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Salisbury condemn York City to their fourth straight defeat

8:46am Wednesday 10th March 2010 in

By Steve Carroll » Sports reporter

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TWO second-half goals condemned York City to their fourth straight defeat as they fell 2-1 to Salisbury City at Bootham Crescent.

Putting a further dent in their Blue Square Premier play-off hopes, Reece Connolly and Darrell Clarke cancelled out Djoumin Sangare’s first-half goal, put in with his hand, to extend the Minstermen’s winless run to six matches.

The result keeps City in sixth place but, with Kettering also defeated, manager Martin Foyle’s men still have a game in hand on their nearest play-off rivals.

Said Foyle: “We had enough chances and put balls into the box. I thought they worked hard and I am not going to criticise them.

“Out of the blue, it was a magnificent finish (from Connolly) and you have to take your hat off to that.

“It’s a really frustrating time and we are not playing as much football as I would like.”

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fatima blush says...
8:53am Wed 10 Mar 10

Foyle out!
City are throwing it away, what should have been a return to the League is turning into a disaster. Come on Jason McGill give the manager and players a rocket for messing up so spectacularly these last matches.

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the venerable bede says...
9:16am Wed 10 Mar 10

Whilst wending our way home from Wembley last year, if anyone had predicted that we would be in our current position at this time of the season, I'll hold my hand up and admit that I would have laughed in their face. So let's get a perspective on things and get behind the boys. We, as supporters, can influence the outcome of this season. Good players don't become crap overnight. The team seem to have been collectively smitten by a lack of confidence, which is down to the management team to fettle, but it can be massively aided by a display of unwavering support from us. Leave any inquests until the season is over, until then ..COME ON CITY.

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Everred says...
9:16am Wed 10 Mar 10

Memories of the season we got relegated to this horror league are flooding back!! Didn't win after Janurary!! At least we've amassed enough points not to go down this time!!

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Gladis Cheesepick says...
9:22am Wed 10 Mar 10

Livid. The players have to sort this out, they are not performing. We can still claw back into the play-offs but we cant muck around for much longer. Serves me right for booking the cheap trains tickets for Stevenage expecting a promotion party....

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Some old bloke says...
9:40am Wed 10 Mar 10

Okay, it wasn't promotion standard but I thought City worked very hard, clearly had most of the possession (and definitely most of the corners) and were undone by two excellent goals from Salisbury. For most of the game Salisbury packed their own penalty area and in the end they walked off with the points. Basically, we were mugged. We can't really complain, since City have done that to a few teams this season.
Roll on Saturday and lets see the usual impressive away support at Altrincham. At least the refreshments are good there (and they stay open till the end of the game, not like the part-timers in the David Longhurst stand).

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OLD - HEAD says...
9:41am Wed 10 Mar 10

I must admit I left the ground last night, feeling not angry but sad. What had promised to be a great season, is now turning sour. We tried hard enough, but just did not have the quality to beat Salisbury. The defence, once our strong point was very poor, none of our back four would get into the Salisbury team, for they defended like lions.On a good day we could have scored two or three goals, but unfortunately the good days are behind us now. Finally lets end all this talk of a blip, for a blip is when power is cut off and it comes back on fairly quickly - this is best described as "Walking on quicksand in Concrete Wellingtons".

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fatima blush says...
9:48am Wed 10 Mar 10

OLD - HEAD wrote:
I must admit I left the ground last night, feeling not angry but sad. What had promised to be a great season, is now turning sour. We tried hard enough, but just did not have the quality to beat Salisbury. The defence, once our strong point was very poor, none of our back four would get into the Salisbury team, for they defended like lions.On a good day we could have scored two or three goals, but unfortunately the good days are behind us now. Finally lets end all this talk of a blip, for a blip is when power is cut off and it comes back on fairly quickly - this is best described as "Walking on quicksand in Concrete Wellingtons".

They should dock the players wages until they start trying again. This rate York will be playing the WI in a few years time.
Why they insist on needing a 10,000 seat stadium god knows, they can't fill a third of the one they've got now.

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fewster says...
10:07am Wed 10 Mar 10

fatima blush wrote:

OLD - HEAD wrote: I must admit I left the ground last night, feeling not angry but sad. What had promised to be a great season, is now turning sour. We tried hard enough, but just did not have the quality to beat Salisbury. The defence, once our strong point was very poor, none of our back four would get into the Salisbury team, for they defended like lions.On a good day we could have scored two or three goals, but unfortunately the good days are behind us now. Finally lets end all this talk of a blip, for a blip is when power is cut off and it comes back on fairly quickly - this is best described as "Walking on quicksand in Concrete Wellingtons".
They should dock the players wages until they start trying again. This rate York will be playing the WI in a few years time. Why they insist on needing a 10,000 seat stadium god knows, they can't fill a third of the one they've got now.

