lifelong
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4:03pm Sun 17 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

Watching the horror highlights on TV it confirmed that Rankine did not score our goal, as it was an own goal. But Rankine looked as though he may have scored their first goal, although a Barnet player helped it on its way. Barnets winner probably took a deflection of Rodmans toe on its way in. But I would gladly accept any number of scrappy goals for City right now, as we just seem incapable of scoring at all. Simple basic skills like having the ability to cross a good ball are missing.
Watching the horror highlights on TV it confirmed that Rankine did not score our goal, as it was an own goal. But Rankine looked as though he may have scored their first goal, although a Barnet player helped it on its way. Barnets winner probably took a deflection of Rodmans toe on its way in. But I would gladly accept any number of scrappy goals for City right now, as we just seem incapable of scoring at all. Simple basic skills like having the ability to cross a good ball are missing. OLD - HEAD
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4:52pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Keith...lad says...

It time to get back to basics.
We have to make the most of the players between now and the end of the season.
Lets start by been hard to beat.Have a soild foundation get some belief confidence back into players.
Ideal formation. 4-2-3-1.
gk;Ingham
dc:Ty and oconnell
dr:Obeng
dl:Fyfield
2x dm: Kerr and McGrath
Blair and Chambers to be 2 midfielder supporting front man and at every opportunity.
M: McLoughlin
F: Walker.
It time to get back to basics. We have to make the most of the players between now and the end of the season. Lets start by been hard to beat.Have a soild foundation get some belief confidence back into players. Ideal formation. 4-2-3-1. gk;Ingham dc:Ty and oconnell dr:Obeng dl:Fyfield 2x dm: Kerr and McGrath Blair and Chambers to be 2 midfielder supporting front man and at every opportunity. M: McLoughlin F: Walker. Keith...lad
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4:52pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Keith...lad says...

It time to get back to basics.
We have to make the most of the players between now and the end of the season.
Lets start by been hard to beat.Have a soild foundation get some belief confidence back into players.
Ideal formation. 4-2-3-1.
gk;Ingham
dc:Ty and oconnell
dr:Obeng
dl:Fyfield
2x dm: Kerr and McGrath
Blair and Chambers to be 2 midfielder supporting front man and at every opportunity.
M: McLoughlin
F: Walker.
It time to get back to basics. We have to make the most of the players between now and the end of the season. Lets start by been hard to beat.Have a soild foundation get some belief confidence back into players. Ideal formation. 4-2-3-1. gk;Ingham dc:Ty and oconnell dr:Obeng dl:Fyfield 2x dm: Kerr and McGrath Blair and Chambers to be 2 midfielder supporting front man and at every opportunity. M: McLoughlin F: Walker. Keith...lad
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4:52pm Sun 17 Feb 13

nearlyman says...

bill bailey wrote:
I would ask the Pope before he finishes to come and read "THE LAST RIGHTS,". unless the manager and his lefthand men is shown the door, and replaced by, someone like Nick Barmby,
Gerry Francis,Des Bulpin.
Rites you bufoon !
[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: I would ask the Pope before he finishes to come and read "THE LAST RIGHTS,". unless the manager and his lefthand men is shown the door, and replaced by, someone like Nick Barmby, Gerry Francis,Des Bulpin.[/p][/quote]Rites you bufoon ! nearlyman
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5:09pm Sun 17 Feb 13

joejamestom says...

cambersdad wrote:
i know i said last week that if smith had to play, mills should put him up front with ranks,well i was jokeing,but to be fair when mills went to his only plan b smith didn't do to bad at least he had a few pops at goal, i know it sounds daft but he might just get a few,lets remember wasn't big jon parkin a center back at times seem to remember him playing there,(and scoring a few own goals) and one more thing is it just me but how does fyfield get a game?
Sorry but the least accomplished footballer in the side up front is a comedy all on its own. Granted he is usually solid in the air he pretty much nodded what seemed a goal bound ball a onto the bar. With you on Fyfield on Sat very below par, we were at one time very difficult to break down at the back Pars + TY were a great combo & Oconnel with him were good on Tues if we cannot score at least can we be difficult to beat?
Whilst we are a long way from going down if the worst was to happen I am not sure my season ticket will get renewed, might be better to watch some good ex city players like Dave Merris at Harrogate or just go occasionally to see if City make progress. GM has too many below par players on the books currently to give me confidence please experiment with Smudger on the bench makes my heart sink every time he leads the team out & I am pretty sure players are not doing as told by GM he needs to set a marker down in the group.
[quote][p][bold]cambersdad[/bold] wrote: i know i said last week that if smith had to play, mills should put him up front with ranks,well i was jokeing,but to be fair when mills went to his only plan b smith didn't do to bad at least he had a few pops at goal, i know it sounds daft but he might just get a few,lets remember wasn't big jon parkin a center back at times seem to remember him playing there,(and scoring a few own goals) and one more thing is it just me but how does fyfield get a game?[/p][/quote]Sorry but the least accomplished footballer in the side up front is a comedy all on its own. Granted he is usually solid in the air he pretty much nodded what seemed a goal bound ball a onto the bar. With you on Fyfield on Sat very below par, we were at one time very difficult to break down at the back Pars + TY were a great combo & Oconnel with him were good on Tues if we cannot score at least can we be difficult to beat? Whilst we are a long way from going down if the worst was to happen I am not sure my season ticket will get renewed, might be better to watch some good ex city players like Dave Merris at Harrogate or just go occasionally to see if City make progress. GM has too many below par players on the books currently to give me confidence please experiment with Smudger on the bench makes my heart sink every time he leads the team out & I am pretty sure players are not doing as told by GM he needs to set a marker down in the group. joejamestom
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5:40pm Sun 17 Feb 13

YO1 says...

openallhours wrote:
YO1 wrote:
The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks.

It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management.

At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks.

THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM

Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online.

Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.
I find your post quite offensive. To say that the fans are contributing to the clubs decline is an insult to every fan who makes the effort to attend (and pay to watch) the games.

Mills and the players deserve all of the flack that is coming their way and they need to find the strength required to turn it around. They were more than happy to bathe in the glory last season so what do they expect if they can't win home games.

If there's anything that we've learned about Mills, it's that he's a rude, stubborn and pig headed little man who always has to blame others for his shortcomings.

You can 'Gary clap' us all the way back to the conference if you wish, but I think the majority of fans won't be joining you.
I find you quite offensive and would love to have this discussion with you in person.

The team are playing terribly and changing manager may be inevitable and necessary.

However, one thing is for sure, you and every fan that abuses, scapegoats and boos the team are contributing nothing of benefit either at the game or on this forum.

Tell me, what have you achieved?
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks. It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management. At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks. THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online. Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.[/p][/quote]I find your post quite offensive. To say that the fans are contributing to the clubs decline is an insult to every fan who makes the effort to attend (and pay to watch) the games. Mills and the players deserve all of the flack that is coming their way and they need to find the strength required to turn it around. They were more than happy to bathe in the glory last season so what do they expect if they can't win home games. If there's anything that we've learned about Mills, it's that he's a rude, stubborn and pig headed little man who always has to blame others for his shortcomings. You can 'Gary clap' us all the way back to the conference if you wish, but I think the majority of fans won't be joining you.[/p][/quote]I find you quite offensive and would love to have this discussion with you in person. The team are playing terribly and changing manager may be inevitable and necessary. However, one thing is for sure, you and every fan that abuses, scapegoats and boos the team are contributing nothing of benefit either at the game or on this forum. Tell me, what have you achieved? YO1
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5:41pm Sun 17 Feb 13

PositiveFootball says...

Hey Guys, relax - If we win our game in hand we are only 10 points of the playoffs. Division 1 here we come!
Hey Guys, relax - If we win our game in hand we are only 10 points of the playoffs. Division 1 here we come! PositiveFootball
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5:47pm Sun 17 Feb 13

YO1 says...

duffy wrote:
YO1 wrote:
The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks.

It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management.

At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks.

THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM

Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online.

Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.
To state the fans are contributing to the clubs downfall is nonsense. Let me take you back to the season we were relegated from the conference, the team got fantastic support but still went down. If a squad of players is not good enough for the division they play in they will lose games and that's what's happening. I'll say it again, Mills was too loyal and what we have is a conference team playing league football. I make long journeys to watch the team and have never booed a player in my life but I can see when things are going badly wrong.
Everyone can see that things are going wrong. It doesn't take a return journey from Glasgow to work it out.

