York City crash 4-1 at home to Morecambe in npower League Two

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YORK City conceded two late goals as they crashed 4-1 at home to Morecambe in npower League Two.

The sides were locked at 1-1 at the interval at Bootham Crescent, but the hosts shipped a sloppy goal to trail 2-1 and leaked two further goals as they chased the game late on.

The Minstermen were punished for failing to clear the ball just inside their own half when Lewis Alessandra netted the opener for Morecambe on 23 minutes.

However, City top scorer Jason Walker levelled from the penalty spot five minutes later as the sides turned around at 1-1.

Chances were traded around the hour mark, with Paddy McLaughlin seeing his shot smartly saved by Morecambe 'keeper Barry Roche before Kevin Ellison crashed a shot in off the underside of the bar only for the effort to be ruled out for offside.

City full-back Dan Parslow had his sidefooted strike cleared off the line by Ellison, who then pounced on a slip by York 'keeper Michael Ingham to put the visitors back in front on 74 minutes.

The Minstermen threw captain Chris Smith forward in the closing minutes, but paid the price at the back as Jack Redshaw struck twice on the break, scoring in the 87th and 90th minutes.

On-loan Swansea right-back Curtis Obeng made his full debut for the hosts, while Irish striker David McDaid was given his first run-out as a second half substitute.

The defeat leaves Gary Mills' men in 17th place in the table, eight points clear of the relegation zone.

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5:40pm Sat 2 Feb 13

legend7 says...

that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!! legend7
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5:41pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Theapplesarecoming says...

One of those days , we can draw with gillingham one week as lose 4.1 to morcambe the next , lets move on
One of those days , we can draw with gillingham one week as lose 4.1 to morcambe the next , lets move on Theapplesarecoming
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5:44pm Sat 2 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

Very poor today, could have gone either way at half time - but the way it did go was disgraceful. Ingham made too many mistakes and needs to work on controlling his area (even controlling his 6 yard box in some cases), and the defense HAVE to stop casually playing the ball around the back. I thought Blair, Walker and Rodman were doing pretty well today, but they were getting nothing from the negative, scared looking defense/ midfield. Ok, 4-1 flattered Morecambe a bit, but whichever way you look at it we were soundly beaten by a very average side. Too early for any 'Mills out' talk for me - last week we got a great result against Gillingham remember - but the attitude at home needs sorting out quickly.
Very poor today, could have gone either way at half time - but the way it did go was disgraceful. Ingham made too many mistakes and needs to work on controlling his area (even controlling his 6 yard box in some cases), and the defense HAVE to stop casually playing the ball around the back. I thought Blair, Walker and Rodman were doing pretty well today, but they were getting nothing from the negative, scared looking defense/ midfield. Ok, 4-1 flattered Morecambe a bit, but whichever way you look at it we were soundly beaten by a very average side. Too early for any 'Mills out' talk for me - last week we got a great result against Gillingham remember - but the attitude at home needs sorting out quickly. YorkCityLuke
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5:48pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Ycfc85 says...

Mills out?! Haha. He's working wonders on our budget. Maybe we should get another dinosaur like Dolan in to play hoofball. It's a bad result but let's not get silly.
Mills out?! Haha. He's working wonders on our budget. Maybe we should get another dinosaur like Dolan in to play hoofball. It's a bad result but let's not get silly. Ycfc85
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5:48pm Sat 2 Feb 13

barcooter says...

great signings.
great signings. barcooter
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5:49pm Sat 2 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of. redbluelion
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5:53pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Dortmun says...

legend7 wrote:
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!
What a pratt (related?)
[quote][p][bold]legend7[/bold] wrote: that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!![/p][/quote]What a pratt (related?) Dortmun
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5:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Dortmun says...

redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.
You are totally entitled to not go and instead work overtime.
But "mills out" is totally otp
[quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.[/p][/quote]You are totally entitled to not go and instead work overtime. But "mills out" is totally otp Dortmun
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5:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13

bartsimmo says...

Ycfc85 wrote:
Mills out?! Haha. He's working wonders on our budget. Maybe we should get another dinosaur like Dolan in to play hoofball. It's a bad result but let's not get silly.
But to be fair Dolan did very well alot better than Mills with even harder off the field troubles. Was definitely a wrong decision to get rid of him by the board when they did.
Would like to see Mills stop being stubborn and try other tactics because it is not working. We are getting nearer to the bottom every week. Yes Gills draw was a good result but how many of the other 12 draws this season were good draws not to mention the disappointing defeats to lower teams.

Mills has been found out this season so much for his comments at Christmas saying he now knows what it takes to get promoted and if it is not this season will be the next! I am sorry I dont have that faith in you Mills. Last season you did well but there was an awful lot of luck along the way.

Change your stubborness or get out so we can keep our football league status that you worked so hard to get for us. The board have to remember it doesnt matter what has been done in the past it is what is being done now. Sentiments lead to relegation!
[quote][p][bold]Ycfc85[/bold] wrote: Mills out?! Haha. He's working wonders on our budget. Maybe we should get another dinosaur like Dolan in to play hoofball. It's a bad result but let's not get silly.[/p][/quote]But to be fair Dolan did very well alot better than Mills with even harder off the field troubles. Was definitely a wrong decision to get rid of him by the board when they did. Would like to see Mills stop being stubborn and try other tactics because it is not working. We are getting nearer to the bottom every week. Yes Gills draw was a good result but how many of the other 12 draws this season were good draws not to mention the disappointing defeats to lower teams. Mills has been found out this season so much for his comments at Christmas saying he now knows what it takes to get promoted and if it is not this season will be the next! I am sorry I dont have that faith in you Mills. Last season you did well but there was an awful lot of luck along the way. Change your stubborness or get out so we can keep our football league status that you worked so hard to get for us. The board have to remember it doesnt matter what has been done in the past it is what is being done now. Sentiments lead to relegation! bartsimmo
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5:57pm Sat 2 Feb 13

redblueblur says...

Im losing faith in mills,he needs to sort this out.we are getting worse.the players and mills should hang there heads in shame..im not calling for the head of mills yet,but i am close to it.
Im losing faith in mills,he needs to sort this out.we are getting worse.the players and mills should hang there heads in shame..im not calling for the head of mills yet,but i am close to it. redblueblur
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5:59pm Sat 2 Feb 13

legend7 says...

Dortmun wrote:
legend7 wrote:
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!
What a pratt (related?)
not related. mills has ruined this season, yes he was great last year and got the job done, however, this year started so promisingly and were challenging for the play offs/promotion and now we are heading into a relegation battle especially after permanence's like today. best solution change the manager.
[quote][p][bold]Dortmun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]legend7[/bold] wrote: that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!![/p][/quote]What a pratt (related?)[/p][/quote]not related. mills has ruined this season, yes he was great last year and got the job done, however, this year started so promisingly and were challenging for the play offs/promotion and now we are heading into a relegation battle especially after permanence's like today. best solution change the manager. legend7
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6:01pm Sat 2 Feb 13

uhtred says...

ah well Luton lost, so not a totally bad day!
ah well Luton lost, so not a totally bad day! uhtred
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6:03pm Sat 2 Feb 13

duffy says...

The team as a whole are now really struggling at home. I agree with Luke, way too much negative sideways and back passing with the whole of the back line including Ingham struggling. Yet again I'm baffled by both the substitutions and where Mills is playing players at times.We continue to do what we have all season, miss decent chances and give away daft goals. It's ok some yet again stating its a bad day at the office and a blip but thats now 3 wins out of the last 18 in all competitions and today for the first time I do find myself thinking we might just find ourselves dragged into a relegation fight. The crowds are dropping and most had left today before the final whistle.
The team as a whole are now really struggling at home. I agree with Luke, way too much negative sideways and back passing with the whole of the back line including Ingham struggling. Yet again I'm baffled by both the substitutions and where Mills is playing players at times.We continue to do what we have all season, miss decent chances and give away daft goals. It's ok some yet again stating its a bad day at the office and a blip but thats now 3 wins out of the last 18 in all competitions and today for the first time I do find myself thinking we might just find ourselves dragged into a relegation fight. The crowds are dropping and most had left today before the final whistle. duffy
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6:04pm Sat 2 Feb 13

PhilR@Strike says...

What's going on? We loan in two premiership players and promptly allow four goals in? (Five if you count the disallowed one) Should we be sticking to our own squad? Seriously wondering whether to go to the Wycombe game next week now? :(
What's going on? We loan in two premiership players and promptly allow four goals in? (Five if you count the disallowed one) Should we be sticking to our own squad? Seriously wondering whether to go to the Wycombe game next week now? :( PhilR@Strike
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6:07pm Sat 2 Feb 13

THETELLEROFTALES says...

If Gary Mills has something to prove at this level he better get on with it.
The performance against Morecambe was poor at best.
I did not pay £16 to get in to the Longhurst Stand and watch Ingham having a laugh and a joke with the Morecambe forward.Totally unprofesional and when Ingham gifted them their second goal it was the same Morecambe forward that stroked it in to an unguarded net. Who had the last laugh Ingham?

I also was disappointed to see Mills stick Smith in the forward line late on in the game in a shambolic attempt to recue a point. Not only was Reed available on the bench but this reshuffle caused confusion in a defence that was at least ok for most of the game.

The end result was directly attributable to Mills buggering things up.
If Gary Mills has something to prove at this level he better get on with it. The performance against Morecambe was poor at best. I did not pay £16 to get in to the Longhurst Stand and watch Ingham having a laugh and a joke with the Morecambe forward.Totally unprofesional and when Ingham gifted them their second goal it was the same Morecambe forward that stroked it in to an unguarded net. Who had the last laugh Ingham? I also was disappointed to see Mills stick Smith in the forward line late on in the game in a shambolic attempt to recue a point. Not only was Reed available on the bench but this reshuffle caused confusion in a defence that was at least ok for most of the game. The end result was directly attributable to Mills buggering things up. THETELLEROFTALES
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6:07pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Bert brennan says...

Too many missed chances, to many defensive errors, Mr. Mills has had several weeks to bring in a "striker"
Smith in a forward role is not the answer. In my view this game was thrown away. Mr. Mills your players are failing to acomplish the basic football skills, you are in charge, do your job, please.
Too many missed chances, to many defensive errors, Mr. Mills has had several weeks to bring in a "striker" Smith in a forward role is not the answer. In my view this game was thrown away. Mr. Mills your players are failing to acomplish the basic football skills, you are in charge, do your job, please. Bert brennan
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6:10pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Mickey T says...

legend7 wrote:
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!
Not a lagend but a Knob!!!
[quote][p][bold]legend7[/bold] wrote: that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!![/p][/quote]Not a lagend but a Knob!!! Mickey T
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6:11pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Mickey T says...

redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.
Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?
[quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.[/p][/quote]Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered? Mickey T
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6:15pm Sat 2 Feb 13

THETELLEROFTALES says...

Forgot to mention. Make no mistake, a relegation struggle is now very real.

It's the elephant in the room...and the number of players York have on their books suggest the wage bill must be astronomic.
All that and the gate figures are slipping due to the dire, turgid, home games.

Dog day afternoon...again.
Forgot to mention. Make no mistake, a relegation struggle is now very real. It's the elephant in the room...and the number of players York have on their books suggest the wage bill must be astronomic. All that and the gate figures are slipping due to the dire, turgid, home games. Dog day afternoon...again. THETELLEROFTALES
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6:23pm Sat 2 Feb 13

minstermen says...

Mcgurk on the bench again!! when he came back in the team a few games ago he made a big diffrence to the defence looks now that we are back to square one think the aim now is to battle and try and keep our great club in the football league ,did have a little smirk at luton tho
Mcgurk on the bench again!! when he came back in the team a few games ago he made a big diffrence to the defence looks now that we are back to square one think the aim now is to battle and try and keep our great club in the football league ,did have a little smirk at luton tho minstermen
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6:23pm Sat 2 Feb 13

duffy says...

Mickey T wrote:
redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.
Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?
The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.
[quote][p][bold]Mickey T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.[/p][/quote]Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?[/p][/quote]The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income. duffy
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6:29pm Sat 2 Feb 13

legend7 says...

Mickey T wrote:
legend7 wrote:
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!
Not a lagend but a Knob!!!
yeah not lagend its legend #whosaknob!!!
[quote][p][bold]Mickey T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]legend7[/bold] wrote: that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!![/p][/quote]Not a lagend but a Knob!!![/p][/quote]yeah not lagend its legend #whosaknob!!! legend7
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6:29pm Sat 2 Feb 13

TheBurton says...

People calling for Mills to go is ridiculous!
Got us promoted from the Conference and won the FA Trophy last year and now we are having a few bad performances and suddenly people want a change of manager. Its not the answer. We aren't Chelsea. Keep the faith in the team.
People calling for Mills to go is ridiculous! Got us promoted from the Conference and won the FA Trophy last year and now we are having a few bad performances and suddenly people want a change of manager. Its not the answer. We aren't Chelsea. Keep the faith in the team. TheBurton
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6:33pm Sat 2 Feb 13

bartsimmo says...

duffy wrote:
Mickey T wrote:
redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.
Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?
The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.
Well one wage that can definitely go is Des Lyttle's! I mean seriously what has he done this season? He is supposed to be a defensive coach yet our defence this season is more shocking than last season. Preferably all 3 of the management out though before it is too late!
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mickey T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.[/p][/quote]Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?[/p][/quote]The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.[/p][/quote]Well one wage that can definitely go is Des Lyttle's! I mean seriously what has he done this season? He is supposed to be a defensive coach yet our defence this season is more shocking than last season. Preferably all 3 of the management out though before it is too late! bartsimmo
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6:34pm Sat 2 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

TheBurton wrote:
People calling for Mills to go is ridiculous!
Got us promoted from the Conference and won the FA Trophy last year and now we are having a few bad performances and suddenly people want a change of manager. Its not the answer. We aren't Chelsea. Keep the faith in the team.
Agreed. But he does need to come up with some new ideas to keep us out of trouble.
[quote][p][bold]TheBurton[/bold] wrote: People calling for Mills to go is ridiculous! Got us promoted from the Conference and won the FA Trophy last year and now we are having a few bad performances and suddenly people want a change of manager. Its not the answer. We aren't Chelsea. Keep the faith in the team.[/p][/quote]Agreed. But he does need to come up with some new ideas to keep us out of trouble. YorkCityLuke
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6:35pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Realistic ycfc says...

