Gary Mills points finger over York City’s lack of ‘hunger’

First published in Sport York Press: Photograph of the Author by , Sports reporter

DISAPPOINTED York City manager Gary Mills complained that Plymouth were “hungrier” than his players in Saturday’s 2-0 defeat at Home Park.

A Jamal Fyfield own goal and Nick Chadwick’s late header condemned the Minstermen to only their third league defeat on the road in 2012.

But Mills admitted that the better team won on the day as Argyle registered their first victory in ten matches.

The City chief said: “We were second best and they won all the second balls from start to finish. They thoroughly deserved the three points and we deserved what we got – absolutely nothing.

“We passed the ball very well in our last match at Rochdale but you need the ball first to enable you to play. They were in our faces from the word go and did not allow us to pass it.

“If that happens, you have to make sure you are first to the ball and just hook it up the pitch if you have to. They did that sometimes and our back four were under pressure from the first minute. Theirs were not.

“It’s a long way to come to perform like that and we have to learn from the game because you cannot play without the ball – you have to go and get it. Plymouth wanted it a bit more than we did.

“They were switched on and looked hungrier and that’s what hurts most.

“I counted that they put the ball in our box six times from free-kicks in the opening 20 minutes just because they had won the ball. We didn’t do that once until right at the end.”

Mills even switched to an unfamiliar 3-4-3 formation when he gave Danny Blanchett a rare outing on the left side of midfield midway through the second half.

On that experiment, he explained: “I did a couple of things and I’ve not done that (played 3-4-3) before. They only had one up front and I wanted to push us further up the pitch.

“We decided to be more direct to try to get something out of the game that way.

“We needed to try something different to try to nick an equaliser, as poorly as we were playing, but we never got into a situation where we looked like we were going to score.” Mills will now decide whether to bolster his squad this week by recalling Lee Bullock or Jonathan Smith, or both, from their respective loan spells at Gateshead and Luton.

Former Swindon midfielder Smith was on target during Luton’s 3-0 home win over Alfreton on Saturday.

First-year pro Tom Platt could also be another option after bagging a brace for Harrogate Town in a 2-1 win at Colwyn Bay – taking his goal tally to five since joining the Blue Square Bet North outfit last month. Mills added: “I have to make decisions and we will see where that takes us.”

The Minstermen boss has also challenged his team to improve a home record that has reaped just two Bootham Crescent triumphs in League Two this term.

Bristol Rovers and Gillingham visit North Yorkshire on consecutive weekends for City’s next two matches and Mills said: “What happened (at Plymouth) doesn’t happen to this team every week and we’ve now got to go in front of our fans during the next two games and show the same desire that Plymouth did to win a game in front of theirs.”

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12:46pm Mon 10 Dec 12

YorkCityLuke says...

Things do need to improve, but our situation at the moment is not nearly as bad as some of the knee-jerk reactions have made out. We're 15th - there are 9 teams who should be more worried about relegation than we are. We have shown that we can out-play even the better teams (Port Vale, Bradford, Rotherham), we just need much more consistent quality and effort from the players/manager. A win against Bristol Rovers could put us back in the top half, and within 3 points of the play-offs. At this stage of the season, that is a pretty good achievement for a club which came up through the Conference play-offs.
Things do need to improve, but our situation at the moment is not nearly as bad as some of the knee-jerk reactions have made out. We're 15th - there are 9 teams who should be more worried about relegation than we are. We have shown that we can out-play even the better teams (Port Vale, Bradford, Rotherham), we just need much more consistent quality and effort from the players/manager. A win against Bristol Rovers could put us back in the top half, and within 3 points of the play-offs. At this stage of the season, that is a pretty good achievement for a club which came up through the Conference play-offs. YorkCityLuke
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1:22pm Mon 10 Dec 12

ian923 says...

I agree with York City Luke and as a loyal supporter i will be in the Longhurst as usual on Saturday hoping for a good performance with some grit, guts effort and hopefully skill. Let's get behind the team, show some support and try to give them some confidence to perform.
I wasn't there on Saturday but a great well done for the 188 who did go. Come on City!
I agree with York City Luke and as a loyal supporter i will be in the Longhurst as usual on Saturday hoping for a good performance with some grit, guts effort and hopefully skill. Let's get behind the team, show some support and try to give them some confidence to perform. I wasn't there on Saturday but a great well done for the 188 who did go. Come on City! ian923
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1:25pm Mon 10 Dec 12

dangermoose says...