Dock the players wages till they start tryin??! Thatll get em motivated by taking away their livelehood for there families etc wont it?? Were a non league team wether us fans like it or not so we have to be a bit real bout the situation these are non league players not champions league players! Keep beleivin untill its mathamatically impossible!

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Zetkin says...
10:27am Wed 10 Mar 10

I'm bemused by the comments from certain quarters to the effect that the players worked hard.
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Some certainlt did, but some need to take along hard look at themselves.
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Gash, for example. City splashed out £55,000 of the Wembley money on him,and will be paying him a relatively high wage as well. Yet we have yet to see any serious return on this investment.
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It's ludicrous to be calling for the manager's head, but Mr Foyle really does need to get this sorted out. The woeful attendance of 1800 is a sign of things to come if both performances and results don't improve pdq.

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Head of Bomber Command says...
10:32am Wed 10 Mar 10

People seem to forget that we are a CONFERENCE TEAM. You cannot expect players to consistantly perform well all the time at this level. Oxford are throwing everything including the proverbial kitching sink to get up this term and are also finding it tough this last few weeks or so. Stevenage have a more or less carry on squad of players that has seen them steadily improve over the last three seasons.

Yes Oxford and Stevenage the very same teams that were very fortunate to get even a point off York.

Our FULL first eleven was more than a match for them both.

Our first eleven played brilliant against Mansfield, and the game against Luton was worthy of a higher standard league.

The catalist of our problems for me is Richard getting suspended and then accompanied by Flawless being out injured.

We don't have the strength in depth we maybe thought we had.

The playing surface hasn't helped, but it played no part at Barrow, Ebbsfleet or Forest Green so Martin should not go down that route.

Too many of you supporters are throwing in the towel too early. We are in a position neither us nor the club expected at the seasons start. We are NOT out of it yet and not by a long chalk. Richard will get it back and when Lawless returns I hope Martin will find a place for Pitt on one of the wings (yes imp preferably the left).

This is a big game on Saturday as the team did show improvement last night, so lets hope they keep it up and that Richard puts his scoring boots on this week-end.

Don't be too critical of what the club has done to improve this year, there is a bigger picture to be looked at here. I believe imp may agree with me on this last point.

But don't give up on them lads and lasses.

HOBC

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fatima blush says...
10:46am Wed 10 Mar 10

Head of Bomber Command wrote:
People seem to forget that we are a CONFERENCE TEAM. You cannot expect players to consistantly perform well all the time at this level. Oxford are throwing everything including the proverbial kitching sink to get up this term and are also finding it tough this last few weeks or so. Stevenage have a more or less carry on squad of players that has seen them steadily improve over the last three seasons. Yes Oxford and Stevenage the very same teams that were very fortunate to get even a point off York. Our FULL first eleven was more than a match for them both. Our first eleven played brilliant against Mansfield, and the game against Luton was worthy of a higher standard league. The catalist of our problems for me is Richard getting suspended and then accompanied by Flawless being out injured. We don't have the strength in depth we maybe thought we had. The playing surface hasn't helped, but it played no part at Barrow, Ebbsfleet or Forest Green so Martin should not go down that route. Too many of you supporters are throwing in the towel too early. We are in a position neither us nor the club expected at the seasons start. We are NOT out of it yet and not by a long chalk. Richard will get it back and when Lawless returns I hope Martin will find a place for Pitt on one of the wings (yes imp preferably the left). This is a big game on Saturday as the team did show improvement last night, so lets hope they keep it up and that Richard puts his scoring boots on this week-end. Don't be too critical of what the club has done to improve this year, there is a bigger picture to be looked at here. I believe imp may agree with me on this last point. But don't give up on them lads and lasses. HOBC

HOBC it looks more a case of the players giving up on York City. Foyle doesn't give a hoot and is just hopeless a true manager can turn things around when things go bad, not just ride on the crest of a good run.
Foyle should go if they lose again this Saturday.