Disgraceful, we are slipping and slipping, it's time Millsy stopped using this ineffective diamond formation, as I said a couple of weeks back some players in this team have been found out as not good enough for this level, needs to change and fast and I suggest this starts with GM growing a pair and realising his loyalty to a few of these players has to end for the sake of this club, if we slip down to conference level again it will be the death of this club
Disgraceful, we are slipping and slipping, it's time Millsy stopped using this ineffective diamond formation, as I said a couple of weeks back some players in this team have been found out as not good enough for this level, needs to change and fast and I suggest this starts with GM growing a pair and realising his loyalty to a few of these players has to end for the sake of this club, if we slip down to conference level again it will be the death of this club Realistic ycfc
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6:38pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Realistic ycfc says...

minstermen wrote:
Mcgurk on the bench again!! when he came back in the team a few games ago he made a big diffrence to the defence looks now that we are back to square one think the aim now is to battle and try and keep our great club in the football league ,did have a little smirk at luton tho
What is it with some of our fans worrying obsession with luton? Concentrate on our team rather than someone else who frankly don't matter to us
[quote][p][bold]minstermen[/bold] wrote: Mcgurk on the bench again!! when he came back in the team a few games ago he made a big diffrence to the defence looks now that we are back to square one think the aim now is to battle and try and keep our great club in the football league ,did have a little smirk at luton tho[/p][/quote]What is it with some of our fans worrying obsession with luton? Concentrate on our team rather than someone else who frankly don't matter to us Realistic ycfc
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6:40pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Mickey T says...

legend7 wrote:
Mickey T wrote:
legend7 wrote:
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!
Not a lagend but a Knob!!!
yeah not lagend its legend #whosaknob!!!
just a typing error lad. Calm down and don't get excited.
[quote][p][bold]legend7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mickey T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]legend7[/bold] wrote: that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!![/p][/quote]Not a lagend but a Knob!!![/p][/quote]yeah not lagend its legend #whosaknob!!![/p][/quote]just a typing error lad. Calm down and don't get excited. Mickey T
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6:45pm Sat 2 Feb 13

joejamestom says...

legend7 wrote:
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!
Fool!!!
City have a look of a team made up of lightweight mid fielders with a hold up man up front & when no one is in form banging in the goals then we struggle & end up chasing games.
The point I am happy to concede is that Smudger (GMs pet name not mine) up front really is an act of desperation too far, Danny, Fyfield anyone else please! he should have been left at CB to make sure we did not get opened up. I would expect GM is smarting from this one & will put in some graft this was a game dying for a Brodie type of player to chase balls into the box alas too pricey for us.
Definitely a plan B required.
Still behind you GM but this one hurt,
Cmon City!!!
[quote][p][bold]legend7[/bold] wrote: that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!![/p][/quote]Fool!!! City have a look of a team made up of lightweight mid fielders with a hold up man up front & when no one is in form banging in the goals then we struggle & end up chasing games. The point I am happy to concede is that Smudger (GMs pet name not mine) up front really is an act of desperation too far, Danny, Fyfield anyone else please! he should have been left at CB to make sure we did not get opened up. I would expect GM is smarting from this one & will put in some graft this was a game dying for a Brodie type of player to chase balls into the box alas too pricey for us. Definitely a plan B required. Still behind you GM but this one hurt, Cmon City!!! joejamestom
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6:46pm Sat 2 Feb 13

RooBeck says...

Our balance throughout was wrong and maybe too many debutants and for the umpteenth time at home this season, we were bossed and bullied out of the game by a physical team. We need more grit and steel, especially at this time of the season when the pitches(particularly ours!!) are a bit heavy/uneven and do not always lend themselves to an intricate passing game. BUT, the main problem remains and is simple - we do not have a quality striker to find the back of the net and the missed second-half efforts today by Paddy MacLaughlin and Danny Parslow summed this up when their half-hearted shots would have been "buried" by a decent striker. I say adapt an attacking system that gives David McDaid a chance to lead the line and lets see if he can end this drought. We should now move on and try to put this dogs-dinner behind us BUT we need to have a steadier Back Four and so lets see Dave McGurk returning and to pair-up again with Chris Smith and Jamal Fyfield back at left-back and perhaps, Danny Parslow in at right-back and with a good knowledge of each other's game, steady the ship. I liked the look of young John MacReady and maybe we should rest Michael Potts, who ran out of steam and ideas, and give this ex-Darlo lad a go. Ingham, Kerr, MacLaughlin, Walker, Blair and Rodman have all got to show a marked improvement on their efforts today and our loanees might just have to wait a while to get back in the starting XI. Wycombe and Gillingham are now big games and we must look to gain at least four points from them and avoid slipping into a relegation fight.COYR.
Our balance throughout was wrong and maybe too many debutants and for the umpteenth time at home this season, we were bossed and bullied out of the game by a physical team. We need more grit and steel, especially at this time of the season when the pitches(particularly ours!!) are a bit heavy/uneven and do not always lend themselves to an intricate passing game. BUT, the main problem remains and is simple - we do not have a quality striker to find the back of the net and the missed second-half efforts today by Paddy MacLaughlin and Danny Parslow summed this up when their half-hearted shots would have been "buried" by a decent striker. I say adapt an attacking system that gives David McDaid a chance to lead the line and lets see if he can end this drought. We should now move on and try to put this dogs-dinner behind us BUT we need to have a steadier Back Four and so lets see Dave McGurk returning and to pair-up again with Chris Smith and Jamal Fyfield back at left-back and perhaps, Danny Parslow in at right-back and with a good knowledge of each other's game, steady the ship. I liked the look of young John MacReady and maybe we should rest Michael Potts, who ran out of steam and ideas, and give this ex-Darlo lad a go. Ingham, Kerr, MacLaughlin, Walker, Blair and Rodman have all got to show a marked improvement on their efforts today and our loanees might just have to wait a while to get back in the starting XI. Wycombe and Gillingham are now big games and we must look to gain at least four points from them and avoid slipping into a relegation fight.COYR. RooBeck
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6:48pm Sat 2 Feb 13

YCFC115 says...

bartsimmo wrote:
Ycfc85 wrote:
Mills out?! Haha. He's working wonders on our budget. Maybe we should get another dinosaur like Dolan in to play hoofball. It's a bad result but let's not get silly.
But to be fair Dolan did very well alot better than Mills with even harder off the field troubles. Was definitely a wrong decision to get rid of him by the board when they did.
Would like to see Mills stop being stubborn and try other tactics because it is not working. We are getting nearer to the bottom every week. Yes Gills draw was a good result but how many of the other 12 draws this season were good draws not to mention the disappointing defeats to lower teams.

Mills has been found out this season so much for his comments at Christmas saying he now knows what it takes to get promoted and if it is not this season will be the next! I am sorry I dont have that faith in you Mills. Last season you did well but there was an awful lot of luck along the way.

Change your stubborness or get out so we can keep our football league status that you worked so hard to get for us. The board have to remember it doesnt matter what has been done in the past it is what is being done now. Sentiments lead to relegation!
Couldn't agree more. Although we have been unlucky with injuries and we obviously have no money left to borrow off bank of McGills.
[quote][p][bold]bartsimmo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ycfc85[/bold] wrote: Mills out?! Haha. He's working wonders on our budget. Maybe we should get another dinosaur like Dolan in to play hoofball. It's a bad result but let's not get silly.[/p][/quote]But to be fair Dolan did very well alot better than Mills with even harder off the field troubles. Was definitely a wrong decision to get rid of him by the board when they did. Would like to see Mills stop being stubborn and try other tactics because it is not working. We are getting nearer to the bottom every week. Yes Gills draw was a good result but how many of the other 12 draws this season were good draws not to mention the disappointing defeats to lower teams. Mills has been found out this season so much for his comments at Christmas saying he now knows what it takes to get promoted and if it is not this season will be the next! I am sorry I dont have that faith in you Mills. Last season you did well but there was an awful lot of luck along the way. Change your stubborness or get out so we can keep our football league status that you worked so hard to get for us. The board have to remember it doesnt matter what has been done in the past it is what is being done now. Sentiments lead to relegation![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. Although we have been unlucky with injuries and we obviously have no money left to borrow off bank of McGills. YCFC115
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6:53pm Sat 2 Feb 13

bertieb says...

Desperate performance today. I cannot believe McGurk and Reed were left on the bench. There is a thin line betwen confidence and arrogance, between strength and pig-headedness and I'm afraid Gary Mills is crossing it with his blinkered adherence to 4-3-3 and his favouritism re the dreadful Chris Smith.It's too early to say Mills out but I fear our manager shows no sign of learning from his mistakes.
Desperate performance today. I cannot believe McGurk and Reed were left on the bench. There is a thin line betwen confidence and arrogance, between strength and pig-headedness and I'm afraid Gary Mills is crossing it with his blinkered adherence to 4-3-3 and his favouritism re the dreadful Chris Smith.It's too early to say Mills out but I fear our manager shows no sign of learning from his mistakes. bertieb
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6:59pm Sat 2 Feb 13

YCFC115 says...

Would love to see John Ward back at the club, just look what he's done at Bristol Rovers in a matter of weeks?
Just saying!
Would love to see John Ward back at the club, just look what he's done at Bristol Rovers in a matter of weeks? Just saying! YCFC115
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7:01pm Sat 2 Feb 13

duffy says...

Could someone please explain to me how Chris Smith is a better alternative up front than Reed ?
Could someone please explain to me how Chris Smith is a better alternative up front than Reed ? duffy
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7:21pm Sat 2 Feb 13

johnboy2882 says...

gary mills took us up from the conference we do not want to go back there why dont we play 442 the formtion we play does not work one point the only job mills has had in the football league notts county they were relagated
gary mills took us up from the conference we do not want to go back there why dont we play 442 the formtion we play does not work one point the only job mills has had in the football league notts county they were relagated johnboy2882
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7:30pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

Can someone give Mills a tape measure when he signs players. All but 3 of the Morecambe players were a good 6'+ and thats been the same with other opposite teams. Can someone tell Mills to pack it in with his stupid tactical changes, the players must be bewildered when he changes defenders it to strikers. Can comeone tell Mills to get his head out of his a**e when it comes to tippy-tappy football, when we got into their half we seemed to stop going forward and went sideways and the backwards thou's causing Morcambe to get back and defend. The main cause of this backwards play is Scott Kerr. I've said it time and time again Walker is not a target/holder up of the ball man, anyway 100% of the time he lose's it or he ends up on the floor.
The Wycombe games worrying me now, defeat there and at home to Gillingham and I'd say we are in deep s**t.
Can someone give Mills a tape measure when he signs players. All but 3 of the Morecambe players were a good 6'+ and thats been the same with other opposite teams. Can someone tell Mills to pack it in with his stupid tactical changes, the players must be bewildered when he changes defenders it to strikers. Can comeone tell Mills to get his head out of his a**e when it comes to tippy-tappy football, when we got into their half we seemed to stop going forward and went sideways and the backwards thou's causing Morcambe to get back and defend. The main cause of this backwards play is Scott Kerr. I've said it time and time again Walker is not a target/holder up of the ball man, anyway 100% of the time he lose's it or he ends up on the floor. The Wycombe games worrying me now, defeat there and at home to Gillingham and I'd say we are in deep s**t. Helliwell's Not a Donkey
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7:35pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

duffy wrote:
Could someone please explain to me how Chris Smith is a better alternative up front than Reed ?
Because Chris Smith is the love child of Mills
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: Could someone please explain to me how Chris Smith is a better alternative up front than Reed ?[/p][/quote]Because Chris Smith is the love child of Mills Helliwell's Not a Donkey
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7:38pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Dortmun says...

duffy wrote:
Could someone please explain to me how Chris Smith is a better alternative up front than Reed ?
If anyone can they are off their head duffy.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: Could someone please explain to me how Chris Smith is a better alternative up front than Reed ?[/p][/quote]If anyone can they are off their head duffy. Dortmun
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7:45pm Sat 2 Feb 13

bill bailey says...

Where is the lad that came from Iceland? ,getting fit,?on holiday.?watching youtube ? .a couple of weeks ago i mentioned a lad i know James Keane,he plays in Sweden in their top league,he could have come here instead Portsmouth signed him for a month,he played his first match today and scored,need i say more.
Where is the lad that came from Iceland? ,getting fit,?on holiday.?watching youtube ? .a couple of weeks ago i mentioned a lad i know James Keane,he plays in Sweden in their top league,he could have come here instead Portsmouth signed him for a month,he played his first match today and scored,need i say more. bill bailey
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7:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13

roobarb85 says...

Thought I'd wait until the window closed to see what GM came up with.

What a let down. We've now got a misfit bunch of half a dozen half fit and half hearted centre backs, and a collection of identikit mid fielders, and still no pressure on the GK shirt.
The big need was a striker - and so we've got a reject from Iceland, who can't even make the bench, someone of similar calibre from Ireland, an Aldershot reserve, and if Johnson starts a meaningful game I'll be amazed.

Even when we're chasing the game, instead of putting a striker on you put a centre half up front and change the defence yet again. If you're not going to play Reed send him out to Taddy Albion/Harrogate so he can remember what 90 mins of action and goalscoring is all about.

And I don't see how we're so skint - v few other teams at this level can have had a successful 11/12 as YCFC had, and our home gates are above average for the league
Too late now to get a new manager in, and I think we'll scrape together enough points to stay up.
But given the disasterous recruitment policy of the last 2 windows and the inability to change style when needed, a new sign on the manager's door looks favourite in June
Thought I'd wait until the window closed to see what GM came up with. What a let down. We've now got a misfit bunch of half a dozen half fit and half hearted centre backs, and a collection of identikit mid fielders, and still no pressure on the GK shirt. The big need was a striker - and so we've got a reject from Iceland, who can't even make the bench, someone of similar calibre from Ireland, an Aldershot reserve, and if Johnson starts a meaningful game I'll be amazed. Even when we're chasing the game, instead of putting a striker on you put a centre half up front and change the defence yet again. If you're not going to play Reed send him out to Taddy Albion/Harrogate so he can remember what 90 mins of action and goalscoring is all about. And I don't see how we're so skint - v few other teams at this level can have had a successful 11/12 as YCFC had, and our home gates are above average for the league Too late now to get a new manager in, and I think we'll scrape together enough points to stay up. But given the disasterous recruitment policy of the last 2 windows and the inability to change style when needed, a new sign on the manager's door looks favourite in June roobarb85
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8:01pm Sat 2 Feb 13

ADAMCUTHBERT says...

Oh dear! Where do I start? Is Everson injured or out on loan already? Another astute signing!

It's all very well scraping the odd point against the teams above us but now isn't the time to be looking so toothless and inept at home! Forget the play offs! Survival is key!
Oh dear! Where do I start? Is Everson injured or out on loan already? Another astute signing! It's all very well scraping the odd point against the teams above us but now isn't the time to be looking so toothless and inept at home! Forget the play offs! Survival is key! ADAMCUTHBERT
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8:02pm Sat 2 Feb 13

joeya96YCFC says...

