PM calls for 'immediate' ceasefire

Hamas should be brought into the Middle East political process, former diplomat Sir John Holmes has said

Palestinian fishermen run to inspect the damage at the storage area at the port where they keep their nets and equipment in Gaza City, northern Gaza Strip, hit by an Israeli strike

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David Cameron has called for an "unconditional, immediate, humanitarian ceasefire" in Gaza to bring a halt to more than three weeks of violence which has claimed the lives of about 1,100 Palestinians and 55 Israelis.

In what was reported to be the heaviest night of bombardments since the current conflict began, a fuel container at the Gaza Strip's only power plant was hit by Israeli tank shells, while at least two explosions hit a media centre housing local TV and radio as well as a number of Arab satellite news channels.

Israeli aircraft and tank attacks on symbols of Hamas control in the tiny Palestinian enclave followed a warning in a televised speech by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of a "prolonged" campaign in Gaza.

Speaking during a visit to Slough, Berkshire, Mr Cameron said: "What it's time for is unconditional, immediate, humanitarian ceasefire.

"What we're seeing is absolutely heartbreaking in terms of the loss of life, and the pictures that everyone has seen on their television screen are really heart-rending and everyone wants to see this stopped, so an immediate unconditional ceasefire, that is what is required."

The Prime Minister made clear that he blames Hamas, the political movement which controls Gaza, for the outbreak of the current rounding of fighting, saying: "Hamas must stop attacking Israel with rocket attacks. That is how this started. It's completely unjustified and they need to stop as part of the ceasefire."

But a former senior British diplomat called for talks with Hamas to bring it into the Middle East political process.

Sir John Holmes was UN emergency relief co-ordinator during the last Israeli invasion of Gaza in 2009, and said that five years on the current situation was "very much the same".

"I fear that, unless we escape this infernal logic of violence on both sides, in five years' time we will be in exactly the same situation again," Sir John told BBC Radio 4's Today.

"So something has to change - obviously the fighting has to end very quickly because the bloodshed is completely unacceptable from every point of view, but the politics at the same time.

"Hamas is not going to go away and I think that we have accept that, instead of just isolating Hamas, we need to talk to them."

Sir John, who is co-chair of the International Rescue Committee UK, added : " I accept Israel is going to say 'Well, that is just rewarding terrorism' but that is the kind of language and attitude we have to get away from.

"The rest of the world has to say 'We can't go on like this'. We have to talk to Hamas... Let's talk to them as we did talk to others and try to bring them into the political process and stop pretending they are going to go away."

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12:43pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

We must speak to Hamas, but what on earth would we say to them?

"Oh, I do adore your pashmina, sweetie, it looks divine must wear it to the mardi gras next year! Erm...oops...okay then, burnt any good books lately....?"
We must speak to Hamas, but what on earth would we say to them? "Oh, I do adore your pashmina, sweetie, it looks divine must wear it to the mardi gras next year! Erm...oops...okay then, burnt any good books lately....?" Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: -23

4:04pm Tue 29 Jul 14

cj07589 says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
We must speak to Hamas, but what on earth would we say to them?

"Oh, I do adore your pashmina, sweetie, it looks divine must wear it to the mardi gras next year! Erm...oops...okay then, burnt any good books lately....?"
Similar statements were made about the IRA back during the troubles and they have seats in Northern Ireland's democratic parliament. Therefore speaking with Hamas will need to be done whether you like it or not.
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: We must speak to Hamas, but what on earth would we say to them? "Oh, I do adore your pashmina, sweetie, it looks divine must wear it to the mardi gras next year! Erm...oops...okay then, burnt any good books lately....?"[/p][/quote]Similar statements were made about the IRA back during the troubles and they have seats in Northern Ireland's democratic parliament. Therefore speaking with Hamas will need to be done whether you like it or not. cj07589
  • Score: 11

7:14pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Shropshirelad says...