[quote][p][bold]Head of Bomber Command[/bold] wrote: People seem to forget that we are a CONFERENCE TEAM. You cannot expect players to consistantly perform well all the time at this level. Oxford are throwing everything including the proverbial kitching sink to get up this term and are also finding it tough this last few weeks or so. Stevenage have a more or less carry on squad of players that has seen them steadily improve over the last three seasons. Yes Oxford and Stevenage the very same teams that were very fortunate to get even a point off York. Our FULL first eleven was more than a match for them both. Our first eleven played brilliant against Mansfield, and the game against Luton was worthy of a higher standard league. The catalist of our problems for me is Richard getting suspended and then accompanied by Flawless being out injured. We don't have the strength in depth we maybe thought we had. The playing surface hasn't helped, but it played no part at Barrow, Ebbsfleet or Forest Green so Martin should not go down that route. Too many of you supporters are throwing in the towel too early. We are in a position neither us nor the club expected at the seasons start. We are NOT out of it yet and not by a long chalk. Richard will get it back and when Lawless returns I hope Martin will find a place for Pitt on one of the wings (yes imp preferably the left). This is a big game on Saturday as the team did show improvement last night, so lets hope they keep it up and that Richard puts his scoring boots on this week-end. Don't be too critical of what the club has done to improve this year, there is a bigger picture to be looked at here. I believe imp may agree with me on this last point. But don't give up on them lads and lasses. HOBC[/p][/quote]HOBC it looks more a case of the players giving up on York City. Foyle doesn't give a hoot and is just hopeless a true manager can turn things around when things go bad, not just ride on the crest of a good run. Foyle should go if they lose again this Saturday. fatima blush

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rogue84 says...
10:48am Wed 10 Mar 10

I think a lot people need to look at the bigger picture here. Last night all i heard were complete idiots (some of them men in their 40s/50s who should know better) saying that we're 'rubbish', 'useless', 'not worth watching'.
Short memories here, 11 months ago we lost at home to Northwich and were basically in the bottom 4 of the table.....
We are now just outside the play-offs with 2 months to go. Foyle has single handedly turned the fortunes of this club around (no arguments). He makes mistakes, as we all do, but as 'venerable bede' said, these players don't become bad over-night.
For most of the 9 wins in 10, we had a settled team, recently we've been without Brodie, Lawless, Mackin, McGurk and now Carruthers. Our squad isn't the biggest, we have a nucleus, but no depth. Stevenage and Oxford are by far and away the most consistent in this league, proved by the gap that's opened up. Ourselves, Luton, Mansfield, Rushden, Ketting and Wimbledon have now all had bad spells, which play-off contenders do.
Lets stay commited to our club, go to Altrincham, sing our hearts out, and the rot will stop. KEEP THE FAITH

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Head of Bomber Command says...
10:55am Wed 10 Mar 10

I would rather be in our position than another two ex league teams Cambridge and Wrexham. Things could be a lot worse for us.

I firmly believe we need just that one victory to kick start us off again.

HOBC

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ycfcontour says...
10:56am Wed 10 Mar 10

fatima blush wrote:
Foyle out! City are throwing it away, what should have been a return to the League is turning into a disaster. Come on Jason McGill give the manager and players a rocket for messing up so spectacularly these last matches.

I think to suggest that we should sack foyle is rather unwise considering this is our best season since 2006

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jaybazza says...
11:14am Wed 10 Mar 10

Ha great, people are calling for Foyles head, and writing us off for the playoffs.
Given that last year we scraped through to stay in the league.
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Tha manager has turned our fortunes around and we are currently suffering from a dip in form.
We were unlucky in the last 2 games not to have taken at least a point, we have tried and not really had the rub of the green.
Earlier in the year we were the team scraping results like this, and now its roles reversed we are all up in arms.
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Rather than wasting their breath with the negative comments, we need to get behind the boys.
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Once Salisbury got their equaliser you could hear a pin drop, this wont have helped the players and we really do need to be the twelth man especially at home.
COME ON CITY!!!!!

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RickyC says...
11:26am Wed 10 Mar 10

Foyle says he's not going to criticise the players. Why not?
So far he has had a go at the league, the pitches, the referees. What next? The changing rooms are too cold? The problem is the players are beginning to beleive its not thier fault anymore. That was evident last night because the whole second half the players where arguing with each other and blaming everyone but themselves. What we need is some leadership. I undertstand that we have some players out at the moment but these are not a group of inexperienced players. They need to step up to the mark, all of them, and not bottle this fantastic opportunity we find ourselves in this season.

