York City chief issues hard-hitting verdict after 2-0 Vale defeat

12:00pm Monday 18th March 2013 in Sport Photograph of the Author By Dave Flett, Sports reporter

York City’s dejected players, from left, John McGrath, Michael Rankine and Paddy McLaughlin ponder where it all went wrong after a 2-0 home defeat by Port Vale left the Minstermen one point off the bottom of npower League Two York City’s dejected players, from left, John McGrath, Michael Rankine and Paddy McLaughlin ponder where it all went wrong after a 2-0 home defeat by Port Vale left the Minstermen one point off the bottom of npower League Two

YORK City manager Nigel Worthington has demanded that underperforming players must stop short-changing supporters and show a willingness to keep the club in the Football League.

The 19th-placed Minstermen have now gone 14 games without a win following Saturday’s 2-0 home defeat to Port Vale with the five teams below them all just a single point behind.

Of that group, Accrington Stanley, Plymouth, Torquay and Barnet will all play their game in hand on City tomorrow night, meaning the club’s situation could worsen prior to Saturday’s crucial trip to Torquay.

And Worthington made it clear that he will not accept any more displays like the one against promotion hopefuls Vale during the final seven games of the season, saying: “It’s a man’s game and Saturday looked like boys against men.

“People are paying their hard-earned money coming to support the team and what they got back was simply not good enough. If I said anything else, everybody would think I was off my rocker.

“I’ve been in the game long enough to know when I am getting sold short and when players are not performing. It’s a big test and it will be interesting to see who stands up to it.

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“We need self-belief and a willingness, which is probably at the top of the list, to keep York City in the League. A lot of players are out of contract in the summer and maybe it’s easy for them to under-perform and walk away and not worry about where York City will be next season but that’s not good enough.

“They are getting paid by this club and by the supporters. They have got to repay that with results.”

As well as sympathising with distressed supporters, Worthington added that he felt for the McGill family, arguing that the club owners’ commitment to the cause deserved to be matched by the team.

“They have put a lot of time, commitment and finances into the football club,” he pointed out.

“I’ve told the players I can live with a defeat as long as I see commitment, passion and a willingness to try to win the game but none of those words came into play (on Saturday).”

Worthington did add, however, that the defeat against Port Vale had revealed a lot about his inherited squad during his third game in charge – two of which have ended in defeat either side of a 0-0 draw against Rochdale.

He said: “The performance was not good enough from minute one to minute 90 but I am learning all the time about the players and I learned a hell of a lot about their character and make-up from that game.

“I’m starting to understand why they are in the position they are in but I can’t go out and sign a Robin van Persie, Wayne Rooney, Patrice Evra or Paul Scholes and what we have in that dressing room has got to pull together to get us out of the situation we find ourselves in.

“Before you know it, it will be the last game of the season so whatever we are going to do needs to be done in the right manner sharpish. We need strong characters and leaders in the dressing room and we will now find out whether we have got them.

“It’s a fantastic challenge and I am up for it but I don’t think there’s ever been one person that can do it on their own.”

Worthington also dismissed any suggestions that Saturday’s loss could be attributed to the 4-4-2 formation he has fielded during the last two game.

His predecessor Gary Mills played 4-3-3 for almost the entirety of his two-and-a-half year reign but Worthington stressed: “Football is a simple game – you pass the ball and keep it.

“You pass and then move but I was looking at some of the players (on Saturday) and there was no energy in their legs. They were struggling to run.

“Yes, the pitch was heavy but it was heavy for Port Vale as well. I saw white shirts getting to the ball in the penalty box before red ones and that’s nothing to do with formations – it’s about mental strength and we looked short of that.

“But I cannot go out and buy bags of that either. We’ve got to find it in the coming weeks to get us out of this predicament.”

On-loan Ipswich Town winger Josh Carson was given his full debut against Vale and even finished the match at left-back after a struggling Jamal Fyfield was withdrawn.

Worthington added that he would also consider playing the Northern Ireland international at full-back again if needs must.