What a treacherous, hypocritical, deceitful man. He is up to his ears in support for the Israelis, not one word from him in support of the Palestinians who have been treated as sub-humans. All he can say is that the Israelis are justified in defending themselves and that the Palestinians should cease firing rockets. He needs some lessons in what an occupied people can and cannot do. THEY CAN FIGHT AGAINST ILLEGAL OCCUPATION. You fool nobody Cameron and you treat and speak for us as if we are thick fools. Cameron is just as guilty of these atrocities as the Israelis. Until he speaks out in unequivocal terms against Israel and relinquishes his membership of the Conservative Friends of Israel Association then in the book of those who support the Palestinian people in their fight for justice and humanity, he is no better than an IDF pilot who releases the bombs on Gaza.
What a treacherous, hypocritical, deceitful man. He is up to his ears in support for the Israelis, not one word from him in support of the Palestinians who have been treated as sub-humans. All he can say is that the Israelis are justified in defending themselves and that the Palestinians should cease firing rockets. He needs some lessons in what an occupied people can and cannot do. THEY CAN FIGHT AGAINST ILLEGAL OCCUPATION. You fool nobody Cameron and you treat and speak for us as if we are thick fools. Cameron is just as guilty of these atrocities as the Israelis. Until he speaks out in unequivocal terms against Israel and relinquishes his membership of the Conservative Friends of Israel Association then in the book of those who support the Palestinian people in their fight for justice and humanity, he is no better than an IDF pilot who releases the bombs on Gaza. Shropshirelad
  • Score: 5

8:30pm Tue 29 Jul 14

architron says...

Lets not forget that Isreali government radicalised Hamas to rise because Yasser Arafat was getting to poweful in the region. When Hamas get to powerfull Isreal want to take them out.

The concentration camps of WW2 should never have happend and the concentration camp of Palastine should not be happening today.

The western medai neglects to show the Jewish people in Isreal protesting the war crimes of political Zionism.

That is the crux of the problem, "Political Zionism" and not the Jewish people.

I love Jewish people and I detest political Zionism.

Just look on youtube for evidence of War Crimes against the Palistinian people in the open air concentration camp of Gaza.

Children as young as 12 being snatched from their homes in early morning raids and being interogated.

Toddlers with double tap gunshots to the chest.

Teenagers being shot in the back for throwing stones. Just to list a few.

This ex isreali Army captain sums up what is happening in an interview with the BBC.

http://m.youtube.com
/watch?v=VPha8haPWqI


A good song by a guy who survived ethnic cleansing in Srebrinica.

http://m.youtube.com
/watch?v=VDxFeDKgDKM


http://www.globalres
earch.ca/theme/crime
s-against-humanity
Lets not forget that Isreali government radicalised Hamas to rise because Yasser Arafat was getting to poweful in the region. When Hamas get to powerfull Isreal want to take them out. The concentration camps of WW2 should never have happend and the concentration camp of Palastine should not be happening today. The western medai neglects to show the Jewish people in Isreal protesting the war crimes of political Zionism. That is the crux of the problem, "Political Zionism" and not the Jewish people. I love Jewish people and I detest political Zionism. Just look on youtube for evidence of War Crimes against the Palistinian people in the open air concentration camp of Gaza. Children as young as 12 being snatched from their homes in early morning raids and being interogated. Toddlers with double tap gunshots to the chest. Teenagers being shot in the back for throwing stones. Just to list a few. This ex isreali Army captain sums up what is happening in an interview with the BBC. http://m.youtube.com /watch?v=VPha8haPWqI A good song by a guy who survived ethnic cleansing in Srebrinica. http://m.youtube.com /watch?v=VDxFeDKgDKM http://www.globalres earch.ca/theme/crime s-against-humanity architron
  • Score: 3

11:54pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Shropshirelad says...

