York City miss out on Wembley as brave promotion bid ends with 0-0 draw at Fleetwood

York Press: York City winger Michael Coulson fires in a shot on target York City winger Michael Coulson fires in a shot on target

YORK City pushed Fleetwood Town all the way before seeing their Sky Bet League Two play-off bid end following a 0-0 draw on the Lancashire coast.

The cash-happy Cod Army booked their place in the Wembley final on bank holiday Monday but were given a real fright by the Minstermen, who left Highbury with their heads held high.

Ex-City hero Matty Blair’s first-leg goal proved decisive, however, as last night’s hosts clung on for a 1-0 aggregate triumph.

City kicked off with the side that finished Monday’s first leg with Ryan Bowman starting in attack and Michael Coulson on the right flank.

Ryan Brobbel dropped out and, due to injury, was not named on the bench with Sander Puri drafted in as a substitute.

Fleetwood made no changes to their first XI despite having holding midfielder Alan Goodall back from suspension.

Graham Alexander’s men had the first chance of the evening when Josh Morris exchanged passes with David Ball before lifting an eight-yard effort over Nick Pope’s crossbar.

Moments later, Russell Penn fired narrowly over for the Minstermen with a 12-yard half-volley after Keith Lowe had sprinted upfield to get on the end of a Coulson corner.

Pope made the first save of the night on eight minutes, gathering routinely following Conor McLaughlin’s hopeful 30-yard shot.

On-loan Preston striker Iain Hume’s well-struck rising shot then missed the target from 15 yards after Morris’ low left-wing delivery.

City, though, were more than matching their hosts, forcing a string of corners that unsettled home keeper Chris Maxwell.

Calvin Andrew and Adam Reed also combined well to create a 12-yard opening for Coulson, who blasted his shot straight at Maxwell with his effort parried to safety, The hard-working Andrew, meanwhile, headed over from a Ben Davies cross and Lowe also climbed highest in the Cod Army penalty box on 40 minutes and forced Maxwell to punch away under his own crossbar.

Fleetwood had not threatened since the quarter-hour mark but, in first-half stoppage time, Nathan Pond met Morris’ free kick from the left with his head and the ball bounced wide off fellow centre-back Mark Roberts’ shins.

Steven Schumacher also went on to lift an edge-of-the-box effort out of the ground before the interval.

Both sides made a positive start to the second period with Fleetwood having the earliest chances of the half as Antoni Sarcevic headed over at the near post from a Morris corner and McLaughlin’s hopelessly-ambitious 35-yard strike was comfortably gathered by Pope.

Morris also dragged a 20-yard chance wide before a brilliant save by Pope kept his side in the tie.

The on-loan Charlton keeper stretched out his long left arm to push Sarcevic’s well-struck low shot around his post after the ball had broken for the home midfielder in City’s penalty box.

Pond headed over from Morris’ consequent corner.

At the other end, City were playing with plenty of endeavour but Fleetwood, led brilliantly by skipper Pond, continued to defend resolutely with the visitors’ first shot of the half coming from 35 yards as Andrew’s ambitious drive whistled over.

On 83 minutes, Alexander sacrificed midfielder Sarcevic to bring on a third centre back in Ryan Cresswell as he looked to protect the slimmest of advantages.

City continued to press with Coulson blasting well over after referee Scott Duncan played advantage following an edge-of-the-box trip on substitute Ryan Jarvis.

A barnstorming finish then saw chances at both ends with teenage defender Tom Allan thrown on up front and Pope even urged forward for a later corner.

Charlie Taylor drove wide for the home team on 89 minutes, while Jarvis’ low 15 yard drive was caught by a relieved Maxwell before Pope, on the edge of his own penalty box, won a battle of wits as Morris broke clear one-on-one in the fourth minute of added-on time.

Seconds later, home supporters spilled on to the pitch as they celebrated their team reaching Wembley for the first time since 1985.

The Minstermen, meanwhile, can be proud of a second half of the season and one final performance that epitomised the spirit and character of Worthington’s team since the turn of the year.


Match facts

Fleetwood 0, York City 0

(Fleetwood win 1-0 on aggregate)

York City

Nick Pope 9, Lanre Oyebanjo 8, Keith Lowe 8, John McCombe 9, Ben Davies 8, Michael Coulson 7, Russell Penn 9, Adam Reed 7, Will Hayhurst 7, Calvin Andrew 7, Ryan Bowman 7

Substitutions: Ryan Jarvis (for Bowman, 69), Lewis Montrose (for Reed, 84), Tom Allan (for Hayhurst, 90). Not used: McGurk, Jarvis, Platt, Puri, Ingham.

Star man: Russell Penn - never shirked a challenge, led by example.

Fleetwood Town

Chris Maxwell, Conor McLaughlin, Mark Roberts, Nathan Pond, Charlie Taylor, Matty Blair, Steven Schumacher (Alan Goodall, 75), Antoni Sarcevic (Ryan Cresswell, 83), Josh Morris, Iain Hume (Jon Parkin, 64), David Ball. Subs not used: Stewart Murdoch, Gareth Evans, David Lucas, Stephen Jordan.

Referee: Scott Duncan (Northumberland).

Booked: McLaughlin 20, Roberts 28, Sarcevic 34, Hayhurst 66.

Sent off: None.

Attendance: 5,194 (1,056 City fans).

Shots on target: Town 3, City 3.

Shots off target: Town 7, City 4.

Corners: Town 5, City 9.

Fouls conceded: Town 8, City 9.

Offsides: Town 0, City 0.

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10:51pm Fri 16 May 14

valduggan says...

