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‘We’re backing the boss’ says York City midfielder John McGrath
12:00pm Wednesday 20th February 2013 in Sport
By Dave Flett, Sports reporter
On-loan John McGrath has pledged his support to Gary Mills
ON-LOAN says John McGrath has confirmed that Gary Mills has the full support of his dressing room as he bids to turn around York City's fortunes.
The Bootham Crescent board have declared they are looking for an improvement in results following Saturday’s 2-1 home defeat to Barnet – the club’s eighth match without a win.
And McGrath, who also played under Mills at Tamworth, is adamant the City chief will meet that challenge, ahead of Saturday’s trip to Oxford United.
The former Doncaster midfielder, recruited from Burton by Mills, said: “There’s no doubt the gaffer is the right man for the job and he has the backing of all the lads.
“He’s one of the main reasons I came here. He’s a great bloke who’s very enthusiastic and losing will have hurt him as much as it did any York City player or fan on Saturday.
“He wears his heart on his sleeve and what the manager did last season to get York those two trophies was great. I know the fans are a bit upset and disappointed after the highs of last season but this is a hard division with some massive clubs, even ex-Premier League ones in it, and to finish third-bottom and stay up would represent a great season.
“If everybody sticks together, we should be okay.”
McGrath has signalled his commitment to the cause during his first two displays for the Minstermen and he has revealed he would also be ready to end five years with Burton, where he is still club captain, by making his switch to Bootham Crescent permanent in the summer.
He added: “I had a choice between sitting on the bench at Burton, coming on for ten minutes here and there and seeing my contract out, or coming to York so I jumped at the chance because I missed that Friday night buzz of preparing for a game. I would definitely be interested in joining permanently.
“I like how the team play football and I like the three men in midfield formation. We have a good squad.
“I’ve seen young Michael Potts in training and Paddy McLaughlin and they are fantastic players. I also live in Doncaster so the club is only 45 minutes away, which is ideal for me.
“I have young kids that I can take to school and pick up. I’m at a stage in my life where I am family orientated so somewhere three or four hours away from home does not interest me.
“But, that aside, this is a huge club whether they are playing in League One, League Two or the Conference. It’s a well-supported team that deserves success.”
McGrath also revealed he almost joined the Minstermen back in 2008 when then manager Colin Walker tried to sign him.
He stayed at Burton instead and played a major part in their subsequent Blue Square Premier title-winning campaign.
Recalling that decision, McGrath said: “I did come close to signing back then and spoke to Colin a couple of times.
“I get drawn into loyalty though and had been at Burton for a season and knew I was going to play. I probably would have at York as well but I made my choice.
“Out of courtesy, I rang the chairman Jason McGill at the time to thank him for the offer and he actually said I hope our paths cross again some day. It’s been a few years but they have crossed again and I’m really glad they have.”
Prior to his arrival at City, McGrath had not started a League game since snapping ligaments in his foot during a 2-0 defeat at Swindon last February but is confident that he has made a full recovery from the injury, saying: “My wife worries about the injury in the stands and tells me not to go into too many tackles but that’s how I play football.
“I can’t go in half-hearted. It’s all healed and I’m 100 per cent fit so, if something needs to be tackled, I will tackle it.”
Despite replacing the likes of David Ginola and Paul Merson during his days as a Premier League player at first club Aston Villa, McGrath also remains just as hungry for success a dozen years on.
He said: “It was fantastic to come over from Ireland at the age of 18 and join a club like Villa because somebody had seen something in you.
“It’s also great to be able to talk to my nine-year-old son now about playing in the Premier League.
“People ask me if I miss that but things happen for a reason. Perhaps I wasn’t quite good enough at the time or things went against me but I’m where I am now and I love doing what I do.
“I’ve been a professional footballer for 12 years and I have many more years in front of me. I’m 32 but I feel better now than I did when I was 26 or 27. I can still get around a pitch as I hope I have shown over the last two games.”
Comments(68)
Colin Pratt
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12:30pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Has GM suddenly found out that he is a related to Douglas Craig or Barry Swallow as he is taking this club for a ride and it is spiralling out of control. I'm so glad that most of the fans have taken off their tinted spectacles and now recognise we are in a dog fight. We cannot continue living in the promotion year of last season and get to grips with this fast paced business that is cut throat to say the least. The Manager has to change to revitalise this squad with very low confidence.
