Minstermen lose and captain Smith leaves Crescent

York Press: City striker Ryan Bowman can only ruefully reflect  on the second-minute celebrations  of Chesterfield’s opening goal City striker Ryan Bowman can only ruefully reflect on the second-minute celebrations of Chesterfield’s opening goal

YORK City manager Nigel Worthington lamented a “lack of life” in his team following a one-sided 2-0 home defeat against Chesterfield.

The Minstermen got off to the worst possible start when David McGurk’s second-minute error gifted Eoin Doyle an early goal.

Impressive winger Gary Roberts went on to add a second before the break and the final outcome flattered City, who mustered just three shots all evening.

Delivering his verdict, a disappointed Worthington said: “You are looking to keep clean sheets and be solid but, two minutes into the game, we have gone a goal down and not through any good play by Chesterfield. Then, after that, we were second best all over the park.

“There was a lack of life, brightness or spark and that’s unusual. The second goal came from our corner and that’s not supposed to happen in football.

“We were never on the front foot and paid the price. You have to be bold but our quality of passing was worse than average and we did not press the ball well.

“We were second in every challenge as well and they won everything in the air and on the ground.

“This team and group have players have not become bad over night but you have to be prepared mentally and physically for every single game you play because, if you start sloppily, it can become like pushing water up a hill.”

Worthington added that second-half substitute Will Hayhurst was immune from any criticism, though, on his debut following his loan switch from Preston.

“The only shining light was young Hayhurst,” Worthington said. “He picked up the mantle when he came on and had a go, which is all you want from players.”

City skipper David McGurk, meanwhile, could be a doubt for Saturday’s trip to Fleetwood after hobbling out of the action late on.

“He came off with a twisted back so we will have to see how he is but, at least, we are covered in that area of the pitch,” the City boss reasoned.

 

Smith in City exit

YORK City club captain Chris Smith has left the club by mutual consent, writes Dave Flett.

The former Mansfield centre-back, right, has struggled to break into Nigel Worthington’s team in recent weeks despite being the lynchpin in last season’s fight against relegation.

He is now expected to sign for another side before the transfer window closes on Friday with Conference play-off hopefuls Alfreton Town believed to be interested.

Said Worthington said: “Rather than Chris not playing games and getting frustrated, it was agreed by all parties that it was best for him to move on. He played a big part in the final ten games of last season but he has found it a bit tougher this season and wasn’t helped by the injury he got.”

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11:03pm Tue 28 Jan 14

dadster says...

I know he's come in for a huge amount of criticism on this forum over the last few years some of which was justified and some harsh IMO but whatever you feel about Chris Smith he will be forever associated with a truly great achievement in 2012 and lifting 2 trophies at Wembley which is unlikely ever to happen to York City again. For that and his superb performances at the end of last season to help keep us up he should be fondly remembered.

I wish him all the best in his future career.
I know he's come in for a huge amount of criticism on this forum over the last few years some of which was justified and some harsh IMO but whatever you feel about Chris Smith he will be forever associated with a truly great achievement in 2012 and lifting 2 trophies at Wembley which is unlikely ever to happen to York City again. For that and his superb performances at the end of last season to help keep us up he should be fondly remembered. I wish him all the best in his future career. dadster

11:03pm Tue 28 Jan 14

23rdApril1966 says...

Well that's the end of my lucky jumper postings.
Tonight was abject in every sense. Listen Chesterfield were a class apart and we could have permed any 11 of our squad and it would have made no difference.
But NW's team selection was unfathomable. Lowe at right back, Banjo in midfield, Coulson dropped ahead of Carson? Jeez.
To my mind he's had three rolls of the dice this season and on the evidence of the last 3 games we haven't got it right still.
Please somebody tell me that the selection of Carson as MOM was just gallows humour? If anybody seriously thought that to be the case then Greavesie was right it really is a funny old game!
I'll start a competition - when were we last outclassed in a League game as we were tonight? I will start with a defeat at home to Derby County in the mid 80's when John Gregory was so much in control he could have set up a picnic table for himself.
Tonight really was that much of a humbling.
Well that's the end of my lucky jumper postings. Tonight was abject in every sense. Listen Chesterfield were a class apart and we could have permed any 11 of our squad and it would have made no difference. But NW's team selection was unfathomable. Lowe at right back, Banjo in midfield, Coulson dropped ahead of Carson? Jeez. To my mind he's had three rolls of the dice this season and on the evidence of the last 3 games we haven't got it right still. Please somebody tell me that the selection of Carson as MOM was just gallows humour? If anybody seriously thought that to be the case then Greavesie was right it really is a funny old game! I'll start a competition - when were we last outclassed in a League game as we were tonight? I will start with a defeat at home to Derby County in the mid 80's when John Gregory was so much in control he could have set up a picnic table for himself. Tonight really was that much of a humbling. 23rdApril1966

11:06pm Tue 28 Jan 14

YorkCityLuke says...

Worthington is a disgrace and he's turning us into the ugliest, most impotent side in the league. The section of the pop stand I was in were cheering when the ball actually reached the opposition penalty area - a grand total of 3 times in the whole first half. Chesterfield might have been a very good side- hard to say, because even a truly awful side would have walked all over us tonight. Penn and Lowe - 2 inspired signings there from NW, not good enough for Cheltenham but perfectly suitable for belting aimless balls up-front, missing easy headers, putting the ball into touch when under no pressure whatsoever etc. Then lets look at the substitutions: Oyebanjo and Bowman off first, two of the few players who were putting in a shift that was merely sub-par rather than utterly dreadful. Oh and dropping Ingham after 2 clean sheets and 3 wins! Brilliant man-management, and surely he's found the only keeper in the football league whose kicking is actually worse than Ingham. In truth I feel bad for Pope because neither goal was his fault and he's young and therefore easy to un-nerve. But I'll feel worse if this idiot manager gets us relegated. WORTHINGTON OUT.
Worthington is a disgrace and he's turning us into the ugliest, most impotent side in the league. The section of the pop stand I was in were cheering when the ball actually reached the opposition penalty area - a grand total of 3 times in the whole first half. Chesterfield might have been a very good side- hard to say, because even a truly awful side would have walked all over us tonight. Penn and Lowe - 2 inspired signings there from NW, not good enough for Cheltenham but perfectly suitable for belting aimless balls up-front, missing easy headers, putting the ball into touch when under no pressure whatsoever etc. Then lets look at the substitutions: Oyebanjo and Bowman off first, two of the few players who were putting in a shift that was merely sub-par rather than utterly dreadful. Oh and dropping Ingham after 2 clean sheets and 3 wins! Brilliant man-management, and surely he's found the only keeper in the football league whose kicking is actually worse than Ingham. In truth I feel bad for Pope because neither goal was his fault and he's young and therefore easy to un-nerve. But I'll feel worse if this idiot manager gets us relegated. WORTHINGTON OUT. YorkCityLuke

11:08pm Tue 28 Jan 14

YorkCityLuke says...

And it's sad that Chris Smith leaves on the same day as that performance, because he was a true clubman and a model professional who deserved better. All the best to him in the future. I'd hire him back as a manager at this point, can't be much worse.
And it's sad that Chris Smith leaves on the same day as that performance, because he was a true clubman and a model professional who deserved better. All the best to him in the future. I'd hire him back as a manager at this point, can't be much worse. YorkCityLuke

11:10pm Tue 28 Jan 14

dadster says...

23rdApril1966 wrote:
Well that's the end of my lucky jumper postings.
Tonight was abject in every sense. Listen Chesterfield were a class apart and we could have permed any 11 of our squad and it would have made no difference.
But NW's team selection was unfathomable. Lowe at right back, Banjo in midfield, Coulson dropped ahead of Carson? Jeez.
To my mind he's had three rolls of the dice this season and on the evidence of the last 3 games we haven't got it right still.
Please somebody tell me that the selection of Carson as MOM was just gallows humour? If anybody seriously thought that to be the case then Greavesie was right it really is a funny old game!
I'll start a competition - when were we last outclassed in a League game as we were tonight? I will start with a defeat at home to Derby County in the mid 80's when John Gregory was so much in control he could have set up a picnic table for himself.
Tonight really was that much of a humbling.
You're right we were comprehensively outclassed in every area of the pitch but as I mentioned on another post we failed to press them and allowed them far too much time on the ball which made it even easier for them.

I have no issues with getting beaten by a better team but we laid down and let them run us ragged. In the second half they didn't break sweat thankfully otherwise we could have been on the end of a real hammering.
[quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: Well that's the end of my lucky jumper postings. Tonight was abject in every sense. Listen Chesterfield were a class apart and we could have permed any 11 of our squad and it would have made no difference. But NW's team selection was unfathomable. Lowe at right back, Banjo in midfield, Coulson dropped ahead of Carson? Jeez. To my mind he's had three rolls of the dice this season and on the evidence of the last 3 games we haven't got it right still. Please somebody tell me that the selection of Carson as MOM was just gallows humour? If anybody seriously thought that to be the case then Greavesie was right it really is a funny old game! I'll start a competition - when were we last outclassed in a League game as we were tonight? I will start with a defeat at home to Derby County in the mid 80's when John Gregory was so much in control he could have set up a picnic table for himself. Tonight really was that much of a humbling.[/p][/quote]You're right we were comprehensively outclassed in every area of the pitch but as I mentioned on another post we failed to press them and allowed them far too much time on the ball which made it even easier for them. I have no issues with getting beaten by a better team but we laid down and let them run us ragged. In the second half they didn't break sweat thankfully otherwise we could have been on the end of a real hammering. dadster

11:22pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Mickey T says...

The wrong peson walked ut of the club. I don't know who NW feels he is kidding, but it certainly ain't me..
The wrong peson walked ut of the club. I don't know who NW feels he is kidding, but it certainly ain't me.. Mickey T

11:31pm Tue 28 Jan 14

dadster says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
Worthington is a disgrace and he's turning us into the ugliest, most impotent side in the league. The section of the pop stand I was in were cheering when the ball actually reached the opposition penalty area - a grand total of 3 times in the whole first half. Chesterfield might have been a very good side- hard to say, because even a truly awful side would have walked all over us tonight. Penn and Lowe - 2 inspired signings there from NW, not good enough for Cheltenham but perfectly suitable for belting aimless balls up-front, missing easy headers, putting the ball into touch when under no pressure whatsoever etc. Then lets look at the substitutions: Oyebanjo and Bowman off first, two of the few players who were putting in a shift that was merely sub-par rather than utterly dreadful. Oh and dropping Ingham after 2 clean sheets and 3 wins! Brilliant man-management, and surely he's found the only keeper in the football league whose kicking is actually worse than Ingham. In truth I feel bad for Pope because neither goal was his fault and he's young and therefore easy to un-nerve. But I'll feel worse if this idiot manager gets us relegated. WORTHINGTON OUT.
Fully understand your frustrations but whilst the jury is still out with Penn I think your criticism of Lowe is very harsh. Since he came in November we have looked much better defensively and he was far from our worst performer tonight.

We will have ups and downs for the rest of the season but ultimately I firmly believe we will be ok. NW isn't going to change his philosophy for getting results at this level and it is clear that a mid table finish is the height of the club's ambition this season.

His position will no doubt be reviewed in the summer to see if we need to change direction.
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: Worthington is a disgrace and he's turning us into the ugliest, most impotent side in the league. The section of the pop stand I was in were cheering when the ball actually reached the opposition penalty area - a grand total of 3 times in the whole first half. Chesterfield might have been a very good side- hard to say, because even a truly awful side would have walked all over us tonight. Penn and Lowe - 2 inspired signings there from NW, not good enough for Cheltenham but perfectly suitable for belting aimless balls up-front, missing easy headers, putting the ball into touch when under no pressure whatsoever etc. Then lets look at the substitutions: Oyebanjo and Bowman off first, two of the few players who were putting in a shift that was merely sub-par rather than utterly dreadful. Oh and dropping Ingham after 2 clean sheets and 3 wins! Brilliant man-management, and surely he's found the only keeper in the football league whose kicking is actually worse than Ingham. In truth I feel bad for Pope because neither goal was his fault and he's young and therefore easy to un-nerve. But I'll feel worse if this idiot manager gets us relegated. WORTHINGTON OUT.[/p][/quote]Fully understand your frustrations but whilst the jury is still out with Penn I think your criticism of Lowe is very harsh. Since he came in November we have looked much better defensively and he was far from our worst performer tonight. We will have ups and downs for the rest of the season but ultimately I firmly believe we will be ok. NW isn't going to change his philosophy for getting results at this level and it is clear that a mid table finish is the height of the club's ambition this season. His position will no doubt be reviewed in the summer to see if we need to change direction. dadster

11:32pm Tue 28 Jan 14

openallhours says...

An awful performance, and an even worse team selection. A right back playing in midfield, a decent centre back put to right back, balls hoofed up to an ineffective forward and no shots on goal - it was just like watching a Mills side/formation all over again! The only positive was... ?
Chesterfield are the best side in this division so tonight isn't a complete disaster. A lot will have been learned from this display, and I predict a mid-table finish at worst.
An awful performance, and an even worse team selection. A right back playing in midfield, a decent centre back put to right back, balls hoofed up to an ineffective forward and no shots on goal - it was just like watching a Mills side/formation all over again! The only positive was... ? Chesterfield are the best side in this division so tonight isn't a complete disaster. A lot will have been learned from this display, and I predict a mid-table finish at worst. openallhours

11:42pm Tue 28 Jan 14

openallhours says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
Worthington is a disgrace and he's turning us into the ugliest, most impotent side in the league. The section of the pop stand I was in were cheering when the ball actually reached the opposition penalty area - a grand total of 3 times in the whole first half. Chesterfield might have been a very good side- hard to say, because even a truly awful side would have walked all over us tonight. Penn and Lowe - 2 inspired signings there from NW, not good enough for Cheltenham but perfectly suitable for belting aimless balls up-front, missing easy headers, putting the ball into touch when under no pressure whatsoever etc. Then lets look at the substitutions: Oyebanjo and Bowman off first, two of the few players who were putting in a shift that was merely sub-par rather than utterly dreadful. Oh and dropping Ingham after 2 clean sheets and 3 wins! Brilliant man-management, and surely he's found the only keeper in the football league whose kicking is actually worse than Ingham. In truth I feel bad for Pope because neither goal was his fault and he's young and therefore easy to un-nerve. But I'll feel worse if this idiot manager gets us relegated. WORTHINGTON OUT.
I commented after the Hartlepool game that a loss tonight would see the 'sack Nigel brigade' all over this forum - your response to my post was, as usual, pretty hostile. Imagine my surprise to read your gem of an overview. 'yorkcityluke out!'
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: Worthington is a disgrace and he's turning us into the ugliest, most impotent side in the league. The section of the pop stand I was in were cheering when the ball actually reached the opposition penalty area - a grand total of 3 times in the whole first half. Chesterfield might have been a very good side- hard to say, because even a truly awful side would have walked all over us tonight. Penn and Lowe - 2 inspired signings there from NW, not good enough for Cheltenham but perfectly suitable for belting aimless balls up-front, missing easy headers, putting the ball into touch when under no pressure whatsoever etc. Then lets look at the substitutions: Oyebanjo and Bowman off first, two of the few players who were putting in a shift that was merely sub-par rather than utterly dreadful. Oh and dropping Ingham after 2 clean sheets and 3 wins! Brilliant man-management, and surely he's found the only keeper in the football league whose kicking is actually worse than Ingham. In truth I feel bad for Pope because neither goal was his fault and he's young and therefore easy to un-nerve. But I'll feel worse if this idiot manager gets us relegated. WORTHINGTON OUT.[/p][/quote]I commented after the Hartlepool game that a loss tonight would see the 'sack Nigel brigade' all over this forum - your response to my post was, as usual, pretty hostile. Imagine my surprise to read your gem of an overview. 'yorkcityluke out!' openallhours

