York City go down 4-0 at Wycombe Wanderers in npower League Two

YORK City conceded four goals for the second game in succession as they were beaten 4-0 at Wycombe Wanderers.

Home striker Dean Morgan netted two first-half penalties at Adams Park, the first on three minutes after a foul by City's Scott Kerr, and the second just before the break.

Joel Grant added a third goal on 59 minutes and the fourth came from Dave Winfield 12 minutes from time, while the visitors  - who lost 4-1 at home to Morecambe last weekend - struggled to carve out chances.

The defeat leaves City 18th in the npower League Two table, still eight points above the relegation zone.

Promotion-chasing Gillingham are the Minstermen's next opponents at Bootham Crescent on Tuesday.

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5:09pm Sat 9 Feb 13

legend7 says...

NO MORE EXCUSES SACK GARY MILLS NOW!!!!!!
NO MORE EXCUSES SACK GARY MILLS NOW!!!!!! legend7

5:13pm Sat 9 Feb 13

duffy says...

Buckle in its going to get bumpy. Can't see anything learnt from the opening day of the season frankly.
Buckle in its going to get bumpy. Can't see anything learnt from the opening day of the season frankly. duffy

5:15pm Sat 9 Feb 13

yorkonafork says...

212 comments my bet.
212 comments my bet. yorkonafork

5:17pm Sat 9 Feb 13

duffy says...

yorkonafork wrote:
212 comments my bet.
We should be beating that, because its now getting very real.
[quote][p][bold]yorkonafork[/bold] wrote: 212 comments my bet.[/p][/quote]We should be beating that, because its now getting very real. duffy

5:19pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Prob says...

So much for the football league. Back to the conference we go!
So much for the football league. Back to the conference we go! Prob

5:19pm Sat 9 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

He gets a few more games for me, but it's getting harder to defend him and the team when they concede 4 goals twice in a row. Sounded just terrible, even Barry Parker could barely think up something positive to say. It sounds like none of them have a shred of confidence, which I guess is why we pass it around the back so much at home - that attitude has just got to change, and very quickly. We need to focus on getting the ball down, then getting it forward, then getting a shot in (how can they play 90 minutes with 1 shot on target?!), not messing around with it in defense and then pumping it high in a panic. Thankfully the table is still very tight, so a couple of wins would lift us out of trouble - but hard to see where the wins will come from with such poor play in the last 2 games.

If Mills does end up leaving, he'll have been one of our best managers and we all owe him our sincerest gratitude - but hopefully he can turn around the very poor form of the last couple of games and get a few points on the board.
He gets a few more games for me, but it's getting harder to defend him and the team when they concede 4 goals twice in a row. Sounded just terrible, even Barry Parker could barely think up something positive to say. It sounds like none of them have a shred of confidence, which I guess is why we pass it around the back so much at home - that attitude has just got to change, and very quickly. We need to focus on getting the ball down, then getting it forward, then getting a shot in (how can they play 90 minutes with 1 shot on target?!), not messing around with it in defense and then pumping it high in a panic. Thankfully the table is still very tight, so a couple of wins would lift us out of trouble - but hard to see where the wins will come from with such poor play in the last 2 games. If Mills does end up leaving, he'll have been one of our best managers and we all owe him our sincerest gratitude - but hopefully he can turn around the very poor form of the last couple of games and get a few points on the board. YorkCityLuke

5:20pm Sat 9 Feb 13

nicko75 says...

Just leaving Adams park.. I have never posted on here with an overly negative tone as I think it could have the wrong effect on the players - until now. So, if you are one of the players and you are reading this, be in no doubt that you are square in the middle of a relegation battle. The qualities required (as well as skill) are fight, passion, commitment and determination. I have not witnessed a performance so lacking in the above for almost a decade. If you are one of the players who got us promoted last season remember the pride you felt in the shirt and what it felt like to be a winner. If you have arrived recently, get with the program and understand what is required of you to represent this football club. If you are Michael Ingham, do not sarcastically applaud the entire away end at half time - like a ****. And if you are Gary Mills... Recognise that it is now or never to change your one dimensional and inflexible approach and recognise that - whilst everybody thanks you for what you did last season - if you are unable to change the direction we are now going in, you will be sacked and rightly so. THAT was the definition of unacceptable.
Just leaving Adams park.. I have never posted on here with an overly negative tone as I think it could have the wrong effect on the players - until now. So, if you are one of the players and you are reading this, be in no doubt that you are square in the middle of a relegation battle. The qualities required (as well as skill) are fight, passion, commitment and determination. I have not witnessed a performance so lacking in the above for almost a decade. If you are one of the players who got us promoted last season remember the pride you felt in the shirt and what it felt like to be a winner. If you have arrived recently, get with the program and understand what is required of you to represent this football club. If you are Michael Ingham, do not sarcastically applaud the entire away end at half time - like a ****. And if you are Gary Mills... Recognise that it is now or never to change your one dimensional and inflexible approach and recognise that - whilst everybody thanks you for what you did last season - if you are unable to change the direction we are now going in, you will be sacked and rightly so. THAT was the definition of unacceptable. nicko75

5:21pm Sat 9 Feb 13

spockboy2 says...

Come on the Mcgills ,give us a comment on how this season is going.
How can it get worse without Mills.
Fans should put the sentiment of last season behind them now.

Blair and Walker are a joke.

Yes mills did great last season but he got paid for that ,yes he's a nice guy who loves the club with passion.
But he has lost the plot now and in a job that relies on good results he should be considered for dismissal in the next 6 games or so.
Sick of hearing excuses by BP and the tiresome Jones (who I watched play great football as a kid ) on the radio, we are poor now with no idea how to compete in this league, that's where it starts and ends .
Come on the Mcgills ,give us a comment on how this season is going. How can it get worse without Mills. Fans should put the sentiment of last season behind them now. Blair and Walker are a joke. Yes mills did great last season but he got paid for that ,yes he's a nice guy who loves the club with passion. But he has lost the plot now and in a job that relies on good results he should be considered for dismissal in the next 6 games or so. Sick of hearing excuses by BP and the tiresome Jones (who I watched play great football as a kid ) on the radio, we are poor now with no idea how to compete in this league, that's where it starts and ends . spockboy2

5:23pm Sat 9 Feb 13

yorkonafork says...

spockboy2 wrote:
Come on the Mcgills ,give us a comment on how this season is going.
How can it get worse without Mills.
Fans should put the sentiment of last season behind them now.

Blair and Walker are a joke.

Yes mills did great last season but he got paid for that ,yes he's a nice guy who loves the club with passion.
But he has lost the plot now and in a job that relies on good results he should be considered for dismissal in the next 6 games or so.
Sick of hearing excuses by BP and the tiresome Jones (who I watched play great football as a kid ) on the radio, we are poor now with no idea how to compete in this league, that's where it starts and ends .
What's Blair done!?

Swapped in and out of random positions at least he runs about and gives a toss each game which, given how rubbish we are at the moment, effort is the only thing we have left and he's one of two players who seemingly try.
[quote][p][bold]spockboy2[/bold] wrote: Come on the Mcgills ,give us a comment on how this season is going. How can it get worse without Mills. Fans should put the sentiment of last season behind them now. Blair and Walker are a joke. Yes mills did great last season but he got paid for that ,yes he's a nice guy who loves the club with passion. But he has lost the plot now and in a job that relies on good results he should be considered for dismissal in the next 6 games or so. Sick of hearing excuses by BP and the tiresome Jones (who I watched play great football as a kid ) on the radio, we are poor now with no idea how to compete in this league, that's where it starts and ends .[/p][/quote]What's Blair done!? Swapped in and out of random positions at least he runs about and gives a toss each game which, given how rubbish we are at the moment, effort is the only thing we have left and he's one of two players who seemingly try. yorkonafork

5:27pm Sat 9 Feb 13

AB- says...

Wait till Valentines day for the massacre to begin, one more defeat on Tuesday then its goodbye Mills and his merry men
Wait till Valentines day for the massacre to begin, one more defeat on Tuesday then its goodbye Mills and his merry men AB-

5:29pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Fat Harry says...

Another unacceptable result.

I hope the board has in mind a deadline for improvement to be apparent - let's not leave it too late this time.

A return to the Conference would see giving up on my club, I'm afraid.
Another unacceptable result. I hope the board has in mind a deadline for improvement to be apparent - let's not leave it too late this time. A return to the Conference would see giving up on my club, I'm afraid. Fat Harry

5:30pm Sat 9 Feb 13

nicko75 says...

Edit: unreserved apology to Ingham if that applause was genuine btw - but it looked pretty sarcastic to me...
Edit: unreserved apology to Ingham if that applause was genuine btw - but it looked pretty sarcastic to me... nicko75

5:32pm Sat 9 Feb 13

nigthepig says...

Horrendous. To all those who have said, keep the faith, you are wrong. If we do not change drastically we will be relegated. The chairman, if he hasn't already done so, must speak to the manager urgently and ask his plans. And we must have robust plans, we simply cannot carry on like this. Mills stubbornness, so long his strong point is quickly becoming his downfall. In Mills we used to trust!!!
Horrendous. To all those who have said, keep the faith, you are wrong. If we do not change drastically we will be relegated. The chairman, if he hasn't already done so, must speak to the manager urgently and ask his plans. And we must have robust plans, we simply cannot carry on like this. Mills stubbornness, so long his strong point is quickly becoming his downfall. In Mills we used to trust!!! nigthepig

5:37pm Sat 9 Feb 13

spockboy2 says...

nicko75 wrote:
Edit: unreserved apology to Ingham if that applause was genuine btw - but it looked pretty sarcastic to me...
You should get Mills to give you your money back after that game mate.

sorry to single Blair out in last post I am just frustrated like the rest of you.

At least Mills is commenting on radio, he could run and hide so I respect that.
His heart is in it no doubt about that ,just hope we can pull this round.
[quote][p][bold]nicko75[/bold] wrote: Edit: unreserved apology to Ingham if that applause was genuine btw - but it looked pretty sarcastic to me...[/p][/quote]You should get Mills to give you your money back after that game mate. sorry to single Blair out in last post I am just frustrated like the rest of you. At least Mills is commenting on radio, he could run and hide so I respect that. His heart is in it no doubt about that ,just hope we can pull this round. spockboy2

5:42pm Sat 9 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

spockboy2 wrote:
nicko75 wrote:
Edit: unreserved apology to Ingham if that applause was genuine btw - but it looked pretty sarcastic to me...
You should get Mills to give you your money back after that game mate.

sorry to single Blair out in last post I am just frustrated like the rest of you.

At least Mills is commenting on radio, he could run and hide so I respect that.
His heart is in it no doubt about that ,just hope we can pull this round.
What did he say? I missed the interview.
[quote][p][bold]spockboy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nicko75[/bold] wrote: Edit: unreserved apology to Ingham if that applause was genuine btw - but it looked pretty sarcastic to me...[/p][/quote]You should get Mills to give you your money back after that game mate. sorry to single Blair out in last post I am just frustrated like the rest of you. At least Mills is commenting on radio, he could run and hide so I respect that. His heart is in it no doubt about that ,just hope we can pull this round.[/p][/quote]What did he say? I missed the interview. YorkCityLuke

5:50pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Back and Beyond says...

Not been to the game, but this defeat is very hard to take when our away form has been the only real positive of this season. Have a feeling the two games/results this week could be the big decider of GM fate.
Not been to the game, but this defeat is very hard to take when our away form has been the only real positive of this season. Have a feeling the two games/results this week could be the big decider of GM fate. Back and Beyond

5:50pm Sat 9 Feb 13

duffy says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
spockboy2 wrote:
nicko75 wrote:
Edit: unreserved apology to Ingham if that applause was genuine btw - but it looked pretty sarcastic to me...
You should get Mills to give you your money back after that game mate.

sorry to single Blair out in last post I am just frustrated like the rest of you.

At least Mills is commenting on radio, he could run and hide so I respect that.
His heart is in it no doubt about that ,just hope we can pull this round.
What did he say? I missed the interview.
Not a lot of substance in all honesty.we are missing chances and giving away soft goals and he will turn it around but we must all stick together.
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spockboy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nicko75[/bold] wrote: Edit: unreserved apology to Ingham if that applause was genuine btw - but it looked pretty sarcastic to me...[/p][/quote]You should get Mills to give you your money back after that game mate. sorry to single Blair out in last post I am just frustrated like the rest of you. At least Mills is commenting on radio, he could run and hide so I respect that. His heart is in it no doubt about that ,just hope we can pull this round.[/p][/quote]What did he say? I missed the interview.[/p][/quote]Not a lot of substance in all honesty.we are missing chances and giving away soft goals and he will turn it around but we must all stick together. duffy

5:53pm Sat 9 Feb 13

bill bailey says...

With respect.there are experienced players out there today,they are in control when the whistle blows,if they havent got the inteligence to work out whats happening ,they are idiots,the manager may tell them to play a certain formation but if its not working the captain should have the moral fibre to
change it. if you let in 8 goals its not working at the back, and front,and on the bench.
With respect.there are experienced players out there today,they are in control when the whistle blows,if they havent got the inteligence to work out whats happening ,they are idiots,the manager may tell them to play a certain formation but if its not working the captain should have the moral fibre to change it. if you let in 8 goals its not working at the back, and front,and on the bench. bill bailey

5:55pm Sat 9 Feb 13

YO1 says...

That performance was impossible defend. It's starting to feel ominously like our last season in the football league. Hope the board have learned from last time and take necessary action if this doesn't improve within the next three games.

If I was Jason McGill I would already be considering possible replacements although I hope it doesn't come to that.
That performance was impossible defend. It's starting to feel ominously like our last season in the football league. Hope the board have learned from last time and take necessary action if this doesn't improve within the next three games. If I was Jason McGill I would already be considering possible replacements although I hope it doesn't come to that. YO1

5:57pm Sat 9 Feb 13

kirkbride1979 says...

If mills went then who would we get in ?????
If mills went then who would we get in ????? kirkbride1979

5:58pm Sat 9 Feb 13

skilly says...

Players need to take responsibility and roll their sleeves up. Wycombe are a form team and we have not suffered many heavy defeats. We will be in a battle with as many as 10 teams so come on get behind the team
Players need to take responsibility and roll their sleeves up. Wycombe are a form team and we have not suffered many heavy defeats. We will be in a battle with as many as 10 teams so come on get behind the team skilly

6:03pm Sat 9 Feb 13

PhilR@Strike says...

