York City's David McGurk in Luton Town transfer request

York Press: David McGurk David McGurk

YORK City defender David McGurk has handed in a written transfer request at Bootham Crescent and wants to leave for Luton Town according to manager Gary Mills.

Mills told The Press he had rejected repeated bids from the Hatters for McGurk’s services and had even offered the 28-year-old centre-back an extension to his current contract, which does not expire until the summer of 2012.

The City chief has also refused to grant permission for McGurk to speak to the Kenilworth Road club and intends to carry on selecting the former Darlington defender, ahead of tomorrow’s league trip to Rushden and Diamonds.

Luton have already lured Alex Lawless to Bedfordshire on loan, having agreed to a permanent move when the transfer window reopens in January and also snapped up City target Jason Walker from Barrow in similar circumstances.

Last season’s Press Player of the Year McGurk, it now transpires, is also in Hatters boss Richard Money’s sights.

The club’s longest-serving player with five years of service under his belt, McGurk picked up a rare ten out of ten Press rating as City completed their 2-0 Blue Square Premier two-legged play-off semi-final win over Luton in May.

About his battle to retain the Middlesbrough-born centre-half’s services, Mills said: “Luton have made a couple of offers for David, which we have turned down.

“David has expressed an interest in speaking to them with a view to signing for them but he’s somebody I don’t want to lose.

“I have told him that and even offered him an extension to his contract, which he has turned down.

“I’m trying to build a team and a squad of players that I feel can compete at this level and I want David to be part of that but he has told me he would like to move to Luton.

“He has put in a written transfer request but I’ve not given permission for him to talk to Luton because I value him as an important part of my future plans for the club.

“In the meantime, I will continue to pick him for the team.”

Mills admitted, meanwhile, that he has a more pleasing dilemma as he considers whether to recall talented loan signings Ashley Chambers and Robbie Weir after the pair were ineligible for Wednesday’s crushing 3-0 FA Cup victory over Rotherham.

He added: “Those kind of selection headaches are lovely – a manager’s dream but a player’s nightmare.”

Djoumin Sangare is, however, doubtful due to a sore groin and Peter Till will face a late fitness test on his hamstring injury before a decision is made on whether he can join the squad for Nene Park.

Following tomorrow’s match, City will play host to Southport in the league on Tuesday night before fighting for a place in the FA Cup third round a week tomorrow at Darlington, but Mills believes his players will have no problem focusing on their forthcoming fixtures.

He said: “I don’t think it (the Cup match) will prove a distraction.

“I thought Wednesday’s win was just a progression of what we have been doing in the league.

“We haven’t got the results our performances have deserved in the league but we did get our reward against Rotherham because we put the chances away that we created.

“We haven’t done that in the league games but we just need to keep playing how we are doing.”

Mills also stressed that he hopes the morale-boosting win over Rotherham will provide a belated hangover cure following last season’s Blue Square Premier play-off final defeat to Oxford.

He said: “I like a drink but I don’t like a hangover and everybody has got to forget about last season now and get over it.

“There’s been a lot of talk about last season but I’m not interested in that – it’s gone.

“The club had a great opportunity, but it did not happen.

“Now, I have a style of football I want my team to play and we have got to move forward.

“You can’t feel sorry for yourselves in life and we must concentrate on turning around the disappointing start to the season.”

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12:08pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Sir Alex says...

How can TY know he wants to sign for Luton since he's not been allowed to talk to them?

Lets face it - he's been tapped up and now effectively he's gone, subject to the fee.

Why does football have all these rules about tapping up and transfer windows etc when they mean nothing in reality? Needs sorting as its bringing the game into disrepute.
How can TY know he wants to sign for Luton since he's not been allowed to talk to them? Lets face it - he's been tapped up and now effectively he's gone, subject to the fee. Why does football have all these rules about tapping up and transfer windows etc when they mean nothing in reality? Needs sorting as its bringing the game into disrepute. Sir Alex
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12:09pm Fri 19 Nov 10

iandwightbenton says...

So whats the reason for this ?

Is the managers style not liked by some of the players or are players purely just wanting to better themselves ?

But why Luton ?
Crawley and Wimbledon are the places to be if you want to go to the footie league boys !

Why would you want to go to Luton after their Scummy fans show in May ?? I don't get it.......

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So whats the reason for this ? Is the managers style not liked by some of the players or are players purely just wanting to better themselves ? But why Luton ? Crawley and Wimbledon are the places to be if you want to go to the footie league boys ! Why would you want to go to Luton after their Scummy fans show in May ?? I don't get it....... rant over iandwightbenton
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12:12pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Colin Pratt says...

This club has gone back 4 years and once again a rebuild is needed in January. McGurk is not the only unhappy player at the club. Many of the players who attend the disco at the Vudu night club openly admit that they want to leave the club so TY will not be the first. We need players who want to play for the club and not only be up for the FA Cup games which has been so obviously evident. It is devastating when I see promising performances only to be told the problems within the club the next day by a family member. We are in a state and the FA Cup is just papering over the cracks. We will see in January whether this club will sink or start a re-building process all over again. Good luck to Gary Mills he needs it.
This club has gone back 4 years and once again a rebuild is needed in January. McGurk is not the only unhappy player at the club. Many of the players who attend the disco at the Vudu night club openly admit that they want to leave the club so TY will not be the first. We need players who want to play for the club and not only be up for the FA Cup games which has been so obviously evident. It is devastating when I see promising performances only to be told the problems within the club the next day by a family member. We are in a state and the FA Cup is just papering over the cracks. We will see in January whether this club will sink or start a re-building process all over again. Good luck to Gary Mills he needs it. Colin Pratt
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12:18pm Fri 19 Nov 10

long distance depressive says...

To be honest everyone has his price, TY has been tapped up and wants to go to a 'bigger club' and no doubt a significant wage rise. If we can get a couple more good performances out of him before he does go (for what will hopefully be a good fee) then at least we may make Rnd 3 of the Cup. Let's face it we wont go up this season so may as well coin it in before players go on a free.
To be honest everyone has his price, TY has been tapped up and wants to go to a 'bigger club' and no doubt a significant wage rise. If we can get a couple more good performances out of him before he does go (for what will hopefully be a good fee) then at least we may make Rnd 3 of the Cup. Let's face it we wont go up this season so may as well coin it in before players go on a free. long distance depressive
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12:25pm Fri 19 Nov 10

davidhall says...

Rats off a sinking ship
Rats off a sinking ship davidhall
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12:26pm Fri 19 Nov 10

A Luton Fan says...

Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on.

Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations.

Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.
Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave. A Luton Fan
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12:28pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Barbarian says...

long distance depressive wrote:
To be honest everyone has his price, TY has been tapped up and wants to go to a 'bigger club' and no doubt a significant wage rise. If we can get a couple more good performances out of him before he does go (for what will hopefully be a good fee) then at least we may make Rnd 3 of the Cup. Let's face it we wont go up this season so may as well coin it in before players go on a free.
"Let's face it we wont go up this season so may as well coin it in before players go on a free."

But we might go down....getting rid of our best players wont help. Keep him till the end of the season and then send him on his way, tarred and feathered.

Only kidding, but good luck Gary Mills. The fans are still behind you.
[quote][p][bold]long distance depressive[/bold] wrote: To be honest everyone has his price, TY has been tapped up and wants to go to a 'bigger club' and no doubt a significant wage rise. If we can get a couple more good performances out of him before he does go (for what will hopefully be a good fee) then at least we may make Rnd 3 of the Cup. Let's face it we wont go up this season so may as well coin it in before players go on a free.[/p][/quote]"Let's face it we wont go up this season so may as well coin it in before players go on a free." But we might go down....getting rid of our best players wont help. Keep him till the end of the season and then send him on his way, tarred and feathered. Only kidding, but good luck Gary Mills. The fans are still behind you. Barbarian
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12:32pm Fri 19 Nov 10

NotInOz says...

He is under contract until 2012 and has always been professional. Even though he may say he wants away he is from the north and on previous behaviour I would expect him to honour his contract without affecting his performances.
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That said we don't want this hanging around for too long. We should dig our heels in, give Luton a big 6 figure non-negotiable price tag, say £300k! Then if they cough up we have something for rebuilding.
He is under contract until 2012 and has always been professional. Even though he may say he wants away he is from the north and on previous behaviour I would expect him to honour his contract without affecting his performances. - That said we don't want this hanging around for too long. We should dig our heels in, give Luton a big 6 figure non-negotiable price tag, say £300k! Then if they cough up we have something for rebuilding. NotInOz
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12:33pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Sir Alex says...

