Minstermen battle Millers to seal Kearns loan deal (From York Press)

Can't afford him, where has all the promotion and cup win money gone, so much for promising to invest the money into the squad, we need to be pushing for promotion (playoffs) and nit finishing at the wrong end of the table due to not having a team with strengh and depth. Please make funds available

Kearns would definitely be a good addition but striker and central defender must be the main priorities despite Dave McGurk coming back well. There is no competition for places as Striker or goalkeeper at present(Reedy not in the picture) but there must be competition to keep players hungry for success. There is no doubt we have missed Clarke Carlisle but an injury to McGurk now would be a disaster-he is the best centre back option we have and has been for years.I know money is a problem though and the bigger the gates the more GM is likely to get so get down to home games at Bootham Crescent and support your team.

KAI 1981 wrote:
Can't afford him, where has all the promotion and cup win money gone, so much for promising to invest the money into the squad, we need to be pushing for promotion (playoffs) and nit finishing at the wrong end of the table due to not having a team with strengh and depth. Please make funds available

The club needs to make a statement on this asap, as it's causing a lot of disquiet on the York forums, such as R&B. It seems Sophie's comment on top of the open top bus about investing in the team is going astray to the point it was not truthful.

That happy release about putting 50,000 in to cover the Gillingham postponement backfired as we know that's about cashflow, but it makes us seem like we're struggling.

Sure, the large amount of money made out of last season may not have arrived in a cheque the following week, but it's looking more and more like the McGills simply pocketed 100s of thousands to make up for their input over previous seasons.

Honesty on that would be fine, I'd support it, but only if it was not to the detriment where we can't even afford to loan a player we know we need, because of a few thousand in difference between a wage percentage with a club like Rotherham.

As said, others are less thoughtful on this and there's a lot, and I mean a lot, of disquiet right now.

So, please Jason or Sophie, clarify the situation and do it soon.

The money from the Wembley trips / promotion came in this tax year therefore I would assume will be in the budget for the next tax year, so wouldn't expect any financial benefit till next season? Sure there is a league rule relating to this. Anyone with more financial knowledge able to elaborate??

He's a decent player but not exceptional and certainly he didn't show enough to suggest he's worth pushing the boat out. He works hard to receive the ball but his decision making after that meant that he didn't use his possession particularly well. I wouldn't be against his return but not at any price.
Unlike Rodman who has rarely shown the commitment you'd expect from someone trying to get a contract.
Of the two Kearns would be a higher priority but I doubt that he would be a permanent signing and McCready offers much better long term value.
Rodman? - I'd let him go unless he takes one last chance tomorrow.

Maybe, one last opportunity to-morrow for Alex Rodman to clinch a deal with GM? Or, give Reedy another chance(wide right), to play himself back into the manager's plans! Either one of them, (for different reasons) would be well up for it to-morrow!! COYR.

heartbreaker wrote:
The money from the Wembley trips / promotion came in this tax year therefore I would assume will be in the budget for the next tax year, so wouldn't expect any financial benefit till next season? Sure there is a league rule relating to this. Anyone with more financial knowledge able to elaborate??

We have to work under salary cap conditions, of which we are almost at our limit.
Offloading Smith will free up a bit of allowance, as will releasing Carlisle earlier in the year, but there are more pressing needs out there than another small nippy winger.
Perhaps, and this is speculation only, the club are only prepared to pay a proportion of his wages, as if we pay more it would reduce our playing budget in more pressing areas of the pitch.

On the BBC match preview (all of 2 paragraphs), the following is written:

'York City could welcome back defender Chris Doig after he missed Saturday's trip to Fleetwood through injury, with David McGurk likely to drop out.'

Why on earth would McGurk drop out?!

YorkCityLuke wrote:
On the BBC match preview (all of 2 paragraphs), the following is written: 'York City could welcome back defender Chris Doig after he missed Saturday's trip to Fleetwood through injury, with David McGurk likely to drop out.' Why on earth would McGurk drop out?!

