York City boss Gary Mills 'aggrieved' over nature of Capital One Cup penalty exit

YORK City manager Gary Mills was left “aggrieved” after his side were denied the opportunity to take penalties in front of their own fans at Doncaster Rovers.

The Minstermen were knocked out of the Capital One Cup at the Keepmoat Stadium after 90 minutes and extra time could not separate the two teams with Michael Coulson’s 67th-minute goal being cancelled out by a Chris Brown spot kick, conceded by Lee Bullock.

But the subsequent penalty shoot-out was played out in front of home fans at an end designated as the safest by police.

Coulson and substitute Matty Blair went on to fire their 12-yard efforts over the bar as Rovers secured a 4-2 triumph, leaving Mills to question why referee Graham Salisbury had not informed him that the hosts would be handed that advantage prior to kick off.

The City chief said: “The police decided that the penalties had to be taken at that end but that didn’t make sense to me. I thought that would have been decided by a toss-up so I felt a bit aggrieved about it.

“I don’t understand why the police have to get involved and, if that was going to be the case, we should have been told before kick off because we worked hard to get through extra-time.

“That’s perhaps a learning curve for the referee but there’s no point in going on about that because we’ve been knocked out now.

“Penalties cost us at the end of the day – they stuck theirs in and two of our players ballooned them over the bar.

“We also conceded a silly one in normal time and, while I wouldn’t quite say we were comfortable, I couldn’t see them scoring before that and I was confident we could keep a clean sheet.”

Mills added the Minstermen’s performance against a club that were plying their trade three divisions higher than his team last season bodes well for the new League Two campaign, which kicks off at home to Wycombe on Saturday.

The City boss said: “I’m gutted because we lost the game but there were a lot of positives. We showed that we should not fear anybody this season if we play like that.

“Doncaster were relegated from the Championship last season but we worked hard and got our noses in front with a great goal. If it had been a 90-minute game, we would have been coming away with a draw from Doncaster and, a few years ago, we would have also got a replay but that’s not the case now.”

Mills went on to praise debutant Coulson, who, prior to his penalty miss, marked the start to his competitive City career with a spectacular opening goal.

“Couls did well,” Mills said. “He worked hard and topped it off with a great goal. He’s started to score in the last few weeks. He’s a player who will keep going but he’s got that bit of quality to do what he did as well and I was delighted with him.”

The City boss added playing two hours of football could now aid his team’s preparations ahead of the meeting with Wycombe.

“You can look at the match as an extension of our pre-season and a fantastic workout for next weekend,” he reasoned. “We’ve played for two hours and we will now need to give our players the right amount of training and rest.

“I wanted to progress in the competition and, hopefully, get one of the big sides for finances but we will be ready for a fantastic game for a fantastic football club on Saturday.”

Comments(60)

OB-1 says...
4:21pm Sun 12 Aug 12

Stinks, really does stick in your throat. I'd be certain our 12th man would have made a great difference if it had been in front of the City fans ........

Of course the Doncaster end was safest ....... IT WAS EMPTY!!!!!

oldmanvecrayke says...
4:59pm Sun 12 Aug 12

I'd like to know how many we took yesterday , because we looked like we had close to their numbers , and certainly out sang them throughout the game. On the footballing side I think there was very little difference between both sides, if any thing I thought we sometimes played too much long ball. Wish Potts had been given longer , he looked really sharp . Enjoyed the day though, even the wife did, and thats saying summat !!!!!!!!!!!!!

YorkCityLuke says...
5:07pm Sun 12 Aug 12

Never mind, it was a good effort and an entertaining match to listen to. If we can force a draw out of a recently relegated Championship side, we should be able to hold our own against the vast majority of League 2 sides. Practice penalties though! Or at least designate a penalty taker who has a good success rate. I know the shoot-out may have been a one-off event, but we seem to have problems with penalties more generally. I like Walker, he's a good striker and he works hard (and even his free kicks are pretty good), but we should assign a different player to take penalties - if only because every penalty missed by Walker hurts his confidence for the rest of the game. I'd pick a midfielder to do it, less damage to the players confidence if they miss.

alimount says...
5:32pm Sun 12 Aug 12

Not surprised the police intervined because a small number of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday. One bloke got arrested for abusing a steward, racially motivated the police reckon. Not to mention the 'big' fans who wouldn't sit down when asked, then physically and verbally abused those around them.
Welcome back football. Nothing more proud than seeing that behaviour on what should've been a celebratory day.
Could've cost us the game in what might have been a slight advantage in the shoot out. Hope you are proud of yourselves.