A Luton Fan wrote:
Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.
How can you say that they are properly handled when the player has been tapped up before the clubs have agreed a fee???
You are supposed to agree a fee and then let the player talk to the club.
Go away!!
[quote][p][bold]A Luton Fan[/bold] wrote: Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.[/p][/quote]How can you say that they are properly handled when the player has been tapped up before the clubs have agreed a fee??? You are supposed to agree a fee and then let the player talk to the club. Go away!! Sir Alex
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12:47pm Fri 19 Nov 10

ozhat says...

Sir Alex wrote:
A Luton Fan wrote:
Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.
How can you say that they are properly handled when the player has been tapped up before the clubs have agreed a fee???
You are supposed to agree a fee and then let the player talk to the club.
Go away!!
Where does it say the player has been tapped up?.
York have chosen to go public not Luton, maybe York are trying to get other clubs interested and drive up the fee?.
But from what's been reported/quoted can't see that Luton have done anything wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Alex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Luton Fan[/bold] wrote: Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.[/p][/quote]How can you say that they are properly handled when the player has been tapped up before the clubs have agreed a fee??? You are supposed to agree a fee and then let the player talk to the club. Go away!![/p][/quote]Where does it say the player has been tapped up?. York have chosen to go public not Luton, maybe York are trying to get other clubs interested and drive up the fee?. But from what's been reported/quoted can't see that Luton have done anything wrong. ozhat
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12:48pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Fartin Moyle says...

Luton want him, TY wants to go, put a big price tag on him and bat the ball back into the luton court.
Luton want him, TY wants to go, put a big price tag on him and bat the ball back into the luton court. Fartin Moyle
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12:53pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Phil, Leeds says...

The worrying thing is not that David McGurk may go but if, as Colin Pratt says, there is widespread dissatisfaction in the squad and others follow. Why is there this feeling amongst the players? If we can't keep the better players and lose them, not even to higher division clubs but to other Conference clubs, then we will never get out of this league. We've become a feeder club to the likes of Crawley and Luton FGS. Good luck to Gary Mills.
The worrying thing is not that David McGurk may go but if, as Colin Pratt says, there is widespread dissatisfaction in the squad and others follow. Why is there this feeling amongst the players? If we can't keep the better players and lose them, not even to higher division clubs but to other Conference clubs, then we will never get out of this league. We've become a feeder club to the likes of Crawley and Luton FGS. Good luck to Gary Mills. Phil, Leeds
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12:54pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Sir Alex says...

ozhat wrote:
Sir Alex wrote:
A Luton Fan wrote: Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.
How can you say that they are properly handled when the player has been tapped up before the clubs have agreed a fee??? You are supposed to agree a fee and then let the player talk to the club. Go away!!
Where does it say the player has been tapped up?. York have chosen to go public not Luton, maybe York are trying to get other clubs interested and drive up the fee?. But from what's been reported/quoted can't see that Luton have done anything wrong.
It says he has put in a transfer request as he wants to go to Luton.
How on earth can he know he wants to go to Luton unless he's been tapped up (ahead of a fee being agreed for a contracted player)?
Its not a general transfer request its specifically Luton so he must have spoken to the shi****.
[quote][p][bold]ozhat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Alex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Luton Fan[/bold] wrote: Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.[/p][/quote]How can you say that they are properly handled when the player has been tapped up before the clubs have agreed a fee??? You are supposed to agree a fee and then let the player talk to the club. Go away!![/p][/quote]Where does it say the player has been tapped up?. York have chosen to go public not Luton, maybe York are trying to get other clubs interested and drive up the fee?. But from what's been reported/quoted can't see that Luton have done anything wrong.[/p][/quote]It says he has put in a transfer request as he wants to go to Luton. How on earth can he know he wants to go to Luton unless he's been tapped up (ahead of a fee being agreed for a contracted player)? Its not a general transfer request its specifically Luton so he must have spoken to the shi****. Sir Alex
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12:58pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Head of Bomber Command says...

I don't give a toss about him going, he will be replaced just like many before him have been.

100k and he can go to them and any other Dog and Duck FC team like Luton Town.

I am only interested in York and people who want to play for US.

Gary is playing a game now and will get more money for TY by letting other clubs in on the chance to bid for his services. He is going.
I don't give a toss about him going, he will be replaced just like many before him have been. 100k and he can go to them and any other Dog and Duck FC team like Luton Town. I am only interested in York and people who want to play for US. Gary is playing a game now and will get more money for TY by letting other clubs in on the chance to bid for his services. He is going. Head of Bomber Command
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1:00pm Fri 19 Nov 10

selbyred says...

No doubt the luton board and management share the opinion of some of there fans,that they're 2 big 4 this league and that they can do as they please!if you don't like what we've got 2 say here's an idea don't come on here you tosser!as 4 mcgurk have 2 say would be gutted to see him leave as he's been a top player and upto now has been very loyal but he doesn't want to be here so we should let him go in jan and bring in someone who actualy wants to be at the club
No doubt the luton board and management share the opinion of some of there fans,that they're 2 big 4 this league and that they can do as they please!if you don't like what we've got 2 say here's an idea don't come on here you tosser!as 4 mcgurk have 2 say would be gutted to see him leave as he's been a top player and upto now has been very loyal but he doesn't want to be here so we should let him go in jan and bring in someone who actualy wants to be at the club selbyred
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1:01pm Fri 19 Nov 10

WeAreYork says...

Great servant to the club. Excellent defender. But Luton!? Anyone but them.
Great servant to the club. Excellent defender. But Luton!? Anyone but them. WeAreYork
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1:04pm Fri 19 Nov 10

thechief says...

A Luton Fan wrote:
Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.
I dont think anyones comments so far could be seen as "holier than thou". I presume your ref comes from our attitude to the behaviour of a great number of Luton fans after we had knocked you out of the play offs. Your fans were THE KINGS OF BAD LOSERS that day. Is it any wonder nobody likes you and think you are the scum of the non-league. I for one will be laughing again when you fail to achieve promotion. Big club?? you are being out spent by 1,000 gate bunch of nobodys on the south coast. Your day has gone, if you ever had one, if I were TY I would join a serious promotion contender.
[quote][p][bold]A Luton Fan[/bold] wrote: Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.[/p][/quote]I dont think anyones comments so far could be seen as "holier than thou". I presume your ref comes from our attitude to the behaviour of a great number of Luton fans after we had knocked you out of the play offs. Your fans were THE KINGS OF BAD LOSERS that day. Is it any wonder nobody likes you and think you are the scum of the non-league. I for one will be laughing again when you fail to achieve promotion. Big club?? you are being out spent by 1,000 gate bunch of nobodys on the south coast. Your day has gone, if you ever had one, if I were TY I would join a serious promotion contender. thechief
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1:05pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Head of Bomber Command says...

Actually I don't believe it is true as it says he put in a WRITTEN request. Come on now from Middlesboro and he can write!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually I don't believe it is true as it says he put in a WRITTEN request. Come on now from Middlesboro and he can write!!!!!!!!!!!! Head of Bomber Command
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1:05pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Sir Alex says...

Like Brodes to Crawley, McGurk to Luton will be like a fish out of water.
Like Brodes to Crawley, McGurk to Luton will be like a fish out of water. Sir Alex
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1:06pm Fri 19 Nov 10

ozhat says...

Sir Alex wrote:
ozhat wrote:
Sir Alex wrote:
A Luton Fan wrote: Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.
How can you say that they are properly handled when the player has been tapped up before the clubs have agreed a fee??? You are supposed to agree a fee and then let the player talk to the club. Go away!!
Where does it say the player has been tapped up?. York have chosen to go public not Luton, maybe York are trying to get other clubs interested and drive up the fee?. But from what's been reported/quoted can't see that Luton have done anything wrong.
It says he has put in a transfer request as he wants to go to Luton.
How on earth can he know he wants to go to Luton unless he's been tapped up (ahead of a fee being agreed for a contracted player)?
Its not a general transfer request its specifically Luton so he must have spoken to the shi****.
Sounds to me that York told him, maybe he has a clause in his contract whereby he is notified of any bids for him?
From a Luton perspective having been punished 20 points a couple of years ago for using unlicensed agents you can be pretty sure that we won't have been tapping up anybody.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Alex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ozhat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Alex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Luton Fan[/bold] wrote: Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.[/p][/quote]How can you say that they are properly handled when the player has been tapped up before the clubs have agreed a fee??? You are supposed to agree a fee and then let the player talk to the club. Go away!![/p][/quote]Where does it say the player has been tapped up?. York have chosen to go public not Luton, maybe York are trying to get other clubs interested and drive up the fee?. But from what's been reported/quoted can't see that Luton have done anything wrong.[/p][/quote]It says he has put in a transfer request as he wants to go to Luton. How on earth can he know he wants to go to Luton unless he's been tapped up (ahead of a fee being agreed for a contracted player)? Its not a general transfer request its specifically Luton so he must have spoken to the shi****.[/p][/quote]Sounds to me that York told him, maybe he has a clause in his contract whereby he is notified of any bids for him? From a Luton perspective having been punished 20 points a couple of years ago for using unlicensed agents you can be pretty sure that we won't have been tapping up anybody. ozhat
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1:07pm Fri 19 Nov 10

OLD - HEAD says...