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long distance depressive says...
11:36am Wed 10 Mar 10

Whilst there is certainly a major implosion going on and the players are the ones out on the pitch, the manager needs to look at himself. Despite a more attacking starting formation last night there was still no natural width other than Carruthers, who isnt a natural winger and unfortunately came off early. Pacquette is a penalty box man not a wide player. The injuries forced the team to an extent but the manner in the defeat (aagain) is hard to take. MF should be able to lift the squad and get them to have a real go. The lack of noise after their 2nd goal was down to the combination of disbelief and the realisation that we were odds on to blow it again!

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jaybazza says...
11:45am Wed 10 Mar 10

The noise died after Salisbury scored their first goal.....
We never have played with much width it is nearly always Rankine who ends out in the channels.
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The players need a captain that is capable of lifting the lads and not someone like Parslow, with all due respect he is not up to the task, and looking at the other lads on the pitch I doubt any of them are either.
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The other problem we have is our £55k man Gash, has he proved he was worth the investment yet, or is it just me starting to think it was ££ wasted?

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Head of Bomber Command says...
11:57am Wed 10 Mar 10

I believe Gash is on three yr contract and for me it will turn out to be money very well spent.

HOBC.

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THETELLEROFTALES says...
12:01pm Wed 10 Mar 10

THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ON THIS FORUM OF THE FANS GETTING BEHIND THE TEAM....WELL THATS ALL WELL AND GOOD BUT THE PLAYERS NEED TO GET BEHIND AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER....WITH BRODIE, RANKINE AND PACQUETTE ON THE FIELD I EXPECTED MORE IN TERMS OF GOAL THREAT....

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sam the keeper says...
12:26pm Wed 10 Mar 10

Undone by two very good goals, the first was worthy of the entrance money alone and the second was a good passing move which unfortunately started when Brodie passed the ball straight to one of their players.

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Rapid Vienetta says...
12:29pm Wed 10 Mar 10

We need Lawless back asap. The saving grace was last night that the other results weren't too bad and we didn't lose too much ground. It just seems at the moment whether we change players/formation/st
yle of play the net result is we lose. And finding the right combination of those is down to MF, and he needs to find it very quickly to stop this season petering out. I'm not giving up hope as it is still definitely salvagable, but I'm less hopeful today than this time yesterday.

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Colin Pratt says...
12:48pm Wed 10 Mar 10

The people on this thread who constantly bang on about how we have improved, how we are (now was) in the play-offs, how MF has turned us around etc...and how we should be grateful blah blah blah are completely THICK. YES granted this season is an improvement but being within grasping distance of challenging for the title just 2 months ago to now hanging on by the skin of our teeth for a play-off place which we are blatantly not going to get is unacceptable and to throw such a position away like we are doing is deemed in some quarters as OK as we are in the top half of the league. FOYLE HAS TO GO. I'm afraid 3 points will not be coming for a very long time and he has taken this team as far as he can. His management is obviously not working. To end such a terrific run in such diabolical circumstances to now be subject to this garbage is DISGUSTING. Anything other than promotion is a massive let down and those who settle for just “improving league places” are underachievers and quite frankly need drowning like Gladis Cheesepick’s kittens.

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on the bright side! says...
12:53pm Wed 10 Mar 10

Gash on a three year contract watching him play I dont think he has three months in him!

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YorkCityLuke says...
1:07pm Wed 10 Mar 10

Colin Pratt, what on earth are you on about? Do you even read through what you type to make sure it makes sense? You want us to sack the manager who has broken club records and got us higher in the league than we have been in many years before the season is even over?! Seriously, you need to get a grip, "fans" such as yourself are far more dissapointing than the recent poor form on the pitch.

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newshawk says...
1:10pm Wed 10 Mar 10

What sort of vile libellous calumny is the Press perpetratring on Sangare? They accuse him, in their match report, of punching the City goal last night, but all other reports including the Salisbury Journal, are of a header.

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Zebedee says...
1:23pm Wed 10 Mar 10

Colin Pratt - you really are well named! Shut up moaning and get behind the team and manager.

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jez b says...
1:25pm Wed 10 Mar 10

City are not going up this season.

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jez b says...
2:17pm Wed 10 Mar 10

ycfcontour wrote:

fatima blush wrote: Foyle out! City are throwing it away, what should have been a return to the League is turning into a disaster. Come on Jason McGill give the manager and players a rocket for messing up so spectacularly these last matches.
I think to suggest that we should sack foyle is rather unwise considering this is our best season since 2006

Chelsea sacked Grant for only getting to the Champions League final.