Went to the game today and have to say that Wycombe were lucky with the two penalties. Even their supporters didn't know why the second was given? But even so, they were a stronger and more physical team and the result was only ever going to go one way. Afraid half the team just are not up to this league. But isn't helped when the management insist on playing favourites players who really aren't up to it. By far the weakest player was Walker who disappeared for most of the game. Should not be playing IMO. Contributed nothing to the game at all and missed a sitter, when unmarked and an open goal! Half time McLaughlin who had a good first half was subbed instead of Walker. Why? Needed all out strong battlers left on the pitch?! Blair had a good game and showed lots if commitment and Rodman looked strong and committed up front when brought on. In fact all the subs, Rodman, Chambers and McDaid looked good and showed a lot more commitment. Buy pitty they weren't played till the game was lost?
Bottom line, we need to dump Walker and any in affective players (we know who they are) and play our strongest team from the start.
Might just give us a fighting chance in the future? Things will definitely have to change or well be rolled over by teams like Wycombe and Oxford next week.
Went to the game today and have to say that Wycombe were lucky with the two penalties. Even their supporters didn't know why the second was given? But even so, they were a stronger and more physical team and the result was only ever going to go one way. Afraid half the team just are not up to this league. But isn't helped when the management insist on playing favourites players who really aren't up to it. By far the weakest player was Walker who disappeared for most of the game. Should not be playing IMO. Contributed nothing to the game at all and missed a sitter, when unmarked and an open goal! Half time McLaughlin who had a good first half was subbed instead of Walker. Why? Needed all out strong battlers left on the pitch?! Blair had a good game and showed lots if commitment and Rodman looked strong and committed up front when brought on. In fact all the subs, Rodman, Chambers and McDaid looked good and showed a lot more commitment. Buy pitty they weren't played till the game was lost? Bottom line, we need to dump Walker and any in affective players (we know who they are) and play our strongest team from the start. Might just give us a fighting chance in the future? Things will definitely have to change or well be rolled over by teams like Wycombe and Oxford next week. PhilR@Strike

6:04pm Sat 9 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

skilly wrote:
Players need to take responsibility and roll their sleeves up. Wycombe are a form team and we have not suffered many heavy defeats. We will be in a battle with as many as 10 teams so come on get behind the team
Yeah to be fair, when you look at some of the 'big' names above us (Oxford, Rochdale, Bradford etc.) they're not more than a few points ahead. Even they must be looking over their shoulders at the drop, which is very strange considering 12th place should be a secure position at this stage in the season. That won't matter if we can't pick points up though, it's just got to improve both with the players and manager - starting on tuesday or we risk an uncomfortable last few games.
[quote][p][bold]skilly[/bold] wrote: Players need to take responsibility and roll their sleeves up. Wycombe are a form team and we have not suffered many heavy defeats. We will be in a battle with as many as 10 teams so come on get behind the team[/p][/quote]Yeah to be fair, when you look at some of the 'big' names above us (Oxford, Rochdale, Bradford etc.) they're not more than a few points ahead. Even they must be looking over their shoulders at the drop, which is very strange considering 12th place should be a secure position at this stage in the season. That won't matter if we can't pick points up though, it's just got to improve both with the players and manager - starting on tuesday or we risk an uncomfortable last few games. YorkCityLuke

6:05pm Sat 9 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

Mils has to be sacked now...we can't put up with this anymore..its become a bad joke now..things need to change now.
Mils has to be sacked now...we can't put up with this anymore..its become a bad joke now..things need to change now. redbluelion

6:05pm Sat 9 Feb 13

joejamestom says...

legend7 wrote:
NO MORE EXCUSES SACK GARY MILLS NOW!!!!!!
HERE HERE.
& while you're at it Chris Smith for Player manager or when the going gets tough what do you do?
In your case blame a perfectly decent manager, we need to take a long hard look at why a team whose defence could have been regarded as completely solid is leaking goals to teams who are not setting the world on fire. Given that we are not scoring freely as we did at times last season then we must shut up shop.
Who were the CB pairing?
Cmon City!!! I am a bit worried that we are not trying 100%.
[quote][p][bold]legend7[/bold] wrote: NO MORE EXCUSES SACK GARY MILLS NOW!!!!!![/p][/quote]HERE HERE. & while you're at it Chris Smith for Player manager or when the going gets tough what do you do? In your case blame a perfectly decent manager, we need to take a long hard look at why a team whose defence could have been regarded as completely solid is leaking goals to teams who are not setting the world on fire. Given that we are not scoring freely as we did at times last season then we must shut up shop. Who were the CB pairing? Cmon City!!! I am a bit worried that we are not trying 100%. joejamestom

6:08pm Sat 9 Feb 13

neutral observer 2 says...

kirkbride1979 wrote:
If mills went then who would we get in ?????
Some halfbaked measure and repeat the process again and again until the money runs out.
[quote][p][bold]kirkbride1979[/bold] wrote: If mills went then who would we get in ?????[/p][/quote]Some halfbaked measure and repeat the process again and again until the money runs out. neutral observer 2

6:11pm Sat 9 Feb 13

duffy says...

kirkbride1979 wrote:
If mills went then who would we get in ?????
You can't actually use that arguement though, look at what Ward had done at Bristol Rovers. It's not about who we get in its about who would apply and getting the right person. People pull names out of hats but Ward was an unknown and Smith had no experience. There will come a point where if it continues to go backwards they will need to make a decision because I don't think the club will survive another relegation to the conference, I just don't see the McGills having the heart to carry on keeping the club afloat should that happen knowing we will never have the budget again to get back out. I'm pretty sure we will get a tonking again on Tuesday which will make next Saturdays game against Barnet massive. We lose that and a decision needs to be made.
[quote][p][bold]kirkbride1979[/bold] wrote: If mills went then who would we get in ?????[/p][/quote]You can't actually use that arguement though, look at what Ward had done at Bristol Rovers. It's not about who we get in its about who would apply and getting the right person. People pull names out of hats but Ward was an unknown and Smith had no experience. There will come a point where if it continues to go backwards they will need to make a decision because I don't think the club will survive another relegation to the conference, I just don't see the McGills having the heart to carry on keeping the club afloat should that happen knowing we will never have the budget again to get back out. I'm pretty sure we will get a tonking again on Tuesday which will make next Saturdays game against Barnet massive. We lose that and a decision needs to be made. duffy

6:14pm Sat 9 Feb 13

garnham says...

Home fans need to take responsibility & support the team & club just like we did in May & as far back as administration.
The home support then was definitely behind the team.

That is the message from this old fan to you all, that has got to be the way for all the remaining home games..

No shirking, no arguments, take it all on the chin. I will not except fans who want away all when all goes tits up

Man up & support the lads through this testing time
Home fans need to take responsibility & support the team & club just like we did in May & as far back as administration. The home support then was definitely behind the team. That is the message from this old fan to you all, that has got to be the way for all the remaining home games.. No shirking, no arguments, take it all on the chin. I will not except fans who want away all when all goes tits up Man up & support the lads through this testing time garnham

6:18pm Sat 9 Feb 13

PositiveFootball says...

kirkbride1979 wrote:
If mills went then who would we get in ?????
Toss up between José Mourinho or Tito Vilanova.
[quote][p][bold]kirkbride1979[/bold] wrote: If mills went then who would we get in ?????[/p][/quote]Toss up between José Mourinho or Tito Vilanova. PositiveFootball

6:24pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Bert brennan says...

To the York City players I have to say,
"What are you going to do in the next few games to justify your claim to be
Professional Footballers". Let us see
pride and determination from you.
To the York City players I have to say, "What are you going to do in the next few games to justify your claim to be Professional Footballers". Let us see pride and determination from you. Bert brennan

6:26pm Sat 9 Feb 13

openallhours says...

Any York fan without brain damage could have told you that this was coming. The signs have been there for a long time and the next 2 games are must wins. Too many draws with no wins = trouble. Well done to John Ward for the job he's doing at Bristol Rovers (who were bottom when we beat them) and I hope that the 'Gary Clappers' stay away from this forum as they're an embarrassment to York City.
Any York fan without brain damage could have told you that this was coming. The signs have been there for a long time and the next 2 games are must wins. Too many draws with no wins = trouble. Well done to John Ward for the job he's doing at Bristol Rovers (who were bottom when we beat them) and I hope that the 'Gary Clappers' stay away from this forum as they're an embarrassment to York City. openallhours

6:29pm Sat 9 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

openallhours wrote:
Any York fan without brain damage could have told you that this was coming. The signs have been there for a long time and the next 2 games are must wins. Too many draws with no wins = trouble. Well done to John Ward for the job he's doing at Bristol Rovers (who were bottom when we beat them) and I hope that the 'Gary Clappers' stay away from this forum as they're an embarrassment to York City.
Supporters are supposed to support the team - that includes the manager. We embarrass ourselves by the constant negativity which seems to have rubbed off on the players. If Mills has to go, he'll leave with the thanks of every right-minded City fan.
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Any York fan without brain damage could have told you that this was coming. The signs have been there for a long time and the next 2 games are must wins. Too many draws with no wins = trouble. Well done to John Ward for the job he's doing at Bristol Rovers (who were bottom when we beat them) and I hope that the 'Gary Clappers' stay away from this forum as they're an embarrassment to York City.[/p][/quote]Supporters are supposed to support the team - that includes the manager. We embarrass ourselves by the constant negativity which seems to have rubbed off on the players. If Mills has to go, he'll leave with the thanks of every right-minded City fan. YorkCityLuke

6:46pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Badger43 says...

I often feel that as a set of supporters we do not always get behind the lads and can be over critical at times. But today we were awful, unorganised, too light weight and deserve most of the posts on here.
Again the Board have backed Mills with higher league loan players only to let in 8 in 2 games. Obeng is too small and light weight for this league, and I would have McGurk any day over O'Connell, although I appreciate he was injured today.
Kerr was a total disgrace, Walker can not play the lone striker and his miss showed he had no confidence.
It about time Mills stopped shuffling the chairs on the Titanic.
Also why do we seem to sign players until 6ft, we should have signed a big centre forward in the transfer window we sign Mcdaid a 5ft 3 and play him in midfield
Luckily Chambers is back, and hopefully TY not be out long, but Mills has got to be starting to look in the job pages.
I often feel that as a set of supporters we do not always get behind the lads and can be over critical at times. But today we were awful, unorganised, too light weight and deserve most of the posts on here. Again the Board have backed Mills with higher league loan players only to let in 8 in 2 games. Obeng is too small and light weight for this league, and I would have McGurk any day over O'Connell, although I appreciate he was injured today. Kerr was a total disgrace, Walker can not play the lone striker and his miss showed he had no confidence. It about time Mills stopped shuffling the chairs on the Titanic. Also why do we seem to sign players until 6ft, we should have signed a big centre forward in the transfer window we sign Mcdaid a 5ft 3 and play him in midfield Luckily Chambers is back, and hopefully TY not be out long, but Mills has got to be starting to look in the job pages. Badger43

7:02pm Sat 9 Feb 13

YO1 says...

openallhours wrote:
Any York fan without brain damage could have told you that this was coming. The signs have been there for a long time and the next 2 games are must wins. Too many draws with no wins = trouble. Well done to John Ward for the job he's doing at Bristol Rovers (who were bottom when we beat them) and I hope that the 'Gary Clappers' stay away from this forum as they're an embarrassment to York City.
So York fans who support the team by clapping are an embarrassment? Are you suggesting we stand on the terrace and jeer the team on Tuesday? Can you explain how that would improve their performance?

I'll keep on supporting the team, you keep booing pal. Well done!
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Any York fan without brain damage could have told you that this was coming. The signs have been there for a long time and the next 2 games are must wins. Too many draws with no wins = trouble. Well done to John Ward for the job he's doing at Bristol Rovers (who were bottom when we beat them) and I hope that the 'Gary Clappers' stay away from this forum as they're an embarrassment to York City.[/p][/quote]So York fans who support the team by clapping are an embarrassment? Are you suggesting we stand on the terrace and jeer the team on Tuesday? Can you explain how that would improve their performance? I'll keep on supporting the team, you keep booing pal. Well done! YO1

7:07pm Sat 9 Feb 13

legend7 says...

kirkbride1979 wrote:
If mills went then who would we get in ?????
personally id like to see andy mcmillan or steve coppell to come in
[quote][p][bold]kirkbride1979[/bold] wrote: If mills went then who would we get in ?????[/p][/quote]personally id like to see andy mcmillan or steve coppell to come in legend7

7:13pm Sat 9 Feb 13

duffy says...

legend7 wrote:
kirkbride1979 wrote:
If mills went then who would we get in ?????
personally id like to see andy mcmillan or steve coppell to come in
If it happens someone with lower league experience. I still hope Mills turns things around but he has to start learning and realise its not working with this formation and a team of lightweights.
[quote][p][bold]legend7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kirkbride1979[/bold] wrote: If mills went then who would we get in ?????[/p][/quote]personally id like to see andy mcmillan or steve coppell to come in[/p][/quote]If it happens someone with lower league experience. I still hope Mills turns things around but he has to start learning and realise its not working with this formation and a team of lightweights. duffy

7:26pm Sat 9 Feb 13

york city fc says...

Some truly awful play today- not going to mention any names as most of the team were looking incapable- somehow people need to calm down and cut down on the moaning- even the players are having a go at each other-there are quite a few other teams at the bottom who also can't win any games. Yes it's not working at the moment but things can change- on a positive note thought Rodman played with confidence but it was all too late by then
Some truly awful play today- not going to mention any names as most of the team were looking incapable- somehow people need to calm down and cut down on the moaning- even the players are having a go at each other-there are quite a few other teams at the bottom who also can't win any games. Yes it's not working at the moment but things can change- on a positive note thought Rodman played with confidence but it was all too late by then york city fc

7:54pm Sat 9 Feb 13

fishboy says...

What a pile of **** today, gary's system has failed again, walker can only score when we win a penalty, and that is very rare. Are they scared to shoot, sounded like a very poor performance, I thought we hit rock bottom last week against morecambe, but the same **** happens this week except we didn't score. Change the formation, or the manager before it's too late???? wembley's memories are fading fast.
What a pile of **** today, gary's system has failed again, walker can only score when we win a penalty, and that is very rare. Are they scared to shoot, sounded like a very poor performance, I thought we hit rock bottom last week against morecambe, but the same **** happens this week except we didn't score. Change the formation, or the manager before it's too late???? wembley's memories are fading fast. fishboy

8:01pm Sat 9 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

After watching Wycombe beat Gillingham on TV, to be perfectly honest I expected this type of result today. But deep down my heart was hoping that City could get a point at least. Its a really desperate situation now, and I seriously wonder if we have the players to put it right. The Manager can not make wholesale changes, because we have nobody better to bring in. I dont like to criticise Gary Mills after what he has achieved, but sadly he has been very naive with his preparation for our return to the Football League.
After watching Wycombe beat Gillingham on TV, to be perfectly honest I expected this type of result today. But deep down my heart was hoping that City could get a point at least. Its a really desperate situation now, and I seriously wonder if we have the players to put it right. The Manager can not make wholesale changes, because we have nobody better to bring in. I dont like to criticise Gary Mills after what he has achieved, but sadly he has been very naive with his preparation for our return to the Football League. OLD - HEAD

8:17pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Dortmun says...