Never going to happen in my view.

YorkCityLuke wrote:
On the BBC match preview (all of 2 paragraphs), the following is written:

'York City could welcome back defender Chris Doig after he missed Saturday's trip to Fleetwood through injury, with David McGurk likely to drop out.'

Why on earth would McGurk drop out?!

Crazy if that happened. Can't see us getting kearnsey if rotherham are in for him, especially when there first choice wingers off to fleetwood! Would love to see him back at city though!

Some surpporters want to push the boat out.as i understand it happened in the not too distant past.and the club sank through the plughole.your in div 2
some players are still part time .i see this club is run as a business .dont spend more than comes in .if that means they miss out on a player so be it
nobody has a bottomless pocket,and means the owners.

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Some surpporters want to push the boat out.as i understand it happened in the not too distant past.and the club sank through the plughole.your in div 2
some players are still part time .i see this club is run as a business .dont spend more than comes in .if that means they miss out on a player so be it
nobody has a bottomless pocket,and means the owners.

Not so much to do with pushing the boat out - its is to do with L2 wage cap rules as stated above. Wembley money not in this years calculations - simple as that.

Decent Centre Back and another decent Striker is all that is required in the transfer window. Bosh Job done!!

I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

YorkCityLuke wrote:
I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

KAI 1981 wrote:
Can't afford him, where has all the promotion and cup win money gone, so much for promising to invest the money into the squad, we need to be pushing for promotion (playoffs) and nit finishing at the wrong end of the table due to not having a team with strengh and depth. Please make funds available

Thought it was just me who was sceptical !

spockboy2 wrote:

KAI 1981 wrote: Can't afford him, where has all the promotion and cup win money gone, so much for promising to invest the money into the squad, we need to be pushing for promotion (playoffs) and nit finishing at the wrong end of the table due to not having a team with strengh and depth. Please make funds available

Thought it was just me who was sceptical !

Surely that will come into next years budget ?

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YorkCityLuke wrote:
I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

I wonder who Kearns would like to work for ? Steve "Pies" Evans or Gary Mills ! Kearns is a far better player than Rodman in my view and always wants the ball. A constant danger on the left flank.

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duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote:
I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

I think Smith can play a brilliant game of football (and he did at the start of the season) but in the past couple of months he's made too many mistakes. Wouldn't be the worst thing for club or player if he was dropped for a while, and returned with more confidence, or sharpness, or whatever has been missing lately. That said, it sounds like he played well against Fleetwood so maybe he just needs a more solid partner to work off.

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duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ?
Home games for me by the way.

duffy wrote:

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duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ?
Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

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duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ? Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

I don't have a witch hunt against anyone, I would have Chambers as player of the season at this point. But to say Smith has been excellent this season is frankly rubbish in my opinion, I would actually agree with Luke that he started the season quite well but has made mistake after mistake in the last couple of months but may improve with another centre half alongside him. You are rather patronising at times with your comments that posters have no understanding of football if they dare to make a less than positive comment. I think after watching city players for the last 36 years i can see when someone is playing well or struggling.

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

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cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ? Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

I don't have a witch hunt against anyone, I would have Chambers as player of the season at this point. But to say Smith has been excellent this season is frankly rubbish in my opinion, I would actually agree with Luke that he started the season quite well but has made mistake after mistake in the last couple of months but may improve with another centre half alongside him. You are rather patronising at times with your comments that posters have no understanding of football if they dare to make a less than positive comment. I think after watching city players for the last 36 years i can see when someone is playing well or struggling.

You are right and everyone else is wrong is that it? It's hard not to be patronising to someone who tries to speak with authority and knowledge about a player who he sees play at most twice a month. Perhaps have a more balanced opinion and listen to what better informed contributors tell you? You seem to be a very poor listener, less beligerence would do you good.

