Nigel Worthington's managerial reign at York City starts with Wimbledon defeat (From York Press)

pip007 wrote:
We have three things working in our favour at the moment: Torquay, Accrington & Plymouth.

Southern Exile wrote:
Tbh wasn't expecting too much today, I am hoping NW will be able to turn our home form around though, 2 home wins and a couple of scrappy draws somewhere should be enough... well done to all there today, I'll make Bristol R and Northampton, keep behind the players and we will get out of this.

duffy wrote:
Worthington has his work cut out big style trying to get something from this conference squad of players. I would imagine we will see players in very quickly dependant on the loan rulings. We desperately need a commanding centre half and forward in. Just a horrible look of the Brass season about it.

sixtyfourfive wrote:
Based on very recent performances at Oxford And Rotherham under the (in my view) wrongly sacked Gaey Mills, I reckon this is a backward step. Hope we stay up but more fearful now than when Mills was here.

EcclesMustScore wrote:
So, Mills-haters, you got your change of manager, your got your change to the 'miracle cure' 4-4-2, you got your end to 'tippy tappy' football. In fact everythings working out perfectly isn't it? Hope you enjoyed the game today.

bill bailey wrote:
I SAW IT. come on for god sake , the man can only work with what hes got,i saw the game, i'm not saying it was a clasic but what can you expect,i went and deserted My team (NORWICH} for the simple reason i feel if i comment here i should at least see what i'm talking about, two good goals ,lapes at the back, i have always had faith in NW i even went to IRELAND to see his first match,get behind the players and the manager ,

spockboy2 wrote:
Worthington on radio says he cant fault the players for trying today.
Thinks we have the squad to do the job.
He likes our spirt but its the ''mistakes'' we need to sort out.
He is going to look at loans but says its a bad time to get players.

At least he seems down to earth .

duffy wrote:

EcclesMustScore wrote:
So, Mills-haters, you got your change of manager, your got your change to the 'miracle cure' 4-4-2, you got your end to 'tippy tappy' football. In fact everythings working out perfectly isn't it? Hope you enjoyed the game today.

1/10

Mad for Minstermen wrote:

bill bailey wrote:
I SAW IT. come on for god sake , the man can only work with what hes got,i saw the game, i'm not saying it was a clasic but what can you expect,i went and deserted My team (NORWICH} for the simple reason i feel if i comment here i should at least see what i'm talking about, two good goals ,lapes at the back, i have always had faith in NW i even went to IRELAND to see his first match,get behind the players and the manager ,

Troll

sixtyfourfive wrote:

Mad for Minstermen wrote:

bill bailey wrote:
I SAW IT. come on for god sake , the man can only work with what hes got,i saw the game, i'm not saying it was a clasic but what can you expect,i went and deserted My team (NORWICH} for the simple reason i feel if i comment here i should at least see what i'm talking about, two good goals ,lapes at the back, i have always had faith in NW i even went to IRELAND to see his first match,get behind the players and the manager ,

Troll

Not a troll but me thinks Mr Bailey has a (close?) link with our new manager. Why the relatively recent interest in York City from what we now know is a Norfolk based contributor - Worthington is I believe still based in Norfolk . Could Mr Bailey (an ex pro) be Worthington's agent or the link to the York job . Can't be - the Mcgills only thought of Worthington last Sunday!!!!!? Not having a go at you Mr Bailety - just intrigued!

neutral observer 2 wrote:
All went wrong today.
Mills sacking didnt give us the win and Smith scored 2.
Duffy is having a laugh. Leaving us with a conference squad. You werent saying that at anytime before. You've only realised.
York wont go down and this is nothing like the Brass team

nicko75 wrote:
Well we have certainly changed our tactics, that much is clear! All players clearly instructed to get it forward early, long, high and playing the channels. No time for getting the ball down and trying to pass it. Rankine's head the target for most of the hoofs. It wasn't pretty or especially creative but we did score 2 and had a few balls dropped differently maybe there might have been more... At the end of the day though its hard to get anything from football matches if you let 3 goals in. I've no idea if we've got enough to stay up any more...

bill bailey wrote:

sixtyfourfive wrote:

Mad for Minstermen wrote:

bill bailey wrote:
I SAW IT. come on for god sake , the man can only work with what hes got,i saw the game, i'm not saying it was a clasic but what can you expect,i went and deserted My team (NORWICH} for the simple reason i feel if i comment here i should at least see what i'm talking about, two good goals ,lapes at the back, i have always had faith in NW i even went to IRELAND to see his first match,get behind the players and the manager ,

Troll

Not a troll but me thinks Mr Bailey has a (close?) link with our new manager. Why the relatively recent interest in York City from what we now know is a Norfolk based contributor - Worthington is I believe still based in Norfolk . Could Mr Bailey (an ex pro) be Worthington's agent or the link to the York job . Can't be - the Mcgills only thought of Worthington last Sunday!!!!!? Not having a go at you Mr Bailety - just intrigued!

Not you again,!! You will never know,

Realistic ycfc wrote:
We will stay up no doubting it, I fancy a comprehensive victory on tues night to kick start it, not pretty today but I'm sure now nigel has seen players play come Tuesday he will have a slightly better understanding of these players, I would be intrigued to see how many of this squad will be here next season, it could be possibly one of our most exciting close seasons we have ever had, I'm sure 80 odd percent of these players will be gone and let's see how the lure of NW will be in recruiting new players, could be some decent names come next season

twang wrote:
Just got back well it wasnt pretty
Alot of head tennis without any height
Why ranks is wide firing the ball across the box a foot higher than the biggest striker ill never know
But stood behind the dugout there is some real managerial stuff coming out of the 3 our second goal came from the assistant manager moving the players and telling them where to play the ball
Has this come too late for the players to get in there heads whats needed i hope not
Matty spent the whole game looking at the bench for what to do next another couple of weeks and they will know what to do but is it too late
This should of happened 5 games ago

pip007 wrote:
We have three things working in our favour at the moment: Torquay, Accrington & Plymouth.

halfwit wrote:
what a load crap some of you post,all season you have said smith out now all of a sudden only player to score and twice he is a good player ,get a grip if you where that good you would be manager

YO1 wrote:
Couldn't get to the game or listen to commentary. Was surprised with the defensive line up as we'd been fairly solid at the back in the last three games, apart from the two individual errors against Bradford. Where was Banjo, is he injured?

As I understand it, Jamal only needed to play one more game to trigger a clause to guarantee him another years contract. That's one of the reasons he wasn't in the squad the last few games under GM.

I'm very concerned that NW is going to take several games to get up to speed with this league. I think any fan could have told him you can't play long ball against Wimbledon with our team and hope toatch them.

I'm very pessimistic about our chances of survival. I think it rests on whether Torquay, Plymouth and Accrington can actually continue to be worse than us. The only other hope is that NW can bring in three or four players if the loan system allows. Jason has said funds are available.

I have always maintained a belief on supporting the manager and the team whatever the result, it's clear that the squad assembled under GM isn't strong enough. I said in September that we had a weaker squad that last year and it's clear that GM failed in the transfer market quite disastrously.

What I hope is that the fans do not turn on the players like they did GM. These same lads achieved promotion for us last season and give their best every week. It's not their fault that the team hasn't been developed adequately over this season and they are having to punch above their weight every week against bigger physical teams.

Let's perform the only constructive action possible and give the team full vocal backing from now until the end of the season.

Leave the scapegoating and blaming until after the season is finished and see what position we are in then.

If we go down, let's go down knowing we did all we possibly could as fans to help the team.

halfwit wrote:
what a load crap some of you post,all season you have said smith out now all of a sudden only player to score and twice he is a good player ,get a grip if you where that good you would be manager

openallhours wrote:

YO1 wrote:
Couldn't get to the game or listen to commentary. Was surprised with the defensive line up as we'd been fairly solid at the back in the last three games, apart from the two individual errors against Bradford. Where was Banjo, is he injured?

As I understand it, Jamal only needed to play one more game to trigger a clause to guarantee him another years contract. That's one of the reasons he wasn't in the squad the last few games under GM.

I'm very concerned that NW is going to take several games to get up to speed with this league. I think any fan could have told him you can't play long ball against Wimbledon with our team and hope toatch them.