Saturday was an absolute disgrace with Gary Mills' decisions. Time for a change or back to the Conference FACT.
Colin Pratt
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12:32pm Wed 20 Feb 13
tips
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12:42pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Mills is without doubt the best manager we have had for years and he has turned the club round.
However he has to learn that sometimes he needs to switch tactics and formation as games progress.
If he can do that and the players treat every game like a Cup Final then we can survive this season , learn from our mistakes and use this season's experiences to improve in the future.
Get behind the lads and support the club at this difficult time
old_school_minsterman
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12:50pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Colin Pratt wrote:Think you will find that is an opinion, not a FACT.
Gary Mills instruction to John McGrath....."Jo
hn, do some PR please as part of your loan deal - talk to the Press and say you are all in support of me and agree with everything I do including playing 5-4-1 which I tell the fans is 4-3-3" Has GM suddenly found out that he is a related to Douglas Craig or Barry Swallow as he is taking this club for a ride and it is spiralling out of control. I'm so glad that most of the fans have taken off their tinted spectacles and now recognise we are in a dog fight. We cannot continue living in the promotion year of last season and get to grips with this fast paced business that is cut throat to say the least. The Manager has to change to revitalise this squad with very low confidence. Saturday was an absolute disgrace with Gary Mills' decisions. Time for a change or back to the Conference FACT.
old_school_minsterman
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12:51pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Colin Pratt wrote:Think you will find that is an opinion, not a FACT.
Gary Mills instruction to John McGrath....."Jo
hn, do some PR please as part of your loan deal - talk to the Press and say you are all in support of me and agree with everything I do including playing 5-4-1 which I tell the fans is 4-3-3" Has GM suddenly found out that he is a related to Douglas Craig or Barry Swallow as he is taking this club for a ride and it is spiralling out of control. I'm so glad that most of the fans have taken off their tinted spectacles and now recognise we are in a dog fight. We cannot continue living in the promotion year of last season and get to grips with this fast paced business that is cut throat to say the least. The Manager has to change to revitalise this squad with very low confidence. Saturday was an absolute disgrace with Gary Mills' decisions. Time for a change or back to the Conference FACT.
Mickey T
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12:58pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Three points this Saturday would go a long way to helping the teams moral and confidence.
We will win this week-end.
AndyK
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1:02pm Wed 20 Feb 13
duffy
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1:09pm Wed 20 Feb 13
YCFC am byth
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1:10pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Mickey T wrote:Agreed Mickey T. Lets support the manager and the team as we navigate this bad patch. We have had more than our fair share of bad luck this season and this WILL turn. Keep positve and focus on success and not creating negative energy that is completly counter productive. As McGrath says we have a good team and gave Burton a great game recently. Lets see if we can do the double against Oxford on Saturday! COYR
Well I am backing Gary Mills to keep us in the Football League. I too like his style of playing the game.
Three points this Saturday would go a long way to helping the teams moral and confidence.
We will win this week-end.
Mickey T
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1:11pm Wed 20 Feb 13
duffy wrote:Duffy are you yorkyred on R and B? looks very much like the same post.
Not sure if he should stay or go at the moment but for gods sake some of the abuse is frankly embarrassing. The guy did a Wembley double and promotion, whatever happens he at least deserves a level of respect.
YCFC am byth
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1:16pm Wed 20 Feb 13
YCFC am byth
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1:16pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Head of Bomber Command
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1:20pm Wed 20 Feb 13
YCFC am byth wrote:100% with you.
Mickey T wrote:Agreed Mickey T. Lets support the manager and the team as we navigate this bad patch. We have had more than our fair share of bad luck this season and this WILL turn. Keep positve and focus on success and not creating negative energy that is completly counter productive. As McGrath says we have a good team and gave Burton a great game recently. Lets see if we can do the double against Oxford on Saturday! COYR
Well I am backing Gary Mills to keep us in the Football League. I too like his style of playing the game.
Three points this Saturday would go a long way to helping the teams moral and confidence.
We will win this week-end.
Sure the lads will rise to the challenge for Gary and the Club at Oxford.
I can't wait for Saturday.