architron, I couldn't agree more. My one abiding memory of everyday life in Israel took place one morning in Netanya. A little elderly lady was allowing her little daschund dog to **** his leg against the leg of a bench. She could have been anywhere in the world. I also had a similar dog. I jokingly made some comment to her and we sat on the bench and chatted. She was originally English before emigrating to Israel, despite the heat, she was dressed as a very refined English "lady" would dress, even down to the pearls, handbag and other jewellery. She could have been mine or anybody's grandmother, planes roared overhead which made her very indignant and without any prompting from me was very critical of the government. I brought her up to date about England and she hung onto every word saying that she wished she could go back but her age and pension made it impossible.
That little chat with that little elderly lady and her dog made me realise that their are some beautiful people in Israel and it lifted my spirits at a time when I faced a rather depressing prospect of more weeks in Israel. There are many people in Israel that have seen through their government and it's policies with regard to the Palestinians, there is even Army units that want nothing to do with oppressing and massacring the Palestinians, indeed some few years ago some soldiers refused to be drafted against the Palestinians. Unfortunately these are in the minority and the likes of the right wingers and the Netanyahu's hold sway. What the Israelis don't realise is that for every Palestinian they kill, there is at least ten more who will hate them to their dying day because of it and the reputation of Israel sinks lower and lower on the international scene. Only America can stop this with Britain following closely behind but both have vested interests in Israel and an intense loathing of Palestinians. As things stand, there is no hope of peace.
architron, I couldn't agree more. My one abiding memory of everyday life in Israel took place one morning in Netanya. A little elderly lady was allowing her little daschund dog to **** his leg against the leg of a bench. She could have been anywhere in the world. I also had a similar dog. I jokingly made some comment to her and we sat on the bench and chatted. She was originally English before emigrating to Israel, despite the heat, she was dressed as a very refined English "lady" would dress, even down to the pearls, handbag and other jewellery. She could have been mine or anybody's grandmother, planes roared overhead which made her very indignant and without any prompting from me was very critical of the government. I brought her up to date about England and she hung onto every word saying that she wished she could go back but her age and pension made it impossible. That little chat with that little elderly lady and her dog made me realise that their are some beautiful people in Israel and it lifted my spirits at a time when I faced a rather depressing prospect of more weeks in Israel. There are many people in Israel that have seen through their government and it's policies with regard to the Palestinians, there is even Army units that want nothing to do with oppressing and massacring the Palestinians, indeed some few years ago some soldiers refused to be drafted against the Palestinians. Unfortunately these are in the minority and the likes of the right wingers and the Netanyahu's hold sway. What the Israelis don't realise is that for every Palestinian they kill, there is at least ten more who will hate them to their dying day because of it and the reputation of Israel sinks lower and lower on the international scene. Only America can stop this with Britain following closely behind but both have vested interests in Israel and an intense loathing of Palestinians. As things stand, there is no hope of peace. Shropshirelad
  • Score: 1

6:20pm Wed 30 Jul 14

welshmen says...

Italian Reporter Reveals Hamas Cover-Up Over Misfired Rockets

Journalist backs IDF version of missile strike on school playground, says Hamas rockets went astray. But it's just the tip of the iceberg.

By Ari Soffer
First Publish: 7/30/2014, 10:01 AM

Child injured in rocket strike on playground in Shati refugee camp
Child injured in rocket strike on playground in Shati refugee campFlash 90
An Italian journalist who until Tuesday was embedded in Gaza has backed the IDF's account of a rocket strike on a school playground in central Gaza's Shati refugee camp on Monday.

At least 10 people were killed in the attack - most of them children - and some sources claimed the death toll was as high as 30. Palestinian sources were quick to blame Israel, claiming that an Israeli fighter jet fired missiles directly at the playground and nearby hospital. Israel denied the accusations, saying that Hamas rockets aimed at Israel from the area misfired, and struck both the school and the hospital:

IDF Tweet illustrating the path of misfired Hamas rockets:



Verifying facts on the ground in Gaza is notoriously difficult for foreign reporters, and even for Palestinian journalists seen as aligned with the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority, as journalists are closely watched by Hamas security forces and can face interrogation and a permanent ban from Gaza for publishing material deemed unfavorable to the territory's Islamist rulers. As such, little information has emerged on what exactly happened that day in Shati.

But returning from a stint in Gaza, and safe from what he ominously referred to as potential "Hamas retaliation", Italian journalist Gabriele Barbati broke the media silence by tweeting the following message, confirming that Hamas terrorists rushed to cover up evidence of what was indeed errant rocket fire aimed at Israel:



During the 23 days of Operation Protective Edge a handful of journalists have defied, purposefully or inadvertently, Hamas's restrictions on reporting negative information from Gaza - only to backtrack soon after.

Two cases in particular were highlighted earlier this week. In one, Wall Street Journal reported Nick Casey tweeted evidence - and veiled criticism - over Hamas's leadership's use of Shifa Hospital in Gaza as a command center, shedding more light on the group's use of human shields. Hamas reacted furiously, and a Hamas-affiliated twitter account blacklisted him as a journalist "who lies for Israel" - a potentially deadly accusation for anyone in Gaza, let alone a foreigner. Shortly afterwards, the tweet was promptly removed by Casey.