I have said it before but sadly - "The only people loyal to a football club, are the fans". A footballers career is so short that ANY player at York City WILL leave the club to play elsewhere for more money, especially if that elsewhere is a club challenging for honours. This is a cruel fact of life, no matter how bad the fans feel about it. My personal feeling is that if McGurk wants to go, then get what you can for him, thank him for his services, and show him the door. A unhappy player will cause bad feeling among the squad, which is the last thing that we want. Gary Mills priority this season must be to avoid relegation. Once that is achieved he has to completely rebuild the squad with players that he can trust will give their all for our club. Once the real transfer window opens in January there could be many more comings and goings at Bootham Crescent, but the fans will still turn up to support what they feel is their club.
I have said it before but sadly - "The only people loyal to a football club, are the fans". A footballers career is so short that ANY player at York City WILL leave the club to play elsewhere for more money, especially if that elsewhere is a club challenging for honours. This is a cruel fact of life, no matter how bad the fans feel about it. My personal feeling is that if McGurk wants to go, then get what you can for him, thank him for his services, and show him the door. A unhappy player will cause bad feeling among the squad, which is the last thing that we want. Gary Mills priority this season must be to avoid relegation. Once that is achieved he has to completely rebuild the squad with players that he can trust will give their all for our club. Once the real transfer window opens in January there could be many more comings and goings at Bootham Crescent, but the fans will still turn up to support what they feel is their club. OLD - HEAD
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1:09pm Fri 19 Nov 10

ozhat says...

selbyred wrote:
No doubt the luton board and management share the opinion of some of there fans,that they're 2 big 4 this league and that they can do as they please!if you don't like what we've got 2 say here's an idea don't come on here you tosser!as 4 mcgurk have 2 say would be gutted to see him leave as he's been a top player and upto now has been very loyal but he doesn't want to be here so we should let him go in jan and bring in someone who actualy wants to be at the club
What are you on about?. What have Luton done wrong here?
[quote][p][bold]selbyred[/bold] wrote: No doubt the luton board and management share the opinion of some of there fans,that they're 2 big 4 this league and that they can do as they please!if you don't like what we've got 2 say here's an idea don't come on here you tosser!as 4 mcgurk have 2 say would be gutted to see him leave as he's been a top player and upto now has been very loyal but he doesn't want to be here so we should let him go in jan and bring in someone who actualy wants to be at the club[/p][/quote]What are you on about?. What have Luton done wrong here? ozhat
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1:11pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Head of Bomber Command says...

Again I say don't get upset by him wanting away. He is replacable you will see. Gary will be on the case already. TY will be followed by others in January if not sooner.
Again I say don't get upset by him wanting away. He is replacable you will see. Gary will be on the case already. TY will be followed by others in January if not sooner. Head of Bomber Command
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1:13pm Fri 19 Nov 10

ozhat says...

thechief wrote:
A Luton Fan wrote:
Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.
I dont think anyones comments so far could be seen as "holier than thou". I presume your ref comes from our attitude to the behaviour of a great number of Luton fans after we had knocked you out of the play offs. Your fans were THE KINGS OF BAD LOSERS that day. Is it any wonder nobody likes you and think you are the scum of the non-league. I for one will be laughing again when you fail to achieve promotion. Big club?? you are being out spent by 1,000 gate bunch of nobodys on the south coast. Your day has gone, if you ever had one, if I were TY I would join a serious promotion contender.
Get over it!. Clearly York by going public are attempting to get other clubs interested so maybe you'll get your wish and he'll go to Crawley instead.....although I think we both know that he'd choose Luton over Crawley.
[quote][p][bold]thechief[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Luton Fan[/bold] wrote: Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.[/p][/quote]I dont think anyones comments so far could be seen as "holier than thou". I presume your ref comes from our attitude to the behaviour of a great number of Luton fans after we had knocked you out of the play offs. Your fans were THE KINGS OF BAD LOSERS that day. Is it any wonder nobody likes you and think you are the scum of the non-league. I for one will be laughing again when you fail to achieve promotion. Big club?? you are being out spent by 1,000 gate bunch of nobodys on the south coast. Your day has gone, if you ever had one, if I were TY I would join a serious promotion contender.[/p][/quote]Get over it!. Clearly York by going public are attempting to get other clubs interested so maybe you'll get your wish and he'll go to Crawley instead.....although I think we both know that he'd choose Luton over Crawley. ozhat
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1:18pm Fri 19 Nov 10

jimmy120883 says...

yes McGurk has put a transfer request in and wants to leave but mills has turned down 2-3 offers from luton for him and offered him an extension but mills says " he has also refused to grant permission for McGurk to speak to the Kenilworth Road club and intends to carry on selecting the former Darlington defender,“I’m trying to build a team and a squad of players that I feel can compete at this level and I want David to be part of that, I’ve not given permission for him to talk to Luton because I value him as an important part of my future plans for the club."
So as i see it he as 18months left on his contract mills is still gonna play him unless luton bid a stupid amount for him and he may change his mind (like wayne rooney), but as the good professional he is i'm sure he'll give a hundred per cent or he can root on the bench for 18months and no one will wanna sign him then.
yes McGurk has put a transfer request in and wants to leave but mills has turned down 2-3 offers from luton for him and offered him an extension but mills says " he has also refused to grant permission for McGurk to speak to the Kenilworth Road club and intends to carry on selecting the former Darlington defender,“I’m trying to build a team and a squad of players that I feel can compete at this level and I want David to be part of that, I’ve not given permission for him to talk to Luton because I value him as an important part of my future plans for the club." So as i see it he as 18months left on his contract mills is still gonna play him unless luton bid a stupid amount for him and he may change his mind (like wayne rooney), but as the good professional he is i'm sure he'll give a hundred per cent or he can root on the bench for 18months and no one will wanna sign him then. jimmy120883
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1:21pm Fri 19 Nov 10

yorkshirebornandbred says...

im not actually bothered by this,if he wants to go,let him.its been pretty obvious that apart from last season,this club has needed an overhaul of its playing staff for years,and i believe gary mills is the man to do it.get rid of any player who doesnt want to play for us and bring in fresh blood in Jan,or even July, that want to be here and play for the manager and the club. after all,TY is 28,not gonna get any younger (or pace for that matter) and we can bring in somebody on the way up,not down. i for one,hope Luton do get promoted (or go bust please) so that they can start poaching league 2 players and leave the clubs in this league who play by the rules alone (apart from cr***ey). thatnks for the service TY,but you have shown yourself to be just like the rest,shut the door on your way out
im not actually bothered by this,if he wants to go,let him.its been pretty obvious that apart from last season,this club has needed an overhaul of its playing staff for years,and i believe gary mills is the man to do it.get rid of any player who doesnt want to play for us and bring in fresh blood in Jan,or even July, that want to be here and play for the manager and the club. after all,TY is 28,not gonna get any younger (or pace for that matter) and we can bring in somebody on the way up,not down. i for one,hope Luton do get promoted (or go bust please) so that they can start poaching league 2 players and leave the clubs in this league who play by the rules alone (apart from cr***ey). thatnks for the service TY,but you have shown yourself to be just like the rest,shut the door on your way out yorkshirebornandbred
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1:23pm Fri 19 Nov 10

thechief says...