However, you are sadly delusional if you think that you're opinion on team selection or mine for that matter will have any influence on a professional football manager.

Supporters aggression, abuse and even silence do have an influence on team performance. To suggest otherwise is nonsense. Do some research on motivation and human behaviour then we can have an intelligent discussion.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks. It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management. At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks. THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online. Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.[/p][/quote]To state the fans are contributing to the clubs downfall is nonsense. Let me take you back to the season we were relegated from the conference, the team got fantastic support but still went down. If a squad of players is not good enough for the division they play in they will lose games and that's what's happening. I'll say it again, Mills was too loyal and what we have is a conference team playing league football. I make long journeys to watch the team and have never booed a player in my life but I can see when things are going badly wrong.[/p][/quote]Everyone can see that things are going wrong. It doesn't take a return journey from Glasgow to work it out. However, you are sadly delusional if you think that you're opinion on team selection or mine for that matter will have any influence on a professional football manager. Supporters aggression, abuse and even silence do have an influence on team performance. To suggest otherwise is nonsense. Do some research on motivation and human behaviour then we can have an intelligent discussion. YO1
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5:53pm Sun 17 Feb 13

long distance depressive says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
Willing to admit I may have been wrong about Mills. We were bad enough to start with, but to take Ranks off when he's the only player of ours to have scored from open play in quite a few games, and the only player of ours who was winning headers, is totally inexplicable. A stupid move, made no sense, and predictably made us toothless.

Equally, why on earth change the centreback pairing from tuesday who did so very well? It's not even a case of Smith being bad (I personally don't think he's so terrible), but why change something which was working almost perfectly less than a week ago?

The players on the pitch tonight were, for the most part, dreadful - but Mills failed to make any positive changes. The board should think of a realistic ultimatum - say, 4 points from the next two games - otherwise we should look for someone else. It's a real shame, Mills has done more for this club than anyone for a very long time, but he's just not reacting to the challenges of this league fast enough.
Should have had Walker and Rankine on..but then that would smack of 4-4-2 and we all now Mills doesn't do changing the game!! Next 3 games require a t least 3 points or ele all the kudos he built last season will have evaporated along with the confidence of te playes and patience of the ever thinning crowds. It's now looking a bit scarey guys...I expect the McGills may ave to brush off their file marked 'PANIC STATIONS'
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: Willing to admit I may have been wrong about Mills. We were bad enough to start with, but to take Ranks off when he's the only player of ours to have scored from open play in quite a few games, and the only player of ours who was winning headers, is totally inexplicable. A stupid move, made no sense, and predictably made us toothless. Equally, why on earth change the centreback pairing from tuesday who did so very well? It's not even a case of Smith being bad (I personally don't think he's so terrible), but why change something which was working almost perfectly less than a week ago? The players on the pitch tonight were, for the most part, dreadful - but Mills failed to make any positive changes. The board should think of a realistic ultimatum - say, 4 points from the next two games - otherwise we should look for someone else. It's a real shame, Mills has done more for this club than anyone for a very long time, but he's just not reacting to the challenges of this league fast enough.[/p][/quote]Should have had Walker and Rankine on..but then that would smack of 4-4-2 and we all now Mills doesn't do changing the game!! Next 3 games require a t least 3 points or ele all the kudos he built last season will have evaporated along with the confidence of te playes and patience of the ever thinning crowds. It's now looking a bit scarey guys...I expect the McGills may ave to brush off their file marked 'PANIC STATIONS' long distance depressive
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6:24pm Sun 17 Feb 13

long distance depressive says...

openallhours wrote:
The argument of 'a new manager wouldn't make any difference' doesn't wash with me. Barnet were dead in the water until Davids came in and Bristol Rovers were rooted to the bottom until a certain Mr Ward came in and now they never lose a game. We have a good squad of players at the club and most fans that post on here could pick a side that would do better than Mills. Lets get Keith Curle in to make us a proper league club again!
Thanks Mrs Curle!
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: The argument of 'a new manager wouldn't make any difference' doesn't wash with me. Barnet were dead in the water until Davids came in and Bristol Rovers were rooted to the bottom until a certain Mr Ward came in and now they never lose a game. We have a good squad of players at the club and most fans that post on here could pick a side that would do better than Mills. Lets get Keith Curle in to make us a proper league club again![/p][/quote]Thanks Mrs Curle! long distance depressive
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6:24pm Sun 17 Feb 13

duffy says...

YO1 wrote:
duffy wrote:
YO1 wrote:
The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks.

It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management.

At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks.

THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM

Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online.

Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.
To state the fans are contributing to the clubs downfall is nonsense. Let me take you back to the season we were relegated from the conference, the team got fantastic support but still went down. If a squad of players is not good enough for the division they play in they will lose games and that's what's happening. I'll say it again, Mills was too loyal and what we have is a conference team playing league football. I make long journeys to watch the team and have never booed a player in my life but I can see when things are going badly wrong.
Everyone can see that things are going wrong. It doesn't take a return journey from Glasgow to work it out.

However, you are sadly delusional if you think that you're opinion on team selection or mine for that matter will have any influence on a professional football manager.

Supporters aggression, abuse and even silence do have an influence on team performance. To suggest otherwise is nonsense. Do some research on motivation and human behaviour then we can have an intelligent discussion.
I actually agree with all of that. My point however is that we are not where we are now because of the fans of York City, as stated the year we were relegated we had excellent support. Of course the reaction of fans plays a part, but its only one part.
[quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks. It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management. At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks. THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online. Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.[/p][/quote]To state the fans are contributing to the clubs downfall is nonsense. Let me take you back to the season we were relegated from the conference, the team got fantastic support but still went down. If a squad of players is not good enough for the division they play in they will lose games and that's what's happening. I'll say it again, Mills was too loyal and what we have is a conference team playing league football. I make long journeys to watch the team and have never booed a player in my life but I can see when things are going badly wrong.[/p][/quote]Everyone can see that things are going wrong. It doesn't take a return journey from Glasgow to work it out. However, you are sadly delusional if you think that you're opinion on team selection or mine for that matter will have any influence on a professional football manager. Supporters aggression, abuse and even silence do have an influence on team performance. To suggest otherwise is nonsense. Do some research on motivation and human behaviour then we can have an intelligent discussion.[/p][/quote]I actually agree with all of that. My point however is that we are not where we are now because of the fans of York City, as stated the year we were relegated we had excellent support. Of course the reaction of fans plays a part, but its only one part. duffy
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6:40pm Sun 17 Feb 13

long distance depressive says...

garnham wrote:
I thought Barnet played well & followed the same tatics as most teams have shown at BC for some seasons now. They know we 'supporters' soon get on the backs of the players if things don't go well.
I'm sure it's common knowlege now that the weakest link in York FC is the home support. I was in the main stand & was not impressed with the comments made by the so called fans.
I really think that we all Yes the entire team & loanees are not up to the standard of the football league 2.

But make no mistake another club in a higher league Gary Mills would be a successful manger.
He is unfortunate to be at York & not have an extra source of income to bring in players that could cope with the constant jibes from the faithful.
So where do we go now.... well back to the conference seems to be the preferered opion on here.
I think differently all the players we have will step up away from home. They know that relegated players from the league are not top of any league managers list. They have their own futures at stake for the next contract.

Bad attitude by the home support will take YFC down to the conference...
When City went 1 up they then proceeded to take ter foot off the gas and sit deep, no real momentum o go for the throat, hardly the fans making them do that! If Milsl didn't like that approach how come he didn't change it? Why didn't he change the formation? why can't he see the bleeding obvious?
This is the issue NOTthe fans (who have been quiet this season though the relentlessly poor fare served up hardly is condusive to wild optimism and gaiety!!
[quote][p][bold]garnham[/bold] wrote: I thought Barnet played well & followed the same tatics as most teams have shown at BC for some seasons now. They know we 'supporters' soon get on the backs of the players if things don't go well. I'm sure it's common knowlege now that the weakest link in York FC is the home support. I was in the main stand & was not impressed with the comments made by the so called fans. I really think that we all [me included are expecting to much ] Yes the entire team & loanees are not up to the standard of the football league 2. But make no mistake another club in a higher league Gary Mills would be a successful manger. He is unfortunate to be at York & not have an extra source of income to bring in players that could cope with the constant jibes from the faithful. So where do we go now.... well back to the conference seems to be the preferered opion on here. I think differently all the players we have will step up away from home. They know that relegated players from the league are not top of any league managers list. They have their own futures at stake for the next contract. Bad attitude by the home support will take YFC down to the conference...[/p][/quote]When City went 1 up they then proceeded to take ter foot off the gas and sit deep, no real momentum o go for the throat, hardly the fans making them do that! If Milsl didn't like that approach how come he didn't change it? Why didn't he change the formation? why can't he see the bleeding obvious? This is the issue NOTthe fans (who have been quiet this season though the relentlessly poor fare served up hardly is condusive to wild optimism and gaiety!! long distance depressive
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6:56pm Sun 17 Feb 13

sixtyfourfive says...

headhunter100 wrote:
What has this got to do with our current form in League 2? You obviously have your views on this youngster but presumably the Youth Set Up at City thought he wasn't up to it - it happens all the time at Clubs and is obviously down to opinions as are many other things in life as this forum well illustrates!”