Mad for Minstermen
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1:42pm Wed 20 Feb 13
missionfromarry
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1:53pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Mad for Minstermen wrote:You must be just mad and not for the Minstermen...if you were you wouldn't spout this hysterical rubbish....time for the majority of intelligent city fans to remain together and realise this season is about staying in this league only and if that means third from bottom, great, mission accomplished ! Get behind the lads and GM they deserve our full support...
If defeat at Oxford, what then ...we are getting closer to running onto the pitch and happy clapping Millsy for getting us all the way back to the Conference, job well done, carry him on your shoulders, hip hip hooray. Dump him now.
Phil, Leeds
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2:04pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Also, it's just PR getting players to say how rosy things are. In my experience that's usually confirmation that all's not that well.
YCFC115
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2:14pm Wed 20 Feb 13
duffy
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2:28pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Mickey T wrote:Yes I'm the same poster.
duffy wrote:Duffy are you yorkyred on R and B? looks very much like the same post.
Not sure if he should stay or go at the moment but for gods sake some of the abuse is frankly embarrassing. The guy did a Wembley double and promotion, whatever happens he at least deserves a level of respect.
bill bailey
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2:28pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Southern Exile
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2:29pm Wed 20 Feb 13
YCFC115 wrote:Agreed, no-one wants him to fail but there is a decision to be made about how long you allow a failing approach to continue:
I simply cannot believe that any true York City fan wants to see Mills fail. He deserves our support but he seems determined to rub everyone up the wrong way. These are difficult times and he needs to learn from his mistakes and quickly.
No away win since December
No home win since 1st Jan
1 win in the last eleven
4 pts from the last 8 games
1 pt from the last 4...
When do you say enough is enough and take it out of his hands if he won't change?
DavidBu
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3:17pm Wed 20 Feb 13
The common thread is the suggestion that the manager is a spent force, is no longer up to the job and is arrogent, refuses to consider a change of planand will not listen. These are serious criticisms indeed and things can not be allowed to go on like this.
It looks like there is a serious deficiency of communication and that what we need is some meaningful contact between Gary Mills and everybody out here, to clear the air and in an attempt to put our collective mind at rest.
If Gary really has the level of confidence he appears to have, then it should easily be within his ability to tell the fans exactly what his thinking is and why he is approaching the job in hand the way he is doing so and to answer their criticisms and queries. Genuine fans are certainly singing from the same sheet, but the difference between feeling involved and feeling alienated can be extremely small, especially during a downturn.
So, Gary, please share your thoughts with us, address us from the heart, meet with us, put our minds at rest, before the critics overwhelm us.
yorkieforever
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3:18pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Fat Harry
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3:28pm Wed 20 Feb 13
tactics got us out of Conference Hell, after all.
2. However, I do believe he needs to learn to swallow his pride and closely examine his tactics and selection policies. Admitting there's a problem is often a sign of strength, Gary, not weakness. I'm not arguing for 4-4-2 in every game, come hell or high water, just some indication that we can play a plan B when your chosen formation doesn't produce the goods, as has been the case more and more frequently in recent weeks, with outstanding results at Port Vale and Gillingham more than wiped out by humiliation at the hands of Wycombe and Barnet, for example.
3. I don't want Mills to go. I do want him to change tack. However, I fear that his "back me or sack me" message to the board earlier in the week may prove to be the rock that finally sinks him.
4. Whatever opinions I force on an unwilling public here or in the pub, at games I'll continue to get behind Gary and his team 100% - unity is strength.
minstermen
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3:28pm Wed 20 Feb 13
old_school_minsterman
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3:45pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Phil, Leeds wrote:In your experience as....?? A footballer, manager, chairman, owner?!
This season is beginning to have too many similarities to 2003/04 when everybody was saying we couldn't possibly go down. Many on here are saying we won't go down but how many more winless games can we take before it gets too late? I think we need to win 1 of the next 3 games to get some confidence back. Also, it's just PR getting players to say how rosy things are. In my experience that's usually confirmation that all's not that well.
Tug job
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3:58pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Colin Pratt wrote:Usual hot hair and guff from Pratty that doesn't even begin to make sense; remember how he kept posting during the second half of last season that we'd blown our chances of promotion? Colin, an opinion is not a fact.
