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York City sign midfielder Josh Carson on loan (From York Press)
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York City sign midfielder Josh Carson on loan
9:57am Thursday 14th March 2013 in Sport
YORK City have signed attacking midfielder Josh Carson on loan from Ipswich Town.
The 19-year-old, who can play in midfield or wide on the left or right, is a Northern Ireland international and becomes manager Nigel Worthington's second signing for the Minstermen.
Comments(54)
Some old bloke
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10:38am Thu 14 Mar 13
CaptainCreosote wrote:Maybe the manager is only using that tactic because he doesn't feel that the present attacking midfielders have the strength or presence to be effective in that area.
Is it just me - but isn't it someone who knows where the onion bag is, what we need ?.The way we play now seems to bypass the midfield.
Potts and McLaughlin have had their moments but have not been consistent. McReady is certainly one for the future but NW has stated that he doesn't think the present situation is right for young players (and the other two aren't exactly veterans).
Oh, I've just noticed that the new bloke is 19, so forget what I just said - or maybe he's just very good!
It will be interesting to see the tactics on Saturday.
CaptainCreosote
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10:41am Thu 14 Mar 13
YCFC am byth
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10:42am Thu 14 Mar 13
Dortmun
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10:49am Thu 14 Mar 13
CaptainCreosote wrote:Yawn Yawn Yawn
If I look into my crystal ball I think I can see it, wait a minute, yes - its hoofball. Route one, which is fine if we explain to the front 2 how it works. Fingers crossed time
haveapasty
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10:51am Thu 14 Mar 13
Al-YCFC
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10:54am Thu 14 Mar 13
Mad for Minstermen
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10:58am Thu 14 Mar 13
Al-YCFC wrote:Spot on, it's all about survival now. If goofball wins games, then for the rest of this season that would be good enough. The gaffer needs to protect our league status at all costs and sort the squad out proper in the summer months.
To be completely honest I couldn't care less how they play, who plays or who doesn't. For now until the end of the season it is about survival. Next season, ye, think about playing nice football again. Not now.
York Manor
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11:18am Thu 14 Mar 13
bill bailey
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11:19am Thu 14 Mar 13
king-albert
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11:26am Thu 14 Mar 13
CaptainCreosote wrote:Or you could have said -
If I look into my crystal ball I think I can see it, wait a minute, yes - its hoofball. Route one, which is fine if we explain to the front 2 how it works. Fingers crossed time
Welcome to York City Josh. We have a big challenge ahead of us, but you can rely on our support and encouragement, because we are all in this together.
Sorry - nearly forgot - FACT
CaptainCreosote
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11:33am Thu 14 Mar 13
captain nemo
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11:40am Thu 14 Mar 13
Dortmun
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11:48am Thu 14 Mar 13
CaptainCreosote wrote:Don't make silly comments then
My response was not meant to be disparaging towards Mr Carson - whom I wish well. Merely a response to the question of what tactics might be employed by NW on Saturday. I will be offering my full support at every match I can between now and the end of April. You are right we are all in this together
IntelXXX
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11:51am Thu 14 Mar 13
CaptainCreosote wrote:I take it you didn't go on Tuesday night? I agree it was more route one than we are used to witnessing but the creation in midfield was non existent. The wing play and crossing was abysmal. Even one of our corners was straight out of the John Smiths Sunday morning league and that’s an insult to them.
Is it just me - but isn't it someone who knows where the onion bag is, what we need ?.The way we play now seems to bypass the midfield.
CaptainCreosote
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11:54am Thu 14 Mar 13
duffy
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11:56am Thu 14 Mar 13
Dortmun wrote:Just a weird guy.
CaptainCreosote wrote: If I look into my crystal ball I think I can see it, wait a minute, yes - its hoofball. Route one, which is fine if we explain to the front 2 how it works. Fingers crossed timeYawn Yawn Yawn
CaptainCreosote
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11:59am Thu 14 Mar 13
CaptainCreosote
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12:01pm Thu 14 Mar 13
IntelXXX
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12:09pm Thu 14 Mar 13
bill bailey wrote:I have heard similiar reports form a friend of mine who supports Ipswich.
The lad is quality.
duffy
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12:43pm Thu 14 Mar 13
CaptainCreosote wrote:How about we just support Worthington and wait until the end of the season and see if he keeps us up ?
Duffy - should we wait 'til after Saturday to see if I am "weird"
I could not care less how we play until then if we are still a league club. The Mills style was was not working and its time to move on and not put extra pressure on a man that could be the difference between still having a football club long term or not.