How many more poor home performances do we have to suffer before the tactics are changed? It's obvious Walker is not good enough on his own up front in this league so why does Mills continue with it?
Why sign McDaid - another player lacking the height, strength and the sharpness we need to be able to compete against big strong defenders?
We always seem to be second to the ball and too easily get muscled off - Blair especially today lost possession far too easily when tackled. We are light weight throughout the team so why do we always seem to recruit similar types when it is clear we need strength and height up front and in the back four?
A comfortable easy afternoon for the Morecambe defence today, their goalie only had one save of any note - a block from McLaughlin in the 2nd half. Shortly after Parslow only tapped towards goal when free to score but don't really blame him because he had a decent game and where were our forwards in such a situation? Reed would have hammered that into the back of the net Mr Mills!!
One worrying thing today was that after Ingham's error for their second goal our heads seemed to drop and it was no surprise to see us concede two more.
Thought McReady looked good when he came on - showed some much needed spark and impetus into a weary midfield.
We have some tough games at home against teams needing points at the top - Gillingham, Bradford, Southend, Port Vale and also against teams needing points to avoid the drop - Plymouth, Barnet and given our home form so far I cannot see a win unless so we get things sorted quickly.
How many more poor home performances do we have to suffer before the tactics are changed? It's obvious Walker is not good enough on his own up front in this league so why does Mills continue with it? Why sign McDaid - another player lacking the height, strength and the sharpness we need to be able to compete against big strong defenders? We always seem to be second to the ball and too easily get muscled off - Blair especially today lost possession far too easily when tackled. We are light weight throughout the team so why do we always seem to recruit similar types when it is clear we need strength and height up front and in the back four? A comfortable easy afternoon for the Morecambe defence today, their goalie only had one save of any note - a block from McLaughlin in the 2nd half. Shortly after Parslow only tapped towards goal when free to score but don't really blame him because he had a decent game and where were our forwards in such a situation? Reed would have hammered that into the back of the net Mr Mills!! One worrying thing today was that after Ingham's error for their second goal our heads seemed to drop and it was no surprise to see us concede two more. Thought McReady looked good when he came on - showed some much needed spark and impetus into a weary midfield. We have some tough games at home against teams needing points at the top - Gillingham, Bradford, Southend, Port Vale and also against teams needing points to avoid the drop - Plymouth, Barnet and given our home form so far I cannot see a win unless so we get things sorted quickly. joeya96YCFC
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8:05pm Sat 2 Feb 13

andy jamo says...

lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.
lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future. andy jamo
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8:09pm Sat 2 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

No excuses today - Morecambe deserved to win the game. They were not a great team, but they certainly made us look very poor. Frustrating to watch City tip-tap the ball around only to finish up giving it away. Morecambe always looked dangerous on the break. Unlike us, for we have no physical presence up front, (something we have been saying all season). But still the Manager persists with the same policy of playing Walker as a target man. I was completely gutted after todays match, and needed time to think before posting my comments. But honestly I am now beginning to wonder if we have the players to put it right.
No excuses today - Morecambe deserved to win the game. They were not a great team, but they certainly made us look very poor. Frustrating to watch City tip-tap the ball around only to finish up giving it away. Morecambe always looked dangerous on the break. Unlike us, for we have no physical presence up front, (something we have been saying all season). But still the Manager persists with the same policy of playing Walker as a target man. I was completely gutted after todays match, and needed time to think before posting my comments. But honestly I am now beginning to wonder if we have the players to put it right. OLD - HEAD
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8:10pm Sat 2 Feb 13

van the man says...

duffy wrote:
Mickey T wrote:
redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.
Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?
The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.
So you have to ask yourself, how long will the Mcgills put up with falling gate receipts because of the poor home performances, the product they are selling at the moment is awful, and even the die hards may choose to spend there hard erned cash elsewere.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mickey T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.[/p][/quote]Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?[/p][/quote]The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.[/p][/quote]So you have to ask yourself, how long will the Mcgills put up with falling gate receipts because of the poor home performances, the product they are selling at the moment is awful, and even the die hards may choose to spend there hard erned cash elsewere. van the man
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8:17pm Sat 2 Feb 13

johnno65 says...

i live in Darlington took the wife and kids today thinkig it would be a good game and 1 we should win, how wrong i was, not a bad first half o'conell looked good Danny and Rodman played well but the rest really struggled, potts and walker need resting and give Mcready and Elerson a run, TYin again, something is sadly wrong at BC no singing, no confidence and a real lack of belief. Fingers crossed we get enough points to be safe, then rebuild for next season. Any news about the new stadium? I feel we all need a real lift.
i live in Darlington took the wife and kids today thinkig it would be a good game and 1 we should win, how wrong i was, not a bad first half o'conell looked good Danny and Rodman played well but the rest really struggled, potts and walker need resting and give Mcready and Elerson a run, TYin again, something is sadly wrong at BC no singing, no confidence and a real lack of belief. Fingers crossed we get enough points to be safe, then rebuild for next season. Any news about the new stadium? I feel we all need a real lift. johnno65
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8:18pm Sat 2 Feb 13

thirsky says...

Nothing has changed since the first home game of the season. We are like powder puffs trying to knock down a barn door. We cant compete physically and whilst every one says all the teams that have beaten us are no better than we are then get real. Every team that has come to BC has proved efficient or should I say sufficient and certainly more effective than we will ever be. If we played like opposing teams and get results like they do against us no one would be complaining. The League table does show how a team plays only the points it gains.
The manager knows of no other way to play and I doubt if most of the squad know of any other way to play. A new manager however is likely to be restricted financially just the same and would probably make not be able to make any improvement.
Nothing has changed since the first home game of the season. We are like powder puffs trying to knock down a barn door. We cant compete physically and whilst every one says all the teams that have beaten us are no better than we are then get real. Every team that has come to BC has proved efficient or should I say sufficient and certainly more effective than we will ever be. If we played like opposing teams and get results like they do against us no one would be complaining. The League table does show how a team plays only the points it gains. The manager knows of no other way to play and I doubt if most of the squad know of any other way to play. A new manager however is likely to be restricted financially just the same and would probably make not be able to make any improvement. thirsky
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8:19pm Sat 2 Feb 13

duffy says...

van the man wrote:
duffy wrote:
Mickey T wrote:
redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.
Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?
The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.
So you have to ask yourself, how long will the Mcgills put up with falling gate receipts because of the poor home performances, the product they are selling at the moment is awful, and even the die hards may choose to spend there hard erned cash elsewere.
It's a worry and if anything we needed it the other way around, crap away and great at home to keep the fans happy. It's not just the results, the performances have also been very poor next to what's on offer away. I think we will struggle to hit 3000 from now on which is probably a good 1000 down on what it could have been and that could hit us big time in the summer when we are looking at new players. Sadly I just don't see it picking up when Mills is just so stubborn. I see he is stating he would do exactly the same again with Smith up front.
[quote][p][bold]van the man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mickey T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.[/p][/quote]Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?[/p][/quote]The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.[/p][/quote]So you have to ask yourself, how long will the Mcgills put up with falling gate receipts because of the poor home performances, the product they are selling at the moment is awful, and even the die hards may choose to spend there hard erned cash elsewere.[/p][/quote]It's a worry and if anything we needed it the other way around, crap away and great at home to keep the fans happy. It's not just the results, the performances have also been very poor next to what's on offer away. I think we will struggle to hit 3000 from now on which is probably a good 1000 down on what it could have been and that could hit us big time in the summer when we are looking at new players. Sadly I just don't see it picking up when Mills is just so stubborn. I see he is stating he would do exactly the same again with Smith up front. duffy
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8:32pm Sat 2 Feb 13

van the man says...

bertieb wrote:
Desperate performance today. I cannot believe McGurk and Reed were left on the bench. There is a thin line betwen confidence and arrogance, between strength and pig-headedness and I'm afraid Gary Mills is crossing it with his blinkered adherence to 4-3-3 and his favouritism re the dreadful Chris Smith.It's too early to say Mills out but I fear our manager shows no sign of learning from his mistakes.
Apparently Mills said on the radio after the game, that given the chance, he wouldn"t have changed any of his decisions today during the game, after just getting tonked 4-1 at home, to me thats a man out of ideas, and a sign that he has taken us as far as he can.
[quote][p][bold]bertieb[/bold] wrote: Desperate performance today. I cannot believe McGurk and Reed were left on the bench. There is a thin line betwen confidence and arrogance, between strength and pig-headedness and I'm afraid Gary Mills is crossing it with his blinkered adherence to 4-3-3 and his favouritism re the dreadful Chris Smith.It's too early to say Mills out but I fear our manager shows no sign of learning from his mistakes.[/p][/quote]Apparently Mills said on the radio after the game, that given the chance, he wouldn"t have changed any of his decisions today during the game, after just getting tonked 4-1 at home, to me thats a man out of ideas, and a sign that he has taken us as far as he can. van the man
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8:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13

bill bailey says...

van the man wrote:
bertieb wrote:
Desperate performance today. I cannot believe McGurk and Reed were left on the bench. There is a thin line betwen confidence and arrogance, between strength and pig-headedness and I'm afraid Gary Mills is crossing it with his blinkered adherence to 4-3-3 and his favouritism re the dreadful Chris Smith.It's too early to say Mills out but I fear our manager shows no sign of learning from his mistakes.
Apparently Mills said on the radio after the game, that given the chance, he wouldn"t have changed any of his decisions today during the game, after just getting tonked 4-1 at home, to me thats a man out of ideas, and a sign that he has taken us as far as he can.
Its seems to me its a manager that is void of ideas.
[quote][p][bold]van the man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bertieb[/bold] wrote: Desperate performance today. I cannot believe McGurk and Reed were left on the bench. There is a thin line betwen confidence and arrogance, between strength and pig-headedness and I'm afraid Gary Mills is crossing it with his blinkered adherence to 4-3-3 and his favouritism re the dreadful Chris Smith.It's too early to say Mills out but I fear our manager shows no sign of learning from his mistakes.[/p][/quote]Apparently Mills said on the radio after the game, that given the chance, he wouldn"t have changed any of his decisions today during the game, after just getting tonked 4-1 at home, to me thats a man out of ideas, and a sign that he has taken us as far as he can.[/p][/quote]Its seems to me its a manager that is void of ideas. bill bailey
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9:06pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Pitbull Terry says...

What a depressing performance today. I'm a Mills fan but he currently appears to be out of ideas. I can't agree with his verdict on the Gillingham game either when he said it was a "fantastic" performance. First half Gillingham were awful and all we had to show was a fluky, lucky goal. Our finishing was pathetic throughout the game and we were lucky not to concede more than one goal bearing in mind the amount of free headers the Gillingham forwards were allowed in our penalty area. The equaliser was inevitable. But back to today. Our passing play is nice to watch when we go forward but not back and square which is all too prevalent at the moment. Our finishing again was a joke, my three year old grandson can hit a ball harder than our attempts on goal! There is no doubt that the team as a whole are playing with little confidence. Has it been coached out of them I wonder? Certainly our defensive coach needs to be asked some searching questions! We do need a plan B and withdrawing attacking players and putting defenders up front is not even plan Z! No wonder Reed wants away. Too good to go down.....Don"t you believe it!
What a depressing performance today. I'm a Mills fan but he currently appears to be out of ideas. I can't agree with his verdict on the Gillingham game either when he said it was a "fantastic" performance. First half Gillingham were awful and all we had to show was a fluky, lucky goal. Our finishing was pathetic throughout the game and we were lucky not to concede more than one goal bearing in mind the amount of free headers the Gillingham forwards were allowed in our penalty area. The equaliser was inevitable. But back to today. Our passing play is nice to watch when we go forward but not back and square which is all too prevalent at the moment. Our finishing again was a joke, my three year old grandson can hit a ball harder than our attempts on goal! There is no doubt that the team as a whole are playing with little confidence. Has it been coached out of them I wonder? Certainly our defensive coach needs to be asked some searching questions! We do need a plan B and withdrawing attacking players and putting defenders up front is not even plan Z! No wonder Reed wants away. Too good to go down.....Don"t you believe it! Pitbull Terry
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9:12pm Sat 2 Feb 13

PhilR@Strike says...

van the man wrote:
bertieb wrote:
Desperate performance today. I cannot believe McGurk and Reed were left on the bench. There is a thin line betwen confidence and arrogance, between strength and pig-headedness and I'm afraid Gary Mills is crossing it with his blinkered adherence to 4-3-3 and his favouritism re the dreadful Chris Smith.It's too early to say Mills out but I fear our manager shows no sign of learning from his mistakes.
Apparently Mills said on the radio after the game, that given the chance, he wouldn"t have changed any of his decisions today during the game, after just getting tonked 4-1 at home, to me thats a man out of ideas, and a sign that he has taken us as far as he can.
Oh dear! That's not good!
[quote][p][bold]van the man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bertieb[/bold] wrote: Desperate performance today. I cannot believe McGurk and Reed were left on the bench. There is a thin line betwen confidence and arrogance, between strength and pig-headedness and I'm afraid Gary Mills is crossing it with his blinkered adherence to 4-3-3 and his favouritism re the dreadful Chris Smith.It's too early to say Mills out but I fear our manager shows no sign of learning from his mistakes.[/p][/quote]Apparently Mills said on the radio after the game, that given the chance, he wouldn"t have changed any of his decisions today during the game, after just getting tonked 4-1 at home, to me thats a man out of ideas, and a sign that he has taken us as far as he can.[/p][/quote]Oh dear! That's not good! PhilR@Strike
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9:28pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

Walker is also a love child of Mills
Walker is also a love child of Mills Helliwell's Not a Donkey
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9:42pm Sat 2 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

andy jamo wrote:
lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.
Not time for Mills to go yet in my opinion - not even close. Today we were very, very poor. The few games before that we were 'ok', with good moments. A manager who gets you promoted then produces mostly 'ok' results in his first season in the league doesn't need to be changed. No excuses for losing 4-1 today, but in general we've been hit hard by injuries and budget constraints, and I personally think the current group of players can at least achieve a mid-table finish.
[quote][p][bold]andy jamo[/bold] wrote: lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.[/p][/quote]Not time for Mills to go yet in my opinion - not even close. Today we were very, very poor. The few games before that we were 'ok', with good moments. A manager who gets you promoted then produces mostly 'ok' results in his first season in the league doesn't need to be changed. No excuses for losing 4-1 today, but in general we've been hit hard by injuries and budget constraints, and I personally think the current group of players can at least achieve a mid-table finish. YorkCityLuke
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9:47pm Sat 2 Feb 13

big boy york says...

said it weeks ago mills cant pick this team up, he's the man in charge who picks the team supposedly gives the team talk if he cant lift them then maybe something is wrong. have said for a while mills has taken us as far as he can, maybe time for a change
said it weeks ago mills cant pick this team up, he's the man in charge who picks the team supposedly gives the team talk if he cant lift them then maybe something is wrong. have said for a while mills has taken us as far as he can, maybe time for a change big boy york
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9:53pm Sat 2 Feb 13

arsene.about.york says...

