Left-back Femi Ilesanmi's 100 per cent vow

Femi Ilesanmi in pre-season friendly action for York City against Sheffield Wednesday at Bootham Crescent

Femi Ilesanmi in pre-season friendly action for York City against Sheffield Wednesday at Bootham Crescent

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FEMI Ilesanmi has insisted that being the only recognised left back on York City's books will not affect his performance levels.

With City boss Nigel Worthington having assembled a "streamlined" squad for the new SkyBet League Two season, Ilesanmi's position in the team is one without direct competition.

Worthington has stressed, however, that left-winger Anthony Straker could be pressed into a defensive role if needed and Ilesanmi does not believe he needs an orthodox rival for his place to prosper.

Highly-rated teenage full-back Jack Connors vied for Ilesanmi's starting spot at previous club Dagenham, eventually replacing his elder rival during the second half of last season.

But City's 23-year-old summer recruit argued: "I am self-motivated so, whether somebody is breathing down my neck or not, I will always put a 100 per cent shift in with everything I do.

"It's up to the gaffer who is in his squad and I will just continue to do what I do on the pitch.

Hopefully, the gaffer will be happy with that and won't want to bring anybody in."

Ilesanmi is the only City player to have been on the pitch for every minute of City's opening three pre-season friendlies and, after seeing his opportunities at Dagenham limited during 2014, he has welcomed game time at a stage of the year when many professionals are hoping to ease themselves back into action.

"I have most definitely benefited from playing all of the first three games," he admitted. "It has pushed me forward and can only make me stronger so, once the season kicks off, I will be able to get through 90 minutes without even thinking about it.

"If I am looking tired in any of the games, maybe the gaffer will notice and take me off but, for now, I am happy to keep playing 90 minutes. It's nice to be playing regularly again to get back in the swing of things, so parts of my game become natural again."

Following a 2-0 home defeat to Championship outfit Sheffield Wednesday, Ilesanmi was a member of the City back fours that kept consecutive clean sheets during their Scotland tour with a 4-0 romp at Raith followed by Saturday's 0-0 draw with St Johnstone.

On the latest outing, the ex-QPR trainee said: "First and foremost, on a positive note, it was good to keep a clean sheet. I think the team spirit and togetherness at the club is tremendous and it's only early days, so I think that can only get better.

"We missed a couple of chances that should have been put away but, at least, we are creating chances and, on another day, I guarantee we could have won 3-0 or 4-0."

Despite his old club spending last week in Spain, touring in pre-season has been a new experience for Ilesanmi, who believes he benefited from the week-long trip north of the border.

He added: "The tour did nothing but good for the team, especially for the new players. I now feel closer and more comfortable around my team-mates and I think that's showing on the pitch.

"I didn't really go on tour with Dagenham, although they have just come back from a few days in Torrevieja, so it looks like they waited for me to leave before doing something! But I don't mind that."

Ilesanmi has also been impressed by the noisy travelling army of City fans with 155 making it to St Johnstone after almost half that number made their voices heard at Raith in midweek.

"The fans in Scotland showed that they support the team and want the best for the club," the Southwark-born defender said. "To see them go all that way, especially in the difficult weather conditions over the weekend, was appreciated by me and all the players and staff.

"It did surprise me a little to see so many, but I do remember the great away support when I was at Dagenham."

Ilesanmi is now preparing to face beaten FA Cup finalists Hull City in a 7.30pm kick off tomorrow night when he could be pitted against international wingers Robert Snodgrass, of Scotland, and Egypt's Ahmed Elmohamady.

About that challenge, the ex-Ashford Town full back said: "It's good to play against Premier League sides and it will be a very good test to see how we fare, but we have just got to treat it as another pre-season game to get more fitness out of.

"We can't be fazed by the players they have got or the club they are. We have just got to go out and play our game and do what we do best."

Elsewhere, City's League Two rivals Accrington have made Wigan defender Adam Buxton their first summer signing, while Cheltenham have recruited centre-back Jack Deaman from Eastbourne.

Shrewsbury, meanwhile, have swooped for winger Andy Robinson and midfielder Jordan Clark after their respective releases from Tranmere and Barnsley.

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1:46pm Tue 22 Jul 14

tips says...

Great attitude from Femmi and i think it sums up the rest of the squad too.Team spirit can carry the club a long way this season .
COYR
Great attitude from Femmi and i think it sums up the rest of the squad too.Team spirit can carry the club a long way this season . COYR tips
  • Score: 11

1:58pm Tue 22 Jul 14

PhilTopping says...