YorkCityLuke
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1:00pm Thu 14 Mar 13
duffy wrote:You're clearly right, in that nobody will mind if he keeps us up playing ugly football. And you're right that he needs support. But he's managed us for 2 matches now, and both of them have been very poor, negative displays by almost all accounts. Normally, you wouldn't be able to judge anything from 2 games, but he only has 10 games to see us to safety - that's 1/5th of the games played, and no real improvement. He has a tough task, but he knew that when he took the job - in my opinion, tuesday (and last saturday) were simply not good enough and the buck stops with him now. It's true that Mills' passing football wasn't working, and hadn't been for a while - but do you really see the brand of long-ball football that NW has played so far working either? Hardly any of our players are suited to that style of play. As always, I am absolutely prepared to retract these criticisms if NW makes positive changes - I hope he does, and he certainly has enough experience to make me think he will. But from what we've seen so far, I can't help but agree with CaptainCreosote.
CaptainCreosote wrote:How about we just support Worthington and wait until the end of the season and see if he keeps us up ?
Duffy - should we wait 'til after Saturday to see if I am "weird"
I could not care less how we play until then if we are still a league club. The Mills style was was not working and its time to move on and not put extra pressure on a man that could be the difference between still having a football club long term or not.
YorkCityLuke
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1:04pm Thu 14 Mar 13
TimYCFC
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1:11pm Thu 14 Mar 13
I do feel slightly for Blair and Chambers though if he has come in to play out wide, there are guys in the squad who are more deserving of being replaced (naming no names SCOTT KERR)
speaks99
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1:18pm Thu 14 Mar 13
YorkCityLuke wrote:How many points did we drop making a ****-up trying to pass the ball out of defence? I can remember Kerr getting caught a couple of times, plus mistakes by Smith and Carlisle (??). Personally watching the defence put in a proper clearance is an improvement.
duffy wrote:You're clearly right, in that nobody will mind if he keeps us up playing ugly football. And you're right that he needs support. But he's managed us for 2 matches now, and both of them have been very poor, negative displays by almost all accounts. Normally, you wouldn't be able to judge anything from 2 games, but he only has 10 games to see us to safety - that's 1/5th of the games played, and no real improvement. He has a tough task, but he knew that when he took the job - in my opinion, tuesday (and last saturday) were simply not good enough and the buck stops with him now. It's true that Mills' passing football wasn't working, and hadn't been for a while - but do you really see the brand of long-ball football that NW has played so far working either? Hardly any of our players are suited to that style of play. As always, I am absolutely prepared to retract these criticisms if NW makes positive changes - I hope he does, and he certainly has enough experience to make me think he will. But from what we've seen so far, I can't help but agree with CaptainCreosote.
CaptainCreosote wrote:How about we just support Worthington and wait until the end of the season and see if he keeps us up ?
Duffy - should we wait 'til after Saturday to see if I am "weird"
I could not care less how we play until then if we are still a league club. The Mills style was was not working and its time to move on and not put extra pressure on a man that could be the difference between still having a football club long term or not.
YorkCityLuke
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1:30pm Thu 14 Mar 13
speaks99 wrote:True, but it doesn't need to be one way or the other - there are times the defenders should be putting their foot through the ball to make a clearence, and times when they should control the ball, look up and play an intelligent pass. Too much of the latter from Mills, too much of the former (so far) from NW.
YorkCityLuke wrote:How many points did we drop making a ****-up trying to pass the ball out of defence? I can remember Kerr getting caught a couple of times, plus mistakes by Smith and Carlisle (??). Personally watching the defence put in a proper clearance is an improvement.
duffy wrote:You're clearly right, in that nobody will mind if he keeps us up playing ugly football. And you're right that he needs support. But he's managed us for 2 matches now, and both of them have been very poor, negative displays by almost all accounts. Normally, you wouldn't be able to judge anything from 2 games, but he only has 10 games to see us to safety - that's 1/5th of the games played, and no real improvement. He has a tough task, but he knew that when he took the job - in my opinion, tuesday (and last saturday) were simply not good enough and the buck stops with him now. It's true that Mills' passing football wasn't working, and hadn't been for a while - but do you really see the brand of long-ball football that NW has played so far working either? Hardly any of our players are suited to that style of play. As always, I am absolutely prepared to retract these criticisms if NW makes positive changes - I hope he does, and he certainly has enough experience to make me think he will. But from what we've seen so far, I can't help but agree with CaptainCreosote.
CaptainCreosote wrote:How about we just support Worthington and wait until the end of the season and see if he keeps us up ?
Duffy - should we wait 'til after Saturday to see if I am "weird"
I could not care less how we play until then if we are still a league club. The Mills style was was not working and its time to move on and not put extra pressure on a man that could be the difference between still having a football club long term or not.
Budgie
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1:31pm Thu 14 Mar 13
openallhours
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1:42pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Budgie wrote:Don't worry, the wins are coming. We now have a manager with lots of league experience (and International) who will steer us in the right direction. I predict that we'll win at least 3 of the remaining games. Still think that he'll need another game to get to grips with the squad.