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Alan Fetish says...
2:36pm Wed 10 Mar 10

jez b wrote:

ycfcontour wrote:
fatima blush wrote: Foyle out! City are throwing it away, what should have been a return to the League is turning into a disaster. Come on Jason McGill give the manager and players a rocket for messing up so spectacularly these last matches.
I think to suggest that we should sack foyle is rather unwise considering this is our best season since 2006
Chelsea sacked Grant for only getting to the Champions League final.

And they haven't got that far since...

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Gladis Cheesepick says...
2:46pm Wed 10 Mar 10

Colin to bring my kittens into this is totally unacceptable - please retract and apologise. Also to sack MF is a bewildering statement - Im starting to wonder if Colin Pratt and Fatima Blush is the same cretin?
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All we need is a dirty win and we will be fine, there are plenty of points to play for and we can still get in the zone again....

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jaybazza says...
3:04pm Wed 10 Mar 10

Gladis Cheesepick wrote:
Colin to bring my kittens into this is totally unacceptable - please retract and apologise. Also to sack MF is a bewildering statement - Im starting to wonder if Colin Pratt and Fatima Blush is the same cretin? - All we need is a dirty win and we will be fine, there are plenty of points to play for and we can still get in the zone again....

Spot on, all we need is to graft a scrappy win, get the 3 points and the confidence will come flying back.
And i think the Avram Grant comparison is a poor choice, we havent got a squad of world class players, and bucket loads of ££ to invest.

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jaybazza says...
3:04pm Wed 10 Mar 10

Gladis Cheesepick wrote:
Colin to bring my kittens into this is totally unacceptable - please retract and apologise. Also to sack MF is a bewildering statement - Im starting to wonder if Colin Pratt and Fatima Blush is the same cretin? - All we need is a dirty win and we will be fine, there are plenty of points to play for and we can still get in the zone again....

Spot on, all we need is to graft a scrappy win, get the 3 points and the confidence will come flying back.
And i think the Avram Grant comparison is a poor choice, we havent got a squad of world class players, and bucket loads of ££ to invest.

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Dunc says...
3:25pm Wed 10 Mar 10

The thing is we are all sad about the current situation. The team isn't playing as well as it was, the title has gone, we are currently sitting outside the playoff zone and on current form there wouldn't be much use being in the playoff zone as we wouldn't have a hope of winning them anyway.

However!

* A couple of months ago the team looked like they could beat anyone in this league - and were regualarly beating many.
* All of those players that made up that consistent first 11 are still at the club, some are out at the moment but none are seriously injured
* I admit this is very optimistic but it is entirely possible that we could get those players back fit and the team could re-capture that form.
* If that were to happen we would comfortably make the play-offs and have a chance of standing up to anyone else in them.

Red Army!

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jez b says...
3:33pm Wed 10 Mar 10

York deserves to have a good side not the rubbish that turned out last night. Let the council buy the club a la Real Madrid and pour in the dosh.

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RuralChap says...
3:55pm Wed 10 Mar 10

I was at the game last night. As a whole the team worked hard. Nobody looked like they were just making up the numbers. My observations are as follows....There is obvious nerves, mixed with frustration running though the team at the moment. Take young JM. In my eyes he was probably the most improved player in a City shirt mid-season. Over the past few games he has looked totally shell shocked. A great deal of expectation has fallen on our young team, and at this moment in time it has had a huge impact right tho the team. This is the time (before the season slipd away) for MF and the senior players to get to grips with the situation. We need a couple of players (like A Ferrell did ) to issue a rallying call. The chaps need to have a quite word with themselves and regain the self confidance that was all to evident only a few weeks ago. Come on lads, you can do it. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves and return to playing football 100%. You get nothing in life without having guts/drive/determina
tion and a will to win. If I had the time I would love to spell this out to you face to face. Now.....get on with the job in hand.

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drummer says...
4:23pm Wed 10 Mar 10

what worries me the most,is when the team turn in a display like last night and the manager says on radio york.that he thought the lads played ok and moved the ball around well,and wont be having a go at the players.now this concerns me a lot.how can the players step up their game and improve.if the managers is satisfied.

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jaybazza says...
4:44pm Wed 10 Mar 10

drummer wrote:
what worries me the most,is when the team turn in a display like last night and the manager says on radio york.that he thought the lads played ok and moved the ball around well,and wont be having a go at the players.now this concerns me a lot.how can the players step up their game and improve.if the managers is satisfied.