I'm very pessimistic about our chances of survival. I think it rests on whether Torquay, Plymouth and Accrington can actually continue to be worse than us. The only other hope is that NW can bring in three or four players if the loan system allows. Jason has said funds are available.

I have always maintained a belief on supporting the manager and the team whatever the result, it's clear that the squad assembled under GM isn't strong enough. I said in September that we had a weaker squad that last year and it's clear that GM failed in the transfer market quite disastrously.

What I hope is that the fans do not turn on the players like they did GM. These same lads achieved promotion for us last season and give their best every week. It's not their fault that the team hasn't been developed adequately over this season and they are having to punch above their weight every week against bigger physical teams.

Let's perform the only constructive action possible and give the team full vocal backing from now until the end of the season.

Leave the scapegoating and blaming until after the season is finished and see what position we are in then.

If we go down, let's go down knowing we did all we possibly could as fans to help the team.

I can't see the fans turning on the players and if anything, I can see our current position leading to more support. For now, I firmly believe that Worthington will find a solution. Wouldn't it be wonderful if by Saturday teatime we have 6 points more than we do now.

neutral observer 2 wrote:

openallhours wrote:

YO1 wrote:
Couldn't get to the game or listen to commentary. Was surprised with the defensive line up as we'd been fairly solid at the back in the last three games, apart from the two individual errors against Bradford. Where was Banjo, is he injured?

As I understand it, Jamal only needed to play one more game to trigger a clause to guarantee him another years contract. That's one of the reasons he wasn't in the squad the last few games under GM.

I'm very concerned that NW is going to take several games to get up to speed with this league. I think any fan could have told him you can't play long ball against Wimbledon with our team and hope toatch them.

I'm very pessimistic about our chances of survival. I think it rests on whether Torquay, Plymouth and Accrington can actually continue to be worse than us. The only other hope is that NW can bring in three or four players if the loan system allows. Jason has said funds are available.

I have always maintained a belief on supporting the manager and the team whatever the result, it's clear that the squad assembled under GM isn't strong enough. I said in September that we had a weaker squad that last year and it's clear that GM failed in the transfer market quite disastrously.

What I hope is that the fans do not turn on the players like they did GM. These same lads achieved promotion for us last season and give their best every week. It's not their fault that the team hasn't been developed adequately over this season and they are having to punch above their weight every week against bigger physical teams.

Let's perform the only constructive action possible and give the team full vocal backing from now until the end of the season.

Leave the scapegoating and blaming until after the season is finished and see what position we are in then.

If we go down, let's go down knowing we did all we possibly could as fans to help the team.

I can't see the fans turning on the players and if anything, I can see our current position leading to more support. For now, I firmly believe that Worthington will find a solution. Wouldn't it be wonderful if by Saturday teatime we have 6 points more than we do now.

Tool.

limbert wrote:
Can't help but think we would've got a drawer if G M was still in charge.

nudger wrote:
Great support today from the '500' at a game not for the purists,with (head-tennis) rallies and challenges more likely to be seen at the nearby All-England Club and Twickenham respectively.Seldom do you see a bigger opposition than AFCW and seldom a more crude style of hoofball. Dreadful, but ultimately, effective this was a very poor advert for this division.It needs a strong ref and linesmen to handle the Wombles on their home patch and we didnt get one today. Amazing that Smith's shirt wasnt ripped off his back every time he went into their box,with officials turning a blind eye,as they did for the first goal,which was the result of a high boot that nearly took Matty's head off.
Midfield was totally by-passed with Wimbledon,(then City also) seemingly not wanting the ball to hit the ground.
Neil Ardley,who must be the lovechild of Harry Bassett and John Beck has fashioned a team more physical than Barrow, more direct than Histon(if thats possible) and more reliant on set-pieces than Mansfield,but sad to say it is working for them.
Our passing game that created so many chances in the cup tie at Kingsmeadow,was almost totally absent today. Clearly Ranks and Paddy lacked a bit of match fitness but the former did win a lot of balls in the air. The players repeatedly looked to the bench for direction,but put in a lot of effort. Lets hope the apparent change of tactics will inspire rather than confuse going forward.
Certainly no tippy-tappy today with the 'Beautiful Game' having a day off.You have to feel a bit sorry for the ball and the 500!