ozhat wrote:
thechief wrote:
A Luton Fan wrote: Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.
I dont think anyones comments so far could be seen as "holier than thou". I presume your ref comes from our attitude to the behaviour of a great number of Luton fans after we had knocked you out of the play offs. Your fans were THE KINGS OF BAD LOSERS that day. Is it any wonder nobody likes you and think you are the scum of the non-league. I for one will be laughing again when you fail to achieve promotion. Big club?? you are being out spent by 1,000 gate bunch of nobodys on the south coast. Your day has gone, if you ever had one, if I were TY I would join a serious promotion contender.
Get over it!. Clearly York by going public are attempting to get other clubs interested so maybe you'll get your wish and he'll go to Crawley instead.....although I think we both know that he'd choose Luton over Crawley.
I am over it, it was simply a retort to the Luton numpty who was quite clearly not over it. I am not the one posting on another clubs local newspaper am I!!!!
[quote][p][bold]ozhat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thechief[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Luton Fan[/bold] wrote: Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.[/p][/quote]I dont think anyones comments so far could be seen as "holier than thou". I presume your ref comes from our attitude to the behaviour of a great number of Luton fans after we had knocked you out of the play offs. Your fans were THE KINGS OF BAD LOSERS that day. Is it any wonder nobody likes you and think you are the scum of the non-league. I for one will be laughing again when you fail to achieve promotion. Big club?? you are being out spent by 1,000 gate bunch of nobodys on the south coast. Your day has gone, if you ever had one, if I were TY I would join a serious promotion contender.[/p][/quote]Get over it!. Clearly York by going public are attempting to get other clubs interested so maybe you'll get your wish and he'll go to Crawley instead.....although I think we both know that he'd choose Luton over Crawley.[/p][/quote]I am over it, it was simply a retort to the Luton numpty who was quite clearly not over it. I am not the one posting on another clubs local newspaper am I!!!! thechief
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1:24pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Head of Bomber Command says...

ozhat wrote:
thechief wrote:
A Luton Fan wrote: Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.
I dont think anyones comments so far could be seen as "holier than thou". I presume your ref comes from our attitude to the behaviour of a great number of Luton fans after we had knocked you out of the play offs. Your fans were THE KINGS OF BAD LOSERS that day. Is it any wonder nobody likes you and think you are the scum of the non-league. I for one will be laughing again when you fail to achieve promotion. Big club?? you are being out spent by 1,000 gate bunch of nobodys on the south coast. Your day has gone, if you ever had one, if I were TY I would join a serious promotion contender.
Get over it!. Clearly York by going public are attempting to get other clubs interested so maybe you'll get your wish and he'll go to Crawley instead.....although I think we both know that he'd choose Luton over Crawley.
I would take playing for the Rose and Crown if that was the choice I had :-)
[quote][p][bold]ozhat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thechief[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Luton Fan[/bold] wrote: Here go the Yorkies again . . . the undisputed kings of "holier than thou" now casting aspersions with no grounds whatsoever for basing them on. Shame on your club for going public on otherwise properly handled transfer negotiations. Even more shame on the above for making stupid accusations just because a player wants to leave.[/p][/quote]I dont think anyones comments so far could be seen as "holier than thou". I presume your ref comes from our attitude to the behaviour of a great number of Luton fans after we had knocked you out of the play offs. Your fans were THE KINGS OF BAD LOSERS that day. Is it any wonder nobody likes you and think you are the scum of the non-league. I for one will be laughing again when you fail to achieve promotion. Big club?? you are being out spent by 1,000 gate bunch of nobodys on the south coast. Your day has gone, if you ever had one, if I were TY I would join a serious promotion contender.[/p][/quote]Get over it!. Clearly York by going public are attempting to get other clubs interested so maybe you'll get your wish and he'll go to Crawley instead.....although I think we both know that he'd choose Luton over Crawley.[/p][/quote]I would take playing for the Rose and Crown if that was the choice I had :-) Head of Bomber Command
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1:41pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Southern Exile says...

I was ok with the Brodie deal but very unhappy at losing both Lawless and McGurk.

There is obviously some tapping up going on here otherwise how would the player know.

Whilst these moves between transfer windows might be within the "letter" of the rules they certainly aren't within the spirit.

Obviously Luton think they can only go up with the players that stopped them going up last season...
I was ok with the Brodie deal but very unhappy at losing both Lawless and McGurk. There is obviously some tapping up going on here otherwise how would the player know. Whilst these moves between transfer windows might be within the "letter" of the rules they certainly aren't within the spirit. Obviously Luton think they can only go up with the players that stopped them going up last season... Southern Exile
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2:19pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Yorkess says...

It sounds to me like Luton are still annoyed that we beat them in the playoffs and this is their way of getting us back by "tapping up" our best players. Sorry if others don't agree but since when has Luton been the epicentre of the footballing world? I am really sad to read that David has thought that this is the best place to ply his trade. I was gutted when Brodie was forced out and annoyed to read that Lawless had left for Luton but this is bad news. How is Mills supposed to work on bringing the team together when they can't run away from the club quick enough. McGurk was only in this very paper last week praisng his new partnership with Chris Smith and how he was looking forward to it continuing??

Its about time that someone challenged the FA/Conference HQ about these "transfer requests" outside of the transfer window.

I am sure that he will still give 100% and I bet that Mills won't let him go without one hell of a fight.
It sounds to me like Luton are still annoyed that we beat them in the playoffs and this is their way of getting us back by "tapping up" our best players. Sorry if others don't agree but since when has Luton been the epicentre of the footballing world? I am really sad to read that David has thought that this is the best place to ply his trade. I was gutted when Brodie was forced out and annoyed to read that Lawless had left for Luton but this is bad news. How is Mills supposed to work on bringing the team together when they can't run away from the club quick enough. McGurk was only in this very paper last week praisng his new partnership with Chris Smith and how he was looking forward to it continuing?? Its about time that someone challenged the FA/Conference HQ about these "transfer requests" outside of the transfer window. I am sure that he will still give 100% and I bet that Mills won't let him go without one hell of a fight. Yorkess
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2:51pm Fri 19 Nov 10

jcyorkie says...

Mcgurk Hero to Zero, If he doesn't want to be here let him go, sooner the better, is this an agent thing seems odd it is always Luton scum being mentioned.
Mcgurk Hero to Zero, If he doesn't want to be here let him go, sooner the better, is this an agent thing seems odd it is always Luton scum being mentioned. jcyorkie
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3:00pm Fri 19 Nov 10

DarrenMiles says...

Luton?? Why would he want to go to a three sided ground full of inbreds who think they are hard, but only end up jumping up and down on the spot behind the protection of the police and then bash up one of their own shops. Weirdos, and it's the stronghold for the Muslim protests against the British Army.

TY, you've let the club down, you've let the fans down, and you've let yourself down.
Luton?? Why would he want to go to a three sided ground full of inbreds who think they are hard, but only end up jumping up and down on the spot behind the protection of the police and then bash up one of their own shops. Weirdos, and it's the stronghold for the Muslim protests against the British Army. TY, you've let the club down, you've let the fans down, and you've let yourself down. DarrenMiles
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3:11pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Sir Alex says...

That hand on heart pose that TY and Lawless are doing on the official site is now doing my head in. Can we have a new picture please - perhaps Rankine's second goal the other night and the cheering crowd behind!
That hand on heart pose that TY and Lawless are doing on the official site is now doing my head in. Can we have a new picture please - perhaps Rankine's second goal the other night and the cheering crowd behind! Sir Alex
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3:23pm Fri 19 Nov 10

A Luton Fan says...

There is absolutely no evidence of tapping up - suggesting otherwise is just stupid and groundless.

And to the ignoramus who says we were punished for payments to unlicensesd agents all you have done is show just how little you know.

Just for the record I'm posting on a story about York's claims that Luton have made offers for a player and the stupid and baseless remarks from *some* people on here.

It seems to me that the money we have available right now due to us finally being run on a sensible financial footing (at last after so many dodgy owners!) is going to be a significant help to York City who have clearly run into hard times right now.

Despite some of the idiots on here I really do hope you sort things out. I thought you would be up there challenging this year and believe me we at Luton know all about seeing a decent side dismantled because the finances didn't work out!
There is absolutely no evidence of tapping up - suggesting otherwise is just stupid and groundless. And to the ignoramus who says we were punished for payments to unlicensesd agents all you have done is show just how little you know. Just for the record I'm posting on a story about York's claims that Luton have made offers for a player and the stupid and baseless remarks from *some* people on here. It seems to me that the money we have available right now due to us finally being run on a sensible financial footing (at last after so many dodgy owners!) is going to be a significant help to York City who have clearly run into hard times right now. Despite some of the idiots on here I really do hope you sort things out. I thought you would be up there challenging this year and believe me we at Luton know all about seeing a decent side dismantled because the finances didn't work out! A Luton Fan
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3:35pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Southern Exile says...