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ? Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

I don't have a witch hunt against anyone, I would have Chambers as player of the season at this point. But to say Smith has been excellent this season is frankly rubbish in my opinion, I would actually agree with Luke that he started the season quite well but has made mistake after mistake in the last couple of months but may improve with another centre half alongside him. You are rather patronising at times with your comments that posters have no understanding of football if they dare to make a less than positive comment. I think after watching city players for the last 36 years i can see when someone is playing well or struggling.

You are right and everyone else is wrong is that it? It's hard not to be patronising to someone who tries to speak with authority and knowledge about a player who he sees play at most twice a month. Perhaps have a more balanced opinion and listen to what better informed contributors tell you? You seem to be a very poor listener, less beligerence would do you good.

I have an opinion which is my right, what make someone else a better informed contributor ? And speaking with authority and knowledge ? I'm commenting on watching a player play football for gods sake, get off your high horse because your'e now just coming across as unbelievably arrogant. Not for the first time I have to say.

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ? Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

I don't have a witch hunt against anyone, I would have Chambers as player of the season at this point. But to say Smith has been excellent this season is frankly rubbish in my opinion, I would actually agree with Luke that he started the season quite well but has made mistake after mistake in the last couple of months but may improve with another centre half alongside him. You are rather patronising at times with your comments that posters have no understanding of football if they dare to make a less than positive comment. I think after watching city players for the last 36 years i can see when someone is playing well or struggling.

You are right and everyone else is wrong is that it? It's hard not to be patronising to someone who tries to speak with authority and knowledge about a player who he sees play at most twice a month. Perhaps have a more balanced opinion and listen to what better informed contributors tell you? You seem to be a very poor listener, less beligerence would do you good.

I have an opinion which is my right, what make someone else a better informed contributor ? And speaking with authority and knowledge ? I'm commenting on watching a player play football for gods sake, get off your high horse because your'e now just coming across as unbelievably arrogant. Not for the first time I have to say.

Still not listening I see. Oh well. The phrase "I have a right to my opinion" was bound to be trotted out eventually, the final fallback of the blinkered ignoramus who doesn't like being challenged with the facts. Looks like it's not just Chris Smith who is having a "dodgy season"!

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ? Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

I don't have a witch hunt against anyone, I would have Chambers as player of the season at this point. But to say Smith has been excellent this season is frankly rubbish in my opinion, I would actually agree with Luke that he started the season quite well but has made mistake after mistake in the last couple of months but may improve with another centre half alongside him. You are rather patronising at times with your comments that posters have no understanding of football if they dare to make a less than positive comment. I think after watching city players for the last 36 years i can see when someone is playing well or struggling.

You are right and everyone else is wrong is that it? It's hard not to be patronising to someone who tries to speak with authority and knowledge about a player who he sees play at most twice a month. Perhaps have a more balanced opinion and listen to what better informed contributors tell you? You seem to be a very poor listener, less beligerence would do you good.

I have an opinion which is my right, what make someone else a better informed contributor ? And speaking with authority and knowledge ? I'm commenting on watching a player play football for gods sake, get off your high horse because your'e now just coming across as unbelievably arrogant. Not for the first time I have to say.

Still not listening I see. Oh well. The phrase "I have a right to my opinion" was bound to be trotted out eventually, the final fallback of the blinkered ignoramus who doesn't like being challenged with the facts. Looks like it's not just Chris Smith who is having a "dodgy season"!

Bloody hell just how big is that arrogant chip on your shoulder. What facts are you challenging me with" Smith has had an excellent season" ? You lost all credibility before you even started. Seriously my friend take a long hard look at yourself because you have some real issues with anyone with different views to yourself and life's too short, chill out a bit more.

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ? Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

I don't have a witch hunt against anyone, I would have Chambers as player of the season at this point. But to say Smith has been excellent this season is frankly rubbish in my opinion, I would actually agree with Luke that he started the season quite well but has made mistake after mistake in the last couple of months but may improve with another centre half alongside him. You are rather patronising at times with your comments that posters have no understanding of football if they dare to make a less than positive comment. I think after watching city players for the last 36 years i can see when someone is playing well or struggling.