Someone wrote the above to my comments, what is your prob mate! Have you a son in there who should not be in there, just like a lot of players on the pitch today who should not have been on there. I did go to the match, know a lot about football, now then we are all entitled to our opinion and mine is the management are ****, that is why the messy play was on that pitch today. Just spouting my opinion, like the rest of them, agree with it all.
Use the "quote" button and you would see I made these comments. I don't have any problem with you "mate" - merely expressing a view which you have not coherently responded to. No my son was not playing for City yesterday although I fail to comprehend the relevance of your enquiry on that front? Just out of interest what level has this protégée of yours actually reached at this juncture - even if it's City's loss I hope he makes it - but most don't.
[quote][p][bold]headhunter100[/bold] wrote: What has this got to do with our current form in League 2? You obviously have your views on this youngster but presumably the Youth Set Up at City thought he wasn't up to it - it happens all the time at Clubs and is obviously down to opinions as are many other things in life as this forum well illustrates!” Someone wrote the above to my comments, what is your prob mate! Have you a son in there who should not be in there, just like a lot of players on the pitch today who should not have been on there. I did go to the match, know a lot about football, now then we are all entitled to our opinion and mine is the management are ****, that is why the messy play was on that pitch today. Just spouting my opinion, like the rest of them, agree with it all.[/p][/quote]Use the "quote" button and you would see I made these comments. I don't have any problem with you "mate" - merely expressing a view which you have not coherently responded to. No my son was not playing for City yesterday although I fail to comprehend the relevance of your enquiry on that front? Just out of interest what level has this protégée of yours actually reached at this juncture - even if it's City's loss I hope he makes it - but most don't. sixtyfourfive
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7:46pm Sun 17 Feb 13

bill bailey says...

sixtyfourfive wrote:
headhunter100 wrote:
I know I harp on about a young lad who was let down by City, from being in the set up form age 11 and is an astute player, full of confidence, full of brains, knows the game inside out, nobody would listen to me, but he really is a striker in the making and York City knocked him right down to the ground by not putting him in the Youth Team, hes on a winning streak now and by god would he have made an excellent striker, city lost him his chances by not seeing a good player when they see one. This is what **** me off about the whole set up and they think they are right every single god damned time, these games by the first team iis now proving they are not , have not got a clue , so fans keep harping, but it will get you no where because they know best.
What has this got to do with our current form in League 2? You obviously have your views on this youngster but presumably the Youth Set Up at City thought he wasn't up to it - it happens all the time at Clubs and is obviously down to opinions as are many other things in life as this forum well illustrates!
Headhunter,take no notice of sixtyfourfive,if he knows as much as he thinks,he would know who Des Bulpin is.one of the top coaches in England over the last fifteen years,ask Peter Crouch of Stoke, Headhunter your very
interesting point you made might not altogeather be the problem the club faces, but you are 100% right with the young talented kids around the York area.I watch ages 10,11,12,every week,
on Sunday mornings, 6 of the boys are being monitered by two clubs from the South.i watched Leeds Utd under 11
last week.there are 3 outstanding under 11s,in York. the question i must ask the club, "HAVE YOU BEEN TO SEE THEM?"
[quote][p][bold]sixtyfourfive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]headhunter100[/bold] wrote: I know I harp on about a young lad who was let down by City, from being in the set up form age 11 and is an astute player, full of confidence, full of brains, knows the game inside out, nobody would listen to me, but he really is a striker in the making and York City knocked him right down to the ground by not putting him in the Youth Team, hes on a winning streak now and by god would he have made an excellent striker, city lost him his chances by not seeing a good player when they see one. This is what **** me off about the whole set up and they think they are right every single god damned time, these games by the first team iis now proving they are not , have not got a clue , so fans keep harping, but it will get you no where because they know best.[/p][/quote]What has this got to do with our current form in League 2? You obviously have your views on this youngster but presumably the Youth Set Up at City thought he wasn't up to it - it happens all the time at Clubs and is obviously down to opinions as are many other things in life as this forum well illustrates![/p][/quote]Headhunter,take no notice of sixtyfourfive,if he knows as much as he thinks,he would know who Des Bulpin is.one of the top coaches in England over the last fifteen years,ask Peter Crouch of Stoke, Headhunter your very interesting point you made might not altogeather be the problem the club faces, but you are 100% right with the young talented kids around the York area.I watch ages 10,11,12,every week, on Sunday mornings, 6 of the boys are being monitered by two clubs from the South.i watched Leeds Utd under 11 last week.there are 3 outstanding under 11s,in York. the question i must ask the club, "HAVE YOU BEEN TO SEE THEM?" bill bailey
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7:59pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Mad for Minstermen says...

Some forum users quite rightly state that can we afford to give the GM trio the boot. Can we afford not to. If the worst happens and we go down, I believe you can kiss goodbye to gates of 2000 plus in the conference, I believe that some of the hardcore would give the Crescent a miss. The only way for YCFC to exist is league footsie. If the team goes down and finances become a problem, then City could end up in the Northern Counties league like Scarborough. The gamble has to be get rid of the trio for the long term success of the club. Do it now !
Some forum users quite rightly state that can we afford to give the GM trio the boot. Can we afford not to. If the worst happens and we go down, I believe you can kiss goodbye to gates of 2000 plus in the conference, I believe that some of the hardcore would give the Crescent a miss. The only way for YCFC to exist is league footsie. If the team goes down and finances become a problem, then City could end up in the Northern Counties league like Scarborough. The gamble has to be get rid of the trio for the long term success of the club. Do it now ! Mad for Minstermen
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7:59pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Bert brennan says...

nearlyman wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
I would ask the Pope before he finishes to come and read "THE LAST RIGHTS,". unless the manager and his lefthand men is shown the door, and replaced by, someone like Nick Barmby,
Gerry Francis,Des Bulpin.
Rites you bufoon !
I think you should stop throwing stones,
your greenhouse is in great danger, the word Buffoon has two FF's.
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: I would ask the Pope before he finishes to come and read "THE LAST RIGHTS,". unless the manager and his lefthand men is shown the door, and replaced by, someone like Nick Barmby, Gerry Francis,Des Bulpin.[/p][/quote]Rites you bufoon ![/p][/quote]I think you should stop throwing stones, your greenhouse is in great danger, the word Buffoon has two FF's. Bert brennan
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8:18pm Sun 17 Feb 13

sixtyfourfive says...