duffy wrote:
Yesterday was always a game we were likely to lose regardless, we simply don't have the team to compete with strong, direct teams, you only have to look at results against Wimbledon this season. We should have more of a chance in the upcoming games starting Tuesday.

neutral observer 2 wrote:

openallhours wrote:

YO1 wrote:
Couldn't get to the game or listen to commentary. Was surprised with the defensive line up as we'd been fairly solid at the back in the last three games, apart from the two individual errors against Bradford. Where was Banjo, is he injured?

As I understand it, Jamal only needed to play one more game to trigger a clause to guarantee him another years contract. That's one of the reasons he wasn't in the squad the last few games under GM.

I'm very concerned that NW is going to take several games to get up to speed with this league. I think any fan could have told him you can't play long ball against Wimbledon with our team and hope toatch them.

I'm very pessimistic about our chances of survival. I think it rests on whether Torquay, Plymouth and Accrington can actually continue to be worse than us. The only other hope is that NW can bring in three or four players if the loan system allows. Jason has said funds are available.

I have always maintained a belief on supporting the manager and the team whatever the result, it's clear that the squad assembled under GM isn't strong enough. I said in September that we had a weaker squad that last year and it's clear that GM failed in the transfer market quite disastrously.

What I hope is that the fans do not turn on the players like they did GM. These same lads achieved promotion for us last season and give their best every week. It's not their fault that the team hasn't been developed adequately over this season and they are having to punch above their weight every week against bigger physical teams.

Let's perform the only constructive action possible and give the team full vocal backing from now until the end of the season.

Leave the scapegoating and blaming until after the season is finished and see what position we are in then.

If we go down, let's go down knowing we did all we possibly could as fans to help the team.

I can't see the fans turning on the players and if anything, I can see our current position leading to more support. For now, I firmly believe that Worthington will find a solution. Wouldn't it be wonderful if by Saturday teatime we have 6 points more than we do now.

Tool.

YoRkIe59 wrote:
having made the difficult decision to let G.M go it is now a worry that our new man may just not have the time to change tactics and accustom the players to his way,or have the time and chance to bring in players where he believes he needs to.Also the time it will take to have a decent look at the players he has and who is best side might be.very very worrying times,i think its way way past or the wrong time for recriminations and bickering on here between people who all ultimately want the same thing.It would be sad if all semblance of our passing game is to be sacrificed not least as we don,t seem to have the right personnel for the long ball and or physical game but right now Worthington has one aim to get us two or three wins whatever way he can thats the only thing that matters right now.worry about the style of football next season hopefully still in league two.finally ok Eccles i assume your of the opinion we would have come away from Wimbledon if mr mills had still been in charge,h,mmm you really think so?.

Wembley2012 wrote:
I have closely monitored BIll Bailey comments with interest recently. Close links to our new manager? He neither confirmed or denied it! Quite disrespectful to Gary Mills. Not showing much class really to a man who took our great club back up to the league and had one bad 2 month spell and he is rewarded with the sack. Doesn't inspire me yesterdays display with confidence playing direct football that's what it appeared to be yesterday. We don't have the players to play that way. I feel under mills we held our own in many games and its all about opinions but I feel he would have kept us up. Played Rotherham off the park, very recently I heard 3 2 yesterday flattered us. I don't go with this the players arnt good enough we were hardly rooted and getting stuffed week by week under mills some good young players who he had playing the correct way who I think with some patience would have improved next season under mills. Also unlucky to lose coulson and chambers at key moments. I wouldn't have minded a massive mills point yesterday! ( last 2 away Oxford and Rotherham draws) Crewe benefited from years of stability under gradi the odd relegation but did they didn't panic. They had a philosophy and stuck to it. Mills was a genuine guy who cared about York and had us playing some good football who after one bad spell is shown no loyalty. No he wasn't perfect but what manager is? Worthington will be givien my backing but what worries me is if and I state if mr bailey is linked closely to our new manger his comments about " he can only do what he can with what he has?" Hardly looks like worthy believes in the group? And mr bailey appeared before mills sacking which makes it quite grubby how mills was shown disrespect by one fellow manager. But the main point now is for York to stay up.