You are right and everyone else is wrong is that it? It's hard not to be patronising to someone who tries to speak with authority and knowledge about a player who he sees play at most twice a month. Perhaps have a more balanced opinion and listen to what better informed contributors tell you? You seem to be a very poor listener, less beligerence would do you good.

I have an opinion which is my right, what make someone else a better informed contributor ? And speaking with authority and knowledge ? I'm commenting on watching a player play football for gods sake, get off your high horse because your'e now just coming across as unbelievably arrogant. Not for the first time I have to say.

Still not listening I see. Oh well. The phrase "I have a right to my opinion" was bound to be trotted out eventually, the final fallback of the blinkered ignoramus who doesn't like being challenged with the facts. Looks like it's not just Chris Smith who is having a "dodgy season"!

Bloody hell just how big is that arrogant chip on your shoulder. What facts are you challenging me with" Smith has had an excellent season" ? You lost all credibility before you even started. Seriously my friend take a long hard look at yourself because you have some real issues with anyone with different views to yourself and life's too short, chill out a bit more.

Says the guy who lives on a newspaper forum. I pointed out to you, but again you are too arrogant to bother to listen properly, that Chris Smith is leading the Press Player of the Season standings - this is a FACT. You think you know better - you don't. I think you need to spend less time posting nonsense on here and more time watching the team so that you can post with a bit more credibility rather than getting caught out and embarrassed as you have this evening. Good luck with that in the New Year!

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

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cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ? Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

I don't have a witch hunt against anyone, I would have Chambers as player of the season at this point. But to say Smith has been excellent this season is frankly rubbish in my opinion, I would actually agree with Luke that he started the season quite well but has made mistake after mistake in the last couple of months but may improve with another centre half alongside him. You are rather patronising at times with your comments that posters have no understanding of football if they dare to make a less than positive comment. I think after watching city players for the last 36 years i can see when someone is playing well or struggling.

You are right and everyone else is wrong is that it? It's hard not to be patronising to someone who tries to speak with authority and knowledge about a player who he sees play at most twice a month. Perhaps have a more balanced opinion and listen to what better informed contributors tell you? You seem to be a very poor listener, less beligerence would do you good.

I have an opinion which is my right, what make someone else a better informed contributor ? And speaking with authority and knowledge ? I'm commenting on watching a player play football for gods sake, get off your high horse because your'e now just coming across as unbelievably arrogant. Not for the first time I have to say.

Still not listening I see. Oh well. The phrase "I have a right to my opinion" was bound to be trotted out eventually, the final fallback of the blinkered ignoramus who doesn't like being challenged with the facts. Looks like it's not just Chris Smith who is having a "dodgy season"!

Bloody hell just how big is that arrogant chip on your shoulder. What facts are you challenging me with" Smith has had an excellent season" ? You lost all credibility before you even started. Seriously my friend take a long hard look at yourself because you have some real issues with anyone with different views to yourself and life's too short, chill out a bit more.

Says the guy who lives on a newspaper forum. I pointed out to you, but again you are too arrogant to bother to listen properly, that Chris Smith is leading the Press Player of the Season standings - this is a FACT. You think you know better - you don't. I think you need to spend less time posting nonsense on here and more time watching the team so that you can post with a bit more credibility rather than getting caught out and embarrassed as you have this evening. Good luck with that in the New Year!

See there is that massive chip coming out again, obviously the press rating are gospel to you because you certainly aren't watching games yourself. Anyway as I say chill out and have a happy new year, as I say life's to short.

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ? Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

I don't have a witch hunt against anyone, I would have Chambers as player of the season at this point. But to say Smith has been excellent this season is frankly rubbish in my opinion, I would actually agree with Luke that he started the season quite well but has made mistake after mistake in the last couple of months but may improve with another centre half alongside him. You are rather patronising at times with your comments that posters have no understanding of football if they dare to make a less than positive comment. I think after watching city players for the last 36 years i can see when someone is playing well or struggling.