billoofyork says...
5:53pm Sun 12 Aug 12

alimount wrote:
Not surprised the police intervined because a small number of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday. One bloke got arrested for abusing a steward, racially motivated the police reckon. Not to mention the 'big' fans who wouldn't sit down when asked, then physically and verbally abused those around them.
Welcome back football. Nothing more proud than seeing that behaviour on what should've been a celebratory day.
Could've cost us the game in what might have been a slight advantage in the shoot out. Hope you are proud of yourselves.
Seems little over the top. Most of the fans standing were supporting their team. If some were abusive then fair enough to get them out but on the whole our fans were loud and proud yesterday. Plus don't forget that a lot of City fans stand at our matches so sitting is alien. You may well be a Main stand or Pop stand dweller but on some occasions we are all in there together and it does lead to mixed feelings on standing / sitting. Personally I sat down as others around me were sitting but would prefer to stand

uhtred says...
6:25pm Sun 12 Aug 12

alimount wrote:
Not surprised the police intervined because a small number of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday. One bloke got arrested for abusing a steward, racially motivated the police reckon. Not to mention the 'big' fans who wouldn't sit down when asked, then physically and verbally abused those around them. Welcome back football. Nothing more proud than seeing that behaviour on what should've been a celebratory day. Could've cost us the game in what might have been a slight advantage in the shoot out. Hope you are proud of yourselves.
Absolutely agree, fair enough if you want to stand momentarily to show support or in excitement to see the critical action, but if you want to do it for the majority or all of the game do it where the like minded were standing; there were plenty of spaces to do so. One guy who was with his girlfriend in a mainly seated area asked a small group in front to sit down and he was verbally abused and physically assaulted, and when he complained to the stewards they mereley suggested he moved rather than they confront the offenders. What was worse the standing group of 3 included a father and son and the father was the worst of them and his son copied his behaviour, great parenting.Not the thing to encourage new support when you come across behaviuor such as this!
In another incident a young cocky individual refused to sit down on the basis that he did not sit in the Longhirst, not surprising as there are no seats there, I bet these individuals would have complained if they could not get a seat on the train home!
Pure selfishness when they could have fed their herd behaviour nearby amongst like minded individuals.
Good performance by City though and unlucky not to go through.

heartbreaker says...
6:37pm Sun 12 Aug 12

Re : above comments about seating. Probably the same bunch of idiots that got kicked out at Bolton in the cup season before last. I'd rather stand but I'm not going to verbally abuse and threaten physical abuse to an elder gent sat with his grandson, which one angry young man did at Bolton, and when the stewards intervened about another 10 - 15 decided to get involved. Embarassing.

Anyway good result yesterday, shame about the pens, and we still need a striker. Highly doubting Walker will be able to cut it in the football league.

jumbojet says...
9:35pm Sun 12 Aug 12

'Aggreived'. Yes, so am I, to miss penalties like we did is total incompetence. We have just watched individuals at the Olympics making us proud, winning, not missing the target, not messing up when called up to the line. Part of pre-season should have included penalty taking, that was a bad show, and a bad start, we should have been in the second round draw.

petedrfc says...
10:00pm Sun 12 Aug 12

Lets face it, gary mills is not happy because his team didnt win. all this simpy is, is a man whos got tity lip on. if the penalties would have been taken infront of the york fans he would of been happy and if rovers would have been knocked out it would be a completely different story. at the end of the day its your own fault because you didnt stick your spot kicks away so just get over it. stop blaming rovers and the police just pathetic, its how you take your chances, and if the rovers fans being behind the goal really made a difference then the york city lads who missed the penalties arent good enough are they.

yorkshirebornandbred says...
10:20pm Sun 12 Aug 12

petedrfc, how can you say all that. Blatantly it is a clear advantage because if taken at the york end, the rovers players would've actually seen a crowd (rare maybe?) and so may have been put off, the police shouldn't have intervened at all, but like you said, i agree that we should have scored pens, an easy chance from 12 yards and should have at least got them on target!!

oldmanvecrayke says...
10:45pm Sun 12 Aug 12

petedrfc wrote:
Lets face it, gary mills is not happy because his team didnt win. all this simpy is, is a man whos got tity lip on. if the penalties would have been taken infront of the york fans he would of been happy and if rovers would have been knocked out it would be a completely different story. at the end of the day its your own fault because you didnt stick your spot kicks away so just get over it. stop blaming rovers and the police just pathetic, its how you take your chances, and if the rovers fans being behind the goal really made a difference then the york city lads who missed the penalties arent good enough are they.
Well hopefully we can quickly get this game out of our system and start our league two season on Saturday with a win. I wouldn't be happy if I was manager and my team had gone out on penalties , but we did draw away from home with a side who last year were championship when we were conference, and we clearly had a far better support , so I dont think we are the ones who should be worrying !!!!!!!!!!

petedrfc says...
10:51pm Sun 12 Aug 12

oldmanvecrayke wrote:
petedrfc wrote:
Lets face it, gary mills is not happy because his team didnt win. all this simpy is, is a man whos got tity lip on. if the penalties would have been taken infront of the york fans he would of been happy and if rovers would have been knocked out it would be a completely different story. at the end of the day its your own fault because you didnt stick your spot kicks away so just get over it. stop blaming rovers and the police just pathetic, its how you take your chances, and if the rovers fans being behind the goal really made a difference then the york city lads who missed the penalties arent good enough are they.
Well hopefully we can quickly get this game out of our system and start our league two season on Saturday with a win. I wouldn't be happy if I was manager and my team had gone out on penalties , but we did draw away from home with a side who last year were championship when we were conference, and we clearly had a far better support , so I dont think we are the ones who should be worrying !!!!!!!!!!
not once said you should be worried did i. and to be fair to donny were in a rebuilding period and any lower league team can out play a bigger team on the day its been proved plenty of times before and will be proved lots of times in the future. end of the day the york manager is upset his team didnt go through, which is understandable but maybe should look at his own players who cant take a penalty and not blame everyone and everything else.