Don't worry we can all look forward to seeing Chambers, Parslow and Smith strutting their stuff this Saturday.........AKA The Undroppable Love Children. The worry after our Summer signings is what rubbish Mills has his sights on in January.............
Don't worry we can all look forward to seeing Chambers, Parslow and Smith strutting their stuff this Saturday.........AKA The Undroppable Love Children. The worry after our Summer signings is what rubbish Mills has his sights on in January............. dangermoose
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1:31pm Mon 10 Dec 12

openallhours says...

I actually agree with YorkCityLuke!

Praying for a good display on Saturday and our 3rd home win of the season is surely long overdue.
I actually agree with YorkCityLuke! Praying for a good display on Saturday and our 3rd home win of the season is surely long overdue. openallhours
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1:46pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Yorkie69 says...

I can`t believe some of the postings I saw after the defeat at Plymouth. A bad day at the office. It happens ! A pity that the loyal supporters who travelled all the way to Plymouth saw such a poor display. There was an excellent article by Ian Hey in the Torquay home programme. I suggest it is read asap by certain people ! We are in a comfortable position in the league at the moment and GM is THE best manger for quite a while !
I can`t believe some of the postings I saw after the defeat at Plymouth. A bad day at the office. It happens ! A pity that the loyal supporters who travelled all the way to Plymouth saw such a poor display. There was an excellent article by Ian Hey in the Torquay home programme. I suggest it is read asap by certain people ! We are in a comfortable position in the league at the moment and GM is THE best manger for quite a while ! Yorkie69
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1:52pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Tug job says...

openallhours wrote:
I actually agree with YorkCityLuke! Praying for a good display on Saturday and our 3rd home win of the season is surely long overdue.
I didn't go on Saturday but have seen City 24 times this season and have only seen them play really poorly once - against Wimbledon. Following last season's success, many people have formed unrealistic expectations of what the club can achieve and although nothing is guaranteed, I feel it is very unlikely that we will be relegated at the end of the season. Unfortunately, it is also very unlikely that we will make the play offs this season, but most of us would have settled for a mid table position back in August. Every club has a few bad games throughout a season - we are very much a club in transition and the players, management and board need our continued support if we are to develop and become re-established as a football league club. There is no point in sniping at individuals when results don't go our way and there is no need for posters on this site to engage in petty squabbles. I am surprised that the YEP allows some of the comments posted to stand. Roll on Saturday and, hopefully, another three points. COYR
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: I actually agree with YorkCityLuke! Praying for a good display on Saturday and our 3rd home win of the season is surely long overdue.[/p][/quote]I didn't go on Saturday but have seen City 24 times this season and have only seen them play really poorly once - against Wimbledon. Following last season's success, many people have formed unrealistic expectations of what the club can achieve and although nothing is guaranteed, I feel it is very unlikely that we will be relegated at the end of the season. Unfortunately, it is also very unlikely that we will make the play offs this season, but most of us would have settled for a mid table position back in August. Every club has a few bad games throughout a season - we are very much a club in transition and the players, management and board need our continued support if we are to develop and become re-established as a football league club. There is no point in sniping at individuals when results don't go our way and there is no need for posters on this site to engage in petty squabbles. I am surprised that the YEP allows some of the comments posted to stand. Roll on Saturday and, hopefully, another three points. COYR Tug job
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2:39pm Mon 10 Dec 12

RooBeck says...

Watching the video on Sky Sports, you have to say that our defending from(yet another set-piece) was poor - it looks as if there was only one Plymouth player in the six-yard area when the ball from the corner-kick was played in and we had the keeper and five others but no City player made any great effort to win the ball!! So, something wrong with tactics/communicatio
n here, that must be addressed! Their second goal was not disimilar to Rochdale's first - (backing-off from a determined, deep run and allowing a shot at goal when a challenge(s) should have been made) and when Chadwick followed-up Ingham's fine save from two yards out - not a City defender in sight - so again, something wrong with our defensive tactics/covering. The majority of City fans realise that this is a transitional season but GM has mentioned in this paper on more than one occasion, that he see's no reason why we can't be up towards the top of the table this season and challenging for honours. What is disappointing, is the undoubted talent that this team possess and yet, becomes so inconsistent and un-focussed and gifts points to teams that we have been more than equal to. If a realistic aim is mid-table safety, then, okay, but from what I have seen, if we could tighten-up and organise the defence better and find a consistent goal-scorer (average a goal every two games), then we could be challenging towards the Top Seven part of the league table and with confidence running high.COYR.
Watching the video on Sky Sports, you have to say that our defending from(yet another set-piece) was poor - it looks as if there was only one Plymouth player in the six-yard area when the ball from the corner-kick was played in and we had the keeper and five others but no City player made any great effort to win the ball!! So, something wrong with tactics/communicatio n here, that must be addressed! Their second goal was not disimilar to Rochdale's first - (backing-off from a determined, deep run and allowing a shot at goal when a challenge(s) should have been made) and when Chadwick followed-up Ingham's fine save from two yards out - not a City defender in sight - so again, something wrong with our defensive tactics/covering. The majority of City fans realise that this is a transitional season but GM has mentioned in this paper on more than one occasion, that he see's no reason why we can't be up towards the top of the table this season and challenging for honours. What is disappointing, is the undoubted talent that this team possess and yet, becomes so inconsistent and un-focussed and gifts points to teams that we have been more than equal to. If a realistic aim is mid-table safety, then, okay, but from what I have seen, if we could tighten-up and organise the defence better and find a consistent goal-scorer (average a goal every two games), then we could be challenging towards the Top Seven part of the league table and with confidence running high.COYR. RooBeck
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2:51pm Mon 10 Dec 12

