Results have to improve quickly, declare York City board

York City’s yield from games has to improve soon for manager Gary Mills

York City’s yield from games has to improve soon for manager Gary Mills

Published in Sport York Press: Photograph of the Author by , Sports reporter

YORK City’s board want to see an improvement in the club’s results at Oxford United on Saturday.

Saturday’s 2-1 home defeat against Barnet meant the Minstermen extended their run without a victory to eight matches and communications director Sophie Hicks has admitted that an immediate upturn in the club’s fortunes is needed.

City’s last win came on New Year’s Day when promotion contenders Burton were seen off 3-0 at Bootham Crescent but, since that game, four points have been taken from a possible 24.

The team have scored five goals during that time, while shipping 14 and, during the last six matches, have had to rely on a goal direct from a corner, a penalty and an own goal to get on the scoresheet.

Gary Mills’ men remain seven points clear of the drop zone and have only dropped three places since that January 1 triumph but the club’s directors want to see a halt to the slide in form as soon as possible.

On the current situation, Hicks said: “The board were extremely disappointed with Saturday’s result. We felt that progress had been made during the week before because the performance against Gillingham was very good.

“But clearly, for the club and everyone associated with it, including our supporters, we are expecting an improvement in results, starting on Saturday.”

Last season’s double-winning Wembley manager Mills will take his side to an Oxford team who are without a home win in five matches since their New Year’s Day 1-0 triumph over Cheltenham at the Kassam Stadium.

The U’s did, however, end a sequence of five winless matches, including four defeats, over the weekend with a 1-0 victory at Plymouth.

City’s North Riding Senior Cup semi-final against Marske United, meanwhile, has been scheduled for next Wednesday (February 27).

It will take place at the Northern League first division’s GER Stadium and kicks off at 7.30pm.

Marske beat a youthful Middlesbrough team 2-1 in the last round and currently have former City striker Lev Yalcin on their books.

Admission for the game will be £5 for adults, £2.50 for OAPs and £2 for under-16s.

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12:07pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Wind Mills says...

Nice to see the board have finally come out and made a statement about the teams current poor form.

The way I read that is, Mills needs a result on Saturday or its bye bye.
Nice to see the board have finally come out and made a statement about the teams current poor form. The way I read that is, Mills needs a result on Saturday or its bye bye. Wind Mills
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12:11pm Tue 19 Feb 13

openallhours says...

Bit of a nothing article this. To say that the board are disappointed and are expecting better results is stating the obvious, and echos the feelings of most City fans (well the normal ones anyway).

I'd be more interested to know what the board are planning to do about it!
Bit of a nothing article this. To say that the board are disappointed and are expecting better results is stating the obvious, and echos the feelings of most City fans (well the normal ones anyway). I'd be more interested to know what the board are planning to do about it! openallhours
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12:17pm Tue 19 Feb 13

TerryYork says...

There's the dreaded vote of confidence. In fact, it's a step up from that, as they don't really say they are confident, but that they expect a result on saturday.

Pressure on.
There's the dreaded vote of confidence. In fact, it's a step up from that, as they don't really say they are confident, but that they expect a result on saturday. Pressure on. TerryYork
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12:27pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Fat Harry says...

The only response the board could give after Mills' "back me or sack me" challenge the other day.

He's as good as resigned, except he'll get a handsome pay-off.

Next stop, Luton?
The only response the board could give after Mills' "back me or sack me" challenge the other day. He's as good as resigned, except he'll get a handsome pay-off. Next stop, Luton? Fat Harry
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12:32pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Head of Bomber Command says...

Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years.
He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.
Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years. He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating. Head of Bomber Command
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12:38pm Tue 19 Feb 13

rick the artist says...

Wind Mills wrote:
Nice to see the board have finally come out and made a statement about the teams current poor form.

The way I read that is, Mills needs a result on Saturday or its bye bye.
I sincerely hope not!
i agree with bomber command with how he wants the team to play and both he and the team want encouragement and support and we will get through this sticky patch..
we have been beset with injuries to key players all season but i still feel we will end up mid table which i will be happy with.
keep calm and dont panic!
[quote][p][bold]Wind Mills[/bold] wrote: Nice to see the board have finally come out and made a statement about the teams current poor form. The way I read that is, Mills needs a result on Saturday or its bye bye.[/p][/quote]I sincerely hope not! i agree with bomber command with how he wants the team to play and both he and the team want encouragement and support and we will get through this sticky patch.. we have been beset with injuries to key players all season but i still feel we will end up mid table which i will be happy with. keep calm and dont panic! rick the artist
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1:06pm Tue 19 Feb 13

PositiveFootball says...

Head of Bomber Command wrote:
Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years.
He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.
Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.
[quote][p][bold]Head of Bomber Command[/bold] wrote: Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years. He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.[/p][/quote]Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish. PositiveFootball
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1:08pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Dr Brian says...

Mills has 3 tough games coming up - Oxford and Rotherham away and then League Cup finalists Bradford City at home - if the team fails to win any of those matches I think the board will have to look closely at sacking him.

We cannot live on last seasons results and are in danger of dropping out of the league. Mills's selections are clueless at the moment we are in a downward slide towards that trap door out of the league. I would hate to see Mills go but no way do I want to see YCFC back in the conference,

C'mon Gary forget the pretty football pick teams to grind out results and lets get the points we need for safety.
Mills has 3 tough games coming up - Oxford and Rotherham away and then League Cup finalists Bradford City at home - if the team fails to win any of those matches I think the board will have to look closely at sacking him. We cannot live on last seasons results and are in danger of dropping out of the league. Mills's selections are clueless at the moment we are in a downward slide towards that trap door out of the league. I would hate to see Mills go but no way do I want to see YCFC back in the conference, C'mon Gary forget the pretty football pick teams to grind out results and lets get the points we need for safety. Dr Brian
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1:16pm Tue 19 Feb 13

old_school_minsterman says...

Gary Mills Barmy Army! Wonder how many fans singing that at Wembley (if they bothered to go) twice, have now turned against him and are saying he should be sacked!?

See where we are at the end of the season. If we are in the bottom 2 I would be very surprised!

Keep the Faith!
Gary Mills Barmy Army! Wonder how many fans singing that at Wembley (if they bothered to go) twice, have now turned against him and are saying he should be sacked!? See where we are at the end of the season. If we are in the bottom 2 I would be very surprised! Keep the Faith! old_school_minsterman
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1:20pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Wind Mills says...

PositiveFootball wrote:
Head of Bomber Command wrote:
Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years.
He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.
Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.
So you would rather we play pretty football and we go down?

Pretty football doesnt always win you matches, Arsenal are proof of that.

Wouldnt it better to adapt our tatics or formation to win matches and stay up.

I am a sensible supporter but find it very difficult to get behind what Gary is trying to achieve, when it threatens the survival of my beloved York City
[quote][p][bold]PositiveFootball[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Head of Bomber Command[/bold] wrote: Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years. He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.[/p][/quote]Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.[/p][/quote]So you would rather we play pretty football and we go down? Pretty football doesnt always win you matches, Arsenal are proof of that. Wouldnt it better to adapt our tatics or formation to win matches and stay up. I am a sensible supporter but find it very difficult to get behind what Gary is trying to achieve, when it threatens the survival of my beloved York City Wind Mills
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1:39pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Let It Loose says...

I think it would be a mistake to sack Mills at this stage of the season, and could risk the league status. York have a good manager for the first time in donkey's years and it would be a mistake not to stick by him through a dodgy spell. Hold your nerve and accept a respectable lower mid table position at the end of the season.