11:47pm Tue 28 Jan 14

YorkCityLuke says...

openallhours wrote:
YorkCityLuke wrote:
Worthington is a disgrace and he's turning us into the ugliest, most impotent side in the league. The section of the pop stand I was in were cheering when the ball actually reached the opposition penalty area - a grand total of 3 times in the whole first half. Chesterfield might have been a very good side- hard to say, because even a truly awful side would have walked all over us tonight. Penn and Lowe - 2 inspired signings there from NW, not good enough for Cheltenham but perfectly suitable for belting aimless balls up-front, missing easy headers, putting the ball into touch when under no pressure whatsoever etc. Then lets look at the substitutions: Oyebanjo and Bowman off first, two of the few players who were putting in a shift that was merely sub-par rather than utterly dreadful. Oh and dropping Ingham after 2 clean sheets and 3 wins! Brilliant man-management, and surely he's found the only keeper in the football league whose kicking is actually worse than Ingham. In truth I feel bad for Pope because neither goal was his fault and he's young and therefore easy to un-nerve. But I'll feel worse if this idiot manager gets us relegated. WORTHINGTON OUT.
I commented after the Hartlepool game that a loss tonight would see the 'sack Nigel brigade' all over this forum - your response to my post was, as usual, pretty hostile. Imagine my surprise to read your gem of an overview. 'yorkcityluke out!'
Find a point, counter it with evidence. Seriously, find any way of defending the performance tonight and I'll concede to over-reacting. Does it really surprise you that the 'Nigel out' bridage (again, Nigel? Is he your mate or something? Try Worthington/ NW, sounds a little less sycophantic) speak up when he serves up tripe at £17 a gulp?
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: Worthington is a disgrace and he's turning us into the ugliest, most impotent side in the league. The section of the pop stand I was in were cheering when the ball actually reached the opposition penalty area - a grand total of 3 times in the whole first half. Chesterfield might have been a very good side- hard to say, because even a truly awful side would have walked all over us tonight. Penn and Lowe - 2 inspired signings there from NW, not good enough for Cheltenham but perfectly suitable for belting aimless balls up-front, missing easy headers, putting the ball into touch when under no pressure whatsoever etc. Then lets look at the substitutions: Oyebanjo and Bowman off first, two of the few players who were putting in a shift that was merely sub-par rather than utterly dreadful. Oh and dropping Ingham after 2 clean sheets and 3 wins! Brilliant man-management, and surely he's found the only keeper in the football league whose kicking is actually worse than Ingham. In truth I feel bad for Pope because neither goal was his fault and he's young and therefore easy to un-nerve. But I'll feel worse if this idiot manager gets us relegated. WORTHINGTON OUT.[/p][/quote]I commented after the Hartlepool game that a loss tonight would see the 'sack Nigel brigade' all over this forum - your response to my post was, as usual, pretty hostile. Imagine my surprise to read your gem of an overview. 'yorkcityluke out!'[/p][/quote]Find a point, counter it with evidence. Seriously, find any way of defending the performance tonight and I'll concede to over-reacting. Does it really surprise you that the 'Nigel out' bridage (again, Nigel? Is he your mate or something? Try Worthington/ NW, sounds a little less sycophantic) speak up when he serves up tripe at £17 a gulp? YorkCityLuke

11:57pm Tue 28 Jan 14

RooBeck says...

Outclassed and outperformed from start to finish by a very good Chesterfield side. We offered very little - one shot on goal in the first-half and one that went wide of the goal in the second-half, was all we could reply with. Questionable team selection didn't help, our midfield was non-existent and we were once again a disjointed unit. Fleetwood will be a big test on Saturday and we need a very different City side to turn-up to that match. COYR.
Outclassed and outperformed from start to finish by a very good Chesterfield side. We offered very little - one shot on goal in the first-half and one that went wide of the goal in the second-half, was all we could reply with. Questionable team selection didn't help, our midfield was non-existent and we were once again a disjointed unit. Fleetwood will be a big test on Saturday and we need a very different City side to turn-up to that match. COYR. RooBeck

11:59pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Peppa07 says...

Chesterfield were the best team I've seen in League 2. What matters about this is the contrast with NW's often implied view that only route one stuff is suitable for League 2. Rubbish. The better footballing sides are the ones that get promoted - Bradford, Rotherham, Port Vale, and now Chesterfield, probably Oxford. We're condemning ourselves to rubbish if we believe only hoofball wins football games. Team selection is a joke. Who in any sensible scheme of things would drop Coulson? He was only on the pitch five minutes and he straight away looked more of a fottballer than any other York player tonight. And why send Brobbel back? Why move Banjo after several excellent performances at right back? I wonder if it's really Berwick Kaler who's picking the team?
Chesterfield were the best team I've seen in League 2. What matters about this is the contrast with NW's often implied view that only route one stuff is suitable for League 2. Rubbish. The better footballing sides are the ones that get promoted - Bradford, Rotherham, Port Vale, and now Chesterfield, probably Oxford. We're condemning ourselves to rubbish if we believe only hoofball wins football games. Team selection is a joke. Who in any sensible scheme of things would drop Coulson? He was only on the pitch five minutes and he straight away looked more of a fottballer than any other York player tonight. And why send Brobbel back? Why move Banjo after several excellent performances at right back? I wonder if it's really Berwick Kaler who's picking the team? Peppa07

12:03am Wed 29 Jan 14

Anysport says...

WTF - why anyone can believe that after tonight NW's tactics or management style are the way forward is unfathomable - he is an eejit

This time last season after 29 matches GM and the "expendables" were on 37 points - 5 more than the Eejit has managed so far.

We may be 16th for now, but most of those below us have games in hand. On PPG we are 20th.
WTF - why anyone can believe that after tonight NW's tactics or management style are the way forward is unfathomable - he is an eejit This time last season after 29 matches GM and the "expendables" were on 37 points - 5 more than the Eejit has managed so far. We may be 16th for now, but most of those below us have games in hand. On PPG we are 20th. Anysport

12:43am Wed 29 Jan 14

cymruyorkie says...

Anysport wrote:
WTF - why anyone can believe that after tonight NW's tactics or management style are the way forward is unfathomable - he is an eejit

This time last season after 29 matches GM and the "expendablesNot 23rd or 24th then? But fully agree..not for the first time this season has NW set up not to lose and LOST....surely a manager of his supposed calibre/experience would have learnt from his mistakes by now?? Losing when trying to win is acceptable.but to lose when when trying not to?? FFS!! Surely the time has come for Mr Cresswell and Mr Greening to be blooded in management.
[quote][p][bold]Anysport[/bold] wrote: WTF - why anyone can believe that after tonight NW's tactics or management style are the way forward is unfathomable - he is an eejit This time last season after 29 matches GM and the "expendablesNot 23rd or 24th then? But fully agree..not for the first time this season has NW set up not to lose and LOST....surely a manager of his supposed calibre/experience would have learnt from his mistakes by now?? Losing when trying to win is acceptable.but to lose when when trying not to?? FFS!! Surely the time has come for Mr Cresswell and Mr Greening to be blooded in management. cymruyorkie

12:46am Wed 29 Jan 14

cymruyorkie says...

Not 23rd or 24th then? But fully agree..not for the first time this season has NW set up not to lose and LOST....surely a manager of his supposed calibre/experience would have learnt from his mistakes by now?? Losing when trying to win is acceptable.but to lose when when trying not to?? FFS!! Surely the time has come for Mr Cresswell and Mr Greening to be blooded in management.
Not 23rd or 24th then? But fully agree..not for the first time this season has NW set up not to lose and LOST....surely a manager of his supposed calibre/experience would have learnt from his mistakes by now?? Losing when trying to win is acceptable.but to lose when when trying not to?? FFS!! Surely the time has come for Mr Cresswell and Mr Greening to be blooded in management. cymruyorkie

1:02am Wed 29 Jan 14

Mickey T says...

We can now look forward with conidence to played 30 got 32 points at 4.55pm this coming Saturday.
We can now look forward with conidence to played 30 got 32 points at 4.55pm this coming Saturday. Mickey T

1:17am Wed 29 Jan 14

Tamworth 2 return says...

Poor team selection, seems to me he wanted to include McCombe to give us half a chance of getting a goal from a corner or set piece but couldn't make a decision on who to leave out between TY and Lowe, therefore we got all three.
Would have been better to stick him up front, call him Helliwell and leave the back four well alone.

Got to say that I really feel sorry for my old mate Jason, can only imagine how he must be feeling after witnessing that performance. I don't think anyone can argue that the board have has failed to provide financial backing to Worthington over the last few weeks in terms of the calibre of players we have signed.

The like of Penn, Lowe and McCombe don't come cheap and all on long 2.5 year contracts. Added to this we must have spent a small fortune paying up other contracts for the likes of Smith & Clay

Worthington was talking negative before a ball was kicked tonight in terms of Chesterfields spending power, what he should be saying is " I have a super chairman at York City who has backed me financially from day one, he has recently allowed me to strengthen my team and I now believe I have a team capable of competing with the best teams in this league.

Or perhaps, "If I can't avoid another relegation battle for YCFC after all the backing I have had, I will fall on my sword and not expect to be financially compensated for the rolling contract I have with the club"
Poor team selection, seems to me he wanted to include McCombe to give us half a chance of getting a goal from a corner or set piece but couldn't make a decision on who to leave out between TY and Lowe, therefore we got all three. Would have been better to stick him up front, call him Helliwell and leave the back four well alone. Got to say that I really feel sorry for my old mate Jason, can only imagine how he must be feeling after witnessing that performance. I don't think anyone can argue that the board have has failed to provide financial backing to Worthington over the last few weeks in terms of the calibre of players we have signed. The like of Penn, Lowe and McCombe don't come cheap and all on long 2.5 year contracts. Added to this we must have spent a small fortune paying up other contracts for the likes of Smith & Clay Worthington was talking negative before a ball was kicked tonight in terms of Chesterfields spending power, what he should be saying is " I have a super chairman at York City who has backed me financially from day one, he has recently allowed me to strengthen my team and I now believe I have a team capable of competing with the best teams in this league. Or perhaps, "If I can't avoid another relegation battle for YCFC after all the backing I have had, I will fall on my sword and not expect to be financially compensated for the rolling contract I have with the club" Tamworth 2 return

1:25am Wed 29 Jan 14

sixtyfourfive says...

Tonight reminded me of dark days in seasons past with such performers as Kevin Hulme and Mark Sertori ie lumbering slow coaches playing hoofball.It also re-enforced my oft stated view that Worthington ended up here because no other club wanted him - his methods and tactics are from another age. Chesterfield were a good side but we made them look like. Barcelona (you were right Old Head!). Why tinker with the back four which had been looking solid? Since winning 3 on the bounce he firstly unfairly and wrongly in my view dropped Ingham and we have not won since - also effect on team morale? Pope is not progress. Lowe is no full back and early days I know but perhaps the Cheltenham and Mansfield forums were right about Penn and MCcombe - one past his sell by and other too slow. We have them both on 21/2 year contracts. Read was poor and worryingly Carson who I really rated gets worse by the game.Why was Coulson dropped and Mcgurk subbed (beginning of end to ease MCcombe in?) Banjo also subbed, Smith leaves - is Worthington trying to flush out the last of the old/Mills brigade? Worried for rest of season.
Tonight reminded me of dark days in seasons past with such performers as Kevin Hulme and Mark Sertori ie lumbering slow coaches playing hoofball.It also re-enforced my oft stated view that Worthington ended up here because no other club wanted him - his methods and tactics are from another age. Chesterfield were a good side but we made them look like. Barcelona (you were right Old Head!). Why tinker with the back four which had been looking solid? Since winning 3 on the bounce he firstly unfairly and wrongly in my view dropped Ingham and we have not won since - also effect on team morale? Pope is not progress. Lowe is no full back and early days I know but perhaps the Cheltenham and Mansfield forums were right about Penn and MCcombe - one past his sell by and other too slow. We have them both on 21/2 year contracts. Read was poor and worryingly Carson who I really rated gets worse by the game.Why was Coulson dropped and Mcgurk subbed (beginning of end to ease MCcombe in?) Banjo also subbed, Smith leaves - is Worthington trying to flush out the last of the old/Mills brigade? Worried for rest of season. sixtyfourfive

1:28am Wed 29 Jan 14

Anysport says...

cymruyorkie wrote:
Not 23rd or 24th then? But fully agree..not for the first time this season has NW set up not to lose and LOST....surely a manager of his supposed calibre/experience would have learnt from his mistakes by now?? Losing when trying to win is acceptable.but to lose when when trying not to?? FFS!! Surely the time has come for Mr Cresswell and Mr Greening to be blooded in management.
Everyone has an opinion, but its a game measured in results & the numbers of success. Points Per Game (PPG) or % points give a good indication of our true league position:

http://www.soccersta
ts.com/latest.asp?le
ague=england4

Last season Barnet went down with 1.11 PPG & 37.0%
[quote][p][bold]cymruyorkie[/bold] wrote: Not 23rd or 24th then? But fully agree..not for the first time this season has NW set up not to lose and LOST....surely a manager of his supposed calibre/experience would have learnt from his mistakes by now?? Losing when trying to win is acceptable.but to lose when when trying not to?? FFS!! Surely the time has come for Mr Cresswell and Mr Greening to be blooded in management.[/p][/quote]Everyone has an opinion, but its a game measured in results & the numbers of success. Points Per Game (PPG) or % points give a good indication of our true league position: http://www.soccersta ts.com/latest.asp?le ague=england4 Last season Barnet went down with 1.11 PPG & 37.0% Anysport

8:01am Wed 29 Jan 14

duffy says...

I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.
I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night. duffy

8:42am Wed 29 Jan 14

23rdApril1966 says...

duffy wrote:
I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.
Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you.
The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire.
And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh.
I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back!
Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of.
This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters.
I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.[/p][/quote]Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire. 23rdApril1966

8:49am Wed 29 Jan 14

joeya96YCFC says...