bill bailey wrote:
sixtyfourfive wrote:
headhunter100 wrote:
I know I harp on about a young lad who was let down by City, from being in the set up form age 11 and is an astute player, full of confidence, full of brains, knows the game inside out, nobody would listen to me, but he really is a striker in the making and York City knocked him right down to the ground by not putting him in the Youth Team, hes on a winning streak now and by god would he have made an excellent striker, city lost him his chances by not seeing a good player when they see one. This is what **** me off about the whole set up and they think they are right every single god damned time, these games by the first team iis now proving they are not , have not got a clue , so fans keep harping, but it will get you no where because they know best.
What has this got to do with our current form in League 2? You obviously have your views on this youngster but presumably the Youth Set Up at City thought he wasn't up to it - it happens all the time at Clubs and is obviously down to opinions as are many other things in life as this forum well illustrates!
Headhunter,take no notice of sixtyfourfive,if he knows as much as he thinks,he would know who Des Bulpin is.one of the top coaches in England over the last fifteen years,ask Peter Crouch of Stoke, Headhunter your very
interesting point you made might not altogeather be the problem the club faces, but you are 100% right with the young talented kids around the York area.I watch ages 10,11,12,every week,
on Sunday mornings, 6 of the boys are being monitered by two clubs from the South.i watched Leeds Utd under 11
last week.there are 3 outstanding under 11s,in York. the question i must ask the club, "HAVE YOU BEEN TO SEE THEM?"
I do not recall claiming to think I knew it all - merely expressing a view which is my right and what this forum is about. With respect Bill Bailey, Des Bulpin is hardly a household name (yes I have now Wikipedia'd him and power to his elbow) and I suspect 99% of people on here have never heard of him. He is over 60 years old and has never managed a club in England - why I ask - from what I have read he seems to be more an identifier of young talent. Why do you believe he should replace Gary Mills and I repeat have you actually seen City play this season? You seem very keen to jump on the bandwagon of trying to lose the guy his job.
[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sixtyfourfive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]headhunter100[/bold] wrote: I know I harp on about a young lad who was let down by City, from being in the set up form age 11 and is an astute player, full of confidence, full of brains, knows the game inside out, nobody would listen to me, but he really is a striker in the making and York City knocked him right down to the ground by not putting him in the Youth Team, hes on a winning streak now and by god would he have made an excellent striker, city lost him his chances by not seeing a good player when they see one. This is what **** me off about the whole set up and they think they are right every single god damned time, these games by the first team iis now proving they are not , have not got a clue , so fans keep harping, but it will get you no where because they know best.[/p][/quote]What has this got to do with our current form in League 2? You obviously have your views on this youngster but presumably the Youth Set Up at City thought he wasn't up to it - it happens all the time at Clubs and is obviously down to opinions as are many other things in life as this forum well illustrates![/p][/quote]Headhunter,take no notice of sixtyfourfive,if he knows as much as he thinks,he would know who Des Bulpin is.one of the top coaches in England over the last fifteen years,ask Peter Crouch of Stoke, Headhunter your very interesting point you made might not altogeather be the problem the club faces, but you are 100% right with the young talented kids around the York area.I watch ages 10,11,12,every week, on Sunday mornings, 6 of the boys are being monitered by two clubs from the South.i watched Leeds Utd under 11 last week.there are 3 outstanding under 11s,in York. the question i must ask the club, "HAVE YOU BEEN TO SEE THEM?"[/p][/quote]I do not recall claiming to think I knew it all - merely expressing a view which is my right and what this forum is about. With respect Bill Bailey, Des Bulpin is hardly a household name (yes I have now Wikipedia'd him and power to his elbow) and I suspect 99% of people on here have never heard of him. He is over 60 years old and has never managed a club in England - why I ask - from what I have read he seems to be more an identifier of young talent. Why do you believe he should replace Gary Mills and I repeat have you actually seen City play this season? You seem very keen to jump on the bandwagon of trying to lose the guy his job. sixtyfourfive
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8:26pm Sun 17 Feb 13

YO1 says...

duffy wrote:
YO1 wrote:
duffy wrote:
YO1 wrote:
The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks.

It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management.

At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks.

THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM

Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online.

Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.
To state the fans are contributing to the clubs downfall is nonsense. Let me take you back to the season we were relegated from the conference, the team got fantastic support but still went down. If a squad of players is not good enough for the division they play in they will lose games and that's what's happening. I'll say it again, Mills was too loyal and what we have is a conference team playing league football. I make long journeys to watch the team and have never booed a player in my life but I can see when things are going badly wrong.
Everyone can see that things are going wrong. It doesn't take a return journey from Glasgow to work it out.

However, you are sadly delusional if you think that you're opinion on team selection or mine for that matter will have any influence on a professional football manager.

Supporters aggression, abuse and even silence do have an influence on team performance. To suggest otherwise is nonsense. Do some research on motivation and human behaviour then we can have an intelligent discussion.
I actually agree with all of that. My point however is that we are not where we are now because of the fans of York City, as stated the year we were relegated we had excellent support. Of course the reaction of fans plays a part, but its only one part.
May I suggest you read my original post again as both your first response called my opinion nonsense and your second response agreed with it!

What I didn't say was City fans are solely responsible for the situation, thats your misinterpretstion.

I don't think many in the crowd would have taken Rankine off and played Walker and Everson together yesterday.

What I'm saying, just to be absolutely clear, is that City fans can either support the club in a crisis or turn on them. The fans who make the latter choice achieve nothing and contribute to our demise. It's their choice but need to acknowledge the consequence of their actions.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks. It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management. At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks. THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online. Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.[/p][/quote]To state the fans are contributing to the clubs downfall is nonsense. Let me take you back to the season we were relegated from the conference, the team got fantastic support but still went down. If a squad of players is not good enough for the division they play in they will lose games and that's what's happening. I'll say it again, Mills was too loyal and what we have is a conference team playing league football. I make long journeys to watch the team and have never booed a player in my life but I can see when things are going badly wrong.[/p][/quote]Everyone can see that things are going wrong. It doesn't take a return journey from Glasgow to work it out. However, you are sadly delusional if you think that you're opinion on team selection or mine for that matter will have any influence on a professional football manager. Supporters aggression, abuse and even silence do have an influence on team performance. To suggest otherwise is nonsense. Do some research on motivation and human behaviour then we can have an intelligent discussion.[/p][/quote]I actually agree with all of that. My point however is that we are not where we are now because of the fans of York City, as stated the year we were relegated we had excellent support. Of course the reaction of fans plays a part, but its only one part.[/p][/quote]May I suggest you read my original post again as both your first response called my opinion nonsense and your second response agreed with it! What I didn't say was City fans are solely responsible for the situation, thats your misinterpretstion. I don't think many in the crowd would have taken Rankine off and played Walker and Everson together yesterday. What I'm saying, just to be absolutely clear, is that City fans can either support the club in a crisis or turn on them. The fans who make the latter choice achieve nothing and contribute to our demise. It's their choice but need to acknowledge the consequence of their actions. YO1
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8:34pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Mattyd says...

This season stinks of the previous relegation season, I was at Spotland back in 2004 when we beat Rochdale 2-1, with Brass harping on about being consistent and we could make the play offs. I can't remember but I think since that match we won 2 games all season and finished bottom, mainly because of our inabillity to win at home. This season I was at spotland again, beat Rochdale and then everyones harping on about the play offs. We all live in the real world, Mills has had his time and lets use the experience of 2004 and get rid NOW, so we dont end up in the conference again and then the wilderness. Sorry Gary ya did well last season but our home form has been horrendous and even last season wasnt that great for a promoted team. I dont vent my opinions/anger often, so if I have offended anyone, so what its my opinion!
This season stinks of the previous relegation season, I was at Spotland back in 2004 when we beat Rochdale 2-1, with Brass harping on about being consistent and we could make the play offs. I can't remember but I think since that match we won 2 games all season and finished bottom, mainly because of our inabillity to win at home. This season I was at spotland again, beat Rochdale and then everyones harping on about the play offs. We all live in the real world, Mills has had his time and lets use the experience of 2004 and get rid NOW, so we dont end up in the conference again and then the wilderness. Sorry Gary ya did well last season but our home form has been horrendous and even last season wasnt that great for a promoted team. I dont vent my opinions/anger often, so if I have offended anyone, so what its my opinion! Mattyd
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8:35pm Sun 17 Feb 13

rawcliffeyorkieboy says...

Since Feb 22nd 2012 Yorks league performance: P25 W6. Enough said but Mills doesn't have a clue how to fix it. Time to get rid.
Since Feb 22nd 2012 Yorks league performance: P25 W6. Enough said but Mills doesn't have a clue how to fix it. Time to get rid. rawcliffeyorkieboy
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8:47pm Sun 17 Feb 13

sixtyfourfive says...

rawcliffeyorkieboy wrote:
Since Feb 22nd 2012 Yorks league performance: P25 W6. Enough said but Mills doesn't have a clue how to fix it. Time to get rid.
That's not right - we have won 8 in league 2 this season alone!
[quote][p][bold]rawcliffeyorkieboy[/bold] wrote: Since Feb 22nd 2012 Yorks league performance: P25 W6. Enough said but Mills doesn't have a clue how to fix it. Time to get rid.[/p][/quote]That's not right - we have won 8 in league 2 this season alone! sixtyfourfive
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8:48pm Sun 17 Feb 13

duffy says...

YO1 wrote:
duffy wrote:
YO1 wrote:
duffy wrote:
YO1 wrote:
The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks.