So, we have just been STUFFED 4-1 at home by a poor team and Mills tells Radio York that he would do it all the same again. So, his decision to put Smith up front in desperation and his insistence on playing the useless and ineffective Walker every game are justified. I think that we have played this powder puff football for long enough and the players have obviously had enough as well. Mills got very lucky last season and now his luck, as well as his ideas have well and truly run out. It's time for a change.So come on Jason, before you agree to any more expensive loan signings, do what is needed and give Mills, Lyttle and Gee their pay off cheques and hopefully save us from a return to the conference graveyard.
So, we have just been STUFFED 4-1 at home by a poor team and Mills tells Radio York that he would do it all the same again. So, his decision to put Smith up front in desperation and his insistence on playing the useless and ineffective Walker every game are justified. I think that we have played this powder puff football for long enough and the players have obviously had enough as well. Mills got very lucky last season and now his luck, as well as his ideas have well and truly run out. It's time for a change.So come on Jason, before you agree to any more expensive loan signings, do what is needed and give Mills, Lyttle and Gee their pay off cheques and hopefully save us from a return to the conference graveyard. arsene.about.york
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9:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13

duffy says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
andy jamo wrote:
lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.
Not time for Mills to go yet in my opinion - not even close. Today we were very, very poor. The few games before that we were 'ok', with good moments. A manager who gets you promoted then produces mostly 'ok' results in his first season in the league doesn't need to be changed. No excuses for losing 4-1 today, but in general we've been hit hard by injuries and budget constraints, and I personally think the current group of players can at least achieve a mid-table finish.
Mid-table is starting to look more and more optimistic in my view. My hope was that we made some real improvements to both the defence and attack last month. Still no left back, still no sign of that commanding centre half many of us wanted. Up front have we signed that physical striker that gives us that plan B when needed?. What about that dominant midfielder that will stop us getting bullied out of games ?
Time will tell on the new guys but at the moment we still look a conference team that is getting bullied out of games time and again, we still look like making school boy errors at the back every game, and we still miss chance after chance up front.The aim now should be to avoid relegation and if that means playing it tight and grabbing any point we can so be it.
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy jamo[/bold] wrote: lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.[/p][/quote]Not time for Mills to go yet in my opinion - not even close. Today we were very, very poor. The few games before that we were 'ok', with good moments. A manager who gets you promoted then produces mostly 'ok' results in his first season in the league doesn't need to be changed. No excuses for losing 4-1 today, but in general we've been hit hard by injuries and budget constraints, and I personally think the current group of players can at least achieve a mid-table finish.[/p][/quote]Mid-table is starting to look more and more optimistic in my view. My hope was that we made some real improvements to both the defence and attack last month. Still no left back, still no sign of that commanding centre half many of us wanted. Up front have we signed that physical striker that gives us that plan B when needed?. What about that dominant midfielder that will stop us getting bullied out of games ? Time will tell on the new guys but at the moment we still look a conference team that is getting bullied out of games time and again, we still look like making school boy errors at the back every game, and we still miss chance after chance up front.The aim now should be to avoid relegation and if that means playing it tight and grabbing any point we can so be it. duffy
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10:01pm Sat 2 Feb 13

yorkonafork says...

bartsimmo wrote:
duffy wrote:
Mickey T wrote:
redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.
Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?
The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.
Well one wage that can definitely go is Des Lyttle's! I mean seriously what has he done this season? He is supposed to be a defensive coach yet our defence this season is more shocking than last season. Preferably all 3 of the management out though before it is too late!
Still not a defensive coach. Not sure how many times this need to be brought up. He is not, and was not recruited to be, a defensive coach.
[quote][p][bold]bartsimmo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mickey T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.[/p][/quote]Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?[/p][/quote]The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.[/p][/quote]Well one wage that can definitely go is Des Lyttle's! I mean seriously what has he done this season? He is supposed to be a defensive coach yet our defence this season is more shocking than last season. Preferably all 3 of the management out though before it is too late![/p][/quote]Still not a defensive coach. Not sure how many times this need to be brought up. He is not, and was not recruited to be, a defensive coach. yorkonafork
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10:07pm Sat 2 Feb 13

redwhiteblue says...

The loss of Ashley Chambers started our poor run - we need him back - Rodman not a Chamber and never will be - we need him back as soon as possible. It not always big guys who score - Redshaw one of the smallest on the field
Finally - Mills to go bull.... Let's not make us look stupid - watch us get three point at Wycombe
The loss of Ashley Chambers started our poor run - we need him back - Rodman not a Chamber and never will be - we need him back as soon as possible. It not always big guys who score - Redshaw one of the smallest on the field Finally - Mills to go bull.... Let's not make us look stupid - watch us get three point at Wycombe redwhiteblue
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10:12pm Sat 2 Feb 13

van the man says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
andy jamo wrote:
lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.
Not time for Mills to go yet in my opinion - not even close. Today we were very, very poor. The few games before that we were 'ok', with good moments. A manager who gets you promoted then produces mostly 'ok' results in his first season in the league doesn't need to be changed. No excuses for losing 4-1 today, but in general we've been hit hard by injuries and budget constraints, and I personally think the current group of players can at least achieve a mid-table finish.
For me todays 4-1home defeat was only one in season of woefull home results, the managers tactics work to certain extent away from home when you can invite teams onto you, but to stay in any league you need win a good percentage of your home games, we havn"t got a clue at home, and thats down to the manager by sticking by his golden boys at all costs, even playing them in the wrong positions, at the expense of better options, unless something changes quickly, we are going to continue to struggle, and stay in this league.
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy jamo[/bold] wrote: lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.[/p][/quote]Not time for Mills to go yet in my opinion - not even close. Today we were very, very poor. The few games before that we were 'ok', with good moments. A manager who gets you promoted then produces mostly 'ok' results in his first season in the league doesn't need to be changed. No excuses for losing 4-1 today, but in general we've been hit hard by injuries and budget constraints, and I personally think the current group of players can at least achieve a mid-table finish.[/p][/quote]For me todays 4-1home defeat was only one in season of woefull home results, the managers tactics work to certain extent away from home when you can invite teams onto you, but to stay in any league you need win a good percentage of your home games, we havn"t got a clue at home, and thats down to the manager by sticking by his golden boys at all costs, even playing them in the wrong positions, at the expense of better options, unless something changes quickly, we are going to continue to struggle, and stay in this league. van the man
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10:23pm Sat 2 Feb 13

van the man says...

redwhiteblue wrote:
The loss of Ashley Chambers started our poor run - we need him back - Rodman not a Chamber and never will be - we need him back as soon as possible. It not always big guys who score - Redshaw one of the smallest on the field
Finally - Mills to go bull.... Let's not make us look stupid - watch us get three point at Wycombe
I dont think the loss of Chambers or Coulson has helped, buts its formations and tactics thats cost us at home this season, not the loss of any individual.
[quote][p][bold]redwhiteblue[/bold] wrote: The loss of Ashley Chambers started our poor run - we need him back - Rodman not a Chamber and never will be - we need him back as soon as possible. It not always big guys who score - Redshaw one of the smallest on the field Finally - Mills to go bull.... Let's not make us look stupid - watch us get three point at Wycombe[/p][/quote]I dont think the loss of Chambers or Coulson has helped, buts its formations and tactics thats cost us at home this season, not the loss of any individual. van the man
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10:43pm Sat 2 Feb 13

openallhours says...

Where do we start with this one? Yet another embarassing home defeat and a performance full of tippy tappy worthless football. Can't believe that some posters still defend Mills, who will no doubt blame somebody other than himself for the loss.

As for the morons who harp on about our low budget, which part of 'Mills spends the budget' do they not understand. Lots of duff players combined with the bad joke of our 'defensive coach supremo' tell a story.

As for Ingham, laughing and joking with their attacker, what the **** was all that about!?

A sad day, only just over 3000 crowd and people are voting with their feet. Lets take a minute to think about John Ward who's doing a great job at a proper 'crisis' club. Imagine what he could do with our squad of players. As for the Chambers lovers, our home form was just as bad if not worse.

And by the way (I've made this point before) we were a steady 4th division club under Dolan - dropping into the conference when he was in charge was unimaginable. Mills is a very lucky man and although I thank him for his efforts, he should fall on his sword and acknowledge that he's out of his depth in league football.
Where do we start with this one? Yet another embarassing home defeat and a performance full of tippy tappy worthless football. Can't believe that some posters still defend Mills, who will no doubt blame somebody other than himself for the loss. As for the morons who harp on about our low budget, which part of 'Mills spends the budget' do they not understand. Lots of duff players combined with the bad joke of our 'defensive coach supremo' tell a story. As for Ingham, laughing and joking with their attacker, what the **** was all that about!? A sad day, only just over 3000 crowd and people are voting with their feet. Lets take a minute to think about John Ward who's doing a great job at a proper 'crisis' club. Imagine what he could do with our squad of players. As for the Chambers lovers, our home form was just as bad if not worse. And by the way (I've made this point before) we were a steady 4th division club under Dolan - dropping into the conference when he was in charge was unimaginable. Mills is a very lucky man and although I thank him for his efforts, he should fall on his sword and acknowledge that he's out of his depth in league football. openallhours
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10:54pm Sat 2 Feb 13

van the man says...

van the man wrote:
YorkCityLuke wrote:
andy jamo wrote:
lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.
Not time for Mills to go yet in my opinion - not even close. Today we were very, very poor. The few games before that we were 'ok', with good moments. A manager who gets you promoted then produces mostly 'ok' results in his first season in the league doesn't need to be changed. No excuses for losing 4-1 today, but in general we've been hit hard by injuries and budget constraints, and I personally think the current group of players can at least achieve a mid-table finish.
For me todays 4-1home defeat was only one in season of woefull home results, the managers tactics work to certain extent away from home when you can invite teams onto you, but to stay in any league you need win a good percentage of your home games, we havn"t got a clue at home, and thats down to the manager by sticking by his golden boys at all costs, even playing them in the wrong positions, at the expense of better options, unless something changes quickly, we are going to continue to struggle, and stay in this league.
Sorry that should have been " to stay in this league"
[quote][p][bold]van the man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andy jamo[/bold] wrote: lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.[/p][/quote]Not time for Mills to go yet in my opinion - not even close. Today we were very, very poor. The few games before that we were 'ok', with good moments. A manager who gets you promoted then produces mostly 'ok' results in his first season in the league doesn't need to be changed. No excuses for losing 4-1 today, but in general we've been hit hard by injuries and budget constraints, and I personally think the current group of players can at least achieve a mid-table finish.[/p][/quote]For me todays 4-1home defeat was only one in season of woefull home results, the managers tactics work to certain extent away from home when you can invite teams onto you, but to stay in any league you need win a good percentage of your home games, we havn"t got a clue at home, and thats down to the manager by sticking by his golden boys at all costs, even playing them in the wrong positions, at the expense of better options, unless something changes quickly, we are going to continue to struggle, and stay in this league.[/p][/quote]Sorry that should have been " to stay in this league" van the man
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11:23pm Sat 2 Feb 13

redbluelion says...

after yet another home defeat a right hammering,players not caring mills should be sacked on monday,no other club would stand for this..hes the manager of the team hes had enough time to sort it out...sack him.
after yet another home defeat a right hammering,players not caring mills should be sacked on monday,no other club would stand for this..hes the manager of the team hes had enough time to sort it out...sack him. redbluelion
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12:13am Sun 3 Feb 13

skilly says...

Sacking Mills is not the option.Mills does not have money to spend and has to wheel & deal to get players in, many clubs are in the same situation. Goals change games and at 1-1 we had a great chance with Parslow to score. Had we scored I believe we would have won the game, its a fine line at times and we don't seem to be getting the rub of the green at home. We will finish in a comfortable mid-table position, you only have to look at how tight the table us to see that there are as many as 12 teams who will change places in the lower half of the league. Was it really going to be any different with the squad we have? And those incessant chants for Reedy - give me a break, clubs desparate to sign him? Then why is he still here!!
Sacking Mills is not the option.Mills does not have money to spend and has to wheel & deal to get players in, many clubs are in the same situation. Goals change games and at 1-1 we had a great chance with Parslow to score. Had we scored I believe we would have won the game, its a fine line at times and we don't seem to be getting the rub of the green at home. We will finish in a comfortable mid-table position, you only have to look at how tight the table us to see that there are as many as 12 teams who will change places in the lower half of the league. Was it really going to be any different with the squad we have? And those incessant chants for Reedy - give me a break, clubs desparate to sign him? Then why is he still here!! skilly
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12:38am Sun 3 Feb 13

openallhours says...

skilly wrote:
Sacking Mills is not the option.Mills does not have money to spend and has to wheel & deal to get players in, many clubs are in the same situation. Goals change games and at 1-1 we had a great chance with Parslow to score. Had we scored I believe we would have won the game, its a fine line at times and we don't seem to be getting the rub of the green at home. We will finish in a comfortable mid-table position, you only have to look at how tight the table us to see that there are as many as 12 teams who will change places in the lower half of the league. Was it really going to be any different with the squad we have? And those incessant chants for Reedy - give me a break, clubs desparate to sign him? Then why is he still here!!
What about all of the players that Mills has brought in? Do they play for free or do we use a budget to pay them? To his credit he's brought in a few decent players but that's his job and it's the very least we should expect from a manager. Poor team selections, poor tactics, poor formations and players who aren't fit to wear the shirt will be Mills' legacy at this rate. Far too many poor home performances speaks for itself, as do lower and lower crowds. As for the budget, maybe better performances in cup competitions could have helped there.
[quote][p][bold]skilly[/bold] wrote: Sacking Mills is not the option.Mills does not have money to spend and has to wheel & deal to get players in, many clubs are in the same situation. Goals change games and at 1-1 we had a great chance with Parslow to score. Had we scored I believe we would have won the game, its a fine line at times and we don't seem to be getting the rub of the green at home. We will finish in a comfortable mid-table position, you only have to look at how tight the table us to see that there are as many as 12 teams who will change places in the lower half of the league. Was it really going to be any different with the squad we have? And those incessant chants for Reedy - give me a break, clubs desparate to sign him? Then why is he still here!![/p][/quote]What about all of the players that Mills has brought in? Do they play for free or do we use a budget to pay them? To his credit he's brought in a few decent players but that's his job and it's the very least we should expect from a manager. Poor team selections, poor tactics, poor formations and players who aren't fit to wear the shirt will be Mills' legacy at this rate. Far too many poor home performances speaks for itself, as do lower and lower crowds. As for the budget, maybe better performances in cup competitions could have helped there. openallhours
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12:49am Sun 3 Feb 13

TerryYork says...

Off course "Mills out" is stupid at this moment in time, but if I was Jason McGill I'd be having a serious conversation about the current state of play, because there will be a time where such talk is not going to be stupid, especially if we do not start to get wins. Not "great points", not "oh we played well". WINS.

And I would shake things up by reviewing the full time pay of the assistant manager and review why we brought in Des Lyttle - because to what avail?

£25 in petrol and £16 to get in. It's not good enough.

I'm sure this will upset Gary if he reads it and will have a whine about it to Barry, but WE are your employers and if this was an office, you'd be called in for a chat about said performances.

Footballers - who have it much easier - are no exception, or at least should not be.

So drop the "Parslow's worth 2m (weight in gold)" chat and let's see what Plan B is.
Off course "Mills out" is stupid at this moment in time, but if I was Jason McGill I'd be having a serious conversation about the current state of play, because there will be a time where such talk is not going to be stupid, especially if we do not start to get wins. Not "great points", not "oh we played well". WINS. And I would shake things up by reviewing the full time pay of the assistant manager and review why we brought in Des Lyttle - because to what avail? £25 in petrol and £16 to get in. It's not good enough. I'm sure this will upset Gary if he reads it and will have a whine about it to Barry, but WE are your employers and if this was an office, you'd be called in for a chat about said performances. Footballers - who have it much easier - are no exception, or at least should not be. So drop the "Parslow's worth 2m (weight in gold)" chat and let's see what Plan B is. TerryYork
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3:04am Sun 3 Feb 13

YoRkIe59 says...

like plenty of others on here im a bit bewildered by Mills refusal to change tactics that just arnt working.another puzzler for me is his attitude to his strikers,he clearly dosnt intend to play reedy but he.s on the bench,what happened to Everson is he already considered to be amongst the many very quickly out of favour transfer window recruits.Also last i heard Johnson was having a brief spell actually being fit.we may as well give em all a try and see if any of em are actually goalscorers.Finally its time to stop talking about how gratefull we all are at Gary getting us out of the conference it dosnt need saying,but that dos,n mean his stubbenes should be allowed to take us back down there .
like plenty of others on here im a bit bewildered by Mills refusal to change tactics that just arnt working.another puzzler for me is his attitude to his strikers,he clearly dosnt intend to play reedy but he.s on the bench,what happened to Everson is he already considered to be amongst the many very quickly out of favour transfer window recruits.Also last i heard Johnson was having a brief spell actually being fit.we may as well give em all a try and see if any of em are actually goalscorers.Finally its time to stop talking about how gratefull we all are at Gary getting us out of the conference it dosnt need saying,but that dos,n mean his stubbenes should be allowed to take us back down there . YoRkIe59
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3:22am Sun 3 Feb 13

Caliyorkia says...