A very brave & gallant performance by the underdogs. We dominated most of the play, but as has often been the case we lacked a cutting edge & certainly didn't get any breaks. I was surprised & pleased that we pushed Fleetwood back from the very start. I believe that had we scored then it would have been a very close call. The manager & team should be very pleased at the turnaround since the New Year. Who would have expected to get so close to the PO final when we were played off the park by Chesterfield in early January. Our fans also did us proud with the Fleetwood fans only coming to life towards the end of the game. Now to start building a squad for next season & a real go @ automatic promotion.

A great effort from everyone @ York City for a great 2014.
A very brave & gallant performance by the underdogs. We dominated most of the play, but as has often been the case we lacked a cutting edge & certainly didn't get any breaks. I was surprised & pleased that we pushed Fleetwood back from the very start. I believe that had we scored then it would have been a very close call. The manager & team should be very pleased at the turnaround since the New Year. Who would have expected to get so close to the PO final when we were played off the park by Chesterfield in early January. Our fans also did us proud with the Fleetwood fans only coming to life towards the end of the game. Now to start building a squad for next season & a real go @ automatic promotion. A great effort from everyone @ York City for a great 2014. valduggan
  • Score: 34

10:58pm Fri 16 May 14

SelseyBill says...

Next season we can do it.Sounds like a good effort by the city team. The lack of goals has been a worry all season and in the end counts against us. How many of the current defence will stay for next season? We need to find at least two forward who will score regularly to be ready in case those injured just now are not ready for the start of the season. Well done to the whole club for getting so much further than almost anyone could imagine at Christmas. Roll on the next season.
Next season we can do it.Sounds like a good effort by the city team. The lack of goals has been a worry all season and in the end counts against us. How many of the current defence will stay for next season? We need to find at least two forward who will score regularly to be ready in case those injured just now are not ready for the start of the season. Well done to the whole club for getting so much further than almost anyone could imagine at Christmas. Roll on the next season. SelseyBill
  • Score: 7

11:12pm Fri 16 May 14

erniet says...

The point is that no-one could say that we didn't belong in the play-offs after that display. Apart from the lack of goals (which we already knew about) the performance was excellent with a special mention for Penn who was probably the best player on the field. We were certainly the better team on the night and I was proud of the players' level of effort and commitment. That reflects on the management team, and if we can keep the group together we can progress. Well done to all at the club
The point is that no-one could say that we didn't belong in the play-offs after that display. Apart from the lack of goals (which we already knew about) the performance was excellent with a special mention for Penn who was probably the best player on the field. We were certainly the better team on the night and I was proud of the players' level of effort and commitment. That reflects on the management team, and if we can keep the group together we can progress. Well done to all at the club erniet
  • Score: 20

11:34pm Fri 16 May 14

Dave 77 says...

Fantastic effort and the players did the club proud but ultimately we need a couple of quality attacking players to challenge next season
Fantastic effort and the players did the club proud but ultimately we need a couple of quality attacking players to challenge next season Dave 77
  • Score: 10

11:59pm Fri 16 May 14

23rdApril1966 says...

Just back home. Much improved performance from Monday where we were on the front foot from the off. No great surprise to members of this forum that ultimately our lack of goal threat and lack of quality with the final ball caught us out in the end.
Nobody could fault the effort and commitment, there was nothing between the two teams but not surprisingly we ran out of steam with 15-20 mins to go.
Support was superb, just hope all who attended on Monday will be back in August, now that would help.
Gutted that TY never got a run out at some stage following his retirement but match circumstances allowed no room for sentiment I guess.
All in all congrats to all on a much improved season. Some good fixtures to look forward to in Stevenage, Carlisle, Tranmere, Shrewsbury, Luton and one of Gateshead/Cambridge.

Long 10 months since that first friendly so time to recharge the batteries and go again come August.
Just back home. Much improved performance from Monday where we were on the front foot from the off. No great surprise to members of this forum that ultimately our lack of goal threat and lack of quality with the final ball caught us out in the end. Nobody could fault the effort and commitment, there was nothing between the two teams but not surprisingly we ran out of steam with 15-20 mins to go. Support was superb, just hope all who attended on Monday will be back in August, now that would help. Gutted that TY never got a run out at some stage following his retirement but match circumstances allowed no room for sentiment I guess. All in all congrats to all on a much improved season. Some good fixtures to look forward to in Stevenage, Carlisle, Tranmere, Shrewsbury, Luton and one of Gateshead/Cambridge. Long 10 months since that first friendly so time to recharge the batteries and go again come August. 23rdApril1966
  • Score: 2

12:24am Sat 17 May 14

dadster says...

Firstly well done to NW and all the players for a fantastic effort this season and ultimately we have massively overachieved. Thought we were the better team tonight and as others have said it was just our lack of quality with the final ball and cutting edge in and around the penalty area that cost us.

Special mention to Penn who was superb tonight IMO and was very unfortunate to be on the losing side.

However we can really look forward to next season with optimism and the works starts now in terms of recruiting the right quality in key areas. Main objectives for me should be to get Banjo and Coulson to sign new contracts and then to address the GK position, left back, creative midfielder and 2 or 3 attacking players who carry a goal threat. Easier said than done!
Firstly well done to NW and all the players for a fantastic effort this season and ultimately we have massively overachieved. Thought we were the better team tonight and as others have said it was just our lack of quality with the final ball and cutting edge in and around the penalty area that cost us. Special mention to Penn who was superb tonight IMO and was very unfortunate to be on the losing side. However we can really look forward to next season with optimism and the works starts now in terms of recruiting the right quality in key areas. Main objectives for me should be to get Banjo and Coulson to sign new contracts and then to address the GK position, left back, creative midfielder and 2 or 3 attacking players who carry a goal threat. Easier said than done! dadster
  • Score: 12

12:31am Sat 17 May 14

joejamestom says...