It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management.

At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks.

THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM

Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online.

Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.
To state the fans are contributing to the clubs downfall is nonsense. Let me take you back to the season we were relegated from the conference, the team got fantastic support but still went down. If a squad of players is not good enough for the division they play in they will lose games and that's what's happening. I'll say it again, Mills was too loyal and what we have is a conference team playing league football. I make long journeys to watch the team and have never booed a player in my life but I can see when things are going badly wrong.
Everyone can see that things are going wrong. It doesn't take a return journey from Glasgow to work it out.

However, you are sadly delusional if you think that you're opinion on team selection or mine for that matter will have any influence on a professional football manager.

Supporters aggression, abuse and even silence do have an influence on team performance. To suggest otherwise is nonsense. Do some research on motivation and human behaviour then we can have an intelligent discussion.
I actually agree with all of that. My point however is that we are not where we are now because of the fans of York City, as stated the year we were relegated we had excellent support. Of course the reaction of fans plays a part, but its only one part.
May I suggest you read my original post again as both your first response called my opinion nonsense and your second response agreed with it!

What I didn't say was City fans are solely responsible for the situation, thats your misinterpretstion.

I don't think many in the crowd would have taken Rankine off and played Walker and Everson together yesterday.

What I'm saying, just to be absolutely clear, is that City fans can either support the club in a crisis or turn on them. The fans who make the latter choice achieve nothing and contribute to our demise. It's their choice but need to acknowledge the consequence of their actions.
To make myself clear. You stated the majority of city fans were contributing to the clubs downfall, that's nonsense. Can the behaviour of fans have a negative impact on players? Yes it can. You assumed I therefore agreed on your first point ? I still don't, the reason being the only thing I would say the " majority" of city fans are guilty of this season is not making enough noise and that's understandable given many of the home performances.
[quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks. It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management. At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks. THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online. Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.[/p][/quote]To state the fans are contributing to the clubs downfall is nonsense. Let me take you back to the season we were relegated from the conference, the team got fantastic support but still went down. If a squad of players is not good enough for the division they play in they will lose games and that's what's happening. I'll say it again, Mills was too loyal and what we have is a conference team playing league football. I make long journeys to watch the team and have never booed a player in my life but I can see when things are going badly wrong.[/p][/quote]Everyone can see that things are going wrong. It doesn't take a return journey from Glasgow to work it out. However, you are sadly delusional if you think that you're opinion on team selection or mine for that matter will have any influence on a professional football manager. Supporters aggression, abuse and even silence do have an influence on team performance. To suggest otherwise is nonsense. Do some research on motivation and human behaviour then we can have an intelligent discussion.[/p][/quote]I actually agree with all of that. My point however is that we are not where we are now because of the fans of York City, as stated the year we were relegated we had excellent support. Of course the reaction of fans plays a part, but its only one part.[/p][/quote]May I suggest you read my original post again as both your first response called my opinion nonsense and your second response agreed with it! What I didn't say was City fans are solely responsible for the situation, thats your misinterpretstion. I don't think many in the crowd would have taken Rankine off and played Walker and Everson together yesterday. What I'm saying, just to be absolutely clear, is that City fans can either support the club in a crisis or turn on them. The fans who make the latter choice achieve nothing and contribute to our demise. It's their choice but need to acknowledge the consequence of their actions.[/p][/quote]To make myself clear. You stated the majority of city fans were contributing to the clubs downfall, that's nonsense. Can the behaviour of fans have a negative impact on players? Yes it can. You assumed I therefore agreed on your first point ? I still don't, the reason being the only thing I would say the " majority" of city fans are guilty of this season is not making enough noise and that's understandable given many of the home performances. duffy
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9:08pm Sun 17 Feb 13

lord_love_rocket says...

Has he gone yet?
Has he gone yet? lord_love_rocket
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9:26pm Sun 17 Feb 13

YO1 says...

duffy wrote:
YO1 wrote:
duffy wrote:
YO1 wrote:
duffy wrote:
YO1 wrote:
The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks.

It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management.

At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks.

THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM

Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online.

Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.
To state the fans are contributing to the clubs downfall is nonsense. Let me take you back to the season we were relegated from the conference, the team got fantastic support but still went down. If a squad of players is not good enough for the division they play in they will lose games and that's what's happening. I'll say it again, Mills was too loyal and what we have is a conference team playing league football. I make long journeys to watch the team and have never booed a player in my life but I can see when things are going badly wrong.
Everyone can see that things are going wrong. It doesn't take a return journey from Glasgow to work it out.

However, you are sadly delusional if you think that you're opinion on team selection or mine for that matter will have any influence on a professional football manager.

Supporters aggression, abuse and even silence do have an influence on team performance. To suggest otherwise is nonsense. Do some research on motivation and human behaviour then we can have an intelligent discussion.
I actually agree with all of that. My point however is that we are not where we are now because of the fans of York City, as stated the year we were relegated we had excellent support. Of course the reaction of fans plays a part, but its only one part.
May I suggest you read my original post again as both your first response called my opinion nonsense and your second response agreed with it!

What I didn't say was City fans are solely responsible for the situation, thats your misinterpretstion.

I don't think many in the crowd would have taken Rankine off and played Walker and Everson together yesterday.

What I'm saying, just to be absolutely clear, is that City fans can either support the club in a crisis or turn on them. The fans who make the latter choice achieve nothing and contribute to our demise. It's their choice but need to acknowledge the consequence of their actions.
To make myself clear. You stated the majority of city fans were contributing to the clubs downfall, that's nonsense. Can the behaviour of fans have a negative impact on players? Yes it can. You assumed I therefore agreed on your first point ? I still don't, the reason being the only thing I would say the " majority" of city fans are guilty of this season is not making enough noise and that's understandable given many of the home performances.
I'm sure you must have better things to do with your time.

I know I have.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks. It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management. At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks. THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online. Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.[/p][/quote]To state the fans are contributing to the clubs downfall is nonsense. Let me take you back to the season we were relegated from the conference, the team got fantastic support but still went down. If a squad of players is not good enough for the division they play in they will lose games and that's what's happening. I'll say it again, Mills was too loyal and what we have is a conference team playing league football. I make long journeys to watch the team and have never booed a player in my life but I can see when things are going badly wrong.[/p][/quote]Everyone can see that things are going wrong. It doesn't take a return journey from Glasgow to work it out. However, you are sadly delusional if you think that you're opinion on team selection or mine for that matter will have any influence on a professional football manager. Supporters aggression, abuse and even silence do have an influence on team performance. To suggest otherwise is nonsense. Do some research on motivation and human behaviour then we can have an intelligent discussion.[/p][/quote]I actually agree with all of that. My point however is that we are not where we are now because of the fans of York City, as stated the year we were relegated we had excellent support. Of course the reaction of fans plays a part, but its only one part.[/p][/quote]May I suggest you read my original post again as both your first response called my opinion nonsense and your second response agreed with it! What I didn't say was City fans are solely responsible for the situation, thats your misinterpretstion. I don't think many in the crowd would have taken Rankine off and played Walker and Everson together yesterday. What I'm saying, just to be absolutely clear, is that City fans can either support the club in a crisis or turn on them. The fans who make the latter choice achieve nothing and contribute to our demise. It's their choice but need to acknowledge the consequence of their actions.[/p][/quote]To make myself clear. You stated the majority of city fans were contributing to the clubs downfall, that's nonsense. Can the behaviour of fans have a negative impact on players? Yes it can. You assumed I therefore agreed on your first point ? I still don't, the reason being the only thing I would say the " majority" of city fans are guilty of this season is not making enough noise and that's understandable given many of the home performances.[/p][/quote]I'm sure you must have better things to do with your time. I know I have. YO1
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9:36pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Mad for Minstermen says...