Gary Mills instruction to John McGrath....."Jo
hn, do some PR please as part of your loan deal - talk to the Press and say you are all in support of me and agree with everything I do including playing 5-4-1 which I tell the fans is 4-3-3"
Has GM suddenly found out that he is a related to Douglas Craig or Barry Swallow as he is taking this club for a ride and it is spiralling out of control. I'm so glad that most of the fans have taken off their tinted spectacles and now recognise we are in a dog fight. We cannot continue living in the promotion year of last season and get to grips with this fast paced business that is cut throat to say the least. The Manager has to change to revitalise this squad with very low confidence.
Saturday was an absolute disgrace with Gary Mills' decisions. Time for a change or back to the Conference FACT.
openallhours
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4:03pm Wed 20 Feb 13
neutral observer 2
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4:06pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Colin Pratt wrote:Your last post was the biggest load of drivel since the one previous.
Apologies, not for the sentiments but for some appalling grammar in my last post.
Pratt by name
Pratt by nature
Tug job
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4:12pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Mad for Minstermen wrote:I thought the season was made up of 46 games? So, whatever happens on Saturday, there will be another 12 games left to play, another 36 points available. There's still a long way to go and, among our remaining fixtures, we have Accrington, Bristol Rovers, Wimbledon, Torquay and Dagenham - it is still on our own hands. But because I'm being objective and not panicking, some idiots will say I'm a 'happy clapper'.
If defeat at Oxford, what then ...we are getting closer to running onto the pitch and happy clapping Millsy for getting us all the way back to the Conference, job well done, carry him on your shoulders, hip hip hooray. Dump him now.
haxbyreds
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4:14pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Tug job
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4:30pm Wed 20 Feb 13
openallhours wrote:You keep posting about fans not coming but our average attendance is around 700 up on last season. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
I like McGrath and compared to other signings he's been a breath of fresh air but - where as he's come here because of Mills, lots of fans are choosing not to come also because of Mills. I just hope that long after McGrath has left we still have a football club (well a league one anyway).
redbluelion
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4:32pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Phil, Leeds
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4:55pm Wed 20 Feb 13
redbluelion wrote:Exactly. Talk is cheap, it's performances that speak louder than words. Footballers should do what they do best - play football and leave the talking to others.
just another player standing up for the manager..what else can he say.im sick of hearing players talkin the talk now its time to man up and walk the walk.starting this saturday.only 3pts will do .we need to have the bottle now to fight in every game.to win every game.and defending well..if we put effort in to every games no reason why we can't avoid an end of season dogfight to stay up.
Phil, Leeds
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4:58pm Wed 20 Feb 13
old_school_minstermaProbably none of those, although I have played lower non league football in the past. Just observations and experience of life, there's a lot of spin around these days in all walks of life, though you may not be aware.
n wrote:
Phil, Leeds wrote:In your experience as....?? A footballer, manager, chairman, owner?!
This season is beginning to have too many similarities to 2003/04 when everybody was saying we couldn't possibly go down. Many on here are saying we won't go down but how many more winless games can we take before it gets too late? I think we need to win 1 of the next 3 games to get some confidence back. Also, it's just PR getting players to say how rosy things are. In my experience that's usually confirmation that all's not that well.
Tug job
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5:17pm Wed 20 Feb 13
AndyK wrote:Not at all strange since the article was an interview with a player about his decision to come here. The YEP, desparate for content as always, has simply run two stories from the same source material - it does this frequently.
I find it a bit odd that John McGrath seems to be the players representative and not Chris Smith. Strange!!
Tug job
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5:20pm Wed 20 Feb 13
openallhours
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6:04pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Tug job wrote:Whichever way you look at it, 2500 on Tuesday and 3500 on Saturday is a big drop on what we should be getting but the Mills effect is keeping fans away. Anyway, go and bother somebody else.
openallhours wrote: I like McGrath and compared to other signings he's been a breath of fresh air but - where as he's come here because of Mills, lots of fans are choosing not to come also because of Mills. I just hope that long after McGrath has left we still have a football club (well a league one anyway).You keep posting about fans not coming but our average attendance is around 700 up on last season. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
Mad for Minstermen
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6:05pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Tug job wrote:Yep, you're a happy clapper !!!