The lads gave it a right go only allowing Fwood into their stride for the last 5'min of the first half, Penn probably played his best game thus far & set a great example but utimately we huffed & puffed but could not blow their defence down. They had a good bench to call on too but given their ability to attract players like Matt, Cresswell & Blair with Cod cash its not surprising they are a good outfit with great strength in depth. Shame we couldn't score & take it to the wire but as many have commented no reliable goal threat available just got the feeling against teams with good defences no go, couldn't score in a brothel work to do for NW to take us from difficult to beat to an automatic promotion free scoring team. Still the current squad did us proud with the commitment & effort with support to match, hope Fwood manage a decent crowd for Wembley not so sure they will though. Thanks for the second half of the season a real turn around.
The lads gave it a right go only allowing Fwood into their stride for the last 5'min of the first half, Penn probably played his best game thus far & set a great example but utimately we huffed & puffed but could not blow their defence down. They had a good bench to call on too but given their ability to attract players like Matt, Cresswell & Blair with Cod cash its not surprising they are a good outfit with great strength in depth. Shame we couldn't score & take it to the wire but as many have commented no reliable goal threat available just got the feeling against teams with good defences no go, couldn't score in a brothel work to do for NW to take us from difficult to beat to an automatic promotion free scoring team. Still the current squad did us proud with the commitment & effort with support to match, hope Fwood manage a decent crowd for Wembley not so sure they will though. Thanks for the second half of the season a real turn around. joejamestom
  • Score: 2

1:25am Sat 17 May 14

You're Fired says...

Penn, McCombe and Lowe are all on deals for next season. As said above, for me, Banjo and Coulson would be number 1 priorities. Hopefully have Pope and Davies on season long loans again and then fill in the gaps from there.
Penn, McCombe and Lowe are all on deals for next season. As said above, for me, Banjo and Coulson would be number 1 priorities. Hopefully have Pope and Davies on season long loans again and then fill in the gaps from there. You're Fired
  • Score: 5

7:13am Sat 17 May 14

johnbyrneshair says...

A great performance - closing down and battling. Dead ball plays and crossing ( particularly Hayhurst) again weakness. Really missed Fletcher and Carson (thank you Portsmouth) as attacking forces. Still an unexpected fantastic second half of the season. Well done to NW, the squad and the McGills. Need to hold on to Coulson, Banjo, Davies and Pope (difficult when such an outstanding young keeper). And NW - must have attracted some attention by his turnaround. An interesting close season to come.
A great performance - closing down and battling. Dead ball plays and crossing ( particularly Hayhurst) again weakness. Really missed Fletcher and Carson (thank you Portsmouth) as attacking forces. Still an unexpected fantastic second half of the season. Well done to NW, the squad and the McGills. Need to hold on to Coulson, Banjo, Davies and Pope (difficult when such an outstanding young keeper). And NW - must have attracted some attention by his turnaround. An interesting close season to come. johnbyrneshair
  • Score: 7

7:35am Sat 17 May 14

duffy says...

You're Fired wrote:
Penn, McCombe and Lowe are all on deals for next season. As said above, for me, Banjo and Coulson would be number 1 priorities. Hopefully have Pope and Davies on season long loans again and then fill in the gaps from there.
Pretty much as many expected with just not enough quality in bar the defence and Penn in midfield, the fact we failed to score over the two legs tells its own story. You can't fault the players who gave everything and we again had half chances but we struggled again down the flanks with some wasted balls into the box and Penn again had to do the job of two players. We have the spine of next season team with 5/6 first choice 11 already in place. Sadly that's probably the last we will see of Oyebanjo and certainly Pope, I would hope we could get Davies back on loan but that won't be easy either.
[quote][p][bold]You're Fired[/bold] wrote: Penn, McCombe and Lowe are all on deals for next season. As said above, for me, Banjo and Coulson would be number 1 priorities. Hopefully have Pope and Davies on season long loans again and then fill in the gaps from there.[/p][/quote]Pretty much as many expected with just not enough quality in bar the defence and Penn in midfield, the fact we failed to score over the two legs tells its own story. You can't fault the players who gave everything and we again had half chances but we struggled again down the flanks with some wasted balls into the box and Penn again had to do the job of two players. We have the spine of next season team with 5/6 first choice 11 already in place. Sadly that's probably the last we will see of Oyebanjo and certainly Pope, I would hope we could get Davies back on loan but that won't be easy either. duffy
  • Score: 1

8:09am Sat 17 May 14

Don't beat about the bush says...

Are you people for real? Brave? best team? Absolute sterile performance over 2 legs - how many shots in target? Their keeper must had had the easiest 180 minutes of his life.

You are all deluded - absolutely no quality. I have been to watch 5 times this season and each time I cannot believe how poor they are, no shape no pattern no tactics - decent team in York could out pass them
Are you people for real? Brave? best team? Absolute sterile performance over 2 legs - how many shots in target? Their keeper must had had the easiest 180 minutes of his life. You are all deluded - absolutely no quality. I have been to watch 5 times this season and each time I cannot believe how poor they are, no shape no pattern no tactics - decent team in York could out pass them Don't beat about the bush
  • Score: -30

8:20am Sat 17 May 14

chrisyboy82 says...

Don't beat about the bush wrote:
Are you people for real? Brave? best team? Absolute sterile performance over 2 legs - how many shots in target? Their keeper must had had the easiest 180 minutes of his life.

You are all deluded - absolutely no quality. I have been to watch 5 times this season and each time I cannot believe how poor they are, no shape no pattern no tactics - decent team in York could out pass them
Well you've live up to your name there. Unfortunately it would appear you were watching a different second leg to anyone else and are quite clearly an idiot. Excellent effort and commitment from a team put together on a budget that played to its strengths.
[quote][p][bold]Don't beat about the bush[/bold] wrote: Are you people for real? Brave? best team? Absolute sterile performance over 2 legs - how many shots in target? Their keeper must had had the easiest 180 minutes of his life. You are all deluded - absolutely no quality. I have been to watch 5 times this season and each time I cannot believe how poor they are, no shape no pattern no tactics - decent team in York could out pass them[/p][/quote]Well you've live up to your name there. Unfortunately it would appear you were watching a different second leg to anyone else and are quite clearly an idiot. Excellent effort and commitment from a team put together on a budget that played to its strengths. chrisyboy82
  • Score: 17

8:23am Sat 17 May 14

duffy says...