duffy wrote:
Worthington has his work cut out big style trying to get something from this conference squad of players. I would imagine we will see players in very quickly dependant on the loan rulings. We desperately need a commanding centre half and forward in. Just a horrible look of the Brass season about it.

limbert wrote:
Rather than have season after season struggling to stay up, would be more exciting going down and then going for promotion or Wembley play off final.Get bigger crowds and better atmosphere and pay less in player wages....Just a thaught.

prince naseem wrote:

duffy wrote:
Worthington has his work cut out big style trying to get something from this conference squad of players. I would imagine we will see players in very quickly dependant on the loan rulings. We desperately need a commanding centre half and forward in. Just a horrible look of the Brass season about it.

He's lumbered with Mills's dross, he needs to get some new players.

prince naseem wrote:

duffy wrote:
Worthington has his work cut out big style trying to get something from this conference squad of players. I would imagine we will see players in very quickly dependant on the loan rulings. We desperately need a commanding centre half and forward in. Just a horrible look of the Brass season about it.

He's lumbered with Mills's dross, he needs to get some new players.

Wembley2012 wrote:
I don't think dross get draws at port vale, gillingham, Rotherham..., you get the picture. People need a reality check we have been out of the league for 8 years operating on a lower end budget in this league. I could have seen the argument for sacking mills if we had been rooted all season and losing by big margins week after week. But that wasn't the case. He raised expectations by taking us to wembley twice and as I said earlier one bad spell in his spell as manager and the mcgills panic. I think he deserved better. Worthington has my support as would any York manager but people like the Norfolk based non city fan and apparant ex pro mr bailey should take a look closely at the last 15 years in the history of York and realise what an achievement it was by mr mills last season. Luton lets be honest a bigger club with more resources cant get it right can they? Opinions yes but I think we would have been ok under him this season and stayed up, last 2 away gAmes draws at Oxford and Rotherham. A Draw yesterday would have been nice! So when is this centre hAlf arriving from down the A1 mr bailey? The goalkeeper has arrived already. You Being a big Worthington man going to his first game in Ireland you said? Got any names for us?

bill bailey wrote:

Wembley2012 wrote: I don't think dross get draws at port vale, gillingham, Rotherham..., you get the picture. People need a reality check we have been out of the league for 8 years operating on a lower end budget in this league. I could have seen the argument for sacking mills if we had been rooted all season and losing by big margins week after week. But that wasn't the case. He raised expectations by taking us to wembley twice and as I said earlier one bad spell in his spell as manager and the mcgills panic. I think he deserved better. Worthington has my support as would any York manager but people like the Norfolk based non city fan and apparant ex pro mr bailey should take a look closely at the last 15 years in the history of York and realise what an achievement it was by mr mills last season. Luton lets be honest a bigger club with more resources cant get it right can they? Opinions yes but I think we would have been ok under him this season and stayed up, last 2 away gAmes draws at Oxford and Rotherham. A Draw yesterday would have been nice! So when is this centre hAlf arriving from down the A1 mr bailey? The goalkeeper has arrived already. You Being a big Worthington man going to his first game in Ireland you said? Got any names for us?

Dont have a go at me mate. have a go at .Prince Naseem & Duffy..i haven't called anyone a dross,yet. but there's always a first time,and you could be first in line,