A taxi driver has just stopped me and asked where is he supposed to be picking a Mr Mills up from !!
A taxi driver has just stopped me and asked where is he supposed to be picking a Mr Mills up from !! Mad for Minstermen
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9:53pm Sun 17 Feb 13

neutral observer 2 says...

duffy wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
pip007 wrote:
We won't go down.
That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.
No it wasnt.
We needed a point at Man City.
And had ample chance to stave off the conference.
It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board.
If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?
Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?
I dont know what Dolan has to do with anything.
Your writing style reminds me of someone who though the biggest injustice the club ever instigated was sacking terry Dolan.
Writing style ?
The greatest injustice was using Chris Brass as a untried 27 year old as a manager.
As predicted by the LMA it was a disaster.
Sacking manager after manager appears to be all that ever happens. The clubs judgement to appoint Colin Walker ? What was that all about.
I couldnt care less about league football. When the club move it will die in its current form anyway.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: We won't go down.[/p][/quote]That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.[/p][/quote]No it wasnt. We needed a point at Man City. And had ample chance to stave off the conference. It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board. If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?[/p][/quote]Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?[/p][/quote]I dont know what Dolan has to do with anything.[/p][/quote]Your writing style reminds me of someone who though the biggest injustice the club ever instigated was sacking terry Dolan.[/p][/quote]Writing style ? The greatest injustice was using Chris Brass as a untried 27 year old as a manager. As predicted by the LMA it was a disaster. Sacking manager after manager appears to be all that ever happens. The clubs judgement to appoint Colin Walker ? What was that all about. I couldnt care less about league football. When the club move it will die in its current form anyway. neutral observer 2
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10:23pm Sun 17 Feb 13

ADAMCUTHBERT says...

garnham wrote:
I thought Barnet played well & followed the same tatics as most teams have shown at BC for some seasons now. They know we 'supporters' soon get on the backs of the players if things don't go well. I'm sure it's common knowlege now that the weakest link in York FC is the home support. I was in the main stand & was not impressed with the comments made by the so called fans. I really think that we all Yes the entire team & loanees are not up to the standard of the football league 2. But make no mistake another club in a higher league Gary Mills would be a successful manger. He is unfortunate to be at York & not have an extra source of income to bring in players that could cope with the constant jibes from the faithful. So where do we go now.... well back to the conference seems to be the preferered opion on here. I think differently all the players we have will step up away from home. They know that relegated players from the league are not top of any league managers list. They have their own futures at stake for the next contract. Bad attitude by the home support will take YFC down to the conference...
Are you on something?
[quote][p][bold]garnham[/bold] wrote: I thought Barnet played well & followed the same tatics as most teams have shown at BC for some seasons now. They know we 'supporters' soon get on the backs of the players if things don't go well. I'm sure it's common knowlege now that the weakest link in York FC is the home support. I was in the main stand & was not impressed with the comments made by the so called fans. I really think that we all [me included are expecting to much ] Yes the entire team & loanees are not up to the standard of the football league 2. But make no mistake another club in a higher league Gary Mills would be a successful manger. He is unfortunate to be at York & not have an extra source of income to bring in players that could cope with the constant jibes from the faithful. So where do we go now.... well back to the conference seems to be the preferered opion on here. I think differently all the players we have will step up away from home. They know that relegated players from the league are not top of any league managers list. They have their own futures at stake for the next contract. Bad attitude by the home support will take YFC down to the conference...[/p][/quote]Are you on something? ADAMCUTHBERT
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6:50am Mon 18 Feb 13

brahma says...

neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
pip007 wrote:
We won't go down.
That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.
No it wasnt.
We needed a point at Man City.
And had ample chance to stave off the conference.
It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board.
If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?
Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?
I dont know what Dolan has to do with anything.
Your writing style reminds me of someone who though the biggest injustice the club ever instigated was sacking terry Dolan.
Writing style ?
The greatest injustice was using Chris Brass as a untried 27 year old as a manager.
As predicted by the LMA it was a disaster.
Sacking manager after manager appears to be all that ever happens. The clubs judgement to appoint Colin Walker ? What was that all about.
I couldnt care less about league football. When the club move it will die in its current form anyway.
Do I hear the harsh rasp of an axe being ground?
[quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: We won't go down.[/p][/quote]That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.[/p][/quote]No it wasnt. We needed a point at Man City. And had ample chance to stave off the conference. It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board. If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?[/p][/quote]Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?[/p][/quote]I dont know what Dolan has to do with anything.[/p][/quote]Your writing style reminds me of someone who though the biggest injustice the club ever instigated was sacking terry Dolan.[/p][/quote]Writing style ? The greatest injustice was using Chris Brass as a untried 27 year old as a manager. As predicted by the LMA it was a disaster. Sacking manager after manager appears to be all that ever happens. The clubs judgement to appoint Colin Walker ? What was that all about. I couldnt care less about league football. When the club move it will die in its current form anyway.[/p][/quote]Do I hear the harsh rasp of an axe being ground? brahma
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6:51am Mon 18 Feb 13

skilly says...

Poor performance, poor result, move on. 13 games to turn it around and I think we will. There is prob 10 teams all capable of being dragged into a dogfight so its not as though we are down and out with no hope!! Its all over reaction as usual on here. The players and management now there jobs are at stake so lets get behind them and get the points we need. Taxi can go and find another manager to collect! Get behind Mills and the lads COYR
Poor performance, poor result, move on. 13 games to turn it around and I think we will. There is prob 10 teams all capable of being dragged into a dogfight so its not as though we are down and out with no hope!! Its all over reaction as usual on here. The players and management now there jobs are at stake so lets get behind them and get the points we need. Taxi can go and find another manager to collect! Get behind Mills and the lads COYR skilly
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8:01am Mon 18 Feb 13

Head of Bomber Command says...

After another day to have a think about things I agree with what skilly puts. We are all gutted at what has transpired over the last few months, but lets stop the 'Mills out' fever and give our support to all the team and staff. We are in a bit of a dog fight, but we should all be together in the aim of securing our League Status for next season.

The management team will sort it out with our continued support.
GM tried to bring in a left back at the death once Meredith FINALLY decided he was going. He had Clarke Carlise brought in to shore up the defence, so it is not that GM does not know where the issue's lay. Now getting a goal scorer is a different and far more expensive matter. We do not have the finances to get what we require.

Lets see what the next week or so brings in people coming and going.

Gary should be given the chance to keep us up and I am sure there are more than two worse teams than us. He will ship out the dead wood at the season's end and we will be left with very few of the present squad. He has been let down by many players he put his trust in. Put more blame the players, not the manager and staff IMO.

Gary did what so many pople tried before him and failed, got us out of the Conference. Give the guy a chance and stop the witch hunt eh?
After another day to have a think about things I agree with what skilly puts. We are all gutted at what has transpired over the last few months, but lets stop the 'Mills out' fever and give our support to all the team and staff. We are in a bit of a dog fight, but we should all be together in the aim of securing our League Status for next season. The management team will sort it out with our continued support. GM tried to bring in a left back at the death once Meredith FINALLY decided he was going. He had Clarke Carlise brought in to shore up the defence, so it is not that GM does not know where the issue's lay. Now getting a goal scorer is a different and far more expensive matter. We do not have the finances to get what we require. Lets see what the next week or so brings in people coming and going. Gary should be given the chance to keep us up and I am sure there are more than two worse teams than us. He will ship out the dead wood at the season's end and we will be left with very few of the present squad. He has been let down by many players he put his trust in. Put more blame the players, not the manager and staff IMO. Gary did what so many pople tried before him and failed, got us out of the Conference. Give the guy a chance and stop the witch hunt eh? Head of Bomber Command
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8:23am Mon 18 Feb 13

nearlyman says...

Bert brennan wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
I would ask the Pope before he finishes to come and read "THE LAST RIGHTS,". unless the manager and his lefthand men is shown the door, and replaced by, someone like Nick Barmby,
Gerry Francis,Des Bulpin.
Rites you bufoon !
I think you should stop throwing stones,
your greenhouse is in great danger, the word Buffoon has two FF's.
Apologies ! maybe time for a new keyboard.......hones
tly it did not register the second F ! mortified !!
[quote][p][bold]Bert brennan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: I would ask the Pope before he finishes to come and read "THE LAST RIGHTS,". unless the manager and his lefthand men is shown the door, and replaced by, someone like Nick Barmby, Gerry Francis,Des Bulpin.[/p][/quote]Rites you bufoon ![/p][/quote]I think you should stop throwing stones, your greenhouse is in great danger, the word Buffoon has two FF's.[/p][/quote]Apologies ! maybe time for a new keyboard.......hones tly it did not register the second F ! mortified !! nearlyman
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9:28am Mon 18 Feb 13

rogue84 says...