If some of the posters on The Press website had the chairman's job, York City would have had 10 managers this season already (one for each league loss). And City probably wouldn't have made it up last season either as Mills would have gone by September. The squad's just had a shake-up, you have to wait for it to stabilize. They'll stay up and Mills will do better next season. It's crazy to suggest that he was a managerial God last year but not good enough this. Stay patient and be happy with a mid-table finish in the first year back after all those miserable years.
If some of the posters on The Press website had the chairman's job, York City would have had 10 managers this season already (one for each league loss). And City probably wouldn't have made it up last season either as Mills would have gone by September. The squad's just had a shake-up, you have to wait for it to stabilize. They'll stay up and Mills will do better next season. It's crazy to suggest that he was a managerial God last year but not good enough this. Stay patient and be happy with a mid-table finish in the first year back after all those miserable years. Caliyorkia
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8:50am Sun 3 Feb 13

roobarb85 says...

Can't agree Cali.

Yes we put up with getting used to the new division and some early reverses and dodgy displays.
But it's now 6 months and 30 games into the season and GM........

still doesn't know his best defence,

still hasn't sorted the fact that we are constantly out-muscled,

still hasn't got a Plan B striker

on balance has failed hugely in his signing policy.

Any new manager wouldn't have time to change things this year so I think we'll have to stick with what we've got and I still think we'll just survive.

But just as any prudent business owner plans for change before crisis hits, I think the board need to be thinking 'Thanks Gary - but now we need someone else to move it on for 13/14.'
Can't agree Cali. Yes we put up with getting used to the new division and some early reverses and dodgy displays. But it's now 6 months and 30 games into the season and GM........ still doesn't know his best defence, still hasn't sorted the fact that we are constantly out-muscled, still hasn't got a Plan B striker on balance has failed hugely in his signing policy. Any new manager wouldn't have time to change things this year so I think we'll have to stick with what we've got and I still think we'll just survive. But just as any prudent business owner plans for change before crisis hits, I think the board need to be thinking 'Thanks Gary - but now we need someone else to move it on for 13/14.' roobarb85
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9:11am Sun 3 Feb 13

play up city says...

Yesterday was weird sort of day for me....Got there and a few beers before the game then into pop stand but i couldnt ge into the game really....
Then the game kicked off two bad sides on the day but the shrimps wanting it more in places to be honest and we looked out of shape and out of ideas at times as well. I hold judgement on Obeng i think he is just to lightweight under pressure (but we'll see).
The situation with the formation i agree its time to work on 433 then go back to 442 as back up, and find plan b and get as much of a settled side as we can for the run into the end of the season......KEEP THE FAITH
Yesterday was weird sort of day for me....Got there and a few beers before the game then into pop stand but i couldnt ge into the game really.... Then the game kicked off two bad sides on the day but the shrimps wanting it more in places to be honest and we looked out of shape and out of ideas at times as well. I hold judgement on Obeng i think he is just to lightweight under pressure (but we'll see). The situation with the formation i agree its time to work on 433 then go back to 442 as back up, and find plan b and get as much of a settled side as we can for the run into the end of the season......KEEP THE FAITH play up city
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9:35am Sun 3 Feb 13

van the man says...

skilly wrote:
Sacking Mills is not the option.Mills does not have money to spend and has to wheel & deal to get players in, many clubs are in the same situation. Goals change games and at 1-1 we had a great chance with Parslow to score. Had we scored I believe we would have won the game, its a fine line at times and we don't seem to be getting the rub of the green at home. We will finish in a comfortable mid-table position, you only have to look at how tight the table us to see that there are as many as 12 teams who will change places in the lower half of the league. Was it really going to be any different with the squad we have? And those incessant chants for Reedy - give me a break, clubs desparate to sign him? Then why is he still here!!
Could be that the fans with at least half a brain can see that reedy is the best finisher with have at the club,with a great record for scoring late goals,so mills brings two defenders on, as with walker, why would clubs pay a fee for reed? who is on a free in a few months time.Yes goals do change games, do you not think reedy would have taken at least one of those chances? Jog on!
[quote][p][bold]skilly[/bold] wrote: Sacking Mills is not the option.Mills does not have money to spend and has to wheel & deal to get players in, many clubs are in the same situation. Goals change games and at 1-1 we had a great chance with Parslow to score. Had we scored I believe we would have won the game, its a fine line at times and we don't seem to be getting the rub of the green at home. We will finish in a comfortable mid-table position, you only have to look at how tight the table us to see that there are as many as 12 teams who will change places in the lower half of the league. Was it really going to be any different with the squad we have? And those incessant chants for Reedy - give me a break, clubs desparate to sign him? Then why is he still here!![/p][/quote]Could be that the fans with at least half a brain can see that reedy is the best finisher with have at the club,with a great record for scoring late goals,so mills brings two defenders on, as with walker, why would clubs pay a fee for reed? who is on a free in a few months time.Yes goals do change games, do you not think reedy would have taken at least one of those chances? Jog on! van the man
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9:52am Sun 3 Feb 13

Yorkieroy60 says...

After chewing through the horrendous traffic on the ring road then coming to a standstill at the hole digging contest near Clifton bridge controlled by the usual traffic mismanagement I ran out of time in my attempts to have a pre match half or three and I thought to myself it better be a good game today- to say I was dissapointed would be an understatement and many of my feelings have been posted by the above apart from to say do I really want to put myself through that punishment again!-I just hope in a few weeks time its a distant memory and the picture brightens.Amen.
After chewing through the horrendous traffic on the ring road then coming to a standstill at the hole digging contest near Clifton bridge controlled by the usual traffic mismanagement I ran out of time in my attempts to have a pre match half or three and I thought to myself it better be a good game today- to say I was dissapointed would be an understatement and many of my feelings have been posted by the above apart from to say do I really want to put myself through that punishment again!-I just hope in a few weeks time its a distant memory and the picture brightens.Amen. Yorkieroy60
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10:28am Sun 3 Feb 13

kirbylad says...

im really getting worried now that we will be in a relegation scrap we have to have a plan b.I along with most city fans begged gary to sign a big forward but he stubborn refuses point blank.Look how their forward Ellison bossed the game in a mediocre side.It is time to rest walker and blair and give others a chance,Gary Mills you are fast going from Hero to Villan the city faithful are losing patience and Jason McGill will be left with no choice but to look for a new Manager.
im really getting worried now that we will be in a relegation scrap we have to have a plan b.I along with most city fans begged gary to sign a big forward but he stubborn refuses point blank.Look how their forward Ellison bossed the game in a mediocre side.It is time to rest walker and blair and give others a chance,Gary Mills you are fast going from Hero to Villan the city faithful are losing patience and Jason McGill will be left with no choice but to look for a new Manager. kirbylad
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10:47am Sun 3 Feb 13

dangermoose says...

5 wins from 17 home fixtures this season, says it all really.

We struggled at home last season with our home form in that god awful league.

So why does Mills not address this? He just plays the same way and it is not difficult for the opposition - evidence of that is in our results.

For me you have got a month Gary to turn this around. Some tough games but we need points and after the last two home games where exactly are we going to get them?

I'm sure that Jason McGill knows as well as anybody that the club can't afford to dice with death so soon, and sentiment I am afraid goes out of the window.
5 wins from 17 home fixtures this season, says it all really. We struggled at home last season with our home form in that god awful league. So why does Mills not address this? He just plays the same way and it is not difficult for the opposition - evidence of that is in our results. For me you have got a month Gary to turn this around. Some tough games but we need points and after the last two home games where exactly are we going to get them? I'm sure that Jason McGill knows as well as anybody that the club can't afford to dice with death so soon, and sentiment I am afraid goes out of the window. dangermoose
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10:58am Sun 3 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

Saying Mills was lucky last season is as senseless as saying he is unlucky this season. He got us promoted, to say anything less than he was brilliant last season is extremely ungrateful. Like I have posted previously, we shouldn't be looking at replacing Mills, not after one bad result in a run of mediocre results. We were never going to walk this league like Mills, myself, and some other supporters were saying at the start of the season - a realist would have expected us to take a few hammerings. We started this season as the lowest ranked team in the football league, so realistically anything outside of the relegation zone is an improvement.

This is one hammering, not a series of hammerings - lets keep it in perspective. Everyone has acknowledged that Mills has to start putting things right, lets give him time to integrate the new signings before we write City off.
Saying Mills was lucky last season is as senseless as saying he is unlucky this season. He got us promoted, to say anything less than he was brilliant last season is extremely ungrateful. Like I have posted previously, we shouldn't be looking at replacing Mills, not after one bad result in a run of mediocre results. We were never going to walk this league like Mills, myself, and some other supporters were saying at the start of the season - a realist would have expected us to take a few hammerings. We started this season as the lowest ranked team in the football league, so realistically anything outside of the relegation zone is an improvement. This is one hammering, not a series of hammerings - lets keep it in perspective. Everyone has acknowledged that Mills has to start putting things right, lets give him time to integrate the new signings before we write City off. YorkCityLuke
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11:01am Sun 3 Feb 13

duffy says...

dangermoose wrote:
5 wins from 17 home fixtures this season, says it all really.

We struggled at home last season with our home form in that god awful league.

So why does Mills not address this? He just plays the same way and it is not difficult for the opposition - evidence of that is in our results.

For me you have got a month Gary to turn this around. Some tough games but we need points and after the last two home games where exactly are we going to get them?

I'm sure that Jason McGill knows as well as anybody that the club can't afford to dice with death so soon, and sentiment I am afraid goes out of the window.
I'm sure Jason at times is no different to the rest of us and thinks back to that final season in the football league with the great start with four wins from four followed by a steady decline. However he always gives the impression of being very loyal to Gary and I just don't see him sacking him which I would agree with as it stands. If we do stay up though as I still think we will although my faith is been tested I wonder whether the board may have a serious decision to make in the summer.
[quote][p][bold]dangermoose[/bold] wrote: 5 wins from 17 home fixtures this season, says it all really. We struggled at home last season with our home form in that god awful league. So why does Mills not address this? He just plays the same way and it is not difficult for the opposition - evidence of that is in our results. For me you have got a month Gary to turn this around. Some tough games but we need points and after the last two home games where exactly are we going to get them? I'm sure that Jason McGill knows as well as anybody that the club can't afford to dice with death so soon, and sentiment I am afraid goes out of the window.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Jason at times is no different to the rest of us and thinks back to that final season in the football league with the great start with four wins from four followed by a steady decline. However he always gives the impression of being very loyal to Gary and I just don't see him sacking him which I would agree with as it stands. If we do stay up though as I still think we will although my faith is been tested I wonder whether the board may have a serious decision to make in the summer. duffy
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11:22am Sun 3 Feb 13

carterjason says...

You certainly have to question a lot of the managers signings, in pre season as well as the transfer window. A lot of loyalty to the lads from last season but 3 or 4 just not good enough. Ok we had some bad injuries to key players but these performances at home games are not good enough. The team needs to get some physical strength in it, wwhat about the young lads allan, platt... instead of panic signings and increasing the wage bill surely they could of played till the other players got fit.
You certainly have to question a lot of the managers signings, in pre season as well as the transfer window. A lot of loyalty to the lads from last season but 3 or 4 just not good enough. Ok we had some bad injuries to key players but these performances at home games are not good enough. The team needs to get some physical strength in it, wwhat about the young lads allan, platt... instead of panic signings and increasing the wage bill surely they could of played till the other players got fit. carterjason
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11:26am Sun 3 Feb 13

YCFC115 says...

Quote "I will not bring anyone to the club that isn't better than what we've already got" nearly as good as the other famous quote "we will be the Arsenal of the conference"!

Would love to know what Mills has down for characteristics of a good player.

If, if we go down that will be the death of the club. In Mills we trust but its wearing a wee bit thin now.
Quote "I will not bring anyone to the club that isn't better than what we've already got" nearly as good as the other famous quote "we will be the Arsenal of the conference"! Would love to know what Mills has down for characteristics of a good player. If, if we go down that will be the death of the club. In Mills we trust but its wearing a wee bit thin now. YCFC115
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11:43am Sun 3 Feb 13

johnboy2882 says...

the worry is that we have less points at the end of january than we did in 2004 when we went down fingers crossed we stay up dont want conference football again some big changes needed in the summer
the worry is that we have less points at the end of january than we did in 2004 when we went down fingers crossed we stay up dont want conference football again some big changes needed in the summer johnboy2882
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12:09pm Sun 3 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

I dont think that sacking Gary Mills is a good idea, but something needs to be done and quickly before its too late. People go on about his playing budget, but a lot of clubs have the same problem. Morecambe let Brodie go because they couldnt afford his wages. Yet Morecambe look better suited to League Football than we do. The problem started as soon as City won the play-off final at Wembley. The Manager and everyone at the club got swept away with euphoria, and forgot all about building a Football League team. We are now paying for that poor preparation. To be honest the current team would be in the bottom half of the Conference.
I dont think that sacking Gary Mills is a good idea, but something needs to be done and quickly before its too late. People go on about his playing budget, but a lot of clubs have the same problem. Morecambe let Brodie go because they couldnt afford his wages. Yet Morecambe look better suited to League Football than we do. The problem started as soon as City won the play-off final at Wembley. The Manager and everyone at the club got swept away with euphoria, and forgot all about building a Football League team. We are now paying for that poor preparation. To be honest the current team would be in the bottom half of the Conference. OLD - HEAD
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12:17pm Sun 3 Feb 13

garnham says...

OK everyone come down to realty. Sacking Gary will cost us
'signing' a striker will cost us
Fans not turning up will cost us
Supporters not supporting the team will cost us
Result back in the conference before we know it...

Remember we have lost money big style & cannot expand our budget any further

So to all you clever dick's... Start giving the lads support through thick & thin.
The ONLY way we can have a future is to support the club though this vital period for our club. I'm sure the board realise this & I for one hope they back the playing management to the hilt.

Remember we need to be a club that produces players not as in the dark ages of Little & Dolan bringing in player on stupid wages.
OK everyone come down to realty. Sacking Gary will cost us 'signing' a striker will cost us Fans not turning up will cost us Supporters not supporting the team will cost us Result back in the conference before we know it... Remember we have lost money big style & cannot expand our budget any further So to all you clever dick's... Start giving the lads support through thick & thin. The ONLY way we can have a future is to support the club though this vital period for our club. I'm sure the board realise this & I for one hope they back the playing management to the hilt. Remember we need to be a club that produces players not as in the dark ages of Little & Dolan bringing in player on stupid wages. garnham
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12:19pm Sun 3 Feb 13

lifelong says...

