Mills urges Minstermen to stick together and sort out ‘mess’ (From York Press)

Mental preparation has to be right from now on in, stop the in fighting and blame culture and pull together, let's see some leaders both off and on the pitch...

At least he has acknowleged there is a problem, we have enough time to sort it out and maybe its the end of the promotion honeymoon... there are worse teams than us in the league.

But it is hard to feel comfortable given the style in which we got relegated last time... it all feels a little too familiar.

When will the Mills lovers stop going on about last season? When he gets the team relegated? Mills did a fantastic job last season and we are so grateful to him for that. However league football is way beyond his capabilities as he has proved before with his other attempts at league management. The stubbornness of some supporters "living in the past" is ridiculous as is the Managers inability to take on board his inept and somewhat ludicrous decisions at times. Luckily we have family down in Chalfont St Giles so our weekend trip was not totally wasted. However what I, along with other realistic fans witnessed on Saturday is a York team that will not be good enough to stay in this division with this current Manager - FACT.

However what I, along with other realistic fans witnessed on Saturday is a York team that will not be good enough to stay in this division with this current Manager - FACT.”

Think you'll find that's opinion, not fact KNOBHEAD! Look it up in the dictionary. We will stay up, consolidate and move forward into next season with some good lessons learnt. So stop villifying a man who saved us from a ninth season in the s**t hole that us the conference!

"However what I, along with other realistic fans witnessed on Saturday is a York team that will not be good enough to stay in this division with this current Manager - FACT."

Judging by Colin's track record of his 'Facts' actually coming true, I would take this as a positive omen !

At least GM has acknowledged there's a problem and has put his 'hands up' to mistakes in the latest team selections!

Let's have a positive response from the players tomorrow nite and show some 'fight' for the cause and be proud to be a York City Player! Even a much improved performance would be a step in the 'right direction! A win a bonus!

Because let's face it! Things can't get much worse rite now!

COYR

At least GM has acknowledged there's a problem and has put his 'hands up' to mistakes in the latest team selections!

Let's have a positive response from the players tomorrow nite and show some 'fight' for the cause and be proud to be a York City Player! Even a much improved performance would be a step in the 'right direction! A win a bonus!

Because let's face it! Things can't get much worse rite now!

COYR

At least GM has acknowledged there's a problem and has put his 'hands up' to mistakes in the latest team selections!

Let's have a positive response from the players tomorrow nite and show some 'fight' for the cause and be proud to be a York City Player! Even a much improved performance would be a step in the 'right direction! A win a bonus!

Because let's face it! Things can't get much worse rite now!

COYR

mark sertori wrote:
However what I, along with other realistic fans witnessed on Saturday is a York team that will not be good enough to stay in this division with this current Manager - FACT.” Think you'll find that's opinion, not fact KNOBHEAD! Look it up in the dictionary. We will stay up, consolidate and move forward into next season with some good lessons learnt. So stop villifying a man who saved us from a ninth season in the s**t hole that us the conference!

YEs, they are our opinions but there's no need to be abusive and, for once, I actually agree with Colin Pratt - my weekend was saved from being a total disaster by spending it with friends who live in Beaconsfield. I don't mind City being beaten, so much, but the very poor 'performance' was too much to take. I wonder if the team mutinied in response to GM's humiliation of them. I have seen some very poor City teams since I first watched them in the late 60s but I have never before seen a City team that was so obviously going through the motions. My Wycombe-supporting friends commented that the team wasn't trying. We all know City can play great stuff, we all know City have a never say die attitude but both were absent on Saturday. I like GM (a couple of people on here attempt to insult me by calling me a "Gary clapper", but I take this as a compliment!) and think he will turn things around but a repeat of Saturday's performance would be unacceptable. As long as City play well I don't mind the result, but they really do have to put the graft in. COYR

Got a bit excited with the 'trigger' button! Shame the strikers aren't at the mo!