You are right and everyone else is wrong is that it? It's hard not to be patronising to someone who tries to speak with authority and knowledge about a player who he sees play at most twice a month. Perhaps have a more balanced opinion and listen to what better informed contributors tell you? You seem to be a very poor listener, less beligerence would do you good.

I have an opinion which is my right, what make someone else a better informed contributor ? And speaking with authority and knowledge ? I'm commenting on watching a player play football for gods sake, get off your high horse because your'e now just coming across as unbelievably arrogant. Not for the first time I have to say.

Still not listening I see. Oh well. The phrase "I have a right to my opinion" was bound to be trotted out eventually, the final fallback of the blinkered ignoramus who doesn't like being challenged with the facts. Looks like it's not just Chris Smith who is having a "dodgy season"!

Bloody hell just how big is that arrogant chip on your shoulder. What facts are you challenging me with" Smith has had an excellent season" ? You lost all credibility before you even started. Seriously my friend take a long hard look at yourself because you have some real issues with anyone with different views to yourself and life's too short, chill out a bit more.

Says the guy who lives on a newspaper forum. I pointed out to you, but again you are too arrogant to bother to listen properly, that Chris Smith is leading the Press Player of the Season standings - this is a FACT. You think you know better - you don't. I think you need to spend less time posting nonsense on here and more time watching the team so that you can post with a bit more credibility rather than getting caught out and embarrassed as you have this evening. Good luck with that in the New Year!

See there is that massive chip coming out again, obviously the press rating are gospel to you because you certainly aren't watching games yourself. Anyway as I say chill out and have a happy new year, as I say life's to short.

No, I don't watch games. Wake me up when we've got relegated and gone bust so you can say "I told you so" and give me a glass of the champers you are saving for the occasion. Meanwhile I will continue to support my team. Sorry, follow. I shouldn't use words like "support" that clearly confuse you.

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ? Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

I don't have a witch hunt against anyone, I would have Chambers as player of the season at this point. But to say Smith has been excellent this season is frankly rubbish in my opinion, I would actually agree with Luke that he started the season quite well but has made mistake after mistake in the last couple of months but may improve with another centre half alongside him. You are rather patronising at times with your comments that posters have no understanding of football if they dare to make a less than positive comment. I think after watching city players for the last 36 years i can see when someone is playing well or struggling.

You are right and everyone else is wrong is that it? It's hard not to be patronising to someone who tries to speak with authority and knowledge about a player who he sees play at most twice a month. Perhaps have a more balanced opinion and listen to what better informed contributors tell you? You seem to be a very poor listener, less beligerence would do you good.

I have an opinion which is my right, what make someone else a better informed contributor ? And speaking with authority and knowledge ? I'm commenting on watching a player play football for gods sake, get off your high horse because your'e now just coming across as unbelievably arrogant. Not for the first time I have to say.

Still not listening I see. Oh well. The phrase "I have a right to my opinion" was bound to be trotted out eventually, the final fallback of the blinkered ignoramus who doesn't like being challenged with the facts. Looks like it's not just Chris Smith who is having a "dodgy season"!

Bloody hell just how big is that arrogant chip on your shoulder. What facts are you challenging me with" Smith has had an excellent season" ? You lost all credibility before you even started. Seriously my friend take a long hard look at yourself because you have some real issues with anyone with different views to yourself and life's too short, chill out a bit more.

It's some time since I contributed to this forum. Now I just read the **** that goes on, the last time I wrote it was to complain about one of the City bashers that only seemed to contribute when City had not fared well. At the time Duffy commented that I " REALLY DIDNT LIKE OTHER PEOPLES OPINIONS" . Couldn't understand the comment when I'd never said anything the like before. I continue to go see City as often as I can and listen to some of the brain deads that profess to know about football and how they'd make things better ????????? COME ON YOU CITY

oldmanvecrayke wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ? Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

I don't have a witch hunt against anyone, I would have Chambers as player of the season at this point. But to say Smith has been excellent this season is frankly rubbish in my opinion, I would actually agree with Luke that he started the season quite well but has made mistake after mistake in the last couple of months but may improve with another centre half alongside him. You are rather patronising at times with your comments that posters have no understanding of football if they dare to make a less than positive comment. I think after watching city players for the last 36 years i can see when someone is playing well or struggling.