Madness. An incredible gamble by the board.

What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work.

Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker.

Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November.

I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks.

I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.
Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part. PhilTopping
  • Score: -46

2:12pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Maltkiln says...

PhilTopping wrote:
Madness. An incredible gamble by the board.

What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work.

Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker.

Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November.

I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks.

I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.
... aren't you a bundle of joy & optimism ?
[quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.[/p][/quote]... aren't you a bundle of joy & optimism ? Maltkiln
  • Score: 17

2:40pm Tue 22 Jul 14

dbrs88 says...

PhilTopping wrote:
Madness. An incredible gamble by the board.

What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work.

Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker.

Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November.

I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks.

I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.
Would you rather sign 10+ unknowns from iceland/ireland just to warm the bench never getting near the first XI taking up valuable salary allowance?
[quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.[/p][/quote]Would you rather sign 10+ unknowns from iceland/ireland just to warm the bench never getting near the first XI taking up valuable salary allowance? dbrs88
  • Score: 26

2:57pm Tue 22 Jul 14

chrisyboy82 says...

PhilTopping wrote:
Madness. An incredible gamble by the board.

What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work.

Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker.

Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November.

I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks.

I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.
What an idiot. We shall come back to this post at the end of the season and see. Don't quite understand where the negativity in such comments comes from but clearly its a reflection on yourself and not where the club is going or what its trying to achieve.
[quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.[/p][/quote]What an idiot. We shall come back to this post at the end of the season and see. Don't quite understand where the negativity in such comments comes from but clearly its a reflection on yourself and not where the club is going or what its trying to achieve. chrisyboy82
  • Score: 22

3:21pm Tue 22 Jul 14

sixtyfourfive says...

PhilTopping wrote:
Madness. An incredible gamble by the board.

What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work.

Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker.

Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November.

I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks.

I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.
What an absolutely ridiculous post - an insult to the Manager and Board who have taken us forward so positively in 2014.
[quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.[/p][/quote]What an absolutely ridiculous post - an insult to the Manager and Board who have taken us forward so positively in 2014. sixtyfourfive
  • Score: 25

4:40pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Dave Ruddock says...

Hope he pays Council Tax , Top Rate .
Hope he pays Council Tax , Top Rate . Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 2

4:56pm Tue 22 Jul 14

THETELLEROFTALES says...

PhilTopping wrote:
Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.
Absolute madness!

That's quite a statement don't you think?

There is a lot of 'absolute madness' in pro-football.

For example...

40 million Euros for David Luis.

England players who on the world stage look like and play like donkeys...on anything between £100-300k per week!

The price of a season ticket at Arsenal.

Need I go on?

Always remember to keep things in perspective...it helps you to sleep at night.
[quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.[/p][/quote]Absolute madness! That's quite a statement don't you think? There is a lot of 'absolute madness' in pro-football. For example... 40 million Euros for David Luis. England players who on the world stage look like and play like donkeys...on anything between £100-300k per week! The price of a season ticket at Arsenal. Need I go on? Always remember to keep things in perspective...it helps you to sleep at night. THETELLEROFTALES
  • Score: 7

6:17pm Tue 22 Jul 14

pip007 says...

sixtyfourfive wrote:
PhilTopping wrote:
Madness. An incredible gamble by the board.

What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work.

Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker.

Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November.

I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks.

I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.
What an absolutely ridiculous post - an insult to the Manager and Board who have taken us forward so positively in 2014.
If everyone voiced the same opinion about everything there would be absolutely no point in having this message board. Discuss.
[quote][p][bold]sixtyfourfive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.[/p][/quote]What an absolutely ridiculous post - an insult to the Manager and Board who have taken us forward so positively in 2014.[/p][/quote]If everyone voiced the same opinion about everything there would be absolutely no point in having this message board. Discuss. pip007
  • Score: 7

6:45pm Tue 22 Jul 14

sixtyfourfive says...

pip007 wrote:
sixtyfourfive wrote:
PhilTopping wrote:
Madness. An incredible gamble by the board.

What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work.

Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker.

Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November.

I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks.