PhilTopping says...

Yorkie69 wrote:
I can`t believe some of the postings I saw after the defeat at Plymouth. A bad day at the office. It happens ! A pity that the loyal supporters who travelled all the way to Plymouth saw such a poor display. There was an excellent article by Ian Hey in the Torquay home programme. I suggest it is read asap by certain people ! We are in a comfortable position in the league at the moment and GM is THE best manger for quite a while !
Unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder whether Mills was just our best manager in the Conference, but possibly being found out at league level.

I witnessed the Plymouth match and it was dreadful.

Our record at the moment is 3 wins in 15 matches.

Gary Mills was very poor in his last venture into the football league with Notts County. I hope that Notts County experience was just a one off. But the players looked disinterested and tired on Saturday, not for the first time over the past 6 weeks.

Unmotivated, disinterested, low energy levels, low concentration, poorly organised. All these have been visible in most games over the past few weeks. Might be a blip, might be something much worse.
[quote][p][bold]Yorkie69[/bold] wrote: I can`t believe some of the postings I saw after the defeat at Plymouth. A bad day at the office. It happens ! A pity that the loyal supporters who travelled all the way to Plymouth saw such a poor display. There was an excellent article by Ian Hey in the Torquay home programme. I suggest it is read asap by certain people ! We are in a comfortable position in the league at the moment and GM is THE best manger for quite a while ![/p][/quote]Unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder whether Mills was just our best manager in the Conference, but possibly being found out at league level. I witnessed the Plymouth match and it was dreadful. Our record at the moment is 3 wins in 15 matches. Gary Mills was very poor in his last venture into the football league with Notts County. I hope that Notts County experience was just a one off. But the players looked disinterested and tired on Saturday, not for the first time over the past 6 weeks. Unmotivated, disinterested, low energy levels, low concentration, poorly organised. All these have been visible in most games over the past few weeks. Might be a blip, might be something much worse. PhilTopping
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3:22pm Mon 10 Dec 12

YO1 says...

PhilTopping wrote:
Yorkie69 wrote:
I can`t believe some of the postings I saw after the defeat at Plymouth. A bad day at the office. It happens ! A pity that the loyal supporters who travelled all the way to Plymouth saw such a poor display. There was an excellent article by Ian Hey in the Torquay home programme. I suggest it is read asap by certain people ! We are in a comfortable position in the league at the moment and GM is THE best manger for quite a while !
Unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder whether Mills was just our best manager in the Conference, but possibly being found out at league level.

I witnessed the Plymouth match and it was dreadful.

Our record at the moment is 3 wins in 15 matches.

Gary Mills was very poor in his last venture into the football league with Notts County. I hope that Notts County experience was just a one off. But the players looked disinterested and tired on Saturday, not for the first time over the past 6 weeks.

Unmotivated, disinterested, low energy levels, low concentration, poorly organised. All these have been visible in most games over the past few weeks. Might be a blip, might be something much worse.
I've supported the players and Gary Mills throughout but I'm starting to wonder whether we can get out of this blip. My gut feeling is that we are transcending downwards and the players losing the fight.

I think there must be something seriously wrong in the camp for the players to give such a lacklustre display.

All the players who were brought in to inject the push into the league have now gone.

I hope GM is going to use the saved wages from Bully and Smithy to pull some major signings in January. Previous history doesn't bode well and I hope he doesn't blow the money on poor signings. We need to rebuild quickly but I suspect a cloud has descended on the current management team and this is rubbing off on the players.