You are right and everyone else is wrong is that it? It's hard not to be patronising to someone who tries to speak with authority and knowledge about a player who he sees play at most twice a month. Perhaps have a more balanced opinion and listen to what better informed contributors tell you? You seem to be a very poor listener, less beligerence would do you good.

I have an opinion which is my right, what make someone else a better informed contributor ? And speaking with authority and knowledge ? I'm commenting on watching a player play football for gods sake, get off your high horse because your'e now just coming across as unbelievably arrogant. Not for the first time I have to say.

Still not listening I see. Oh well. The phrase "I have a right to my opinion" was bound to be trotted out eventually, the final fallback of the blinkered ignoramus who doesn't like being challenged with the facts. Looks like it's not just Chris Smith who is having a "dodgy season"!

Bloody hell just how big is that arrogant chip on your shoulder. What facts are you challenging me with" Smith has had an excellent season" ? You lost all credibility before you even started. Seriously my friend take a long hard look at yourself because you have some real issues with anyone with different views to yourself and life's too short, chill out a bit more.

It's some time since I contributed to this forum. Now I just read the **** that goes on, the last time I wrote it was to complain about one of the City bashers that only seemed to contribute when City had not fared well. At the time Duffy commented that I " REALLY DIDNT LIKE OTHER PEOPLES OPINIONS" . Couldn't understand the comment when I'd never said anything the like before. I continue to go see City as often as I can and listen to some of the brain deads that profess to know about football and how they'd make things better ????????? COME ON YOU CITY

On this point Duffy is quite right. City for the Premier is citing the YEP Player of the season standings as though it was some hugely authoritative poll of expert opinion; it's not, it's the marks given by the individual who writes the match report for each game - usually no more than three different people all season and in no sense experts.

Duffy mate don't rise to cityforthepremier baiting? You have every right as anyone on this site to your opinions.
cityforthepremier who the heck are you to think its your job to "catch out" people on this site? Stick to twitter if you want that sort of life, if you can call it that?
Happy New year all supporters of York city and the staff and team btw

brahma wrote:

oldmanvecrayke wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ? Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

I don't have a witch hunt against anyone, I would have Chambers as player of the season at this point. But to say Smith has been excellent this season is frankly rubbish in my opinion, I would actually agree with Luke that he started the season quite well but has made mistake after mistake in the last couple of months but may improve with another centre half alongside him. You are rather patronising at times with your comments that posters have no understanding of football if they dare to make a less than positive comment. I think after watching city players for the last 36 years i can see when someone is playing well or struggling.

You are right and everyone else is wrong is that it? It's hard not to be patronising to someone who tries to speak with authority and knowledge about a player who he sees play at most twice a month. Perhaps have a more balanced opinion and listen to what better informed contributors tell you? You seem to be a very poor listener, less beligerence would do you good.

I have an opinion which is my right, what make someone else a better informed contributor ? And speaking with authority and knowledge ? I'm commenting on watching a player play football for gods sake, get off your high horse because your'e now just coming across as unbelievably arrogant. Not for the first time I have to say.

Still not listening I see. Oh well. The phrase "I have a right to my opinion" was bound to be trotted out eventually, the final fallback of the blinkered ignoramus who doesn't like being challenged with the facts. Looks like it's not just Chris Smith who is having a "dodgy season"!

Bloody hell just how big is that arrogant chip on your shoulder. What facts are you challenging me with" Smith has had an excellent season" ? You lost all credibility before you even started. Seriously my friend take a long hard look at yourself because you have some real issues with anyone with different views to yourself and life's too short, chill out a bit more.