Following the sale of Brodie we are not financially "struggling" thankyou and did not want to sell either Lawless or McGurk so crawl back to Luton you're not welcome...
Following the sale of Brodie we are not financially "struggling" thankyou and did not want to sell either Lawless or McGurk so crawl back to Luton you're not welcome... Southern Exile
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3:36pm Fri 19 Nov 10

rogue84 says...

gutted, one of the most consistent players in the clubs history, and an excellent servant to the club.....until now.
can't describe my disappointment at this news, lawless won't be missed. mcgurk will be, and sorely.
gutted, one of the most consistent players in the clubs history, and an excellent servant to the club.....until now. can't describe my disappointment at this news, lawless won't be missed. mcgurk will be, and sorely. rogue84
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3:50pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Wilyorkuk1983 says...

For many years I have stood on the terrace at York and sung I O CITY....CITY I O. That will never change, with or without TY.

Great servant and a good lad, but his mind has now wandered to the dark side. You are free too leave, and I for one will clap you for all you have done.

Good luck!
For many years I have stood on the terrace at York and sung I O CITY....CITY I O. That will never change, with or without TY. Great servant and a good lad, but his mind has now wandered to the dark side. You are free too leave, and I for one will clap you for all you have done. Good luck! Wilyorkuk1983
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3:51pm Fri 19 Nov 10

newshawk says...

Actually on this the Luton voices could just be right. It could be that TY, through his agent or Alex Lawless, has tapped up Luton. He indirectly lets them know that he would be interested in getting bids for his services, Luton approach City several times and Mills feels obliged to broach the subject with the player.
Actually on this the Luton voices could just be right. It could be that TY, through his agent or Alex Lawless, has tapped up Luton. He indirectly lets them know that he would be interested in getting bids for his services, Luton approach City several times and Mills feels obliged to broach the subject with the player. newshawk
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3:53pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Southern Exile says...

A Luton Fan wrote:
There is absolutely no evidence of tapping up - suggesting otherwise is just stupid and groundless. And to the ignoramus who says we were punished for payments to unlicensesd agents all you have done is show just how little you know. Just for the record I'm posting on a story about York's claims that Luton have made offers for a player and the stupid and baseless remarks from *some* people on here. It seems to me that the money we have available right now due to us finally being run on a sensible financial footing (at last after so many dodgy owners!) is going to be a significant help to York City who have clearly run into hard times right now. Despite some of the idiots on here I really do hope you sort things out. I thought you would be up there challenging this year and believe me we at Luton know all about seeing a decent side dismantled because the finances didn't work out!
By the way the reference to unlicenced agents was by "Ozhat" presumably a Hatters fan in Oz...?
[quote][p][bold]A Luton Fan[/bold] wrote: There is absolutely no evidence of tapping up - suggesting otherwise is just stupid and groundless. And to the ignoramus who says we were punished for payments to unlicensesd agents all you have done is show just how little you know. Just for the record I'm posting on a story about York's claims that Luton have made offers for a player and the stupid and baseless remarks from *some* people on here. It seems to me that the money we have available right now due to us finally being run on a sensible financial footing (at last after so many dodgy owners!) is going to be a significant help to York City who have clearly run into hard times right now. Despite some of the idiots on here I really do hope you sort things out. I thought you would be up there challenging this year and believe me we at Luton know all about seeing a decent side dismantled because the finances didn't work out![/p][/quote]By the way the reference to unlicenced agents was by "Ozhat" presumably a Hatters fan in Oz...? Southern Exile
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3:59pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Rimpole says...

The big problem with reading the written word is the inability to judge the "tone" intended by the author.

Many people will take the script out of content and context.

Personally, I have no problem with other teams fans posting on here, it gives an insight into the opposite "argument" and should promote debate not derision.

I feel sure that I have read other forums that contain input from York fans.

As for TY leaving, best of luck and best regards. Thanks for some great and ...not so great performances. If not Luton, then Crawley, Fleetwood, Newport et al will be in with a shout.

Suspect announcing it to the YEP is a ploy to start a bidding war and drive the price wherever...

Clearly unhappy, then Dave should be allowed to go when and where he chooses. I am sure all our bosses would not lose any sleep over departures and football is just the same.

If I am offered better pay, conditions, I feel no loyalty to my current employer, and a footballer is merely an employee.

I for one, hope GM will turn the season round, with or without TY.
The big problem with reading the written word is the inability to judge the "tone" intended by the author. Many people will take the script out of content and context. Personally, I have no problem with other teams fans posting on here, it gives an insight into the opposite "argument" and should promote debate not derision. I feel sure that I have read other forums that contain input from York fans. As for TY leaving, best of luck and best regards. Thanks for some great and ...not so great performances. If not Luton, then Crawley, Fleetwood, Newport et al will be in with a shout. Suspect announcing it to the YEP is a ploy to start a bidding war and drive the price wherever... Clearly unhappy, then Dave should be allowed to go when and where he chooses. I am sure all our bosses would not lose any sleep over departures and football is just the same. If I am offered better pay, conditions, I feel no loyalty to my current employer, and a footballer is merely an employee. I for one, hope GM will turn the season round, with or without TY. Rimpole
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4:03pm Fri 19 Nov 10

yorkma says...

A Lutonfan
many thanks to your contribution, now kindly go away. There is more to this poaching/tapping up. or whatever else it could be labelled with. However, as the incident in the semi final play off went unpunished, by the FA, when your demented thugs went berserk I expect nothing happening over this either. By rights,you should you have been deducted a huge amount of points, you got away with it. I just hope and pray the bubble bursts, and you rot in this league for seasons to come.
A Lutonfan many thanks to your contribution, now kindly go away. There is more to this poaching/tapping up. or whatever else it could be labelled with. However, as the incident in the semi final play off went unpunished, by the FA, when your demented thugs went berserk I expect nothing happening over this either. By rights,you should you have been deducted a huge amount of points, you got away with it. I just hope and pray the bubble bursts, and you rot in this league for seasons to come. yorkma
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4:05pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Ricardo7471 says...

What quite a lot of you seem to forget is that it was only tossers like the MIGs who went on the pitch, they're not proper Luton fans. And we banned those guys for life what more do you want? And he wants to join us because we are a club with potential, we're a couple of points off the top spot, and he wants to join a club that can go places, what's so wrong with that?
What quite a lot of you seem to forget is that it was only tossers like the MIGs who went on the pitch, they're not proper Luton fans. And we banned those guys for life what more do you want? And he wants to join us because we are a club with potential, we're a couple of points off the top spot, and he wants to join a club that can go places, what's so wrong with that? Ricardo7471
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4:09pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Rimpole says...

I got this reply from the FA regarding the Play-Offs.

Firstly, we have to work within the FA Rules and the Rules include a paragraph that says it shall be a defence if the club can show that it took all reasonable steps to prevent the misconduct or if the misconduct was outside of the club's control. Under this system, we can only effectively charge a club if we can show that the club did not take all reasonable steps to prevent the misconduct. Perimeter fences were once used to prevent fans entering the pitch - now for very good reasons they have been removed. Stewards / police can be placed around the pitch, but there would have to be an inordinate number of stewards / police deployed to prevent any person from entering the pitch.

Secondly, we have to practise fairness and consistency whilst working within the Rules. I can assure you that this case has been dealt in a manner consistent with other cases of crowd misconduct. The FA has considered Luton Town's planning for the match, their implementation of the plan and whether the steward and police numbers were proportionate to the pre-match planning and risk / intelligence levels - from the evidence that we have reviewed it would be hard for The FA to suggest that the club should have done more to prevent the pitch incursion.
We do work closely with all clubs whose supporters are reported to the FA for misconduct - we encourage the clubs to take action against the offenders and to take all reasonable steps to prevent any repeat behaviour. In this case, the unacceptable behaviour by a significant number of Luton fans inside the stadium must be dealt with strongly by the club and the police investigation.

Where appropriate the FA will also offer operational advice to the club - if a future problem should occur and the club has not followed the FA's advice, disciplinary action could follow.
We have given Luton some operational advice for them to consider when hosting future high-profile matches at the stadium and the club has been made aware that disciplinary action could follow if there is further misconduct by Luton supporters. I hope you will find this explanation helpful.