Having followed league 2 football for a number of years now (too long) you have to accept that defeats to the Barnets and the Wimbledons do happen. There isn't a great deal in the league between the top and bottom. The main problem is resolving unrealistic expectations of supporters who expect a promotion push in the first year back, and easy home wins against the 'lesser' teams in the league. This shows a lack of understanding and respect for League 2. York City are a low budget club so to expect immediate success is nonsense. It has to be built slowly and changing the manager at the first sign of a crisis is not the way to do it.
I think it would be a mistake to sack Mills at this stage of the season, and could risk the league status. York have a good manager for the first time in donkey's years and it would be a mistake not to stick by him through a dodgy spell. Hold your nerve and accept a respectable lower mid table position at the end of the season. Having followed league 2 football for a number of years now (too long) you have to accept that defeats to the Barnets and the Wimbledons do happen. There isn't a great deal in the league between the top and bottom. The main problem is resolving unrealistic expectations of supporters who expect a promotion push in the first year back, and easy home wins against the 'lesser' teams in the league. This shows a lack of understanding and respect for League 2. York City are a low budget club so to expect immediate success is nonsense. It has to be built slowly and changing the manager at the first sign of a crisis is not the way to do it. Let It Loose
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1:40pm Tue 19 Feb 13

keith&carol says...

i would much rather us TRY to play the attractive stuff like against chesterfield away & gillingham and admire Garys priciples of playing football the right way BUT my and most other peoples gripes are in games like chesterfield and the barnet game is when it so obviously to everyone that it just isnt working he seems too stubborn to change it, i was pleased to see jason come on on saturday but to do a straight swap for ranks you could hear the whole ground sigh as we knew nothing would change.come on gary i am a big admirerer of yours BUT be man enough to change the system when its not working out and by all means take the plaudits when it does
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i would much rather us TRY to play the attractive stuff like against chesterfield away & gillingham and admire Garys priciples of playing football the right way BUT my and most other peoples gripes are in games like chesterfield and the barnet game is when it so obviously to everyone that it just isnt working he seems too stubborn to change it, i was pleased to see jason come on on saturday but to do a straight swap for ranks you could hear the whole ground sigh as we knew nothing would change.come on gary i am a big admirerer of yours BUT be man enough to change the system when its not working out and by all means take the plaudits when it does . keith&carol
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1:43pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Dr Brian says...

Wind Mills wrote:
PositiveFootball wrote:
Head of Bomber Command wrote:
Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years.
He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.
Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.
So you would rather we play pretty football and we go down?

Pretty football doesnt always win you matches, Arsenal are proof of that.

Wouldnt it better to adapt our tatics or formation to win matches and stay up.

I am a sensible supporter but find it very difficult to get behind what Gary is trying to achieve, when it threatens the survival of my beloved York City
Well said.

We will still be here in years to come when Gary Mills has gone and like any York City supporter I want to be supporting a football league team in future years.

Sentiment is one thing - Yes Mills got York City out of the conference but he could also take us back there if we don't start winning matches. Where we are now I would rather see York City winning ugly then losing but playing attractive football. If we go down I think the fams will dessert the club and if that happens it will not be long nefore we are part time - that is why it is essential York City have to start winning soon hopefully with Mills at the helm but if he cannot do the job then with somebody else (no idea who!) who can get the points we need for safety.
[quote][p][bold]Wind Mills[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PositiveFootball[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Head of Bomber Command[/bold] wrote: Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years. He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.[/p][/quote]Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.[/p][/quote]So you would rather we play pretty football and we go down? Pretty football doesnt always win you matches, Arsenal are proof of that. Wouldnt it better to adapt our tatics or formation to win matches and stay up. I am a sensible supporter but find it very difficult to get behind what Gary is trying to achieve, when it threatens the survival of my beloved York City[/p][/quote]Well said. We will still be here in years to come when Gary Mills has gone and like any York City supporter I want to be supporting a football league team in future years. Sentiment is one thing - Yes Mills got York City out of the conference but he could also take us back there if we don't start winning matches. Where we are now I would rather see York City winning ugly then losing but playing attractive football. If we go down I think the fams will dessert the club and if that happens it will not be long nefore we are part time - that is why it is essential York City have to start winning soon hopefully with Mills at the helm but if he cannot do the job then with somebody else (no idea who!) who can get the points we need for safety. Dr Brian
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1:43pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Dr Brian says...

Wind Mills wrote:
PositiveFootball wrote:
Head of Bomber Command wrote:
Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years.
He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.
Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.
So you would rather we play pretty football and we go down?

Pretty football doesnt always win you matches, Arsenal are proof of that.

Wouldnt it better to adapt our tatics or formation to win matches and stay up.

I am a sensible supporter but find it very difficult to get behind what Gary is trying to achieve, when it threatens the survival of my beloved York City
Well said.

We will still be here in years to come when Gary Mills has gone and like any York City supporter I want to be supporting a football league team in future years.

Sentiment is one thing - Yes Mills got York City out of the conference but he could also take us back there if we don't start winning matches. Where we are now I would rather see York City winning ugly then losing but playing attractive football. If we go down I think the fams will dessert the club and if that happens it will not be long nefore we are part time - that is why it is essential York City have to start winning soon hopefully with Mills at the helm but if he cannot do the job then with somebody else (no idea who!) who can get the points we need for safety.
[quote][p][bold]Wind Mills[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PositiveFootball[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Head of Bomber Command[/bold] wrote: Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years. He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.[/p][/quote]Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.[/p][/quote]So you would rather we play pretty football and we go down? Pretty football doesnt always win you matches, Arsenal are proof of that. Wouldnt it better to adapt our tatics or formation to win matches and stay up. I am a sensible supporter but find it very difficult to get behind what Gary is trying to achieve, when it threatens the survival of my beloved York City[/p][/quote]Well said. We will still be here in years to come when Gary Mills has gone and like any York City supporter I want to be supporting a football league team in future years. Sentiment is one thing - Yes Mills got York City out of the conference but he could also take us back there if we don't start winning matches. Where we are now I would rather see York City winning ugly then losing but playing attractive football. If we go down I think the fams will dessert the club and if that happens it will not be long nefore we are part time - that is why it is essential York City have to start winning soon hopefully with Mills at the helm but if he cannot do the job then with somebody else (no idea who!) who can get the points we need for safety. Dr Brian
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2:24pm Tue 19 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

I dont envy Gary Mills task to improve results, but I do wish him well. Three very tough games coming up. Even with Sir Alex Ferguson in charge I would not expect City to beat Oxford, Rotherham and Bradford City. But I suppose that even if we got two draws and a defeat it could be classed as getting improved results.
I dont envy Gary Mills task to improve results, but I do wish him well. Three very tough games coming up. Even with Sir Alex Ferguson in charge I would not expect City to beat Oxford, Rotherham and Bradford City. But I suppose that even if we got two draws and a defeat it could be classed as getting improved results. OLD - HEAD
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2:28pm Tue 19 Feb 13

duffy says...

I'm actually quite surprised by the statement from Sophie. I was expecting a far more supportive quote than that given last season and the mutual respect between the McGills and Gary.
I'm actually quite surprised by the statement from Sophie. I was expecting a far more supportive quote than that given last season and the mutual respect between the McGills and Gary. duffy
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3:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Ycfc85 says...

Some very level headed and sensible arguments from both sides on here today- nice to read

I'd personally love to see Gary stay and get us out of this mess, though I do concur with some posts that he's being far too stubborn with his tactics and that legue two might require a little bit more than relying on our pacey front three!
Some very level headed and sensible arguments from both sides on here today- nice to read I'd personally love to see Gary stay and get us out of this mess, though I do concur with some posts that he's being far too stubborn with his tactics and that legue two might require a little bit more than relying on our pacey front three! Ycfc85
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3:21pm Tue 19 Feb 13

AndyK says...

So an interesting quote from the board. We will see.

However, IMO I feel that GM's relationship with many supporters is very strained now. His attitude is all wrong and I for one feel insulted by his actions and words over the past few weeks and days. In other words he has lost my respect and I am thinking do I really want to go to another match this season. I'm not sure yet.

I have supported the club since 1968 and will continue to do so. If I pay my money I expect the manager to respect the opinions of many supporters. I do want GM to get the sack, but I do want to see 442 and a change of approach that might help us win a few games.

If GM gets sacked he has mainly him self to blame and also those players who have let him down recently. I wish you well for Saturday GM and the team.
So an interesting quote from the board. We will see. However, IMO I feel that GM's relationship with many supporters is very strained now. His attitude is all wrong and I for one feel insulted by his actions and words over the past few weeks and days. In other words he has lost my respect and I am thinking do I really want to go to another match this season. I'm not sure yet. I have supported the club since 1968 and will continue to do so. If I pay my money I expect the manager to respect the opinions of many supporters. I do want GM to get the sack, but I do want to see 442 and a change of approach that might help us win a few games. If GM gets sacked he has mainly him self to blame and also those players who have let him down recently. I wish you well for Saturday GM and the team. AndyK
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4:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13

openallhours says...