It's some time since I contributed to this forum. Now I just read the **** that goes on, the last time I wrote it was to complain about one of the City bashers that only seemed to contribute when City had not fared well. At the time Duffy commented that I " REALLY DIDNT LIKE OTHER PEOPLES OPINIONS" . Couldn't understand the comment when I'd never said anything the like before. I continue to go see City as often as I can and listen to some of the brain deads that profess to know about football and how they'd make things better ????????? COME ON YOU CITY

On this point Duffy is quite right. City for the Premier is citing the YEP Player of the season standings as though it was some hugely authoritative poll of expert opinion; it's not, it's the marks given by the individual who writes the match report for each game - usually no more than three different people all season and in no sense experts.

So why are you here reading their work if you think they are "in no sense experts"? I would trust the wisdom of people who work with the club on a daily basis, and whose knowledge of the club gives them a living, ahead of some anonymous trolls on the internet.

PhilR@Strike wrote:
Duffy mate don't rise to cityforthepremier baiting? You have every right as anyone on this site to your opinions.
cityforthepremier who the heck are you to think its your job to "catch out" people on this site? Stick to twitter if you want that sort of life, if you can call it that?
Happy New year all supporters of York city and the staff and team btw

Sorry, do carry on with the ill-informed poisonous nonsense about individual players. It's your right after all. God forbid you should ever be called to account and have your opinion challenged.

PhilR@Strike wrote:
Duffy mate don't rise to cityforthepremier baiting? You have every right as anyone on this site to your opinions.
cityforthepremier who the heck are you to think its your job to "catch out" people on this site? Stick to twitter if you want that sort of life, if you can call it that?
Happy New year all supporters of York city and the staff and team btw

Happy new year mate and the same to everyone else on here.

brahma wrote:

oldmanvecrayke wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote: I'd settle for just a decent striker tbh, if McGurk is back and on good form and Allan comes good over the next few months, the defense should be ok.

The risk we would take would be relying on one or both of Doig and McGurk not breaking down again which would leave us with a young Allan playing alongside Smith who has had a very dodgy season up until this point. I would rather we signed a quality league level centre half on a two year contract and that should see us sorted for not just this season but also the next one.

Smith has had such a dodgy season that he is jointly leading the Press Player of the Season standings.

Do you ever watch the team play ?

I go every week home and away. You?

Seriously ? And your opinion of Smith over the last couple of months ? Home games for me by the way.

This season he has been excellent, as illustrated by the fact he is leading the Press standings, however he has made some errors just as he did last season. But then so has everyone else because they are playing against better players and getting punished for their mistakes. I don't understand this witchhunt against top players like Smith and Chambers but fortunately I am sure they are professional to listen to the people around them who work with them day in day out and who actually know something about the game.

I don't have a witch hunt against anyone, I would have Chambers as player of the season at this point. But to say Smith has been excellent this season is frankly rubbish in my opinion, I would actually agree with Luke that he started the season quite well but has made mistake after mistake in the last couple of months but may improve with another centre half alongside him. You are rather patronising at times with your comments that posters have no understanding of football if they dare to make a less than positive comment. I think after watching city players for the last 36 years i can see when someone is playing well or struggling.

You are right and everyone else is wrong is that it? It's hard not to be patronising to someone who tries to speak with authority and knowledge about a player who he sees play at most twice a month. Perhaps have a more balanced opinion and listen to what better informed contributors tell you? You seem to be a very poor listener, less beligerence would do you good.

I have an opinion which is my right, what make someone else a better informed contributor ? And speaking with authority and knowledge ? I'm commenting on watching a player play football for gods sake, get off your high horse because your'e now just coming across as unbelievably arrogant. Not for the first time I have to say.

Still not listening I see. Oh well. The phrase "I have a right to my opinion" was bound to be trotted out eventually, the final fallback of the blinkered ignoramus who doesn't like being challenged with the facts. Looks like it's not just Chris Smith who is having a "dodgy season"!