I think we should put it behind us now, there is nowt worse than carping on about stuff that is in the past.
I got this reply from the FA regarding the Play-Offs. Firstly, we have to work within the FA Rules and the Rules include a paragraph that says it shall be a defence if the club can show that it took all reasonable steps to prevent the misconduct or if the misconduct was outside of the club's control. Under this system, we can only effectively charge a club if we can show that the club did not take all reasonable steps to prevent the misconduct. Perimeter fences were once used to prevent fans entering the pitch - now for very good reasons they have been removed. Stewards / police can be placed around the pitch, but there would have to be an inordinate number of stewards / police deployed to prevent any person from entering the pitch. Secondly, we have to practise fairness and consistency whilst working within the Rules. I can assure you that this case has been dealt in a manner consistent with other cases of crowd misconduct. The FA has considered Luton Town's planning for the match, their implementation of the plan and whether the steward and police numbers were proportionate to the pre-match planning and risk / intelligence levels - from the evidence that we have reviewed it would be hard for The FA to suggest that the club should have done more to prevent the pitch incursion. We do work closely with all clubs whose supporters are reported to the FA for misconduct - we encourage the clubs to take action against the offenders and to take all reasonable steps to prevent any repeat behaviour. In this case, the unacceptable behaviour by a significant number of Luton fans inside the stadium must be dealt with strongly by the club and the police investigation. Where appropriate the FA will also offer operational advice to the club - if a future problem should occur and the club has not followed the FA's advice, disciplinary action could follow. We have given Luton some operational advice for them to consider when hosting future high-profile matches at the stadium and the club has been made aware that disciplinary action could follow if there is further misconduct by Luton supporters. I hope you will find this explanation helpful. I think we should put it behind us now, there is nowt worse than carping on about stuff that is in the past. Rimpole
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4:09pm Fri 19 Nov 10

wearelutontown says...

Stop Blaming Luton !!!!have you ever thought about what your chaiman is doing to your club taking all the money out of you 11% intrest on whatever he lends you what a joke you guy's need to do somthing sooner rather than later!!!!

We have had this happen to us at Luton our Chairman took 20million plus out of our club and left us in big trouble you need to take action...

Luton Fan in Peace
Stop Blaming Luton !!!!have you ever thought about what your chaiman is doing to your club taking all the money out of you 11% intrest on whatever he lends you what a joke you guy's need to do somthing sooner rather than later!!!! We have had this happen to us at Luton our Chairman took 20million plus out of our club and left us in big trouble you need to take action... Luton Fan in Peace wearelutontown
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4:10pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Phantom1974 says...

A Luton Fan wrote:
There is absolutely no evidence of tapping up - suggesting otherwise is just stupid and groundless. And to the ignoramus who says we were punished for payments to unlicensesd agents all you have done is show just how little you know. Just for the record I'm posting on a story about York's claims that Luton have made offers for a player and the stupid and baseless remarks from *some* people on here. It seems to me that the money we have available right now due to us finally being run on a sensible financial footing (at last after so many dodgy owners!) is going to be a significant help to York City who have clearly run into hard times right now. Despite some of the idiots on here I really do hope you sort things out. I thought you would be up there challenging this year and believe me we at Luton know all about seeing a decent side dismantled because the finances didn't work out!
Fair play mate, as a York fan I think this anti-Luton stuff has gone way over the top and it's time it was stopped. Half the people who claim to "hate Luton" have only ever seen Luton play twice, once at home and once away at the end of last season. Doubt many of them will have to face the music down at Kenilworth Road when we go down there in December either, so it's easy for them to bandy about words like "scum" when they aren't the ones being put at risk. This case is well and truly closed, time to move on. I would rather Luton won the league than Crawley or some other non-league jokers like Rushden.
[quote][p][bold]A Luton Fan[/bold] wrote: There is absolutely no evidence of tapping up - suggesting otherwise is just stupid and groundless. And to the ignoramus who says we were punished for payments to unlicensesd agents all you have done is show just how little you know. Just for the record I'm posting on a story about York's claims that Luton have made offers for a player and the stupid and baseless remarks from *some* people on here. It seems to me that the money we have available right now due to us finally being run on a sensible financial footing (at last after so many dodgy owners!) is going to be a significant help to York City who have clearly run into hard times right now. Despite some of the idiots on here I really do hope you sort things out. I thought you would be up there challenging this year and believe me we at Luton know all about seeing a decent side dismantled because the finances didn't work out![/p][/quote]Fair play mate, as a York fan I think this anti-Luton stuff has gone way over the top and it's time it was stopped. Half the people who claim to "hate Luton" have only ever seen Luton play twice, once at home and once away at the end of last season. Doubt many of them will have to face the music down at Kenilworth Road when we go down there in December either, so it's easy for them to bandy about words like "scum" when they aren't the ones being put at risk. This case is well and truly closed, time to move on. I would rather Luton won the league than Crawley or some other non-league jokers like Rushden. Phantom1974
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4:17pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Southern Exile says...

Ricardo7471 wrote:
What quite a lot of you seem to forget is that it was only tossers like the MIGs who went on the pitch, they're not proper Luton fans. And we banned those guys for life what more do you want? And he wants to join us because we are a club with potential, we're a couple of points off the top spot, and he wants to join a club that can go places, what's so wrong with that?
You obviously haven't seen the youtube footage shot from in the Luton end in the corner by the York fans then, with those on the pitch being roared on by those in the stand... keep fooling yourself if you want but you have bigger hooligan problems than you're admitting.
[quote][p][bold]Ricardo7471[/bold] wrote: What quite a lot of you seem to forget is that it was only tossers like the MIGs who went on the pitch, they're not proper Luton fans. And we banned those guys for life what more do you want? And he wants to join us because we are a club with potential, we're a couple of points off the top spot, and he wants to join a club that can go places, what's so wrong with that?[/p][/quote]You obviously haven't seen the youtube footage shot from in the Luton end in the corner by the York fans then, with those on the pitch being roared on by those in the stand... keep fooling yourself if you want but you have bigger hooligan problems than you're admitting. Southern Exile
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4:23pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Rimpole says...

Put the bone down and let it go...
Put the bone down and let it go... Rimpole
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4:27pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Southern Exile says...

Rimpole wrote:
Put the bone down and let it go...
Grrr... gnash... oh ok...
[quote][p][bold]Rimpole[/bold] wrote: Put the bone down and let it go...[/p][/quote]Grrr... gnash... oh ok... Southern Exile
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4:32pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Rimpole says...

Good boy... LOL
Good boy... LOL Rimpole
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4:44pm Fri 19 Nov 10

YorkCity4Life says...

///I feel badly let down by McGurk, he was one of my York City heroes and I thought he was loyal to the club but it just shows, people aren't who you think they are...///
///I feel badly let down by McGurk, he was one of my York City heroes and I thought he was loyal to the club but it just shows, people aren't who you think they are.../// YorkCity4Life
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4:48pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Baggy Y Fronts says...

Disappointment doesn't really sum it up. TY is easily the most consistant player Ive seen at the Crescent for many many years. I feel for GM, he's not far short of a decent squad of players, as demonstrated the other night, but is having the rug pulled from under him. Having said that let TY walk away and let him ply his trade elsewhere and thank him for his services, Im sure we can get a replacement.
Disappointment doesn't really sum it up. TY is easily the most consistant player Ive seen at the Crescent for many many years. I feel for GM, he's not far short of a decent squad of players, as demonstrated the other night, but is having the rug pulled from under him. Having said that let TY walk away and let him ply his trade elsewhere and thank him for his services, Im sure we can get a replacement. Baggy Y Fronts
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4:53pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Rimpole says...

No doubt...

Remember a wise bloke once cautioned about what you wish for...

IdS Purkiss playing much at Oxford?
No doubt... Remember a wise bloke once cautioned about what you wish for... IdS Purkiss playing much at Oxford? Rimpole
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5:12pm Fri 19 Nov 10

PDH says...

If he wants to go make sure we get a good price for him, with sell a sell on clause, and get rid, it would not be the end of the world. He does warrant more money etc for the service he has given us but we cant afford to pay him more, so who can blame him for wanting to go. Obviously lawless could have been used to pass on imformation to persuade him.
If he wants to go make sure we get a good price for him, with sell a sell on clause, and get rid, it would not be the end of the world. He does warrant more money etc for the service he has given us but we cant afford to pay him more, so who can blame him for wanting to go. Obviously lawless could have been used to pass on imformation to persuade him. PDH
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5:25pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Yorkfrog says...

**** him. He doesn't want to be here, let him go
**** him. He doesn't want to be here, let him go Yorkfrog
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5:39pm Fri 19 Nov 10

henleazeyorkie says...

To me, this is no different (although obviosly on a hugely different scale) to what happens at, say, Liverpool where things were going t-up at a rate and players like Torres, Mascherano et-al have or were on the verge of leaving for something better because prospects at home were limited. A footballers career is limited, they are competitive people and they will see grass as being greener on the other side, especially when they know **** well they're capable.