Don't beat about the bush wrote:
Are you people for real? Brave? best team? Absolute sterile performance over 2 legs - how many shots in target? Their keeper must had had the easiest 180 minutes of his life.

You are all deluded - absolutely no quality. I have been to watch 5 times this season and each time I cannot believe how poor they are, no shape no pattern no tactics - decent team in York could out pass them
Troll alert.
[quote][p][bold]Don't beat about the bush[/bold] wrote: Are you people for real? Brave? best team? Absolute sterile performance over 2 legs - how many shots in target? Their keeper must had had the easiest 180 minutes of his life. You are all deluded - absolutely no quality. I have been to watch 5 times this season and each time I cannot believe how poor they are, no shape no pattern no tactics - decent team in York could out pass them[/p][/quote]Troll alert. duffy
  • Score: 11

8:27am Sat 17 May 14

Don't beat about the bush says...

Put together on a budget - all teams are! I am no troll - just plain honest truth - did they really look like scoring?
Put together on a budget - all teams are! I am no troll - just plain honest truth - did they really look like scoring? Don't beat about the bush
  • Score: -20

8:41am Sat 17 May 14

yorkandproud says...

Don't beat about the bush wrote:
Put together on a budget - all teams are! I am no troll - just plain honest truth - did they really look like scoring?
"I am no troll but" says it all . Your opinion is unwanted.
[quote][p][bold]Don't beat about the bush[/bold] wrote: Put together on a budget - all teams are! I am no troll - just plain honest truth - did they really look like scoring?[/p][/quote]"I am no troll but" says it all . Your opinion is unwanted. yorkandproud
  • Score: 5

9:07am Sat 17 May 14

Don't beat about the bush says...

And why isn't my opinion wanted? Because its the truth and you don't want your rosé tinted glasses stained? Surely another view allows debate? take a look at other social media sites and you will see what others opinions are - York have not scored more than 2 goals in a game on more than 1 occasion in the last 10 games - and last night backed up the facts.

They don't play football - compare York to Chesterfield - one of the games I went to, they had pace width, passing and movement - York had a ball into the channel.

Speaking to neutral fans who watched both games who live in York don't go to the games but wanted their home town to do well - they couldn't believe how poor they where.
And why isn't my opinion wanted? Because its the truth and you don't want your rosé tinted glasses stained? Surely another view allows debate? take a look at other social media sites and you will see what others opinions are - York have not scored more than 2 goals in a game on more than 1 occasion in the last 10 games - and last night backed up the facts. They don't play football - compare York to Chesterfield - one of the games I went to, they had pace width, passing and movement - York had a ball into the channel. Speaking to neutral fans who watched both games who live in York don't go to the games but wanted their home town to do well - they couldn't believe how poor they where. Don't beat about the bush
  • Score: -12

9:30am Sat 17 May 14

dadster says...

Don't beat about the bush wrote:
And why isn't my opinion wanted? Because its the truth and you don't want your rosé tinted glasses stained? Surely another view allows debate? take a look at other social media sites and you will see what others opinions are - York have not scored more than 2 goals in a game on more than 1 occasion in the last 10 games - and last night backed up the facts.

They don't play football - compare York to Chesterfield - one of the games I went to, they had pace width, passing and movement - York had a ball into the channel.

Speaking to neutral fans who watched both games who live in York don't go to the games but wanted their home town to do well - they couldn't believe how poor they where.
You simply can't compare York to Chesterfield due to the huge difference in budget which these days plays a big part in how successful a team is. Chesterfield were by far the best team I saw this season but there was very little to choose between the rest hence why we managed to get a play off position. Very few teams in L2 play football in the way I think you're referring to partly due to the fear of dropping out of the league and partly due to the lack of money to get the right quality.

I very much doubt anyone who has been to watch City regularly was expecting us to suddenly start playing great football in the playoffs and most of us expected exactly what we got which was a low scoring tight tie over the two games and it was likely that our lack of goals would mean we came up short. No shame in that.
[quote][p][bold]Don't beat about the bush[/bold] wrote: And why isn't my opinion wanted? Because its the truth and you don't want your rosé tinted glasses stained? Surely another view allows debate? take a look at other social media sites and you will see what others opinions are - York have not scored more than 2 goals in a game on more than 1 occasion in the last 10 games - and last night backed up the facts. They don't play football - compare York to Chesterfield - one of the games I went to, they had pace width, passing and movement - York had a ball into the channel. Speaking to neutral fans who watched both games who live in York don't go to the games but wanted their home town to do well - they couldn't believe how poor they where.[/p][/quote]You simply can't compare York to Chesterfield due to the huge difference in budget which these days plays a big part in how successful a team is. Chesterfield were by far the best team I saw this season but there was very little to choose between the rest hence why we managed to get a play off position. Very few teams in L2 play football in the way I think you're referring to partly due to the fear of dropping out of the league and partly due to the lack of money to get the right quality. I very much doubt anyone who has been to watch City regularly was expecting us to suddenly start playing great football in the playoffs and most of us expected exactly what we got which was a low scoring tight tie over the two games and it was likely that our lack of goals would mean we came up short. No shame in that. dadster
  • Score: 15

9:30am Sat 17 May 14

nr59 says...

Don't beat about the bush wrote:
And why isn't my opinion wanted? Because its the truth and you don't want your rosé tinted glasses stained? Surely another view allows debate? take a look at other social media sites and you will see what others opinions are - York have not scored more than 2 goals in a game on more than 1 occasion in the last 10 games - and last night backed up the facts.