I feared the worst when I looked at the team sheet with debutants and players selected out of position. Parslow looked like a spare part having been dislodged from his best place in the back four. Despite a lot of possession in the first half we failed to create a clear cut chance whereas Morecambe had only two but thanks to a defensive blunder converted one with some ease. How on earth have we arrived at the situation in defence when balls are continually passed sideways and backwards. Confidence was lacking in abundance and the midfield was absent. I agree fully that we should have buried the golden opportunities that were created in the second half. It only seemed a matter of time that the visitors would score again but the manner of it happening was woeful as they were gifted the lead.
This resulted in puzzling substitutions and it came as no surprise really that the visitors were presented with bonus goals as City were left with threadbare cover at the back. A scoreline which was totally unrepresentative of City's efforts.Six months ago Manager Mills reached a personal zenith in his achievements at York and now some fans are unkindly calling for his head. His task now in lifting the team and supporters is going to be a tough ask. Bootham Crescent at the moment presents a real challenge for the team to play well when they appear to relish the matches away. Not so long ago I recall a comment from one of the Rochdale Management saying that City were the best team by far to visit them. The injuries to key players are now becoming problematical and clearly Mills does not know how to cope with this situation. I hope this is only for the time being
I shall continue to turn up to the home matches hoping for things to turn round and maybe for the team to have a slice of luck and the ball to bounce in their favour.
I feared the worst when I looked at the team sheet with debutants and players selected out of position. Parslow looked like a spare part having been dislodged from his best place in the back four. Despite a lot of possession in the first half we failed to create a clear cut chance whereas Morecambe had only two but thanks to a defensive blunder converted one with some ease. How on earth have we arrived at the situation in defence when balls are continually passed sideways and backwards. Confidence was lacking in abundance and the midfield was absent. I agree fully that we should have buried the golden opportunities that were created in the second half. It only seemed a matter of time that the visitors would score again but the manner of it happening was woeful as they were gifted the lead. This resulted in puzzling substitutions and it came as no surprise really that the visitors were presented with bonus goals as City were left with threadbare cover at the back. A scoreline which was totally unrepresentative of City's efforts.Six months ago Manager Mills reached a personal zenith in his achievements at York and now some fans are unkindly calling for his head. His task now in lifting the team and supporters is going to be a tough ask. Bootham Crescent at the moment presents a real challenge for the team to play well when they appear to relish the matches away. Not so long ago I recall a comment from one of the Rochdale Management saying that City were the best team by far to visit them. The injuries to key players are now becoming problematical and clearly Mills does not know how to cope with this situation. I hope this is only for the time being I shall continue to turn up to the home matches hoping for things to turn round and maybe for the team to have a slice of luck and the ball to bounce in their favour. lifelong
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12:35pm Sun 3 Feb 13

johnboy2882 says...

tom platt scored goals for harrogate on loan why not give him a chance but no we send him out on loan again
tom platt scored goals for harrogate on loan why not give him a chance but no we send him out on loan again johnboy2882
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1:01pm Sun 3 Feb 13

York Manor says...

I am going to keep this short because its all been said by various posts.
1. We are going into a relegation battle.
2.Mills and cronies have no idea, no tatics no plan A let alone a Plan B.
3. Defence is horrendous.
4. Finishing is worse than horrendous.
5. Probably the worst keeper in League 2
6. Rubbish home form.
7. Meaningless window signings.

Change of manager please, before we become a conference side again and this wonderful football club is no more. Thanks Gary for what you did last season, but out of your depth in this league.
I am going to keep this short because its all been said by various posts. 1. We are going into a relegation battle. 2.Mills and cronies have no idea, no tatics no plan A let alone a Plan B. 3. Defence is horrendous. 4. Finishing is worse than horrendous. 5. Probably the worst keeper in League 2 6. Rubbish home form. 7. Meaningless window signings. Change of manager please, before we become a conference side again and this wonderful football club is no more. Thanks Gary for what you did last season, but out of your depth in this league. York Manor
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1:38pm Sun 3 Feb 13

paddymacwakey says...

i am not a moaner or groaner like some on here,but after yesterdays game i just had to get things off my chest.i always get behind the team and always encourage the players,but there are a few why questions i would like to ask.why did mills chop and change the back four.why wasnt mcgurk at the side of smith,and kept it same with fyfield left back and parslow right back.why did he weaken the team by bringing potts and mclaughlin off.why didnt he put reed on instead of throwing smith up front and unsettling the team altogether.why are we so negative at home.and why,why,why avent signed a hitman to score the goals we so desperately need.where are the goals going to come from.blair and mclaughlin need to start scoring like last season.mills has got to change the system at home or like a few posts on here say,we will be in a relegation dog fight,andwe would be a long time again coming back.finally i would like to ask yorkonafork,can you tell me what we are paying des lyttle for if he isnt a defence coach.
i am not a moaner or groaner like some on here,but after yesterdays game i just had to get things off my chest.i always get behind the team and always encourage the players,but there are a few why questions i would like to ask.why did mills chop and change the back four.why wasnt mcgurk at the side of smith,and kept it same with fyfield left back and parslow right back.why did he weaken the team by bringing potts and mclaughlin off.why didnt he put reed on instead of throwing smith up front and unsettling the team altogether.why are we so negative at home.and why,why,why avent signed a hitman to score the goals we so desperately need.where are the goals going to come from.blair and mclaughlin need to start scoring like last season.mills has got to change the system at home or like a few posts on here say,we will be in a relegation dog fight,andwe would be a long time again coming back.finally i would like to ask yorkonafork,can you tell me what we are paying des lyttle for if he isnt a defence coach. paddymacwakey
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2:23pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Phil, Leeds says...

Mills needs to listen to the supporters before it's too late. For God's sake ditch this dreadful, ineffective 451 formation. Yes it works away but it's failed all season at home. He needs to be less intransigent and stubborn and play players in the right positions. The latest batch of transfer window players are as appalling as those from a year ago. What is the point of Jason Walker, he is abysmal and spends half of every game on his backside. He's got 9 goals this season, 3 from the spot and a fourth (v Wycombe) that hit him on the line. He doesn't get into positions to score. Why was McGurk on the bench when he's the best centre back at the Club? Why play Smith as a centre forward when Reed should have been on the pitch by then? Why not get Challinor back in the side? Play Mcready from the start in a 442 formation. And one player he should have signed is a more robust forward in the mould of Michael Rankine. Complete waste of time going to home games. A couple of friend were asking about coming to watch City but were staggered by the price of £16/£19 to watch League 2 football, especially crap like we get served up. Sort it out Mills.
Mills needs to listen to the supporters before it's too late. For God's sake ditch this dreadful, ineffective 451 formation. Yes it works away but it's failed all season at home. He needs to be less intransigent and stubborn and play players in the right positions. The latest batch of transfer window players are as appalling as those from a year ago. What is the point of Jason Walker, he is abysmal and spends half of every game on his backside. He's got 9 goals this season, 3 from the spot and a fourth (v Wycombe) that hit him on the line. He doesn't get into positions to score. Why was McGurk on the bench when he's the best centre back at the Club? Why play Smith as a centre forward when Reed should have been on the pitch by then? Why not get Challinor back in the side? Play Mcready from the start in a 442 formation. And one player he should have signed is a more robust forward in the mould of Michael Rankine. Complete waste of time going to home games. A couple of friend were asking about coming to watch City but were staggered by the price of £16/£19 to watch League 2 football, especially crap like we get served up. Sort it out Mills. Phil, Leeds
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3:53pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Budgie says...

York Manor sums it up very well,It became evident we needed a strong bustling forward after a few games,all our signings are powder puff,On Saturday Obeng was out his depth,Ingham his usual self good shot stopping useless at the basics,Parslow is no left back unable to cross effectively, On came McCaid oh dear! he looks smaller than Walker. How we are going to get out of our frefall I do not bear to think.Mill aint no idea either.
York Manor sums it up very well,It became evident we needed a strong bustling forward after a few games,all our signings are powder puff,On Saturday Obeng was out his depth,Ingham his usual self good shot stopping useless at the basics,Parslow is no left back unable to cross effectively, On came McCaid oh dear! he looks smaller than Walker. How we are going to get out of our frefall I do not bear to think.Mill aint no idea either. Budgie
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4:24pm Sun 3 Feb 13

dangermoose says...

Just seen that debacle again on TV

Goal 1 - Smith failed to win header
Goal 2 - Ingham bottled the challenge - soft as you know what
Goal 3 - Fyfield oh dear, could he have made it any easier for the scorer
Goal 4 - Parslow and O'Connell fast asleep

All in all utter garbage, but the happy clappers don't want to hear a bad word still.

Re-think time Mills. I just don't get why when something fails as consistently as we do at home, nothing is done to address it?
Just seen that debacle again on TV Goal 1 - Smith failed to win header Goal 2 - Ingham bottled the challenge - soft as you know what Goal 3 - Fyfield oh dear, could he have made it any easier for the scorer Goal 4 - Parslow and O'Connell fast asleep All in all utter garbage, but the happy clappers don't want to hear a bad word still. Re-think time Mills. I just don't get why when something fails as consistently as we do at home, nothing is done to address it? dangermoose
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4:35pm Sun 3 Feb 13

duffy says...

dangermoose wrote:
Just seen that debacle again on TV

Goal 1 - Smith failed to win header
Goal 2 - Ingham bottled the challenge - soft as you know what
Goal 3 - Fyfield oh dear, could he have made it any easier for the scorer
Goal 4 - Parslow and O'Connell fast asleep

All in all utter garbage, but the happy clappers don't want to hear a bad word still.

Re-think time Mills. I just don't get why when something fails as consistently as we do at home, nothing is done to address it?
Yes just seen the goals again, we hardly have a clean sheet in us do we. But again not sorted when it should have been in the summer when Mr Mills responded to some of our defensive worries with the quote that he " believed in this group of players to make the step up" or something along those lines. 😏
[quote][p][bold]dangermoose[/bold] wrote: Just seen that debacle again on TV Goal 1 - Smith failed to win header Goal 2 - Ingham bottled the challenge - soft as you know what Goal 3 - Fyfield oh dear, could he have made it any easier for the scorer Goal 4 - Parslow and O'Connell fast asleep All in all utter garbage, but the happy clappers don't want to hear a bad word still. Re-think time Mills. I just don't get why when something fails as consistently as we do at home, nothing is done to address it?[/p][/quote]Yes just seen the goals again, we hardly have a clean sheet in us do we. But again not sorted when it should have been in the summer when Mr Mills responded to some of our defensive worries with the quote that he " believed in this group of players to make the step up" or something along those lines. 😏 duffy
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4:48pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Mad for Minstermen says...

First of all, we'll done to the fans who attended Saturday. I wish I could have carried on traipsing from hull to York to support my team of some 45 years through thick and thin. Unfortunately have made that trip this season and been rewarded for loyal support with not one single win I threw my hand in several weeks ago. If I had not I would have seen another £30 all in flushed down the proverbially bog. The footie was garbage and thankfully my brain took over the heart and kicked city into touch. Never say never, but for now I thank the rest of you for your extended loyalty and hope for you things improve and you start getting your hard earned moneys worth!
First of all, we'll done to the fans who attended Saturday. I wish I could have carried on traipsing from hull to York to support my team of some 45 years through thick and thin. Unfortunately have made that trip this season and been rewarded for loyal support with not one single win I threw my hand in several weeks ago. If I had not I would have seen another £30 all in flushed down the proverbially bog. The footie was garbage and thankfully my brain took over the heart and kicked city into touch. Never say never, but for now I thank the rest of you for your extended loyalty and hope for you things improve and you start getting your hard earned moneys worth! Mad for Minstermen
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4:48pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Keith...lad says...

Gary Mills did a great job last season at City but this season he has brought problems on himself.
He should have never mentioned the word promotion.This in its self has put pressure on the players only just getting use to this level of football.
He has also raised expections for supporters and has come back to bit.
We all should be happy with mid to lower finish and build year on year.
In the close season after promotion a coach or assistant manager with knowledge and experience of league 2 should have been appointed and sorry to say Gee should have gone and Lyttle should not have arrived.
It not all doom and gloom yet but Feb will be a very big month and hopefully not a end of season relegation fight.
Gary Mills did a great job last season at City but this season he has brought problems on himself. He should have never mentioned the word promotion.This in its self has put pressure on the players only just getting use to this level of football. He has also raised expections for supporters and has come back to bit. We all should be happy with mid to lower finish and build year on year. In the close season after promotion a coach or assistant manager with knowledge and experience of league 2 should have been appointed and sorry to say Gee should have gone and Lyttle should not have arrived. It not all doom and gloom yet but Feb will be a very big month and hopefully not a end of season relegation fight. Keith...lad
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5:29pm Sun 3 Feb 13

RooBeck says...

Whatever we do as fans, or not do, we must stay loyal and supportive of the team management - not blind loyalty - constructive thoughts and criticisms are fine and necessary but please, lets not fragment at this critical part of our first season back in the Football League. GM now needs to consider and assess his tactics/ approach to matches and carry-out a full and detailed analysis of our poor home form and very quickly put it right! Lack of physical strength and presence is an obvious poblem.Anothr, is our lack of a quality striker and now we have David McDaid on an 18 month contract, use him and build attacking formations around him that will allow him to show what he can do. Also, it is essential we keep to a strong and able keeper and back four - Ingham, Parslow, Smith, McGurk and Fyfield for me and the loanees just in case,so as to keep them on their toes. Give John MacReady a chance in midfield and overall, sit all the squad down and impress upon them that we are now in a fight and nothing less than 100% application and effort will do at any time - in training and during a match. We the fans, then need to know this message has been delivered and understood and then to play our part and get right behind the team - home and away. COYR.
Whatever we do as fans, or not do, we must stay loyal and supportive of the team management - not blind loyalty - constructive thoughts and criticisms are fine and necessary but please, lets not fragment at this critical part of our first season back in the Football League. GM now needs to consider and assess his tactics/ approach to matches and carry-out a full and detailed analysis of our poor home form and very quickly put it right! Lack of physical strength and presence is an obvious poblem.Anothr, is our lack of a quality striker and now we have David McDaid on an 18 month contract, use him and build attacking formations around him that will allow him to show what he can do. Also, it is essential we keep to a strong and able keeper and back four - Ingham, Parslow, Smith, McGurk and Fyfield for me and the loanees just in case,so as to keep them on their toes. Give John MacReady a chance in midfield and overall, sit all the squad down and impress upon them that we are now in a fight and nothing less than 100% application and effort will do at any time - in training and during a match. We the fans, then need to know this message has been delivered and understood and then to play our part and get right behind the team - home and away. COYR. RooBeck
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6:12pm Sun 3 Feb 13

skilly says...

York Manor wrote:
I am going to keep this short because its all been said by various posts.
1. We are going into a relegation battle.
2.Mills and cronies have no idea, no tatics no plan A let alone a Plan B.
3. Defence is horrendous.
4. Finishing is worse than horrendous.
5. Probably the worst keeper in League 2
6. Rubbish home form.
7. Meaningless window signings.