I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.
What an absolutely ridiculous post - an insult to the Manager and Board who have taken us forward so positively in 2014.
If everyone voiced the same opinion about everything there would be absolutely no point in having this message board. Discuss.
Don't really see the point you are trying to make - Topping's absurd post has drawn much deserved derision because we who are countering his ( in my view) ridiculous comments indeed have differing views. Discuss!
[quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sixtyfourfive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.[/p][/quote]What an absolutely ridiculous post - an insult to the Manager and Board who have taken us forward so positively in 2014.[/p][/quote]If everyone voiced the same opinion about everything there would be absolutely no point in having this message board. Discuss.[/p][/quote]Don't really see the point you are trying to make - Topping's absurd post has drawn much deserved derision because we who are countering his ( in my view) ridiculous comments indeed have differing views. Discuss! sixtyfourfive
  • Score: 3

7:07pm Tue 22 Jul 14

the-e-man says...

PhilTopping wrote:
Madness. An incredible gamble by the board.

What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work.

Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker.

Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November.

I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks.

I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.
An interesting post which has received a lot of reaction. Because of the apparent strength of your feelings I cannot decide whether you are serious or its just a wind up.
However, I have said before our success this season will depend a lot on suspensions and injuries so to a small extent I can see where you are coming from. However the players NW has signed, together with the exceptional signings he made towards the end of last season, means we are able to put out a very strong team capable of holding its own and more in this league. I am sure NW would like to be able to sign two quality players for each position but we live in a real world where his budget simply does not allow it. The alternative would have been to put together a larger squad of players with less strength and character and either struggle or just get by.
I think we have some very strong players and with a little bit of luck on the suspension/injury front will have a successful season.
[quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.[/p][/quote]An interesting post which has received a lot of reaction. Because of the apparent strength of your feelings I cannot decide whether you are serious or its just a wind up. However, I have said before our success this season will depend a lot on suspensions and injuries so to a small extent I can see where you are coming from. However the players NW has signed, together with the exceptional signings he made towards the end of last season, means we are able to put out a very strong team capable of holding its own and more in this league. I am sure NW would like to be able to sign two quality players for each position but we live in a real world where his budget simply does not allow it. The alternative would have been to put together a larger squad of players with less strength and character and either struggle or just get by. I think we have some very strong players and with a little bit of luck on the suspension/injury front will have a successful season. the-e-man
  • Score: 11

7:32pm Tue 22 Jul 14

born&breed says...

Phil Topping - don't rise to him - he's certainly not the icing on our cake - Nigel and the Board we'll prove him wrong
Phil Topping - don't rise to him - he's certainly not the icing on our cake - Nigel and the Board we'll prove him wrong born&breed
  • Score: 1

7:57pm Tue 22 Jul 14

OLD - HEAD says...

PhilTopping wrote:
Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.
Every single person who contributes onto this forum has a right to their opinion, even if you dont agree with what they say. Everybody who says anything negative about City immediately gets condemned because the majority of people only want to read praise. But that only defeats the object of this forum. We all want York City to do well in the coming season, but there will always be differences of opinion, thats football. I have never been a fan of friendlies, but our three friendlies so far have certainly created some talking points.
[quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.[/p][/quote]Every single person who contributes onto this forum has a right to their opinion, even if you dont agree with what they say. Everybody who says anything negative about City immediately gets condemned because the majority of people only want to read praise. But that only defeats the object of this forum. We all want York City to do well in the coming season, but there will always be differences of opinion, thats football. I have never been a fan of friendlies, but our three friendlies so far have certainly created some talking points. OLD - HEAD
  • Score: 13

8:49pm Tue 22 Jul 14

bill bailey says...

PhilTopping wrote:
Madness. An incredible gamble by the board.

What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work.

Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker.

Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November.

I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks.

I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.
I'm not going to kick the poster from here to eternity for what he has written,he's not the only guy that has been put through the ringer on here, but he is right many clubs use loan players as a safety net , not haphazard, He is also right about a scouting system, we now have to rely on agents ringing the manager and telling him he has a lad looking for a club, Also I was talking to a guy who was at Perth he said they had about 20 shots on goal, my answer to him was ( and I wrote on here previously) if they cant put at lease 3 of those in the net , its no
good having more shooting practice on the training ground they had that in the match, That's where it counts , Set pieces yes counts more inside the 18yd zone, shooting is instinctive ,
[quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.[/p][/quote]I'm not going to kick the poster from here to eternity for what he has written,he's not the only guy that has been put through the ringer on here, but he is right many clubs use loan players as a safety net , not haphazard, He is also right about a scouting system, we now have to rely on agents ringing the manager and telling him he has a lad looking for a club, Also I was talking to a guy who was at Perth he said they had about 20 shots on goal, my answer to him was ( and I wrote on here previously) if they cant put at lease 3 of those in the net , its no good having more shooting practice on the training ground they had that in the match, That's where it counts , Set pieces yes counts more inside the 18yd zone, shooting is instinctive , bill bailey
  • Score: -4

11:21am Wed 23 Jul 14

PhilTopping says...