Hamas



Numerous foreign journalists have admitted to interviewing Hamas leaders inside the hospital, but their reports are notable for the lack of emphasis placed on such a flagrant violation of international law.

In the second case, another WSJ journalist tweeted evidence of a Hamas rocket misfire which damaged Gaza's main hospital. Again, shortly after tweeting it, Tamer El-Ghobashi removed the evidence.

Deleted tweets:



The use of human shields by Gazan terrorist groups during the current conflict has been repeatedly documented. Both Hamas and Islamic Jihad have stored and fired rockets from within densely-populated civilian areas, making Israeli attempts to stop them without causing collateral damage near to impossible. To compound the problem, Hamas has openly encouraged civilians to act as human shields, glorifying their actions as heroism.

Terrorists have also used hospitals and schools as command centers and military bases.

On Tuesday, the United Nations Work and Relief Agency (UNWRA) admitted that it had discovered rockets stored in one of its schools for the third time.

Hamas has not issued a response to Barbari's claims, and it is unclear whether he will face a ban from reporting from the Strip in the future. But whatever happens to him, his claims raise some uncomfortable questions about the objectivity of reports coming from Gaza - in particular the accuracy of the much-touted civilian death toll, and who may be responsible for it.
Italian Reporter Reveals Hamas Cover-Up Over Misfired Rockets Journalist backs IDF version of missile strike on school playground, says Hamas rockets went astray. But it's just the tip of the iceberg. By Ari Soffer First Publish: 7/30/2014, 10:01 AM Child injured in rocket strike on playground in Shati refugee camp Child injured in rocket strike on playground in Shati refugee campFlash 90 An Italian journalist who until Tuesday was embedded in Gaza has backed the IDF's account of a rocket strike on a school playground in central Gaza's Shati refugee camp on Monday. At least 10 people were killed in the attack - most of them children - and some sources claimed the death toll was as high as 30. Palestinian sources were quick to blame Israel, claiming that an Israeli fighter jet fired missiles directly at the playground and nearby hospital. Israel denied the accusations, saying that Hamas rockets aimed at Israel from the area misfired, and struck both the school and the hospital: IDF Tweet illustrating the path of misfired Hamas rockets: Verifying facts on the ground in Gaza is notoriously difficult for foreign reporters, and even for Palestinian journalists seen as aligned with the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority, as journalists are closely watched by Hamas security forces and can face interrogation and a permanent ban from Gaza for publishing material deemed unfavorable to the territory's Islamist rulers. As such, little information has emerged on what exactly happened that day in Shati. But returning from a stint in Gaza, and safe from what he ominously referred to as potential "Hamas retaliation", Italian journalist Gabriele Barbati broke the media silence by tweeting the following message, confirming that Hamas terrorists rushed to cover up evidence of what was indeed errant rocket fire aimed at Israel: During the 23 days of Operation Protective Edge a handful of journalists have defied, purposefully or inadvertently, Hamas's restrictions on reporting negative information from Gaza - only to backtrack soon after. Two cases in particular were highlighted earlier this week. In one, Wall Street Journal reported Nick Casey tweeted evidence - and veiled criticism - over Hamas's leadership's use of Shifa Hospital in Gaza as a command center, shedding more light on the group's use of human shields. Hamas reacted furiously, and a Hamas-affiliated twitter account blacklisted him as a journalist "who lies for Israel" - a potentially deadly accusation for anyone in Gaza, let alone a foreigner. Shortly afterwards, the tweet was promptly removed by Casey. Hamas Numerous foreign journalists have admitted to interviewing Hamas leaders inside the hospital, but their reports are notable for the lack of emphasis placed on such a flagrant violation of international law. In the second case, another WSJ journalist tweeted evidence of a Hamas rocket misfire which damaged Gaza's main hospital. Again, shortly after tweeting it, Tamer El-Ghobashi removed the evidence. Deleted tweets: The use of human shields by Gazan terrorist groups during the current conflict has been repeatedly documented. Both Hamas and Islamic Jihad have stored and fired rockets from within densely-populated civilian areas, making Israeli attempts to stop them without causing collateral damage near to impossible. To compound the problem, Hamas has openly encouraged civilians to act as human shields, glorifying their actions as heroism. Terrorists have also used hospitals and schools as command centers and military bases. On Tuesday, the United Nations Work and Relief Agency (UNWRA) admitted that it had discovered rockets stored in one of its schools for the third time. Hamas has not issued a response to Barbari's claims, and it is unclear whether he will face a ban from reporting from the Strip in the future. But whatever happens to him, his claims raise some uncomfortable questions about the objectivity of reports coming from Gaza - in particular the accuracy of the much-touted civilian death toll, and who may be responsible for it. welshmen
  • Score: -4

8:27pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Shropshirelad says...