They don't play football - compare York to Chesterfield - one of the games I went to, they had pace width, passing and movement - York had a ball into the channel.

Speaking to neutral fans who watched both games who live in York don't go to the games but wanted their home town to do well - they couldn't believe how poor they where.
Thats probably got a lot to do with our top scorer and Irish international winger both hobbling about on crutches since 22nd March.We've done unbelievably well since and it makes you wonder where we would be had those two been fully fit.
[quote][p][bold]Don't beat about the bush[/bold] wrote: And why isn't my opinion wanted? Because its the truth and you don't want your rosé tinted glasses stained? Surely another view allows debate? take a look at other social media sites and you will see what others opinions are - York have not scored more than 2 goals in a game on more than 1 occasion in the last 10 games - and last night backed up the facts. They don't play football - compare York to Chesterfield - one of the games I went to, they had pace width, passing and movement - York had a ball into the channel. Speaking to neutral fans who watched both games who live in York don't go to the games but wanted their home town to do well - they couldn't believe how poor they where.[/p][/quote]Thats probably got a lot to do with our top scorer and Irish international winger both hobbling about on crutches since 22nd March.We've done unbelievably well since and it makes you wonder where we would be had those two been fully fit. nr59
  • Score: 9

9:42am Sat 17 May 14

born&breed says...

'Don't beat about the bush'

Why give this 'knob head' time - ignore him, the more we respond the more c... he come out with - he not a true City fan, if he is, he's a disgrace.

Well done City - credit to the Board, Nigel Worthington and the team - a great journey you took us on this season.
'Don't beat about the bush' Why give this 'knob head' time - ignore him, the more we respond the more c... he come out with - he not a true City fan, if he is, he's a disgrace. Well done City - credit to the Board, Nigel Worthington and the team - a great journey you took us on this season. born&breed
  • Score: 10

9:44am Sat 17 May 14

Don't beat about the bush says...

Dadster - no shame at all - your points are valid - my opinion is based upon the fact that others seem to believe York played well and where unlucky - that just isn't the case - and it may be down to budget.

BUT YOrk players are not taught to hit the channel at an early age they are all decent players who can probably pass a ball - but are not encouraged to do - L2 players are not donkeys and can play football but don't - my understanding is that they have the players but the style doesn't allow them to.

People talk about budget and they have to cut their cloth with loan players - tell me this how many
YT players have been kept on in the past 10 years? Very very few so how much does the academy cost to produce no players?

If they took YT on the budget would be better or they could sell one to fund the budget
Dadster - no shame at all - your points are valid - my opinion is based upon the fact that others seem to believe York played well and where unlucky - that just isn't the case - and it may be down to budget. BUT YOrk players are not taught to hit the channel at an early age they are all decent players who can probably pass a ball - but are not encouraged to do - L2 players are not donkeys and can play football but don't - my understanding is that they have the players but the style doesn't allow them to. People talk about budget and they have to cut their cloth with loan players - tell me this how many YT players have been kept on in the past 10 years? Very very few so how much does the academy cost to produce no players? If they took YT on the budget would be better or they could sell one to fund the budget Don't beat about the bush
  • Score: -10

9:57am Sat 17 May 14

paintitred says...

Don't beat about the bush wrote:
Dadster - no shame at all - your points are valid - my opinion is based upon the fact that others seem to believe York played well and where unlucky - that just isn't the case - and it may be down to budget.

BUT YOrk players are not taught to hit the channel at an early age they are all decent players who can probably pass a ball - but are not encouraged to do - L2 players are not donkeys and can play football but don't - my understanding is that they have the players but the style doesn't allow them to.

People talk about budget and they have to cut their cloth with loan players - tell me this how many
YT players have been kept on in the past 10 years? Very very few so how much does the academy cost to produce no players?

If they took YT on the budget would be better or they could sell one to fund the budget
Bitter and twister parent of son who was told he wasn't good enough and not offered a contract by the club by any chance??
[quote][p][bold]Don't beat about the bush[/bold] wrote: Dadster - no shame at all - your points are valid - my opinion is based upon the fact that others seem to believe York played well and where unlucky - that just isn't the case - and it may be down to budget. BUT YOrk players are not taught to hit the channel at an early age they are all decent players who can probably pass a ball - but are not encouraged to do - L2 players are not donkeys and can play football but don't - my understanding is that they have the players but the style doesn't allow them to. People talk about budget and they have to cut their cloth with loan players - tell me this how many YT players have been kept on in the past 10 years? Very very few so how much does the academy cost to produce no players? If they took YT on the budget would be better or they could sell one to fund the budget[/p][/quote]Bitter and twister parent of son who was told he wasn't good enough and not offered a contract by the club by any chance?? paintitred
  • Score: 7

10:01am Sat 17 May 14

RooBeck says...

A great, fighting performance by us and if we had scored, then with our fantastic support and the energy in the side, we would have won through to Wembley. But, it was not to be and critical analysis would say it is because that over the two legs, we didn't quite have the speed and variation to get in behind or through that very stubborn(and good), Fleetwood back-line. Russ Penn gripped the midfield and set the example and tempo for the remainder of the side and was our MotM. NW will now identify the replacements/additio
ns for a real go at promotion next season and with the way our club is run, we must have a very good chance. Finally, thanks to the YCFC Board for the free travel to Fleetwood and to all the players of the 2013-14 campaign - a special thank-you and see you again in August!! COYR.
A great, fighting performance by us and if we had scored, then with our fantastic support and the energy in the side, we would have won through to Wembley. But, it was not to be and critical analysis would say it is because that over the two legs, we didn't quite have the speed and variation to get in behind or through that very stubborn(and good), Fleetwood back-line. Russ Penn gripped the midfield and set the example and tempo for the remainder of the side and was our MotM. NW will now identify the replacements/additio ns for a real go at promotion next season and with the way our club is run, we must have a very good chance. Finally, thanks to the YCFC Board for the free travel to Fleetwood and to all the players of the 2013-14 campaign - a special thank-you and see you again in August!! COYR. RooBeck
  • Score: 7

10:02am Sat 17 May 14

DavidBu says...