Bloody hell just how big is that arrogant chip on your shoulder. What facts are you challenging me with" Smith has had an excellent season" ? You lost all credibility before you even started. Seriously my friend take a long hard look at yourself because you have some real issues with anyone with different views to yourself and life's too short, chill out a bit more.

It's some time since I contributed to this forum. Now I just read the **** that goes on, the last time I wrote it was to complain about one of the City bashers that only seemed to contribute when City had not fared well. At the time Duffy commented that I " REALLY DIDNT LIKE OTHER PEOPLES OPINIONS" . Couldn't understand the comment when I'd never said anything the like before. I continue to go see City as often as I can and listen to some of the brain deads that profess to know about football and how they'd make things better ????????? COME ON YOU CITY

On this point Duffy is quite right. City for the Premier is citing the YEP Player of the season standings as though it was some hugely authoritative poll of expert opinion; it's not, it's the marks given by the individual who writes the match report for each game - usually no more than three different people all season and in no sense experts.

Some of the ratings are a complete joke, I wonder at times if they are actually at the game, its no different to some of the man of the match awards given by sponsors.

Not quite as unedifying as the sight of rabid City supporters fighting each other at Chesterfield but it shows how easy it is to wind ourselves up.
Duffy has publicly modified his originally over optimistic view of Doig and, I think quite rightly, is concerned about young Allan being relied upon too early. However the intemperate use of hyper-critical "very dodgy this season" is bound to get up the noses of more considered posters. Similarily "this season he has been excellent" is not going to get a consensus. But in neither case should the view create personal abuse. As City supporters -I believe both protagonists fall into that category- we should be better than that. Like many others, Smith has had good and less good periods - at Chesterfield he blocked a certain first half goal but unfortunately had a 'mare for a period in the second half.
The players of the first half of the season are not the ones I would have picked in August but for me Parslow, Fyfield, and Chambers fall into that category. (Strange given our goals against column? - not really)
However, all the squad can improve in the second half and I expect most will.

Edsoni wrote:
Not quite as unedifying as the sight of rabid City supporters fighting each other at Chesterfield but it shows how easy it is to wind ourselves up.
Duffy has publicly modified his originally over optimistic view of Doig and, I think quite rightly, is concerned about young Allan being relied upon too early. However the intemperate use of hyper-critical "very dodgy this season" is bound to get up the noses of more considered posters. Similarily "this season he has been excellent" is not going to get a consensus. But in neither case should the view create personal abuse. As City supporters -I believe both protagonists fall into that category- we should be better than that. Like many others, Smith has had good and less good periods - at Chesterfield he blocked a certain first half goal but unfortunately had a 'mare for a period in the second half.
The players of the first half of the season are not the ones I would have picked in August but for me Parslow, Fyfield, and Chambers fall into that category. (Strange given our goals against column? - not really)
However, all the squad can improve in the second half and I expect most will.

It is quite correct to state that I did rate Doig a very good player when he first joined us, I honestly think the number of injuries he has had have caught up with him though and he looks to have lost a yard of pace to me. I don't think we are a actually a million miles away with the squad we have and a fit McGurk certainly strengthens it. I would have let Fyfield go in the summer but have to say he has shown he was worth keeping. I would still like to see another centre half and forward at the club and go think it will happen over the next few days.

Ive made popcorn. Anymore or is Dave from Easingwold now gone out tonight ?

Settle down folks, No central defender needed now McGurk is back. Parslow can provide cover for any injury worries with Banjo to fill in at the back if required. Let get a big striker that Walker can feed off and Kearns back if the fatman does not get him. Rodman,Reed,send them on there way.

Sorry Budgie bt Reed= goals and the sooner millsy gives him more time in the team, they will be more plentiful. Other players perform much worse and stay in for weeks.
Walker works hard but hsnt got the shooting boots this season so put himwide and Reed in the middle and see what happens if 433 must be continued would rather reedand walker playing off each other in a 442 much like the Cole and Yorke European conquerors of Manchester United!

Would like to wish all the York staff players and fans a happy New year