petedrfc says...
10:58pm Sun 12 Aug 12

yorkshirebornandbred wrote:
petedrfc, how can you say all that. Blatantly it is a clear advantage because if taken at the york end, the rovers players would've actually seen a crowd (rare maybe?) and so may have been put off, the police shouldn't have intervened at all, but like you said, i agree that we should have scored pens, an easy chance from 12 yards and should have at least got them on target!!
basically what your saying is that because it wasnt infront of your fans its unfair, but what if if had been infront of york fans it obviously wouldnt be fair on rovers so would that give us a reason to moan and get arse on ... no it wouldnt. york are a professional club with professional players if there not good enough to score a penalty then maybe look at your own players why you didnt go through not blame police. how many times have teams lost of penalties in massive cup games i.e. finals and semi finals and the clubs and players said that the penalties were took good enough ... why cant you do the same just admit your players took apauling penalties and stop blaming everything and everyone just pathetic making yourself and your club look petty and craving for attention in any way you can

selbyred says...
11:11pm Sun 12 Aug 12

petedrfc wrote:
yorkshirebornandbred wrote:
petedrfc, how can you say all that. Blatantly it is a clear advantage because if taken at the york end, the rovers players would've actually seen a crowd (rare maybe?) and so may have been put off, the police shouldn't have intervened at all, but like you said, i agree that we should have scored pens, an easy chance from 12 yards and should have at least got them on target!!
basically what your saying is that because it wasnt infront of your fans its unfair, but what if if had been infront of york fans it obviously wouldnt be fair on rovers so would that give us a reason to moan and get arse on ... no it wouldnt. york are a professional club with professional players if there not good enough to score a penalty then maybe look at your own players why you didnt go through not blame police. how many times have teams lost of penalties in massive cup games i.e. finals and semi finals and the clubs and players said that the penalties were took good enough ... why cant you do the same just admit your players took apauling penalties and stop blaming everything and everyone just pathetic making yourself and your club look petty and craving for attention in any way you can
Or alternatively you could get a life and find something better to do on a sun night than to come on here and attempt to wind opposing fans up.

PDH says...
11:17pm Sun 12 Aug 12

petedrfc wrote:
yorkshirebornandbred wrote:
petedrfc, how can you say all that. Blatantly it is a clear advantage because if taken at the york end, the rovers players would've actually seen a crowd (rare maybe?) and so may have been put off, the police shouldn't have intervened at all, but like you said, i agree that we should have scored pens, an easy chance from 12 yards and should have at least got them on target!!
basically what your saying is that because it wasnt infront of your fans its unfair, but what if if had been infront of york fans it obviously wouldnt be fair on rovers so would that give us a reason to moan and get arse on ... no it wouldnt. york are a professional club with professional players if there not good enough to score a penalty then maybe look at your own players why you didnt go through not blame police. how many times have teams lost of penalties in massive cup games i.e. finals and semi finals and the clubs and players said that the penalties were took good enough ... why cant you do the same just admit your players took apauling penalties and stop blaming everything and everyone just pathetic making yourself and your club look petty and craving for attention in any way you can
Christ, in our non league days it was luton fans butting in on our site, lets hope we dont now have to put up with donny fans doing the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

duffy says...
11:23pm Sun 12 Aug 12

petedrfc wrote:
yorkshirebornandbred wrote:
petedrfc, how can you say all that. Blatantly it is a clear advantage because if taken at the york end, the rovers players would've actually seen a crowd (rare maybe?) and so may have been put off, the police shouldn't have intervened at all, but like you said, i agree that we should have scored pens, an easy chance from 12 yards and should have at least got them on target!!
basically what your saying is that because it wasnt infront of your fans its unfair, but what if if had been infront of york fans it obviously wouldnt be fair on rovers so would that give us a reason to moan and get arse on ... no it wouldnt. york are a professional club with professional players if there not good enough to score a penalty then maybe look at your own players why you didnt go through not blame police. how many times have teams lost of penalties in massive cup games i.e. finals and semi finals and the clubs and players said that the penalties were took good enough ... why cant you do the same just admit your players took apauling penalties and stop blaming everything and everyone just pathetic making yourself and your club look petty and craving for attention in any way you can
Jeez how old are you ? I can't say I have ever heard of the police deciding which end penalties are taken at, Donny would have been just as upset if it had been the other way. Might not have made any difference but hey you are through and we will see you in the league next season if we don't pass you going up.

JamesHinch says...
7:58am Mon 13 Aug 12

Just wish an old guy like me could sit down peacefully in my seat without having to stand up 3 quarters of the time.
Probably won't go to many away games this season if its going to be like that.