I missed the post game interview, but I disagree with that completely, 6 games without a win.... The lads need a boot up the arse to get themselves going.
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Am i satisfied with the possibility of BSP football next year after such a good year. NOT A CHANCE.
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Can you confirm Foyle wasnt talking about Salisbury's performance? Thats the only way i can see him being satisfied, because we were under par.
And with 3 very difficult games coming up when is the rot going to stop, I really do hope we can get some points against Altrincham, Mansfield and Wimbledon, but honestly i cant see how we will achieve it based on our last few performances....

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OLD - HEAD says...
4:50pm Wed 10 Mar 10

I didnt hear many people having a go at the team, there was more sadness and disappointment than anger. It just isnt going right on the pitch because we look a dis-jointed outfit. Pacquette was lost on the wing, and his replacement Smith no better, even though he has had more chances than he deserves to have. Clarke and Barret made little impact from midfield and the back four struggled against the few Salisbury attacks they managed. Even Brodie is struggling, he gave the ball away, got it back, and then gave it away again, he then put his hand up to acknowledge his mistake, but it was too late as Salisbury had gone through to score their second goal. The only bright spot was Courtney Pitt, who played quite well after replacing Carruthers. To say it went quiet after Salisbury scored their second goal is understandable, for everyone was shell-shocked. If the happy clappers in the Longhurst Stand go quiet, then there must be something wrong. When I got home and discovered most of our challengers had also lost, it was no consolation, for at the moment we just dont look capable of turning the corner. People keep saying "but look where we were last year", but that will all count for nothing if we go back there. I have not given up on City despite this disappointment, and I will be at Altrincham on Saturday."Keep the Faith".

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shirl.ycs says...
4:50pm Wed 10 Mar 10

"I'm now willing to enter into talks on contracts" -Martin Foyles comments on these very pages ,the morning of Feb 13th...and we all know what had happened bt 5pm that afternoon. I've got a very uneasy feeling that there are a few players out there that didn't get what they bargained for and are now having a bit of a"paddy". Me thinks a few players to come on loan...asap.. Much needed as last night Micheal Gash's idea of a warm up was to spend 5 minutes hands behind his back chatting to Adam Smith who at least was stretching and jogging on the spot. Says it all really doesn't it ....So does the security word.."lazy hour"!!!!!

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Rapid Vienetta says...
5:16pm Wed 10 Mar 10

I didn't think we should get players in on loan but wonder if it is worth it now to try and just break out of this rut and liven the team up. Would have to be a forward for me as we are scoring so few goals at the moment. On that note would stick with Sangare in the starting 11 from now on as he is dangerous at set pieces.

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shirl.ycs says...
5:29pm Wed 10 Mar 10

newshawk wrote:
What sort of vile libellous calumny is the Press perpetratring on Sangare? They accuse him, in their match report, of punching the City goal last night, but all other reports including the Salisbury Journal, are of a header.

Once again another report full of bile. Somebody put a Fatwa on em!

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york city fc says...
5:42pm Wed 10 Mar 10

I was also wondering about that awful game against Ebbsfleet. I don't see a huge amount of games but on that day couldn't believe what I was seeing. Considering the position York had secured in the league at that time I thought the support from the fans was unusually lame. A short way into the game I remember Ingham laughing and thought how poor Ebbsfleet were and there was no way York were going to lose the game. Perhaps York were over confident or complacent then later Brodie was sent off for a ridiculous foul and of course they lost the game. It's very hard to accept what's happening to York but the spirit of the side seems to have been broken and I too feel something is going on behind the scenes . Still, considering the terrible results of late a positive is they are still close- I think it's crazy to think about sacking MF - lot's of sides are fighting for promotion- we don't have any special right to get it.

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diamond head says...
9:33pm Wed 10 Mar 10

Rapid Vienetta wrote:
We need Lawless back asap. The saving grace was last night that the other results weren't too bad and we didn't lose too much ground. It just seems at the moment whether we change players/formation/st yle of play the net result is we lose. And finding the right combination of those is down to MF, and he needs to find it very quickly to stop this season petering out. I'm not giving up hope as it is still definitely salvagable, but I'm less hopeful today than this time yesterday.

still saying i was talking rubbish my ice cream friend? truth will out!!!!!!!!!! they have been playing above their true position which from what i have seen is not much lower than they are now.

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rogue84 says...
11:00pm Wed 10 Mar 10

by the way, no idea for the reason, but why as Mackin been dropped? our un-sung hero of the season who's quietly and dependebly gone about his job alongside Barrett.
would like to see him return at Altrincham

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Head of Bomber Command says...
6:23am Thu 11 Mar 10

As for behind the scenes conspiracy theories, don't go looking for snow when there is none about.