AndyK wrote:
So an interesting quote from the board. We will see. However, IMO I feel that GM's relationship with many supporters is very strained now. His attitude is all wrong and I for one feel insulted by his actions and words over the past few weeks and days. In other words he has lost my respect and I am thinking do I really want to go to another match this season. I'm not sure yet. I have supported the club since 1968 and will continue to do so. If I pay my money I expect the manager to respect the opinions of many supporters. I do want GM to get the sack, but I do want to see 442 and a change of approach that might help us win a few games. If GM gets sacked he has mainly him self to blame and also those players who have let him down recently. I wish you well for Saturday GM and the team.
Very well put - happy clappers take note!
[quote][p][bold]AndyK[/bold] wrote: So an interesting quote from the board. We will see. However, IMO I feel that GM's relationship with many supporters is very strained now. His attitude is all wrong and I for one feel insulted by his actions and words over the past few weeks and days. In other words he has lost my respect and I am thinking do I really want to go to another match this season. I'm not sure yet. I have supported the club since 1968 and will continue to do so. If I pay my money I expect the manager to respect the opinions of many supporters. I do want GM to get the sack, but I do want to see 442 and a change of approach that might help us win a few games. If GM gets sacked he has mainly him self to blame and also those players who have let him down recently. I wish you well for Saturday GM and the team.[/p][/quote]Very well put - happy clappers take note! openallhours
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4:26pm Tue 19 Feb 13

rupertbehr says...

PositiveFootball wrote:
Head of Bomber Command wrote:
Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years.
He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.
Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.
PF ....... Agreed son, the only problem is ........some are not TRYING !!!
Oxford, followed by Rotherham and Bradford, could be our and GM's defining moment.
Good Luck to one and All.
[quote][p][bold]PositiveFootball[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Head of Bomber Command[/bold] wrote: Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years. He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.[/p][/quote]Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.[/p][/quote]PF ....... Agreed son, the only problem is ........some are not TRYING !!! Oxford, followed by Rotherham and Bradford, could be our and GM's defining moment. Good Luck to one and All. rupertbehr
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5:22pm Tue 19 Feb 13

joejamestom says...

Good manager with a great idea & vision but without the players to see it through, in hindsight some of his loyalty to his promotion squad was misplaced. All that matters is grinding out some results with tactics that work for the players he can field. If we cannot score do not concede sloppy goals, somewhere along the way our players will start to score in the mean time all hands to the pumps boys.
Talk of sacking managers is just part of a negative blame culture espoused by those who see themselves as expert spectators. Work hard for the club your manager & your fans & we will appreciate the effort just not enough the last few weeks. Come up with a combination at the back that really works & use the talents we have available Blairs pace Rankines strength , Walkers guile & Chambers trickery & in combination we should grind out enough points. Keeping faith but understandably nervous.
Good manager with a great idea & vision but without the players to see it through, in hindsight some of his loyalty to his promotion squad was misplaced. All that matters is grinding out some results with tactics that work for the players he can field. If we cannot score do not concede sloppy goals, somewhere along the way our players will start to score in the mean time all hands to the pumps boys. Talk of sacking managers is just part of a negative blame culture espoused by those who see themselves as expert spectators. Work hard for the club your manager & your fans & we will appreciate the effort just not enough the last few weeks. Come up with a combination at the back that really works & use the talents we have available Blairs pace Rankines strength , Walkers guile & Chambers trickery & in combination we should grind out enough points. Keeping faith but understandably nervous. joejamestom
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5:43pm Tue 19 Feb 13

duffy says...

I think this season is a mix of a few things. Lower budget, injuries to one or two key players,again one or two poor signings and finally a loss in confidence within the squad. Mills has then started panicking to a certain degree with both the loan signings and going back to pushing players he feels he can rely on out of position. He was probably unlucky right from the start of the season when he failed to sign a good few targets and in my view was up against it from there onwards. We probably just about have enough to stay up with a fully fit squad but I still think its going to be 50/50 if he stays.
Not an easy decision.
I think this season is a mix of a few things. Lower budget, injuries to one or two key players,again one or two poor signings and finally a loss in confidence within the squad. Mills has then started panicking to a certain degree with both the loan signings and going back to pushing players he feels he can rely on out of position. He was probably unlucky right from the start of the season when he failed to sign a good few targets and in my view was up against it from there onwards. We probably just about have enough to stay up with a fully fit squad but I still think its going to be 50/50 if he stays. Not an easy decision. duffy
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5:48pm Tue 19 Feb 13

THETELLEROFTALES says...

I don't want Gary Mills to be sacked. I also don't expct him to walk away from the club.
He wants his team to play 4-3-3. Well ok, he's the manager so thats his choice.
Does 4-3-3- actually work at Div 2 level?
Well.yes. A number of teams play this way.
There is very broad assumption that all pro footballers can adapt to any style/method of play. this is wildly inaccurate in my opinion.
Has Gary Mills got a squad of players who can successfully play 4-3-3? The answer would seem to be he hasn't...and that's the big problem. The players themselves are not good enough...and if Captain Smith plays, York will almost certainly concede one goal which means they have to score 2 to get the 3 points...hence the number of draw and 'big points won' thisseason.

Put another way...right now it's a real mess. I just hope Gay Mills sorts it out and drops those players who are obviously struggling at this level and who simply are not suited to 4-3-3.
I don't want Gary Mills to be sacked. I also don't expct him to walk away from the club. He wants his team to play 4-3-3. Well ok, he's the manager so thats his choice. Does 4-3-3- actually work at Div 2 level? Well.yes. A number of teams play this way. There is very broad assumption that all pro footballers can adapt to any style/method of play. this is wildly inaccurate in my opinion. Has Gary Mills got a squad of players who can successfully play 4-3-3? The answer would seem to be he hasn't...and that's the big problem. The players themselves are not good enough...and if Captain Smith plays, York will almost certainly concede one goal which means they have to score 2 to get the 3 points...hence the number of draw and 'big points won' thisseason. Put another way...right now it's a real mess. I just hope Gay Mills sorts it out and drops those players who are obviously struggling at this level and who simply are not suited to 4-3-3. THETELLEROFTALES
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5:59pm Tue 19 Feb 13

duffy says...

THETELLEROFTALES wrote:
I don't want Gary Mills to be sacked. I also don't expct him to walk away from the club.
He wants his team to play 4-3-3. Well ok, he's the manager so thats his choice.
Does 4-3-3- actually work at Div 2 level?
Well.yes. A number of teams play this way.
There is very broad assumption that all pro footballers can adapt to any style/method of play. this is wildly inaccurate in my opinion.
Has Gary Mills got a squad of players who can successfully play 4-3-3? The answer would seem to be he hasn't...and that's the big problem. The players themselves are not good enough...and if Captain Smith plays, York will almost certainly concede one goal which means they have to score 2 to get the 3 points...hence the number of draw and 'big points won' thisseason.

Put another way...right now it's a real mess. I just hope Gay Mills sorts it out and drops those players who are obviously struggling at this level and who simply are not suited to 4-3-3.
Well in a catalogue of abuse you're the first to call him gay.
[quote][p][bold]THETELLEROFTALES[/bold] wrote: I don't want Gary Mills to be sacked. I also don't expct him to walk away from the club. He wants his team to play 4-3-3. Well ok, he's the manager so thats his choice. Does 4-3-3- actually work at Div 2 level? Well.yes. A number of teams play this way. There is very broad assumption that all pro footballers can adapt to any style/method of play. this is wildly inaccurate in my opinion. Has Gary Mills got a squad of players who can successfully play 4-3-3? The answer would seem to be he hasn't...and that's the big problem. The players themselves are not good enough...and if Captain Smith plays, York will almost certainly concede one goal which means they have to score 2 to get the 3 points...hence the number of draw and 'big points won' thisseason. Put another way...right now it's a real mess. I just hope Gay Mills sorts it out and drops those players who are obviously struggling at this level and who simply are not suited to 4-3-3.[/p][/quote]Well in a catalogue of abuse you're the first to call him gay. duffy
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6:00pm Tue 19 Feb 13

neutral observer 2 says...