Peppa07 wrote:
Chesterfield were the best team I've seen in League 2. What matters about this is the contrast with NW's often implied view that only route one stuff is suitable for League 2. Rubbish. The better footballing sides are the ones that get promoted - Bradford, Rotherham, Port Vale, and now Chesterfield, probably Oxford. We're condemning ourselves to rubbish if we believe only hoofball wins football games. Team selection is a joke. Who in any sensible scheme of things would drop Coulson? He was only on the pitch five minutes and he straight away looked more of a fottballer than any other York player tonight. And why send Brobbel back? Why move Banjo after several excellent performances at right back? I wonder if it's really Berwick Kaler who's picking the team?
Bradford a good footballing side are you mad. I think worthington dropped coulson because you wouldn't even knew that he played on Saturday he was non existant.
[quote][p][bold]Peppa07[/bold] wrote: Chesterfield were the best team I've seen in League 2. What matters about this is the contrast with NW's often implied view that only route one stuff is suitable for League 2. Rubbish. The better footballing sides are the ones that get promoted - Bradford, Rotherham, Port Vale, and now Chesterfield, probably Oxford. We're condemning ourselves to rubbish if we believe only hoofball wins football games. Team selection is a joke. Who in any sensible scheme of things would drop Coulson? He was only on the pitch five minutes and he straight away looked more of a fottballer than any other York player tonight. And why send Brobbel back? Why move Banjo after several excellent performances at right back? I wonder if it's really Berwick Kaler who's picking the team?[/p][/quote]Bradford a good footballing side are you mad. I think worthington dropped coulson because you wouldn't even knew that he played on Saturday he was non existant. joeya96YCFC

9:01am Wed 29 Jan 14

RooBeck says...

Should he read these threads, can I add my thanks to Chris Smith for his time and service with City (I forgot to mention it in my earlier post, as I was too focussed on the dross that I had just seen last-night!) Though he at times divided opinion amongst the fans, his heart was with York City FC and will always be remembered for that pass (with his back to goal), that Ashley Chambers "buried" for our equaliser against Luton on the 20th. May, 2012 & let's not forget, he was the League2 Player of the Month for April, 2013 and made certain we remained in the Football League with the winner at Dagenham on the last day of the season. Good-luck in your future career, Chris.
Should he read these threads, can I add my thanks to Chris Smith for his time and service with City (I forgot to mention it in my earlier post, as I was too focussed on the dross that I had just seen last-night!) Though he at times divided opinion amongst the fans, his heart was with York City FC and will always be remembered for that pass (with his back to goal), that Ashley Chambers "buried" for our equaliser against Luton on the 20th. May, 2012 & let's not forget, he was the League2 Player of the Month for April, 2013 and made certain we remained in the Football League with the winner at Dagenham on the last day of the season. Good-luck in your future career, Chris. RooBeck

9:15am Wed 29 Jan 14

Peppa07 says...

OK sorry - not Bradford!! Nor did I see the Hartlepool game. I was thinking last home games - he was our best player against Bristol.
OK sorry - not Bradford!! Nor did I see the Hartlepool game. I was thinking last home games - he was our best player against Bristol. Peppa07

9:38am Wed 29 Jan 14

Fat Harry says...

After being gung-ho yesterday afternoon, I'm thoroughly demoralised by last night's gutless performance, and sickened once again by rudeness and disorganisation on the non-playing side.

There are certain people at Bootham Crescent who should be having a long hard look at themselves this morning.

I'm having a long hard look at my bank statement and wondering how many more times this season I'll be coughing up £17 of hard-earned cash to see poor football, attempt to use toilets where blown lightbulbs have not been replaced, and be treated with disdain by club staff who clearly think football supporters are beneath contempt.
After being gung-ho yesterday afternoon, I'm thoroughly demoralised by last night's gutless performance, and sickened once again by rudeness and disorganisation on the non-playing side. There are certain people at Bootham Crescent who should be having a long hard look at themselves this morning. I'm having a long hard look at my bank statement and wondering how many more times this season I'll be coughing up £17 of hard-earned cash to see poor football, attempt to use toilets where blown lightbulbs have not been replaced, and be treated with disdain by club staff who clearly think football supporters are beneath contempt. Fat Harry

9:57am Wed 29 Jan 14

duffy says...

23rdApril1966 wrote:
duffy wrote:
I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.
Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you.
The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire.
And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh.
I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back!
Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of.
This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters.
I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.
No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.
[quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.[/p][/quote]Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.[/p][/quote]No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case. duffy

10:08am Wed 29 Jan 14

Robert Davro says...

I knew we would be beaten before the game so it wasn't much of a surprise. Neither was Smithy walking out. Ingham will be next.
I knew we would be beaten before the game so it wasn't much of a surprise. Neither was Smithy walking out. Ingham will be next. Robert Davro

10:17am Wed 29 Jan 14

Bigduggsy says...

Just a small point in favour of the selection - Lowe was seen at Cheltenham as a right back who could also play centre back. Having said that, no-one anywhere ever has seen Banjo as other than a right back. And a good one at that. If it ain't broke don't fix it....
Just a small point in favour of the selection - Lowe was seen at Cheltenham as a right back who could also play centre back. Having said that, no-one anywhere ever has seen Banjo as other than a right back. And a good one at that. If it ain't broke don't fix it.... Bigduggsy

10:44am Wed 29 Jan 14

OLD - HEAD says...

Well where do I start? - First of all best wishes to Chris Smith, he still has a lot to offer. Chris was often a target for abuse from a lot of people on this forum, but he was probably Gary Mills most influential signing. We were going nowhere without a leader on the pitch until Chris arrived. Chris made mistakes (who doesnt) but he was a talisman in our progress from the non-league widerness. Leading by example in defence, and chipping in with some vital goals when needed. Every genuine York City fan will want to wish Chris well and thank him for what he has done for our club. Back to last night now, Oh dear!. I didnt honestly expect City to beat Chesterfield but I did expect a bit of effort from them. Negative team selection and tactics were also expected for I knew that NW would try to put up the shutters and play for point. But the whole match was a disaster with City just ballooning the ball anywhere. How anybody managed to pick a man of the match for City, beggars belief. The naming of Josh Carson brought laughter from the Longhurst Stand. I said many weeks ago that Nigel Worthington is tactically naive and he is producing some of the most boring football that I have ever seen in sixty years of supporting York City. Sorry Nigel but I saw nothing last night to alter my opinion.
Well where do I start? - First of all best wishes to Chris Smith, he still has a lot to offer. Chris was often a target for abuse from a lot of people on this forum, but he was probably Gary Mills most influential signing. We were going nowhere without a leader on the pitch until Chris arrived. Chris made mistakes (who doesnt) but he was a talisman in our progress from the non-league widerness. Leading by example in defence, and chipping in with some vital goals when needed. Every genuine York City fan will want to wish Chris well and thank him for what he has done for our club. Back to last night now, Oh dear!. I didnt honestly expect City to beat Chesterfield but I did expect a bit of effort from them. Negative team selection and tactics were also expected for I knew that NW would try to put up the shutters and play for point. But the whole match was a disaster with City just ballooning the ball anywhere. How anybody managed to pick a man of the match for City, beggars belief. The naming of Josh Carson brought laughter from the Longhurst Stand. I said many weeks ago that Nigel Worthington is tactically naive and he is producing some of the most boring football that I have ever seen in sixty years of supporting York City. Sorry Nigel but I saw nothing last night to alter my opinion. OLD - HEAD

10:59am Wed 29 Jan 14

sixtyfourfive says...

joeya96YCFC wrote:
Peppa07 wrote:
Chesterfield were the best team I've seen in League 2. What matters about this is the contrast with NW's often implied view that only route one stuff is suitable for League 2. Rubbish. The better footballing sides are the ones that get promoted - Bradford, Rotherham, Port Vale, and now Chesterfield, probably Oxford. We're condemning ourselves to rubbish if we believe only hoofball wins football games. Team selection is a joke. Who in any sensible scheme of things would drop Coulson? He was only on the pitch five minutes and he straight away looked more of a fottballer than any other York player tonight. And why send Brobbel back? Why move Banjo after several excellent performances at right back? I wonder if it's really Berwick Kaler who's picking the team?
Bradford a good footballing side are you mad. I think worthington dropped coulson because you wouldn't even knew that he played on Saturday he was non existant.
I know it's history but Coulson in my view actually started very brightly at Hartlepool before fading into the second half. He has however been one of our brighter performers of late - certainly brighter than Carson who gets worse by the game (has Worthington instructed him to curb some of the flair I wonder?) - and did not in my opinion deserve to be left out yesterday.As another observer commented it is difficult to warm to Worthington and his style of football - I have tried I promise! eg trying to convince myself we are "more solid". One of my sons - an avid supporter - is now refusing to attend any future games whilst this hoofball is served up and that should be an increasing worry for the club - this manager is increasingly alienating fans with his antiquated, dour and negative style - compounded by baffling team selections.If it were getting results I could maybe just stomach it, but, and that is the greatest concern it is not and we are actually in a worse position - points per game - than last season under Mills.Worthington must have been perilously close to the sack around the New Year period (Perversely Ingham's saves v Morecambe probably saved him - what gratitude!) and loathe as I am to say it , it might have been better if he hadn't hit lucky again and been allowed to possibly fritter away funds on players who are yet to convince their worth on such long contracts.Very worrying times and I feel sorry for the Board who have been very pro-active.
[quote][p][bold]joeya96YCFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peppa07[/bold] wrote: Chesterfield were the best team I've seen in League 2. What matters about this is the contrast with NW's often implied view that only route one stuff is suitable for League 2. Rubbish. The better footballing sides are the ones that get promoted - Bradford, Rotherham, Port Vale, and now Chesterfield, probably Oxford. We're condemning ourselves to rubbish if we believe only hoofball wins football games. Team selection is a joke. Who in any sensible scheme of things would drop Coulson? He was only on the pitch five minutes and he straight away looked more of a fottballer than any other York player tonight. And why send Brobbel back? Why move Banjo after several excellent performances at right back? I wonder if it's really Berwick Kaler who's picking the team?[/p][/quote]Bradford a good footballing side are you mad. I think worthington dropped coulson because you wouldn't even knew that he played on Saturday he was non existant.[/p][/quote]I know it's history but Coulson in my view actually started very brightly at Hartlepool before fading into the second half. He has however been one of our brighter performers of late - certainly brighter than Carson who gets worse by the game (has Worthington instructed him to curb some of the flair I wonder?) - and did not in my opinion deserve to be left out yesterday.As another observer commented it is difficult to warm to Worthington and his style of football - I have tried I promise! eg trying to convince myself we are "more solid". One of my sons - an avid supporter - is now refusing to attend any future games whilst this hoofball is served up and that should be an increasing worry for the club - this manager is increasingly alienating fans with his antiquated, dour and negative style - compounded by baffling team selections.If it were getting results I could maybe just stomach it, but, and that is the greatest concern it is not and we are actually in a worse position - points per game - than last season under Mills.Worthington must have been perilously close to the sack around the New Year period (Perversely Ingham's saves v Morecambe probably saved him - what gratitude!) and loathe as I am to say it , it might have been better if he hadn't hit lucky again and been allowed to possibly fritter away funds on players who are yet to convince their worth on such long contracts.Very worrying times and I feel sorry for the Board who have been very pro-active. sixtyfourfive

11:03am Wed 29 Jan 14

sixtyfourfive says...

OLD - HEAD wrote:
Well where do I start? - First of all best wishes to Chris Smith, he still has a lot to offer. Chris was often a target for abuse from a lot of people on this forum, but he was probably Gary Mills most influential signing. We were going nowhere without a leader on the pitch until Chris arrived. Chris made mistakes (who doesnt) but he was a talisman in our progress from the non-league widerness. Leading by example in defence, and chipping in with some vital goals when needed. Every genuine York City fan will want to wish Chris well and thank him for what he has done for our club. Back to last night now, Oh dear!. I didnt honestly expect City to beat Chesterfield but I did expect a bit of effort from them. Negative team selection and tactics were also expected for I knew that NW would try to put up the shutters and play for point. But the whole match was a disaster with City just ballooning the ball anywhere. How anybody managed to pick a man of the match for City, beggars belief. The naming of Josh Carson brought laughter from the Longhurst Stand. I said many weeks ago that Nigel Worthington is tactically naive and he is producing some of the most boring football that I have ever seen in sixty years of supporting York City. Sorry Nigel but I saw nothing last night to alter my opinion.
Well said - totally agree. Also forgot in my post (rant!) above to add my thanks and best wishes to Chris Smith.
[quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: Well where do I start? - First of all best wishes to Chris Smith, he still has a lot to offer. Chris was often a target for abuse from a lot of people on this forum, but he was probably Gary Mills most influential signing. We were going nowhere without a leader on the pitch until Chris arrived. Chris made mistakes (who doesnt) but he was a talisman in our progress from the non-league widerness. Leading by example in defence, and chipping in with some vital goals when needed. Every genuine York City fan will want to wish Chris well and thank him for what he has done for our club. Back to last night now, Oh dear!. I didnt honestly expect City to beat Chesterfield but I did expect a bit of effort from them. Negative team selection and tactics were also expected for I knew that NW would try to put up the shutters and play for point. But the whole match was a disaster with City just ballooning the ball anywhere. How anybody managed to pick a man of the match for City, beggars belief. The naming of Josh Carson brought laughter from the Longhurst Stand. I said many weeks ago that Nigel Worthington is tactically naive and he is producing some of the most boring football that I have ever seen in sixty years of supporting York City. Sorry Nigel but I saw nothing last night to alter my opinion.[/p][/quote]Well said - totally agree. Also forgot in my post (rant!) above to add my thanks and best wishes to Chris Smith. sixtyfourfive

11:05am Wed 29 Jan 14

yorkie42 says...

I weep at the absolutely abysmal standard of football served up at BC this season. Last night was the worst performance since Chris Brass's final season. No-one in the team appears capable of controlling the ball, keeping it on the floor, passing the ball, or shooting. And to think that Penn, the worst mid-fielder I have ever seen in a City shirt, is with us for another 2 and a half years, is beyond belief. Oh, how I long for a Scott Kerr and Paddy Mcloughlin. Even if Garry's team kept drawing, It was reasonably attractive to watch. NW's team is, sadly, rubbish..
I weep at the absolutely abysmal standard of football served up at BC this season. Last night was the worst performance since Chris Brass's final season. No-one in the team appears capable of controlling the ball, keeping it on the floor, passing the ball, or shooting. And to think that Penn, the worst mid-fielder I have ever seen in a City shirt, is with us for another 2 and a half years, is beyond belief. Oh, how I long for a Scott Kerr and Paddy Mcloughlin. Even if Garry's team kept drawing, It was reasonably attractive to watch. NW's team is, sadly, rubbish.. yorkie42

11:20am Wed 29 Jan 14

Fat Harry says...

The choice of man of the match is in the hands of the sponsors, who sometimes choose players for their own unique reasons, which may or may not have anything to do with what's happening on the pitch.