The Mc says...
8:26am Mon 13 Aug 12

Just shows that the new stadium should be a mixture of seating and standing. By all means have seats either side of the pitch but just have terracing behind each goal, that will increase the capacity to well over 6,000 and put seats in later if the club progresses.

billoofyork says...
8:47am Mon 13 Aug 12

petedrfc wrote:
yorkshirebornandbred wrote:
petedrfc, how can you say all that. Blatantly it is a clear advantage because if taken at the york end, the rovers players would've actually seen a crowd (rare maybe?) and so may have been put off, the police shouldn't have intervened at all, but like you said, i agree that we should have scored pens, an easy chance from 12 yards and should have at least got them on target!!
basically what your saying is that because it wasnt infront of your fans its unfair, but what if if had been infront of york fans it obviously wouldnt be fair on rovers so would that give us a reason to moan and get arse on ... no it wouldnt. york are a professional club with professional players if there not good enough to score a penalty then maybe look at your own players why you didnt go through not blame police. how many times have teams lost of penalties in massive cup games i.e. finals and semi finals and the clubs and players said that the penalties were took good enough ... why cant you do the same just admit your players took apauling penalties and stop blaming everything and everyone just pathetic making yourself and your club look petty and craving for attention in any way you can
petedrfc i think you are missing the point that we were not given the opportunity to win a coin toss to see what end the pens should have been taken from. the police took this decision in their 'wisdom' - clearly rovers fans desperate to gain an advantage over a team that were 3 divisions below them last year. agree we should have scored the pens though, we need to work on them. in future stick to your own forums or at least get your facts straight

Phil, Leeds says...
9:21am Mon 13 Aug 12

alimount wrote:
Not surprised the police intervined because a small number of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday. One bloke got arrested for abusing a steward, racially motivated the police reckon. Not to mention the 'big' fans who wouldn't sit down when asked, then physically and verbally abused those around them.
Welcome back football. Nothing more proud than seeing that behaviour on what should've been a celebratory day.
Could've cost us the game in what might have been a slight advantage in the shoot out. Hope you are proud of yourselves.
Fair point. There's some real numpties that follow our Club away sadly.

Phil, Leeds says...
9:31am Mon 13 Aug 12

At the end of the day it was a decent performance by City against higher league opposition but we gave away a silly penalty and then weren't good enough on the penalties - 2 of the worst spot kicks you'll ever see. Many of us have been concerned about the competence of our penalty takers this last few years and this needs sorting out. Surely there must be someone in the squad who is competent from 12 yards! Anyway the main action starts on Saturday and there's good reason to be optimistic this season.

OLD - HEAD says...
9:43am Mon 13 Aug 12

99.99% of our fans at Doncaster were brilliant. All they wanted to do was cheer and sing to encourage their team. But every club has the "odd idiot", and we are no exception. The guy who got thrown out, still wanted to fight the police outside the ground. As one of the coppers said to me "Some people will never ever learn". I doubt very much if changing ends would have altered the outcome of this tie. We lost, lets just accept that and move on.

Old_Man says...
9:47am Mon 13 Aug 12

Last time I went to see York City I couldn't stop laughing at the pathetic group of "hooligans" calling themselves "Nomads". Most of them could barely string a sentence of abuse together! It was then that I realised it was a waste of time and money going to football matches. Too much pondlife for my liking.

Paul2012 says...
10:09am Mon 13 Aug 12

Back down to reality, Now let's be realistic and positive.

Mid-Table

"Win the capital one cup" - Really!!

paintitred says...
10:53am Mon 13 Aug 12

Paul2012 wrote:
Back down to reality, Now let's be realistic and positive.

Mid-Table

"Win the capital one cup" - Really!!
TROLL ALERT,

is that you wellbeck!!!

;-).

Paul2012 says...
11:42am Mon 13 Aug 12

Not a troll simply just realistic with our chances.

Mid- table with our current squad.

It's embarrassing making statements like that, then going out in the first round.

Yeahbutno says...
12:04pm Mon 13 Aug 12

uhtred wrote:
alimount wrote:
Not surprised the police intervined because a small number of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday. One bloke got arrested for abusing a steward, racially motivated the police reckon. Not to mention the 'big' fans who wouldn't sit down when asked, then physically and verbally abused those around them. Welcome back football. Nothing more proud than seeing that behaviour on what should've been a celebratory day. Could've cost us the game in what might have been a slight advantage in the shoot out. Hope you are proud of yourselves.
Absolutely agree, fair enough if you want to stand momentarily to show support or in excitement to see the critical action, but if you want to do it for the majority or all of the game do it where the like minded were standing; there were plenty of spaces to do so. One guy who was with his girlfriend in a mainly seated area asked a small group in front to sit down and he was verbally abused and physically assaulted, and when he complained to the stewards they mereley suggested he moved rather than they confront the offenders. What was worse the standing group of 3 included a father and son and the father was the worst of them and his son copied his behaviour, great parenting.Not the thing to encourage new support when you come across behaviuor such as this!
In another incident a young cocky individual refused to sit down on the basis that he did not sit in the Longhirst, not surprising as there are no seats there, I bet these individuals would have complained if they could not get a seat on the train home!
Pure selfishness when they could have fed their herd behaviour nearby amongst like minded individuals.
Good performance by City though and unlucky not to go through.
I assume father/son v lad/girlfriend was the incident which happened close to me in the first half, and it didn't quite happen like you describe. The person behind actually jumped into the bloke's seat who was standing, and dished out a torrent of abuse, along with his girlfriend. There followed a bit of pushing, but certainly not a "phsyical assault". Neither party covered themselves in glory, but to go off crying to the stewards about an incident which he had started was pathetic.
There were plenty of spare seats very close by (including two right next to me) , and they could very easily have moved without causing any hassle whatsoever.