On Carson’s performance, the City boss said: “He kept going and, when he went to left-back, he did quite well. He was nice and steady but we’ve got to get the ball to him and we’ve also got to get it out to Ash Chambers and Matty Blair to give ourselves a fighting chance but some of the decision-making was horrendous.

“Hopefully, Lanre Oyebanjo and David McGurk will be ready to come back in now but we still have a problem in those attacking areas.”

Tomorrow’s games: Accrington v AFC Wimbledon, Southend v Plymouth, Torquay v Chesterfield, Barnet v Fleetwood.

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duffy says...
12:13pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Well he tells it like it is, the players have to stand up and be counted and not hide behind formation changes or a change of manager. In a way its the type of things Mills should probably have been saying three months ago.

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pip007 says...
12:17pm Mon 18 Mar 13

That photo speaks volumes. Hapless and clueless. And more importantly leaderless. This team needs an injection of passion and determination. Nigel can give it - his attempts at motivating the team are perfunctory because he, like some of the players, can walk away if all goes wrong. But Jason and Sophie can do it. They have the passion and commitment that's needed. Get in there Jason and give this team the Mel Gibson Braveheart speech! Let them know what you've done for the club and what it means to everyone. Meanwhile, Wimbledon, Southend, Chesterfield and Fleetwood - you know what you've got to do on Tuesday!

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pip007 says...
12:18pm Mon 18 Mar 13

I meant to type 'Nigel can't give it ...'

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nearlyman says...
12:19pm Mon 18 Mar 13

I'm sure he probably was !............

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pip007 says...
12:25pm Mon 18 Mar 13

And it's 'we' Nigel ... not 'they'!

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openallhours says...
12:33pm Mon 18 Mar 13

It's very refreshing to hear a City manager point out that the supporters are being short changed... I made this point ages ago.

Tomorrow's fixtures are massive for us so fingers crossed they'll go the right way.

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walwynwasgod says...
12:33pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Nigel... Unfortunately, we cannot "live with a defeat" under any circumstances at present ! Passing the ball usually works if the ball is kept on the ground. Other than that, you're quite right. A massive improvement is needed in the remaining matches.

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duffy says...
12:36pm Mon 18 Mar 13

walwynwasgod wrote:
Nigel... Unfortunately, we cannot "live with a defeat" under any circumstances at present ! Passing the ball usually works if the ball is kept on the ground. Other than that, you're quite right. A massive improvement is needed in the remaining matches.
Passing the ball on the ground has not been working since around last November looking at the results. We need to get out of this mindset that carrying on knocking the ball around in midfield and producing nothing was going to pay off in the end.

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pip007 says...
12:44pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Fans arrested for fighting in city centre? Put City shirts on them and get them on that pitch! They're the only people who seem to want to fight.

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RooBeck says...
1:10pm Mon 18 Mar 13

pip007 wrote:
That photo speaks volumes. Hapless and clueless. And more importantly leaderless. This team needs an injection of passion and determination. Nigel can give it - his attempts at motivating the team are perfunctory because he, like some of the players, can walk away if all goes wrong. But Jason and Sophie can do it. They have the passion and commitment that's needed. Get in there Jason and give this team the Mel Gibson Braveheart speech! Let them know what you've done for the club and what it means to everyone. Meanwhile, Wimbledon, Southend, Chesterfield and Fleetwood - you know what you've got to do on Tuesday!
Think he then went on to "sack" York, so we need to re-write this a little bit (like they did in the film), so that after the speech, we then go on to sack Accrington, Aldershot, Plymouth and Torquay - any two of those four will do!! COYR.

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Phil, Leeds says...
1:10pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Spot on comments Nigel. It's all about passion and commitment now but he'll do well to find 11 players with enough of that over the last 7 games. We are the Club in freefall and often 1 of the teams that goes down has slipped from a mid table position, we have no momentum. Really hope that McGurk and Lanre are fit for the Torquay game.
I wonder who are those players that we have who really care? Do we have 11 of them? Time to find out.