The season is over, but the final feeling is not sour. We were a credit to the club and the city last night, we fought all the way and turned it on in a really impressive manner. Fleetwood were never going to role over and they didn't give an inch. Had we been that little bit sharper in the first leg and had they not had that touch of luck with the goal, who knows.
Still desperately disappointed not to be going to Wembley and it's sad to be waving off Pope too.
The season is over, but the final feeling is not sour. We were a credit to the club and the city last night, we fought all the way and turned it on in a really impressive manner. Fleetwood were never going to role over and they didn't give an inch. Had we been that little bit sharper in the first leg and had they not had that touch of luck with the goal, who knows. Still desperately disappointed not to be going to Wembley and it's sad to be waving off Pope too. DavidBu
  • Score: 9

10:06am Sat 17 May 14

dadster says...

Don't beat about the bush wrote:
Dadster - no shame at all - your points are valid - my opinion is based upon the fact that others seem to believe York played well and where unlucky - that just isn't the case - and it may be down to budget.

BUT YOrk players are not taught to hit the channel at an early age they are all decent players who can probably pass a ball - but are not encouraged to do - L2 players are not donkeys and can play football but don't - my understanding is that they have the players but the style doesn't allow them to.

People talk about budget and they have to cut their cloth with loan players - tell me this how many
YT players have been kept on in the past 10 years? Very very few so how much does the academy cost to produce no players?

If they took YT on the budget would be better or they could sell one to fund the budget
Sign off the times I'm afraid regarding youth players. There are very few these days that come through a clubs youth set up and go on to play regularly for the first team. Most will have to drop back down the league pyramid before finding regular first team action due to the clamour for immediate success at most teams and the fear of relegation costing the club money. There is a whole separate debate on this.

I am one who has said I think we can and should play more attractive football but this season was always about consolidation and the fact we massively overachieved has been a bonus. The key for me will be how we approach next season in terms of the style of football we play.

Also as others have said losing arguably our 2 best attacking players for the run in was always going to have an impact.
[quote][p][bold]Don't beat about the bush[/bold] wrote: Dadster - no shame at all - your points are valid - my opinion is based upon the fact that others seem to believe York played well and where unlucky - that just isn't the case - and it may be down to budget. BUT YOrk players are not taught to hit the channel at an early age they are all decent players who can probably pass a ball - but are not encouraged to do - L2 players are not donkeys and can play football but don't - my understanding is that they have the players but the style doesn't allow them to. People talk about budget and they have to cut their cloth with loan players - tell me this how many YT players have been kept on in the past 10 years? Very very few so how much does the academy cost to produce no players? If they took YT on the budget would be better or they could sell one to fund the budget[/p][/quote]Sign off the times I'm afraid regarding youth players. There are very few these days that come through a clubs youth set up and go on to play regularly for the first team. Most will have to drop back down the league pyramid before finding regular first team action due to the clamour for immediate success at most teams and the fear of relegation costing the club money. There is a whole separate debate on this. I am one who has said I think we can and should play more attractive football but this season was always about consolidation and the fact we massively overachieved has been a bonus. The key for me will be how we approach next season in terms of the style of football we play. Also as others have said losing arguably our 2 best attacking players for the run in was always going to have an impact. dadster
  • Score: 5

10:19am Sat 17 May 14

tips says...

Thanks to all at York City for a truly remarkable season.The hard work starts now .As Northampton and others have found out in the past reaching the Play Offs does not guarantee the next season will automatically be successful.
The Chairman has already said the club have identified possible signings .
The retained list will be interesting and the comings and goings will be eagerly followed over the next few months.
Let's now draw breath and get ready for August and make a real push for Division 1 an ideal place to be in for the new Community Stadium.
Thanks to all at York City for a truly remarkable season.The hard work starts now .As Northampton and others have found out in the past reaching the Play Offs does not guarantee the next season will automatically be successful. The Chairman has already said the club have identified possible signings . The retained list will be interesting and the comings and goings will be eagerly followed over the next few months. Let's now draw breath and get ready for August and make a real push for Division 1 an ideal place to be in for the new Community Stadium. tips
  • Score: 3

10:27am Sat 17 May 14

Peppa07 says...

I watched the game on the tv. From what we could see FT football ground is a complete joke. Let this be a warning to us as we head towards a new stadium. We need a proper one.
For football's sake lets hope Southend or Burton beat the Chequebook Charleys with the worst stadium I've seen in years - practically got houses on the pitch, open corners, no depth and 5,000 capacity! League One? A joke.
I watched the game on the tv. From what we could see FT football ground is a complete joke. Let this be a warning to us as we head towards a new stadium. We need a proper one. For football's sake lets hope Southend or Burton beat the Chequebook Charleys with the worst stadium I've seen in years - practically got houses on the pitch, open corners, no depth and 5,000 capacity! League One? A joke. Peppa07
  • Score: 2

11:09am Sat 17 May 14

rupertbehr says...

A Goal ! ...... My Kingdom for a ..... Goal !
A Goal ! ...... My Kingdom for a ..... Goal ! rupertbehr
  • Score: 1

11:31am Sat 17 May 14

OLD - HEAD says...