"York City not opting for safety-first policy"
Great headline from the city management in the press yesterday and true to their word we did not today. Thus we got stuffed.
But now it is time to revert to 442, shore things up to steady the ship and get some confidence back into the players and then go back to the beloved 433??
433 is great to watch when it is working, but as it obviously is not, PLAN B should come in.
"York City not opting for safety-first policy" Great headline from the city management in the press yesterday and true to their word we did not today. Thus we got stuffed. But now it is time to revert to 442, shore things up to steady the ship and get some confidence back into the players and then go back to the beloved 433?? 433 is great to watch when it is working, but as it obviously is not, PLAN B should come in. Dortmun

8:22pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Peppa07 says...

What's going on here? Those who want to sack GM obviously haven't a clue. There's no cash to pay him off even if it were the right thing to do - which it isn't. And who would come in for no wages (i.e once GM gets his compensation there's zero cash left)? Andy McMillan has zero experience and Steve Coppel is almost as absurd a suggestion as the joke notion of Jose Morinho suggested earlier. We need to get real...support GM and the team and get a few wins. They won't come without support so cut the negativity...the win probably won't come Tuesday but a good performance would help, and a win over Barnet will greatly improve the situation. Support the team. If you're planning on booing on Tuesday, stay at home! Four more points this time next week and we'll all calm down!!
What's going on here? Those who want to sack GM obviously haven't a clue. There's no cash to pay him off even if it were the right thing to do - which it isn't. And who would come in for no wages (i.e once GM gets his compensation there's zero cash left)? Andy McMillan has zero experience and Steve Coppel is almost as absurd a suggestion as the joke notion of Jose Morinho suggested earlier. We need to get real...support GM and the team and get a few wins. They won't come without support so cut the negativity...the win probably won't come Tuesday but a good performance would help, and a win over Barnet will greatly improve the situation. Support the team. If you're planning on booing on Tuesday, stay at home! Four more points this time next week and we'll all calm down!! Peppa07

8:23pm Sat 9 Feb 13

rupertbehr says...

Bradford 0 : Gillingham1
........Well boys the time is the is Nigh !!
With a six pointer with Barnet to come on Saturday,Tuesday's result is crucial...... Do it for the fans, Do it for the boss, Do it for your own pride.....Just DO IT !!!
Bradford 0 : Gillingham1 ........Well boys the time is the is Nigh !! With a six pointer with Barnet to come on Saturday,Tuesday's result is crucial...... Do it for the fans, Do it for the boss, Do it for your own pride.....Just DO IT !!! rupertbehr

8:40pm Sat 9 Feb 13

york city fc says...

It wasn't that long ago they beat Burton 3-0 but there wasn't so much reaction to that. They played well against Gillingham two weeks ago so is it fair to say all is not lost. Sadly the moaners are well and truly out in force now which isn't going to help.
It wasn't that long ago they beat Burton 3-0 but there wasn't so much reaction to that. They played well against Gillingham two weeks ago so is it fair to say all is not lost. Sadly the moaners are well and truly out in force now which isn't going to help. york city fc

8:46pm Sat 9 Feb 13

legend7 says...

Peppa07 wrote:
What's going on here? Those who want to sack GM obviously haven't a clue. There's no cash to pay him off even if it were the right thing to do - which it isn't. And who would come in for no wages (i.e once GM gets his compensation there's zero cash left)? Andy McMillan has zero experience and Steve Coppel is almost as absurd a suggestion as the joke notion of Jose Morinho suggested earlier. We need to get real...support GM and the team and get a few wins. They won't come without support so cut the negativity...the win probably won't come Tuesday but a good performance would help, and a win over Barnet will greatly improve the situation. Support the team. If you're planning on booing on Tuesday, stay at home! Four more points this time next week and we'll all calm down!!
you need to get real and look at the situation. at the beginning of the season gary mills stated he wanted to challenge for promotion, and we were in the play offs for a while. now his stubborness and refusal to sign better than poor quality players has dragged us into a relegation battle. WE HAD MORE POINTS AFTER THIS NUMBER OF GAMES IN 2004.

read this and you will see how poor gary mills is.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/21
372441
only 1 manager in england has a worse record than mills this season after playing the same number of games. his time is up!!!
[quote][p][bold]Peppa07[/bold] wrote: What's going on here? Those who want to sack GM obviously haven't a clue. There's no cash to pay him off even if it were the right thing to do - which it isn't. And who would come in for no wages (i.e once GM gets his compensation there's zero cash left)? Andy McMillan has zero experience and Steve Coppel is almost as absurd a suggestion as the joke notion of Jose Morinho suggested earlier. We need to get real...support GM and the team and get a few wins. They won't come without support so cut the negativity...the win probably won't come Tuesday but a good performance would help, and a win over Barnet will greatly improve the situation. Support the team. If you're planning on booing on Tuesday, stay at home! Four more points this time next week and we'll all calm down!![/p][/quote]you need to get real and look at the situation. at the beginning of the season gary mills stated he wanted to challenge for promotion, and we were in the play offs for a while. now his stubborness and refusal to sign better than poor quality players has dragged us into a relegation battle. WE HAD MORE POINTS AFTER THIS NUMBER OF GAMES IN 2004. read this and you will see how poor gary mills is. http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/21 372441 only 1 manager in england has a worse record than mills this season after playing the same number of games. his time is up!!! legend7

8:59pm Sat 9 Feb 13

carterjason says...

Losing patience with mills.
1, meredith big losss no one has yet filled his boots.
2, very poor signings in pre season and as for january none have improved what was already here.
3, why keep bringing in loan players that don't give a hoot about the club because they only here short term.
4, we need to get physical lack of strength and size throughout the team.
5, if you see tactics are not working then do something about it!

Next bosss, john sheridan.
Losing patience with mills. 1, meredith big losss no one has yet filled his boots. 2, very poor signings in pre season and as for january none have improved what was already here. 3, why keep bringing in loan players that don't give a hoot about the club because they only here short term. 4, we need to get physical lack of strength and size throughout the team. 5, if you see tactics are not working then do something about it! Next bosss, john sheridan. carterjason

9:02pm Sat 9 Feb 13

fishboy says...

Confuse Gillingham on tuesday night by playing 442 and putting walker on the bench, Blair can only score when walker is not on the pitch? big games next week
gary needs to get his cv sorted if we loose both of them, he needs to walk as we can not afford the pay off.
Confuse Gillingham on tuesday night by playing 442 and putting walker on the bench, Blair can only score when walker is not on the pitch? big games next week gary needs to get his cv sorted if we loose both of them, he needs to walk as we can not afford the pay off. fishboy

9:07pm Sat 9 Feb 13

missionfromarry says...

Talk of sacking Mills is frankly ridiculous. This season is all about finishing above the relegation positions and staying in the league. We will do that. Mills is the man to steer the club to greater things. Those that harp on about John Ward, he actually took the club backwards when he took over then to success. Some parallels here I think, get through this season then judge at the end of next. Get behind the club and get realistic.
Talk of sacking Mills is frankly ridiculous. This season is all about finishing above the relegation positions and staying in the league. We will do that. Mills is the man to steer the club to greater things. Those that harp on about John Ward, he actually took the club backwards when he took over then to success. Some parallels here I think, get through this season then judge at the end of next. Get behind the club and get realistic. missionfromarry

9:20pm Sat 9 Feb 13

johnboy2882 says...

we need 52 points to be safe 4 wins 3 draws from 15 games is do able get behind the team instead off slagging them off it is time to drop walker give mcdaid a go what has happend to everson
we need 52 points to be safe 4 wins 3 draws from 15 games is do able get behind the team instead off slagging them off it is time to drop walker give mcdaid a go what has happend to everson johnboy2882

9:30pm Sat 9 Feb 13

duffy says...

missionfromarry wrote:
Talk of sacking Mills is frankly ridiculous. This season is all about finishing above the relegation positions and staying in the league. We will do that. Mills is the man to steer the club to greater things. Those that harp on about John Ward, he actually took the club backwards when he took over then to success. Some parallels here I think, get through this season then judge at the end of next. Get behind the club and get realistic.
Ward came to a struggling team after the Bird era and while its true he struggled at first that's where the similarities end between the two men for me. Ward knew what was needed and targeted the likes of Barnes while Mills has more of a scatter gun aproach signing numerous players. Ward also played a more rigid formation playing players in their dedicated positions rather than asking players to adapt and be more flexible.
[quote][p][bold]missionfromarry[/bold] wrote: Talk of sacking Mills is frankly ridiculous. This season is all about finishing above the relegation positions and staying in the league. We will do that. Mills is the man to steer the club to greater things. Those that harp on about John Ward, he actually took the club backwards when he took over then to success. Some parallels here I think, get through this season then judge at the end of next. Get behind the club and get realistic.[/p][/quote]Ward came to a struggling team after the Bird era and while its true he struggled at first that's where the similarities end between the two men for me. Ward knew what was needed and targeted the likes of Barnes while Mills has more of a scatter gun aproach signing numerous players. Ward also played a more rigid formation playing players in their dedicated positions rather than asking players to adapt and be more flexible. duffy

9:31pm Sat 9 Feb 13

PhilTopping says...

Staying in Birmingham tonight. Awful game.

I knew we were going to lose when I saw the team sheet. It was the team selection from a man with no confidence. We were set up for a 0-0 and that's bl00dy annoying because we couldn't manage 2 minutes without conceding.

Everything was wrong today. Not a single player put in a good shift. The formation was a joke, there was absolutely no desire from any player, no hunger, no fight. I've got to be honest, it looked like the team had lost faith with Mills.

I've seen this many times before at City. Teams that simply lose interest. Mills insistence in playing a passing game when the players are bereft of any confidence, is madness. His substitutions were awful. We ended up with not a single midfielder on the pitch and still trying to play through midfield. Walker was my "worst man of the match" for simply being unable to control, pass or kick the ball properly.

I've spent the best part of £100 on this trip and it's been an absolute waste. I dread Tuesday, I wouldn't know where to start to fix that mess.

I'm not calling for Mills head yet, but I'm bl00dy close.
Staying in Birmingham tonight. Awful game. I knew we were going to lose when I saw the team sheet. It was the team selection from a man with no confidence. We were set up for a 0-0 and that's bl00dy annoying because we couldn't manage 2 minutes without conceding. Everything was wrong today. Not a single player put in a good shift. The formation was a joke, there was absolutely no desire from any player, no hunger, no fight. I've got to be honest, it looked like the team had lost faith with Mills. I've seen this many times before at City. Teams that simply lose interest. Mills insistence in playing a passing game when the players are bereft of any confidence, is madness. His substitutions were awful. We ended up with not a single midfielder on the pitch and still trying to play through midfield. Walker was my "worst man of the match" for simply being unable to control, pass or kick the ball properly. I've spent the best part of £100 on this trip and it's been an absolute waste. I dread Tuesday, I wouldn't know where to start to fix that mess. I'm not calling for Mills head yet, but I'm bl00dy close. PhilTopping

9:31pm Sat 9 Feb 13

beckylaner says...

Gary Mills is out of his depth and City are heading back to the Conference. Embarrassing to watch them today. Difficult to see how a change in manager will help at this stage, unless the new man has a sound strategy for survival. Where do we find him?
GM's had his day and he's a spent force now. As I said before the season started, he might have been the manager to get us out of the Conference, but we need different skills to enable the side to develop.
If we're lucky, we'll stay up - if so, let's not make the same mistakes next season.
Gary Mills is out of his depth and City are heading back to the Conference. Embarrassing to watch them today. Difficult to see how a change in manager will help at this stage, unless the new man has a sound strategy for survival. Where do we find him? GM's had his day and he's a spent force now. As I said before the season started, he might have been the manager to get us out of the Conference, but we need different skills to enable the side to develop. If we're lucky, we'll stay up - if so, let's not make the same mistakes next season. beckylaner

9:35pm Sat 9 Feb 13

arsene.about.york says...

missionfromarry wrote:
Talk of sacking Mills is frankly ridiculous. This season is all about finishing above the relegation positions and staying in the league. We will do that. Mills is the man to steer the club to greater things. Those that harp on about John Ward, he actually took the club backwards when he took over then to success. Some parallels here I think, get through this season then judge at the end of next. Get behind the club and get realistic.
Judge Mills at the end of next season ? Are you having a laugh or are you on a mission from Mars ? If we leave Mills in charge until next season York City will be as extinct as a Dodo.
[quote][p][bold]missionfromarry[/bold] wrote: Talk of sacking Mills is frankly ridiculous. This season is all about finishing above the relegation positions and staying in the league. We will do that. Mills is the man to steer the club to greater things. Those that harp on about John Ward, he actually took the club backwards when he took over then to success. Some parallels here I think, get through this season then judge at the end of next. Get behind the club and get realistic.[/p][/quote]Judge Mills at the end of next season ? Are you having a laugh or are you on a mission from Mars ? If we leave Mills in charge until next season York City will be as extinct as a Dodo. arsene.about.york

10:58pm Sat 9 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

missionfromarry wrote:
Talk of sacking Mills is frankly ridiculous. This season is all about finishing above the relegation positions and staying in the league. We will do that. Mills is the man to steer the club to greater things. Those that harp on about John Ward, he actually took the club backwards when he took over then to success. Some parallels here I think, get through this season then judge at the end of next. Get behind the club and get realistic.
Ok then tell me this mr no it all..what if we finish in the bottom two..what then it will be the end of york city football club..
[quote][p][bold]missionfromarry[/bold] wrote: Talk of sacking Mills is frankly ridiculous. This season is all about finishing above the relegation positions and staying in the league. We will do that. Mills is the man to steer the club to greater things. Those that harp on about John Ward, he actually took the club backwards when he took over then to success. Some parallels here I think, get through this season then judge at the end of next. Get behind the club and get realistic.[/p][/quote]Ok then tell me this mr no it all..what if we finish in the bottom two..what then it will be the end of york city football club.. redbluelion

11:07pm Sat 9 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

whats dennis smith upto now..is he on the phone give him a call.
whats dennis smith upto now..is he on the phone give him a call. redbluelion

11:10pm Sat 9 Feb 13

erniet says...