If I'd been a sponsor at last night's game I think I'd have declined to nominate anyone - singling out any City player for praise could only have produced laughter and hoots of derision.
The choice of man of the match is in the hands of the sponsors, who sometimes choose players for their own unique reasons, which may or may not have anything to do with what's happening on the pitch. If I'd been a sponsor at last night's game I think I'd have declined to nominate anyone - singling out any City player for praise could only have produced laughter and hoots of derision. Fat Harry

11:20am Wed 29 Jan 14

YorkCityLuke says...

yorkie42 wrote:
I weep at the absolutely abysmal standard of football served up at BC this season. Last night was the worst performance since Chris Brass's final season. No-one in the team appears capable of controlling the ball, keeping it on the floor, passing the ball, or shooting. And to think that Penn, the worst mid-fielder I have ever seen in a City shirt, is with us for another 2 and a half years, is beyond belief. Oh, how I long for a Scott Kerr and Paddy Mcloughlin. Even if Garry's team kept drawing, It was reasonably attractive to watch. NW's team is, sadly, rubbish..
I was thinking the same thing to myself last night. Mills did not get enough points to justify keeping him on as manager - that was the sad truth and nobody objected when he lost his job here because of it. HOWEVER, with Mills there was never any lack of ambition or effort from the squad. Right to the very end he wanted us winning through attractive football, and if he was too stuborn in that style of play it was certainly more entertaining than watching NW hoof and scuff us into another woeful defeat. In 3 years we've gone from being the Barcelona of the conference to the Northern Ireland of League 2. I just can't understand how there are still people pretending his tactics and style of play are acceptable.
[quote][p][bold]yorkie42[/bold] wrote: I weep at the absolutely abysmal standard of football served up at BC this season. Last night was the worst performance since Chris Brass's final season. No-one in the team appears capable of controlling the ball, keeping it on the floor, passing the ball, or shooting. And to think that Penn, the worst mid-fielder I have ever seen in a City shirt, is with us for another 2 and a half years, is beyond belief. Oh, how I long for a Scott Kerr and Paddy Mcloughlin. Even if Garry's team kept drawing, It was reasonably attractive to watch. NW's team is, sadly, rubbish..[/p][/quote]I was thinking the same thing to myself last night. Mills did not get enough points to justify keeping him on as manager - that was the sad truth and nobody objected when he lost his job here because of it. HOWEVER, with Mills there was never any lack of ambition or effort from the squad. Right to the very end he wanted us winning through attractive football, and if he was too stuborn in that style of play it was certainly more entertaining than watching NW hoof and scuff us into another woeful defeat. In 3 years we've gone from being the Barcelona of the conference to the Northern Ireland of League 2. I just can't understand how there are still people pretending his tactics and style of play are acceptable. YorkCityLuke

11:32am Wed 29 Jan 14

Peppa07 says...

I agree with much of what's on here, also YCL in previous post. I forgot to say in my hasty post last night that I'm sad about Smith leaving. He's been a great servant of the club and was possibly the best player over the final 8 games last season. Thanks for everything Chris and good luck wherever you go next.
I agree with much of what's on here, also YCL in previous post. I forgot to say in my hasty post last night that I'm sad about Smith leaving. He's been a great servant of the club and was possibly the best player over the final 8 games last season. Thanks for everything Chris and good luck wherever you go next. Peppa07

11:43am Wed 29 Jan 14

Peppa07 says...

And Ingham could be next. There's no evidence that leaving him out has improved our play. But even if he'd played last night we'd have lost. Chesterfield clearly lost interest after half time as their work was done and it was clear we had no idea how to get back into the match. If Chesterfield had wanted to they could have entertained us with a five goal thrashing. Might have been better if they had - as it is 0-2 doesn't look like the calamity that it truly was. With hoofball and we'll be relegated.
And Ingham could be next. There's no evidence that leaving him out has improved our play. But even if he'd played last night we'd have lost. Chesterfield clearly lost interest after half time as their work was done and it was clear we had no idea how to get back into the match. If Chesterfield had wanted to they could have entertained us with a five goal thrashing. Might have been better if they had - as it is 0-2 doesn't look like the calamity that it truly was. With hoofball and we'll be relegated. Peppa07

12:06pm Wed 29 Jan 14

yorkie42 says...

Our almost mid table position is misleading. Statistically, if current form continues for the rest of the season, we will finish in the bottom 2. I see no evidence that we are capable of anything better. Are Chesterield top because they have paid a fortune for better players, or do they have training methods which concentrate on a constructive passing game? NW needs to look at the video, and learn what it looks like to play attractive and successful football. In his interview he said that a good team doesn't become a bad team overnight. Nigel, we have not been a "good" team all season. The change from "good" to "bad" came the day you walked in.
Our almost mid table position is misleading. Statistically, if current form continues for the rest of the season, we will finish in the bottom 2. I see no evidence that we are capable of anything better. Are Chesterield top because they have paid a fortune for better players, or do they have training methods which concentrate on a constructive passing game? NW needs to look at the video, and learn what it looks like to play attractive and successful football. In his interview he said that a good team doesn't become a bad team overnight. Nigel, we have not been a "good" team all season. The change from "good" to "bad" came the day you walked in. yorkie42

12:22pm Wed 29 Jan 14

carterjason says...

The false dawn of 3 wins on the bounce, and we were lucky to win in some of those. Worthington just is not good enough .
Why drop Ingham ?
Change a central defence partnership again, persistently play banjo out of position.
Play defensive negative tactics, midfielders playing as extra defenders.
How many more games do we have to put up with his antiquated managerialship.
The false dawn of 3 wins on the bounce, and we were lucky to win in some of those. Worthington just is not good enough . Why drop Ingham ? Change a central defence partnership again, persistently play banjo out of position. Play defensive negative tactics, midfielders playing as extra defenders. How many more games do we have to put up with his antiquated managerialship. carterjason

12:40pm Wed 29 Jan 14

bh12man says...

Extremely poor last night, but you just have to question whether we were beaten before we set foot on the pitch. Chesterfield being the Man City/Chesterfield of the division eh Nigel...utter tosh.

NW's 'style' (if that's the right phrase) leaves me cold, and seemingly it does likewise with his squad. It's ultra-professionalis
m gone mad, all this talk of mental-tuning and re-hydration etc zzzzzzz.

Don't be fooled by recent results, we haven't played well, and many of the performances have been turgid. Think of Bury, Accrington, and for him to suggest we played well for 80 minutes at Hartlepool insults the intelligence of those of us who attended.

Once all the games in hand have been used up by those around us it's porbable that we'll find ourselves back within a few points of the drop zone. NW, just let the team have a go and see what happens, it's meant to be enjoyment this football lark!

Full marks to Chesterfield though, some of their football was excellent and showed how far behind we are.
Re Chris Smith- I say this expecting to have to man the barricades. Whilst acknowledging that he played well at the end of most seasons with us (ie, the play offs and last year), it was the many weeks per season before that stage which I also remember him by. He was one of the main reasons that many posters bemoanded the absence of a strong centre-back and leader on the pitch, and whilst I wish him well I don't bemoan his departure.

Interestingly, the suggestion is that he too will have to step down a level to find regular football, like most who formed part of the promotion team. C'est la vie, the truth is that this league is a huge step up and far greater jump in ability that many of us envisaged.

Like most, I will always look back on the conference years with mixed emotions, and wouldn't swop that glorious 8 days in May 2012. But, I look forward and worry that we'll have another tortuous few months to endure.
Extremely poor last night, but you just have to question whether we were beaten before we set foot on the pitch. Chesterfield being the Man City/Chesterfield of the division eh Nigel...utter tosh. NW's 'style' (if that's the right phrase) leaves me cold, and seemingly it does likewise with his squad. It's ultra-professionalis m gone mad, all this talk of mental-tuning and re-hydration etc zzzzzzz. Don't be fooled by recent results, we haven't played well, and many of the performances have been turgid. Think of Bury, Accrington, and for him to suggest we played well for 80 minutes at Hartlepool insults the intelligence of those of us who attended. Once all the games in hand have been used up by those around us it's porbable that we'll find ourselves back within a few points of the drop zone. NW, just let the team have a go and see what happens, it's meant to be enjoyment this football lark! Full marks to Chesterfield though, some of their football was excellent and showed how far behind we are. Re Chris Smith- I say this expecting to have to man the barricades. Whilst acknowledging that he played well at the end of most seasons with us (ie, the play offs and last year), it was the many weeks per season before that stage which I also remember him by. He was one of the main reasons that many posters bemoanded the absence of a strong centre-back and leader on the pitch, and whilst I wish him well I don't bemoan his departure. Interestingly, the suggestion is that he too will have to step down a level to find regular football, like most who formed part of the promotion team. C'est la vie, the truth is that this league is a huge step up and far greater jump in ability that many of us envisaged. Like most, I will always look back on the conference years with mixed emotions, and wouldn't swop that glorious 8 days in May 2012. But, I look forward and worry that we'll have another tortuous few months to endure. bh12man

12:52pm Wed 29 Jan 14

DavidBu says...

23rdApril1966 wrote:
Well that's the end of my lucky jumper postings.
Tonight was abject in every sense. Listen Chesterfield were a class apart and we could have permed any 11 of our squad and it would have made no difference.
But NW's team selection was unfathomable. Lowe at right back, Banjo in midfield, Coulson dropped ahead of Carson? Jeez.
To my mind he's had three rolls of the dice this season and on the evidence of the last 3 games we haven't got it right still.
Please somebody tell me that the selection of Carson as MOM was just gallows humour? If anybody seriously thought that to be the case then Greavesie was right it really is a funny old game!
I'll start a competition - when were we last outclassed in a League game as we were tonight? I will start with a defeat at home to Derby County in the mid 80's when John Gregory was so much in control he could have set up a picnic table for himself.
Tonight really was that much of a humbling.
This correspondent seems to know what he's talking about, depressingly so.
He makes what I was going to say, from my 170 miles safe distance away, quite tame, but the opening comments of the Press report didn't read well:
" One-sided game; second minute error leads to opening goal; 0-2 flattered City, who had three shots on goal."
Come on YC you are a great Club. Start to fight back and we'll get another 12 months to work on the squad and move forward to a bit safer place..
[quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: Well that's the end of my lucky jumper postings. Tonight was abject in every sense. Listen Chesterfield were a class apart and we could have permed any 11 of our squad and it would have made no difference. But NW's team selection was unfathomable. Lowe at right back, Banjo in midfield, Coulson dropped ahead of Carson? Jeez. To my mind he's had three rolls of the dice this season and on the evidence of the last 3 games we haven't got it right still. Please somebody tell me that the selection of Carson as MOM was just gallows humour? If anybody seriously thought that to be the case then Greavesie was right it really is a funny old game! I'll start a competition - when were we last outclassed in a League game as we were tonight? I will start with a defeat at home to Derby County in the mid 80's when John Gregory was so much in control he could have set up a picnic table for himself. Tonight really was that much of a humbling.[/p][/quote]This correspondent seems to know what he's talking about, depressingly so. He makes what I was going to say, from my 170 miles safe distance away, quite tame, but the opening comments of the Press report didn't read well: " One-sided game; second minute error leads to opening goal; 0-2 flattered City, who had three shots on goal." Come on YC you are a great Club. Start to fight back and we'll get another 12 months to work on the squad and move forward to a bit safer place.. DavidBu

1:02pm Wed 29 Jan 14

DavidBu says...

Fat Harry wrote:
The choice of man of the match is in the hands of the sponsors, who sometimes choose players for their own unique reasons, which may or may not have anything to do with what's happening on the pitch.

If I'd been a sponsor at last night's game I think I'd have declined to nominate anyone - singling out any City player for praise could only have produced laughter and hoots of derision.
Fat Harry makes a good, humourous point and that is always welcome.
The serious side to it is that what is lacking from our management is honesty.
Boot and hope is loss limitation; it might win us a bit of time, but the fans will stay at home if it goes on.
NW and GM working together as a team is what might have worked , But that's away with the tooth fairy!
[quote][p][bold]Fat Harry[/bold] wrote: The choice of man of the match is in the hands of the sponsors, who sometimes choose players for their own unique reasons, which may or may not have anything to do with what's happening on the pitch. If I'd been a sponsor at last night's game I think I'd have declined to nominate anyone - singling out any City player for praise could only have produced laughter and hoots of derision.[/p][/quote]Fat Harry makes a good, humourous point and that is always welcome. The serious side to it is that what is lacking from our management is honesty. Boot and hope is loss limitation; it might win us a bit of time, but the fans will stay at home if it goes on. NW and GM working together as a team is what might have worked , But that's away with the tooth fairy! DavidBu

1:05pm Wed 29 Jan 14

bh12man says...

bh12man wrote:
Extremely poor last night, but you just have to question whether we were beaten before we set foot on the pitch. Chesterfield being the Man City/Chesterfield of the division eh Nigel...utter tosh.

NW's 'style' (if that's the right phrase) leaves me cold, and seemingly it does likewise with his squad. It's ultra-professionalis

m gone mad, all this talk of mental-tuning and re-hydration etc zzzzzzz.

Don't be fooled by recent results, we haven't played well, and many of the performances have been turgid. Think of Bury, Accrington, and for him to suggest we played well for 80 minutes at Hartlepool insults the intelligence of those of us who attended.

Once all the games in hand have been used up by those around us it's porbable that we'll find ourselves back within a few points of the drop zone. NW, just let the team have a go and see what happens, it's meant to be enjoyment this football lark!

Full marks to Chesterfield though, some of their football was excellent and showed how far behind we are.
Re Chris Smith- I say this expecting to have to man the barricades. Whilst acknowledging that he played well at the end of most seasons with us (ie, the play offs and last year), it was the many weeks per season before that stage which I also remember him by. He was one of the main reasons that many posters bemoanded the absence of a strong centre-back and leader on the pitch, and whilst I wish him well I don't bemoan his departure.

Interestingly, the suggestion is that he too will have to step down a level to find regular football, like most who formed part of the promotion team. C'est la vie, the truth is that this league is a huge step up and far greater jump in ability that many of us envisaged.

Like most, I will always look back on the conference years with mixed emotions, and wouldn't swop that glorious 8 days in May 2012. But, I look forward and worry that we'll have another tortuous few months to endure.
ok, so Chesterfield are the Man City/Chesterfield of the division.......sorry
, I meant Man City/Chelsea !!
[quote][p][bold]bh12man[/bold] wrote: Extremely poor last night, but you just have to question whether we were beaten before we set foot on the pitch. Chesterfield being the Man City/Chesterfield of the division eh Nigel...utter tosh. NW's 'style' (if that's the right phrase) leaves me cold, and seemingly it does likewise with his squad. It's ultra-professionalis m gone mad, all this talk of mental-tuning and re-hydration etc zzzzzzz. Don't be fooled by recent results, we haven't played well, and many of the performances have been turgid. Think of Bury, Accrington, and for him to suggest we played well for 80 minutes at Hartlepool insults the intelligence of those of us who attended. Once all the games in hand have been used up by those around us it's porbable that we'll find ourselves back within a few points of the drop zone. NW, just let the team have a go and see what happens, it's meant to be enjoyment this football lark! Full marks to Chesterfield though, some of their football was excellent and showed how far behind we are. Re Chris Smith- I say this expecting to have to man the barricades. Whilst acknowledging that he played well at the end of most seasons with us (ie, the play offs and last year), it was the many weeks per season before that stage which I also remember him by. He was one of the main reasons that many posters bemoanded the absence of a strong centre-back and leader on the pitch, and whilst I wish him well I don't bemoan his departure. Interestingly, the suggestion is that he too will have to step down a level to find regular football, like most who formed part of the promotion team. C'est la vie, the truth is that this league is a huge step up and far greater jump in ability that many of us envisaged. Like most, I will always look back on the conference years with mixed emotions, and wouldn't swop that glorious 8 days in May 2012. But, I look forward and worry that we'll have another tortuous few months to endure.[/p][/quote]ok, so Chesterfield are the Man City/Chesterfield of the division.......sorry , I meant Man City/Chelsea !! bh12man

1:31pm Wed 29 Jan 14

born&breed says...