We've got a young squad that can only get better, 2 wins and we will be back up there again! Everyones going over the top again, and have short memories after last season. Injuries have played a big part as well, Millsy will get us playing agin! COME ON CITY!

ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:
Got a bit excited with the 'trigger' button! Shame the strikers aren't at the mo!

Poor Mrs Cuthbert...

Southern Exile wrote:

ADAMCUTHBERT wrote: Got a bit excited with the 'trigger' button! Shame the strikers aren't at the mo!

Poor Mrs Cuthbert...

LOL It's your Mrs you should be worried about!

I also went to the game, and I too was spared a dreadful weekend by staying with some lovely friends of mine at Chesham. I was a bad day and Im glad I left after 59 mins, meant I avoided the traffic and made it to friends home much earler. Im sure we will turn it round in the next few games, you dont become a bad team over a few weeks.

ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:

Southern Exile wrote:

ADAMCUTHBERT wrote: Got a bit excited with the 'trigger' button! Shame the strikers aren't at the mo!

Poor Mrs Cuthbert...

LOL It's your Mrs you should be worried about!

How rude

No Gladys you become Crap one instead!

ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:

Southern Exile wrote:

ADAMCUTHBERT wrote: Got a bit excited with the 'trigger' button! Shame the strikers aren't at the mo!

Poor Mrs Cuthbert...

LOL It's your Mrs you should be worried about!

You're quite right...

The Wycombe commentators were bemused as to why we don't play 4-4-2 as they thought Walker & Blair would be more effective playing closer to each other.
I didn't think we'd be at risk of going straight back down and i still think (hope?) we will be safe, but the wins have got to start coming, draws won't be good enough...

I said at the start of the season that I was more worried about losing Gary Mills than any of our players and still think this is the case! We would be hard pressed to find someone new like him and still believe the players still want to play for him. We're 2 wins away from all the views here changing

An interesting statistic....

Since there has been to Promoted from the conference to the Football League, no team has came straight back down.

Lets not break the trend.

Pratt by name .
Pratt by nature.
I travelled further this season than Bucks and saw some right dross.
I didnt come back looking to sack people. If players dont wish to apply themselves correctly , it doesnt matter who's telling them what to do.
If people made as much fuss over sacking bankers for their failures, as they do after a dip in form. The world would be a better place.

Richie H wrote:
I said at the start of the season that I was more worried about losing Gary Mills than any of our players and still think this is the case! We would be hard pressed to find someone new like him and still believe the players still want to play for him. We're 2 wins away from all the views here changing

With respect - the views of those who attended on Saturday are unanimous - the team didn't look interested and didn't put the effort in. But I do agree that when we start picking up points again, postings on this site will quieten down. When we do well, the posts from many people who seem to revel in defeat are notable by their absence!

Tug job wrote:

Richie H wrote: I said at the start of the season that I was more worried about losing Gary Mills than any of our players and still think this is the case! We would be hard pressed to find someone new like him and still believe the players still want to play for him. We're 2 wins away from all the views here changing

With respect - the views of those who attended on Saturday are unanimous - the team didn't look interested and didn't put the effort in. But I do agree that when we start picking up points again, postings on this site will quieten down. When we do well, the posts from many people who seem to revel in defeat are notable by their absence!

I was there Saturday and will comment as I see fit' through the good times and bad! That's what been a supporter is all about!

I didn't think this forum was just for the happy clappers..is it not for anyone then i don't come on when we win because i have nothing to say.but when we are doing badly as of late i like anyone else want my anger and disbelief to be voiced and if you don't like it tough..i don't care go clap in the corner and STFU..

I merely stated that his statement was not a fact and that all he was trying to do was antagonise people. We are all entitled to an opinion, but nevertheless it is just that, an opinion! No, actually being a supporter is supporting the team. Er being the suffix of support, which last time i checked meant to give encouragment and help when in times of need! I rest my case! Time for your undignified response!

ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:

Tug job wrote:

Richie H wrote: I said at the start of the season that I was more worried about losing Gary Mills than any of our players and still think this is the case! We would be hard pressed to find someone new like him and still believe the players still want to play for him. We're 2 wins away from all the views here changing

With respect - the views of those who attended on Saturday are unanimous - the team didn't look interested and didn't put the effort in. But I do agree that when we start picking up points again, postings on this site will quieten down. When we do well, the posts from many people who seem to revel in defeat are notable by their absence!

I was there Saturday and will comment as I see fit' through the good times and bad! That's what been a supporter is all about!

Is anybody saying you shouldn't post as you see fit? I certainly wasn't, I was merely commenting that many people only post on this site when we have a bad result.

Interesting debate considering the title of the article ;-)

redbluelion wrote:
I didn't think this forum was just for the happy clappers..is it not for anyone then i don't come on when we win because i have nothing to say.but when we are doing badly as of late i like anyone else want my anger and disbelief to be voiced and if you don't like it tough..i don't care go clap in the corner and STFU..

How can you STFU if you're clapping in a corner?

Also why are you standing up for your right to an opinion and then being aggressive to those who have just as much right to disagree with it?

Were you even at the game on Saturday or would the care home not let you out unsupervised?

At the end of the day we're all supporters of this great club and we only want to see them do well!

We like the players are only human! We have our own views on things' and yes we all care!

ADAMCUTHBERT wrote:
At the end of the day we're all supporters of this great club and we only want to see them do well!

We like the players are only human! We have our own views on things' and yes we all care!

I think your right Adam. However I do think those like Colin Pratt are just plain old trouble makers. It seems Colin is insistent on stirring and despite his intentions I think he might be an rotten egg.

Intresting to see gillingham stayed up north since the bradford game and training at thorp arch. Maybe they think they on holiday and catch them off guard.

Colin Pratt wrote:
When will the Mills lovers stop going on about last season? When he gets the team relegated? Mills did a fantastic job last season and we are so grateful to him for that. However league football is way beyond his capabilities as he has proved before with his other attempts at league management. The stubbornness of some supporters "living in the past" is ridiculous as is the Managers inability to take on board his inept and somewhat ludicrous decisions at times. Luckily we have family down in Chalfont St Giles so our weekend trip was not totally wasted. However what I, along with other realistic fans witnessed on Saturday is a York team that will not be good enough to stay in this division with this current Manager - FACT.

Why don't you stop moaning & get behind the team, you were one of the first to eat your humble pie when we got promoted, now its time you show your worth & see if you really are a fan, what the lads need is the crowd to lift them not negativity like you colin arnold pratt or the or 20 fans singing in the longhurst, surprise them, give them a positive lift, make some noise & show them that we are behind them which you seem to be all the time! Rant over!

the mess what mills is talking about,is the loan players he has brought in they are no better than what we have got.in fact they are worse.you need players that are going to bust a gut for this club.when fit we are missing mcurk,if not give allan a chance.get challinor in at right back.if we could only find a goal scorer it would take a bit of pressure off the back four.i see barnet have signed beattie from st johnstone.there is a lot of teams in this league with a worse spending budget than us,but every team we have played have had a good hitman.surely there must be a striker from a championship side who is idling away in the reserves,who we can get on loan.me and my son will be there,as always,shouting them on against gillingham.

The_Baron89 wrote:

redbluelion wrote:
I didn't think this forum was just for the happy clappers..is it not for anyone then i don't come on when we win because i have nothing to say.but when we are doing badly as of late i like anyone else want my anger and disbelief to be voiced and if you don't like it tough..i don't care go clap in the corner and STFU..

How can you STFU if you're clapping in a corner?

Also why are you standing up for your right to an opinion and then being aggressive to those who have just as much right to disagree with it?

Were you even at the game on Saturday or would the care home not let you out unsupervised?

All good points. Expect a disproportionately aggressive response.