I said earlier in the week I might need to be prevented from throwing myself off a bridge if Wycombe had one due to the very negative tone on here. Ok I went today and maybe I should have looked for that bridge! I am really worried like all of you. I see very few games so can't make a top judgement but my feelings about today are that we are much less physically able to compete than I saw earlier in the season. Confidence is obviously low, but worse than that is that too many players are too slow in possession and bundled off the ball too easily. Walker's problems are the formation. I think 442 is now essential as the current style will not produce any goals. I thought that two players who seem normally ok had particular disasters today - Fyfield who was monstered by their excellent wide player Grant, and Kerr who made the error for the first pen and never recovered. I thought both pens were correct, although the second one was the sort that doesn't always get given. All that said, Wycombe were impressive and I suggest will get to the play-offs with their pace and strength.
You folks who live around York must support them though. They were a dispirited lot at the end and negativity won't do any good. Let's just all grit our teeth and hope this is a bad dip(?)
I said earlier in the week I might need to be prevented from throwing myself off a bridge if Wycombe had one due to the very negative tone on here. Ok I went today and maybe I should have looked for that bridge! I am really worried like all of you. I see very few games so can't make a top judgement but my feelings about today are that we are much less physically able to compete than I saw earlier in the season. Confidence is obviously low, but worse than that is that too many players are too slow in possession and bundled off the ball too easily. Walker's problems are the formation. I think 442 is now essential as the current style will not produce any goals. I thought that two players who seem normally ok had particular disasters today - Fyfield who was monstered by their excellent wide player Grant, and Kerr who made the error for the first pen and never recovered. I thought both pens were correct, although the second one was the sort that doesn't always get given. All that said, Wycombe were impressive and I suggest will get to the play-offs with their pace and strength. You folks who live around York must support them though. They were a dispirited lot at the end and negativity won't do any good. Let's just all grit our teeth and hope this is a bad dip(?) erniet

11:14pm Sat 9 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

We should rename this team..Titanic city because we are sinking just as quick..
We should rename this team..Titanic city because we are sinking just as quick.. redbluelion

11:43pm Sat 9 Feb 13

openallhours says...

redbluelion wrote:
whats dennis smith upto now..is he on the phone give him a call.
Good call... Mills is a legend in his own mind where as Dennis is the real deal. It beggars belief that some of the idiots posting on here can't understand why Mills is getting stick! Mills should have appointed a coach with league experience instead of being assisted by Lyttle & Large. I've never booed a York team and my support will always be there regardless of how we're playing. But I will not tolerate a poor manager picking poor sides achieving poor results.
[quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: whats dennis smith upto now..is he on the phone give him a call.[/p][/quote]Good call... Mills is a legend in his own mind where as Dennis is the real deal. It beggars belief that some of the idiots posting on here can't understand why Mills is getting stick! Mills should have appointed a coach with league experience instead of being assisted by Lyttle & Large. I've never booed a York team and my support will always be there regardless of how we're playing. But I will not tolerate a poor manager picking poor sides achieving poor results. openallhours

11:58pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Tug job says...

legend7 wrote:
Peppa07 wrote:
What's going on here? Those who want to sack GM obviously haven't a clue. There's no cash to pay him off even if it were the right thing to do - which it isn't. And who would come in for no wages (i.e once GM gets his compensation there's zero cash left)? Andy McMillan has zero experience and Steve Coppel is almost as absurd a suggestion as the joke notion of Jose Morinho suggested earlier. We need to get real...support GM and the team and get a few wins. They won't come without support so cut the negativity...the win probably won't come Tuesday but a good performance would help, and a win over Barnet will greatly improve the situation. Support the team. If you're planning on booing on Tuesday, stay at home! Four more points this time next week and we'll all calm down!!
you need to get real and look at the situation. at the beginning of the season gary mills stated he wanted to challenge for promotion, and we were in the play offs for a while. now his stubborness and refusal to sign better than poor quality players has dragged us into a relegation battle. WE HAD MORE POINTS AFTER THIS NUMBER OF GAMES IN 2004.

read this and you will see how poor gary mills is.
http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/21

372441
only 1 manager in england has a worse record than mills this season after playing the same number of games. his time is up!!!
Do you really believe that the manager would have "refused" to sign better players had he been able to do so? Do you think it might be possible that the club is unable to compete financially with other clubs? Do you think the club has unlimited funds available? I would be very interested to hear your answers to these questions. That said, today's performance was very poor and Fyfield and Walker, in particular, need to take a good look at themselves. I can accept Wycombe were a far better team and fully deserved their victory. What was hard to stomach was the apparent lack of interest and lack of fight shown by the team. At least the subs look interested when they came on - Rodman looked as though he was intent in saving the game single-handedly! I still believe the manager will turn things around and keep us up, but there will need to be some radical rebuilding in the summer. At least half of this squad are not up to football league standard. They've been given the benefit of the doubt, so far, but today has dispelled all doubt: Smith, Fyfield, Potts, Blair and McLaughlin will have to go. Doig will, too, even though he's injured. Ingham, Walker and Kerr need to redeem themselves. Fair play to Wycombe but shame on today's team, irrespective of whether or not thery've been suffering from a virus - they should at least have shown pride and respect for the 300+ of us who travelled to support them.
[quote][p][bold]legend7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peppa07[/bold] wrote: What's going on here? Those who want to sack GM obviously haven't a clue. There's no cash to pay him off even if it were the right thing to do - which it isn't. And who would come in for no wages (i.e once GM gets his compensation there's zero cash left)? Andy McMillan has zero experience and Steve Coppel is almost as absurd a suggestion as the joke notion of Jose Morinho suggested earlier. We need to get real...support GM and the team and get a few wins. They won't come without support so cut the negativity...the win probably won't come Tuesday but a good performance would help, and a win over Barnet will greatly improve the situation. Support the team. If you're planning on booing on Tuesday, stay at home! Four more points this time next week and we'll all calm down!![/p][/quote]you need to get real and look at the situation. at the beginning of the season gary mills stated he wanted to challenge for promotion, and we were in the play offs for a while. now his stubborness and refusal to sign better than poor quality players has dragged us into a relegation battle. WE HAD MORE POINTS AFTER THIS NUMBER OF GAMES IN 2004. read this and you will see how poor gary mills is. http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/21 372441 only 1 manager in england has a worse record than mills this season after playing the same number of games. his time is up!!![/p][/quote]Do you really believe that the manager would have "refused" to sign better players had he been able to do so? Do you think it might be possible that the club is unable to compete financially with other clubs? Do you think the club has unlimited funds available? I would be very interested to hear your answers to these questions. That said, today's performance was very poor and Fyfield and Walker, in particular, need to take a good look at themselves. I can accept Wycombe were a far better team and fully deserved their victory. What was hard to stomach was the apparent lack of interest and lack of fight shown by the team. At least the subs look interested when they came on - Rodman looked as though he was intent in saving the game single-handedly! I still believe the manager will turn things around and keep us up, but there will need to be some radical rebuilding in the summer. At least half of this squad are not up to football league standard. They've been given the benefit of the doubt, so far, but today has dispelled all doubt: Smith, Fyfield, Potts, Blair and McLaughlin will have to go. Doig will, too, even though he's injured. Ingham, Walker and Kerr need to redeem themselves. Fair play to Wycombe but shame on today's team, irrespective of whether or not thery've been suffering from a virus - they should at least have shown pride and respect for the 300+ of us who travelled to support them. Tug job

12:00am Sun 10 Feb 13

Tug job says...

duffy wrote:
missionfromarry wrote:
Talk of sacking Mills is frankly ridiculous. This season is all about finishing above the relegation positions and staying in the league. We will do that. Mills is the man to steer the club to greater things. Those that harp on about John Ward, he actually took the club backwards when he took over then to success. Some parallels here I think, get through this season then judge at the end of next. Get behind the club and get realistic.
Ward came to a struggling team after the Bird era and while its true he struggled at first that's where the similarities end between the two men for me. Ward knew what was needed and targeted the likes of Barnes while Mills has more of a scatter gun aproach signing numerous players. Ward also played a more rigid formation playing players in their dedicated positions rather than asking players to adapt and be more flexible.
John Ward added Paul Barnes to John !ird's team and got the best of them. Half the current squad is not up the FL standard.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]missionfromarry[/bold] wrote: Talk of sacking Mills is frankly ridiculous. This season is all about finishing above the relegation positions and staying in the league. We will do that. Mills is the man to steer the club to greater things. Those that harp on about John Ward, he actually took the club backwards when he took over then to success. Some parallels here I think, get through this season then judge at the end of next. Get behind the club and get realistic.[/p][/quote]Ward came to a struggling team after the Bird era and while its true he struggled at first that's where the similarities end between the two men for me. Ward knew what was needed and targeted the likes of Barnes while Mills has more of a scatter gun aproach signing numerous players. Ward also played a more rigid formation playing players in their dedicated positions rather than asking players to adapt and be more flexible.[/p][/quote]John Ward added Paul Barnes to John !ird's team and got the best of them. Half the current squad is not up the FL standard. Tug job

12:07am Sun 10 Feb 13

haxbyreds says...

Massive two games coming up?need 4 points,Gary Mills has not become a bad manager over night and we need to stick by him,but I'm worried about by his poor players brought in,we seem to always to go back to team from start of last season,we certainly have not improved the squad (except coulson who's injured)
Massive two games coming up?need 4 points,Gary Mills has not become a bad manager over night and we need to stick by him,but I'm worried about by his poor players brought in,we seem to always to go back to team from start of last season,we certainly have not improved the squad (except coulson who's injured) haxbyreds

12:15am Sun 10 Feb 13

jumbojet says...

Erniet!! I told you a walk round the Bar Walls would be more interesting, more movement anyway, Barry told us that York City had a shot in the 87th minute, and Chris Jones was lost for words. I can only say well done, for you and about 200 others who made the trip. I wonder how much they get paid? from recent efforts they are not worth a massive amount. Sammy MciIlroy is the man we need, did a good job at Morecambe, and knows the game backwards, but would he want to come over the Pennines,not sure.
Erniet!! I told you a walk round the Bar Walls would be more interesting, more movement anyway, Barry told us that York City had a shot in the 87th minute, and Chris Jones was lost for words. I can only say well done, for you and about 200 others who made the trip. I wonder how much they get paid? from recent efforts they are not worth a massive amount. Sammy MciIlroy is the man we need, did a good job at Morecambe, and knows the game backwards, but would he want to come over the Pennines,not sure. jumbojet

12:42am Sun 10 Feb 13

GreenshawGrinder says...

Still eight points above the relegation zone! Not according to my maths, i make it seven. The next two games are now massive, both for the club and Gary Mills. Time for the players to roll up their sleeves, dig out some results and show that they care about the club. If we get anything from the Gillingham game it will be a bonus, the game against Barnet could be a disaster if we don't win.
Still eight points above the relegation zone! Not according to my maths, i make it seven. The next two games are now massive, both for the club and Gary Mills. Time for the players to roll up their sleeves, dig out some results and show that they care about the club. If we get anything from the Gillingham game it will be a bonus, the game against Barnet could be a disaster if we don't win. GreenshawGrinder

1:07am Sun 10 Feb 13

Pitbull Terry says...

Another shocking display. What is on show at the moment is a team (and I use the term loosely) that has lost all confidence and appears to have little commitment for the fight ahead. Several players are having truly awful games match after match. Kerr has been at fault for a number of goals conceded in recent games. When he was facing goal today why did he not just pass the ball back to Ingham to give it the big boot to safety? Instead he tries to dribble it somewhere, not sure where, and when the opposing player robs him and gets in on goal the inevitable penalty is given. It was a definite penalty by the way. For the 2nd penalty, Fyfields arms were around the attacker even if he did go down as if he'd been shot. Always a possibility that a penalty is given in this situation. 2nd half we then take off Potts and McLaughlin and bring on Chambers and Rodman. Kerr who had an absolute stinker of a 1st half is left on! He eventually departs and Mcdaid comes on to play initially in mid-field. Really I thought he was signed as a striker? He does however go up front with Walker later but by then the game is well and truly lost. So again no Reed, no Everson (anyone seen him lately)? Our January dealings, like last year are a joke it seems. One final thing, it's embarrassing to see the diminutive Walker trying to out jump defenders 6" bigger than him week after week. It's even worse when considering we play 4.3.3 and he's up there on his own! Next weeks games are truly massive!
Another shocking display. What is on show at the moment is a team (and I use the term loosely) that has lost all confidence and appears to have little commitment for the fight ahead. Several players are having truly awful games match after match. Kerr has been at fault for a number of goals conceded in recent games. When he was facing goal today why did he not just pass the ball back to Ingham to give it the big boot to safety? Instead he tries to dribble it somewhere, not sure where, and when the opposing player robs him and gets in on goal the inevitable penalty is given. It was a definite penalty by the way. For the 2nd penalty, Fyfields arms were around the attacker even if he did go down as if he'd been shot. Always a possibility that a penalty is given in this situation. 2nd half we then take off Potts and McLaughlin and bring on Chambers and Rodman. Kerr who had an absolute stinker of a 1st half is left on! He eventually departs and Mcdaid comes on to play initially in mid-field. Really I thought he was signed as a striker? He does however go up front with Walker later but by then the game is well and truly lost. So again no Reed, no Everson (anyone seen him lately)? Our January dealings, like last year are a joke it seems. One final thing, it's embarrassing to see the diminutive Walker trying to out jump defenders 6" bigger than him week after week. It's even worse when considering we play 4.3.3 and he's up there on his own! Next weeks games are truly massive! Pitbull Terry

1:16am Sun 10 Feb 13

GreenshawGrinder says...

Everson has been spotted working in a local supermarket, Iceland.
Everson has been spotted working in a local supermarket, Iceland. GreenshawGrinder

1:32am Sun 10 Feb 13

Mad for Minstermen says...

The majority of people on this forum, for Mills, against Mills and on the fence - Listen to the poor sods who turned out to support City at Wycombe. They are the only people worth listening to on here, they forked out good money to support their team who repaid them with an inept performance. Some of these footballers need a reality check, spoon fed and paid well. Is it asking too much to get them to turn up for work and put a proper shift in. Sack all of them for me, then they can wake up in the real world and find out just how custy they have it. No supporters, no team. Think of the cash the Council would save on a new ground!
The majority of people on this forum, for Mills, against Mills and on the fence - Listen to the poor sods who turned out to support City at Wycombe. They are the only people worth listening to on here, they forked out good money to support their team who repaid them with an inept performance. Some of these footballers need a reality check, spoon fed and paid well. Is it asking too much to get them to turn up for work and put a proper shift in. Sack all of them for me, then they can wake up in the real world and find out just how custy they have it. No supporters, no team. Think of the cash the Council would save on a new ground! Mad for Minstermen

1:56am Sun 10 Feb 13

bartsimmo says...