This team has surpassed expectations in the past and GM is a fighter so let's support the team to see what happens in the transfer window.
[quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yorkie69[/bold] wrote: I can`t believe some of the postings I saw after the defeat at Plymouth. A bad day at the office. It happens ! A pity that the loyal supporters who travelled all the way to Plymouth saw such a poor display. There was an excellent article by Ian Hey in the Torquay home programme. I suggest it is read asap by certain people ! We are in a comfortable position in the league at the moment and GM is THE best manger for quite a while ![/p][/quote]Unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder whether Mills was just our best manager in the Conference, but possibly being found out at league level. I witnessed the Plymouth match and it was dreadful. Our record at the moment is 3 wins in 15 matches. Gary Mills was very poor in his last venture into the football league with Notts County. I hope that Notts County experience was just a one off. But the players looked disinterested and tired on Saturday, not for the first time over the past 6 weeks. Unmotivated, disinterested, low energy levels, low concentration, poorly organised. All these have been visible in most games over the past few weeks. Might be a blip, might be something much worse.[/p][/quote]I've supported the players and Gary Mills throughout but I'm starting to wonder whether we can get out of this blip. My gut feeling is that we are transcending downwards and the players losing the fight. I think there must be something seriously wrong in the camp for the players to give such a lacklustre display. All the players who were brought in to inject the push into the league have now gone. I hope GM is going to use the saved wages from Bully and Smithy to pull some major signings in January. Previous history doesn't bode well and I hope he doesn't blow the money on poor signings. We need to rebuild quickly but I suspect a cloud has descended on the current management team and this is rubbing off on the players. This team has surpassed expectations in the past and GM is a fighter so let's support the team to see what happens in the transfer window. YO1
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3:39pm Mon 10 Dec 12

long distance depressive says...

Tug job wrote:
openallhours wrote:
I actually agree with YorkCityLuke! Praying for a good display on Saturday and our 3rd home win of the season is surely long overdue.
I didn't go on Saturday but have seen City 24 times this season and have only seen them play really poorly once - against Wimbledon. Following last season's success, many people have formed unrealistic expectations of what the club can achieve and although nothing is guaranteed, I feel it is very unlikely that we will be relegated at the end of the season. Unfortunately, it is also very unlikely that we will make the play offs this season, but most of us would have settled for a mid table position back in August. Every club has a few bad games throughout a season - we are very much a club in transition and the players, management and board need our continued support if we are to develop and become re-established as a football league club. There is no point in sniping at individuals when results don't go our way and there is no need for posters on this site to engage in petty squabbles. I am surprised that the YEP allows some of the comments posted to stand. Roll on Saturday and, hopefully, another three points. COYR
Only one poor performance? you are easily pleased!! OK some of the recent letters have been doom monger stuff BUT the performances have been variable and the homes ones generally a let down. We are doing averagely this season but the trend of displays recently is worrying as are Mr Mills's selections and substitutions. 3 points on Saturday against a (currently) poor side will steady the ship...but you know what generally happens when teams on a poor run come to play us!!?
[quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: I actually agree with YorkCityLuke! Praying for a good display on Saturday and our 3rd home win of the season is surely long overdue.[/p][/quote]I didn't go on Saturday but have seen City 24 times this season and have only seen them play really poorly once - against Wimbledon. Following last season's success, many people have formed unrealistic expectations of what the club can achieve and although nothing is guaranteed, I feel it is very unlikely that we will be relegated at the end of the season. Unfortunately, it is also very unlikely that we will make the play offs this season, but most of us would have settled for a mid table position back in August. Every club has a few bad games throughout a season - we are very much a club in transition and the players, management and board need our continued support if we are to develop and become re-established as a football league club. There is no point in sniping at individuals when results don't go our way and there is no need for posters on this site to engage in petty squabbles. I am surprised that the YEP allows some of the comments posted to stand. Roll on Saturday and, hopefully, another three points. COYR[/p][/quote]Only one poor performance? you are easily pleased!! OK some of the recent letters have been doom monger stuff BUT the performances have been variable and the homes ones generally a let down. We are doing averagely this season but the trend of displays recently is worrying as are Mr Mills's selections and substitutions. 3 points on Saturday against a (currently) poor side will steady the ship...but you know what generally happens when teams on a poor run come to play us!!? long distance depressive
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3:40pm Mon 10 Dec 12

yorkiemike says...