As far as Luton are concerned, I'd personally like to see them out of the league because whatever anyone thinks, they are too big for the BSP. Agree with somone earlier that I would rather Luton go up rather than the likes of Crawley (surely on a one way ticket to doom at some point), R&D etc as history suggests that the traditional non-league teams come back down sooner or later or languish in Div 2 rather like spawning salmon. It's just a pity that City can't seem to do the same in reverse.

No doubt about it, this season may have a few twists, but it's over - planning for 2011-12 must be the priority
To me, this is no different (although obviosly on a hugely different scale) to what happens at, say, Liverpool where things were going t-up at a rate and players like Torres, Mascherano et-al have or were on the verge of leaving for something better because prospects at home were limited. A footballers career is limited, they are competitive people and they will see grass as being greener on the other side, especially when they know **** well they're capable. As far as Luton are concerned, I'd personally like to see them out of the league because whatever anyone thinks, they are too big for the BSP. Agree with somone earlier that I would rather Luton go up rather than the likes of Crawley (surely on a one way ticket to doom at some point), R&D etc as history suggests that the traditional non-league teams come back down sooner or later or languish in Div 2 rather like spawning salmon. It's just a pity that City can't seem to do the same in reverse. No doubt about it, this season may have a few twists, but it's over - planning for 2011-12 must be the priority henleazeyorkie
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5:43pm Fri 19 Nov 10

bertieb says...

Gutted. He was a tremendous player, who never let the club down. A sad day.
Gutted. He was a tremendous player, who never let the club down. A sad day. bertieb
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6:02pm Fri 19 Nov 10

DarrenMiles says...

bertieb wrote:
Gutted. He was a tremendous player, who never let the club down. A sad day.
He's not gone and won't be going. Not even allowed to talk to them, despite them tapping him up. Get another 100K off them like Lawless and then report to the FA in order I'd say.
[quote][p][bold]bertieb[/bold] wrote: Gutted. He was a tremendous player, who never let the club down. A sad day.[/p][/quote]He's not gone and won't be going. Not even allowed to talk to them, despite them tapping him up. Get another 100K off them like Lawless and then report to the FA in order I'd say. DarrenMiles
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6:31pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Hamilton Red says...

If TY does go to luton then that is 3 of the 4 players at the beginning of the season that formed the spine of our team, brodie, lawless, Ty and Ingham. While i can just about understand brodes going to crawley for the money and proberbly the promotion, i'm left speechless to see why any of our players would want to leave York for Luton. Have they such short memories of what happened in that play off game in may? Take the money millsy, and LET HIM play against us this season!
If TY does go to luton then that is 3 of the 4 players at the beginning of the season that formed the spine of our team, brodie, lawless, Ty and Ingham. While i can just about understand brodes going to crawley for the money and proberbly the promotion, i'm left speechless to see why any of our players would want to leave York for Luton. Have they such short memories of what happened in that play off game in may? Take the money millsy, and LET HIM play against us this season! Hamilton Red
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6:31pm Fri 19 Nov 10

wearelutontown says...

tapping up are you having a LARF it's more likely that him and lawless have been speaking you idiots........."tapp
ing up" dear oh dear

COYH
tapping up are you having a LARF it's more likely that him and lawless have been speaking you idiots........."tapp ing up" dear oh dear COYH wearelutontown
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6:42pm Fri 19 Nov 10

wearelutontown says...

what are you when you steal McGurk..............
..............




Lawless
what are you when you steal McGurk.............. .............. Lawless wearelutontown
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6:51pm Fri 19 Nov 10

broardsword says...

If he stays then brilliant,if he goes,he can soon be replaced,were at conferance level,theres always gonna be more mcgurks around,also young can fill that gap no bother.as for going to luton,hope he likes dirt and concrete!
If he stays then brilliant,if he goes,he can soon be replaced,were at conferance level,theres always gonna be more mcgurks around,also young can fill that gap no bother.as for going to luton,hope he likes dirt and concrete! broardsword
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7:16pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Phil, Leeds says...

If he wants away then let him go. But only at a price that suits the Club. Would suggest an asking price of £250k and tell Luton to either put up or shut up.
If he wants away then let him go. But only at a price that suits the Club. Would suggest an asking price of £250k and tell Luton to either put up or shut up. Phil, Leeds
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7:19pm Fri 19 Nov 10

wearelutontown says...

Naa we'll just take him for 60k thanks
Naa we'll just take him for 60k thanks wearelutontown
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7:32pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Southern Exile says...

wearelutontown wrote:
Naa we'll just take him for 60k thanks
And you wonder why people tell you where to go...
[quote][p][bold]wearelutontown[/bold] wrote: Naa we'll just take him for 60k thanks[/p][/quote]And you wonder why people tell you where to go... Southern Exile
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7:39pm Fri 19 Nov 10

broardsword says...

60! Ur arvin a laaaarffff my old jelly eel
60! Ur arvin a laaaarffff my old jelly eel broardsword
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7:44pm Fri 19 Nov 10

wearelutontown says...

Ok 60k and Lawless back!!!!!!!
Ok 60k and Lawless back!!!!!!! wearelutontown
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8:31pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Lizzie Browning says...

Impossible to tell as an outsider who has tapped up whom and the rights and wrongs of it. What IS clear is that the transfer window system hasn't worked and has now been reduced to farcical situations such as Brodie going 2 mins before deadline and now Lawless/TY.
I've not problem with Luton, they are using the lack of clarity to their advantage, we'd do the same. I do object to a system though which clearly isn't working.
Impossible to tell as an outsider who has tapped up whom and the rights and wrongs of it. What IS clear is that the transfer window system hasn't worked and has now been reduced to farcical situations such as Brodie going 2 mins before deadline and now Lawless/TY. I've not problem with Luton, they are using the lack of clarity to their advantage, we'd do the same. I do object to a system though which clearly isn't working. Lizzie Browning
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8:57pm Fri 19 Nov 10

sixtyfourfive says...

Lizzie Browning wrote:
Impossible to tell as an outsider who has tapped up whom and the rights and wrongs of it. What IS clear is that the transfer window system hasn't worked and has now been reduced to farcical situations such as Brodie going 2 mins before deadline and now Lawless/TY. I've not problem with Luton, they are using the lack of clarity to their advantage, we'd do the same. I do object to a system though which clearly isn't working.
Brodie went within the transfer window - 2 minutes before is within! Lawless is on loan at Luton which is permissable - City have players on loan at present. Mcgurk so far has not gone anywhere - so what system exactly is not working?

I shall be sorry to see Mcgurk go (if indeed he does) but why all the vitriol against him? Whether we like it or not Luton are a bigger club than City - bigger support, ex top flight, ex league cup winners etc etc - and players at all levels will look to better themselves in terms of money, potential, division etc. Even Premiership teams can't always hold on to their best players indefinitely if a bigger fish comes along eg Rooney from Everton to Man Utd. and many others. It has always been the case that the best players have eventually moved on (eg Dunphy, Barnes, MaCarthy, Cresswell, Greening etc etc ) - it always will be the case so why can't we accept it, wish him all the best and move on?
[quote][p][bold]Lizzie Browning[/bold] wrote: Impossible to tell as an outsider who has tapped up whom and the rights and wrongs of it. What IS clear is that the transfer window system hasn't worked and has now been reduced to farcical situations such as Brodie going 2 mins before deadline and now Lawless/TY. I've not problem with Luton, they are using the lack of clarity to their advantage, we'd do the same. I do object to a system though which clearly isn't working.[/p][/quote]Brodie went within the transfer window - 2 minutes before is within! Lawless is on loan at Luton which is permissable - City have players on loan at present. Mcgurk so far has not gone anywhere - so what system exactly is not working? I shall be sorry to see Mcgurk go (if indeed he does) but why all the vitriol against him? Whether we like it or not Luton are a bigger club than City - bigger support, ex top flight, ex league cup winners etc etc - and players at all levels will look to better themselves in terms of money, potential, division etc. Even Premiership teams can't always hold on to their best players indefinitely if a bigger fish comes along eg Rooney from Everton to Man Utd. and many others. It has always been the case that the best players have eventually moved on (eg Dunphy, Barnes, MaCarthy, Cresswell, Greening etc etc ) - it always will be the case so why can't we accept it, wish him all the best and move on? sixtyfourfive
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9:14pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Lizzie Browning says...