only just got round to wanting to read the comments on here as saturday's game left me physically shaking with anger at the result.
I am a big fan of Mills, but I do have to question the tactics used in such a game. With that 8 points cushion (prior to k/o) we should have gone out all guns blazing and just blown them away, and to have taken the lead after 4 minutes was perfect. why didn't we just carry on and bang in a few more?
many people have questioned the decision to bring C.Smith back in, but I would also question leaving our creative centre-midfielders on the bench. paddy and potts may have lost form a bit recently (as have all of them) but we desperately needed an outlet for the front-men, and that just didn't come from the 3 in the middle.
i still think we will stay up, but that result needs to be a major kick up the backside for everyone at the club. a few clubs are on bad runs as well, particularly accrington and torquay...lets hope we can go to oxford and at least put in a performance worthy of the club.
only just got round to wanting to read the comments on here as saturday's game left me physically shaking with anger at the result. I am a big fan of Mills, but I do have to question the tactics used in such a game. With that 8 points cushion (prior to k/o) we should have gone out all guns blazing and just blown them away, and to have taken the lead after 4 minutes was perfect. why didn't we just carry on and bang in a few more? many people have questioned the decision to bring C.Smith back in, but I would also question leaving our creative centre-midfielders on the bench. paddy and potts may have lost form a bit recently (as have all of them) but we desperately needed an outlet for the front-men, and that just didn't come from the 3 in the middle. i still think we will stay up, but that result needs to be a major kick up the backside for everyone at the club. a few clubs are on bad runs as well, particularly accrington and torquay...lets hope we can go to oxford and at least put in a performance worthy of the club. rogue84
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9:28am Mon 18 Feb 13

Wind Mills says...

For those of you saying Smith played OK saturday nad he's not to blame heres my observations.

On Tuesday the defence pushed to the halfway line as soon as possible and played a veey high line allowing the midfield to close down higher up the pitch.
Where as on Saturday Smith was a good 10 to 15 yards inside his own half for 90% of the game meaning Kerr ended up playing more or less with the back 4, in turn Chambers and Blair also had to play much deeper and became ineffectve.

I dont claim to be a football manager or even a great player but I have played and anybody with an ounce of football knowledge would have seen this on Saturday and this was the difference from Tuesday.

To survive Smith has to dropped.

Anyway I'll see you all at Oxford
For those of you saying Smith played OK saturday nad he's not to blame heres my observations. On Tuesday the defence pushed to the halfway line as soon as possible and played a veey high line allowing the midfield to close down higher up the pitch. Where as on Saturday Smith was a good 10 to 15 yards inside his own half for 90% of the game meaning Kerr ended up playing more or less with the back 4, in turn Chambers and Blair also had to play much deeper and became ineffectve. I dont claim to be a football manager or even a great player but I have played and anybody with an ounce of football knowledge would have seen this on Saturday and this was the difference from Tuesday. To survive Smith has to dropped. Anyway I'll see you all at Oxford Wind Mills
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10:21am Mon 18 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

I am absoloutely fed up of reading about negative home support being the cause of our poor league position. We turn up week after week hoping that the tide will turn, and we will at last win a game. But negative play and tactics are sending us back into non-league football. Stop making excuses, for it is the teams display on the pitch that brings the crowd into the game. I defy anybody to clap and cheer throughout ninety minutes of that kind of rubbish. I can assure you that there are a lot of worried fans out there.
I am absoloutely fed up of reading about negative home support being the cause of our poor league position. We turn up week after week hoping that the tide will turn, and we will at last win a game. But negative play and tactics are sending us back into non-league football. Stop making excuses, for it is the teams display on the pitch that brings the crowd into the game. I defy anybody to clap and cheer throughout ninety minutes of that kind of rubbish. I can assure you that there are a lot of worried fans out there. OLD - HEAD
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10:23am Mon 18 Feb 13

Head of Bomber Command says...

The Barnet game has certainly caused interest amongst the fans. 165 post's prior to this one.

Hold you nerve every one, we will manage it, of that I am sure.
The Barnet game has certainly caused interest amongst the fans. 165 post's prior to this one. Hold you nerve every one, we will manage it, of that I am sure. Head of Bomber Command
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10:40am Mon 18 Feb 13

Southern Exile says...

OLD - HEAD wrote:
I am absoloutely fed up of reading about negative home support being the cause of our poor league position. We turn up week after week hoping that the tide will turn, and we will at last win a game. But negative play and tactics are sending us back into non-league football. Stop making excuses, for it is the teams display on the pitch that brings the crowd into the game. I defy anybody to clap and cheer throughout ninety minutes of that kind of rubbish. I can assure you that there are a lot of worried fans out there.
Agreed, if you want a positive reaction from the crowd give them something positive to respond to...

Have been a big fan of Mr Mills but he needs to very quickly sort out the tactics, selection and motivation of this team because at the moment none of these are correct and that can not be allowed to continue. That's his job and if he can't do it he should move on.
[quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: I am absoloutely fed up of reading about negative home support being the cause of our poor league position. We turn up week after week hoping that the tide will turn, and we will at last win a game. But negative play and tactics are sending us back into non-league football. Stop making excuses, for it is the teams display on the pitch that brings the crowd into the game. I defy anybody to clap and cheer throughout ninety minutes of that kind of rubbish. I can assure you that there are a lot of worried fans out there.[/p][/quote]Agreed, if you want a positive reaction from the crowd give them something positive to respond to... Have been a big fan of Mr Mills but he needs to very quickly sort out the tactics, selection and motivation of this team because at the moment none of these are correct and that can not be allowed to continue. That's his job and if he can't do it he should move on. Southern Exile
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10:43am Mon 18 Feb 13

openallhours says...

YO1 wrote:
openallhours wrote:
YO1 wrote: The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks. It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management. At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks. THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online. Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.
I find your post quite offensive. To say that the fans are contributing to the clubs decline is an insult to every fan who makes the effort to attend (and pay to watch) the games. Mills and the players deserve all of the flack that is coming their way and they need to find the strength required to turn it around. They were more than happy to bathe in the glory last season so what do they expect if they can't win home games. If there's anything that we've learned about Mills, it's that he's a rude, stubborn and pig headed little man who always has to blame others for his shortcomings. You can 'Gary clap' us all the way back to the conference if you wish, but I think the majority of fans won't be joining you.
I find you quite offensive and would love to have this discussion with you in person. The team are playing terribly and changing manager may be inevitable and necessary. However, one thing is for sure, you and every fan that abuses, scapegoats and boos the team are contributing nothing of benefit either at the game or on this forum. Tell me, what have you achieved?
Firstly, anybody who knows me will happily tell you that I'd be the first in line to speak with Mills face to face.

Secondly, it's very sad that you'd rather turn on York fans rather than look at the real reason why we're not winning football matches.

Finally, thank you for saying that you'd love to me in person but sorry, I'm not that way inclined. Why don't you check out some of the dating websites as I'm sure that there are plenty of men who would take you up on your offer.
[quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: The team has looked completely shot of confidence yesterday. Something has drastically changed in recent weeks. It's how each individual reacts to adversity that counts. That means every fan as well as players and management. At this moment in time the majority of fans are contributing to the club's downfall. No singing, constant moaning, abuse and scapegoating. Read Tony Kelly's article in the Press yesterday for an objective opinion on City fans behaviour in recent weeks. THE PLAYERS READ THIS FORUM Each fan needs to take responsibility for their actions. at the game and online. Do something positive for a change, support the team at the game and on your bedroom keyboard or accept responsibility for contributing to the decline of this club.[/p][/quote]I find your post quite offensive. To say that the fans are contributing to the clubs decline is an insult to every fan who makes the effort to attend (and pay to watch) the games. Mills and the players deserve all of the flack that is coming their way and they need to find the strength required to turn it around. They were more than happy to bathe in the glory last season so what do they expect if they can't win home games. If there's anything that we've learned about Mills, it's that he's a rude, stubborn and pig headed little man who always has to blame others for his shortcomings. You can 'Gary clap' us all the way back to the conference if you wish, but I think the majority of fans won't be joining you.[/p][/quote]I find you quite offensive and would love to have this discussion with you in person. The team are playing terribly and changing manager may be inevitable and necessary. However, one thing is for sure, you and every fan that abuses, scapegoats and boos the team are contributing nothing of benefit either at the game or on this forum. Tell me, what have you achieved?[/p][/quote]Firstly, anybody who knows me will happily tell you that I'd be the first in line to speak with Mills face to face. Secondly, it's very sad that you'd rather turn on York fans rather than look at the real reason why we're not winning football matches. Finally, thank you for saying that you'd love to me in person but sorry, I'm not that way inclined. Why don't you check out some of the dating websites as I'm sure that there are plenty of men who would take you up on your offer. openallhours
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11:05am Mon 18 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