Mad for Minstermen wrote:I thought the season was made up of 46 games? So, whatever happens on Saturday, there will be another 12 games left to play, another 36 points available. There's still a long way to go and, among our remaining fixtures, we have Accrington, Bristol Rovers, Wimbledon, Torquay and Dagenham - it is still on our own hands. But because I'm being objective and not panicking, some idiots will say I'm a 'happy clapper'.
If defeat at Oxford, what then ...we are getting closer to running onto the pitch and happy clapping Millsy for getting us all the way back to the Conference, job well done, carry him on your shoulders, hip hip hooray. Dump him now.
Mad for Minstermen
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6:12pm Wed 20 Feb 13
missionfromarry wrote:You must also be mad as you obviously enjoy flushing good money down the pan, wait until you're paying full pops for joke league football for the next 8 years if nothing changes. Should York not win Saturday, that should be his last chance saloon.
Mad for Minstermen wrote:You must be just mad and not for the Minstermen...if you were you wouldn't spout this hysterical rubbish....time for the majority of intelligent city fans to remain together and realise this season is about staying in this league only and if that means third from bottom, great, mission accomplished ! Get behind the lads and GM they deserve our full support...
If defeat at Oxford, what then ...we are getting closer to running onto the pitch and happy clapping Millsy for getting us all the way back to the Conference, job well done, carry him on your shoulders, hip hip hooray. Dump him now.
PositiveFootball
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6:24pm Wed 20 Feb 13
If the supporters can keep the faith as well then there won't be a problem.
BTW regarding the term "happy clappers" I have to admit that I may have been doing so all the way through our Cup and League triumphs. I am not going to stop when the going gets a little rough!
Mad for Minstermen
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6:27pm Wed 20 Feb 13
PositiveFootball wrote:Happy clapper !
“There’s no doubt the gaffer is the right man for the job and he has the backing of all the lads" John McGrath
If the supporters can keep the faith as well then there won't be a problem.
BTW regarding the term "happy clappers" I have to admit that I may have been doing so all the way through our Cup and League triumphs. I am not going to stop when the going gets a little rough!
PositiveFootball
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6:54pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Mad for Minstermen wrote:Thanks!
PositiveFootball wrote:Happy clapper !
“There’s no doubt the gaffer is the right man for the job and he has the backing of all the lads" John McGrath
If the supporters can keep the faith as well then there won't be a problem.
BTW regarding the term "happy clappers" I have to admit that I may have been doing so all the way through our Cup and League triumphs. I am not going to stop when the going gets a little rough!
thirsky
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7:18pm Wed 20 Feb 13
YO1
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7:18pm Wed 20 Feb 13
duffy wrote:Agreed
Not sure if he should stay or go at the moment but for gods sake some of the abuse is frankly embarrassing. The guy did a Wembley double and promotion, whatever happens he at least deserves a level of respect.
YCFC am byth
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7:44pm Wed 20 Feb 13
DavidBu wrote:A lot sense in what DavidBu says. We all need to stay positive and support the team and the manager BUT it has to be a 2 way street to keep the fans onboard. Millsy if you read this board please thinkabout this point as together we can succeed but in isolation we won't. Talk to us and communicate. We love the fact you wear your heart on your sleeve. but sometimes the hardest thing is to make change for the right reasons especially when you believe in good principles. Bottom line is results do need to change and YOU are reponsible. Just manage to win irresspective of how and get some points on the board. We have a lot of fickle fan but we all want you to succeed. IMWT
I've read many of the disgruntled comments from fans, following the most recent defeat at the hands of lowly Barnet and it seems that within the last month or two the wheels are in danger of coming off.
The common thread is the suggestion that the manager is a spent force, is no longer up to the job and is arrogent, refuses to consider a change of planand will not listen. These are serious criticisms indeed and things can not be allowed to go on like this.
It looks like there is a serious deficiency of communication and that what we need is some meaningful contact between Gary Mills and everybody out here, to clear the air and in an attempt to put our collective mind at rest.
If Gary really has the level of confidence he appears to have, then it should easily be within his ability to tell the fans exactly what his thinking is and why he is approaching the job in hand the way he is doing so and to answer their criticisms and queries. Genuine fans are certainly singing from the same sheet, but the difference between feeling involved and feeling alienated can be extremely small, especially during a downturn.