Change of manager please, before we become a conference side again and this wonderful football club is no more. Thanks Gary for what you did last season, but out of your depth in this league.
You kept it short and I'm glad you did. Can't agree with any of this. keep going Gary you have my backing and hopefully that of the board COYR
[quote][p][bold]York Manor[/bold] wrote: I am going to keep this short because its all been said by various posts. 1. We are going into a relegation battle. 2.Mills and cronies have no idea, no tatics no plan A let alone a Plan B. 3. Defence is horrendous. 4. Finishing is worse than horrendous. 5. Probably the worst keeper in League 2 6. Rubbish home form. 7. Meaningless window signings. Change of manager please, before we become a conference side again and this wonderful football club is no more. Thanks Gary for what you did last season, but out of your depth in this league.[/p][/quote]You kept it short and I'm glad you did. Can't agree with any of this. keep going Gary you have my backing and hopefully that of the board COYR skilly
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6:40pm Sun 3 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

How quiet was the Longhurst Stand yesterday?. One week we get banners and drums, and the continual chanting of "Gary Mills barmy army" - But yesterday it was almost complete silence. Until of course the final whistle, then we got the booing. But I do appreciate that it is the teams display on the pitch that brings the crowd to life. Perhaps the lack lustre home performances have taken their toll.
How quiet was the Longhurst Stand yesterday?. One week we get banners and drums, and the continual chanting of "Gary Mills barmy army" - But yesterday it was almost complete silence. Until of course the final whistle, then we got the booing. But I do appreciate that it is the teams display on the pitch that brings the crowd to life. Perhaps the lack lustre home performances have taken their toll. OLD - HEAD
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6:45pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Garrowby Turnoff says...

It's the players who loose footy matches, not managers. Managers and coaches sit on the bench while the clueless players are kicking the ball about. City will stay up but all this ar$e kicking ain't gonna help.
It's the players who loose footy matches, not managers. Managers and coaches sit on the bench while the clueless players are kicking the ball about. City will stay up but all this ar$e kicking ain't gonna help. Garrowby Turnoff
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6:53pm Sun 3 Feb 13

openallhours says...

Notts County have sacked Keith Curle - maybe they've realised that they made a mistake letting Gary go and want him back? Lol

Joking aside, Keith Curle anyone?
Notts County have sacked Keith Curle - maybe they've realised that they made a mistake letting Gary go and want him back? Lol Joking aside, Keith Curle anyone? openallhours
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7:01pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Dortmun says...

A win next week will prob only bring 10 - 15 comments of encouragement.
At least when we lose there is plenty to read.
A win next week will prob only bring 10 - 15 comments of encouragement. At least when we lose there is plenty to read. Dortmun
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7:09pm Sun 3 Feb 13

bill bailey says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
Saying Mills was lucky last season is as senseless as saying he is unlucky this season. He got us promoted, to say anything less than he was brilliant last season is extremely ungrateful. Like I have posted previously, we shouldn't be looking at replacing Mills, not after one bad result in a run of mediocre results. We were never going to walk this league like Mills, myself, and some other supporters were saying at the start of the season - a realist would have expected us to take a few hammerings. We started this season as the lowest ranked team in the football league, so realistically anything outside of the relegation zone is an improvement.

This is one hammering, not a series of hammerings - lets keep it in perspective. Everyone has acknowledged that Mills has to start putting things right, lets give him time to integrate the new signings before we write City off.
Although i agree with some of what you say,there are plenty of people who paid their hard earned money to see a team that turned in a performance well below their expectations,against a team they should have put to bed by halftime.i'm
not stupid enough to think things cant go wrong now and then,but it seems to me what ever system Mills uses he has it wrong.perhaps those that are his "LEFT HAND MEN" are not the right
ones.loyalty can only extent as long as your owqn neck.
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: Saying Mills was lucky last season is as senseless as saying he is unlucky this season. He got us promoted, to say anything less than he was brilliant last season is extremely ungrateful. Like I have posted previously, we shouldn't be looking at replacing Mills, not after one bad result in a run of mediocre results. We were never going to walk this league like Mills, myself, and some other supporters were saying at the start of the season - a realist would have expected us to take a few hammerings. We started this season as the lowest ranked team in the football league, so realistically anything outside of the relegation zone is an improvement. This is one hammering, not a series of hammerings - lets keep it in perspective. Everyone has acknowledged that Mills has to start putting things right, lets give him time to integrate the new signings before we write City off.[/p][/quote]Although i agree with some of what you say,there are plenty of people who paid their hard earned money to see a team that turned in a performance well below their expectations,against a team they should have put to bed by halftime.i'm not stupid enough to think things cant go wrong now and then,but it seems to me what ever system Mills uses he has it wrong.perhaps those that are his "LEFT HAND MEN" are not the right ones.loyalty can only extent as long as your owqn neck. bill bailey
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7:57pm Sun 3 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

bill bailey wrote:
YorkCityLuke wrote:
Saying Mills was lucky last season is as senseless as saying he is unlucky this season. He got us promoted, to say anything less than he was brilliant last season is extremely ungrateful. Like I have posted previously, we shouldn't be looking at replacing Mills, not after one bad result in a run of mediocre results. We were never going to walk this league like Mills, myself, and some other supporters were saying at the start of the season - a realist would have expected us to take a few hammerings. We started this season as the lowest ranked team in the football league, so realistically anything outside of the relegation zone is an improvement.

This is one hammering, not a series of hammerings - lets keep it in perspective. Everyone has acknowledged that Mills has to start putting things right, lets give him time to integrate the new signings before we write City off.
Although i agree with some of what you say,there are plenty of people who paid their hard earned money to see a team that turned in a performance well below their expectations,against a team they should have put to bed by halftime.i'm
not stupid enough to think things cant go wrong now and then,but it seems to me what ever system Mills uses he has it wrong.perhaps those that are his "LEFT HAND MEN" are not the right
ones.loyalty can only extent as long as your owqn neck.
I think you're correct about the system needing a change (or at least a significant tweak) and of course, I was as unhappy as anyone else about yesterdays result and performance. I'm probably guilty, as are others, of giving Mills much more patience than managers would normally get because of last season. But I also honestly believe that Mills is a born winner; he won as a player, he won at Tamworth, and he won for us last season. If he makes a habit of losing, then maybe it's time for change - just not yet!
[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: Saying Mills was lucky last season is as senseless as saying he is unlucky this season. He got us promoted, to say anything less than he was brilliant last season is extremely ungrateful. Like I have posted previously, we shouldn't be looking at replacing Mills, not after one bad result in a run of mediocre results. We were never going to walk this league like Mills, myself, and some other supporters were saying at the start of the season - a realist would have expected us to take a few hammerings. We started this season as the lowest ranked team in the football league, so realistically anything outside of the relegation zone is an improvement. This is one hammering, not a series of hammerings - lets keep it in perspective. Everyone has acknowledged that Mills has to start putting things right, lets give him time to integrate the new signings before we write City off.[/p][/quote]Although i agree with some of what you say,there are plenty of people who paid their hard earned money to see a team that turned in a performance well below their expectations,against a team they should have put to bed by halftime.i'm not stupid enough to think things cant go wrong now and then,but it seems to me what ever system Mills uses he has it wrong.perhaps those that are his "LEFT HAND MEN" are not the right ones.loyalty can only extent as long as your owqn neck.[/p][/quote]I think you're correct about the system needing a change (or at least a significant tweak) and of course, I was as unhappy as anyone else about yesterdays result and performance. I'm probably guilty, as are others, of giving Mills much more patience than managers would normally get because of last season. But I also honestly believe that Mills is a born winner; he won as a player, he won at Tamworth, and he won for us last season. If he makes a habit of losing, then maybe it's time for change - just not yet! YorkCityLuke
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8:16pm Sun 3 Feb 13

sixtyfourfive says...

Am as disappointed as the rest over yesterday and have refrained from commenting until now. As usual some very sensible and considered comments but also some utter garbage eg "Ingham worst keeper in Div 2." Get real? Our second half performance was poor BUT if good chances (eg Paddy Mac twice) had been put away at critical points we could well have had 3 points and would probably have had about 12 comments on this forum. The nature of League 2 is that Morecambe will probably get stuffed at home next week and we will win at Wycombe - players/teams at this level are notoriously inconsistent. Putting things into perspective we are around mid table which is what most expect and where I believe we will finish. I agree our tactics suit away better than home and Mills seems a little stubborn on changing things in that area but I do believe there is something of a caustic atmosphere at home not evident away which does not help. Poor performance but total over reaction by some!
Am as disappointed as the rest over yesterday and have refrained from commenting until now. As usual some very sensible and considered comments but also some utter garbage eg "Ingham worst keeper in Div 2." Get real? Our second half performance was poor BUT if good chances (eg Paddy Mac twice) had been put away at critical points we could well have had 3 points and would probably have had about 12 comments on this forum. The nature of League 2 is that Morecambe will probably get stuffed at home next week and we will win at Wycombe - players/teams at this level are notoriously inconsistent. Putting things into perspective we are around mid table which is what most expect and where I believe we will finish. I agree our tactics suit away better than home and Mills seems a little stubborn on changing things in that area but I do believe there is something of a caustic atmosphere at home not evident away which does not help. Poor performance but total over reaction by some! sixtyfourfive
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8:27pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Phil, Leeds says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
YorkCityLuke wrote:
Saying Mills was lucky last season is as senseless as saying he is unlucky this season. He got us promoted, to say anything less than he was brilliant last season is extremely ungrateful. Like I have posted previously, we shouldn't be looking at replacing Mills, not after one bad result in a run of mediocre results. We were never going to walk this league like Mills, myself, and some other supporters were saying at the start of the season - a realist would have expected us to take a few hammerings. We started this season as the lowest ranked team in the football league, so realistically anything outside of the relegation zone is an improvement.

This is one hammering, not a series of hammerings - lets keep it in perspective. Everyone has acknowledged that Mills has to start putting things right, lets give him time to integrate the new signings before we write City off.
Although i agree with some of what you say,there are plenty of people who paid their hard earned money to see a team that turned in a performance well below their expectations,against a team they should have put to bed by halftime.i'm
not stupid enough to think things cant go wrong now and then,but it seems to me what ever system Mills uses he has it wrong.perhaps those that are his "LEFT HAND MEN" are not the right
ones.loyalty can only extent as long as your owqn neck.
I think you're correct about the system needing a change (or at least a significant tweak) and of course, I was as unhappy as anyone else about yesterdays result and performance. I'm probably guilty, as are others, of giving Mills much more patience than managers would normally get because of last season. But I also honestly believe that Mills is a born winner; he won as a player, he won at Tamworth, and he won for us last season. If he makes a habit of losing, then maybe it's time for change - just not yet!
Mm, he was a winner at non league level, doesn't guarantee he can get the same success stepping up. What's worrying is that he still can't see that his beloved formation "that I've used throughout my career" isn't working, at least not at home. Maybe opposing managers have worked him out knowing he'll not change anything - too predictable you could say! He's backed himself into a corner and as the fans beg for a different set up, 442, he'll see it as a weakness if he goes for that. Most football managers are very stubborn and arrogant and that's usually their downfall. But supporters aren't totally stupid.
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: Saying Mills was lucky last season is as senseless as saying he is unlucky this season. He got us promoted, to say anything less than he was brilliant last season is extremely ungrateful. Like I have posted previously, we shouldn't be looking at replacing Mills, not after one bad result in a run of mediocre results. We were never going to walk this league like Mills, myself, and some other supporters were saying at the start of the season - a realist would have expected us to take a few hammerings. We started this season as the lowest ranked team in the football league, so realistically anything outside of the relegation zone is an improvement. This is one hammering, not a series of hammerings - lets keep it in perspective. Everyone has acknowledged that Mills has to start putting things right, lets give him time to integrate the new signings before we write City off.[/p][/quote]Although i agree with some of what you say,there are plenty of people who paid their hard earned money to see a team that turned in a performance well below their expectations,against a team they should have put to bed by halftime.i'm not stupid enough to think things cant go wrong now and then,but it seems to me what ever system Mills uses he has it wrong.perhaps those that are his "LEFT HAND MEN" are not the right ones.loyalty can only extent as long as your owqn neck.[/p][/quote]I think you're correct about the system needing a change (or at least a significant tweak) and of course, I was as unhappy as anyone else about yesterdays result and performance. I'm probably guilty, as are others, of giving Mills much more patience than managers would normally get because of last season. But I also honestly believe that Mills is a born winner; he won as a player, he won at Tamworth, and he won for us last season. If he makes a habit of losing, then maybe it's time for change - just not yet![/p][/quote]Mm, he was a winner at non league level, doesn't guarantee he can get the same success stepping up. What's worrying is that he still can't see that his beloved formation "that I've used throughout my career" isn't working, at least not at home. Maybe opposing managers have worked him out knowing he'll not change anything - too predictable you could say! He's backed himself into a corner and as the fans beg for a different set up, 442, he'll see it as a weakness if he goes for that. Most football managers are very stubborn and arrogant and that's usually their downfall. But supporters aren't totally stupid. Phil, Leeds
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8:46pm Sun 3 Feb 13

garnham says...

Must be awful playing in front of the BC crowd. Ever wondered why City perform in away matches
The faithful 200 - 300 fans make more noise in 10 minutes than a whole home match.
I don't expect there will be many players keen to stay to be abused at every home match.
Time for the so called supporters to review their performance so far not up to the standard needed to be 12th man in a home win !!!

OBVIOUSLY
Must be awful playing in front of the BC crowd. Ever wondered why City perform in away matches The faithful 200 - 300 fans make more noise in 10 minutes than a whole home match. I don't expect there will be many players keen to stay to be abused at every home match. Time for the so called supporters to review their performance so far not up to the standard needed to be 12th man in a home win !!! OBVIOUSLY garnham
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9:02pm Sun 3 Feb 13

arsene.about.york says...

garnham wrote:
Must be awful playing in front of the BC crowd. Ever wondered why City perform in away matches
The faithful 200 - 300 fans make more noise in 10 minutes than a whole home match.
I don't expect there will be many players keen to stay to be abused at every home match.
Time for the so called supporters to review their performance so far not up to the standard needed to be 12th man in a home win !!!

OBVIOUSLY
What planet do you live on ? It is up to the players to perform in home matches and at least give the fans something to sing and shout about. I would say that pro rata there are no more voiceferous fans anywhere than at BC. However, they/we do need something to shout about and we are just not getting it with the DROSS we are seeing week after week at home
[quote][p][bold]garnham[/bold] wrote: Must be awful playing in front of the BC crowd. Ever wondered why City perform in away matches The faithful 200 - 300 fans make more noise in 10 minutes than a whole home match. I don't expect there will be many players keen to stay to be abused at every home match. Time for the so called supporters to review their performance so far not up to the standard needed to be 12th man in a home win !!! OBVIOUSLY[/p][/quote]What planet do you live on ? It is up to the players to perform in home matches and at least give the fans something to sing and shout about. I would say that pro rata there are no more voiceferous fans anywhere than at BC. However, they/we do need something to shout about and we are just not getting it with the DROSS we are seeing week after week at home arsene.about.york
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9:26pm Sun 3 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

arsene.about.york wrote:
garnham wrote:
Must be awful playing in front of the BC crowd. Ever wondered why City perform in away matches
The faithful 200 - 300 fans make more noise in 10 minutes than a whole home match.
I don't expect there will be many players keen to stay to be abused at every home match.
Time for the so called supporters to review their performance so far not up to the standard needed to be 12th man in a home win !!!