Just returned after 11 days out of the country. New Manager,new players old story NOT A WIN.
andy jamo
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1:52pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Budgie wrote:which new players are you talking about ?
Just returned after 11 days out of the country. New Manager,new players old story NOT A WIN.
nw has only signed two. neither have played yet.
duffy
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2:52pm Thu 14 Mar 13
YorkCityLuke wrote:Still working with the same players though. He needs more than one week and to bring in two or three of his own to hopefully make a difference. It might still not work out but the decision has been made and we have to hope he turns it around.
duffy wrote:You're clearly right, in that nobody will mind if he keeps us up playing ugly football. And you're right that he needs support. But he's managed us for 2 matches now, and both of them have been very poor, negative displays by almost all accounts. Normally, you wouldn't be able to judge anything from 2 games, but he only has 10 games to see us to safety - that's 1/5th of the games played, and no real improvement. He has a tough task, but he knew that when he took the job - in my opinion, tuesday (and last saturday) were simply not good enough and the buck stops with him now. It's true that Mills' passing football wasn't working, and hadn't been for a while - but do you really see the brand of long-ball football that NW has played so far working either? Hardly any of our players are suited to that style of play. As always, I am absolutely prepared to retract these criticisms if NW makes positive changes - I hope he does, and he certainly has enough experience to make me think he will. But from what we've seen so far, I can't help but agree with CaptainCreosote.CaptainCreosote wrote: Duffy - should we wait 'til after Saturday to see if I am "weird"How about we just support Worthington and wait until the end of the season and see if he keeps us up ? I could not care less how we play until then if we are still a league club. The Mills style was was not working and its time to move on and not put extra pressure on a man that could be the difference between still having a football club long term or not.
redwhiteblue
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3:06pm Thu 14 Mar 13
IntelXXX
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3:14pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Ingham
Banjo Smith Connell Fyfield
Carson Kerr Paddy Blair
Walker Rankine
limbert
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3:21pm Thu 14 Mar 13
walwynwasgod
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4:04pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Parslow Smith O' Connell Fyfield
Oyebanjo McGrath McLaughlin Carson
Walker Blair
SUBS Jameson Rankine Rodman Kerr
McReady Reed Chambers
OLD - HEAD
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4:08pm Thu 14 Mar 13
neutral observer 2
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4:11pm Thu 14 Mar 13
IntelXXX wrote:Ive heard he's a complete nonce, but that was from a stranger.
bill bailey wrote:I have heard similiar reports form a friend of mine who supports Ipswich.
The lad is quality.
Maybe people should actually see how he fits before touting an opinion.
The loan from Swansea was supposed to be Jesus walking on water. Didnt see any of that.
The suggestion that for the rest of this season we are going to suffer long ball walloping , for it to change 'if we stay up' during the summer. Is laughable and typical of the idiots who shouted for Mr Mills sacking.
You got what you deserve
Kitkateater
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4:12pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Kitkateater
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4:13pm Thu 14 Mar 13
redwhiteblue wrote:Where has he gone? Back to Gateshead?
Bullock has left the Club - that's one less midfield to sit on the bench!!
Kitkateater
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4:13pm Thu 14 Mar 13
redwhiteblue wrote:Where has he gone? Back to Gateshead?
Bullock has left the Club - that's one less midfield to sit on the bench!!
openallhours
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4:29pm Thu 14 Mar 13
neutral observer 2 wrote:Another '1 out of 10' post from you. Having said that, all of your posts are of the same quality so there's no surprise there.
IntelXXX wrote:Ive heard he's a complete nonce, but that was from a stranger. Maybe people should actually see how he fits before touting an opinion. The loan from Swansea was supposed to be Jesus walking on water. Didnt see any of that. The suggestion that for the rest of this season we are going to suffer long ball walloping , for it to change 'if we stay up' during the summer. Is laughable and typical of the idiots who shouted for Mr Mills sacking. You got what you deservebill bailey wrote: The lad is quality.I have heard similiar reports form a friend of mine who supports Ipswich.
carterjason
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4:44pm Thu 14 Mar 13
RooBeck
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5:00pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Mad for Minstermen
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6:04pm Thu 14 Mar 13
neutral observer 2 wrote:Why, oh why do these Leeds United people come on this forum spouting rubbish?
IntelXXX wrote:Ive heard he's a complete nonce, but that was from a stranger.
bill bailey wrote:I have heard similiar reports form a friend of mine who supports Ipswich.
The lad is quality.
Maybe people should actually see how he fits before touting an opinion.
The loan from Swansea was supposed to be Jesus walking on water. Didnt see any of that.