Out classed - out performed - out paced - no control - no skill - MOTM - very difficult to select anyone from that display - had to select someone - may be they had a draw and Carson came out first. Chesterfield played football on the ground (like City did under Gary M) - moved the ball a pace leaving us on the backfoot all the time. When their defenders had the ball - three or four forwards were pushing out defence backwards - 2nd half we were left off the hook - a clean sheet!!!
We've had bad days/nights at BC but let's look forward - things can only better (said with tongue in cheek) Fleetwood - they gave us a football lesson at home - if we turn up, let's go there and do the same to them.
Out classed - out performed - out paced - no control - no skill - MOTM - very difficult to select anyone from that display - had to select someone - may be they had a draw and Carson came out first. Chesterfield played football on the ground (like City did under Gary M) - moved the ball a pace leaving us on the backfoot all the time. When their defenders had the ball - three or four forwards were pushing out defence backwards - 2nd half we were left off the hook - a clean sheet!!! We've had bad days/nights at BC but let's look forward - things can only better (said with tongue in cheek) Fleetwood - they gave us a football lesson at home - if we turn up, let's go there and do the same to them. born&breed

1:37pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Tiggster says...

I am another who has refused to watch City now due to the style of football under NW. It is boring hoofball with no semblance of a plan on how to score goals, added to his bizarre team selections on occasions, we are a dreadful team to watch. Under Mills at least we saw some attractive footy and some half-deecnt players, would long to see Kerr, McLaughlin and Blair back compared to watching Montrose, Carson et al with their complete lack of creativity.
Sad to see Smith go, Yeah he made mistakes but at L2 & Conf Prem level what defender doesnt? But he always gave 100% and appeared to be a true clubman and a decent leader.
NW has had enough games, enough financial backing and enough chances. sorry it's poor and it's never going to get better under him. Time for a change.
I am another who has refused to watch City now due to the style of football under NW. It is boring hoofball with no semblance of a plan on how to score goals, added to his bizarre team selections on occasions, we are a dreadful team to watch. Under Mills at least we saw some attractive footy and some half-deecnt players, would long to see Kerr, McLaughlin and Blair back compared to watching Montrose, Carson et al with their complete lack of creativity. Sad to see Smith go, Yeah he made mistakes but at L2 & Conf Prem level what defender doesnt? But he always gave 100% and appeared to be a true clubman and a decent leader. NW has had enough games, enough financial backing and enough chances. sorry it's poor and it's never going to get better under him. Time for a change. Tiggster

2:03pm Wed 29 Jan 14

sixtyfourfive says...

Very fearful of what might happen on Saturday v Fleetwood. Saw some of their game v Scunthorpe on Sky TV Monday and they looked a very good team - similar style to Chesterfield. (NB Worthington - it is possible to be strong, pass the ball and gather points at the same time).How Scunthorpe (a far better side themselves than us) got away with a draw was difficult to understand.Interesti
ngly the star performer (MOTM) for Fleetwood was the left back we had on loan last season (Charlie Taylor from Leeds Utd) - has improved immensely since with us.I think even Worthingtons' most avid fans are lost for words after last night's horror show!
Very fearful of what might happen on Saturday v Fleetwood. Saw some of their game v Scunthorpe on Sky TV Monday and they looked a very good team - similar style to Chesterfield. (NB Worthington - it is possible to be strong, pass the ball and gather points at the same time).How Scunthorpe (a far better side themselves than us) got away with a draw was difficult to understand.Interesti ngly the star performer (MOTM) for Fleetwood was the left back we had on loan last season (Charlie Taylor from Leeds Utd) - has improved immensely since with us.I think even Worthingtons' most avid fans are lost for words after last night's horror show! sixtyfourfive

2:15pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Garrowby Turnoff says...

Nothing's going to change under NW. I've been pointing out his poor coaching record in terms of goals scored for months.

http://www.transferm
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Enjoy
Nothing's going to change under NW. I've been pointing out his poor coaching record in terms of goals scored for months. http://www.transferm arkt.co.uk/en/nigel- worthington/leistung -saison/trainer_605. html Enjoy Garrowby Turnoff

2:35pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Budgie says...

I am lost for words could not believe some of the team selection, no Coulson, no Banjo at RB, by far his best position,played Carson who was dreadful but he was not on his own as for Penn say no more and he will be around for a long while. Big boot again, feel sorry for Fletch and Bowman who have to feed of scraps
I am lost for words could not believe some of the team selection, no Coulson, no Banjo at RB, by far his best position,played Carson who was dreadful but he was not on his own as for Penn say no more and he will be around for a long while. Big boot again, feel sorry for Fletch and Bowman who have to feed of scraps Budgie

2:58pm Wed 29 Jan 14

pip007 says...

On a positive note, there's a very good League 2 team in that squad somewhere. Some of our players really are excellent. I think most of us on this board could select a team from our squad that could win most matches. If City were to 'crowdsource' the team selections every week, we would probably be in the playoffs by now.
On a positive note, there's a very good League 2 team in that squad somewhere. Some of our players really are excellent. I think most of us on this board could select a team from our squad that could win most matches. If City were to 'crowdsource' the team selections every week, we would probably be in the playoffs by now. pip007

4:16pm Wed 29 Jan 14

wildthing666 says...

2 shots on goal in 90 minutes that is like a poor Sunday league side
2 shots on goal in 90 minutes that is like a poor Sunday league side wildthing666

4:28pm Wed 29 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

pip007 wrote:
On a positive note, there's a very good League 2 team in that squad somewhere. Some of our players really are excellent. I think most of us on this board could select a team from our squad that could win most matches. If City were to 'crowdsource' the team selections every week, we would probably be in the playoffs by now.
PIP007..I am always positive on here and im not going to change, Saturday would have brought out the worst is most supporters, but its no good praising NW for his signing three weeks ago and kicking him up the jacksie today,,he has as you said good players that can do the business
And should, they are experienced ,when they run out at 2,55 no matter what has been said they play the game and if things need to change on the field they are the ones to do it, As for Fleetwood they will only be as good as we let them I don't think that will happen, we will see a different game played by the same players,
[quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: On a positive note, there's a very good League 2 team in that squad somewhere. Some of our players really are excellent. I think most of us on this board could select a team from our squad that could win most matches. If City were to 'crowdsource' the team selections every week, we would probably be in the playoffs by now.[/p][/quote]PIP007..I am always positive on here and im not going to change, Saturday would have brought out the worst is most supporters, but its no good praising NW for his signing three weeks ago and kicking him up the jacksie today,,he has as you said good players that can do the business And should, they are experienced ,when they run out at 2,55 no matter what has been said they play the game and if things need to change on the field they are the ones to do it, As for Fleetwood they will only be as good as we let them I don't think that will happen, we will see a different game played by the same players, bill bailey

4:41pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Phil, Leeds says...

We seemed to be making progress with those 3 wins and an unlucky not to win draw against Bristol R. And that was much to do with at last having a settled side. And then NW started meddling with the team selection starting with dropping Ingham after conceding just 1 goal in 3 games - unfathomable. Now we've got this guy Penn in central midfield, God he looks no better than a Sunday morning pub player, he's moved Lowe out to right back when he looked solid at centre half and moved the right back Banjo to right wing. I know Platt has been heavily criticised by many but the lad's a young, local lad who showed he had plenty of talent at the end of last season and actually showed some nice touches last night when he came on.
The gulf in class from the two sides last night was huge, it looked like the poorest League 2 side against a decent Championship side, that's how poor City were. To play with accurate, quick passing and movement all over the pitch is what all teams should aspire to. And all the Chesterfield team put in a full 100% shift as well.
For the tough game at Fleetwood I would bring back Ingham, play Banjo at full back, Lowe at centre back, replace Penn with Tom Platt and use either Hayhurst or Coulson wide up front.
All the best to Smithy who has been a great servant to the Club in 2 spells.
We seemed to be making progress with those 3 wins and an unlucky not to win draw against Bristol R. And that was much to do with at last having a settled side. And then NW started meddling with the team selection starting with dropping Ingham after conceding just 1 goal in 3 games - unfathomable. Now we've got this guy Penn in central midfield, God he looks no better than a Sunday morning pub player, he's moved Lowe out to right back when he looked solid at centre half and moved the right back Banjo to right wing. I know Platt has been heavily criticised by many but the lad's a young, local lad who showed he had plenty of talent at the end of last season and actually showed some nice touches last night when he came on. The gulf in class from the two sides last night was huge, it looked like the poorest League 2 side against a decent Championship side, that's how poor City were. To play with accurate, quick passing and movement all over the pitch is what all teams should aspire to. And all the Chesterfield team put in a full 100% shift as well. For the tough game at Fleetwood I would bring back Ingham, play Banjo at full back, Lowe at centre back, replace Penn with Tom Platt and use either Hayhurst or Coulson wide up front. All the best to Smithy who has been a great servant to the Club in 2 spells. Phil, Leeds

4:43pm Wed 29 Jan 14

T.R.M1974 says...

Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith
Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith T.R.M1974

4:50pm Wed 29 Jan 14

dadster says...

I think you’re right we do have a decent squad of players that are capable of finishing mid table and possibly even top half.
NW still has my support but he has to:
1. Pick Banjo at right back as that’s his position simple as that. He’ll never make an attacking wide player end of story.
2. Stop being too defensive. I could understand his tactics when we were looking lightweight in the centre of our defence but we now look much more solid there with Lowe, McGurk and McCombe.
3. Play a left footed player on the left wing and a right footed player on the right wing. I can’t get my head around it being the other way as it simply means Carson and Coulson keep having to cut inside which only serves to narrow the pitch.
4. Sign another holding midfielder as Montrose is our only viable option in there currently and with his disciplinary record he’s always likely to miss games.
Penn also needs to be given time. He’s only just joined and people are slagging him off already. Granted he’s not been great so far but he’s only played 4 games for goodness sake.
There are those on this forum that keep referring back to the football we played under GM last season and wishing we still had the likes of Kerr, McLauglin and Blair still playing for us as if it was hugely entertaining and successful. It wasn’t. It was equally boring and hugely ineffective to the point that we would have been relegated had we continued. It’s no surprise that the likes of the aforementioned players are either playing in the Conference or out on loan to the bottom team in L2 as they were simply not good enough.
I don’t advocate the type of football we played last night and I wish we would mix it up better and play in a more attractive manner but for me we have better players than this time last year and are progressing as a league club albeit slowly which for some is not good enough. We will be ok in terms of securing our league status this season. Unfortunately some people are too quick to start panicking when we get a bad result. Last night was unacceptable but it was one game. Yes other teams below us have games in hand on us but give me points in the bag every day of the week and with a lot of them actually having those games in hand against each other they can’t all get maximum points.
I think you’re right we do have a decent squad of players that are capable of finishing mid table and possibly even top half. NW still has my support but he has to: 1. Pick Banjo at right back as that’s his position simple as that. He’ll never make an attacking wide player end of story. 2. Stop being too defensive. I could understand his tactics when we were looking lightweight in the centre of our defence but we now look much more solid there with Lowe, McGurk and McCombe. 3. Play a left footed player on the left wing and a right footed player on the right wing. I can’t get my head around it being the other way as it simply means Carson and Coulson keep having to cut inside which only serves to narrow the pitch. 4. Sign another holding midfielder as Montrose is our only viable option in there currently and with his disciplinary record he’s always likely to miss games. Penn also needs to be given time. He’s only just joined and people are slagging him off already. Granted he’s not been great so far but he’s only played 4 games for goodness sake. There are those on this forum that keep referring back to the football we played under GM last season and wishing we still had the likes of Kerr, McLauglin and Blair still playing for us as if it was hugely entertaining and successful. It wasn’t. It was equally boring and hugely ineffective to the point that we would have been relegated had we continued. It’s no surprise that the likes of the aforementioned players are either playing in the Conference or out on loan to the bottom team in L2 as they were simply not good enough. I don’t advocate the type of football we played last night and I wish we would mix it up better and play in a more attractive manner but for me we have better players than this time last year and are progressing as a league club albeit slowly which for some is not good enough. We will be ok in terms of securing our league status this season. Unfortunately some people are too quick to start panicking when we get a bad result. Last night was unacceptable but it was one game. Yes other teams below us have games in hand on us but give me points in the bag every day of the week and with a lot of them actually having those games in hand against each other they can’t all get maximum points. dadster

4:57pm Wed 29 Jan 14

dadster says...

dadster wrote:
I think you’re right we do have a decent squad of players that are capable of finishing mid table and possibly even top half.
NW still has my support but he has to:
1. Pick Banjo at right back as that’s his position simple as that. He’ll never make an attacking wide player end of story.
2. Stop being too defensive. I could understand his tactics when we were looking lightweight in the centre of our defence but we now look much more solid there with Lowe, McGurk and McCombe.
3. Play a left footed player on the left wing and a right footed player on the right wing. I can’t get my head around it being the other way as it simply means Carson and Coulson keep having to cut inside which only serves to narrow the pitch.
4. Sign another holding midfielder as Montrose is our only viable option in there currently and with his disciplinary record he’s always likely to miss games.
Penn also needs to be given time. He’s only just joined and people are slagging him off already. Granted he’s not been great so far but he’s only played 4 games for goodness sake.
There are those on this forum that keep referring back to the football we played under GM last season and wishing we still had the likes of Kerr, McLauglin and Blair still playing for us as if it was hugely entertaining and successful. It wasn’t. It was equally boring and hugely ineffective to the point that we would have been relegated had we continued. It’s no surprise that the likes of the aforementioned players are either playing in the Conference or out on loan to the bottom team in L2 as they were simply not good enough.
I don’t advocate the type of football we played last night and I wish we would mix it up better and play in a more attractive manner but for me we have better players than this time last year and are progressing as a league club albeit slowly which for some is not good enough. We will be ok in terms of securing our league status this season. Unfortunately some people are too quick to start panicking when we get a bad result. Last night was unacceptable but it was one game. Yes other teams below us have games in hand on us but give me points in the bag every day of the week and with a lot of them actually having those games in hand against each other they can’t all get maximum points.
Sorry, meant to say I agree with pip007's earlier post regarding our squad.
[quote][p][bold]dadster[/bold] wrote: I think you’re right we do have a decent squad of players that are capable of finishing mid table and possibly even top half. NW still has my support but he has to: 1. Pick Banjo at right back as that’s his position simple as that. He’ll never make an attacking wide player end of story. 2. Stop being too defensive. I could understand his tactics when we were looking lightweight in the centre of our defence but we now look much more solid there with Lowe, McGurk and McCombe. 3. Play a left footed player on the left wing and a right footed player on the right wing. I can’t get my head around it being the other way as it simply means Carson and Coulson keep having to cut inside which only serves to narrow the pitch. 4. Sign another holding midfielder as Montrose is our only viable option in there currently and with his disciplinary record he’s always likely to miss games. Penn also needs to be given time. He’s only just joined and people are slagging him off already. Granted he’s not been great so far but he’s only played 4 games for goodness sake. There are those on this forum that keep referring back to the football we played under GM last season and wishing we still had the likes of Kerr, McLauglin and Blair still playing for us as if it was hugely entertaining and successful. It wasn’t. It was equally boring and hugely ineffective to the point that we would have been relegated had we continued. It’s no surprise that the likes of the aforementioned players are either playing in the Conference or out on loan to the bottom team in L2 as they were simply not good enough. I don’t advocate the type of football we played last night and I wish we would mix it up better and play in a more attractive manner but for me we have better players than this time last year and are progressing as a league club albeit slowly which for some is not good enough. We will be ok in terms of securing our league status this season. Unfortunately some people are too quick to start panicking when we get a bad result. Last night was unacceptable but it was one game. Yes other teams below us have games in hand on us but give me points in the bag every day of the week and with a lot of them actually having those games in hand against each other they can’t all get maximum points.[/p][/quote]Sorry, meant to say I agree with pip007's earlier post regarding our squad. dadster