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OLD - HEAD says...
1:16pm Mon 18 Mar 13

I hope the Managers statement gets through to the players. After almost sixty years of going to Bootham Crescent I have seen many poor York City teams, so the current situation is nothing new. But the one thing which makes you want to keep going back is the hope that our luck will change and we will start winning again. But to be honest the current performances are just about as bad as they can get and many fans are losing hope. Perhaps it would be a good thing if we did drop into one of the relegation spots on Tuesday night. Then perhaps everyone would get that proverbial "Kick up the A***". We can not rely on other teams results, the time has come to stand up and fight!

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walwynwasgod says...
1:19pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Duffy

What i was trying to say is that if Nigel wants us to pass the ball, i'm sure it is easier to pass the ball on the ground, rather than boot the ball aimlessly. I agree the pretty football wasn't working, but time is running out and i've not seen much change as yet. I don't care what style of football we play between now and the end of the season as long as we stay up.

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walwynwasgod says...
1:26pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Scott Kerr must be dropped. It's a shame for Scott, but he's not been the same since his injury. McGrath has shown some fight since he came. Chris Smith has shown passion in the last few games. Unfortunately, i don't see a lot of passion in most of the team at present. Will be interesting to see who he brings in on loan. I expected Carson to be a bit more positive on Saturday, and he finishes the game at Left back.

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paddymacwakey says...
1:33pm Mon 18 Mar 13

listening to worthingtons comments on the way home on saturday,he was bang on with everything he said we havnt got a leader out there.some players are not living up to there potential.and to me,those players that are letting us down,are those to get us goals to win matches,such as blair,walker,and chambers,who has not been the same player since he came back from injury.we need to start finding the back of the net quickly,starting at torquay.worthington also said some players had no pace.he has got to change the midfield.mcgrath and kerr same type of player,and ageing.i would bring in mclaughlin,potts with carson.a lot of people keep saying we have stepped up into the league with a conference side,and mills has made some duff signings,but as i have seen just about every team in this league,at least half of them are no better than blue square teams.the simple truth is that the players who got us into the football league have underperformed massivly,and now the whole team in the last 7 games have got to give 100 per cent and bust a gut for this football club.just one more thing mr worthington,try and get,what we have been lacking from the start of the season,and that is a goalscorer,and we wouldnt be in the mess that we are in now.

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rogue84 says...
1:35pm Mon 18 Mar 13

huge evening tomorrow, if all results go against us we'd only be kept off the bottom by having scored more goals than Aldershot. alternatively each team could lose and we are back to square one with what is now a 7-game season.
i never expected to get anything from Port Vale to be honest, they have a frontline of Tom Pope and Lee Hughes for goodness sake, light years ahead of us.
but games against Torquay, Bristol Rovers, Plymouth, Accrington, Southend and Dagenham are the ones we should be trying to get points in if we are to give oursleves a fighting chance (I don't fancy us getting anything whatsoever at Northampton).

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DavidBu says...
1:59pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Does anybody remember the first 30 minutes of the home game against Fleetwood last backend? A York team of "conference players" took a team of professional hardmen apart and, but for the inability to score at all, could have been in double figures!
Imagine the dint in the players' confidence which must have followed on from losing that game, the first dint of many, to the point where we now find ourselves. GM never seemed to lose confidence in those players, even as it was all ebbing away; NW now says he has lost his confidence already. I don't know; his verbal shock tactics might do the trick, they might not. How many fingers do we all have, collectively to cross?
We can only look forward. If ever YCFC needed the inspiration of a manager and the love of its fans and thoughts of its wellwishers, it's going to be this week.

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Yorkalltheway1 says...
2:17pm Mon 18 Mar 13

The weird thing is that most of the players have started the season together and we was winning games all started going wrong since feb? I mean it's the same team that got us up so should no what the fans expect! And what it means to use fans!

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walwynwasgod says...
2:46pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Teams are a lot more organised in League 2 than they are in the Conference. We don't seem to know how to find the net whatever style we play. We're not even creating chances at present, so the talk of bringing in new strikers in is ok, but only if we sign a creative Midfielder to provide the chances. Ranks is no Big Keith. Walker was on his own with Mills at the helm, and now the long ball does not suit his game. I feel a bit for the lad. Reed is not the answer. Didn't really set Cambridge alight during his loan there. This is a big challenge for Worthington. You can see what he's trying to do. Let's see if he brings the players in capable to adapt to his style.