Israel has one, if not "the" best propaganda set up in the world bar none. Almost without exception it's members have all attended The Joseph Goebbels College of Lies and Propaganda because every word that comes out of the mouths of Lt. Col Peter Lerner and that arch Liar, Regev is a blatant lie made to support the case for justifying the genocide of the Palestinians. Now we have this "Welshmen" who from the comments he makes has one motive, to lie, twist, distort and give spin to stories which appear to have come straight from that College in Tel Aviv. If I were an Israeli and my country was reviled and castigated throughout the world for being such an abomination of civilization, I would put out such stories as the Welshmen puts out, are they going to sit back and tell the truth to justify killing thousands of people including 250 young children and babes in arms. If I were found out for bombing schools and killing schoolchildren, of course I would lie through my teeth and say that arms were stored there. The comments of Welshmen have all the hallmarks of a contrived and lying miscellany of issues to support every lying statement of the Israelis, Readers will also notice that the comments contain Israeli names and sources that to say the least are highly suspect. As for the rest of the "guff" that he writes, human shields etc, well we can listen to that every day of the week whilst these atrocities continue. The people putting these comments out are Israelis who make the lie to fit their atrocity.
New York is one of the cities which I think, contains more Israeli apologists than any city in Israel and the Wall Street Journal is their favourite reading matter which is not surprising because it's sympathies lie with Israel - Welshmen is stupid enough to take as gospel everything that it say's. Don't take us for fools Welshmen and don't be so naïve.
Israel has one, if not "the" best propaganda set up in the world bar none. Almost without exception it's members have all attended The Joseph Goebbels College of Lies and Propaganda because every word that comes out of the mouths of Lt. Col Peter Lerner and that arch Liar, Regev is a blatant lie made to support the case for justifying the genocide of the Palestinians. Now we have this "Welshmen" who from the comments he makes has one motive, to lie, twist, distort and give spin to stories which appear to have come straight from that College in Tel Aviv. If I were an Israeli and my country was reviled and castigated throughout the world for being such an abomination of civilization, I would put out such stories as the Welshmen puts out, are they going to sit back and tell the truth to justify killing thousands of people including 250 young children and babes in arms. If I were found out for bombing schools and killing schoolchildren, of course I would lie through my teeth and say that arms were stored there. The comments of Welshmen have all the hallmarks of a contrived and lying miscellany of issues to support every lying statement of the Israelis, Readers will also notice that the comments contain Israeli names and sources that to say the least are highly suspect. As for the rest of the "guff" that he writes, human shields etc, well we can listen to that every day of the week whilst these atrocities continue. The people putting these comments out are Israelis who make the lie to fit their atrocity. New York is one of the cities which I think, contains more Israeli apologists than any city in Israel and the Wall Street Journal is their favourite reading matter which is not surprising because it's sympathies lie with Israel - Welshmen is stupid enough to take as gospel everything that it say's. Don't take us for fools Welshmen and don't be so naïve. Shropshirelad
  • Score: 4

10:24pm Wed 30 Jul 14

welshmen says...

shropshirelass, What Country is your home? what religion are you, are you a Jew or a Muslim?....
shropshirelass, What Country is your home? what religion are you, are you a Jew or a Muslim?.... welshmen
  • Score: -2

12:18am Thu 31 Jul 14

arvs69 says...

welshmen wrote:
shropshirelass, What Country is your home? what religion are you, are you a Jew or a Muslim?....
What are you Welshman, a Zionist or a Nazi?
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: shropshirelass, What Country is your home? what religion are you, are you a Jew or a Muslim?....[/p][/quote]What are you Welshman, a Zionist or a Nazi? arvs69
  • Score: 0
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