Sack Mills and you can forget it.
McGill was only just recently cooing how City were going to break even this season.
Could be an explanation as to why we couldnt land targets.
Wont be long before we get a "we're off" statement from the McGills either.
Sack Mills and you can forget it. McGill was only just recently cooing how City were going to break even this season. Could be an explanation as to why we couldnt land targets. Wont be long before we get a "we're off" statement from the McGills either. neutral observer 2
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6:11pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Mad for Minstermen says...

openallhours wrote:
AndyK wrote:
So an interesting quote from the board. We will see. However, IMO I feel that GM's relationship with many supporters is very strained now. His attitude is all wrong and I for one feel insulted by his actions and words over the past few weeks and days. In other words he has lost my respect and I am thinking do I really want to go to another match this season. I'm not sure yet. I have supported the club since 1968 and will continue to do so. If I pay my money I expect the manager to respect the opinions of many supporters. I do want GM to get the sack, but I do want to see 442 and a change of approach that might help us win a few games. If GM gets sacked he has mainly him self to blame and also those players who have let him down recently. I wish you well for Saturday GM and the team.
Very well put - happy clappers take note!
Here, here, we'll said, I've been going since1971. I still support the team as always but have ceased turning up week in, week out whilst Mills continues with his ridiculous team selection and predictable tactics which every other manager in this div are aware of.
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AndyK[/bold] wrote: So an interesting quote from the board. We will see. However, IMO I feel that GM's relationship with many supporters is very strained now. His attitude is all wrong and I for one feel insulted by his actions and words over the past few weeks and days. In other words he has lost my respect and I am thinking do I really want to go to another match this season. I'm not sure yet. I have supported the club since 1968 and will continue to do so. If I pay my money I expect the manager to respect the opinions of many supporters. I do want GM to get the sack, but I do want to see 442 and a change of approach that might help us win a few games. If GM gets sacked he has mainly him self to blame and also those players who have let him down recently. I wish you well for Saturday GM and the team.[/p][/quote]Very well put - happy clappers take note![/p][/quote]Here, here, we'll said, I've been going since1971. I still support the team as always but have ceased turning up week in, week out whilst Mills continues with his ridiculous team selection and predictable tactics which every other manager in this div are aware of. Mad for Minstermen
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6:16pm Tue 19 Feb 13

RooBeck says...

Too many people on this thread are getting over emotive, somewhat rude and overall, very panicky!! We need some calm heads/voices to steady the ship. Give Gary Mills and his staff the chance to pull things around, though it has to be conceded, that if we are pointless after the Bradford City game, then, I might agree with some sort of an in-depth review of the playing staff!! Currently, we are second-guessing on here - but whatever has caused this squad of players to somehow go flat , then, players and coaching/managerial staff have to address this and turn it around because this manager and players are good enough for this league, so let's go and grab the points!! PS. Have you seen the none concessional prices at Oxford and Rotherham??! By comparison, our admission fees are a give away!! COYR - we can battle it out and get those 50 points!!
Too many people on this thread are getting over emotive, somewhat rude and overall, very panicky!! We need some calm heads/voices to steady the ship. Give Gary Mills and his staff the chance to pull things around, though it has to be conceded, that if we are pointless after the Bradford City game, then, I might agree with some sort of an in-depth review of the playing staff!! Currently, we are second-guessing on here - but whatever has caused this squad of players to somehow go flat , then, players and coaching/managerial staff have to address this and turn it around because this manager and players are good enough for this league, so let's go and grab the points!! PS. Have you seen the none concessional prices at Oxford and Rotherham??! By comparison, our admission fees are a give away!! COYR - we can battle it out and get those 50 points!! RooBeck
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6:22pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Mad for Minstermen says...

Anyone adding to this forum, for a laugh could you start your thread with either of the titles
Happy Clapper - pro Mills keep him, or
Sack Mills - Want Mills to get the chop!
Will give an easy head count of pro or against the gaffer.
Anyone adding to this forum, for a laugh could you start your thread with either of the titles Happy Clapper - pro Mills keep him, or Sack Mills - Want Mills to get the chop! Will give an easy head count of pro or against the gaffer. Mad for Minstermen
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6:36pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Dortmun says...

Now its time for the players Mills has shown all his faith in to perform and save his job.
Now its time for the players Mills has shown all his faith in to perform and save his job. Dortmun
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6:40pm Tue 19 Feb 13

nearlyman says...

Mills should just say up yours you impatient and ungrateful lot. there has been More success recently than for ages, attractive football is played more often than not. And now we hit a harder league and a little low point as much down to the players ineptitude all the headless chickens start having panic attacks. Get behind them for goodness sake theend of the season is the time to decide whether or not to stick with mills.no one else, even if the clubcould afford it will make a blindest difference to the situation. Leave manager sacking to the idiot chairman of Chelsea ,.....look where it's got them
Mills should just say up yours you impatient and ungrateful lot. there has been More success recently than for ages, attractive football is played more often than not. And now we hit a harder league and a little low point as much down to the players ineptitude all the headless chickens start having panic attacks. Get behind them for goodness sake theend of the season is the time to decide whether or not to stick with mills.no one else, even if the clubcould afford it will make a blindest difference to the situation. Leave manager sacking to the idiot chairman of Chelsea ,.....look where it's got them nearlyman
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6:51pm Tue 19 Feb 13

twang says...

I for one want GM to go unless there is a removal of his attitude to only play one way, a good manager does his homework and knows how the opposition play and adapt accordingley.
4-3-3 is great to watch when you have ability within the playing squad and the opporsition dont suss you out, but we have been sussed out so the style must be be adapted sometimes on a game by game or half by half basis. I agree there has been some reduction in the amount spent on players so its more important to get a few correct players rather than a load of journey ment, GM transfers have been at best questionable except for 3 or 4 of the 20 players brought in, Bullock etc come to mind.
I hope GM and the players can turn this around but this won happen constantly playing inaffective 4-3-3
I for one want GM to go unless there is a removal of his attitude to only play one way, a good manager does his homework and knows how the opposition play and adapt accordingley. 4-3-3 is great to watch when you have ability within the playing squad and the opporsition dont suss you out, but we have been sussed out so the style must be be adapted sometimes on a game by game or half by half basis. I agree there has been some reduction in the amount spent on players so its more important to get a few correct players rather than a load of journey ment, GM transfers have been at best questionable except for 3 or 4 of the 20 players brought in, Bullock etc come to mind. I hope GM and the players can turn this around but this won happen constantly playing inaffective 4-3-3 twang
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6:55pm Tue 19 Feb 13

greaves11 says...

less coffee more football when training good luck city sack the rubbish keep mr mills.
less coffee more football when training good luck city sack the rubbish keep mr mills. greaves11
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7:13pm Tue 19 Feb 13

greaves11 says...

coffee causes fatigue and tiredness
coffee causes fatigue and tiredness greaves11
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7:17pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Keith...lad says...

Going to keep it simple.If we finish 3rd bottom of league 2 i as a 25yr York City supporter would be more than happy with the season.We can build from there have a good clear out in the close season and buy league 2 standard players to complement some of the current players.
Gary Mills in my eyes will bring more success in time to York City but this will not happen overnight.Build season on season.
The team are going though a sticky patch but at a time like this supporters like myself need to back management,players more than ever.
Going to keep it simple.If we finish 3rd bottom of league 2 i as a 25yr York City supporter would be more than happy with the season.We can build from there have a good clear out in the close season and buy league 2 standard players to complement some of the current players. Gary Mills in my eyes will bring more success in time to York City but this will not happen overnight.Build season on season. The team are going though a sticky patch but at a time like this supporters like myself need to back management,players more than ever. Keith...lad
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7:35pm Tue 19 Feb 13

YCFC am byth says...

nearlyman wrote:
Mills should just say up yours you impatient and ungrateful lot. there has been More success recently than for ages, attractive football is played more often than not. And now we hit a harder league and a little low point as much down to the players ineptitude all the headless chickens start having panic attacks. Get behind them for goodness sake theend of the season is the time to decide whether or not to stick with mills.no one else, even if the clubcould afford it will make a blindest difference to the situation. Leave manager sacking to the idiot chairman of Chelsea ,.....look where it's got them
Agreed nearlyman. a good summary indeed
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: Mills should just say up yours you impatient and ungrateful lot. there has been More success recently than for ages, attractive football is played more often than not. And now we hit a harder league and a little low point as much down to the players ineptitude all the headless chickens start having panic attacks. Get behind them for goodness sake theend of the season is the time to decide whether or not to stick with mills.no one else, even if the clubcould afford it will make a blindest difference to the situation. Leave manager sacking to the idiot chairman of Chelsea ,.....look where it's got them[/p][/quote]Agreed nearlyman. a good summary indeed YCFC am byth
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7:40pm Tue 19 Feb 13

johnno65 says...

The bad run will come to an end and we will get the points we need, we have made a few mistakes and been punished the players and GM know this, we are still above the drop and just need a bit of a run and we wil be mid table.
If your going to the Maske game give yourself plenty of time it will be busy round Middlesrough with the visit of Chelsea in the cup game.
The bad run will come to an end and we will get the points we need, we have made a few mistakes and been punished the players and GM know this, we are still above the drop and just need a bit of a run and we wil be mid table. If your going to the Maske game give yourself plenty of time it will be busy round Middlesrough with the visit of Chelsea in the cup game. johnno65
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8:05pm Tue 19 Feb 13

garnham says...

I do not believe that the board have any room to move on this. There seems to be a few that think any change will have a positive effect.

It really is down to the 11 men who cross the white stuff on match day.