Phil, Leeds says...
12:12pm Mon 13 Aug 12

paintitred wrote:
Paul2012 wrote:
Back down to reality, Now let's be realistic and positive.

Mid-Table

"Win the capital one cup" - Really!!
TROLL ALERT,

is that you wellbeck!!!

;-).
I guess Paul2012 was just putting forward his own viewpoint which he's completely entitled to do. Just because it doesn't tally with your own opinion doesn't justify abuse.

Paul2012 says...
12:18pm Mon 13 Aug 12

"The person behind actually jumped into the bloke's seat who was standing" - How do you jump into a seat??

Yeahbutno says...
12:25pm Mon 13 Aug 12

Paul2012 wrote:
"The person behind actually jumped into the bloke's seat who was standing" - How do you jump into a seat??
Bloke is standing up. Lad behind jumps down and sits in his seat.

king-albert says...
12:37pm Mon 13 Aug 12

alimount wrote:
Not surprised the police intervined because a small number of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday. One bloke got arrested for abusing a steward, racially motivated the police reckon. Not to mention the 'big' fans who wouldn't sit down when asked, then physically and verbally abused those around them.
Welcome back football. Nothing more proud than seeing that behaviour on what should've been a celebratory day.
Could've cost us the game in what might have been a slight advantage in the shoot out. Hope you are proud of yourselves.
Absolutely agree - the game was spoiled for many of us by mindless comments and actions.
And as for "If you love city stand up" do the instigators actually watch the game?
On more than one occasion city were playing excellent football and deserved the admiration of their supporters not inane "Groundhog Day" rubbish.

Paul2012 says...
12:40pm Mon 13 Aug 12

Blimey my legs can hardly fit in one seat never mind two grown adults in that space.

Seems fictional to me.

selbyred says...
1:00pm Mon 13 Aug 12

king-albert wrote:
alimount wrote:
Not surprised the police intervined because a small number of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday. One bloke got arrested for abusing a steward, racially motivated the police reckon. Not to mention the 'big' fans who wouldn't sit down when asked, then physically and verbally abused those around them.
Welcome back football. Nothing more proud than seeing that behaviour on what should've been a celebratory day.
Could've cost us the game in what might have been a slight advantage in the shoot out. Hope you are proud of yourselves.
Absolutely agree - the game was spoiled for many of us by mindless comments and actions.
And as for "If you love city stand up" do the instigators actually watch the game?
On more than one occasion city were playing excellent football and deserved the admiration of their supporters not inane "Groundhog Day" rubbish.
Yeah you're right,everybody should just sit there in silence all game like they're in a library.

Yeahbutno says...
1:02pm Mon 13 Aug 12

Paul2012 wrote:
Blimey my legs can hardly fit in one seat never mind two grown adults in that space.

Seems fictional to me.
I can assure you it isn't fiction...I watched it unfold right in front of me.

Yeahbutno says...
1:05pm Mon 13 Aug 12

king-albert wrote:
alimount wrote:
Not surprised the police intervined because a small number of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday. One bloke got arrested for abusing a steward, racially motivated the police reckon. Not to mention the 'big' fans who wouldn't sit down when asked, then physically and verbally abused those around them.
Welcome back football. Nothing more proud than seeing that behaviour on what should've been a celebratory day.
Could've cost us the game in what might have been a slight advantage in the shoot out. Hope you are proud of yourselves.
Absolutely agree - the game was spoiled for many of us by mindless comments and actions.
And as for "If you love city stand up" do the instigators actually watch the game?
On more than one occasion city were playing excellent football and deserved the admiration of their supporters not inane "Groundhog Day" rubbish.
On a day when the club had magnificent support in big numbers, most of whom got right behind the team, you're complaining about people singing? If you wanted a quiet afternoon you should have gone in the Donny end, there certainly wasn't much noise there.

minstermonster says...
1:05pm Mon 13 Aug 12

billoofyork wrote:
alimount wrote:
Not surprised the police intervined because a small number of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday. One bloke got arrested for abusing a steward, racially motivated the police reckon. Not to mention the 'big' fans who wouldn't sit down when asked, then physically and verbally abused those around them.
Welcome back football. Nothing more proud than seeing that behaviour on what should've been a celebratory day.
Could've cost us the game in what might have been a slight advantage in the shoot out. Hope you are proud of yourselves.
Seems little over the top. Most of the fans standing were supporting their team. If some were abusive then fair enough to get them out but on the whole our fans were loud and proud yesterday. Plus don't forget that a lot of City fans stand at our matches so sitting is alien. You may well be a Main stand or Pop stand dweller but on some occasions we are all in there together and it does lead to mixed feelings on standing / sitting. Personally I sat down as others around me were sitting but would prefer to stand
I think a lot of people would prefer to stand, but now we are a league team, sitting is part of the deal, at most clubs, us included at the new stadium.

If people ask you politely to sit down, there is no need to be abusive, they have paid their money, the same as you. Appreciate you can switch that comment around, but the truth is that most new stadiums accomodate for sitting.
If standing is your thing, perhaps go to the back of the stand, where you wont impede peoples view of the game who want to sit down.