I went to Fleetwood unconfident and very unsure if we would be able to compete with them on their home patch. However I left the ground really proud that we had at least given it a go. We didnt just get knocked out of the play-offs last night, our play-off chances were dealt a severe blow at Portsmouth, when we lost Fletcher and Carson to serious injuries. That took away our only two players with a natural flair for scoring goals. The best thing about last night was the outstanding display by Russell Penn, he proved to be a true leader on the pitch. City have now got to rebuild another squad around the likes of John McCombe, Keith Lowe, Russell Penn and Michael Coulson. All the loan players look likely to leave, also (like a previous poster has already said) could Lanre Oyebanjo. So there is going to be some tough recruiting ahead for the Manager. For I honestly believe that Division 2 will be an even tougher league next season.
I went to Fleetwood unconfident and very unsure if we would be able to compete with them on their home patch. However I left the ground really proud that we had at least given it a go. We didnt just get knocked out of the play-offs last night, our play-off chances were dealt a severe blow at Portsmouth, when we lost Fletcher and Carson to serious injuries. That took away our only two players with a natural flair for scoring goals. The best thing about last night was the outstanding display by Russell Penn, he proved to be a true leader on the pitch. City have now got to rebuild another squad around the likes of John McCombe, Keith Lowe, Russell Penn and Michael Coulson. All the loan players look likely to leave, also (like a previous poster has already said) could Lanre Oyebanjo. So there is going to be some tough recruiting ahead for the Manager. For I honestly believe that Division 2 will be an even tougher league next season. OLD - HEAD
  • Score: 11

2:54pm Sat 17 May 14

RooBeck says...

Peppa07 wrote:
I watched the game on the tv. From what we could see FT football ground is a complete joke. Let this be a warning to us as we head towards a new stadium. We need a proper one.
For football's sake lets hope Southend or Burton beat the Chequebook Charleys with the worst stadium I've seen in years - practically got houses on the pitch, open corners, no depth and 5,000 capacity! League One? A joke.
It was a mixture!! In parts it does appear old and contrived (the away end was poor and the older stand running along the far touchline, is actually built on the remains of an earlier, very old stand and which sat right next and almost on the back gardens of houses) and does look a bit shambolic!! Also, there didn't appear to be any physical segregation of fans in the main "arched" stand. Yes, all in all, an unusual ground and in parts, far too close to the playing area, as one of the assistant refs. found out when he went flying!! Next to the entrance of the Percy Ronson stand(away standing), was a social club that appeared an integral part of the Fleetwood ground but was separate and private and so for fans, no chance of a pre-match drink as people were turned away - members only lads, go to the other end and you'll get served there(Fleetwood), which we did and got turned away because we were away fans as they checked match tickets!! Confusing and not very hospitable! BUT, on the plus side - liked their electronic information screen and their state of the art, sufficiently wide, automatic reader turnstiles. Hope we have both these features at the new stadium, even if it means having the Ticket-office open pre-match!! Also, it was a very decent playing area, just a pity we couldn't find that elusive first goal because I'm certain we would have then gone on to have won the tie!! COYR.
[quote][p][bold]Peppa07[/bold] wrote: I watched the game on the tv. From what we could see FT football ground is a complete joke. Let this be a warning to us as we head towards a new stadium. We need a proper one. For football's sake lets hope Southend or Burton beat the Chequebook Charleys with the worst stadium I've seen in years - practically got houses on the pitch, open corners, no depth and 5,000 capacity! League One? A joke.[/p][/quote]It was a mixture!! In parts it does appear old and contrived (the away end was poor and the older stand running along the far touchline, is actually built on the remains of an earlier, very old stand and which sat right next and almost on the back gardens of houses) and does look a bit shambolic!! Also, there didn't appear to be any physical segregation of fans in the main "arched" stand. Yes, all in all, an unusual ground and in parts, far too close to the playing area, as one of the assistant refs. found out when he went flying!! Next to the entrance of the Percy Ronson stand(away standing), was a social club that appeared an integral part of the Fleetwood ground but was separate and private and so for fans, no chance of a pre-match drink as people were turned away - members only lads, go to the other end and you'll get served there(Fleetwood), which we did and got turned away because we were away fans as they checked match tickets!! Confusing and not very hospitable! BUT, on the plus side - liked their electronic information screen and their state of the art, sufficiently wide, automatic reader turnstiles. Hope we have both these features at the new stadium, even if it means having the Ticket-office open pre-match!! Also, it was a very decent playing area, just a pity we couldn't find that elusive first goal because I'm certain we would have then gone on to have won the tie!! COYR. RooBeck
  • Score: 1

6:52pm Sat 17 May 14

Don't beat about the bush says...

You would be still trying to score 24 hours later
You would be still trying to score 24 hours later Don't beat about the bush
  • Score: -11

8:39pm Sat 17 May 14

Realistic ycfc says...

Don't beat about the bush wrote:
You would be still trying to score 24 hours later
Unless your mum was about and then it is a very easy score
[quote][p][bold]Don't beat about the bush[/bold] wrote: You would be still trying to score 24 hours later[/p][/quote]Unless your mum was about and then it is a very easy score Realistic ycfc
  • Score: -1

9:47pm Sat 17 May 14

Budgie says...

no goals, no wonder Bowman and Andrews as strikers, Bowman not good enough needs off loading, Andrews the same unable to put the ball in the net. Coulson less effective out wide. Ditch Brobbel as well. Hope we get Pope back he is superb. Great season overall
no goals, no wonder Bowman and Andrews as strikers, Bowman not good enough needs off loading, Andrews the same unable to put the ball in the net. Coulson less effective out wide. Ditch Brobbel as well. Hope we get Pope back he is superb. Great season overall Budgie
  • Score: 1

7:55am Sun 18 May 14

Don't beat about the bush says...

Realistic FC - sorry dad
Realistic FC - sorry dad Don't beat about the bush
  • Score: -2

12:18pm Sun 18 May 14

DavidBu says...