I recall our last season in the league Much the same as what is happening now. The challenge for the current squad playing & non playing is to keep us in the league. I am behind them all the way & know that this time around we can do it.

C'mon believe in York City you doubting Tomas's. The only change that will have any effect is for all supporters to get behind the club at match days.
I know all the true city supporters will do just that.
I do not believe that the board have any room to move on this. There seems to be a few that think any change will have a positive effect. It really is down to the 11 men who cross the white stuff on match day. I recall our last season in the league Much the same as what is happening now. The challenge for the current squad playing & non playing is to keep us in the league. I am behind them all the way & know that this time around we can do it. C'mon believe in York City you doubting Tomas's. The only change that will have any effect is for all supporters to get behind the club at match days. I know all the true city supporters will do just that. garnham
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8:35pm Tue 19 Feb 13

thirsky says...

A sacking now, with little time left, wouldnt make sence unless the board have someone who they can take on immediately. Unless the potential manager has watched City recently and has some idea of the players and the way they play and possibley can see what potential, if any, they have then he wouldnt have any time left to turn things around. Regarding what has been said about the seriousness of out injury list, I cant say this has had much effect. With the exception of Chambers all the rest have not been regular team members. In some quarters it has been said that Chambers hasnt been much of a loss in any event. Whilst many other teams employ 433 which is the managers favoured style and one which the team play and know best the fact is we are not as good at it as the others are. Finally, for now, my biggest complaint about the manager is his signings. He like, many before him, say they wont bring players in for the sake of it and who wont be an improvement on what is already here. His judgement therefore has been sadly lacking as none of his signings can get selected, other than on the bench. Is it not correct, to assume therefore, that his lack of judgement here is part of the deficiencies he shows in other respects.
A sacking now, with little time left, wouldnt make sence unless the board have someone who they can take on immediately. Unless the potential manager has watched City recently and has some idea of the players and the way they play and possibley can see what potential, if any, they have then he wouldnt have any time left to turn things around. Regarding what has been said about the seriousness of out injury list, I cant say this has had much effect. With the exception of Chambers all the rest have not been regular team members. In some quarters it has been said that Chambers hasnt been much of a loss in any event. Whilst many other teams employ 433 which is the managers favoured style and one which the team play and know best the fact is we are not as good at it as the others are. Finally, for now, my biggest complaint about the manager is his signings. He like, many before him, say they wont bring players in for the sake of it and who wont be an improvement on what is already here. His judgement therefore has been sadly lacking as none of his signings can get selected, other than on the bench. Is it not correct, to assume therefore, that his lack of judgement here is part of the deficiencies he shows in other respects. thirsky
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8:37pm Tue 19 Feb 13

carterjason says...

A lot of supporters want mills to suceed, but patience and threat of relegation growing every week is and has pushed us to breaking point. How many more games do you give him, if he goes then what.. torpey in charge being told to play 442 till end of season? Or a new man from outside to shake things up. I reckon 1more game win and stay till of season or theirs the door.
No matter what happens the club must stay upto survive.
A lot of supporters want mills to suceed, but patience and threat of relegation growing every week is and has pushed us to breaking point. How many more games do you give him, if he goes then what.. torpey in charge being told to play 442 till end of season? Or a new man from outside to shake things up. I reckon 1more game win and stay till of season or theirs the door. No matter what happens the club must stay upto survive. carterjason
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8:58pm Tue 19 Feb 13

YO1 says...

Yes let's sack the manager, call any supporter who disagrees a "happy clapper" and change our name to Luton. How many new managers have they had in the last few years and still going backwards!
A new manager is no guarantee of success, particularly at this stage of the season. Best scenario for me is a drastic improvement until the end of the season and then a complete clear out and rebuild the squad over the summer. The problem is that it should have happened last summer but our budget based upon predicted finances didn't allow sufficient funds, combined with Mills lack of knowledge of League 2 requirements.
Yes let's sack the manager, call any supporter who disagrees a "happy clapper" and change our name to Luton. How many new managers have they had in the last few years and still going backwards! A new manager is no guarantee of success, particularly at this stage of the season. Best scenario for me is a drastic improvement until the end of the season and then a complete clear out and rebuild the squad over the summer. The problem is that it should have happened last summer but our budget based upon predicted finances didn't allow sufficient funds, combined with Mills lack of knowledge of League 2 requirements. YO1
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9:03pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Southern Exile says...

He has brought this response on himself, if he won't change tactics then the tactics he is employing have to start bringing results.

Form is deteriorating week after week, it is pure fantasy to expect that to change without a change in approach, whether that is formation, team selection, motivation or ultimately the manager.

If (and I sincerely hope he does) he gets a result on Saturday through whatever combination of the above then fantastic, that's what we all want but recent games would suggest that is unlikely.

For all that go on Saturday cheer him and the team on because they need it but we can't maintain this slide much longer, something HAS to change.
He has brought this response on himself, if he won't change tactics then the tactics he is employing have to start bringing results. Form is deteriorating week after week, it is pure fantasy to expect that to change without a change in approach, whether that is formation, team selection, motivation or ultimately the manager. If (and I sincerely hope he does) he gets a result on Saturday through whatever combination of the above then fantastic, that's what we all want but recent games would suggest that is unlikely. For all that go on Saturday cheer him and the team on because they need it but we can't maintain this slide much longer, something HAS to change. Southern Exile
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9:15pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

OK we don't sack Mills, we stay up. what happens next season when he has signed crap players again and we are still struggling.
OK we don't sack Mills, we stay up. what happens next season when he has signed crap players again and we are still struggling. Helliwell's Not a Donkey
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9:21pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...

Also no result on Saturday, bye bye Monday if you read between the lines. I've also notice everytime a team comes to York, or York go to a team who are on a bad run, they always seem to beat us.
Also no result on Saturday, bye bye Monday if you read between the lines. I've also notice everytime a team comes to York, or York go to a team who are on a bad run, they always seem to beat us. Helliwell's Not a Donkey
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9:35pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Southern Exile says...

Wimbledon and Aldershot both winning tonight...

Let's hope for some late away goals
Wimbledon and Aldershot both winning tonight... Let's hope for some late away goals Southern Exile
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9:44pm Tue 19 Feb 13

carterjason says...

Can't rely on other teams results, we got to go out their and give it 100% and win a game of football because the pressure is well and truly on.
Can't rely on other teams results, we got to go out their and give it 100% and win a game of football because the pressure is well and truly on. carterjason
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9:51pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Southern Exile says...

True but as we aren't picking up points (only Torquay and Accrington have worse form) we could do with the teams around us losing, if nothing else it might buy us some time... something that is becoming increasing short in supply.
True but as we aren't picking up points (only Torquay and Accrington have worse form) we could do with the teams around us losing, if nothing else it might buy us some time... something that is becoming increasing short in supply. Southern Exile
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10:00pm Tue 19 Feb 13

big mobe says...

if we stay up with this manager and this regime, next season will be bad unless we sign players who are good enough for league 2. I dont think we have the money to build a decent side, neither does the management know how to play them if they had them.
if we stay up with this manager and this regime, next season will be bad unless we sign players who are good enough for league 2. I dont think we have the money to build a decent side, neither does the management know how to play them if they had them. big mobe
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10:10pm Tue 19 Feb 13

TOMCODYYCFC2469 says...

The players are making mistakes and letting gary down, they need to man up
and give100% to gary and the fans they will get him sacked and come end of season will be looking for new clubs also, Gary deserves better if he picks you on saturday show pride in the shirt and give him 100%.
The players are making mistakes and letting gary down, they need to man up and give100% to gary and the fans they will get him sacked and come end of season will be looking for new clubs also, Gary deserves better if he picks you on saturday show pride in the shirt and give him 100%. TOMCODYYCFC2469
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10:20pm Tue 19 Feb 13

thirsky says...