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ian923 says...
2:46pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Ingham, Banjo, McGurk, Smith, O'Conell, McGrath , Potts, Carson, McLaughlin-defence and midfield sorted but who do you play up front? If hoofball it's got to be Rankine + 1. If it's football could be Blair and Walker or even Chambers. Please don't play any more hoofball and let these players play the game they know. Nothing to lose -please make them practice shooting outside and around the box as well this week.

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pip007 says...
3:30pm Mon 18 Mar 13

RooBeck wrote:
pip007 wrote:
That photo speaks volumes. Hapless and clueless. And more importantly leaderless. This team needs an injection of passion and determination. Nigel can give it - his attempts at motivating the team are perfunctory because he, like some of the players, can walk away if all goes wrong. But Jason and Sophie can do it. They have the passion and commitment that's needed. Get in there Jason and give this team the Mel Gibson Braveheart speech! Let them know what you've done for the club and what it means to everyone. Meanwhile, Wimbledon, Southend, Chesterfield and Fleetwood - you know what you've got to do on Tuesday!
Think he then went on to "sack" York, so we need to re-write this a little bit (like they did in the film), so that after the speech, we then go on to sack Accrington, Aldershot, Plymouth and Torquay - any two of those four will do!! COYR.
Now I can't get rid of the picture of Mel Gibson rampaging around Accrington causing mayhem!

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Phil, Leeds says...
3:32pm Mon 18 Mar 13

DavidBu wrote:
Does anybody remember the first 30 minutes of the home game against Fleetwood last backend? A York team of "conference players" took a team of professional hardmen apart and, but for the inability to score at all, could have been in double figures!
Imagine the dint in the players' confidence which must have followed on from losing that game, the first dint of many, to the point where we now find ourselves. GM never seemed to lose confidence in those players, even as it was all ebbing away; NW now says he has lost his confidence already. I don't know; his verbal shock tactics might do the trick, they might not. How many fingers do we all have, collectively to cross?
We can only look forward. If ever YCFC needed the inspiration of a manager and the love of its fans and thoughts of its wellwishers, it's going to be this week.
I was talking about those first 20 minutes or so of the Fleetwood game to a couple of supporters at the game on Saturday. We were magnificent but the reason for our demise was captured perfectly during that spell - we failed to score from 7 or 8 really decent chances, and that sums up our season. Mills persisted far too long with Walker and other misfiring forwards and we're paying the price for those selection errors now. The Board must sanction the bringing in of at least 1 decent striker and an energetic midfielder. Surely Worthington has enough contacts in the game to get some quality in until the end of the season.

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pip007 says...
3:45pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Thinking back over the years ... if you could magically bring in any of our strikers from past teams to get us out of this fix who would you go for?

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pip007 says...
3:51pm Mon 18 Mar 13

I’d pick 2 from: Keith Walwyn, Jimmy Seal, Chris Jones, Paul Aimson, Paul Barnes, John Byrne, Arthur Bottom. I'm probably missing a few. And I'd get Denis Smith, Barry Swallow and Chris Topping at the back. If only ...

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tips says...
3:53pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Arthur Bottom Paul Aimson Keith Walwyn Paul Barnes........how's that for starters?

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paddymacwakey says...
4:03pm Mon 18 Mar 13

oh for ted mcdougall and phil boyer

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Kitkateater says...
4:18pm Mon 18 Mar 13

We desperately need at least one striker. Although you will never lose a game if your defence keeps all goals out, the best you can achieve is a draw. The only way to win games is to score more goals than the opposition. I do feel a bit sorry for the players at the moment. I can't believe that any player wants to play badly, but they probably don't know whether they're on their heads or their a***s at the moment. Changing formations, going from trying to play good football to let's bypass the midfield and hoof it over the top. The thing we as fans can do to help, is to get behind them, try and help their obvious lack of confidence, so come on York fans for these last few games don't get at them on this site, and at the games try not to groan when a pass goes awry ( yes I know sometimes its easier said than done), sing, clap whatever is needed to help OUR players and to make the opposition jittery. By the way not totally impressed by NW trying to distance himself from the problem by using they instead of us and blaming the players totally.