5:30pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Tug job says...

dadster wrote:
I think you’re right we do have a decent squad of players that are capable of finishing mid table and possibly even top half.
NW still has my support but he has to:
1. Pick Banjo at right back as that’s his position simple as that. He’ll never make an attacking wide player end of story.
2. Stop being too defensive. I could understand his tactics when we were looking lightweight in the centre of our defence but we now look much more solid there with Lowe, McGurk and McCombe.
3. Play a left footed player on the left wing and a right footed player on the right wing. I can’t get my head around it being the other way as it simply means Carson and Coulson keep having to cut inside which only serves to narrow the pitch.
4. Sign another holding midfielder as Montrose is our only viable option in there currently and with his disciplinary record he’s always likely to miss games.
Penn also needs to be given time. He’s only just joined and people are slagging him off already. Granted he’s not been great so far but he’s only played 4 games for goodness sake.
There are those on this forum that keep referring back to the football we played under GM last season and wishing we still had the likes of Kerr, McLauglin and Blair still playing for us as if it was hugely entertaining and successful. It wasn’t. It was equally boring and hugely ineffective to the point that we would have been relegated had we continued. It’s no surprise that the likes of the aforementioned players are either playing in the Conference or out on loan to the bottom team in L2 as they were simply not good enough.
I don’t advocate the type of football we played last night and I wish we would mix it up better and play in a more attractive manner but for me we have better players than this time last year and are progressing as a league club albeit slowly which for some is not good enough. We will be ok in terms of securing our league status this season. Unfortunately some people are too quick to start panicking when we get a bad result. Last night was unacceptable but it was one game. Yes other teams below us have games in hand on us but give me points in the bag every day of the week and with a lot of them actually having those games in hand against each other they can’t all get maximum points.
Now this is an interesting post. I think people refer to the passing, flowing football we played under Mills, which opponents had worked out how to disrupt and counter around the mid-point of last season. The problem with Mills was that his plan B, such as it was, was very similar to the tactics NW uses now, just hoofing the ball upfield hoping Fletcher/Bowman can do something with it. The main difference is that we have two reasonable strikers up front, whereas last season it was, largely, Jason Walker on his own. This system didn't work with Mills's squad. I just hope it will allow us to scrape together the 20 points we still need to be safe this time around.
[quote][p][bold]dadster[/bold] wrote: I think you’re right we do have a decent squad of players that are capable of finishing mid table and possibly even top half. NW still has my support but he has to: 1. Pick Banjo at right back as that’s his position simple as that. He’ll never make an attacking wide player end of story. 2. Stop being too defensive. I could understand his tactics when we were looking lightweight in the centre of our defence but we now look much more solid there with Lowe, McGurk and McCombe. 3. Play a left footed player on the left wing and a right footed player on the right wing. I can’t get my head around it being the other way as it simply means Carson and Coulson keep having to cut inside which only serves to narrow the pitch. 4. Sign another holding midfielder as Montrose is our only viable option in there currently and with his disciplinary record he’s always likely to miss games. Penn also needs to be given time. He’s only just joined and people are slagging him off already. Granted he’s not been great so far but he’s only played 4 games for goodness sake. There are those on this forum that keep referring back to the football we played under GM last season and wishing we still had the likes of Kerr, McLauglin and Blair still playing for us as if it was hugely entertaining and successful. It wasn’t. It was equally boring and hugely ineffective to the point that we would have been relegated had we continued. It’s no surprise that the likes of the aforementioned players are either playing in the Conference or out on loan to the bottom team in L2 as they were simply not good enough. I don’t advocate the type of football we played last night and I wish we would mix it up better and play in a more attractive manner but for me we have better players than this time last year and are progressing as a league club albeit slowly which for some is not good enough. We will be ok in terms of securing our league status this season. Unfortunately some people are too quick to start panicking when we get a bad result. Last night was unacceptable but it was one game. Yes other teams below us have games in hand on us but give me points in the bag every day of the week and with a lot of them actually having those games in hand against each other they can’t all get maximum points.[/p][/quote]Now this is an interesting post. I think people refer to the passing, flowing football we played under Mills, which opponents had worked out how to disrupt and counter around the mid-point of last season. The problem with Mills was that his plan B, such as it was, was very similar to the tactics NW uses now, just hoofing the ball upfield hoping Fletcher/Bowman can do something with it. The main difference is that we have two reasonable strikers up front, whereas last season it was, largely, Jason Walker on his own. This system didn't work with Mills's squad. I just hope it will allow us to scrape together the 20 points we still need to be safe this time around. Tug job

5:34pm Wed 29 Jan 14

poppyroad says...

Thank you Dadster.
I live in Cambridge - but only watch the City.
last night Cambridge United lost t home to the York City rejects - Grimsby.
if NW can again keep us from falling back into the abyss that is the
Conference I will again be very very grateful
- but if by the end of 14 - 15 season we are still playing hoof ball#
that sees us only surviving/ rather than challenging for promotion, NW will have had his opportunity.
Banjo and McGurk now the only survivor from GM (unless Ingham can force his way back in) and that's because GM bought appallingly
whilst NW has found us 3 useful strikers, and Carson and Lowe - and give Penn & McCombe a chance- and the squad that came up wasn't good enough to keep us up.
Thank you Dadster. I live in Cambridge - but only watch the City. last night Cambridge United lost t home to the York City rejects - Grimsby. if NW can again keep us from falling back into the abyss that is the Conference I will again be very very grateful - but if by the end of 14 - 15 season we are still playing hoof ball# that sees us only surviving/ rather than challenging for promotion, NW will have had his opportunity. Banjo and McGurk now the only survivor from GM (unless Ingham can force his way back in) and that's because GM bought appallingly whilst NW has found us 3 useful strikers, and Carson and Lowe - and give Penn & McCombe a chance- and the squad that came up wasn't good enough to keep us up. poppyroad

5:35pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Edsoni says...

openallhours wrote:
An awful performance, and an even worse team selection. A right back playing in midfield, a decent centre back put to right back, balls hoofed up to an ineffective forward and no shots on goal - it was just like watching a Mills side/formation all over again! The only positive was... ? Chesterfield are the best side in this division so tonight isn't a complete disaster. A lot will have been learned from this display, and I predict a mid-table finish at worst.
An almost balanced assessment apart from the irrelevant reference to Mills.
...except we are in a worst points position than last year and before our very eyes we are seeing the confidence drain from players and supporters alike.
Groundhog?
It is better to win 3 lose 3 than get 6 draws but many are back to wondering where our next win is coming from. Moving the form centre-half and breaking up the defence was astonishing. It seems that NW has promised game time to certain players come what may.
After Hartlepool I thought it was probably right to give Coulson a rest - he seemed to be running on empty in the second half and therefore Carson who's a shadow of his best probably needed to retain his position. Possibly about turn on Saturday?
As OAH says an awful performance (to follow a dire away day) lets hope that NW can spark some changes. I must admit the balance is more hope than confidence at the moment; but please Nigel remember that a boring defensive approach is not what most patrons desire.
At the moment we are in a relegation battle -the current approach isn't working. Having said that -a game against Chesterfield isn't a good indicator of ability unfortunately games against Northampton and Hartlepool are.

In closing - many thanks to Chris Smith who as much as most is responsible for our current league status. Good Luck in the future.
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: An awful performance, and an even worse team selection. A right back playing in midfield, a decent centre back put to right back, balls hoofed up to an ineffective forward and no shots on goal - it was just like watching a Mills side/formation all over again! The only positive was... ? Chesterfield are the best side in this division so tonight isn't a complete disaster. A lot will have been learned from this display, and I predict a mid-table finish at worst.[/p][/quote]An almost balanced assessment apart from the irrelevant reference to Mills. ...except we are in a worst points position than last year and before our very eyes we are seeing the confidence drain from players and supporters alike. Groundhog? It is better to win 3 lose 3 than get 6 draws but many are back to wondering where our next win is coming from. Moving the form centre-half and breaking up the defence was astonishing. It seems that NW has promised game time to certain players come what may. After Hartlepool I thought it was probably right to give Coulson a rest - he seemed to be running on empty in the second half and therefore Carson who's a shadow of his best probably needed to retain his position. Possibly about turn on Saturday? As OAH says an awful performance (to follow a dire away day) lets hope that NW can spark some changes. I must admit the balance is more hope than confidence at the moment; but please Nigel remember that a boring defensive approach is not what most patrons desire. At the moment we are in a relegation battle -the current approach isn't working. Having said that -a game against Chesterfield isn't a good indicator of ability unfortunately games against Northampton and Hartlepool are. In closing - many thanks to Chris Smith who as much as most is responsible for our current league status. Good Luck in the future. Edsoni

5:42pm Wed 29 Jan 14

OLD - HEAD says...

T.R.M1974 wrote:
Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith
You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.
[quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith[/p][/quote]You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on. OLD - HEAD

5:49pm Wed 29 Jan 14

T.R.M1974 says...

I'm fed up of GM this GM that, whats done is done. It was good while it lasted but like most managers they go stale, love him ( very few) or hate him NW is in charge. So try and get behind the team no matter how frustrating ithe game is, things cant get worse than last nights dross i hope
I'm fed up of GM this GM that, whats done is done. It was good while it lasted but like most managers they go stale, love him ( very few) or hate him NW is in charge. So try and get behind the team no matter how frustrating ithe game is, things cant get worse than last nights dross i hope T.R.M1974

7:39pm Wed 29 Jan 14

23rdApril1966 says...

OLD - HEAD wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith
You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.
And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really.
Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking.
Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test.
Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope.
Who kicks better? Pope.
Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure.
If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.
[quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith[/p][/quote]You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.[/p][/quote]And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really. Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking. Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test. Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope. Who kicks better? Pope. Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure. If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do. 23rdApril1966

7:45pm Wed 29 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

T.R.M1974 wrote:
I'm fed up of GM this GM that, whats done is done. It was good while it lasted but like most managers they go stale, love him ( very few) or hate him NW is in charge. So try and get behind the team no matter how frustrating ithe game is, things cant get worse than last nights dross i hope
Fair comment TRM If they cant get behind NW who do they want to get behind,?? I certainly wouldn't want any of the previous ones ..
[quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: I'm fed up of GM this GM that, whats done is done. It was good while it lasted but like most managers they go stale, love him ( very few) or hate him NW is in charge. So try and get behind the team no matter how frustrating ithe game is, things cant get worse than last nights dross i hope[/p][/quote]Fair comment TRM If they cant get behind NW who do they want to get behind,?? I certainly wouldn't want any of the previous ones .. bill bailey

8:18pm Wed 29 Jan 14

YorkCityLuke says...

23rdApril1966 wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith
You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.
And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really.
Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking.
Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test.
Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope.
Who kicks better? Pope.
Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure.
If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.
Pope kicks better? Not in my books he doesn't, he could barely keep a single goal kick on the pitch in the first half and he has a tendency to flap at crosses. Ingham is the better more experienced 'keeper, who was getting the right results. It was an insult, and a stupid insult at that, to drop him. Why wouldn't he get a hot drink? There was no chance of him playing, NW would probably have brought on Shaq Mcdonald as an emergency goalkeeper before playing Ingham.
[quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith[/p][/quote]You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.[/p][/quote]And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really. Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking. Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test. Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope. Who kicks better? Pope. Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure. If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.[/p][/quote]Pope kicks better? Not in my books he doesn't, he could barely keep a single goal kick on the pitch in the first half and he has a tendency to flap at crosses. Ingham is the better more experienced 'keeper, who was getting the right results. It was an insult, and a stupid insult at that, to drop him. Why wouldn't he get a hot drink? There was no chance of him playing, NW would probably have brought on Shaq Mcdonald as an emergency goalkeeper before playing Ingham. YorkCityLuke

8:22pm Wed 29 Jan 14

SelseyBill says...

After reading all the comments above I am pleased to be a long distance supporter. It is bad enough reading the match report. For the paying supporters it must be grim. I have followed city since the 50's through the highs and lows. Teams that play football at least have a chance, from these posts it seems we don,t. Come on city let's play to win!!!
After reading all the comments above I am pleased to be a long distance supporter. It is bad enough reading the match report. For the paying supporters it must be grim. I have followed city since the 50's through the highs and lows. Teams that play football at least have a chance, from these posts it seems we don,t. Come on city let's play to win!!! SelseyBill

8:33pm Wed 29 Jan 14

duffy says...

SelseyBill wrote:
After reading all the comments above I am pleased to be a long distance supporter. It is bad enough reading the match report. For the paying supporters it must be grim. I have followed city since the 50's through the highs and lows. Teams that play football at least have a chance, from these posts it seems we don,t. Come on city let's play to win!!!
And it's the style of play and negativity that worries me the most, it's not a long term strategy that's going to see crowds increasing, quite the opposite. Nigel talks time and again about the passing ability within the team but from everything I've seen this season we don't play a passing game. We will lose a few, win a few, and probably end up a so so league two team. But is that going to be enough to retain the fans playing this style of football ? I have my doubts.
[quote][p][bold]SelseyBill[/bold] wrote: After reading all the comments above I am pleased to be a long distance supporter. It is bad enough reading the match report. For the paying supporters it must be grim. I have followed city since the 50's through the highs and lows. Teams that play football at least have a chance, from these posts it seems we don,t. Come on city let's play to win!!![/p][/quote]And it's the style of play and negativity that worries me the most, it's not a long term strategy that's going to see crowds increasing, quite the opposite. Nigel talks time and again about the passing ability within the team but from everything I've seen this season we don't play a passing game. We will lose a few, win a few, and probably end up a so so league two team. But is that going to be enough to retain the fans playing this style of football ? I have my doubts. duffy

8:37pm Wed 29 Jan 14

nudger says...