So, Gary, please share your thoughts with us, address us from the heart, meet with us, put our minds at rest, before the critics overwhelm us.
nearlyman
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7:48pm Wed 20 Feb 13
duffy wrote:Respect and football fans are words which do not seem to sit happily together on here................
Not sure if he should stay or go at the moment but for gods sake some of the abuse is frankly embarrassing. The guy did a Wembley double and promotion, whatever happens he at least deserves a level of respect.
.. along with loyalty for past good deeds.
OLD - HEAD
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7:50pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Mad for Minstermen
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7:51pm Wed 20 Feb 13
YO1 wrote:Surely he has had the respect but the party's over. Lets stick with him because of last season. No, the future of the club is more important than one bloke. This club has continued to move backwards, this time move it forward. There are 13 clubs in the premier league who I have seen play York in league games and many more who reached the premier who also played York in league games. No room for sentiments.
duffy wrote:Agreed
Not sure if he should stay or go at the moment but for gods sake some of the abuse is frankly embarrassing. The guy did a Wembley double and promotion, whatever happens he at least deserves a level of respect.
pitch bull
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8:01pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Mad for Minstermen
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8:03pm Wed 20 Feb 13
pitch bull wrote:Disgruntled fan, who are you, King Arthur?
Mad for minstermen critic or troll? Choose your sword sir....
pitch bull
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8:23pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Mad for Minstermen
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8:31pm Wed 20 Feb 13
pitch bull wrote:Too true, it really has to be take the rough with the smooth. Really enjoy the smooth, unfortunately experienced too much rough!
Mad for minstermen certainly not arthurian but entertained by your musings. Glad we can all beg to differ. Disappointed rather than disgruntled with the situation but i realised some seasons back not to take footie too seriously,it is an industry now nothing else.
rupertbehr
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8:36pm Wed 20 Feb 13
minstermen wrote:If this is true, and Millsy decides to accept an offer
tBe carefull what you wish for mills is 2nd favourte for the luton job with the bookies
(and who could blame him)
We should all hang our heads in shame.
Arrogant, stubborn, single minded, .....
Yes maybe, but he is also principled and a Gentleman to know.
We maybe a minority on this Blog, but
I'm damned if we're (GM supporters)
are gonna be a silent one !!!
Tug job
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9:20pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Mad for Minstermen wrote:I am pleased and proud to be one if it means I can remain objective, think for myself and be positive about the club I support.
Tug job wrote:Yep, you're a happy clapper !!!
Mad for Minstermen wrote:I thought the season was made up of 46 games? So, whatever happens on Saturday, there will be another 12 games left to play, another 36 points available. There's still a long way to go and, among our remaining fixtures, we have Accrington, Bristol Rovers, Wimbledon, Torquay and Dagenham - it is still on our own hands. But because I'm being objective and not panicking, some idiots will say I'm a 'happy clapper'.
If defeat at Oxford, what then ...we are getting closer to running onto the pitch and happy clapping Millsy for getting us all the way back to the Conference, job well done, carry him on your shoulders, hip hip hooray. Dump him now.
duffy
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9:22pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Mad for Minstermen wrote:I'm certainly not saying we should stick with him regardless, Christ I've had a go at him enough over the last couple of years and dont agree with too much he has done this season,and have generally being seen as a glass half empty poster anyway. However for what he has done for the club he will always have my gratitude and respect and I just don't see the need for some of the abusive comments. Two or three more poor results and I think that will probably be it but he should still go with our thanks not ridicule.
YO1 wrote:Surely he has had the respect but the party's over. Lets stick with him because of last season. No, the future of the club is more important than one bloke. This club has continued to move backwards, this time move it forward. There are 13 clubs in the premier league who I have seen play York in league games and many more who reached the premier who also played York in league games. No room for sentiments.
duffy wrote:Agreed
Not sure if he should stay or go at the moment but for gods sake some of the abuse is frankly embarrassing. The guy did a Wembley double and promotion, whatever happens he at least deserves a level of respect.
Tug job
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9:35pm Wed 20 Feb 13
openallhours wrote:So how many should be coming to watch? Our average last season was around 3,120. When we won the 4th Division title we only averaged a touch over 5,000. We struggled to take 8,000 to Wembley for the POF last May. Other than the occasional cup game we have never been a well supported club. That is the reality. It's not Mills's fault, the McGills fault, that's just how it is in York. With regards to your other, rather juvenile, point - this is a public forum and, like other posters, I shall post what I want when I want. If the reality doesn't match up to your fantasy you really do have some issues to address.