OLD - HEAD wrote:
I am absoloutely fed up of reading about negative home support being the cause of our poor league position. We turn up week after week hoping that the tide will turn, and we will at last win a game. But negative play and tactics are sending us back into non-league football. Stop making excuses, for it is the teams display on the pitch that brings the crowd into the game. I defy anybody to clap and cheer throughout ninety minutes of that kind of rubbish. I can assure you that there are a lot of worried fans out there.
You're absolutely right that negative support had nothing to do with the poor result on saturday, or the few before that. But in previous games - notably Burton and Bristol Rovers, both comfortable wins - the stands were still almost silent. I don't see the poor atmosphere at the games being the cause of our current problems, but it's not helping either.
[quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: I am absoloutely fed up of reading about negative home support being the cause of our poor league position. We turn up week after week hoping that the tide will turn, and we will at last win a game. But negative play and tactics are sending us back into non-league football. Stop making excuses, for it is the teams display on the pitch that brings the crowd into the game. I defy anybody to clap and cheer throughout ninety minutes of that kind of rubbish. I can assure you that there are a lot of worried fans out there.[/p][/quote]You're absolutely right that negative support had nothing to do with the poor result on saturday, or the few before that. But in previous games - notably Burton and Bristol Rovers, both comfortable wins - the stands were still almost silent. I don't see the poor atmosphere at the games being the cause of our current problems, but it's not helping either. YorkCityLuke
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11:24am Mon 18 Feb 13

duffy says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
I am absoloutely fed up of reading about negative home support being the cause of our poor league position. We turn up week after week hoping that the tide will turn, and we will at last win a game. But negative play and tactics are sending us back into non-league football. Stop making excuses, for it is the teams display on the pitch that brings the crowd into the game. I defy anybody to clap and cheer throughout ninety minutes of that kind of rubbish. I can assure you that there are a lot of worried fans out there.
You're absolutely right that negative support had nothing to do with the poor result on saturday, or the few before that. But in previous games - notably Burton and Bristol Rovers, both comfortable wins - the stands were still almost silent. I don't see the poor atmosphere at the games being the cause of our current problems, but it's not helping either.
It obviously does not help when it's so quiet but I certainly have not heard a massive amount of abuse. This line trotted out that the fans of York City are taking the club down is ridiculous beyond belief. There have been so many poor home performances this season it was always going to effect the crowd.
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: I am absoloutely fed up of reading about negative home support being the cause of our poor league position. We turn up week after week hoping that the tide will turn, and we will at last win a game. But negative play and tactics are sending us back into non-league football. Stop making excuses, for it is the teams display on the pitch that brings the crowd into the game. I defy anybody to clap and cheer throughout ninety minutes of that kind of rubbish. I can assure you that there are a lot of worried fans out there.[/p][/quote]You're absolutely right that negative support had nothing to do with the poor result on saturday, or the few before that. But in previous games - notably Burton and Bristol Rovers, both comfortable wins - the stands were still almost silent. I don't see the poor atmosphere at the games being the cause of our current problems, but it's not helping either.[/p][/quote]It obviously does not help when it's so quiet but I certainly have not heard a massive amount of abuse. This line trotted out that the fans of York City are taking the club down is ridiculous beyond belief. There have been so many poor home performances this season it was always going to effect the crowd. duffy
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12:31pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Mad for Minstermen says...

Shock, horror, Mills still in post !! Sort it out.....NOW !
Shock, horror, Mills still in post !! Sort it out.....NOW ! Mad for Minstermen
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12:47pm Mon 18 Feb 13

rupertbehr says...

Re:- The Duffy /Cityforthepremiersh
ip spat.
City`s system works very well away, the amount of home fans who approach us (travelling fans) after away games with high praise is astonishing ...... and for good reason !!
When teams arrive @ BC with the sole intention of NOT allowing us to play League2 total football,
all I /(we) are looking for is another option.
4-4-2 with Ranks&Jase may not work,
but then again .........it just might !!!
Re:- The Duffy /Cityforthepremiersh ip spat. City`s system works very well away, the amount of home fans who approach us (travelling fans) after away games with high praise is astonishing ...... and for good reason !! When teams arrive @ BC with the sole intention of NOT allowing us to play League2 total football, all I /(we) are looking for is another option. 4-4-2 with Ranks&Jase may not work, but then again .........it just might !!! rupertbehr
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3:07pm Mon 18 Feb 13

neutral observer 2 says...

brahma wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
duffy wrote:
pip007 wrote:
We won't go down.
That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.
No it wasnt.
We needed a point at Man City.
And had ample chance to stave off the conference.
It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board.
If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?
Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?
I dont know what Dolan has to do with anything.
Your writing style reminds me of someone who though the biggest injustice the club ever instigated was sacking terry Dolan.
Writing style ?
The greatest injustice was using Chris Brass as a untried 27 year old as a manager.
As predicted by the LMA it was a disaster.
Sacking manager after manager appears to be all that ever happens. The clubs judgement to appoint Colin Walker ? What was that all about.
I couldnt care less about league football. When the club move it will die in its current form anyway.
Do I hear the harsh rasp of an axe being ground?
Why would that be ?
All i was aluding to was sacking managers is the only thing club owners come up with.
If McGill doesn't have the means or wherewithall, look for someone else who has.
Why not a serious offer to the likes of Pearson.
This Duffy fella appears to want to support my view the McGills got it wrong more than once, maybe they need a mirror.
Moving to a new ground wont make any difference
[quote][p][bold]brahma[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: We won't go down.[/p][/quote]That's what was said in both the previous relegation seasons even up until the final week when we played Man City. What makes you so confident, faith ? Because its not the results since November.[/p][/quote]No it wasnt. We needed a point at Man City. And had ample chance to stave off the conference. It was viewed as "not a total disaster" by the board. If we were to go down again, dont they have any responcibility in taking us down twice ?[/p][/quote]Oh thats what many were saying with their heads still in the sand, but then Dolan should never have been sacked eh ?[/p][/quote]I dont know what Dolan has to do with anything.[/p][/quote]Your writing style reminds me of someone who though the biggest injustice the club ever instigated was sacking terry Dolan.[/p][/quote]Writing style ? The greatest injustice was using Chris Brass as a untried 27 year old as a manager. As predicted by the LMA it was a disaster. Sacking manager after manager appears to be all that ever happens. The clubs judgement to appoint Colin Walker ? What was that all about. I couldnt care less about league football. When the club move it will die in its current form anyway.[/p][/quote]Do I hear the harsh rasp of an axe being ground?[/p][/quote]Why would that be ? All i was aluding to was sacking managers is the only thing club owners come up with. If McGill doesn't have the means or wherewithall, look for someone else who has. Why not a serious offer to the likes of Pearson. This Duffy fella appears to want to support my view the McGills got it wrong more than once, maybe they need a mirror. Moving to a new ground wont make any difference neutral observer 2
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3:52pm Mon 18 Feb 13

bill bailey says...

nearlyman wrote:
Bert brennan wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
I would ask the Pope before he finishes to come and read "THE LAST RIGHTS,". unless the manager and his lefthand men is shown the door, and replaced by, someone like Nick Barmby,
Gerry Francis,Des Bulpin.
Rites you bufoon !
I think you should stop throwing stones,
your greenhouse is in great danger, the word Buffoon has two FF's.
Apologies ! maybe time for a new keyboard.......hones

tly it did not register the second F ! mortified !!
It is just as well im not a buffoon after all, it would be better if people read the substance and and taken one task over that,
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bert brennan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: I would ask the Pope before he finishes to come and read "THE LAST RIGHTS,". unless the manager and his lefthand men is shown the door, and replaced by, someone like Nick Barmby, Gerry Francis,Des Bulpin.[/p][/quote]Rites you bufoon ![/p][/quote]I think you should stop throwing stones, your greenhouse is in great danger, the word Buffoon has two FF's.[/p][/quote]Apologies ! maybe time for a new keyboard.......hones tly it did not register the second F ! mortified !![/p][/quote]It is just as well im not a buffoon after all, it would be better if people read the substance and and taken one task over that, bill bailey
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2:55pm Fri 22 Feb 13

nlone1966 says...

Bring back Dave Beasant, that's what I say.
Bring back Dave Beasant, that's what I say. nlone1966
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