I would also like to thank Chris Smith, and wish him well for the future. He was the major influence in our survival last season, and was more than ready to put his head in where it hurt for the team,leading to nasty looking injuries at Torquay,Wimbledon and Dagenham,yet still contributing with goals and key clearances,e,g off the line in the last minute against Southend in penultimate game. Lacked a bit of pace but brave and dedicated.
On another thread,surely there was no doubt that Pope was our MOM. The Chesterfield websites and papers certainly thought so. He cannot be blamed for either defeat and has settled in well for a young and relatively inexperienced keeper.
BTW not sure how well Fleetwood pitch drains but there is some pretty heavy rain on its way on Friday. Already wondering what to do in Plymouth in a fortnight if the monsoons persist. The perils of booking cheap train tickets,eh?
I would also like to thank Chris Smith, and wish him well for the future. He was the major influence in our survival last season, and was more than ready to put his head in where it hurt for the team,leading to nasty looking injuries at Torquay,Wimbledon and Dagenham,yet still contributing with goals and key clearances,e,g off the line in the last minute against Southend in penultimate game. Lacked a bit of pace but brave and dedicated. On another thread,surely there was no doubt that Pope was our MOM. The Chesterfield websites and papers certainly thought so. He cannot be blamed for either defeat and has settled in well for a young and relatively inexperienced keeper. BTW not sure how well Fleetwood pitch drains but there is some pretty heavy rain on its way on Friday. Already wondering what to do in Plymouth in a fortnight if the monsoons persist. The perils of booking cheap train tickets,eh? nudger

9:01pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Tug job says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith
You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.
And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really.
Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking.
Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test.
Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope.
Who kicks better? Pope.
Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure.
If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.
Pope kicks better? Not in my books he doesn't, he could barely keep a single goal kick on the pitch in the first half and he has a tendency to flap at crosses. Ingham is the better more experienced 'keeper, who was getting the right results. It was an insult, and a stupid insult at that, to drop him. Why wouldn't he get a hot drink? There was no chance of him playing, NW would probably have brought on Shaq Mcdonald as an emergency goalkeeper before playing Ingham.
Have you ever thought that the reason Ingham was dropped might not just be based on performances in matches alone? Perhaps Pope performs better in training? Perhaps Ingham is a disruptive force? Many posters were moaning about NW bringing Ty off, last night, offering their well-informed opinions about the stupidity of this, but now we learn he was injured. Things are not always as simple as they seem.
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith[/p][/quote]You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.[/p][/quote]And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really. Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking. Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test. Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope. Who kicks better? Pope. Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure. If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.[/p][/quote]Pope kicks better? Not in my books he doesn't, he could barely keep a single goal kick on the pitch in the first half and he has a tendency to flap at crosses. Ingham is the better more experienced 'keeper, who was getting the right results. It was an insult, and a stupid insult at that, to drop him. Why wouldn't he get a hot drink? There was no chance of him playing, NW would probably have brought on Shaq Mcdonald as an emergency goalkeeper before playing Ingham.[/p][/quote]Have you ever thought that the reason Ingham was dropped might not just be based on performances in matches alone? Perhaps Pope performs better in training? Perhaps Ingham is a disruptive force? Many posters were moaning about NW bringing Ty off, last night, offering their well-informed opinions about the stupidity of this, but now we learn he was injured. Things are not always as simple as they seem. Tug job

9:07pm Wed 29 Jan 14

YorkCityLuke says...

Tug job wrote:
YorkCityLuke wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith
You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.
And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really.
Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking.
Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test.
Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope.
Who kicks better? Pope.
Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure.
If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.
Pope kicks better? Not in my books he doesn't, he could barely keep a single goal kick on the pitch in the first half and he has a tendency to flap at crosses. Ingham is the better more experienced 'keeper, who was getting the right results. It was an insult, and a stupid insult at that, to drop him. Why wouldn't he get a hot drink? There was no chance of him playing, NW would probably have brought on Shaq Mcdonald as an emergency goalkeeper before playing Ingham.
Have you ever thought that the reason Ingham was dropped might not just be based on performances in matches alone? Perhaps Pope performs better in training? Perhaps Ingham is a disruptive force? Many posters were moaning about NW bringing Ty off, last night, offering their well-informed opinions about the stupidity of this, but now we learn he was injured. Things are not always as simple as they seem.
Based on the evidence we can see on the pitch, Ingham should be starting. To be honest I can imagine he does stir stuff up a bit behind the scenes, but our previous managers have managed to deal with it. I could care less if his attitude upsets NW, we looked a more solid defensive unit in the games Ingham was playing in early January.
[quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith[/p][/quote]You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.[/p][/quote]And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really. Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking. Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test. Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope. Who kicks better? Pope. Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure. If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.[/p][/quote]Pope kicks better? Not in my books he doesn't, he could barely keep a single goal kick on the pitch in the first half and he has a tendency to flap at crosses. Ingham is the better more experienced 'keeper, who was getting the right results. It was an insult, and a stupid insult at that, to drop him. Why wouldn't he get a hot drink? There was no chance of him playing, NW would probably have brought on Shaq Mcdonald as an emergency goalkeeper before playing Ingham.[/p][/quote]Have you ever thought that the reason Ingham was dropped might not just be based on performances in matches alone? Perhaps Pope performs better in training? Perhaps Ingham is a disruptive force? Many posters were moaning about NW bringing Ty off, last night, offering their well-informed opinions about the stupidity of this, but now we learn he was injured. Things are not always as simple as they seem.[/p][/quote]Based on the evidence we can see on the pitch, Ingham should be starting. To be honest I can imagine he does stir stuff up a bit behind the scenes, but our previous managers have managed to deal with it. I could care less if his attitude upsets NW, we looked a more solid defensive unit in the games Ingham was playing in early January. YorkCityLuke

9:21pm Wed 29 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

bill bailey wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
I'm fed up of GM this GM that, whats done is done. It was good while it lasted but like most managers they go stale, love him ( very few) or hate him NW is in charge. So try and get behind the team no matter how frustrating ithe game is, things cant get worse than last nights dross i hope
Fair comment TRM If they cant get behind NW who do they want to get behind,?? I certainly wouldn't want any of the previous ones ..
I see there's no takers yet ! There's no point in shovelling the dung if your not prepared to sweep up afterwards.
[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: I'm fed up of GM this GM that, whats done is done. It was good while it lasted but like most managers they go stale, love him ( very few) or hate him NW is in charge. So try and get behind the team no matter how frustrating ithe game is, things cant get worse than last nights dross i hope[/p][/quote]Fair comment TRM If they cant get behind NW who do they want to get behind,?? I certainly wouldn't want any of the previous ones ..[/p][/quote]I see there's no takers yet ! There's no point in shovelling the dung if your not prepared to sweep up afterwards. bill bailey

9:41pm Wed 29 Jan 14

23rdApril1966 says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith
You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.
And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really.
Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking.
Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test.
Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope.
Who kicks better? Pope.
Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure.
If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.
Pope kicks better? Not in my books he doesn't, he could barely keep a single goal kick on the pitch in the first half and he has a tendency to flap at crosses. Ingham is the better more experienced 'keeper, who was getting the right results. It was an insult, and a stupid insult at that, to drop him. Why wouldn't he get a hot drink? There was no chance of him playing, NW would probably have brought on Shaq Mcdonald as an emergency goalkeeper before playing Ingham.
Well I've watched many a game over the years but I'm hard pressed to remember a sub having a hot drink at HT on the pitch as though he didn't have a care in the world.
Pope's done nothing wrong, we have cried out for a keeper to come off his line and he does. On occasions it will look ungainly but there again being rooted to the line will cost more goals.
And for some to suggest Ingham is a better kicker of a ball is laughable.
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith[/p][/quote]You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.[/p][/quote]And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really. Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking. Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test. Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope. Who kicks better? Pope. Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure. If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.[/p][/quote]Pope kicks better? Not in my books he doesn't, he could barely keep a single goal kick on the pitch in the first half and he has a tendency to flap at crosses. Ingham is the better more experienced 'keeper, who was getting the right results. It was an insult, and a stupid insult at that, to drop him. Why wouldn't he get a hot drink? There was no chance of him playing, NW would probably have brought on Shaq Mcdonald as an emergency goalkeeper before playing Ingham.[/p][/quote]Well I've watched many a game over the years but I'm hard pressed to remember a sub having a hot drink at HT on the pitch as though he didn't have a care in the world. Pope's done nothing wrong, we have cried out for a keeper to come off his line and he does. On occasions it will look ungainly but there again being rooted to the line will cost more goals. And for some to suggest Ingham is a better kicker of a ball is laughable. 23rdApril1966

10:04pm Wed 29 Jan 14

23rdApril1966 says...

duffy wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
duffy wrote:
I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.
Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you.
The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire.
And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh.
I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back!
Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of.
This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters.
I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.
No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.
Duffy - total respect that's one major trek each Saturday home game! Is the footie up there really that bad? :)
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.[/p][/quote]Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.[/p][/quote]No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.[/p][/quote]Duffy - total respect that's one major trek each Saturday home game! Is the footie up there really that bad? :) 23rdApril1966

11:20pm Wed 29 Jan 14

T.R.M1974 says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
Tug job wrote:
YorkCityLuke wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith
You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.
And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really.
Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking.
Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test.
Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope.
Who kicks better? Pope.
Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure.
If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.
Pope kicks better? Not in my books he doesn't, he could barely keep a single goal kick on the pitch in the first half and he has a tendency to flap at crosses. Ingham is the better more experienced 'keeper, who was getting the right results. It was an insult, and a stupid insult at that, to drop him. Why wouldn't he get a hot drink? There was no chance of him playing, NW would probably have brought on Shaq Mcdonald as an emergency goalkeeper before playing Ingham.
Have you ever thought that the reason Ingham was dropped might not just be based on performances in matches alone? Perhaps Pope performs better in training? Perhaps Ingham is a disruptive force? Many posters were moaning about NW bringing Ty off, last night, offering their well-informed opinions about the stupidity of this, but now we learn he was injured. Things are not always as simple as they seem.
Based on the evidence we can see on the pitch, Ingham should be starting. To be honest I can imagine he does stir stuff up a bit behind the scenes, but our previous managers have managed to deal with it. I could care less if his attitude upsets NW, we looked a more solid defensive unit in the games Ingham was playing in early January.
So Ingham had a good start to January, what about the rest of the season? Don't get me wrong i think he makes good saves but for me he kicks to the other teams center half 9 times out of 10, or out of play. I think his ego will of taken a massive dent and will be looking for a move.
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith[/p][/quote]You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.[/p][/quote]And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really. Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking. Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test. Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope. Who kicks better? Pope. Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure. If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.[/p][/quote]Pope kicks better? Not in my books he doesn't, he could barely keep a single goal kick on the pitch in the first half and he has a tendency to flap at crosses. Ingham is the better more experienced 'keeper, who was getting the right results. It was an insult, and a stupid insult at that, to drop him. Why wouldn't he get a hot drink? There was no chance of him playing, NW would probably have brought on Shaq Mcdonald as an emergency goalkeeper before playing Ingham.[/p][/quote]Have you ever thought that the reason Ingham was dropped might not just be based on performances in matches alone? Perhaps Pope performs better in training? Perhaps Ingham is a disruptive force? Many posters were moaning about NW bringing Ty off, last night, offering their well-informed opinions about the stupidity of this, but now we learn he was injured. Things are not always as simple as they seem.[/p][/quote]Based on the evidence we can see on the pitch, Ingham should be starting. To be honest I can imagine he does stir stuff up a bit behind the scenes, but our previous managers have managed to deal with it. I could care less if his attitude upsets NW, we looked a more solid defensive unit in the games Ingham was playing in early January.[/p][/quote]So Ingham had a good start to January, what about the rest of the season? Don't get me wrong i think he makes good saves but for me he kicks to the other teams center half 9 times out of 10, or out of play. I think his ego will of taken a massive dent and will be looking for a move. T.R.M1974

11:25pm Wed 29 Jan 14

openallhours says...

23rdApril1966 wrote:
YorkCityLuke wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith
You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.
And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really.
Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking.
Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test.
Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope.
Who kicks better? Pope.
Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure.
If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.
Pope kicks better? Not in my books he doesn't, he could barely keep a single goal kick on the pitch in the first half and he has a tendency to flap at crosses. Ingham is the better more experienced 'keeper, who was getting the right results. It was an insult, and a stupid insult at that, to drop him. Why wouldn't he get a hot drink? There was no chance of him playing, NW would probably have brought on Shaq Mcdonald as an emergency goalkeeper before playing Ingham.
Well I've watched many a game over the years but I'm hard pressed to remember a sub having a hot drink at HT on the pitch as though he didn't have a care in the world.
Pope's done nothing wrong, we have cried out for a keeper to come off his line and he does. On occasions it will look ungainly but there again being rooted to the line will cost more goals.
And for some to suggest Ingham is a better kicker of a ball is laughable.
Sad but true about Ingham and the 'tea gate' incident (one of the lads had passed comment at the time but I wasn't really paying attention). I've said before that I regard him as a City legend but lets face it, there are certain elements to him that let him down. For example; mouthing off at his own supporters, brawling outside of a corporate sandwich bar next to a York nightclub, using social media for tantrum purposes (and calling himself 'Ingdog - maybe he meant IngGod' but spelt it incorrectly). Let's not forget that Nigel had a playing career that very few pro's achieve and perhaps some of the playing staff can't cope with that. We had a double 'new era' experience last season - the first was playing in the league, and the second was staying in the league. Whilst the football isn't pretty at the moment, lets remember that without Nigel we would be back rotting in the conference surrounded by players in the ilk of Challinor, Rodman, Henderson etc... The end of last season was a quick fix. Re-building the club will take a little longer... Out with the old and in with the new!
[quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: Last night was a joke, i'm a fan of Banjo but on the wing he looks lost. I hope Penn starts playing better soon 2 1/2 year deal? And poor Josh Carson just keeps losing form. Reed? What happened to him at Burton? Keith Lowe looks our only good player with form. Chesterfeild subs did a proper warm up at half time looked like pro's our lads kick the ball about like kids on the park. Just hope it gets better can it get any worse? Rant over ps. All the best Chris Smith[/p][/quote]You are spot on I intended to mention this in my previous posting - At half time all of the Chesterfield subs warmed up professionally accompanied by a member of their coaching team. City on the other hand allowed their subs to do their own thing without supervison. Two or three stood about and laughed and joked, while others just had a juvenile kick-about. One of them simply stood there and had a hot drink. Little things like this show which of the two teams wanted it the most. Pesonally I cant get my head around why the substitutes are not present during the half-time team talk. Surely they should be briefed as well, its their preparation for possibly going on.[/p][/quote]And the sub having a hot drink on the touch line was Michael Ingham which was pretty poor really. Why are folk calling for his return? Whilst I felt he was harshly treated in being dropped the young lad has done fine for my liking. Ingham is a good shot stopper, well Pope's save in the 5th minute was superb so he passes that test. Who comes off his line more confidently? Pope. Who kicks better? Pope. Yes on 2-3 occasions his kicking was not perfect last night but he faced some poor back passes for sure. If he loses form then Ingham will reclaim his place. Drinking a hot drink in front of the Main Stand at HT last night wasn't the brightest thing to do.[/p][/quote]Pope kicks better? Not in my books he doesn't, he could barely keep a single goal kick on the pitch in the first half and he has a tendency to flap at crosses. Ingham is the better more experienced 'keeper, who was getting the right results. It was an insult, and a stupid insult at that, to drop him. Why wouldn't he get a hot drink? There was no chance of him playing, NW would probably have brought on Shaq Mcdonald as an emergency goalkeeper before playing Ingham.[/p][/quote]Well I've watched many a game over the years but I'm hard pressed to remember a sub having a hot drink at HT on the pitch as though he didn't have a care in the world. Pope's done nothing wrong, we have cried out for a keeper to come off his line and he does. On occasions it will look ungainly but there again being rooted to the line will cost more goals. And for some to suggest Ingham is a better kicker of a ball is laughable.[/p][/quote]Sad but true about Ingham and the 'tea gate' incident (one of the lads had passed comment at the time but I wasn't really paying attention). I've said before that I regard him as a City legend but lets face it, there are certain elements to him that let him down. For example; mouthing off at his own supporters, brawling outside of a corporate sandwich bar next to a York nightclub, using social media for tantrum purposes (and calling himself 'Ingdog - maybe he meant IngGod' but spelt it incorrectly). Let's not forget that Nigel had a playing career that very few pro's achieve and perhaps some of the playing staff can't cope with that. We had a double 'new era' experience last season - the first was playing in the league, and the second was staying in the league. Whilst the football isn't pretty at the moment, lets remember that without Nigel we would be back rotting in the conference surrounded by players in the ilk of Challinor, Rodman, Henderson etc... The end of last season was a quick fix. Re-building the club will take a little longer... Out with the old and in with the new! openallhours