Hey listen, I'm way too old to be a troll and I'm only conveying opinions that have built up over the past four or five months. At least I go to York matches, probably average about 90% home and away thru the season.

My point really is about strategy and complacency. This year's strategy has some serious risks. A big gang of new players on wage-heavy two year contracts means that if Nigel makes a hash of it the next manager is stuck with sub standard players on long contracts. We have blown a big chunk of our budget on a small number of players. We don't have much cover anywhere and there are restrictions on the loan market that mean we could end up having to play any number of players out of position just to get 11 men on the field.

We got lucky last year. Pope, Penn, McCombe and Lowe. All worked out brilliantly. But in my near 45 years of watching York, I don't recall any manager having such a purple patch of recruits TWICE in a career. Maybe, Nigel will do it again in the loan market. But what if he doesnt?

Nigel had a poor 6 months up to December 2013, then a tremendous 4 months from January 2014. He's PROBABLY a very very good manager, but he's not beyond reproach nor beyond criticism.

I hope with all my heart that I'm wrong but if I'm right then we're going to have real problems both this year and next.
Hey listen, I'm way too old to be a troll and I'm only conveying opinions that have built up over the past four or five months. At least I go to York matches, probably average about 90% home and away thru the season. My point really is about strategy and complacency. This year's strategy has some serious risks. A big gang of new players on wage-heavy two year contracts means that if Nigel makes a hash of it the next manager is stuck with sub standard players on long contracts. We have blown a big chunk of our budget on a small number of players. We don't have much cover anywhere and there are restrictions on the loan market that mean we could end up having to play any number of players out of position just to get 11 men on the field. We got lucky last year. Pope, Penn, McCombe and Lowe. All worked out brilliantly. But in my near 45 years of watching York, I don't recall any manager having such a purple patch of recruits TWICE in a career. Maybe, Nigel will do it again in the loan market. But what if he doesnt? Nigel had a poor 6 months up to December 2013, then a tremendous 4 months from January 2014. He's PROBABLY a very very good manager, but he's not beyond reproach nor beyond criticism. I hope with all my heart that I'm wrong but if I'm right then we're going to have real problems both this year and next. PhilTopping
  • Score: 0

1:34pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Tug job says...

I would be very interested to hear what the wages of the City players are and how these compare with what othr clubs are offering. It's very easy to make allegations in the guise of passing an opinion, but rather less easy to substantiate these allegations in the absence of any evidence of wages. Is the club "strategy" a gamble? Of course it is, just like the gamble the other 91 clubs are making - hoping they've attracted the right players at the right price to do a job for them. You can't write the team off on the basis of three pre-season friendlies any more than you can claim they're going to get promoted. Let's just wait and see.
I would be very interested to hear what the wages of the City players are and how these compare with what othr clubs are offering. It's very easy to make allegations in the guise of passing an opinion, but rather less easy to substantiate these allegations in the absence of any evidence of wages. Is the club "strategy" a gamble? Of course it is, just like the gamble the other 91 clubs are making - hoping they've attracted the right players at the right price to do a job for them. You can't write the team off on the basis of three pre-season friendlies any more than you can claim they're going to get promoted. Let's just wait and see. Tug job
  • Score: 3

2:28pm Wed 23 Jul 14

The Legend Of Keith says...

PhilTopping wrote:
Madness. An incredible gamble by the board.

What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work.

Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker.

Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November.

I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks.

I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.
This must be some sort of record. Writing off the season after two pre-season games and also maligning the hard work by board and management too!

Well done Sir, troll-tastic.
[quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: Madness. An incredible gamble by the board. What we've tried to do is attract proven football league players on relatively high salaries and on two year deals. We've done this because we have no conveyor belt of youth players coming through and no scouting system able to identify quality up and coming players from the lower leagues. Our safety net is the always haphazard loan system. It's not going to work. Straker is not back up for Femi. How can he be? Who would play on the left wing is Straker has dropped back into defence? We don't have a back up for Straker. Similar nonsense in virtually every position, apart from central defence and goalkeeper. The season is going to be a complete unknown, if we lose four or five first team players to injury and our many loanees don't cut the mustard we'll be relegation candidates by November. I travelled to Perth for the St Johnstone game and sat in the East Stand with friends. We were playing a third team with a mixture of youths, reserves and trialists. Against such shoddy opposition we were very, very, very ordinary. The scary thing for me was that this team was probably not far off the team we'll play against Tranmere, and that's prior to any potential injuries in the next couple of weeks. I sense an awful lot of complacency and I worry the rest of 2014 is going to be abysmal and in complete contrast to the earlier part.[/p][/quote]This must be some sort of record. Writing off the season after two pre-season games and also maligning the hard work by board and management too! Well done Sir, troll-tastic. The Legend Of Keith
  • Score: 1

2:33pm Wed 23 Jul 14

bill bailey says...