HOBC

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Jezza49 says...
7:23am Thu 11 Mar 10

rogue84 wrote:
by the way, no idea for the reason, but why as Mackin been dropped? our un-sung hero of the season who's quietly and dependebly gone about his job alongside Barrett. would like to see him return at Altrincham

One of the 4 players who picked up an injury at FGR. McGurk, Brodie, Parslow and Mackin. Brodie played Tuesday still carrying his knock, Parslow only fit enough for the bench, the other 2 not fit enough to make the squad.

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jez b says...
8:09am Thu 11 Mar 10

shirl.ycs wrote:
"I'm now willing to enter into talks on contracts" -Martin Foyles comments on these very pages ,the morning of Feb 13th...and we all know what had happened bt 5pm that afternoon. I've got a very uneasy feeling that there are a few players out there that didn't get what they bargained for and are now having a bit of a"paddy". Me thinks a few players to come on loan...asap.. Much needed as last night Micheal Gash's idea of a warm up was to spend 5 minutes hands behind his back chatting to Adam Smith who at least was stretching and jogging on the spot. Says it all really doesn't it ....So does the security word.."lazy hour"!!!!!

Think you are right, these players don't give a monkeys about YCFC only themsleves. And Foyle must go if they lose again on Saturday, simple as that.

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Head of Bomber Command says...
8:53am Thu 11 Mar 10

They would be in breach of contract lads.

You are looking for stuff that just isn't there.

HOBC

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jez b says...
9:35am Thu 11 Mar 10

If you get sacked from a job in the real world you don't get paid all the money you were ever going to earn. Why do footballers get such special treatment?

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Jezza49 says...
10:02am Thu 11 Mar 10

jez b wrote:
If you get sacked from a job in the real world you don't get paid all the money you were ever going to earn. Why do footballers get such special treatment?

Players simply wouldn't sign for a club if their contract stipulated they could get sacked, with loss of earnings, should their performance not reach expectations.
The nearest you get to that in the football world is players signing on non-contract terms, in order to try and prove their worth and obtain a contract.

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Imp says...
12:04pm Thu 11 Mar 10

jez b wrote:
If you get sacked from a job in the real world you don't get paid all the money you were ever going to earn. Why do footballers get such special treatment?

Footballers rarely ever get sacked. They may get their contracts terminated, but it's not quite the same thing.
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In the rare examples where a player is sacked, they don't get a pay-off, and may in fact even be sued for recompense.
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More usually, an underperforming player that is "released" agrees a settlement with the club to allow the club to re-invest, but the player to have some financial cover while they find a new employer.
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The big problem is, how do you sack a player for underperforming? It's pretty subjective, and the player can turn round and blame x,y and z other factors for his performances. So it's just not a viable option.
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I don't think the underperformance is anything to do with players having some hissy-fit over contracts. It's purely and inevitably the balancing out of luck from earlier in the season. We had some real good fortune in our winning run, with several games we should have lost (have people forgotten that already?). Now, we have games like Salisbury (and I was there, I thought we deserved to win, even though it wasn't a classic), where the luck runs the other way. So it's arguable we were in a false position ourselves in 3rd, and are now settling into the play-off pack where we actually belong.
I saw enough on Tuesday night to convince me that things are improving, and remain hopeful we'll see victory on Saturday.
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jonmccarthy says...
12:26pm Thu 11 Mar 10

Can't believe the idiots on here calling for foyle to be sacked. Some so-called fans seem to follow the club just to give themselves an opportunity to spout abuse and negativity. True fans get behind their team even when things aren't going their way. If we'd have gone down last year all the decent players would have left and we would never have had a chance of league football again. Instead we've played really well for a large proportion of this season and are still at this moment in with a very good chance of a playoff place. So get behind the lads and the manager as the critical phase of the season approaches. COME ON CITY!

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jonmccarthy says...
12:28pm Thu 11 Mar 10

Can't believe the idiots on here calling for foyle to be sacked. Some so-called fans seem to follow the club just to give themselves an opportunity to spout abuse and negativity. True fans get behind their team even when things aren't going their way. If we'd have gone down last year all the decent players would have left and we would never have had a chance of league football again. Instead we've played really well for a large proportion of this season and are still at this moment in with a very good chance of a playoff place. So get behind the lads and the manager as the critical phase of the season approaches. COME ON CITY!