Well Portsmouth might as well go out of business because it doesnt look like I will get a home match next season as we will be in the conference!
Well Portsmouth might as well go out of business because it doesnt look like I will get a home match next season as we will be in the conference! bartsimmo

1:56am Sun 10 Feb 13

bartsimmo says...

Well Portsmouth might as well go out of business because it doesnt look like I will get a home match next season as we will be in the conference!
Well Portsmouth might as well go out of business because it doesnt look like I will get a home match next season as we will be in the conference! bartsimmo

2:26am Sun 10 Feb 13

Caliyorkia says...

johnboy2882 wrote:
we need 52 points to be safe 4 wins 3 draws from 15 games is do able get behind the team instead off slagging them off it is time to drop walker give mcdaid a go what has happend to everson
Exactly. And City have five games remaining against teams currently below them in the table; 3 at home and 2 away. Three wins and two draws from these plus a couple of points picked up elsewhere is all they need. No need to panic yet.
Looking at it another way, current form (2013 games) is 6 points from 7 games, not great but, if repeated, would be good enough to beat the drop.
It's City's first season up, next year will be better!
[quote][p][bold]johnboy2882[/bold] wrote: we need 52 points to be safe 4 wins 3 draws from 15 games is do able get behind the team instead off slagging them off it is time to drop walker give mcdaid a go what has happend to everson[/p][/quote]Exactly. And City have five games remaining against teams currently below them in the table; 3 at home and 2 away. Three wins and two draws from these plus a couple of points picked up elsewhere is all they need. No need to panic yet. Looking at it another way, current form (2013 games) is 6 points from 7 games, not great but, if repeated, would be good enough to beat the drop. It's City's first season up, next year will be better! Caliyorkia

6:18am Sun 10 Feb 13

YoRkIe59 says...

is it not time we realised its know good talking about changing to 442 Gary is right as far as he,s concerned and he won,t change,that was also more or less said in the press fri night.city were truly awfull to watch at times under Terry Dolan but my word how we could use a couple of his teams dour drab but hard fought one nil wins.the subject of cost if we sack Mills is pertinent but what would be the cost if we don,t and go down,leave it till the end of the season,yeah thats great but we need to stay up first.Lets see if theres any hint of Gary admitting he might,might just have to re think a few things in order to get some desperatley needed points.I also have never boo,ed a York city team,but if the team are particularly at home not looking bothered how on earth do they expect the support behind them.we were going through some pretty dire times when facing administration(or actually in it)with players not even being paid but playing there guts out for york city its about time the players we have started looking like they are bothered.With our huge financial restraints you can forgive players we have at the moment that may not be good enough,but never players who dont give a damm enough(Danny Parslow knockers take note).
is it not time we realised its know good talking about changing to 442 Gary is right as far as he,s concerned and he won,t change,that was also more or less said in the press fri night.city were truly awfull to watch at times under Terry Dolan but my word how we could use a couple of his teams dour drab but hard fought one nil wins.the subject of cost if we sack Mills is pertinent but what would be the cost if we don,t and go down,leave it till the end of the season,yeah thats great but we need to stay up first.Lets see if theres any hint of Gary admitting he might,might just have to re think a few things in order to get some desperatley needed points.I also have never boo,ed a York city team,but if the team are particularly at home not looking bothered how on earth do they expect the support behind them.we were going through some pretty dire times when facing administration(or actually in it)with players not even being paid but playing there guts out for york city its about time the players we have started looking like they are bothered.With our huge financial restraints you can forgive players we have at the moment that may not be good enough,but never players who dont give a damm enough(Danny Parslow knockers take note). YoRkIe59

8:06am Sun 10 Feb 13

YO1 says...

Lets sack Gary Mills and pay £1000's to him, Lyttle and Gee to pay their salaries for the remainder of their contracts.
Let's shout abuse at the players, tell them they're not good enough and then complain they're not trying.
Let's appoint a new manager, who exploits our precarious position with inflated wage demands for him and his backroom staff despite the transfer window being closed and unable to bring new players in.
Let's pay off the contracts of all the
players the new manager doesn't
want.
Let's stop going to games because the football is rubbish.
Let's cripple the club and contribute to us going back down to non league oblivion.
Any more bright ideas?
How about we turn up in force on Tuesday, actually support the team rather than leave it to about 20 kids to sing and do everything we possibly can to encourage the players to fight on behalf of the club and keep us up!
Lets sack Gary Mills and pay £1000's to him, Lyttle and Gee to pay their salaries for the remainder of their contracts. Let's shout abuse at the players, tell them they're not good enough and then complain they're not trying. Let's appoint a new manager, who exploits our precarious position with inflated wage demands for him and his backroom staff despite the transfer window being closed and unable to bring new players in. Let's pay off the contracts of all the players the new manager doesn't want. Let's stop going to games because the football is rubbish. Let's cripple the club and contribute to us going back down to non league oblivion. Any more bright ideas? How about we turn up in force on Tuesday, actually support the team rather than leave it to about 20 kids to sing and do everything we possibly can to encourage the players to fight on behalf of the club and keep us up! YO1

8:20am Sun 10 Feb 13

PhilTopping says...

Ok... So let's also stop pretending there aren't clubs doing a lot better than us operating on a fraction of our budget.

I'm tired of hearing that we are such a poor club we should be grateful for anything at all.

Mills has my support (for now), but a big man admits his mistakes and changes. Mills needs to swallow his enormous ego and decide whether he wants to evolve into a League manager or "stick to the principles that got York out of the conference" and lose his job.

His destiny really is in his own hands.

Let's not blame the fans for that.
Ok... So let's also stop pretending there aren't clubs doing a lot better than us operating on a fraction of our budget. I'm tired of hearing that we are such a poor club we should be grateful for anything at all. Mills has my support (for now), but a big man admits his mistakes and changes. Mills needs to swallow his enormous ego and decide whether he wants to evolve into a League manager or "stick to the principles that got York out of the conference" and lose his job. His destiny really is in his own hands. Let's not blame the fans for that. PhilTopping

8:33am Sun 10 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

Even if we beat Gillingham I will be still worried.
Even if we beat Gillingham I will be still worried. Helliwell's Not a Donkey

8:34am Sun 10 Feb 13

swh1963 says...

YO1 wrote:
Lets sack Gary Mills and pay £1000's to him, Lyttle and Gee to pay their salaries for the remainder of their contracts.
Let's shout abuse at the players, tell them they're not good enough and then complain they're not trying.
Let's appoint a new manager, who exploits our precarious position with inflated wage demands for him and his backroom staff despite the transfer window being closed and unable to bring new players in.
Let's pay off the contracts of all the
players the new manager doesn't
want.
Let's stop going to games because the football is rubbish.
Let's cripple the club and contribute to us going back down to non league oblivion.
Any more bright ideas?
How about we turn up in force on Tuesday, actually support the team rather than leave it to about 20 kids to sing and do everything we possibly can to encourage the players to fight on behalf of the club and keep us up!
Agreed. I respect those fans who went yesterday (I didn't) but take a step back everyone: we've gone up a league, it's bound to be tougher than last season and last season wasn't easy, getting promotion through the back door. We may not get a result against Gillingham (or a Barnet who held the league leaders to a draw) but relentless unconstructive negativity on this forum and at the ground will see us sink further. Starting Tuesday night let's all do our bit to kick start the season again - we can survive and I think we will.
[quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: Lets sack Gary Mills and pay £1000's to him, Lyttle and Gee to pay their salaries for the remainder of their contracts. Let's shout abuse at the players, tell them they're not good enough and then complain they're not trying. Let's appoint a new manager, who exploits our precarious position with inflated wage demands for him and his backroom staff despite the transfer window being closed and unable to bring new players in. Let's pay off the contracts of all the players the new manager doesn't want. Let's stop going to games because the football is rubbish. Let's cripple the club and contribute to us going back down to non league oblivion. Any more bright ideas? How about we turn up in force on Tuesday, actually support the team rather than leave it to about 20 kids to sing and do everything we possibly can to encourage the players to fight on behalf of the club and keep us up![/p][/quote]Agreed. I respect those fans who went yesterday (I didn't) but take a step back everyone: we've gone up a league, it's bound to be tougher than last season and last season wasn't easy, getting promotion through the back door. We may not get a result against Gillingham (or a Barnet who held the league leaders to a draw) but relentless unconstructive negativity on this forum and at the ground will see us sink further. Starting Tuesday night let's all do our bit to kick start the season again - we can survive and I think we will. swh1963

8:47am Sun 10 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

Also we all want changes to formation and change in personel on the pitch, who have we got in reserve to change things.

Paul Musselwhite
Jon Challinor
ChrisDoig (always injured)
Tom Allen (too young)
Dave McGurk (injured)
Left back (no back up)
Lee Bullock
Ben Everson
David McDaid
Jamie Reed
Tom Platt (always on loan)
Micheal Coulson (injured)
Also we all want changes to formation and change in personel on the pitch, who have we got in reserve to change things. Paul Musselwhite Jon Challinor ChrisDoig (always injured) Tom Allen (too young) Dave McGurk (injured) Left back (no back up) Lee Bullock Ben Everson David McDaid Jamie Reed Tom Platt (always on loan) Micheal Coulson (injured) Helliwell's Not a Donkey

8:47am Sun 10 Feb 13

openallhours says...

Anybody see the Football League Show last night? Mills decided to motivate (humiliate) the players by making them walk to the ground before the game. Sorry, but I've had it with him now. The players should chuck him in the Ouse and let him swim back to the Midlands! Idiot.
Anybody see the Football League Show last night? Mills decided to motivate (humiliate) the players by making them walk to the ground before the game. Sorry, but I've had it with him now. The players should chuck him in the Ouse and let him swim back to the Midlands! Idiot. openallhours

9:22am Sun 10 Feb 13

carterjason says...

Big task to turn this around, in all my years of following city seen poor teams. Players just turning up no passion or fight no idea how to take the game to oppossition and can't score a goal.
Ok we got a small budget, but look at the signings made in summer only coulson has being any good.
Maybe a recall for lee bullock and challinor and push blair up with walker. Thats what i would do....as for mills well who knows but i think he is on borrowed time!
Big task to turn this around, in all my years of following city seen poor teams. Players just turning up no passion or fight no idea how to take the game to oppossition and can't score a goal. Ok we got a small budget, but look at the signings made in summer only coulson has being any good. Maybe a recall for lee bullock and challinor and push blair up with walker. Thats what i would do....as for mills well who knows but i think he is on borrowed time! carterjason

9:49am Sun 10 Feb 13

Budgie says...

Barrie Parker informed us that Peters Pies were excellent at Wycombe,great info. That was the only good thing to come out of listening to that appeared to be an awful display,one shot on goal all the match. Anyone that had any knowledge of the game would be aware that City would be defeated,half the team are not good enough and never will be.Those who view the team through rose coloured spectacles need to get real.The best answer to keep us in Div.2 is SACK MILLS promptly get a new face in to wake everybody up and someone with a fresh system of play to get us out of our present mess. .
Barrie Parker informed us that Peters Pies were excellent at Wycombe,great info. That was the only good thing to come out of listening to that appeared to be an awful display,one shot on goal all the match. Anyone that had any knowledge of the game would be aware that City would be defeated,half the team are not good enough and never will be.Those who view the team through rose coloured spectacles need to get real.The best answer to keep us in Div.2 is SACK MILLS promptly get a new face in to wake everybody up and someone with a fresh system of play to get us out of our present mess. . Budgie

9:57am Sun 10 Feb 13

Lineker's Lad says...

Usual selection of well-balanced hysteria I see; some of you really should be ashamed of yourselves.
Usual selection of well-balanced hysteria I see; some of you really should be ashamed of yourselves. Lineker's Lad

10:02am Sun 10 Feb 13

Mad for Minstermen says...

Is chris brass available, I recall half the pop stand applauding him on that fateful last day and shouting his name in adulation. He was a loser and at present so are we. Difficult to motivate players when confidence is low. Time for new face to come in and raise the bar otherwise is tah tah. The club needs to find the cash to fund this at all costs otherwise its another 8 years plus in the wilderness.
Is chris brass available, I recall half the pop stand applauding him on that fateful last day and shouting his name in adulation. He was a loser and at present so are we. Difficult to motivate players when confidence is low. Time for new face to come in and raise the bar otherwise is tah tah. The club needs to find the cash to fund this at all costs otherwise its another 8 years plus in the wilderness. Mad for Minstermen

10:10am Sun 10 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

openallhours wrote:
Anybody see the Football League Show last night? Mills decided to motivate (humiliate) the players by making them walk to the ground before the game. Sorry, but I've had it with him now. The players should chuck him in the Ouse and let him swim back to the Midlands! Idiot.
Yes - To be quite honest to see the smirking Gary Mills leading his players on the walk into Wycombes ground made me cringe. It reminded me of Phil Browns stunt when he chastised the Hull City players on the pitch at half-time (We all know what happened to him). We dont need these ego trips, we just need honest sweat and toil to get us out of this mess.
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Anybody see the Football League Show last night? Mills decided to motivate (humiliate) the players by making them walk to the ground before the game. Sorry, but I've had it with him now. The players should chuck him in the Ouse and let him swim back to the Midlands! Idiot.[/p][/quote]Yes - To be quite honest to see the smirking Gary Mills leading his players on the walk into Wycombes ground made me cringe. It reminded me of Phil Browns stunt when he chastised the Hull City players on the pitch at half-time (We all know what happened to him). We dont need these ego trips, we just need honest sweat and toil to get us out of this mess. OLD - HEAD

10:28am Sun 10 Feb 13

Lattice says...

I am one of the southern supporters who only sees the team at this end of the country.

I went today. It was a heartless display. The Wycombe supporters I talked to said it was the worst visiting team performance they had seen this season.

I got the impression that there is now a move afoot in the team to work to rule until the Manager gets the push. Its a fine line to tread but they know there are enough games left to get out of trouble. It is something that happens quite often. A team plays poorly, the manager goes and suddenly the same squad performs. Player power.

When a leader goes to press saying one of his team is worth his weight in gold he does two things. He alienates the player in question from the rest of the team and he alienates those who are trying from him. Leadership at its worst.

When a manager makes a gaff in an interview about playing Smith upfront and does not apologise for his misguided management he also loses credibility.

If as mentioned he made them walk to the ground today he is rubbing salt into the wound and is hastening his demise.

Witness yesterday the Wycombe boss constantly on his feet urging his lads on, most of whom should still be wearing school blazers and Mills and his bench sat glum and inanimate.

Player power will see Mills out. He has lost popular support within the team.