The suggestion that for the rest of this season we are going to suffer long ball walloping , for it to change 'if we stay up' during the summer. Is laughable and typical of the idiots who shouted for Mr Mills sacking.
You got what you deserve
rogue84
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6:26pm Thu 14 Mar 13
giggs08
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6:52pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Dortmun
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7:23pm Thu 14 Mar 13
neutral observer 2 wrote:Your user name suggests what you are not, neutral not, in total reverse gear I would say. Wish you would stick to your own teams forum.
IntelXXX wrote:Ive heard he's a complete nonce, but that was from a stranger.
bill bailey wrote:I have heard similiar reports form a friend of mine who supports Ipswich.
The lad is quality.
Maybe people should actually see how he fits before touting an opinion.
The loan from Swansea was supposed to be Jesus walking on water. Didnt see any of that.
The suggestion that for the rest of this season we are going to suffer long ball walloping , for it to change 'if we stay up' during the summer. Is laughable and typical of the idiots who shouted for Mr Mills sacking.
You got what you deserve
jumbojet
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8:42pm Thu 14 Mar 13
Dortmun
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9:07pm Thu 14 Mar 13
jumbojet wrote:What a excellent post by a true city supporter????
Let us hope Carson starts at full speed because we are running out of games, but from the team I watched on Tuesday night, nobody will be on the same wavelength. They looked like a team of aliens, just arrived from planet Zog, and had a quick briefing on this game called 'football', and then proceeded to give it a go. How did these players ever get the attention of professional coaches, or PT Instructers at school, they must have performed better than they are now, they have no idea, they actually look about for advice, not knowing whether to kick long or pass and dribble. They are allowed to do both. Where is Coulson? a grand little player, and Potts, we need them both.
Where is coulson? Obviously not a city fan at all!!!!!
rupertbehr
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9:42pm Thu 14 Mar 13
York Manor wrote:Consider me stupid if you wish,
Agree with the last two posts, we need to get points and stave off relegation, how that happens who cares, as stated previously we rebuild next season with NW who hopefully is still at the club.
BUT PLEASE !!!! .......Can someone explainTo me why YCFC can't amass enough Points for survival by playing ..
FOOTBALL as opposed to .....
"BLOODY HOOFBALL"
Caliyorkia
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4:56am Fri 15 Mar 13
Sir Alex
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8:20am Fri 15 Mar 13
Potts should come back too. Did he not score our last 'proper' goal at BC?
Banjo to RB. We need a full back capable of whipping the ball in.
Come on lads. We have already played Vale off the park this season - lets do it again.
duffy
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8:40am Fri 15 Mar 13
rupertbehr wrote:A mixture of the squad not being good enough and the fact the way we were playing was just too easy for the opposition. Knocking the ball around in midfield looked good but we just played at to slow a pace and nine times out if ten the final ball never came into the box, even when it did everyone in the opposition team had time to get back and defend. Worthington is trying to get us to play at a higher tempo and get more attempts on goal. We got two at Wimbledon which was an improvement but the Rochdale game sounded dire.
York Manor wrote:Consider me stupid if you wish,
Agree with the last two posts, we need to get points and stave off relegation, how that happens who cares, as stated previously we rebuild next season with NW who hopefully is still at the club.
BUT PLEASE !!!! .......Can someone explainTo me why YCFC can't amass enough Points for survival by playing ..
FOOTBALL as opposed to .....
"BLOODY HOOFBALL"
YO1
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9:01am Fri 15 Mar 13
duffy wrote:Both games under NW have been dire any fan who witnessed these games has a right to say so without being called "weird".
rupertbehr wrote:A mixture of the squad not being good enough and the fact the way we were playing was just too easy for the opposition. Knocking the ball around in midfield looked good but we just played at to slow a pace and nine times out if ten the final ball never came into the box, even when it did everyone in the opposition team had time to get back and defend. Worthington is trying to get us to play at a higher tempo and get more attempts on goal. We got two at Wimbledon which was an improvement but the Rochdale game sounded dire.
York Manor wrote:Consider me stupid if you wish,
Agree with the last two posts, we need to get points and stave off relegation, how that happens who cares, as stated previously we rebuild next season with NW who hopefully is still at the club.
BUT PLEASE !!!! .......Can someone explainTo me why YCFC can't amass enough Points for survival by playing ..
FOOTBALL as opposed to .....
"BLOODY HOOFBALL"
Moving on, this signing hopefully signals an improvement in the quality of signings that NW is able to bring to the club. We rarely put any decent balls in from the left and this should give competition on the right between Blair, Chambers and Coulson on return.
Looks a good signinng on paper, let's see how he does on grass this Saturday.
halfwit
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10:16pm Fri 15 Mar 13

CaptainCreosote says...
10:19am Thu 14 Mar 13