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Head of Bomber Command says...
12:57pm Thu 11 Mar 10

jonmccarthy wrote:
Can't believe the idiots on here calling for foyle to be sacked. Some so-called fans seem to follow the club just to give themselves an opportunity to spout abuse and negativity. True fans get behind their team even when things aren't going their way. If we'd have gone down last year all the decent players would have left and we would never have had a chance of league football again. Instead we've played really well for a large proportion of this season and are still at this moment in with a very good chance of a playoff place. So get behind the lads and the manager as the critical phase of the season approaches. COME ON CITY!

You are preaching to the converted here jm.

Yes they need support at the buisness end of the season.

HOBC

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jez b says...
1:17pm Thu 11 Mar 10

jonmccarthy wrote:
Can't believe the idiots on here calling for foyle to be sacked. Some so-called fans seem to follow the club just to give themselves an opportunity to spout abuse and negativity. True fans get behind their team even when things aren't going their way. If we'd have gone down last year all the decent players would have left and we would never have had a chance of league football again. Instead we've played really well for a large proportion of this season and are still at this moment in with a very good chance of a playoff place. So get behind the lads and the manager as the critical phase of the season approaches. COME ON CITY!

You really think they have decent players. One or two at the most I'm afraid. Sad but true York City is a dying club.

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Tug job says...
2:44pm Thu 11 Mar 10

Colin and Fatima are obviously being provocative, what is known on other forums as "trolling", rather than being in any way rational. I appreciate this renders me thick, in their opinions, but I don't mind that for one moment - I don't know them and, even if I did, I probably wouldn't respect them. Was the endeavour there on Tuesday night - for long periods, yes it was. Did Salisbury make their most of their chances, yes they did. It was a reasonable game of football (and only a game of football, let's get this in some perspective) in which one side tried but struggled when they had possession but the other side took their limited chances. We have won many games this season (Cambridge and Rushden, both away, spring to mind) employing exactly the same tactics; for me, this indicates that we have an astute manager. We will still make the play offs. We have half a dozen players who would walk into most sides, Stevenage, by far the best team in the Conference, being the exception. I cannot make my annual pilgrimage to Altrincham at the weekend and I am sorry to be missing what is always an enjoyable day out. Roll on satursday and what will be our first win in six.

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theviewfrombelow says...
2:45pm Thu 11 Mar 10

jez b wrote:

jonmccarthy wrote:
Can't believe the idiots on here calling for foyle to be sacked. Some so-called fans seem to follow the club just to give themselves an opportunity to spout abuse and negativity. True fans get behind their team even when things aren't going their way. If we'd have gone down last year all the decent players would have left and we would never have had a chance of league football again. Instead we've played really well for a large proportion of this season and are still at this moment in with a very good chance of a playoff place. So get behind the lads and the manager as the critical phase of the season approaches. COME ON CITY!
You really think they have decent players. One or two at the most I'm afraid. Sad but true York City is a dying club.

A dying club?? Everyone's entitled to their opinion but why don't you just go jog on a support Leeds like you want to anyway Jez B?

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Tug job says...
2:49pm Thu 11 Mar 10

jez b wrote:

jonmccarthy wrote: Can't believe the idiots on here calling for foyle to be sacked. Some so-called fans seem to follow the club just to give themselves an opportunity to spout abuse and negativity. True fans get behind their team even when things aren't going their way. If we'd have gone down last year all the decent players would have left and we would never have had a chance of league football again. Instead we've played really well for a large proportion of this season and are still at this moment in with a very good chance of a playoff place. So get behind the lads and the manager as the critical phase of the season approaches. COME ON CITY!
You really think they have decent players. One or two at the most I'm afraid. Sad but true York City is a dying club.

The dying are deserving of sympathy and consideration, rather than hostility; their loved ones need empathy and compassion, not provocation.

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jez b says...
3:56pm Thu 11 Mar 10

What happened to Douglas Craig?

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PDH says...
5:45pm Thu 11 Mar 10

jez b wrote:
What happened to Douglas Craig?

This just proves what a to**er you are, go and wind them up on some other site. (prob already do)
PDH

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PDH says...
5:47pm Thu 11 Mar 10

ss
PDH

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jez b says...
10:36am Fri 12 Mar 10

PDH wrote:

jez b wrote: What happened to Douglas Craig?
This just proves what a to**er you are, go and wind them up on some other site. (prob already do) PDH

You didn't answer the question and while you do how about John Batchelor!!

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jaybazza says...
10:48am Fri 12 Mar 10

This is all crap from the past, we have financial security now and are not run by idiots like you have mentioned.
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Jez B have you even been to a game? Or in fact do you even know what you are on about?
York City are not a dying club, So called fans like you are best staying at home in the armchair thinking you know everything about everything.

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