As to whether we have the right team, that's a different story.
I am one of the southern supporters who only sees the team at this end of the country. I went today. It was a heartless display. The Wycombe supporters I talked to said it was the worst visiting team performance they had seen this season. I got the impression that there is now a move afoot in the team to work to rule until the Manager gets the push. Its a fine line to tread but they know there are enough games left to get out of trouble. It is something that happens quite often. A team plays poorly, the manager goes and suddenly the same squad performs. Player power. When a leader goes to press saying one of his team is worth his weight in gold he does two things. He alienates the player in question from the rest of the team and he alienates those who are trying from him. Leadership at its worst. When a manager makes a gaff in an interview about playing Smith upfront and does not apologise for his misguided management he also loses credibility. If as mentioned he made them walk to the ground today he is rubbing salt into the wound and is hastening his demise. Witness yesterday the Wycombe boss constantly on his feet urging his lads on, most of whom should still be wearing school blazers and Mills and his bench sat glum and inanimate. Player power will see Mills out. He has lost popular support within the team. As to whether we have the right team, that's a different story. Lattice

10:34am Sun 10 Feb 13

duffy says...

Tug job wrote:
duffy wrote:
missionfromarry wrote:
Talk of sacking Mills is frankly ridiculous. This season is all about finishing above the relegation positions and staying in the league. We will do that. Mills is the man to steer the club to greater things. Those that harp on about John Ward, he actually took the club backwards when he took over then to success. Some parallels here I think, get through this season then judge at the end of next. Get behind the club and get realistic.
Ward came to a struggling team after the Bird era and while its true he struggled at first that's where the similarities end between the two men for me. Ward knew what was needed and targeted the likes of Barnes while Mills has more of a scatter gun aproach signing numerous players. Ward also played a more rigid formation playing players in their dedicated positions rather than asking players to adapt and be more flexible.
John Ward added Paul Barnes to John !ird's team and got the best of them. Half the current squad is not up the FL standard.
And who made the decision not to strengthen the defence when many of us could see it was not football league level ? Yes the budget has given him problems signing new players but he stated the players he had would make the step up when it was obvious that was not the case, he was far too loyal to the squad as a whole. End of the day the initial budget looks to have been badly spent on players like Blanchett, Johnstone, Bullock and that's been followed up by yet another bunch of January signings no better than last years. Mills did make some initial crucial signings when we were in the conference and he got us promoted which we should all be appreciative of. However I think he has made a right mess of this season from the initial signings, to his home formation, to the January signings and he needs to change things. Good managers can work wonders on smaller budgets and get the best out of average players while developing those with potential, I'm not seeing any if that at the moment. The better, younger player are going backwards and look confused with the constant chopping and changing with Blair as one example of a player who is a winger yet pushed all over the place, Fyfield is never a left back and his confidence is shot while Paddy is also going backwards. Ward and Smith would never have done that. We finished yesterday with no midfielders on the pitch and five defenders and five forwards.
[quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]missionfromarry[/bold] wrote: Talk of sacking Mills is frankly ridiculous. This season is all about finishing above the relegation positions and staying in the league. We will do that. Mills is the man to steer the club to greater things. Those that harp on about John Ward, he actually took the club backwards when he took over then to success. Some parallels here I think, get through this season then judge at the end of next. Get behind the club and get realistic.[/p][/quote]Ward came to a struggling team after the Bird era and while its true he struggled at first that's where the similarities end between the two men for me. Ward knew what was needed and targeted the likes of Barnes while Mills has more of a scatter gun aproach signing numerous players. Ward also played a more rigid formation playing players in their dedicated positions rather than asking players to adapt and be more flexible.[/p][/quote]John Ward added Paul Barnes to John !ird's team and got the best of them. Half the current squad is not up the FL standard.[/p][/quote]And who made the decision not to strengthen the defence when many of us could see it was not football league level ? Yes the budget has given him problems signing new players but he stated the players he had would make the step up when it was obvious that was not the case, he was far too loyal to the squad as a whole. End of the day the initial budget looks to have been badly spent on players like Blanchett, Johnstone, Bullock and that's been followed up by yet another bunch of January signings no better than last years. Mills did make some initial crucial signings when we were in the conference and he got us promoted which we should all be appreciative of. However I think he has made a right mess of this season from the initial signings, to his home formation, to the January signings and he needs to change things. Good managers can work wonders on smaller budgets and get the best out of average players while developing those with potential, I'm not seeing any if that at the moment. The better, younger player are going backwards and look confused with the constant chopping and changing with Blair as one example of a player who is a winger yet pushed all over the place, Fyfield is never a left back and his confidence is shot while Paddy is also going backwards. Ward and Smith would never have done that. We finished yesterday with no midfielders on the pitch and five defenders and five forwards. duffy

10:39am Sun 10 Feb 13

RooBeck says...

Whatever we do as a club and a team, we must not panic! The manager, coaching staff and players need to sit down and have a good look at their current lack of form(particularly over the last two games) and put it right. Are the two new loanees in defence upsetting the balance of the Back Four (eight goals conceded is not a ringing endorsement!) and if so, then it's very important to get that area of play right. Time for some new formations and ideas, particularly up front and to face the final fifteen games with self-belief and confidence. Let's see David McDaid and John MacReady given a chance and if Dave McGurk is fit, get him back in the side. All we as fans can do, is give them our full backing because anything less will probably prove costly. COYR.
Whatever we do as a club and a team, we must not panic! The manager, coaching staff and players need to sit down and have a good look at their current lack of form(particularly over the last two games) and put it right. Are the two new loanees in defence upsetting the balance of the Back Four (eight goals conceded is not a ringing endorsement!) and if so, then it's very important to get that area of play right. Time for some new formations and ideas, particularly up front and to face the final fifteen games with self-belief and confidence. Let's see David McDaid and John MacReady given a chance and if Dave McGurk is fit, get him back in the side. All we as fans can do, is give them our full backing because anything less will probably prove costly. COYR. RooBeck

10:41am Sun 10 Feb 13

minstermen says...

All we need is a 6 foot 4 centre forward
problem solved
All we need is a 6 foot 4 centre forward problem solved minstermen

10:43am Sun 10 Feb 13

Marooned says...

Gary gave me my best footballing year ever last season, and I remember Chris Jones as a player! But I don't think Wycombe are a great team and to see them put 7 past us this season is embarrassing. Yesterday we were out-paced and out-musseled, we were unorganized and lacked confidence. The two young lads at the back have bright futures ahead of them, and I saw O'Connell have a good game for England at Donny on tue, but they need guidance not bullying. The players I held in such high regard last year seem shadows of there former selves.
In all my years watching York I have constantly been embarrassed and annoyed by the negative calls from the terraces as I think it has a very bad effect on performances. I know I would not work well if someone was shouting abuse at me. York need encouragement on the pitch. But Gary, you need to throw away your team sheet and white board and start again. Rethink your tactics and coaching and with the resources at hand give us a solid team that can compete at this level or move over to let someone else in who has the fire in their belly to keep York moving up.
Best moment of the game was when a York fan shouted, "Ainsworth! Your music is crap," then after a short gap " you're a good manager though"
Gary gave me my best footballing year ever last season, and I remember Chris Jones as a player! But I don't think Wycombe are a great team and to see them put 7 past us this season is embarrassing. Yesterday we were out-paced and out-musseled, we were unorganized and lacked confidence. The two young lads at the back have bright futures ahead of them, and I saw O'Connell have a good game for England at Donny on tue, but they need guidance not bullying. The players I held in such high regard last year seem shadows of there former selves. In all my years watching York I have constantly been embarrassed and annoyed by the negative calls from the terraces as I think it has a very bad effect on performances. I know I would not work well if someone was shouting abuse at me. York need encouragement on the pitch. But Gary, you need to throw away your team sheet and white board and start again. Rethink your tactics and coaching and with the resources at hand give us a solid team that can compete at this level or move over to let someone else in who has the fire in their belly to keep York moving up. Best moment of the game was when a York fan shouted, "Ainsworth! Your music is crap," then after a short gap " you're a good manager though" Marooned

11:01am Sun 10 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

Walking your players to the game how embarrassing. All the other managers and players will see that and think "What the f***" here is a team with no confidence let's go for it. And as for Kerr, I've said it weeks ago "STOP F****ING WITH BALL, STOP GOING SIDEWARDS AND BACKWARDS, GO FORWARDS" and look what happens he conceded a penalty. Grrr
Walking your players to the game how embarrassing. All the other managers and players will see that and think "What the f***" here is a team with no confidence let's go for it. And as for Kerr, I've said it weeks ago "STOP F****ING WITH BALL, STOP GOING SIDEWARDS AND BACKWARDS, GO FORWARDS" and look what happens he conceded a penalty. Grrr Helliwell's Not a Donkey

11:02am Sun 10 Feb 13

Keith...lad says...

Midseason crisis at City.Well we all been here before more bad times than good times.But when the good times they do seem that extra bit special.
Lets get in the real world now and remember we only just got out of the Blue Square last year and went into the football league with a limited budget and with players for the first time playing league football.
Our immediate target is two home to get 4 points.
The season target now is the stay clear of the bottom two places after 46 games.
Midseason crisis at City.Well we all been here before more bad times than good times.But when the good times they do seem that extra bit special. Lets get in the real world now and remember we only just got out of the Blue Square last year and went into the football league with a limited budget and with players for the first time playing league football. Our immediate target is two home to get 4 points. The season target now is the stay clear of the bottom two places after 46 games. Keith...lad

11:07am Sun 10 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

And for the third goal our players were to scared to tackle just in case the conceded a freekick or penalty. We need to get in hard early put the opposition on the back foot/scare them and they will be there for the taking, like Oldham did to Liverpool the other week. I call it Bully Boy tactics. But alas we have nobody in our ranks to do this,all we do is pussyfoot around.
And for the third goal our players were to scared to tackle just in case the conceded a freekick or penalty. We need to get in hard early put the opposition on the back foot/scare them and they will be there for the taking, like Oldham did to Liverpool the other week. I call it Bully Boy tactics. But alas we have nobody in our ranks to do this,all we do is pussyfoot around. Helliwell's Not a Donkey

11:25am Sun 10 Feb 13

yorkiemike says...

It`s all been said above, the fors and against.As a supporter of some 65 years I`ve seen all the ups and downs and this obviously hurts.
I`m a GM fan but I think he`s trying to be some one he isn`t, i.e. "Cloughie".Just be yourself Gary and be prepared to eat humble pie and we will rally round you.Admit your signings and team selections have been wrong and get back to the drawing board,change the formation and "rest" your favourites of Walker,Kerr and Smith.
It`s going to be a tight finish but I think we`ll just about make it!
It`s all been said above, the fors and against.As a supporter of some 65 years I`ve seen all the ups and downs and this obviously hurts. I`m a GM fan but I think he`s trying to be some one he isn`t, i.e. "Cloughie".Just be yourself Gary and be prepared to eat humble pie and we will rally round you.Admit your signings and team selections have been wrong and get back to the drawing board,change the formation and "rest" your favourites of Walker,Kerr and Smith. It`s going to be a tight finish but I think we`ll just about make it! yorkiemike

12:36pm Sun 10 Feb 13

Koala says...

Should have made them walk home!
Should have made them walk home! Koala

12:58pm Sun 10 Feb 13

Phil, Leeds says...

I've said for weeks that Mills is digging his own grave with a formation built around a player, Walker, who isn't good enough for League football and with some panic, scattergun loan signing players inferior to some fringe players we already have available. This on top of a massive ego and incredible stubbornness to listen to change what he's doing. Other teams have sussed him but more worrying yesterday is that he now appears to have lost the players support and when that happens there is only one way things will go. Only players who will go where it hurts and who have pride and fight will halt this slide. Have we got 11 of those?
I've said for weeks that Mills is digging his own grave with a formation built around a player, Walker, who isn't good enough for League football and with some panic, scattergun loan signing players inferior to some fringe players we already have available. This on top of a massive ego and incredible stubbornness to listen to change what he's doing. Other teams have sussed him but more worrying yesterday is that he now appears to have lost the players support and when that happens there is only one way things will go. Only players who will go where it hurts and who have pride and fight will halt this slide. Have we got 11 of those? Phil, Leeds

1:12pm Sun 10 Feb 13

garnham says...

YO1 wrote:
Lets sack Gary Mills and pay £1000's to him, Lyttle and Gee to pay their salaries for the remainder of their contracts.
Let's shout abuse at the players, tell them they're not good enough and then complain they're not trying.
Let's appoint a new manager, who exploits our precarious position with inflated wage demands for him and his backroom staff despite the transfer window being closed and unable to bring new players in.
Let's pay off the contracts of all the
players the new manager doesn't
want.
Let's stop going to games because the football is rubbish.
Let's cripple the club and contribute to us going back down to non league oblivion.
Any more bright ideas?
How about we turn up in force on Tuesday, actually support the team rather than leave it to about 20 kids to sing and do everything we possibly can to encourage the players to fight on behalf of the club and keep us up!
Agreed All home games are bigger now than any appearance at Wembly.. No Moans or groans just good old fashioned c'mon city !!!!
[quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: Lets sack Gary Mills and pay £1000's to him, Lyttle and Gee to pay their salaries for the remainder of their contracts. Let's shout abuse at the players, tell them they're not good enough and then complain they're not trying. Let's appoint a new manager, who exploits our precarious position with inflated wage demands for him and his backroom staff despite the transfer window being closed and unable to bring new players in. Let's pay off the contracts of all the players the new manager doesn't want. Let's stop going to games because the football is rubbish. Let's cripple the club and contribute to us going back down to non league oblivion. Any more bright ideas? How about we turn up in force on Tuesday, actually support the team rather than leave it to about 20 kids to sing and do everything we possibly can to encourage the players to fight on behalf of the club and keep us up![/p][/quote]Agreed All home games are bigger now than any appearance at Wembly.. No Moans or groans just good old fashioned c'mon city !!!! garnham

1:14pm Sun 10 Feb 13

YO1 says...

Just seen local lad Simon Grayson having dinner in York. Let's all get excited about the high calibre replacements should Gary Mills walk only to be left with a Dolan/ Walker/Brass type figure who takes us backwards into non league forever.
Just seen local lad Simon Grayson having dinner in York. Let's all get excited about the high calibre replacements should Gary Mills walk only to be left with a Dolan/ Walker/Brass type figure who takes us backwards into non league forever. YO1

1:43pm Sun 10 Feb 13

bertieb says...