We all have the same passion for York, there is no place for abuse or infighting.
WE ARE YORK

Yeahbutno says...
1:15pm Mon 13 Aug 12

minstermonster wrote:
billoofyork wrote:
alimount wrote:
Not surprised the police intervined because a small number of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday. One bloke got arrested for abusing a steward, racially motivated the police reckon. Not to mention the 'big' fans who wouldn't sit down when asked, then physically and verbally abused those around them.
Welcome back football. Nothing more proud than seeing that behaviour on what should've been a celebratory day.
Could've cost us the game in what might have been a slight advantage in the shoot out. Hope you are proud of yourselves.
Seems little over the top. Most of the fans standing were supporting their team. If some were abusive then fair enough to get them out but on the whole our fans were loud and proud yesterday. Plus don't forget that a lot of City fans stand at our matches so sitting is alien. You may well be a Main stand or Pop stand dweller but on some occasions we are all in there together and it does lead to mixed feelings on standing / sitting. Personally I sat down as others around me were sitting but would prefer to stand
I think a lot of people would prefer to stand, but now we are a league team, sitting is part of the deal, at most clubs, us included at the new stadium.

If people ask you politely to sit down, there is no need to be abusive, they have paid their money, the same as you. Appreciate you can switch that comment around, but the truth is that most new stadiums accomodate for sitting.
If standing is your thing, perhaps go to the back of the stand, where you wont impede peoples view of the game who want to sit down.

We all have the same passion for York, there is no place for abuse or infighting.
WE ARE YORK
I agree that its a shame that City fans were falling out with each other, but in the incident in question, the lad did NOT ask politely for the bloke to sit down; he and his girlfriend were the ones who started dishing out the verbal abuse, AND the physical confrontation that followed.

Literally moving two or three seats to one side (and there were enough spare seats available) would have prevented the whole situation from happening. Or maybe he could have asked a steward to intervene BEFORE he took the law into his own hands, rather than going crying to them when he'd been got the better of.

I should add that the stewards were NOT enforcing any rules about sitting down as happens at some grounds. Looking across the stand, there were plenty of little pockets of people standing, witrhout any problems whatsoever. Personally I chose to sit for most of the match, but if someone in front had been standing, I would have moved. If it's been a sell-out with no spare room, it would be a different matter.

tongey says...
1:18pm Mon 13 Aug 12

petedrfc wrote:
Lets face it, gary mills is not happy because his team didnt win. all this simpy is, is a man whos got tity lip on. if the penalties would have been taken infront of the york fans he would of been happy and if rovers would have been knocked out it would be a completely different story. at the end of the day its your own fault because you didnt stick your spot kicks away so just get over it. stop blaming rovers and the police just pathetic, its how you take your chances, and if the rovers fans being behind the goal really made a difference then the york city lads who missed the penalties arent good enough are they.
well think milley is rite we played well after we scored just coundnt get another goal to go on and win if we play well like that over the season think we will do ok gd luck york for the season

Head of Bomber Command says...
1:35pm Mon 13 Aug 12

Lets be glad that penalties were not needed to decide the outcome in the previous competitive match we played in.

paintitred says...
2:03pm Mon 13 Aug 12

Phil, Leeds wrote:
paintitred wrote:
Paul2012 wrote:
Back down to reality, Now let's be realistic and positive.

Mid-Table

"Win the capital one cup" - Really!!
TROLL ALERT,

is that you wellbeck!!!

;-).
I guess Paul2012 was just putting forward his own viewpoint which he's completely entitled to do. Just because it doesn't tally with your own opinion doesn't justify abuse.
your just as bad.

nicey nicey

KAT1965 says...
2:28pm Mon 13 Aug 12

There are certain truisms in life that are inescapable:

1) Every team has its section of f@%&wit fans. I remember an end of season trip to Rochdale when our angelic spotty faced oiks were throwing beer bottles onto a bowling green - they're best avoided as they rarely bathe and they hang around in packs to share the braincell.

2) York scored the best goal of the match on Saturday.

3) Penalties will nearly always be taken in front of the home end.

At the end of the day, despite the admirable optimism from the manager, its not the most important game we will play all season.

Roll on Saturday when the real action starts. I for one will be sat down because, even though my 11 year old likes to stand and listen to the swearing in the Longhurst, my knees aren't what they used to be.

Sir Alex says...
2:40pm Mon 13 Aug 12

I don't mind standing or sitting but can do without the constant up then down mentality, and I prefer to know what I'm doing in advance of KO so I know what sort of view its going to be. It was a great one sat down but I'm not the tallest so had problems when I was forced to stand!
Pottsy was good Saturday, as was J Smith (who is 5'5" per the programme!).
Look forward to better things ahead from the team and some of the fans..

Phil, Leeds says...
3:12pm Mon 13 Aug 12

paintitred wrote:
Phil, Leeds wrote:
paintitred wrote:
Paul2012 wrote:
Back down to reality, Now let's be realistic and positive.

Mid-Table

"Win the capital one cup" - Really!!
TROLL ALERT,

is that you wellbeck!!!