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arsene.about.york says...
4:25pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Ah, all this nostalgia isn't what it used to be. But I would settle for going back 30 years and swapping this lot en masse for Denis Smith's team. Oh, happy days.

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rogue84 says...
4:26pm Mon 18 Mar 13

I agree with the above, but I would throw Clayton Donaldson in as well, pure pace, terrified defenders, extremely athletic....he would be a god-send right now.

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pip007 says...
4:32pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Brodie anyone?

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duffy says...
4:35pm Mon 18 Mar 13

walwynwasgod wrote:
Duffy

What i was trying to say is that if Nigel wants us to pass the ball, i'm sure it is easier to pass the ball on the ground, rather than boot the ball aimlessly. I agree the pretty football wasn't working, but time is running out and i've not seen much change as yet. I don't care what style of football we play between now and the end of the season as long as we stay up.
Yes looking back I misread your posting, my apologies.

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Mad for Minstermen says...
4:49pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Saturdays team played as though they were already relegated, devoid of passion and belief. Heads dropped as soon as Vale scored. This is exactly the same response as the Brass relegated team. As soon as they went a goal behind there was no belief that the team could actually score to bring it back level. Need a striker with get up and go ASAP please.

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redwhiteblue says...
4:54pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Rankine and Rodman - Aldershot players - McGarth - Burton player - all three couldn't get into their respective sides - why should they expect to get into our side. Have they been sent to scupper us? Loan players this week should come from sides in Div 1 or above - quality is required not dross this time. Players who can help the younger players in the side, they've got to be better than what we have got on loan. We can only play five loan players - the three mentioned should be sent packing - lets get in some quality - a couple of strickers would be perfect.

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nearlyman says...
5:09pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Tony Canham was a grafter !!

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Phil, Leeds says...
5:10pm Mon 18 Mar 13

From recent years definitely Clayton Donaldson. Further back MacDougall, Aimson, Boyer, Barnes, Walwyn. What names. Even Kevin McMahon or Tommy Ross would do!

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pip007 says...
5:17pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Not for the faint of heart: http://bit.ly/1530pU
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uhtred says...
5:18pm Mon 18 Mar 13

pip007 wrote:
I’d pick 2 from: Keith Walwyn, Jimmy Seal, Chris Jones, Paul Aimson, Paul Barnes, John Byrne, Arthur Bottom. I'm probably missing a few. And I'd get Denis Smith, Barry Swallow and Chris Topping at the back. If only ...
Barry Swallow? How quickly memories fade!!!!!!!!!!

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pip007 says...
5:49pm Mon 18 Mar 13

uhtred wrote:
pip007 wrote:
I’d pick 2 from: Keith Walwyn, Jimmy Seal, Chris Jones, Paul Aimson, Paul Barnes, John Byrne, Arthur Bottom. I'm probably missing a few. And I'd get Denis Smith, Barry Swallow and Chris Topping at the back. If only ...
Barry Swallow? How quickly memories fade!!!!!!!!!!
It should be quite obvious that I'm talking about the ability to defend on the football pitch.

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RooBeck says...
6:14pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Come on everyone - we aren't going to go straight back down - we are going to get between eleven and twelve points, from the twenty one available. Nigel, you have provided your analysis and it is not altogether far wide of the mark BUT, get this squad to lift their heads and play to their full potential and remember, if you and the players do keep us up, you will all automatically go to super-hero status and inherit a beautiful, new stadium and fresh start for our club. So, make it happen! COYR.

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duffy says...
6:16pm Mon 18 Mar 13

RooBeck wrote:
Come on everyone - we aren't going to go straight back down - we are going to get between eleven and twelve points, from the twenty one available. Nigel, you have provided your analysis and it is not altogether far wide of the mark BUT, get this squad to lift their heads and play to their full potential and remember, if you and the players do keep us up, you will all automatically go to super-hero status and inherit a beautiful, new stadium and fresh start for our club. So, make it happen! COYR.
12 points from 21. God can I have a pint of what your drinking, that's optimism gone mad.