I hope that despite the last 2 games we are all commited York supporters, my overall concern is that we got quite lucky in getting back to leage football but did little other than show loyalty to our promotion squad.
I feel that some of GMs ever present players in the squad have sat on their laurels not looking over their shoulders maybe it is time to rest JW use him as a sub for a couple of games to see if his energy levels can be restored & Chris Smith can have a lovely rest too never got his place on merit as a football player for me. If we are a bit goal shy then at least keep a clean sheet & hopefully we will catch other teams on the break as we certainly have players with pace if not ariel ability. Most of us will clap the team off as long as we see a committed group of players earning their rewards for our club. Jamal needs a bit of advice on not encouraging theatrics from forwards & if he cannot absorb it join the bench.
For you Mr Mills cut out the theatrics of having the naughty boys walk to class treat them like men & get a man like performance out of them with a formation to utilise the players that we have & can put the shift in.
Cmon City!!!

joejamestom wrote:
I hope that despite the last 2 games we are all commited York supporters, my overall concern is that we got quite lucky in getting back to leage football but did little other than show loyalty to our promotion squad. I feel that some of GMs ever present players in the squad have sat on their laurels not looking over their shoulders maybe it is time to rest JW use him as a sub for a couple of games to see if his energy levels can be restored & Chris Smith can have a lovely rest too never got his place on merit as a football player for me. If we are a bit goal shy then at least keep a clean sheet & hopefully we will catch other teams on the break as we certainly have players with pace if not ariel ability. Most of us will clap the team off as long as we see a committed group of players earning their rewards for our club. Jamal needs a bit of advice on not encouraging theatrics from forwards & if he cannot absorb it join the bench. For you Mr Mills cut out the theatrics of having the naughty boys walk to class treat them like men & get a man like performance out of them with a formation to utilise the players that we have & can put the shift in. Cmon City!!!

Well said.

openallhours wrote:

joejamestom wrote:
I hope that despite the last 2 games we are all commited York supporters, my overall concern is that we got quite lucky in getting back to leage football but did little other than show loyalty to our promotion squad. I feel that some of GMs ever present players in the squad have sat on their laurels not looking over their shoulders maybe it is time to rest JW use him as a sub for a couple of games to see if his energy levels can be restored & Chris Smith can have a lovely rest too never got his place on merit as a football player for me. If we are a bit goal shy then at least keep a clean sheet & hopefully we will catch other teams on the break as we certainly have players with pace if not ariel ability. Most of us will clap the team off as long as we see a committed group of players earning their rewards for our club. Jamal needs a bit of advice on not encouraging theatrics from forwards & if he cannot absorb it join the bench. For you Mr Mills cut out the theatrics of having the naughty boys walk to class treat them like men & get a man like performance out of them with a formation to utilise the players that we have & can put the shift in. Cmon City!!!

Well said.

Hmmmm mind readers! My sentiments exactly, shame we lost Reed though to bang in the goals thanks to Mills love for Walker and 433. At the end of the day Reed may not be the most gifted technically but then again is it any wonder with the lack of game time he gets and he still scores as many as Walker from open play in about a tenth of the games if not less. Simple case we needed goals and as I quote Mills "The reason I left Reedy on for 90 minutes is because he is always capable of a goal" That was after another of his late important goals. More like you didnt know what to do and Reed bailed you out again. Otherwise you would have played him more regular to make that comment a true reflection.

my biggest concern from comments of saturdays apparant lack of interest from the players is talk of possible rifts or mills losing the respect of some of the players.if that is the mess Mills is refering to its the biggest danger we are facing.The other thing i think we need to snap out of is the oh we wont or can,t go down thinking,ok yes we are some way thankfully off situation we found ourselves in when we last went down to the conference,but i think the truth is memories of that incredible slide and 8 barren years in the conference is whats making people so nervous of our at best stuttering form.we are maybe a long way from being the team we.d like to be right now,but i think(without first hand knowledge this season i must add) if the players are willing to fight weve still got enough quality to keep us up,what scares me more than anything is talk of possible unrest in the dressing room,its desperately important right now that everyone is together.