I hope we are still around next season to worry about next season. Surviving this season is the worry now.
Regarding this season, consider the saying that repeating doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the first signs of insanity??
I hope we are still around next season to worry about next season. Surviving this season is the worry now. Regarding this season, consider the saying that repeating doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the first signs of insanity?? thirsky
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11:25pm Tue 19 Feb 13

rogue84 says...

not sure if i am the only person who thinks this, but surely the players (minus the two newest lads) have to take a large slice of the blame for this?
once they cross the white-line, there's very little Mills can do. remember we drew 0-0 against the league leaders on tuesday night playing 4-3-3, we also got draws at Port Vale, Cheltenham, Southend, Exeter and Fleetwood.
saturday was a rotten performance, but how could it have been so different from tuesday? after a few days to digest things, a lot of the blame surely must sit with the players. perhaps after holding the leaders they thought they just had to turn up??
not sure if i am the only person who thinks this, but surely the players (minus the two newest lads) have to take a large slice of the blame for this? once they cross the white-line, there's very little Mills can do. remember we drew 0-0 against the league leaders on tuesday night playing 4-3-3, we also got draws at Port Vale, Cheltenham, Southend, Exeter and Fleetwood. saturday was a rotten performance, but how could it have been so different from tuesday? after a few days to digest things, a lot of the blame surely must sit with the players. perhaps after holding the leaders they thought they just had to turn up?? rogue84
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5:31am Wed 20 Feb 13

YoRkIe59 says...

its pretty crazy to say lets get to the end of the season and see where we are,if where we are is in the bottom two it could kill the club.my main concern it talk of Mills having lost the respect of the players i really hope that isn,t true because that would be the biggest problem in turning results round.Strange tho isnt it how often a team can be doing nothing a caretaker manager comes in and suddenly they are getting results.That isnt a Gary Mills must be sacked right now call by the way,just an observation.plenty of the people who are now expressing concerns about Mills and the team don,t want him sacked just want him to stop being so dammed stubborn,we need wins right now and tho i appreciate it being against the way he likes to play football,we need to win if that means winning ugly and playing the football thats more attractive do it when we are safe.
its pretty crazy to say lets get to the end of the season and see where we are,if where we are is in the bottom two it could kill the club.my main concern it talk of Mills having lost the respect of the players i really hope that isn,t true because that would be the biggest problem in turning results round.Strange tho isnt it how often a team can be doing nothing a caretaker manager comes in and suddenly they are getting results.That isnt a Gary Mills must be sacked right now call by the way,just an observation.plenty of the people who are now expressing concerns about Mills and the team don,t want him sacked just want him to stop being so dammed stubborn,we need wins right now and tho i appreciate it being against the way he likes to play football,we need to win if that means winning ugly and playing the football thats more attractive do it when we are safe. YoRkIe59
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7:29am Wed 20 Feb 13

YCFC115 says...

YoRkIe59 wrote:
its pretty crazy to say lets get to the end of the season and see where we are,if where we are is in the bottom two it could kill the club.my main concern it talk of Mills having lost the respect of the players i really hope that isn,t true because that would be the biggest problem in turning results round.Strange tho isnt it how often a team can be doing nothing a caretaker manager comes in and suddenly they are getting results.That isnt a Gary Mills must be sacked right now call by the way,just an observation.plenty of the people who are now expressing concerns about Mills and the team don,t want him sacked just want him to stop being so dammed stubborn,we need wins right now and tho i appreciate it being against the way he likes to play football,we need to win if that means winning ugly and playing the football thats more attractive do it when we are safe.
Stop on.

His stance sends out completely the wrong message to the Board, players, fans and opposition. He obviously thinks he is untouchable.

Every manager must learn how to win ugly and to change the formation depending upon the opponents and conditions. Mills is either very naive or just plain stupid.

Maybe, just maybe a more experienced football league manager is needed to get us out of this mess, the biggest fear is that Mills goes and Jason gives the job to Torpey on the cheap. That would be the final nail in the coffin.
[quote][p][bold]YoRkIe59[/bold] wrote: its pretty crazy to say lets get to the end of the season and see where we are,if where we are is in the bottom two it could kill the club.my main concern it talk of Mills having lost the respect of the players i really hope that isn,t true because that would be the biggest problem in turning results round.Strange tho isnt it how often a team can be doing nothing a caretaker manager comes in and suddenly they are getting results.That isnt a Gary Mills must be sacked right now call by the way,just an observation.plenty of the people who are now expressing concerns about Mills and the team don,t want him sacked just want him to stop being so dammed stubborn,we need wins right now and tho i appreciate it being against the way he likes to play football,we need to win if that means winning ugly and playing the football thats more attractive do it when we are safe.[/p][/quote]Stop on. His stance sends out completely the wrong message to the Board, players, fans and opposition. He obviously thinks he is untouchable. Every manager must learn how to win ugly and to change the formation depending upon the opponents and conditions. Mills is either very naive or just plain stupid. Maybe, just maybe a more experienced football league manager is needed to get us out of this mess, the biggest fear is that Mills goes and Jason gives the job to Torpey on the cheap. That would be the final nail in the coffin. YCFC115
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7:45am Wed 20 Feb 13

duffy says...

YCFC115 wrote:
YoRkIe59 wrote:
its pretty crazy to say lets get to the end of the season and see where we are,if where we are is in the bottom two it could kill the club.my main concern it talk of Mills having lost the respect of the players i really hope that isn,t true because that would be the biggest problem in turning results round.Strange tho isnt it how often a team can be doing nothing a caretaker manager comes in and suddenly they are getting results.That isnt a Gary Mills must be sacked right now call by the way,just an observation.plenty of the people who are now expressing concerns about Mills and the team don,t want him sacked just want him to stop being so dammed stubborn,we need wins right now and tho i appreciate it being against the way he likes to play football,we need to win if that means winning ugly and playing the football thats more attractive do it when we are safe.
Stop on.

His stance sends out completely the wrong message to the Board, players, fans and opposition. He obviously thinks he is untouchable.

Every manager must learn how to win ugly and to change the formation depending upon the opponents and conditions. Mills is either very naive or just plain stupid.

Maybe, just maybe a more experienced football league manager is needed to get us out of this mess, the biggest fear is that Mills goes and Jason gives the job to Torpey on the cheap. That would be the final nail in the coffin.
My biggest fear is Mills goes and we offer it to Westley.
[quote][p][bold]YCFC115[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YoRkIe59[/bold] wrote: its pretty crazy to say lets get to the end of the season and see where we are,if where we are is in the bottom two it could kill the club.my main concern it talk of Mills having lost the respect of the players i really hope that isn,t true because that would be the biggest problem in turning results round.Strange tho isnt it how often a team can be doing nothing a caretaker manager comes in and suddenly they are getting results.That isnt a Gary Mills must be sacked right now call by the way,just an observation.plenty of the people who are now expressing concerns about Mills and the team don,t want him sacked just want him to stop being so dammed stubborn,we need wins right now and tho i appreciate it being against the way he likes to play football,we need to win if that means winning ugly and playing the football thats more attractive do it when we are safe.[/p][/quote]Stop on. His stance sends out completely the wrong message to the Board, players, fans and opposition. He obviously thinks he is untouchable. Every manager must learn how to win ugly and to change the formation depending upon the opponents and conditions. Mills is either very naive or just plain stupid. Maybe, just maybe a more experienced football league manager is needed to get us out of this mess, the biggest fear is that Mills goes and Jason gives the job to Torpey on the cheap. That would be the final nail in the coffin.[/p][/quote]My biggest fear is Mills goes and we offer it to Westley. duffy
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9:17am Wed 20 Feb 13

DesLytlle'sCoolerBox says...

The more I think about it, the more I feel for Mills. Don't get me wrong I hate his attitude on changing the system and his dodgey substitutions etc. but you can't blame him for fyfield's inability to make a 10 yard pass, Blair has been a fraction of the player he was last year, Chambers is good one week and nonexistent the next. When you look at the squad and consider the amount of players that have played at this level and shown they can hack it probably goes some way to explaining our position. I think it's a hard job for whoever takes it (if GM goes that is)
The more I think about it, the more I feel for Mills. Don't get me wrong I hate his attitude on changing the system and his dodgey substitutions etc. but you can't blame him for fyfield's inability to make a 10 yard pass, Blair has been a fraction of the player he was last year, Chambers is good one week and nonexistent the next. When you look at the squad and consider the amount of players that have played at this level and shown they can hack it probably goes some way to explaining our position. I think it's a hard job for whoever takes it (if GM goes that is) DesLytlle'sCoolerBox
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9:19am Wed 20 Feb 13

THETELLEROFTALES says...

In the current climate anything is possible.

What happens if Luton come calling...after all Gary has a proven track record at that level.

I'm backing the boys to get a result at Oxford.
In the current climate anything is possible. What happens if Luton come calling...after all Gary has a proven track record at that level. I'm backing the boys to get a result at Oxford. THETELLEROFTALES
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9:21am Wed 20 Feb 13

duffy says...