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Realistic ycfc says...
6:30pm Mon 18 Mar 13

pip007 wrote:
Brodie anyone?
Errrrrmmm let me think, how about no, what's he done in league 2? He's like most of this squad, not a league player

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RooBeck says...
6:33pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Guinness- it's Irish and get your head up pal - no more deep rooted dissection and analysis - time for some faith! We can do it - COYR.

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brahma says...
6:37pm Mon 18 Mar 13

pip007 wrote:
uhtred wrote:
pip007 wrote:
I’d pick 2 from: Keith Walwyn, Jimmy Seal, Chris Jones, Paul Aimson, Paul Barnes, John Byrne, Arthur Bottom. I'm probably missing a few. And I'd get Denis Smith, Barry Swallow and Chris Topping at the back. If only ...
Barry Swallow? How quickly memories fade!!!!!!!!!!
It should be quite obvious that I'm talking about the ability to defend on the football pitch.
Even Barry Swallow in his pomp couldn't "defend on a football pitch" if he'd already sneakily converted it to ready cash and allowed someone to build houses on it.

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kirbylad says...
7:11pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Please Nigel W. you have had 3 games to sort out the crap act now to stop the rot bring in the right players to keep us in lge 2 and you will be my hero.p.s.the players just going through the motions you will be on the dole next season.

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YO1 says...
8:26pm Mon 18 Mar 13

It's the job of a skilled manager to get the best out of the existing workforce. Anyone who has ever managed people knows that you don't walk into the factory/ hospital/ shop floor and tell the current staff they are absolutely useless and are going to be replaced, then expect them to improve the performance of the organisation.

NW has already increase the staff wages bill by recalling all the loan players who have already failed at the club and recruited two new players. The current staff cant be replaced until the end of the season, yet all NW has done is alienate the people he is trying to get to perform for him.

There is no question that the previous manager had to go. However the new manager has achieved only one point in three games, averaging one shot on target per game.

Blaming the staff is the crude method of an incompetent manager who doesnt have the ability to get them to perform. His appointment has been a car crash so far, with performances even worse than the last manager. Unfortunately the evidence suggests he and the players will take us down and be seeking employment elsewhere next season.

I'd like to be blindly optimistic but the evidence results and performances suggest we are currently the worse team in the league.

The previous manger

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chuchill says...
8:37pm Mon 18 Mar 13

The dust is settling and I still believe we did not think this out properly and all pull altogether. Although we were not playing as we had before we were unlucky with some of our results,some supporters got straight on GMs back after Morecombe which then put the players on hot bricks and before we new it a month had passed and now in total freefall ! Surely reassurance and equal understanding on pulling together not putting people in isolation and we would not now be in this mess now. Fingers crossed but now I think we will have to look forward starting again in BSC.

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ADAMCUTHBERT says...
8:53pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Paul Stancliffe was a non sense midfielder! Could do with one or 2 of him rite now!

We need a couple of hard so and so's!

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OLD - HEAD says...
8:57pm Mon 18 Mar 13

RooBeck wrote:
Come on everyone - we aren't going to go straight back down - we are going to get between eleven and twelve points, from the twenty one available. Nigel, you have provided your analysis and it is not altogether far wide of the mark BUT, get this squad to lift their heads and play to their full potential and remember, if you and the players do keep us up, you will all automatically go to super-hero status and inherit a beautiful, new stadium and fresh start for our club. So, make it happen! COYR.
Nice rallying call. A few weeks ago you might have convinced me. But sorry this is just your heart over ruling your head. If only it was going to be that simple. I talked to quite a few City fans last night, and if I could have shown them a copy of this posting, it might just have lifted some of the gloom. But obviously we all hope that your prediction comes true. .

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ADAMCUTHBERT says...
8:58pm Mon 18 Mar 13

ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:
Paul Stancliffe was a non sense midfielder! Could do with one or 2 of him rite now!