Wembley2012 wrote:
I have closely monitored BIll Bailey comments with interest recently. Close links to our new manager? He neither confirmed or denied it! Quite disrespectful to Gary Mills. Not showing much class really to a man who took our great club back up to the league and had one bad 2 month spell and he is rewarded with the sack. Doesn't inspire me yesterdays display with confidence playing direct football that's what it appeared to be yesterday. We don't have the players to play that way. I feel under mills we held our own in many games and its all about opinions but I feel he would have kept us up. Played Rotherham off the park, very recently I heard 3 2 yesterday flattered us. I don't go with this the players arnt good enough we were hardly rooted and getting stuffed week by week under mills some good young players who he had playing the correct way who I think with some patience would have improved next season under mills. Also unlucky to lose coulson and chambers at key moments. I wouldn't have minded a massive mills point yesterday! ( last 2 away Oxford and Rotherham draws) Crewe benefited from years of stability under gradi the odd relegation but did they didn't panic. They had a philosophy and stuck to it. Mills was a genuine guy who cared about York and had us playing some good football who after one bad spell is shown no loyalty. No he wasn't perfect but what manager is? Worthington will be givien my backing but what worries me is if and I state if mr bailey is linked closely to our new manger his comments about " he can only do what he can with what he has?" Hardly looks like worthy believes in the group? And mr bailey appeared before mills sacking which makes it quite grubby how mills was shown disrespect by one fellow manager. But the main point now is for York to stay up.

rogue84 wrote:
we need McGurk back for tomorrow night, no question. and is there any harm in playing Smith upfront??! at least for a half if we're struggling? it sounds ridiculous, but he's scored as many goals in 50 minutes of football than the whole squad had managed in the previous 6 matches.

RooBeck wrote:

rogue84 wrote:
we need McGurk back for tomorrow night, no question. and is there any harm in playing Smith upfront??! at least for a half if we're struggling? it sounds ridiculous, but he's scored as many goals in 50 minutes of football than the whole squad had managed in the previous 6 matches.

Could swop him with Ranks - he has just about as much pace as Clarke Carlisle had and should win plenty of defensive headers - and pair him up in central defence with Dave McGurk if he is fit - Jack O'Connell moving over to left back - Lanre back on the right and put Jamal Fyfield left-sided attacking midfielder, with Danny P back in the holding role and if fit, I would also bring in John MacReady with Blair and Chambers as wide men!! Rodman, McLaughlin and Kerr to the bench. Chris Smith would then need support in a 4-4-2 from say Jason Walker, and a good supply of high balls from long throws, corners, free-kicks and he just might be a temporary answer to the long, long, home goal drought! That would shake things up a bit!! COYR.

Wembley2012 wrote:
Oh dear touched the nerve have I Mr Bailey! Sorry but I don't post on Norwich forums I concentrate on my own club and I think I make valid points about york and are more qualified than you who admits to not being a york fan and a apparant ex pro and makes wild statements about players coming in and being a close follower of worthington. I suggest you stick to Norwich your own club. I find it Rather sad posting on York press site living in Norfolk and supporting Norwich! And I highly doubt I am the only person who finds that strange! Or has your story changed now!

bill bailey wrote:

Wembley2012 wrote:
Oh dear touched the nerve have I Mr Bailey! Sorry but I don't post on Norwich forums I concentrate on my own club and I think I make valid points about york and are more qualified than you who admits to not being a york fan and a apparant ex pro and makes wild statements about players coming in and being a close follower of worthington. I suggest you stick to Norwich your own club. I find it Rather sad posting on York press site living in Norfolk and supporting Norwich! And I highly doubt I am the only person who finds that strange! Or has your story changed now!

No not touched a nerve to old in the tooth to fall for your nurdish remarks,those who know you on here must be thinking ,what an idiot this wembley person is,oh well some mothers do have um.

limbert wrote:
Rather than have season after season struggling to stay up, would be more exciting going down and then going for promotion or Wembley play off final.Get bigger crowds and better atmosphere and pay less in player wages....Just a thaught.

DavidBu wrote:
"Could swop him with Ranks - he has just about as much pace as Clarke Carlisle had and should win plenty of defensive headers - and pair him up in central defence with Dave McGurk if he is fit - Jack O'Connell moving over to left back - Lanre back on the right and put Jamal Fyfield left-sided attacking midfielder, with Danny P back in the holding role and if fit, I would also bring in John MacReady with Blair and Chambers as wide men!! Rodman, McLaughlin and Kerr to the bench. Chris Smith would then need support in a 4-4-2 from say Jason Walker, and a good supply of high balls from long throws, corners, free-kicks and he just might be a temporary answer to the long, long, home goal drought! That would shake things up a bit!! COYR.”

Wasn't one of the ongoing gripes about GM that he kept playing players out of their normal positions?