Just returned from Wycombe. What an absolutely diabolical performance. We are now in a relegation dogfight and, on yesterday's evidence, the players don't seem to care. Fyfield, Smith, Kerr and Walker were especially poor, and Parslow, hard as he tries, is not FL standard. McDaid looked awful and Potts was anonymous. When Rodman is the best player in the team, something has gone horrendously wrong.
Just returned from Wycombe. What an absolutely diabolical performance. We are now in a relegation dogfight and, on yesterday's evidence, the players don't seem to care. Fyfield, Smith, Kerr and Walker were especially poor, and Parslow, hard as he tries, is not FL standard. McDaid looked awful and Potts was anonymous. When Rodman is the best player in the team, something has gone horrendously wrong. bertieb

1:44pm Sun 10 Feb 13

RooBeck says...

Budgie wrote:
Barrie Parker informed us that Peters Pies were excellent at Wycombe,great info. That was the only good thing to come out of listening to that appeared to be an awful display,one shot on goal all the match. Anyone that had any knowledge of the game would be aware that City would be defeated,half the team are not good enough and never will be.Those who view the team through rose coloured spectacles need to get real.The best answer to keep us in Div.2 is SACK MILLS promptly get a new face in to wake everybody up and someone with a fresh system of play to get us out of our present mess. .
After the award of their second penalty, it sounded as if Barrie was going to chase after the ref with his microphone and put it somewhere that it hurts!! You've got to hand it to him - he's passionate about City!
[quote][p][bold]Budgie[/bold] wrote: Barrie Parker informed us that Peters Pies were excellent at Wycombe,great info. That was the only good thing to come out of listening to that appeared to be an awful display,one shot on goal all the match. Anyone that had any knowledge of the game would be aware that City would be defeated,half the team are not good enough and never will be.Those who view the team through rose coloured spectacles need to get real.The best answer to keep us in Div.2 is SACK MILLS promptly get a new face in to wake everybody up and someone with a fresh system of play to get us out of our present mess. .[/p][/quote]After the award of their second penalty, it sounded as if Barrie was going to chase after the ref with his microphone and put it somewhere that it hurts!! You've got to hand it to him - he's passionate about City! RooBeck

2:27pm Sun 10 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

i can't listen to BP and CJ on the radio its worse then having tea with your granny and watching as shes knitting yet another wooley jumper and hoping its not for you..
i can't listen to BP and CJ on the radio its worse then having tea with your granny and watching as shes knitting yet another wooley jumper and hoping its not for you.. redbluelion

2:33pm Sun 10 Feb 13

duffy says...

RooBeck wrote:
Budgie wrote:
Barrie Parker informed us that Peters Pies were excellent at Wycombe,great info. That was the only good thing to come out of listening to that appeared to be an awful display,one shot on goal all the match. Anyone that had any knowledge of the game would be aware that City would be defeated,half the team are not good enough and never will be.Those who view the team through rose coloured spectacles need to get real.The best answer to keep us in Div.2 is SACK MILLS promptly get a new face in to wake everybody up and someone with a fresh system of play to get us out of our present mess. .
After the award of their second penalty, it sounded as if Barrie was going to chase after the ref with his microphone and put it somewhere that it hurts!! You've got to hand it to him - he's passionate about City!
And usually way wrong. Those at the game say it was a blatant shirt tug by Fyfield.
[quote][p][bold]RooBeck[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Budgie[/bold] wrote: Barrie Parker informed us that Peters Pies were excellent at Wycombe,great info. That was the only good thing to come out of listening to that appeared to be an awful display,one shot on goal all the match. Anyone that had any knowledge of the game would be aware that City would be defeated,half the team are not good enough and never will be.Those who view the team through rose coloured spectacles need to get real.The best answer to keep us in Div.2 is SACK MILLS promptly get a new face in to wake everybody up and someone with a fresh system of play to get us out of our present mess. .[/p][/quote]After the award of their second penalty, it sounded as if Barrie was going to chase after the ref with his microphone and put it somewhere that it hurts!! You've got to hand it to him - he's passionate about City![/p][/quote]And usually way wrong. Those at the game say it was a blatant shirt tug by Fyfield. duffy

2:38pm Sun 10 Feb 13

bill bailey says...

Phil, Leeds wrote:
I've said for weeks that Mills is digging his own grave with a formation built around a player, Walker, who isn't good enough for League football and with some panic, scattergun loan signing players inferior to some fringe players we already have available. This on top of a massive ego and incredible stubbornness to listen to change what he's doing. Other teams have sussed him but more worrying yesterday is that he now appears to have lost the players support and when that happens there is only one way things will go. Only players who will go where it hurts and who have pride and fight will halt this slide. Have we got 11 of those?
Most sensible piece on here i have read,it seams most of them dont like the heat in the kitchen.this time of the year the players should be spitting blood
for a next seasons contract.there is something very wrong in the dressing room," oh dear what can the matter be"
[quote][p][bold]Phil, Leeds[/bold] wrote: I've said for weeks that Mills is digging his own grave with a formation built around a player, Walker, who isn't good enough for League football and with some panic, scattergun loan signing players inferior to some fringe players we already have available. This on top of a massive ego and incredible stubbornness to listen to change what he's doing. Other teams have sussed him but more worrying yesterday is that he now appears to have lost the players support and when that happens there is only one way things will go. Only players who will go where it hurts and who have pride and fight will halt this slide. Have we got 11 of those?[/p][/quote]Most sensible piece on here i have read,it seams most of them dont like the heat in the kitchen.this time of the year the players should be spitting blood for a next seasons contract.there is something very wrong in the dressing room," oh dear what can the matter be" bill bailey

2:44pm Sun 10 Feb 13

PositiveFootball says...

On this team, we fight for that inch
On this team, we tear ourselves, and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We CLAW with our finger nails for that inch. Cause we know
when we add up all those inches
that's going to make the f****** difference between WINNING and LOSING between LIVING and DYING.

I'll tell you this in any fight it is the guy who is willing to die who is going to win that inch. You gotta look at the guy next to you. Look into his eyes.
Now I think you are going to see a guy who will go that inch with you.You are going to see a guy
who will sacrifice himself for this team because he knows when it comes down to it, you are gonna do the same thing for him.

That's a team, gentlemen
and either we heal now, as a team,
or we will die as individuals.
That's football guys

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=WO4tIrjB
Dkk
On this team, we fight for that inch On this team, we tear ourselves, and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We CLAW with our finger nails for that inch. Cause we know when we add up all those inches that's going to make the f****** difference between WINNING and LOSING between LIVING and DYING. I'll tell you this in any fight it is the guy who is willing to die who is going to win that inch. You gotta look at the guy next to you. Look into his eyes. Now I think you are going to see a guy who will go that inch with you.You are going to see a guy who will sacrifice himself for this team because he knows when it comes down to it, you are gonna do the same thing for him. That's a team, gentlemen and either we heal now, as a team, or we will die as individuals. That's football guys https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=WO4tIrjB Dkk PositiveFootball

3:28pm Sun 10 Feb 13

long distance depressive says...

When teams go up a division the previous momentum often carriesand and creates a false sense of expectation. This season is proving a classic case of that..Mr Mills even jumped on the bandwagon by saying we could get promotion. Realistically it has to be aed tht we never bought players in who could slot into the new league and sadly a couple of players who you would have expected to really step up haven't done so (Paddy and Blair) One dmensional tactics and too litle momentum is predictable and opposing managers easily ave the mesure of us, Mills doesn't seem to have the nous to alter things accordingly. The new full-time coaching system has proven to be lacking judging by the constantly poor performances and lack of shape and/or guie. Lack of goals through reying on Walker to battle at least one bigger/stronger defender whilst lacking support is a constant factor, lack of forward momentum down the flanks and iffy defending (largely caused by the 'plan of passing sideways/backwards and then often a hospital pass only ads to the quation. Time for a rethink Mr Mills (and Gee/Lyttle-if thy have any say) and don't take the fans for mugs by pretending the players have been magnificent or scappingot adraw at ome against 'lesser' oposition (in Lge 2 terms) are massive points won. Crowds are dropping (if you discount away fans) and a lack of cup results leaves us surely financially struggling.

C'mon City, let's get a grip, show some passion and throw in a bit of football whilst your at it.
When teams go up a division the previous momentum often carriesand and creates a false sense of expectation. This season is proving a classic case of that..Mr Mills even jumped on the bandwagon by saying we could get promotion. Realistically it has to be aed tht we never bought players in who could slot into the new league and sadly a couple of players who you would have expected to really step up haven't done so (Paddy and Blair) One dmensional tactics and too litle momentum is predictable and opposing managers easily ave the mesure of us, Mills doesn't seem to have the nous to alter things accordingly. The new full-time coaching system has proven to be lacking judging by the constantly poor performances and lack of shape and/or guie. Lack of goals through reying on Walker to battle at least one bigger/stronger defender whilst lacking support is a constant factor, lack of forward momentum down the flanks and iffy defending (largely caused by the 'plan of passing sideways/backwards and then often a hospital pass only ads to the quation. Time for a rethink Mr Mills (and Gee/Lyttle-if thy have any say) and don't take the fans for mugs by pretending the players have been magnificent or scappingot adraw at ome against 'lesser' oposition (in Lge 2 terms) are massive points won. Crowds are dropping (if you discount away fans) and a lack of cup results leaves us surely financially struggling. C'mon City, let's get a grip, show some passion and throw in a bit of football whilst your at it. long distance depressive

3:39pm Sun 10 Feb 13

bill bailey says...

PositiveFootball wrote:
On this team, we fight for that inch
On this team, we tear ourselves, and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We CLAW with our finger nails for that inch. Cause we know
when we add up all those inches
that's going to make the f****** difference between WINNING and LOSING between LIVING and DYING.

I'll tell you this in any fight it is the guy who is willing to die who is going to win that inch. You gotta look at the guy next to you. Look into his eyes.
Now I think you are going to see a guy who will go that inch with you.You are going to see a guy
who will sacrifice himself for this team because he knows when it comes down to it, you are gonna do the same thing for him.

That's a team, gentlemen
and either we heal now, as a team,
or we will die as individuals.
That's football guys

https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=WO4tIrjB

Dkk
Well said my friend,thats what it boils down to at the end of the day.how bad do you want it.all pull the same way.spit blood,after the game if your not sh@@@.you havent done your job.what all the players and management team must realise there are others out there would do what they are doing for less money.a job is a job ,is a job. i would take over the team tomorrow put pride back into them,fight,
and fire in their bellies, They need motivating,they need man managing.
clean up the dressing room.and when they walk out to play their chest would stick out a mile.
[quote][p][bold]PositiveFootball[/bold] wrote: On this team, we fight for that inch On this team, we tear ourselves, and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We CLAW with our finger nails for that inch. Cause we know when we add up all those inches that's going to make the f****** difference between WINNING and LOSING between LIVING and DYING. I'll tell you this in any fight it is the guy who is willing to die who is going to win that inch. You gotta look at the guy next to you. Look into his eyes. Now I think you are going to see a guy who will go that inch with you.You are going to see a guy who will sacrifice himself for this team because he knows when it comes down to it, you are gonna do the same thing for him. That's a team, gentlemen and either we heal now, as a team, or we will die as individuals. That's football guys https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=WO4tIrjB Dkk[/p][/quote]Well said my friend,thats what it boils down to at the end of the day.how bad do you want it.all pull the same way.spit blood,after the game if your not sh@@@.you havent done your job.what all the players and management team must realise there are others out there would do what they are doing for less money.a job is a job ,is a job. i would take over the team tomorrow put pride back into them,fight, and fire in their bellies, They need motivating,they need man managing. clean up the dressing room.and when they walk out to play their chest would stick out a mile. bill bailey

4:11pm Sun 10 Feb 13

neutral observer 2 says...

legend7 wrote:
kirkbride1979 wrote:
If mills went then who would we get in ?????
personally id like to see andy mcmillan or steve coppell to come in
I needed a chuckle.
One walks away from clubs as soon as its under pressure or no money.
The other sells insurance , estate agent and has no experience.
Just what a club needs
[quote][p][bold]legend7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kirkbride1979[/bold] wrote: If mills went then who would we get in ?????[/p][/quote]personally id like to see andy mcmillan or steve coppell to come in[/p][/quote]I needed a chuckle. One walks away from clubs as soon as its under pressure or no money. The other sells insurance , estate agent and has no experience. Just what a club needs neutral observer 2

4:15pm Sun 10 Feb 13

A Bottom says...

minstermen wrote:
All we need is a 6 foot 4 centre forward
problem solved
No we need a 7 foot centre forward and kick the ball as high as we can in the air
[quote][p][bold]minstermen[/bold] wrote: All we need is a 6 foot 4 centre forward problem solved[/p][/quote]No we need a 7 foot centre forward and kick the ball as high as we can in the air A Bottom

4:19pm Sun 10 Feb 13

A Bottom says...

Budgie wrote:
Barrie Parker informed us that Peters Pies were excellent at Wycombe,great info. That was the only good thing to come out of listening to that appeared to be an awful display,one shot on goal all the match. Anyone that had any knowledge of the game would be aware that City would be defeated,half the team are not good enough and never will be.Those who view the team through rose coloured spectacles need to get real.The best answer to keep us in Div.2 is SACK MILLS promptly get a new face in to wake everybody up and someone with a fresh system of play to get us out of our present mess. .
agree, get Bob the Builder in!!!
[quote][p][bold]Budgie[/bold] wrote: Barrie Parker informed us that Peters Pies were excellent at Wycombe,great info. That was the only good thing to come out of listening to that appeared to be an awful display,one shot on goal all the match. Anyone that had any knowledge of the game would be aware that City would be defeated,half the team are not good enough and never will be.Those who view the team through rose coloured spectacles need to get real.The best answer to keep us in Div.2 is SACK MILLS promptly get a new face in to wake everybody up and someone with a fresh system of play to get us out of our present mess. .[/p][/quote]agree, get Bob the Builder in!!! A Bottom

4:25pm Sun 10 Feb 13

RooBeck says...

duffy wrote:
RooBeck wrote:
Budgie wrote:
Barrie Parker informed us that Peters Pies were excellent at Wycombe,great info. That was the only good thing to come out of listening to that appeared to be an awful display,one shot on goal all the match. Anyone that had any knowledge of the game would be aware that City would be defeated,half the team are not good enough and never will be.Those who view the team through rose coloured spectacles need to get real.The best answer to keep us in Div.2 is SACK MILLS promptly get a new face in to wake everybody up and someone with a fresh system of play to get us out of our present mess. .
After the award of their second penalty, it sounded as if Barrie was going to chase after the ref with his microphone and put it somewhere that it hurts!! You've got to hand it to him - he's passionate about City!
And usually way wrong. Those at the game say it was a blatant shirt tug by Fyfield.
Barrie thought the Wycombe player should have had a yellow car for diving and Chris Jones concurred!! BUT, let's stop all this 'umming' ad 'aarring' and negative vibes and get down to BC on Tuesday night and Saturday afternoon and 'will' this side to a couple of wins - we can do it and the players have to play their part by committing to a 100% effort to the cause! And most importantly, no whining or taciturn fans in the terraces, but lets have some real vocal support for our team and get them over the winning line!! (50+ points). Heads-up and chests-out lads - we are York City FC and we are right behind you! COYR.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RooBeck[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Budgie[/bold] wrote: Barrie Parker informed us that Peters Pies were excellent at Wycombe,great info. That was the only good thing to come out of listening to that appeared to be an awful display,one shot on goal all the match. Anyone that had any knowledge of the game would be aware that City would be defeated,half the team are not good enough and never will be.Those who view the team through rose coloured spectacles need to get real.The best answer to keep us in Div.2 is SACK MILLS promptly get a new face in to wake everybody up and someone with a fresh system of play to get us out of our present mess. .[/p][/quote]After the award of their second penalty, it sounded as if Barrie was going to chase after the ref with his microphone and put it somewhere that it hurts!! You've got to hand it to him - he's passionate about City![/p][/quote]And usually way wrong. Those at the game say it was a blatant shirt tug by Fyfield.[/p][/quote]Barrie thought the Wycombe player should have had a yellow car for diving and Chris Jones concurred!! BUT, let's stop all this 'umming' ad 'aarring' and negative vibes and get down to BC on Tuesday night and Saturday afternoon and 'will' this side to a couple of wins - we can do it and the players have to play their part by committing to a 100% effort to the cause! And most importantly, no whining or taciturn fans in the terraces, but lets have some real vocal support for our team and get them over the winning line!! (50+ points). Heads-up and chests-out lads - we are York City FC and we are right behind you! COYR. RooBeck

4:27pm Sun 10 Feb 13

RooBeck says...