PhilTopping wrote:
Hey listen, I'm way too old to be a troll and I'm only conveying opinions that have built up over the past four or five months. At least I go to York matches, probably average about 90% home and away thru the season.

My point really is about strategy and complacency. This year's strategy has some serious risks. A big gang of new players on wage-heavy two year contracts means that if Nigel makes a hash of it the next manager is stuck with sub standard players on long contracts. We have blown a big chunk of our budget on a small number of players. We don't have much cover anywhere and there are restrictions on the loan market that mean we could end up having to play any number of players out of position just to get 11 men on the field.

We got lucky last year. Pope, Penn, McCombe and Lowe. All worked out brilliantly. But in my near 45 years of watching York, I don't recall any manager having such a purple patch of recruits TWICE in a career. Maybe, Nigel will do it again in the loan market. But what if he doesnt?

Nigel had a poor 6 months up to December 2013, then a tremendous 4 months from January 2014. He's PROBABLY a very very good manager, but he's not beyond reproach nor beyond criticism.

I hope with all my heart that I'm wrong but if I'm right then we're going to have real problems both this year and next.
Hey MR. I cant , and some of the others cant beat your 45 yrs watching City, you have a perfect right to air your views some of which give food for thought, Every manager anywhere survives on luck ,every player he signs is a risk ,a liability if your like, Unless you are privy to the wage bill and what type of contract they are on its impossible to make assertions , As far as the manager is concerned he is a Very good manager not probably, I think you have made some fair points but made them in an abrupt way,
[quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: Hey listen, I'm way too old to be a troll and I'm only conveying opinions that have built up over the past four or five months. At least I go to York matches, probably average about 90% home and away thru the season. My point really is about strategy and complacency. This year's strategy has some serious risks. A big gang of new players on wage-heavy two year contracts means that if Nigel makes a hash of it the next manager is stuck with sub standard players on long contracts. We have blown a big chunk of our budget on a small number of players. We don't have much cover anywhere and there are restrictions on the loan market that mean we could end up having to play any number of players out of position just to get 11 men on the field. We got lucky last year. Pope, Penn, McCombe and Lowe. All worked out brilliantly. But in my near 45 years of watching York, I don't recall any manager having such a purple patch of recruits TWICE in a career. Maybe, Nigel will do it again in the loan market. But what if he doesnt? Nigel had a poor 6 months up to December 2013, then a tremendous 4 months from January 2014. He's PROBABLY a very very good manager, but he's not beyond reproach nor beyond criticism. I hope with all my heart that I'm wrong but if I'm right then we're going to have real problems both this year and next.[/p][/quote]Hey MR. I cant , and some of the others cant beat your 45 yrs watching City, you have a perfect right to air your views some of which give food for thought, Every manager anywhere survives on luck ,every player he signs is a risk ,a liability if your like, Unless you are privy to the wage bill and what type of contract they are on its impossible to make assertions , As far as the manager is concerned he is a Very good manager not probably, I think you have made some fair points but made them in an abrupt way, bill bailey
  • Score: 1

1:29pm Thu 24 Jul 14

rogue84 says...

if 'Phil Topping' had really been at the game v St Johnstone you would confirm that it was purely our finishing that let us down. chances were created on numerous occasions and York winning 5-0 wouldn't have been flattering at all.
Femmi looks like an excellent player in my opinion. a lot more assured than McCoy and really liked to get forward with Straker to create chances down the left. got a feeling we'll get some joy from that flank over the course of the season.
if 'Phil Topping' had really been at the game v St Johnstone you would confirm that it was purely our finishing that let us down. chances were created on numerous occasions and York winning 5-0 wouldn't have been flattering at all. Femmi looks like an excellent player in my opinion. a lot more assured than McCoy and really liked to get forward with Straker to create chances down the left. got a feeling we'll get some joy from that flank over the course of the season. rogue84
  • Score: 0

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