DesLytlle'sCoolerBox wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I feel for Mills. Don't get me wrong I hate his attitude on changing the system and his dodgey substitutions etc. but you can't blame him for fyfield's inability to make a 10 yard pass, Blair has been a fraction of the player he was last year, Chambers is good one week and nonexistent the next. When you look at the squad and consider the amount of players that have played at this level and shown they can hack it probably goes some way to explaining our position. I think it's a hard job for whoever takes it (if GM goes that is)
I would also though argue that he made the decision to give Fyfield a new contract when a few of us were pointing out he was not good enough, only one small part of a pretty awfull season but Mills has to take some blame for decisions like that.
[quote][p][bold]DesLytlle'sCoolerBox[/bold] wrote: The more I think about it, the more I feel for Mills. Don't get me wrong I hate his attitude on changing the system and his dodgey substitutions etc. but you can't blame him for fyfield's inability to make a 10 yard pass, Blair has been a fraction of the player he was last year, Chambers is good one week and nonexistent the next. When you look at the squad and consider the amount of players that have played at this level and shown they can hack it probably goes some way to explaining our position. I think it's a hard job for whoever takes it (if GM goes that is)[/p][/quote]I would also though argue that he made the decision to give Fyfield a new contract when a few of us were pointing out he was not good enough, only one small part of a pretty awfull season but Mills has to take some blame for decisions like that. duffy
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9:40am Wed 20 Feb 13

DesLytlle'sCoolerBox says...

duffy wrote:
DesLytlle'sCoolerBox wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I feel for Mills. Don't get me wrong I hate his attitude on changing the system and his dodgey substitutions etc. but you can't blame him for fyfield's inability to make a 10 yard pass, Blair has been a fraction of the player he was last year, Chambers is good one week and nonexistent the next. When you look at the squad and consider the amount of players that have played at this level and shown they can hack it probably goes some way to explaining our position. I think it's a hard job for whoever takes it (if GM goes that is)
I would also though argue that he made the decision to give Fyfield a new contract when a few of us were pointing out he was not good enough, only one small part of a pretty awfull season but Mills has to take some blame for decisions like that.
Oh yeah don't get me wrong I'm not saying mills is blame free in all this. My point really was that when Mills goes its like the players have gotten away with their poor performances. Whether we play 4-4-2, 4-3-3 or whatever, if the strikers aren't good enough to get the goals, if the midfield can't create enough chances to compensate for poor finishing or get a few themselves, or the defence make error after error leading to goals, surely the formation is irrelevant? The players need to do their jobs, when playing 4-4-2 strikers still need to score, midfielders need to create and the defence needs to be able to go a game without gifting the opposition a goal. Frustrates me that when Mills goes all the players like performances will be excused cos after all we were playing 4-3-3 rather than 4-4-2
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DesLytlle'sCoolerBox[/bold] wrote: The more I think about it, the more I feel for Mills. Don't get me wrong I hate his attitude on changing the system and his dodgey substitutions etc. but you can't blame him for fyfield's inability to make a 10 yard pass, Blair has been a fraction of the player he was last year, Chambers is good one week and nonexistent the next. When you look at the squad and consider the amount of players that have played at this level and shown they can hack it probably goes some way to explaining our position. I think it's a hard job for whoever takes it (if GM goes that is)[/p][/quote]I would also though argue that he made the decision to give Fyfield a new contract when a few of us were pointing out he was not good enough, only one small part of a pretty awfull season but Mills has to take some blame for decisions like that.[/p][/quote]Oh yeah don't get me wrong I'm not saying mills is blame free in all this. My point really was that when Mills goes its like the players have gotten away with their poor performances. Whether we play 4-4-2, 4-3-3 or whatever, if the strikers aren't good enough to get the goals, if the midfield can't create enough chances to compensate for poor finishing or get a few themselves, or the defence make error after error leading to goals, surely the formation is irrelevant? The players need to do their jobs, when playing 4-4-2 strikers still need to score, midfielders need to create and the defence needs to be able to go a game without gifting the opposition a goal. Frustrates me that when Mills goes all the players like performances will be excused cos after all we were playing 4-3-3 rather than 4-4-2 DesLytlle'sCoolerBox
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9:48am Wed 20 Feb 13

duffy says...

DesLytlle'sCoolerBox wrote:
duffy wrote:
DesLytlle'sCoolerBox wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I feel for Mills. Don't get me wrong I hate his attitude on changing the system and his dodgey substitutions etc. but you can't blame him for fyfield's inability to make a 10 yard pass, Blair has been a fraction of the player he was last year, Chambers is good one week and nonexistent the next. When you look at the squad and consider the amount of players that have played at this level and shown they can hack it probably goes some way to explaining our position. I think it's a hard job for whoever takes it (if GM goes that is)
I would also though argue that he made the decision to give Fyfield a new contract when a few of us were pointing out he was not good enough, only one small part of a pretty awfull season but Mills has to take some blame for decisions like that.
Oh yeah don't get me wrong I'm not saying mills is blame free in all this. My point really was that when Mills goes its like the players have gotten away with their poor performances. Whether we play 4-4-2, 4-3-3 or whatever, if the strikers aren't good enough to get the goals, if the midfield can't create enough chances to compensate for poor finishing or get a few themselves, or the defence make error after error leading to goals, surely the formation is irrelevant? The players need to do their jobs, when playing 4-4-2 strikers still need to score, midfielders need to create and the defence needs to be able to go a game without gifting the opposition a goal. Frustrates me that when Mills goes all the players like performances will be excused cos after all we were playing 4-3-3 rather than 4-4-2
Lets be honest though the players always get away with it, it's the manager that's always the easy target.
[quote][p][bold]DesLytlle'sCoolerBox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DesLytlle'sCoolerBox[/bold] wrote: The more I think about it, the more I feel for Mills. Don't get me wrong I hate his attitude on changing the system and his dodgey substitutions etc. but you can't blame him for fyfield's inability to make a 10 yard pass, Blair has been a fraction of the player he was last year, Chambers is good one week and nonexistent the next. When you look at the squad and consider the amount of players that have played at this level and shown they can hack it probably goes some way to explaining our position. I think it's a hard job for whoever takes it (if GM goes that is)[/p][/quote]I would also though argue that he made the decision to give Fyfield a new contract when a few of us were pointing out he was not good enough, only one small part of a pretty awfull season but Mills has to take some blame for decisions like that.[/p][/quote]Oh yeah don't get me wrong I'm not saying mills is blame free in all this. My point really was that when Mills goes its like the players have gotten away with their poor performances. Whether we play 4-4-2, 4-3-3 or whatever, if the strikers aren't good enough to get the goals, if the midfield can't create enough chances to compensate for poor finishing or get a few themselves, or the defence make error after error leading to goals, surely the formation is irrelevant? The players need to do their jobs, when playing 4-4-2 strikers still need to score, midfielders need to create and the defence needs to be able to go a game without gifting the opposition a goal. Frustrates me that when Mills goes all the players like performances will be excused cos after all we were playing 4-3-3 rather than 4-4-2[/p][/quote]Lets be honest though the players always get away with it, it's the manager that's always the easy target. duffy
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10:01am Wed 20 Feb 13

Southern Exile says...

Doesn't the manager sign, select and motivate the players?
Doesn't the manager sign, select and motivate the players? Southern Exile
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10:07am Wed 20 Feb 13

DesLytlle'sCoolerBox says...

Southern Exile wrote:
Doesn't the manager sign, select and motivate the players?
So all this is Mills' fault then one way or another and when we get another manager in we'll all see how much of a brilliant squad we've got and we'll really push on? If the players play s*** then that's the way it is
[quote][p][bold]Southern Exile[/bold] wrote: Doesn't the manager sign, select and motivate the players?[/p][/quote]So all this is Mills' fault then one way or another and when we get another manager in we'll all see how much of a brilliant squad we've got and we'll really push on? If the players play s*** then that's the way it is DesLytlle'sCoolerBox
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10:30am Wed 20 Feb 13

Southern Exile says...

DesLytlle'sCoolerBox wrote:
Southern Exile wrote:
Doesn't the manager sign, select and motivate the players?
So all this is Mills' fault then one way or another and when we get another manager in we'll all see how much of a brilliant squad we've got and we'll really push on? If the players play s*** then that's the way it is
No but the manager has to take ultimate responsibility, different manager's do achieve different results with the same players, otherwise what is the point in having a manager at all?

Gary has signed these players, set the formation, selected the team and presumably motivated them, who else has more impact on the results?

Yes we achieved last year when we were a relatively large fish in a small pool, that is not the case now and we haven't adjusted, that adjustment can only come from the manager.

I like the guy, appreciate what he has done, but he needs to re-appraise and adjust and not stick his head in the sand.

The reason we have signed so many players is the lack of a plan B, he is signing players to try and fit the system, rather than getting the best out of what we have by picking the system for the players we have. We are up against much better teams and need to appreciate and cater for that. At the moment we aren't and show no signs that we are going to.