A Rolls-Royce!!!!
A Rolls-Royce!!!! RooBeck

5:59pm Sun 10 Feb 13

kirbylad says...

Im sorry Mills must go now city fans have believed in him and his style of playing but with his pride and arrogance despite begging to sign a big striker to help out city have been found out a team of midgets and missfiring forwards for him to change his style of play would be humiliating so i see alot more heavy defeats and relegation or near miss so Jason Mcgill act now and thank Gary for all he has done but we have to look forwards.
Im sorry Mills must go now city fans have believed in him and his style of playing but with his pride and arrogance despite begging to sign a big striker to help out city have been found out a team of midgets and missfiring forwards for him to change his style of play would be humiliating so i see alot more heavy defeats and relegation or near miss so Jason Mcgill act now and thank Gary for all he has done but we have to look forwards. kirbylad

5:59pm Sun 10 Feb 13

kirbylad says...

Im sorry Mills must go now city fans have believed in him and his style of playing but with his pride and arrogance despite begging to sign a big striker to help out city have been found out a team of midgets and missfiring forwards for him to change his style of play would be humiliating so i see alot more heavy defeats and relegation or near miss so Jason Mcgill act now and thank Gary for all he has done but we have to look forwards.
Im sorry Mills must go now city fans have believed in him and his style of playing but with his pride and arrogance despite begging to sign a big striker to help out city have been found out a team of midgets and missfiring forwards for him to change his style of play would be humiliating so i see alot more heavy defeats and relegation or near miss so Jason Mcgill act now and thank Gary for all he has done but we have to look forwards. kirbylad

6:06pm Sun 10 Feb 13

thirsky says...

One thing I think we can all agree with, and that is, of all the managers signings very few have succeeded. I cannot imagine, however, anyone or even a few or all of the favoured few who are allowed to play will not be trying. The fact is that in this league they are not good enough and that is not the players faults. If our budget is tight why do we try and bring anyone in at all. You cannot compare Irish league football as being of the same standard as league 2 and why bring players in and dont play them and why bring a young guy in from another club and exclude an up and promising player of our own. Another worrying aspect is what will happen to the new ground which was said to be not viable if we remained a Blue Star team and having to go part time.
One thing I think we can all agree with, and that is, of all the managers signings very few have succeeded. I cannot imagine, however, anyone or even a few or all of the favoured few who are allowed to play will not be trying. The fact is that in this league they are not good enough and that is not the players faults. If our budget is tight why do we try and bring anyone in at all. You cannot compare Irish league football as being of the same standard as league 2 and why bring players in and dont play them and why bring a young guy in from another club and exclude an up and promising player of our own. Another worrying aspect is what will happen to the new ground which was said to be not viable if we remained a Blue Star team and having to go part time. thirsky

6:26pm Sun 10 Feb 13

york city fc says...

PositiveFootball wrote:
On this team, we fight for that inch
On this team, we tear ourselves, and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We CLAW with our finger nails for that inch. Cause we know
when we add up all those inches
that's going to make the f****** difference between WINNING and LOSING between LIVING and DYING.

I'll tell you this in any fight it is the guy who is willing to die who is going to win that inch. You gotta look at the guy next to you. Look into his eyes.
Now I think you are going to see a guy who will go that inch with you.You are going to see a guy
who will sacrifice himself for this team because he knows when it comes down to it, you are gonna do the same thing for him.

That's a team, gentlemen
and either we heal now, as a team,
or we will die as individuals.
That's football guys

https://www.youtube.

com/watch?v=WO4tIrjB

Dkk
Thanks for the link (much more entertaining than another sack Mills post)- thought something was up yesterday and the walk of shame for the team makes sense. Was it bad to see a smile on GM's face? However I don't know what he's going to make them do after yesterday? How about parading them through Coney Street with their shorts down by their ankles? Who really knows what's going on behind the scenes but panic abuse etc etc and getting rid of GM sounds like a crazy idea. Just got to believe that he is going to deal with it.
[quote][p][bold]PositiveFootball[/bold] wrote: On this team, we fight for that inch On this team, we tear ourselves, and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We CLAW with our finger nails for that inch. Cause we know when we add up all those inches that's going to make the f****** difference between WINNING and LOSING between LIVING and DYING. I'll tell you this in any fight it is the guy who is willing to die who is going to win that inch. You gotta look at the guy next to you. Look into his eyes. Now I think you are going to see a guy who will go that inch with you.You are going to see a guy who will sacrifice himself for this team because he knows when it comes down to it, you are gonna do the same thing for him. That's a team, gentlemen and either we heal now, as a team, or we will die as individuals. That's football guys https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=WO4tIrjB Dkk[/p][/quote]Thanks for the link (much more entertaining than another sack Mills post)- thought something was up yesterday and the walk of shame for the team makes sense. Was it bad to see a smile on GM's face? However I don't know what he's going to make them do after yesterday? How about parading them through Coney Street with their shorts down by their ankles? Who really knows what's going on behind the scenes but panic abuse etc etc and getting rid of GM sounds like a crazy idea. Just got to believe that he is going to deal with it. york city fc

6:26pm Sun 10 Feb 13

John New says...

As an exile I don't see City these days but do read reports and the YEP. What do you want? Most of you are moaning we aren't attacking and that past manager's played too defensive.

I can't see comments suggesting the team attack more are helpful when most posts above say the forwards are useless.

Surely we need everyone to agree firstly stop letting in goals and if that means we park the bus with a 6:4:0 formation and grind out a series of nil nil draws but then stay up so be it.
As an exile I don't see City these days but do read reports and the YEP. What do you want? Most of you are moaning we aren't attacking and that past manager's played too defensive. I can't see comments suggesting the team attack more are helpful when most posts above say the forwards are useless. Surely we need everyone to agree firstly stop letting in goals and if that means we park the bus with a 6:4:0 formation and grind out a series of nil nil draws but then stay up so be it. John New

6:33pm Sun 10 Feb 13

skilly says...

We all have our opinions on the teams problems and what we should do to put it right. I don't believe the chairman will sack Mills as I think he has faith in Mills. The club need to stick together and get back to winning games of football. Sounds easy but it won't be. Micky Adams said on the football league show that on their day any team can beat any other team, thats very true so we CAN go and get the wins we so badly need. The situation is not dire and there will be many teams worrying about their position. We need loads of support on Tuesday & Sat. COYR
We all have our opinions on the teams problems and what we should do to put it right. I don't believe the chairman will sack Mills as I think he has faith in Mills. The club need to stick together and get back to winning games of football. Sounds easy but it won't be. Micky Adams said on the football league show that on their day any team can beat any other team, thats very true so we CAN go and get the wins we so badly need. The situation is not dire and there will be many teams worrying about their position. We need loads of support on Tuesday & Sat. COYR skilly

6:45pm Sun 10 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

According to todays Non League Paper City are keen on Southport forward - Shaun Whalley.
But he is happy at Southport (Sounds like a sensible lad). I refrain from adding the pun - "Not another Whalley".
According to todays Non League Paper City are keen on Southport forward - Shaun Whalley. But he is happy at Southport (Sounds like a sensible lad). I refrain from adding the pun - "Not another Whalley". OLD - HEAD

6:45pm Sun 10 Feb 13

skilly says...

Lineker's Lad wrote:
Usual selection of well-balanced hysteria I see; some of you really should be ashamed of yourselves.
Common sense does occasionally find its way onto here!! But not often!!!
[quote][p][bold]Lineker's Lad[/bold] wrote: Usual selection of well-balanced hysteria I see; some of you really should be ashamed of yourselves.[/p][/quote]Common sense does occasionally find its way onto here!! But not often!!! skilly

7:56pm Sun 10 Feb 13

duffy says...

skilly wrote:
Lineker's Lad wrote:
Usual selection of well-balanced hysteria I see; some of you really should be ashamed of yourselves.
Common sense does occasionally find its way onto here!! But not often!!!
I'm guessing this is mild next to what it will be next Saturday if we lose to Barnet. That would be meltdown.
[quote][p][bold]skilly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lineker's Lad[/bold] wrote: Usual selection of well-balanced hysteria I see; some of you really should be ashamed of yourselves.[/p][/quote]Common sense does occasionally find its way onto here!! But not often!!![/p][/quote]I'm guessing this is mild next to what it will be next Saturday if we lose to Barnet. That would be meltdown. duffy

9:16pm Sun 10 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

duffy wrote:
skilly wrote:
Lineker's Lad wrote:
Usual selection of well-balanced hysteria I see; some of you really should be ashamed of yourselves.
Common sense does occasionally find its way onto here!! But not often!!!
I'm guessing this is mild next to what it will be next Saturday if we lose to Barnet. That would be meltdown.
It will be before that if we get beat by Gillingham and play very poor. If we beat Gillingham it might gloss over the recent run but in my eyes there is still big problems.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skilly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lineker's Lad[/bold] wrote: Usual selection of well-balanced hysteria I see; some of you really should be ashamed of yourselves.[/p][/quote]Common sense does occasionally find its way onto here!! But not often!!![/p][/quote]I'm guessing this is mild next to what it will be next Saturday if we lose to Barnet. That would be meltdown.[/p][/quote]It will be before that if we get beat by Gillingham and play very poor. If we beat Gillingham it might gloss over the recent run but in my eyes there is still big problems. Helliwell's Not a Donkey

9:34pm Sun 10 Feb 13

ADAMCUTHBERT says...

For thee first time in all the years I've followed City I actually felt embarrassed watching the dire display that was on show!

Completely outplayed, out-muscled and out-witted by a far superior side who in truth didn't even have to play that well to grab the 3 points!

I can't see where our next win will come from! Worried? **** rite I am! Some serious changes required to sort this mess we're in!

Next 2 games are huge!

COYR
For thee first time in all the years I've followed City I actually felt embarrassed watching the dire display that was on show! Completely outplayed, out-muscled and out-witted by a far superior side who in truth didn't even have to play that well to grab the 3 points! I can't see where our next win will come from! Worried? **** rite I am! Some serious changes required to sort this mess we're in! Next 2 games are huge! COYR ADAMCUTHBERT

10:46pm Sun 10 Feb 13

PhilR@Strike says...

ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:
For thee first time in all the years I've followed City I actually felt embarrassed watching the dire display that was on show!

Completely outplayed, out-muscled and out-witted by a far superior side who in truth didn't even have to play that well to grab the 3 points!

I can't see where our next win will come from! Worried? **** rite I am! Some serious changes required to sort this mess we're in!

Next 2 games are huge!

COYR
Agreed with everything you've said Adams, but having to disagree about Wycombe not having to play that well? Being a York fan who lives down this way, Ive seen Wycombe a few times this year and have to say from the start they gave 110%! Really upped their game and gave their all! Mind their new manager demands they play that way and afraid York just couldn't match them for effort and sheer will to win? Crying shame to watch!
[quote][p][bold]ADAMCUTHBERT[/bold] wrote: For thee first time in all the years I've followed City I actually felt embarrassed watching the dire display that was on show! Completely outplayed, out-muscled and out-witted by a far superior side who in truth didn't even have to play that well to grab the 3 points! I can't see where our next win will come from! Worried? **** rite I am! Some serious changes required to sort this mess we're in! Next 2 games are huge! COYR[/p][/quote]Agreed with everything you've said Adams, but having to disagree about Wycombe not having to play that well? Being a York fan who lives down this way, Ive seen Wycombe a few times this year and have to say from the start they gave 110%! Really upped their game and gave their all! Mind their new manager demands they play that way and afraid York just couldn't match them for effort and sheer will to win? Crying shame to watch! PhilR@Strike

11:21pm Sun 10 Feb 13

York Manor says...

Football is won in two boxes, you are meant to stop goals going in at one end and score goals at the other. It is not won by passing the ball around in the middle. At the moment we are passing the ball about in the middle, it may look good to some but if you fail to do what football is all about, stop goals going in your net and sticking it in your opponents net you are in trouble. Most people can see that has been the case for a long time. Come on Garry get it sorted.
Football is won in two boxes, you are meant to stop goals going in at one end and score goals at the other. It is not won by passing the ball around in the middle. At the moment we are passing the ball about in the middle, it may look good to some but if you fail to do what football is all about, stop goals going in your net and sticking it in your opponents net you are in trouble. Most people can see that has been the case for a long time. Come on Garry get it sorted. York Manor

10:23am Mon 11 Feb 13

Southern Exile says...

Can't help but think that making the players walk the last part of the journey would have anything other than a negative impact. Surely it would but them in a down mood and contemplating on the previous game? We need some positive motivation from manager and key players, who is going to step up to the mark?
Can't help but think that making the players walk the last part of the journey would have anything other than a negative impact. Surely it would but them in a down mood and contemplating on the previous game? We need some positive motivation from manager and key players, who is going to step up to the mark? Southern Exile

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