OBVIOUSLY
What planet do you live on ? It is up to the players to perform in home matches and at least give the fans something to sing and shout about. I would say that pro rata there are no more voiceferous fans anywhere than at BC. However, they/we do need something to shout about and we are just not getting it with the DROSS we are seeing week after week at home
True, but we beat Burton decisively in front of an almost silent crowd. Can't remember a lot of noise when we smashed Bristol Rovers either. Compared to our very lively away support anyway.
[quote][p][bold]arsene.about.york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garnham[/bold] wrote: Must be awful playing in front of the BC crowd. Ever wondered why City perform in away matches The faithful 200 - 300 fans make more noise in 10 minutes than a whole home match. I don't expect there will be many players keen to stay to be abused at every home match. Time for the so called supporters to review their performance so far not up to the standard needed to be 12th man in a home win !!! OBVIOUSLY[/p][/quote]What planet do you live on ? It is up to the players to perform in home matches and at least give the fans something to sing and shout about. I would say that pro rata there are no more voiceferous fans anywhere than at BC. However, they/we do need something to shout about and we are just not getting it with the DROSS we are seeing week after week at home[/p][/quote]True, but we beat Burton decisively in front of an almost silent crowd. Can't remember a lot of noise when we smashed Bristol Rovers either. Compared to our very lively away support anyway. YorkCityLuke
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10:07pm Sun 3 Feb 13

duffy says...

garnham wrote:
Must be awful playing in front of the BC crowd. Ever wondered why City perform in away matches
The faithful 200 - 300 fans make more noise in 10 minutes than a whole home match.
I don't expect there will be many players keen to stay to be abused at every home match.
Time for the so called supporters to review their performance so far not up to the standard needed to be 12th man in a home win !!!

OBVIOUSLY
I always put down the away results including last seasons more to the formation we play working better when teams come at us and we counter. I don't remember the supporters turning on the team at home last season but we were still better away.
[quote][p][bold]garnham[/bold] wrote: Must be awful playing in front of the BC crowd. Ever wondered why City perform in away matches The faithful 200 - 300 fans make more noise in 10 minutes than a whole home match. I don't expect there will be many players keen to stay to be abused at every home match. Time for the so called supporters to review their performance so far not up to the standard needed to be 12th man in a home win !!! OBVIOUSLY[/p][/quote]I always put down the away results including last seasons more to the formation we play working better when teams come at us and we counter. I don't remember the supporters turning on the team at home last season but we were still better away. duffy
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10:13pm Sun 3 Feb 13

York Manor says...

sixtyfourfive wrote:
Am as disappointed as the rest over yesterday and have refrained from commenting until now. As usual some very sensible and considered comments but also some utter garbage eg "Ingham worst keeper in Div 2." Get real? Our second half performance was poor BUT if good chances (eg Paddy Mac twice) had been put away at critical points we could well have had 3 points and would probably have had about 12 comments on this forum. The nature of League 2 is that Morecambe will probably get stuffed at home next week and we will win at Wycombe - players/teams at this level are notoriously inconsistent. Putting things into perspective we are around mid table which is what most expect and where I believe we will finish. I agree our tactics suit away better than home and Mills seems a little stubborn on changing things in that area but I do believe there is something of a caustic atmosphere at home not evident away which does not help. Poor performance but total over reaction by some!
I am getting real chief seen it all before, we have a poor keeper with no competition for his place. We are struggling at the moment, no mid table finish is a done deal, I believe we will get sucked in to a relegation battle.
You miss the point we miss chances every week which had we taken them would have changed the out come. Trouble is we consistently dont!
We have a poor defence coupled with poor finishing means trouble.
[quote][p][bold]sixtyfourfive[/bold] wrote: Am as disappointed as the rest over yesterday and have refrained from commenting until now. As usual some very sensible and considered comments but also some utter garbage eg "Ingham worst keeper in Div 2." Get real? Our second half performance was poor BUT if good chances (eg Paddy Mac twice) had been put away at critical points we could well have had 3 points and would probably have had about 12 comments on this forum. The nature of League 2 is that Morecambe will probably get stuffed at home next week and we will win at Wycombe - players/teams at this level are notoriously inconsistent. Putting things into perspective we are around mid table which is what most expect and where I believe we will finish. I agree our tactics suit away better than home and Mills seems a little stubborn on changing things in that area but I do believe there is something of a caustic atmosphere at home not evident away which does not help. Poor performance but total over reaction by some![/p][/quote]I am getting real chief seen it all before, we have a poor keeper with no competition for his place. We are struggling at the moment, no mid table finish is a done deal, I believe we will get sucked in to a relegation battle. You miss the point we miss chances every week which had we taken them would have changed the out come. Trouble is we consistently dont! We have a poor defence coupled with poor finishing means trouble. York Manor
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12:00am Mon 4 Feb 13

uhtred says...

No one can be satisfied with what happened on Saturday, or our home form but a lot of comments, but not all,are completely OTT. Win next week and this forum will be full of just as ridiculous comments, but concerning promotion, get some perspective.

Not so long ago certain posters were slating Chambers, now seemingly the reason we are not winning is because of his absence.

Why are people having a go at Des Lyttle, I am not defending him, but what do they know about his role in the club, who has said he is the defensive coach? I think they have been taken in by the media and are comparing him to Steve Bould and the critcism he hs been getting at Arsenal where he is clearly employed as defensive coach.

It was obvious why Smith was pushed up front, we were not winning any headers, and I have not seen Reedy winning many headers when given the chance to lead the front line.

The 2 chances that fell to us beforethey scored their second, Paddy and Parslow, were not close in and thus would not have fallen to Reed, thus the poster who said he would have put them away is talking rubbish. That is not to say Parslow, at least, should not have scored.

Ingham poor, you have to be joking he has saved many a goal this season that would have defeated others. Clearly he was partly to blame for the second goal with his air shot, but not many goals this season have been down to him and even the best make mistakes

I have said this before we need someone up front to win the high ball, otherwise we willl not create real chances and continue, at least at home, to be easily managed by the opposition defence. Thus despite City having the upper hand the opposition will remain in the game rather than be killed off, and be in with a chance, as again happened on Saturday.

Right footers are never any good at left back as they constantly have to play infield or pass backwards. O'Connell looked good, is left footed and looked as though he could take the ball forward. As someone suggested try him at left back and get McGurk back in central defence where he should have been on Saturday.

It was also a big mistake not playing and keeping Jonathan Smith, not the best passer of the ball, but he was commited and a ball winner and would have not allowed the opposition as much possession as we did on Saturday.

We may be in a relegation battle, we may be in with a chance of promotion, the league is so tight no one knows how it will turn out but the extremes of criticism and praise from match to match are laughable.
No one can be satisfied with what happened on Saturday, or our home form but a lot of comments, but not all,are completely OTT. Win next week and this forum will be full of just as ridiculous comments, but concerning promotion, get some perspective. Not so long ago certain posters were slating Chambers, now seemingly the reason we are not winning is because of his absence. Why are people having a go at Des Lyttle, I am not defending him, but what do they know about his role in the club, who has said he is the defensive coach? I think they have been taken in by the media and are comparing him to Steve Bould and the critcism he hs been getting at Arsenal where he is clearly employed as defensive coach. It was obvious why Smith was pushed up front, we were not winning any headers, and I have not seen Reedy winning many headers when given the chance to lead the front line. The 2 chances that fell to us beforethey scored their second, Paddy and Parslow, were not close in and thus would not have fallen to Reed, thus the poster who said he would have put them away is talking rubbish. That is not to say Parslow, at least, should not have scored. Ingham poor, you have to be joking he has saved many a goal this season that would have defeated others. Clearly he was partly to blame for the second goal with his air shot, but not many goals this season have been down to him and even the best make mistakes I have said this before we need someone up front to win the high ball, otherwise we willl not create real chances and continue, at least at home, to be easily managed by the opposition defence. Thus despite City having the upper hand the opposition will remain in the game rather than be killed off, and be in with a chance, as again happened on Saturday. Right footers are never any good at left back as they constantly have to play infield or pass backwards. O'Connell looked good, is left footed and looked as though he could take the ball forward. As someone suggested try him at left back and get McGurk back in central defence where he should have been on Saturday. It was also a big mistake not playing and keeping Jonathan Smith, not the best passer of the ball, but he was commited and a ball winner and would have not allowed the opposition as much possession as we did on Saturday. We may be in a relegation battle, we may be in with a chance of promotion, the league is so tight no one knows how it will turn out but the extremes of criticism and praise from match to match are laughable. uhtred
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1:14am Mon 4 Feb 13

GreenshawGrinder says...

Time to be realistic, the league table doesn't tell lies. Only seven teams are now below us, of those seven, three have two games in hand on us the other has one.
Why could we soon be in a relegation battle? The answer is easy, seventeen points out of a possible forty five at home. Mid-table is possible but not a certainty.
Time to be realistic, the league table doesn't tell lies. Only seven teams are now below us, of those seven, three have two games in hand on us the other has one. Why could we soon be in a relegation battle? The answer is easy, seventeen points out of a possible forty five at home. Mid-table is possible but not a certainty. GreenshawGrinder
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4:53am Mon 4 Feb 13

YoRkIe59 says...

Its pretty clear by now Mills either cant or won,t change tactics at home,he seems to have made that quite clear on interviews etc.As for the post regarding jonothan Smith being commited,oh yeah he was commited alright just not to us.
Its pretty clear by now Mills either cant or won,t change tactics at home,he seems to have made that quite clear on interviews etc.As for the post regarding jonothan Smith being commited,oh yeah he was commited alright just not to us. YoRkIe59
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7:24am Mon 4 Feb 13

uhtred says...

YoRkIe59 wrote:
Its pretty clear by now Mills either cant or won,t change tactics at home,he seems to have made that quite clear on interviews etc.As for the post regarding jonothan Smith being commited,oh yeah he was commited alright just not to us.
Only after he was dropped and put out on loan. Brought in to do a job and never given a proper chance to do it. Mills knew his skills and limitations before he signed him and then did not play him. Currently we are failing to win 50/50 balls, an area he excelled at.
[quote][p][bold]YoRkIe59[/bold] wrote: Its pretty clear by now Mills either cant or won,t change tactics at home,he seems to have made that quite clear on interviews etc.As for the post regarding jonothan Smith being commited,oh yeah he was commited alright just not to us.[/p][/quote]Only after he was dropped and put out on loan. Brought in to do a job and never given a proper chance to do it. Mills knew his skills and limitations before he signed him and then did not play him. Currently we are failing to win 50/50 balls, an area he excelled at. uhtred
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10:16am Mon 4 Feb 13

Tug job says...

It has been very interesting to read the knee jerk reactions on this site - it is clear that a fair number of posters didn't actually attend the match. Those that did will know how closely fought it was, certainly until Ingham's howler (at 2-1 down we had to push for the equaliser and they picked us off - much in the same way that we do when we play away_, but by that time we could, with better finishing, have been 3-1 up; such is the margin of success or failure in football. Was Des Lyttle employed as a defence coach - I am not so sure? Are gates actually "dwindling" - they are around 750 up on last season's average. I recall that we had already made our 3 substitutions before Chris Smith (I must admit I was surprised by this!) was pushed forwards, so bringing on Reedy at this point wasn't an option. We certainly have improvements to make, particularly at home, and I am sure the management team are well aware of these and are trying to put theses into effect, but all the coaching and training in the world does not guarantee that individual errors will not happen (Ingham's howler, Paddy and Parslow's poor finishing). Talk of sacking the manager now is ludicrous and would achieve nothing; in any case, can we afford to do this? I know people are upset by the score but, in reality, there was very little between the sides - fair play to Morecambe, they played to their strengths, picked us off and took their chances- absolutely nothing wrong with being beaten by the better team on the day. And, yes, I shall be going down to Wycombe next weekend. COYR
It has been very interesting to read the knee jerk reactions on this site - it is clear that a fair number of posters didn't actually attend the match. Those that did will know how closely fought it was, certainly until Ingham's howler (at 2-1 down we had to push for the equaliser and they picked us off - much in the same way that we do when we play away_, but by that time we could, with better finishing, have been 3-1 up; such is the margin of success or failure in football. Was Des Lyttle employed as a defence coach - I am not so sure? Are gates actually "dwindling" - they are around 750 up on last season's average. I recall that we had already made our 3 substitutions before Chris Smith (I must admit I was surprised by this!) was pushed forwards, so bringing on Reedy at this point wasn't an option. We certainly have improvements to make, particularly at home, and I am sure the management team are well aware of these and are trying to put theses into effect, but all the coaching and training in the world does not guarantee that individual errors will not happen (Ingham's howler, Paddy and Parslow's poor finishing). Talk of sacking the manager now is ludicrous and would achieve nothing; in any case, can we afford to do this? I know people are upset by the score but, in reality, there was very little between the sides - fair play to Morecambe, they played to their strengths, picked us off and took their chances- absolutely nothing wrong with being beaten by the better team on the day. And, yes, I shall be going down to Wycombe next weekend. COYR Tug job
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10:19am Mon 4 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

There was no adverse crowd reaction against the team on Saturday, until the final whistle went. So nobody should try to blame the fans at Bootham Crescent. We get better results away from home because of the formation that we play, soaking up pressure and then attacking on the break. As a season ticket holder I have seen every home game, and I can count on one hand the games that we have played well. Home fans have the patience of a saint, and the loyalty to match. But our poor showings at Bootham Crescent are the reason why we are flirting with relegation.
There was no adverse crowd reaction against the team on Saturday, until the final whistle went. So nobody should try to blame the fans at Bootham Crescent. We get better results away from home because of the formation that we play, soaking up pressure and then attacking on the break. As a season ticket holder I have seen every home game, and I can count on one hand the games that we have played well. Home fans have the patience of a saint, and the loyalty to match. But our poor showings at Bootham Crescent are the reason why we are flirting with relegation. OLD - HEAD
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11:03am Mon 4 Feb 13

Tug job says...

When we lose this forum goes into meltdown; when we win there's barely a peep!
When we lose this forum goes into meltdown; when we win there's barely a peep! Tug job
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11:39am Mon 4 Feb 13

YoRkIe59 says...

on what do you base the statement we are secure in this league tim,you dont have to be a gloom an doom merchant to recognise we are a few points away from that yet.
on what do you base the statement we are secure in this league tim,you dont have to be a gloom an doom merchant to recognise we are a few points away from that yet. YoRkIe59
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12:44pm Mon 4 Feb 13

iandwightbenton says...

We need strikers we bring in defenders...

C Smith actually worked hard up front and I'm not saying Walker doesn't but he needs help....even Rankine could do a job for us in my opinion yet he can't get near Aldershots first 11.

Blair scored a lot last season after being given good service - Rodman is rubbish.

We do lightweight though and I have seen us muscled off the ball and out of games against Cheltenham, Morecambe and Plymouth this season.

We are crying out for a 442
We need strikers we bring in defenders... C Smith actually worked hard up front and I'm not saying Walker doesn't but he needs help....even Rankine could do a job for us in my opinion yet he can't get near Aldershots first 11. Blair scored a lot last season after being given good service - Rodman is rubbish. We do lightweight though and I have seen us muscled off the ball and out of games against Cheltenham, Morecambe and Plymouth this season. We are crying out for a 442 iandwightbenton
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1:04pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Paul29 says...

When you look at our experience compared to other teams its no wonder we do so badly at times. Total league experience of our starting line up - 666 games (177) without Ingham, Kerr and Smith. Total league games of Morecambe's starting 11 - 2672 games. Combined with size, strength and skill, experience counts.
When you look at our experience compared to other teams its no wonder we do so badly at times. Total league experience of our starting line up - 666 games (177) without Ingham, Kerr and Smith. Total league games of Morecambe's starting 11 - 2672 games. Combined with size, strength and skill, experience counts. Paul29
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