11:34pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Edsoni says...

23rdApril1966 wrote:
duffy wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
duffy wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.
Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.
No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.
Duffy - total respect that's one major trek each Saturday home game! Is the footie up there really that bad? :)
What a daft comment . Duffy obviously cares about York City. Why would he want to watch another team if his heart is at the Crescent. I don't always agree but I hold a true supporter in higher regard than those who seem to have other allegiances.
[quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.[/p][/quote]Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.[/p][/quote]No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.[/p][/quote]Duffy - total respect that's one major trek each Saturday home game! Is the footie up there really that bad? :)[/p][/quote]What a daft comment . Duffy obviously cares about York City. Why would he want to watch another team if his heart is at the Crescent. I don't always agree but I hold a true supporter in higher regard than those who seem to have other allegiances. Edsoni

7:46am Thu 30 Jan 14

23rdApril1966 says...

Edsoni wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
duffy wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
duffy wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.
Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.
No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.
Duffy - total respect that's one major trek each Saturday home game! Is the footie up there really that bad? :)
What a daft comment . Duffy obviously cares about York City. Why would he want to watch another team if his heart is at the Crescent. I don't always agree but I hold a true supporter in higher regard than those who seem to have other allegiances.
I think you misconstrued what I said, I do have total respect for Duffy,clearly my attempt at a wee joke at Scottish football either passed you by or offended you.
[quote][p][bold]Edsoni[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.[/p][/quote]Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.[/p][/quote]No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.[/p][/quote]Duffy - total respect that's one major trek each Saturday home game! Is the footie up there really that bad? :)[/p][/quote]What a daft comment . Duffy obviously cares about York City. Why would he want to watch another team if his heart is at the Crescent. I don't always agree but I hold a true supporter in higher regard than those who seem to have other allegiances.[/p][/quote]I think you misconstrued what I said, I do have total respect for Duffy,clearly my attempt at a wee joke at Scottish football either passed you by or offended you. 23rdApril1966

8:38am Thu 30 Jan 14

duffy says...

23rdApril1966 wrote:
Edsoni wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
duffy wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
duffy wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.
Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.
No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.
Duffy - total respect that's one major trek each Saturday home game! Is the footie up there really that bad? :)
What a daft comment . Duffy obviously cares about York City. Why would he want to watch another team if his heart is at the Crescent. I don't always agree but I hold a true supporter in higher regard than those who seem to have other allegiances.
I think you misconstrued what I said, I do have total respect for Duffy,clearly my attempt at a wee joke at Scottish football either passed you by or offended you.
I started supporting city back in the 1970s and in truth I can't support another team, I just don't get that same feeling for other clubs. It's York for me until I pop my clogs.
[quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Edsoni[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.[/p][/quote]Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.[/p][/quote]No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.[/p][/quote]Duffy - total respect that's one major trek each Saturday home game! Is the footie up there really that bad? :)[/p][/quote]What a daft comment . Duffy obviously cares about York City. Why would he want to watch another team if his heart is at the Crescent. I don't always agree but I hold a true supporter in higher regard than those who seem to have other allegiances.[/p][/quote]I think you misconstrued what I said, I do have total respect for Duffy,clearly my attempt at a wee joke at Scottish football either passed you by or offended you.[/p][/quote]I started supporting city back in the 1970s and in truth I can't support another team, I just don't get that same feeling for other clubs. It's York for me until I pop my clogs. duffy

12:26pm Thu 30 Jan 14

pip007 says...

duffy wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
Edsoni wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
duffy wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
duffy wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.
Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.
No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.
Duffy - total respect that's one major trek each Saturday home game! Is the footie up there really that bad? :)
What a daft comment . Duffy obviously cares about York City. Why would he want to watch another team if his heart is at the Crescent. I don't always agree but I hold a true supporter in higher regard than those who seem to have other allegiances.
I think you misconstrued what I said, I do have total respect for Duffy,clearly my attempt at a wee joke at Scottish football either passed you by or offended you.
I started supporting city back in the 1970s and in truth I can't support another team, I just don't get that same feeling for other clubs. It's York for me until I pop my clogs.
Respect. Lead on MacDuffy.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Edsoni[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.[/p][/quote]Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.[/p][/quote]No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.[/p][/quote]Duffy - total respect that's one major trek each Saturday home game! Is the footie up there really that bad? :)[/p][/quote]What a daft comment . Duffy obviously cares about York City. Why would he want to watch another team if his heart is at the Crescent. I don't always agree but I hold a true supporter in higher regard than those who seem to have other allegiances.[/p][/quote]I think you misconstrued what I said, I do have total respect for Duffy,clearly my attempt at a wee joke at Scottish football either passed you by or offended you.[/p][/quote]I started supporting city back in the 1970s and in truth I can't support another team, I just don't get that same feeling for other clubs. It's York for me until I pop my clogs.[/p][/quote]Respect. Lead on MacDuffy. pip007

12:28pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Boyer for England says...

yorkie42 wrote:
Our almost mid table position is misleading. Statistically, if current form continues for the rest of the season, we will finish in the bottom 2. I see no evidence that we are capable of anything better. Are Chesterield top because they have paid a fortune for better players, or do they have training methods which concentrate on a constructive passing game? NW needs to look at the video, and learn what it looks like to play attractive and successful football. In his interview he said that a good team doesn't become a bad team overnight. Nigel, we have not been a "good" team all season. The change from "good" to "bad" came the day you walked in.
Lies and Stats. If Northampton and Torquay or others lose nearly all their matches.....
[quote][p][bold]yorkie42[/bold] wrote: Our almost mid table position is misleading. Statistically, if current form continues for the rest of the season, we will finish in the bottom 2. I see no evidence that we are capable of anything better. Are Chesterield top because they have paid a fortune for better players, or do they have training methods which concentrate on a constructive passing game? NW needs to look at the video, and learn what it looks like to play attractive and successful football. In his interview he said that a good team doesn't become a bad team overnight. Nigel, we have not been a "good" team all season. The change from "good" to "bad" came the day you walked in.[/p][/quote]Lies and Stats. If Northampton and Torquay or others lose nearly all their matches..... Boyer for England

12:33pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Boyer for England says...

yorkie42 wrote:
Our almost mid table position is misleading. Statistically, if current form continues for the rest of the season, we will finish in the bottom 2. I see no evidence that we are capable of anything better. Are Chesterield top because they have paid a fortune for better players, or do they have training methods which concentrate on a constructive passing game? NW needs to look at the video, and learn what it looks like to play attractive and successful football. In his interview he said that a good team doesn't become a bad team overnight. Nigel, we have not been a "good" team all season. The change from "good" to "bad" came the day you walked in.
Lies and Stats. If Northampton and Torquay or others lose nearly all their matches.....
[quote][p][bold]yorkie42[/bold] wrote: Our almost mid table position is misleading. Statistically, if current form continues for the rest of the season, we will finish in the bottom 2. I see no evidence that we are capable of anything better. Are Chesterield top because they have paid a fortune for better players, or do they have training methods which concentrate on a constructive passing game? NW needs to look at the video, and learn what it looks like to play attractive and successful football. In his interview he said that a good team doesn't become a bad team overnight. Nigel, we have not been a "good" team all season. The change from "good" to "bad" came the day you walked in.[/p][/quote]Lies and Stats. If Northampton and Torquay or others lose nearly all their matches..... Boyer for England

12:48pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Edsoni says...

pip007 wrote:
duffy wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
Edsoni wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
duffy wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
duffy wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.
Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.
No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.
Duffy - total respect that's one major trek each Saturday home game! Is the footie up there really that bad? :)
What a daft comment . Duffy obviously cares about York City. Why would he want to watch another team if his heart is at the Crescent. I don't always agree but I hold a true supporter in higher regard than those who seem to have other allegiances.
I think you misconstrued what I said, I do have total respect for Duffy,clearly my attempt at a wee joke at Scottish football either passed you by or offended you.
I started supporting city back in the 1970s and in truth I can't support another team, I just don't get that same feeling for other clubs. It's York for me until I pop my clogs.
Respect. Lead on MacDuffy.
Alas poor Yorvik - I'm similariy afflicted.
23/4 sorry - my cranium was too low to catch your intention!
[quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Edsoni[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: I don't think I've read such a set of negative responses both on here and red and blue after a game for a very long time. Dire, antiquated football that belongs back in the 1980s coupled with real worries about the new signings, all on long contracts. Ok it's a transitional period but even the biggest Worthington fan must have some real concerns after last night.[/p][/quote]Duffy, I guess you were not there. Lucky you. The manager just lacks the personality to get you to warm to him. He kept us up so he should already be in credit with me. But he's not. He simply fails to inspire. And now all I hear is lack of mental strength.....just what does that mean? About not eating and drinking properly away from the club. Tosh,utter utter tosh. I swear to God the only thing that I've yet to hear is that we are in the middle of a 'project ' as I keep hearing about Man City and Chelsea. That would be the straw that breaks this camel 's back! Football is a game, a simple game where you assemble a group of lads who know how to control a ball, pass a ball, shoot and tackle. Then the person in charge needs to select the right team and motivate them in their job. End of. This manager is never going to cut it at York even were he to bring success, for some reason he just doesn't connect with the vast majority of the supporters. I really feel for JM. Having bankrolled the club for a decade or more last night's performance belonged on the Knavesmire.[/p][/quote]No living north of Glasgow I can't make night games, thankfully in this case.[/p][/quote]Duffy - total respect that's one major trek each Saturday home game! Is the footie up there really that bad? :)[/p][/quote]What a daft comment . Duffy obviously cares about York City. Why would he want to watch another team if his heart is at the Crescent. I don't always agree but I hold a true supporter in higher regard than those who seem to have other allegiances.[/p][/quote]I think you misconstrued what I said, I do have total respect for Duffy,clearly my attempt at a wee joke at Scottish football either passed you by or offended you.[/p][/quote]I started supporting city back in the 1970s and in truth I can't support another team, I just don't get that same feeling for other clubs. It's York for me until I pop my clogs.[/p][/quote]Respect. Lead on MacDuffy.[/p][/quote]Alas poor Yorvik - I'm similariy afflicted. 23/4 sorry - my cranium was too low to catch your intention! Edsoni

12:52pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Tiggster says...

On the subs at half-time issue, like another poster on here, I've always wondered why the subs aren't in the changing room listening to the manager's half-time talk and instructions?
Unless you are told you are coming on at the start of the 2nd half then what's the point of juvenile kick-about for 15 minutes, which is all they seem to do.
I know the changing rooms at BC are very small but at least ours is bigger than the away team room and there must be room for everyone to get changed in there so the subs could stand up if necessary. just points to a lack of inclusion and professionalism.
On the subs at half-time issue, like another poster on here, I've always wondered why the subs aren't in the changing room listening to the manager's half-time talk and instructions? Unless you are told you are coming on at the start of the 2nd half then what's the point of juvenile kick-about for 15 minutes, which is all they seem to do. I know the changing rooms at BC are very small but at least ours is bigger than the away team room and there must be room for everyone to get changed in there so the subs could stand up if necessary. just points to a lack of inclusion and professionalism. Tiggster

1:15pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Head of Bomber Command says...

Well this is Mr Worthington's second go at sorting the team out with some inept sigings during a transfer period. I have no faith what so ever that the manager is capable of taking the club forward.
He seems more than capable of spending money (not his own of course) to bring in what I can only describe as mediocrity for Div 2 at best. Lowe and Fletcher are the exception's up to now. I do not include loan players.
Good luck to Chris Smith who even through poor periods of form put himself between ball and goal.
If Danny Parslow had have been at fault for the Chesterfield goal, he would have been castigated on here.
Well this is Mr Worthington's second go at sorting the team out with some inept sigings during a transfer period. I have no faith what so ever that the manager is capable of taking the club forward. He seems more than capable of spending money (not his own of course) to bring in what I can only describe as mediocrity for Div 2 at best. Lowe and Fletcher are the exception's up to now. I do not include loan players. Good luck to Chris Smith who even through poor periods of form put himself between ball and goal. If Danny Parslow had have been at fault for the Chesterfield goal, he would have been castigated on here. Head of Bomber Command

2:50pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Robert Davro says...

Saul Deeney to York. You heard it here first.
Saul Deeney to York. You heard it here first. Robert Davro

3:48pm Thu 30 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

Robert Davro wrote:
Saul Deeney to York. You heard it here first.
Been around a bit.30, don't think so you been looking at Sky transfer pages,
I did hear a squeak Ingham could be going to City reserves, or Derry,
[quote][p][bold]Robert Davro[/bold] wrote: Saul Deeney to York. You heard it here first.[/p][/quote]Been around a bit.30, don't think so you been looking at Sky transfer pages, I did hear a squeak Ingham could be going to City reserves, or Derry, bill bailey

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