Tug job wrote:Whichever way you look at it, 2500 on Tuesday and 3500 on Saturday is a big drop on what we should be getting but the Mills effect is keeping fans away. Anyway, go and bother somebody else.
openallhours wrote: I like McGrath and compared to other signings he's been a breath of fresh air but - where as he's come here because of Mills, lots of fans are choosing not to come also because of Mills. I just hope that long after McGrath has left we still have a football club (well a league one anyway).You keep posting about fans not coming but our average attendance is around 700 up on last season. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
Peppa07
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9:39pm Wed 20 Feb 13
openallhours
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9:17am Thu 21 Feb 13
duffy
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9:33am Thu 21 Feb 13
DesLytlle'sCoolerBox
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9:59am Thu 21 Feb 13
openallhours
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10:11am Thu 21 Feb 13
duffy wrote:Exactly Duffy. It's not rocket science is it!
We win more home games and we get more people thought the turnstiles, people want to watch a winning team. It's also massive for next season if we stay up because of the league ruling on percentage of turnover. It could be the difference between a top half playing budget or bottom half playing budget. On top of that I would suggest the poor home form could impact on season ticket sales.
Dr Brian
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11:14am Thu 21 Feb 13
openallhours wrote:"Whichever way you look at it, 2500 on Tuesday and 3500 on Saturday is a big drop on what we should be getting but the Mills effect is keeping fans away."
Tug job wrote:Whichever way you look at it, 2500 on Tuesday and 3500 on Saturday is a big drop on what we should be getting but the Mills effect is keeping fans away. Anyway, go and bother somebody else.
openallhours wrote: I like McGrath and compared to other signings he's been a breath of fresh air but - where as he's come here because of Mills, lots of fans are choosing not to come also because of Mills. I just hope that long after McGrath has left we still have a football club (well a league one anyway).You keep posting about fans not coming but our average attendance is around 700 up on last season. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
That is indeed a good point crowds should be up more than 700 on average - we are in a higher division the away team bring many more fans than the handful that the conference teams (bar one or two) brought, perhaps that is proof that fans are not liking Mr Mills "play my way and lose tactics"?
Mills does seem tactically clueless this season and it seems his half time talks are designed to make the team play worse in the second half. Perhaps he is not cut out to be a league manager but a succesful non league boss?
Three matches coming up where we need results - defeat in all three SHOULD really be the end for Mills
The Legend Of Keith
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11:35am Thu 21 Feb 13
However, can I congratulate Head of Bommer Command, Duffy and Old-Head on producing some intelligent, balanced and considered contributions. If only a filter system could be applied to the other often mind numbing contributions!
Tough game this weekend and 3 points are desperately needed... but that could apply to all the remaining games!
OLD - HEAD
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1:28pm Thu 21 Feb 13
cambersdad
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3:03pm Thu 21 Feb 13
YCFC115 wrote:we don't want to see mills fail we just want him to put out a team that can be competertive and look like they at least want to win, then if they go down fighting they can still walk off the pitch with their heads up, instead of looking at their boots.
I simply cannot believe that any true York City fan wants to see Mills fail. He deserves our support but he seems determined to rub everyone up the wrong way. These are difficult times and he needs to learn from his mistakes and quickly.
Mad for Minstermen
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7:50pm Thu 21 Feb 13
The Legend Of Keith wrote:Yeah, and yours is one of them !!
I've not posted on here for a while as the comments often reflect our style of play this season... bemusing and lacking quality.
However, can I congratulate Head of Bommer Command, Duffy and Old-Head on producing some intelligent, balanced and considered contributions. If only a filter system could be applied to the other often mind numbing contributions!
Tough game this weekend and 3 points are desperately needed... but that could apply to all the remaining games!
uhtred
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8:52pm Thu 21 Feb 13
duffy wrote:Well said Duffy!
Not sure if he should stay or go at the moment but for gods sake some of the abuse is frankly embarrassing. The guy did a Wembley double and promotion, whatever happens he at least deserves a level of respect.
johnboy2882 says...
12:29pm Wed 20 Feb 13