;-).
I guess Paul2012 was just putting forward his own viewpoint which he's completely entitled to do. Just because it doesn't tally with your own opinion doesn't justify abuse.
your just as bad.

nicey nicey
"You're just as bad", you mean.

johnboy2882 says...
3:37pm Mon 13 Aug 12

we need a target man asap i showed on saturday walker was dealt with and pushed off the ball with ease by there defenders i fear we are going to struggle unless mills sorts this out we wont get as much time on the ball in this league we need somone who will put themselves about and worry the defenders not give them an easy time

king-albert says...
3:40pm Mon 13 Aug 12

selbyred wrote:
king-albert wrote:
alimount wrote:
Not surprised the police intervined because a small number of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday. One bloke got arrested for abusing a steward, racially motivated the police reckon. Not to mention the 'big' fans who wouldn't sit down when asked, then physically and verbally abused those around them.
Welcome back football. Nothing more proud than seeing that behaviour on what should've been a celebratory day.
Could've cost us the game in what might have been a slight advantage in the shoot out. Hope you are proud of yourselves.
Absolutely agree - the game was spoiled for many of us by mindless comments and actions.
And as for "If you love city stand up" do the instigators actually watch the game?
On more than one occasion city were playing excellent football and deserved the admiration of their supporters not inane "Groundhog Day" rubbish.
Yeah you're right,everybody should just sit there in silence all game like they're in a library.
Shhhhhhhh

Paul2012 says...
3:46pm Mon 13 Aug 12

The only reason I say mid table is the squad don't look to be at the fitness standard the we should be going into league 2.

We died in the last 15 Mins of the game V Doncaster and that is where the games are going to be lost and won this season.

Home form is crucial!

YorkCityLuke says...
4:21pm Mon 13 Aug 12

Phil, Leeds wrote:
paintitred wrote:
Paul2012 wrote:
Back down to reality, Now let's be realistic and positive.

Mid-Table

"Win the capital one cup" - Really!!
TROLL ALERT,

is that you wellbeck!!!

;-).
I guess Paul2012 was just putting forward his own viewpoint which he's completely entitled to do. Just because it doesn't tally with your own opinion doesn't justify abuse.
Actually the abuse is totally justified in this case - Paul2012 is misquoting Mills to suit his negative 'opinion' (i.e. wind-up). To clarify, Mills said that he WANTED to win the League Cup, not that we WOULD win the League Cup. I'm sure we all wanted to win it, and we certainly didn't disgrace ourselves in the attempt.

duffy says...
4:23pm Mon 13 Aug 12

Paul2012 wrote:
The only reason I say mid table is the squad don't look to be at the fitness standard the we should be going into league 2.

We died in the last 15 Mins of the game V Doncaster and that is where the games are going to be lost and won this season.

Home form is crucial!
That's not something that normaly happens though, look to the weather. We are actually a very fit team which is why we scored so many late goals last season.

paddymacwakey says...
4:32pm Mon 13 Aug 12

i agree with sir alex and johnboy 2882.iwas at doncaster on saturday,and york played some good football,and overhaul were the better side.it was just the finished product that was missing,and we all know it is a hitman.pottsy looked good again with the little time he had when he came on.why mills wants to get rid of him is beyond me.as i have said before,11 players gone and 6 players signed does not add up the squad is no way big enough than on last season.i and a lot of supporters still don,t know how much money city made out of the fa trophy final and play off final,plus a fee for moke,but i do know we havent spent any.before reed got injured,mills said he was going to see how reed and walker would go on,well now he has got to find a plan b from somewhere.

Budgie says...
4:39pm Mon 13 Aug 12

City need a big strong striker in the Walwyn mould,Our front line is powder puff.Not at Doncaster,not suprised at some of the behaviour of a small group who seem to enjoy being pests,probably the things they smoke and sniff lights up their lives.

paintitred says...
4:50pm Mon 13 Aug 12

Phil, Leeds wrote:
paintitred wrote:
Phil, Leeds wrote:
paintitred wrote:
Paul2012 wrote:
Back down to reality, Now let's be realistic and positive.

Mid-Table

"Win the capital one cup" - Really!!
TROLL ALERT,

is that you wellbeck!!!

;-).
I guess Paul2012 was just putting forward his own viewpoint which he's completely entitled to do. Just because it doesn't tally with your own opinion doesn't justify abuse.
your just as bad.

nicey nicey
"You're just as bad", you mean.
zzzzzzzzzz lol

bait-cast-strike-lan
d

gotcha

duffy says...
5:53pm Mon 13 Aug 12

Getting back to the actual game it could have gone either way, I dont agree with some of the stick the team and Mills are getting with this one. We are not that far off with a couple of signings in my view which is the point some of the regulars are making.

goreds says...
6:13pm Mon 13 Aug 12

trouble is standing in front of your seat is a poor substitute for standing on a terrace.
You are restricted and cannot really go crazy if we score.
I was amused on saturday to see a group of 'standers , stood there with their arms folded ,determined to stand.
Trouble is thats all they did - they might as well have sat down.

joejamestom says...
7:50pm Mon 13 Aug 12

We looked a decent footballing side & held our own against a side a league above who had a couple of v big players who I thought would cause us problems from set pieces. No shame in the result, our fans also had the advantage of a great spirit & good volume against a strangely small & quiet home support it didn't look like nearly a 5K attendance to me.
On the standing issue I have to say it is incredibly thoughtless to constantly stand in front of others who have paid their money just the same. If anyone should move its the folk who wish to stand, get to the back with your mates & have a party if that's how you wish to express your support. I had pretty much the same difficulties at Stoke despite asking the individuals politely to sit so my young son could see, I was given verbal & it was only the intervention of surrounding fans that shamed the people into sitting. We too get carried away with the moment & stand up bellowing support at times but sit down afterwards. A bit of common sense & respect for others would not go amiss & perhaps the clubs ensuring areas for "enthusiastic support" are set aside as per Wembley there is room for everyone to follow City in their own way and if I "love City" I will do it by handing over my hard earned.
No chance of standing at the new ground if we need the £2M grant so get used to it not sure the stewards at many away games will be as lenient.
Looking forward to the League game on Saturday City are going to be a decent League side this season & I am sure GM is well aware of improvements required.

thirsky says...
9:28pm Mon 13 Aug 12

Seems to be more comment about what went on on the terracing than on the pitch which is a pity as there doesnt appear to be a match report either.