I've no problem with McGurk going (if he does), its a shame, but that is football. But what is the point of a transfer window if the rules are so easy to bypass using the loan then sale loophole? Sixty45, you say Lawless is on loan and technically he may be, but its a sale - the loan is just to side step the rules, as all sides have made clear. Quite what would happen were Lawless to have a bad injury during the 'loan' period though, is another question altogether.
I've no problem with McGurk going (if he does), its a shame, but that is football. But what is the point of a transfer window if the rules are so easy to bypass using the loan then sale loophole? Sixty45, you say Lawless is on loan and technically he may be, but its a sale - the loan is just to side step the rules, as all sides have made clear. Quite what would happen were Lawless to have a bad injury during the 'loan' period though, is another question altogether. Lizzie Browning
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9:46pm Fri 19 Nov 10

PDH says...

Lizzie Browning wrote:
I've no problem with McGurk going (if he does), its a shame, but that is football. But what is the point of a transfer window if the rules are so easy to bypass using the loan then sale loophole? Sixty45, you say Lawless is on loan and technically he may be, but its a sale - the loan is just to side step the rules, as all sides have made clear. Quite what would happen were Lawless to have a bad injury during the 'loan' period though, is another question altogether.
i think you will find that luton would be committed to buy him and without a doubt will have insured him against this. The loan is a load of bull---t, it is a transfer full stop.

PDH
[quote][p][bold]Lizzie Browning[/bold] wrote: I've no problem with McGurk going (if he does), its a shame, but that is football. But what is the point of a transfer window if the rules are so easy to bypass using the loan then sale loophole? Sixty45, you say Lawless is on loan and technically he may be, but its a sale - the loan is just to side step the rules, as all sides have made clear. Quite what would happen were Lawless to have a bad injury during the 'loan' period though, is another question altogether.[/p][/quote]i think you will find that luton would be committed to buy him and without a doubt will have insured him against this. The loan is a load of bull---t, it is a transfer full stop. PDH PDH
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10:19pm Fri 19 Nov 10

Tamworth 2 return says...

PDH wrote:
If he wants to go make sure we get a good price for him, with sell a sell on clause, and get rid, it would not be the end of the world. He does warrant more money etc for the service he has given us but we cant afford to pay him more, so who can blame him for wanting to go. Obviously lawless could have been used to pass on imformation to persuade him.
It was a fine weekend all round for the former York ace who also met up with former team-mates David McGurk and Alex Lawless and admits he had a sneaky feeling that Crawley might be paired with his former side in the first-round draw,

"It was nice to be back up north and get a bit of that northern air," said Brodie of last weekend's game at Guiseley.

"It was a bit colder mind but I'm a tough Geordie and I can handle that!

"I managed to meet up with Alex Lawless and Dave McGurk as well after the game, we shared a drink and had a chat.

Taken from interview with Richard Brodie post Crawleys game with Guiseley

http://www.yorkshire
eveningpost.co.uk/sp
ort/Brodie-backing-M
ills-to-lift.6626162
.jp

Looks like TY has heard that the grass is greener .... get as much dosh as we can and move on.
[quote][p][bold]PDH[/bold] wrote: If he wants to go make sure we get a good price for him, with sell a sell on clause, and get rid, it would not be the end of the world. He does warrant more money etc for the service he has given us but we cant afford to pay him more, so who can blame him for wanting to go. Obviously lawless could have been used to pass on imformation to persuade him.[/p][/quote]It was a fine weekend all round for the former York ace who also met up with former team-mates David McGurk and Alex Lawless and admits he had a sneaky feeling that Crawley might be paired with his former side in the first-round draw, "It was nice to be back up north and get a bit of that northern air," said Brodie of last weekend's game at Guiseley. "It was a bit colder mind but I'm a tough Geordie and I can handle that! "I managed to meet up with Alex Lawless and Dave McGurk as well after the game, we shared a drink and had a chat. Taken from interview with Richard Brodie post Crawleys game with Guiseley http://www.yorkshire eveningpost.co.uk/sp ort/Brodie-backing-M ills-to-lift.6626162 .jp Looks like TY has heard that the grass is greener .... get as much dosh as we can and move on. Tamworth 2 return
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7:39am Sat 20 Nov 10

newshawk says...

broardsword wrote:
If he stays then brilliant,if he goes,he can soon be replaced,were at conferance level,theres always gonna be more mcgurks around,also young can fill that gap no bother.as for going to luton,hope he likes dirt and concrete!
Dirt and and concrete? He's from Middlesborough, so of couse he does. Probably enjoys a bit of poisoned atmosphere too so he'll feel quite comfortable with this string.
[quote][p][bold]broardsword[/bold] wrote: If he stays then brilliant,if he goes,he can soon be replaced,were at conferance level,theres always gonna be more mcgurks around,also young can fill that gap no bother.as for going to luton,hope he likes dirt and concrete![/p][/quote]Dirt and and concrete? He's from Middlesborough, so of couse he does. Probably enjoys a bit of poisoned atmosphere too so he'll feel quite comfortable with this string. newshawk
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10:25am Sat 20 Nov 10

Dean Ball says...

What is wrong with you people.David is a footballer this is his job and career. York City do not own him.He is trying to improve his life for himself and his family.He is not the bloody anti christ because he wants to leave York.He has been a loyal subject to York and will give 100% whenever he pulls on a York shirt.The way you are all talking it seems like no other player has ever left York.
What is wrong with you people.David is a footballer this is his job and career. York City do not own him.He is trying to improve his life for himself and his family.He is not the bloody anti christ because he wants to leave York.He has been a loyal subject to York and will give 100% whenever he pulls on a York shirt.The way you are all talking it seems like no other player has ever left York. Dean Ball
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12:10pm Sat 20 Nov 10

YorkCityLuke says...

Dean Ball wrote:
What is wrong with you people.David is a footballer this is his job and career. York City do not own him.He is trying to improve his life for himself and his family.He is not the bloody anti christ because he wants to leave York.He has been a loyal subject to York and will give 100% whenever he pulls on a York shirt.The way you are all talking it seems like no other player has ever left York.
Its not about leaving York, its about leaving York for our hated rivals... and its about him being the second player to do so in quick succession. I agree with you that he has been good for the club though, and sincerely hope he is convinced not to leave by the management.
[quote][p][bold]Dean Ball[/bold] wrote: What is wrong with you people.David is a footballer this is his job and career. York City do not own him.He is trying to improve his life for himself and his family.He is not the bloody anti christ because he wants to leave York.He has been a loyal subject to York and will give 100% whenever he pulls on a York shirt.The way you are all talking it seems like no other player has ever left York.[/p][/quote]Its not about leaving York, its about leaving York for our hated rivals... and its about him being the second player to do so in quick succession. I agree with you that he has been good for the club though, and sincerely hope he is convinced not to leave by the management. YorkCityLuke
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2:10pm Sat 20 Nov 10

OLD - HEAD says...

The only solution is for City to try and get as big a fee as they can from Luton Town, then allow McGurk to go on loan, with a written guaranteed sale in January. If Luton wont meet our valuation, then the deal is dead. York City supporters will probably never feel the same about a player who doesnt want to play for the club, no matter how good he has been. Even if we have nobobody lined up to replace him, we have Sangare, Young or even Parslow, who can step in at Centre Back to partner Chris Smith. The club, and its future, is far more important than one individual player.
The only solution is for City to try and get as big a fee as they can from Luton Town, then allow McGurk to go on loan, with a written guaranteed sale in January. If Luton wont meet our valuation, then the deal is dead. York City supporters will probably never feel the same about a player who doesnt want to play for the club, no matter how good he has been. Even if we have nobobody lined up to replace him, we have Sangare, Young or even Parslow, who can step in at Centre Back to partner Chris Smith. The club, and its future, is far more important than one individual player. OLD - HEAD
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8:02pm Sat 20 Nov 10

goreds says...

Ricardo7471 wrote:
What quite a lot of you seem to forget is that it was only tossers like the MIGs who went on the pitch, they're not proper Luton fans. And we banned those guys for life what more do you want? And he wants to join us because we are a club with potential, we're a couple of points off the top spot, and he wants to join a club that can go places, what's so wrong with that?
Nowt. He's a pro and would go for the money even if it were Fleetwood, but there's nothing wrong in not liking it either.
[quote][p][bold]Ricardo7471[/bold] wrote: What quite a lot of you seem to forget is that it was only tossers like the MIGs who went on the pitch, they're not proper Luton fans. And we banned those guys for life what more do you want? And he wants to join us because we are a club with potential, we're a couple of points off the top spot, and he wants to join a club that can go places, what's so wrong with that?[/p][/quote]Nowt. He's a pro and would go for the money even if it were Fleetwood, but there's nothing wrong in not liking it either. goreds
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