Returning to L2 was so important to this club. We can not risk returning to the Conference.

As fans we don't get to walk away when the going is bad, can we really just let things continue to slide without any sign of a change of approach?
[quote][p][bold]DesLytlle'sCoolerBox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southern Exile[/bold] wrote: Doesn't the manager sign, select and motivate the players?[/p][/quote]So all this is Mills' fault then one way or another and when we get another manager in we'll all see how much of a brilliant squad we've got and we'll really push on? If the players play s*** then that's the way it is[/p][/quote]No but the manager has to take ultimate responsibility, different manager's do achieve different results with the same players, otherwise what is the point in having a manager at all? Gary has signed these players, set the formation, selected the team and presumably motivated them, who else has more impact on the results? Yes we achieved last year when we were a relatively large fish in a small pool, that is not the case now and we haven't adjusted, that adjustment can only come from the manager. I like the guy, appreciate what he has done, but he needs to re-appraise and adjust and not stick his head in the sand. The reason we have signed so many players is the lack of a plan B, he is signing players to try and fit the system, rather than getting the best out of what we have by picking the system for the players we have. We are up against much better teams and need to appreciate and cater for that. At the moment we aren't and show no signs that we are going to. Returning to L2 was so important to this club. We can not risk returning to the Conference. As fans we don't get to walk away when the going is bad, can we really just let things continue to slide without any sign of a change of approach? Southern Exile
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11:03am Wed 20 Feb 13

DesLytlle'sCoolerBox says...

I'm not saying I don't think it's time to go, I'm just saying that people shouldn't overlook the fact that its the players who are performing badly regardless of tactics, motivation or whatever. I worry that no matter who we bring in they've got little time to implement their play and they'll have to use the squad we've got now which is concerning as its difficult to pick a single player who's had a good season
I'm not saying I don't think it's time to go, I'm just saying that people shouldn't overlook the fact that its the players who are performing badly regardless of tactics, motivation or whatever. I worry that no matter who we bring in they've got little time to implement their play and they'll have to use the squad we've got now which is concerning as its difficult to pick a single player who's had a good season DesLytlle'sCoolerBox
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11:15am Wed 20 Feb 13

OLD - HEAD says...

It is absolutely crucial that we stay up. If the unthinkable happened and we went down. A new Manager with a severely reduced playing budget would be in office. Most of our current players would scatter like ships rats. Season ticket sales would reach an all time low, and attendances would plummit. Indeed the future of the football club could be at risk. So come on City lets hope that vital points can be won from our remaining games to ensure safety.
PS - I agree with "duffy" for the thought of Graham Westley, and his foul mouthed side-kick Dino, sends shivers down my spine.
It is absolutely crucial that we stay up. If the unthinkable happened and we went down. A new Manager with a severely reduced playing budget would be in office. Most of our current players would scatter like ships rats. Season ticket sales would reach an all time low, and attendances would plummit. Indeed the future of the football club could be at risk. So come on City lets hope that vital points can be won from our remaining games to ensure safety. PS - I agree with "duffy" for the thought of Graham Westley, and his foul mouthed side-kick Dino, sends shivers down my spine. OLD - HEAD
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1:30pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Mad for Minstermen says...

YCFC am byth wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
Mills should just say up yours you impatient and ungrateful lot. there has been More success recently than for ages, attractive football is played more often than not. And now we hit a harder league and a little low point as much down to the players ineptitude all the headless chickens start having panic attacks. Get behind them for goodness sake theend of the season is the time to decide whether or not to stick with mills.no one else, even if the clubcould afford it will make a blindest difference to the situation. Leave manager sacking to the idiot chairman of Chelsea ,.....look where it's got them
Agreed nearlyman. a good summary indeed
Complete rhubarb, if we get relegated its too late then to sack the manager, look at Brass. Re Chelsea, great example, they are in the premier league vying for trophies every year and winning some we can't even dream of. Go back to the land of nod cos you were obviously dreaming!
[quote][p][bold]YCFC am byth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: Mills should just say up yours you impatient and ungrateful lot. there has been More success recently than for ages, attractive football is played more often than not. And now we hit a harder league and a little low point as much down to the players ineptitude all the headless chickens start having panic attacks. Get behind them for goodness sake theend of the season is the time to decide whether or not to stick with mills.no one else, even if the clubcould afford it will make a blindest difference to the situation. Leave manager sacking to the idiot chairman of Chelsea ,.....look where it's got them[/p][/quote]Agreed nearlyman. a good summary indeed[/p][/quote]Complete rhubarb, if we get relegated its too late then to sack the manager, look at Brass. Re Chelsea, great example, they are in the premier league vying for trophies every year and winning some we can't even dream of. Go back to the land of nod cos you were obviously dreaming! Mad for Minstermen
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7:36pm Wed 20 Feb 13

nearlyman says...

Mad for Minstermen wrote:
YCFC am byth wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
Mills should just say up yours you impatient and ungrateful lot. there has been More success recently than for ages, attractive football is played more often than not. And now we hit a harder league and a little low point as much down to the players ineptitude all the headless chickens start having panic attacks. Get behind them for goodness sake theend of the season is the time to decide whether or not to stick with mills.no one else, even if the clubcould afford it will make a blindest difference to the situation. Leave manager sacking to the idiot chairman of Chelsea ,.....look where it's got them
Agreed nearlyman. a good summary indeed
Complete rhubarb, if we get relegated its too late then to sack the manager, look at Brass. Re Chelsea, great example, they are in the premier league vying for trophies every year and winning some we can't even dream of. Go back to the land of nod cos you were obviously dreaming!
Think you are living in football utopia ! Chelsea may be vying for a few trophies and indeed occasionally winning one, but I think they are working on a slightly larger budget than we are at present ! The chairman there thinks he understands football completely (just like a lot of the posters here) and he wants to have too great an influence on playing matters there, happily that has not yet happened at York. The problem here is unrealistic expectation from the fans. Of course we all want success, thats what being a fan is all about. What we do not want is such a poisonous attitude from the fans towards the players and management, borne out of frustration at the dip in results.If that is maintained then things will definitely not improve. No one in any sphere performs well if they are perpetually abused. Mills ideas on tactics served us very well last season so why should he not wish to pursue them now, even Davids after saturday was extremely complimentary about the teams style. Sack the manager and there will be a greater risk of relegation, it invariably happens, keep him and there is a chance of the players getting it right and coming good again. I am sure they will be searching their own consciences as to upping their effort. They know they will not further their own careers by being on the losing side too often.
[quote][p][bold]Mad for Minstermen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YCFC am byth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: Mills should just say up yours you impatient and ungrateful lot. there has been More success recently than for ages, attractive football is played more often than not. And now we hit a harder league and a little low point as much down to the players ineptitude all the headless chickens start having panic attacks. Get behind them for goodness sake theend of the season is the time to decide whether or not to stick with mills.no one else, even if the clubcould afford it will make a blindest difference to the situation. Leave manager sacking to the idiot chairman of Chelsea ,.....look where it's got them[/p][/quote]Agreed nearlyman. a good summary indeed[/p][/quote]Complete rhubarb, if we get relegated its too late then to sack the manager, look at Brass. Re Chelsea, great example, they are in the premier league vying for trophies every year and winning some we can't even dream of. Go back to the land of nod cos you were obviously dreaming![/p][/quote]Think you are living in football utopia ! Chelsea may be vying for a few trophies and indeed occasionally winning one, but I think they are working on a slightly larger budget than we are at present ! The chairman there thinks he understands football completely (just like a lot of the posters here) and he wants to have too great an influence on playing matters there, happily that has not yet happened at York. The problem here is unrealistic expectation from the fans. Of course we all want success, thats what being a fan is all about. What we do not want is such a poisonous attitude from the fans towards the players and management, borne out of frustration at the dip in results.If that is maintained then things will definitely not improve. No one in any sphere performs well if they are perpetually abused. Mills ideas on tactics served us very well last season so why should he not wish to pursue them now, even Davids after saturday was extremely complimentary about the teams style. Sack the manager and there will be a greater risk of relegation, it invariably happens, keep him and there is a chance of the players getting it right and coming good again. I am sure they will be searching their own consciences as to upping their effort. They know they will not further their own careers by being on the losing side too often. nearlyman
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4:21pm Thu 21 Feb 13

SamYCFC says...

I dont want to see GM go. I will forever be grateful for what he did last season.

But for god sake drop C Smith!
I dont want to see GM go. I will forever be grateful for what he did last season. But for god sake drop C Smith! SamYCFC
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