RooBeck wrote:
Peppa07 wrote:
I watched the game on the tv. From what we could see FT football ground is a complete joke. Let this be a warning to us as we head towards a new stadium. We need a proper one.
For football's sake lets hope Southend or Burton beat the Chequebook Charleys with the worst stadium I've seen in years - practically got houses on the pitch, open corners, no depth and 5,000 capacity! League One? A joke.
It was a mixture!! In parts it does appear old and contrived (the away end was poor and the older stand running along the far touchline, is actually built on the remains of an earlier, very old stand and which sat right next and almost on the back gardens of houses) and does look a bit shambolic!! Also, there didn't appear to be any physical segregation of fans in the main "arched" stand. Yes, all in all, an unusual ground and in parts, far too close to the playing area, as one of the assistant refs. found out when he went flying!! Next to the entrance of the Percy Ronson stand(away standing), was a social club that appeared an integral part of the Fleetwood ground but was separate and private and so for fans, no chance of a pre-match drink as people were turned away - members only lads, go to the other end and you'll get served there(Fleetwood), which we did and got turned away because we were away fans as they checked match tickets!! Confusing and not very hospitable! BUT, on the plus side - liked their electronic information screen and their state of the art, sufficiently wide, automatic reader turnstiles. Hope we have both these features at the new stadium, even if it means having the Ticket-office open pre-match!! Also, it was a very decent playing area, just a pity we couldn't find that elusive first goal because I'm certain we would have then gone on to have won the tie!! COYR.
Talking about the Percy Ronson stand (away standing,) how come there were massive gaps and empty places there, if it was supposed to be a sell out for the away fans?
[quote][p][bold]RooBeck[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peppa07[/bold] wrote: I watched the game on the tv. From what we could see FT football ground is a complete joke. Let this be a warning to us as we head towards a new stadium. We need a proper one. For football's sake lets hope Southend or Burton beat the Chequebook Charleys with the worst stadium I've seen in years - practically got houses on the pitch, open corners, no depth and 5,000 capacity! League One? A joke.[/p][/quote]It was a mixture!! In parts it does appear old and contrived (the away end was poor and the older stand running along the far touchline, is actually built on the remains of an earlier, very old stand and which sat right next and almost on the back gardens of houses) and does look a bit shambolic!! Also, there didn't appear to be any physical segregation of fans in the main "arched" stand. Yes, all in all, an unusual ground and in parts, far too close to the playing area, as one of the assistant refs. found out when he went flying!! Next to the entrance of the Percy Ronson stand(away standing), was a social club that appeared an integral part of the Fleetwood ground but was separate and private and so for fans, no chance of a pre-match drink as people were turned away - members only lads, go to the other end and you'll get served there(Fleetwood), which we did and got turned away because we were away fans as they checked match tickets!! Confusing and not very hospitable! BUT, on the plus side - liked their electronic information screen and their state of the art, sufficiently wide, automatic reader turnstiles. Hope we have both these features at the new stadium, even if it means having the Ticket-office open pre-match!! Also, it was a very decent playing area, just a pity we couldn't find that elusive first goal because I'm certain we would have then gone on to have won the tie!! COYR.[/p][/quote]Talking about the Percy Ronson stand (away standing,) how come there were massive gaps and empty places there, if it was supposed to be a sell out for the away fans? DavidBu
  • Score: 0

5:30pm Sun 18 May 14

Phil, Leeds says...

Next season is going to be very tough again and we will do very well to match this season's finishing position especially as we are likely to lose those key loan players who served us so well. I would hope NW works as well on the creative side of things as he did sorting the defence out from January as to be honest we never really looked like scoring over those 2 legs against Fleetwood. Bowman has been a huge disappointment and if you play Andrew you need more of an instinctive striker alongside, hence things looked a bit better for the final few minutes when Jarvis came on and forced their keeper into a rare save and got hauled down on the edge of the box. Big error not playing Jarvis sooner though.
Next season is going to be very tough again and we will do very well to match this season's finishing position especially as we are likely to lose those key loan players who served us so well. I would hope NW works as well on the creative side of things as he did sorting the defence out from January as to be honest we never really looked like scoring over those 2 legs against Fleetwood. Bowman has been a huge disappointment and if you play Andrew you need more of an instinctive striker alongside, hence things looked a bit better for the final few minutes when Jarvis came on and forced their keeper into a rare save and got hauled down on the edge of the box. Big error not playing Jarvis sooner though. Phil, Leeds
  • Score: 0

6:00pm Sun 18 May 14

Yorkie41 says...

Phil, Leeds wrote:
Next season is going to be very tough again and we will do very well to match this season's finishing position especially as we are likely to lose those key loan players who served us so well. I would hope NW works as well on the creative side of things as he did sorting the defence out from January as to be honest we never really looked like scoring over those 2 legs against Fleetwood. Bowman has been a huge disappointment and if you play Andrew you need more of an instinctive striker alongside, hence things looked a bit better for the final few minutes when Jarvis came on and forced their keeper into a rare save and got hauled down on the edge of the box. Big error not playing Jarvis sooner though.
I don't see any reason why we should not do as well next season if we can pick up a few more points at home games.
[quote][p][bold]Phil, Leeds[/bold] wrote: Next season is going to be very tough again and we will do very well to match this season's finishing position especially as we are likely to lose those key loan players who served us so well. I would hope NW works as well on the creative side of things as he did sorting the defence out from January as to be honest we never really looked like scoring over those 2 legs against Fleetwood. Bowman has been a huge disappointment and if you play Andrew you need more of an instinctive striker alongside, hence things looked a bit better for the final few minutes when Jarvis came on and forced their keeper into a rare save and got hauled down on the edge of the box. Big error not playing Jarvis sooner though.[/p][/quote]I don't see any reason why we should not do as well next season if we can pick up a few more points at home games. Yorkie41
  • Score: 1

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