We need a couple of hard so and so's!
Centre half even!

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ADAMCUTHBERT says...
9:15pm Mon 18 Mar 13

ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:
ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:
Paul Stancliffe was a non sense midfielder! Could do with one or 2 of him rite now!

We need a couple of hard so and so's!
Centre half even!
No non sense! You get the point lol

For F sake lads sort it out! Starting Saturday!

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nudger says...
9:39pm Mon 18 Mar 13

The FLP has a 6-game form guide and the three teams just off the bottom, Torquay, Port Vale and Rochdale,are,as luck would have it, our most recent opponents.Unfortunat
ely,we are the side below them propping up the table.
The Paper also looks at how sapping and confidence-draining a negative home crowd can be. And the side identified as having the biggest problem of a toxic home crowd .... Luton Town. 'what comes around,goes around' as they say.

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rupertbehr says...
9:44pm Mon 18 Mar 13

.........It's a confidence problem !!!
Not necessarily a player problem, (remember Rotherham)
and that my friends ......
was / is Millsy's Forte !!!

Two from the past, to enhance this team ...... It's a no brainer
Big Keith up front with Dennis at the back .....Confidence personified.

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Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...
10:07pm Mon 18 Mar 13

So people are saying our players are "conference players" and "no good for this league" etc.. Hang on a minute, so every club who have come up from the conference in recent seasons have dumped all their players and bought new ones, I don't think so. The players adapt but the proplem with ours they haven't. Maybe its been down to bad management, I don't know but something went wrong at the start of November. I wasn't there on Saturday but I saw the highlights and what a header from Scott Kerr to set up Port Vales 1st goal. I've been saying it for weeeks now about Scott Kerr he is annoying me, he needs a rest brought in far to quick after his injury, same with Chambers, same with McGurk. That steams from not having a reserve team.
Lets stop bickering,pointing the finger at anyone we can blame for this mess and lets get behind the team and we will stay up.

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PhilR@Strike says...
10:53pm Mon 18 Mar 13

On current form, I can't see any of the teams below us winning their game in hand Tuesday evening. Hope that's not famous last words? Mind still all to do come Saturday. Best foot forward and never say die attitude needed! Come on Lads, do us proud!

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PositiveFootball says...
11:27pm Mon 18 Mar 13

Maybe it has taken these three games for players to get into a new system. This is the phase usually accomplished in pre season training. Unfortunately City players are having to face established systems in which teams have settled since the beginning of the season. Hopefully, the players will now adapt to the NW way and start to pick up the points.

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GreenshawGrinder says...
12:26am Tue 19 Mar 13

Well said Nigel, do the players expect a pat on the back or a nice cuddle! We need players in the team who care. Sadly this has been lacking for a long time. Some players seem to be just going through the motions, most of them are out of contract at the end of the season, do they still want a job in football? Still time for this to change, there are five other teams in the deep brown stuff.

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101 points 83-84 says...
12:29am Tue 19 Mar 13

A player from the past who could do the business for us now is Cresswell. He was linked with a move earlier the season and commented at the time that he was flattered to be mentioned. He's not played for Sheffield Utd regularly. He lives in York, clearly still has affinity for club, strong and brave.I am guessing he would love to end his career where it started and give something back to this great club.

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YoRkIe59 says...
1:28am Tue 19 Mar 13

yeah Cresswell would be great for us right now.his goals would have kept us up that season had we at least held onto him till the end of the season.for me tho big Keith Walwyn with Paul Barnes feeding off the chaos you could garantee Keith causing,meanwhile back to reality,any 11 players who are willing fight like hell to stop us going back down again.

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Bernard111 says...
6:08am Tue 19 Mar 13

Richard Cresswell on loan ?

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Bernard111 says...
7:11am Tue 19 Mar 13

Yes Richard Cresswell has signed on loan.

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whats the word says...
7:57am Tue 19 Mar 13

duffy wrote:
Well he tells it like it is, the players have to stand up and be counted and not hide behind formation changes or a change of manager. In a way its the type of things Mills should probably have been saying three months ago.
Mills probably was . Stain.