Tug job says...
9:37pm Mon 13 Aug 12

thirsky wrote:
Seems to be more comment about what went on on the terracing than on the pitch which is a pity as there doesnt appear to be a match report either.
Just click on "match reports", above - it really is that easy!

billoofyork says...
9:15am Tue 14 Aug 12

minstermonster wrote:
billoofyork wrote:
alimount wrote:
Not surprised the police intervined because a small number of our fans were an absolute disgrace yesterday. One bloke got arrested for abusing a steward, racially motivated the police reckon. Not to mention the 'big' fans who wouldn't sit down when asked, then physically and verbally abused those around them.
Welcome back football. Nothing more proud than seeing that behaviour on what should've been a celebratory day.
Could've cost us the game in what might have been a slight advantage in the shoot out. Hope you are proud of yourselves.
Seems little over the top. Most of the fans standing were supporting their team. If some were abusive then fair enough to get them out but on the whole our fans were loud and proud yesterday. Plus don't forget that a lot of City fans stand at our matches so sitting is alien. You may well be a Main stand or Pop stand dweller but on some occasions we are all in there together and it does lead to mixed feelings on standing / sitting. Personally I sat down as others around me were sitting but would prefer to stand
I think a lot of people would prefer to stand, but now we are a league team, sitting is part of the deal, at most clubs, us included at the new stadium.

If people ask you politely to sit down, there is no need to be abusive, they have paid their money, the same as you. Appreciate you can switch that comment around, but the truth is that most new stadiums accomodate for sitting.
If standing is your thing, perhaps go to the back of the stand, where you wont impede peoples view of the game who want to sit down.

We all have the same passion for York, there is no place for abuse or infighting.
WE ARE YORK
agreed. would be easier if those who wanted to stand could go to the back but the stewards indicated that fans must sit in their designated seats - hence this wasn't an option.
let's hope there is a sensible plan for accommodating all fans comfortably in our new all-seater stadium!!

KNIGHTS4EVA says...
12:31pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Went with wife and 2 kids on Saturday as over from Gibraltar for the week.I bought tickets from City on the Friday but noticed on entering the ground that they were not together!.As it was only 10 mins to kick off I choose to site in an area at the top in the corner and it appeared many people had moved too.There was a good city following and a decent atmosphere especially as the Doncaster support was both poor in numbers and quiet.Not much between the teams and after Coulsons wonder strike it was a shame we conceded a soft pen as Donny offered little goal threat.Should have been a coin toss for shootout but our pens were shocking so no complaints there.Encouraging performance to take into season but like others have mentioned we do look lightweight up front and could do with a more physical presence up front.Back to the radio for me now unless i can get a cheap flight over for more live action!.We should be capable of a top 10 finish and possibly a promotion push if we become more clinical in front of goal.a decent day out and even my other half enjoyed the day like another poster's missus had!!!! ..

paintitred says...
2:16pm Tue 14 Aug 12

KNIGHTS4EVA wrote:
Went with wife and 2 kids on Saturday as over from Gibraltar for the week.I bought tickets from City on the Friday but noticed on entering the ground that they were not together!.As it was only 10 mins to kick off I choose to site in an area at the top in the corner and it appeared many people had moved too.There was a good city following and a decent atmosphere especially as the Doncaster support was both poor in numbers and quiet.Not much between the teams and after Coulsons wonder strike it was a shame we conceded a soft pen as Donny offered little goal threat.Should have been a coin toss for shootout but our pens were shocking so no complaints there.Encouraging performance to take into season but like others have mentioned we do look lightweight up front and could do with a more physical presence up front.Back to the radio for me now unless i can get a cheap flight over for more live action!.We should be capable of a top 10 finish and possibly a promotion push if we become more clinical in front of goal.a decent day out and even my other half enjoyed the day like another poster's missus had!!!! ..
dont forget KNIGHTS4EVA, radio york are not allowed to provide online commentary.its agsinst league rules.
however i think citys new website will be launched shortly where for a one off fee (£40) you will be able to log on and get the commentry.

you need one of those high power long range radios lol.

York Bob says...
12:50pm Wed 15 Aug 12

jumbojet wrote:
'Aggreived'. Yes, so am I, to miss penalties like we did is total incompetence. We have just watched individuals at the Olympics making us proud, winning, not missing the target, not messing up when called up to the line. Part of pre-season should have included penalty taking, that was a bad show, and a bad start, we should have been in the second round draw.
Erm - didn't we go out of the Olympics men's football on penalties?

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