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whats the word says...
8:09am Tue 19 Mar 13

Sacking a manager with 10 games left , 4 points from bottom 2 and yet to play 4 teams below us.
Is a major reason for a continued decline.
Now we have no leader on the pitch ? What happened to Kerr being this superstar midfield general ?
City fans are too fickle to deserve a league club at this moment.
The only reaction from the club owners appears to be making bad choices at the wrong time.
From the very begining.e

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duffy says...
8:11am Tue 19 Mar 13

whats the word wrote:
duffy wrote:
Well he tells it like it is, the players have to stand up and be counted and not hide behind formation changes or a change of manager. In a way its the type of things Mills should probably have been saying three months ago.
Mills probably was . Stain.
He didn't.

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duffy says...
8:14am Tue 19 Mar 13

whats the word wrote:
Sacking a manager with 10 games left , 4 points from bottom 2 and yet to play 4 teams below us.
Is a major reason for a continued decline.
Now we have no leader on the pitch ? What happened to Kerr being this superstar midfield general ?
City fans are too fickle to deserve a league club at this moment.
The only reaction from the club owners appears to be making bad choices at the wrong time.
From the very begining.e
You don't need to keep changing your user name Yabba. You have the right to your views, don't be ashamed of them.

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Yorkalltheway1 says...
9:34am Tue 19 Mar 13

Ye cresswell coming and heard they trying to get greening aswel

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Sir Alex says...
9:51am Tue 19 Mar 13

I have just looked at the team sheet from New Years Day (3 nil v Burton). The lads did so well that day - what has happened? We need an experienced head or two out there - its got to be a confidence thing.
Accy plus loser of our match Saturday to go down I think.

C'mon lads - its a cup final!!

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Yorkieroy60 says...
10:01am Tue 19 Mar 13

ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:
ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:
Paul Stancliffe was a non sense midfielder! Could do with one or 2 of him rite now!

We need a couple of hard so and so's!
Centre half even!
John Mcphail best centre half City have had on their books had everything and there was no one tougher!

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redbluelion says...
11:27am Tue 19 Mar 13

Yorkieroy60 wrote:
ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:
ADAMCUTHBERT wrote: Paul Stancliffe was a non sense midfielder! Could do with one or 2 of him rite now! We need a couple of hard so and so's!
Centre half even!
John Mcphail best centre half City have had on their books had everything and there was no one tougher!
yes john mc and ricky s our best defence partnership ever..

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YoRkIe59 says...
11:39am Tue 19 Mar 13

someone mentioned Greening where is he now and how old will be be?.first class player mind you.

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whats the word says...
1:06pm Tue 19 Mar 13

duffy wrote:
whats the word wrote:
Sacking a manager with 10 games left , 4 points from bottom 2 and yet to play 4 teams below us.
Is a major reason for a continued decline.
Now we have no leader on the pitch ? What happened to Kerr being this superstar midfield general ?
City fans are too fickle to deserve a league club at this moment.
The only reaction from the club owners appears to be making bad choices at the wrong time.
From the very begining.e
You don't need to keep changing your user name Yabba. You have the right to your views, don't be ashamed of them.
I haven't. Orical

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Yorkieroy60 says...
1:58pm Tue 19 Mar 13

redbluelion wrote:
Yorkieroy60 wrote:
ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:
ADAMCUTHBERT wrote: Paul Stancliffe was a non sense midfielder! Could do with one or 2 of him rite now! We need a couple of hard so and so's!
Centre half even!
John Mcphail best centre half City have had on their books had everything and there was no one tougher!
yes john mc and ricky s our best defence partnership ever..
Correct! Mcphail and Ricky Sbragia were immaculate together!

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Peppa07 says...
6:52pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Anyone in Denis Smith's era would help right now! I like the nostalgia in this thread - keeps us from thinking about the car crash going on this year! Walwyn was the best goal scorer I ever saw playing for York, and that team also played great football. If Ian Rush had had an off-day we'd have beaten Liverpool!! Houchen, Sbragia, Byrne...all wonderful!! If this lot get the 12 points we need we can go back to remembering last year and forget this one!! COYR!

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