At last some sensible comments and concerns in the majority of the above articles instead of the dross over the weekend.
Tugjob and Roobeck make some good points.We need to get behind the team and management they don`t become useless overnight.Sure we`ve had some disappointing results but we know the team can play good football.They are lacking consistency at the moment but nothing a couple of wins won`t put right.
We knew this league wasn`t going to be a walk in the park and we have limited resources so we have to persevere with our squad and back GM to keep us there.
At last some sensible comments and concerns in the majority of the above articles instead of the dross over the weekend. Tugjob and Roobeck make some good points.We need to get behind the team and management they don`t become useless overnight.Sure we`ve had some disappointing results but we know the team can play good football.They are lacking consistency at the moment but nothing a couple of wins won`t put right. We knew this league wasn`t going to be a walk in the park and we have limited resources so we have to persevere with our squad and back GM to keep us there. yorkiemike
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3:44pm Mon 10 Dec 12

kirkbride1979 says...

we are a mid table team and at the end of the season if we are still mid table then i will be a very happy city fan !!! This season is all about staying in league 2
we are a mid table team and at the end of the season if we are still mid table then i will be a very happy city fan !!! This season is all about staying in league 2 kirkbride1979
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4:36pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Phil, Leeds says...

It was inevitable that we were going to lose an away game before too long but that was only the 3rd away defeat in a league game in 2012 which is a fine record. By the same token it is inevitable that we will soon win a home game - hopefully on Saturday. I hope that the tired performance on Saturday was just a one off and not a more deep rooted problem that one or two people are alluding to. If we have a poor performance and defeat again on Saturday then it may well be time to worry. What has been worrying is the number of times Ingham has made a decent save recently only for a goal to be scored straight from the rebound, doesn't reflect well on the defenders who've been too slow to react.

With regard to Bullock and Smith, I'm not really bothered whether we see them again as I think they are currently playing at their level in the BSP. However, I think it might be interesting to see if Tom Platt can bring something to the team.
It was inevitable that we were going to lose an away game before too long but that was only the 3rd away defeat in a league game in 2012 which is a fine record. By the same token it is inevitable that we will soon win a home game - hopefully on Saturday. I hope that the tired performance on Saturday was just a one off and not a more deep rooted problem that one or two people are alluding to. If we have a poor performance and defeat again on Saturday then it may well be time to worry. What has been worrying is the number of times Ingham has made a decent save recently only for a goal to be scored straight from the rebound, doesn't reflect well on the defenders who've been too slow to react. With regard to Bullock and Smith, I'm not really bothered whether we see them again as I think they are currently playing at their level in the BSP. However, I think it might be interesting to see if Tom Platt can bring something to the team. Phil, Leeds
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4:41pm Mon 10 Dec 12

thirsky says...

The final points tally over the course of a season are a true reflection of a teams performances. Last season we ended fifth in the Conference. Any team that finishes in this postion are not going to run amok in NPower League 2. We have somehow amassed 27 points from 21 games - less than half. We are fifteenth in a division with 24 teams - less than halfway. We play nice tippy tappy football from time to time which is not suited for this standard of football and look what is happening - we are sliding down the table.
The final points tally over the course of a season are a true reflection of a teams performances. Last season we ended fifth in the Conference. Any team that finishes in this postion are not going to run amok in NPower League 2. We have somehow amassed 27 points from 21 games - less than half. We are fifteenth in a division with 24 teams - less than halfway. We play nice tippy tappy football from time to time which is not suited for this standard of football and look what is happening - we are sliding down the table. thirsky
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5:08pm Mon 10 Dec 12

RooBeck says...

thirsky wrote:
The final points tally over the course of a season are a true reflection of a teams performances. Last season we ended fifth in the Conference. Any team that finishes in this postion are not going to run amok in NPower League 2. We have somehow amassed 27 points from 21 games - less than half. We are fifteenth in a division with 24 teams - less than halfway. We play nice tippy tappy football from time to time which is not suited for this standard of football and look what is happening - we are sliding down the table.
We finished in fourth place, otherwise we would have been up against Wrexham in the play-offs!!
[quote][p][bold]thirsky[/bold] wrote: The final points tally over the course of a season are a true reflection of a teams performances. Last season we ended fifth in the Conference. Any team that finishes in this postion are not going to run amok in NPower League 2. We have somehow amassed 27 points from 21 games - less than half. We are fifteenth in a division with 24 teams - less than halfway. We play nice tippy tappy football from time to time which is not suited for this standard of football and look what is happening - we are sliding down the table.[/p][/quote]We finished in fourth place, otherwise we would have been up against Wrexham in the play-offs!! RooBeck
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7:41pm Mon 10 Dec 12

kirkbride1979 says...

result have not been what we would like but we have over half the points we need to be safe in this league and we are not half way yet !!!! staying in this league is what it is all about !! We are not ready for league 1
result have not been what we would like but we have over half the points we need to be safe in this league and we are not half way yet !!!! staying in this league is what it is all about !! We are not ready for league 1 kirkbride1979
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8:14pm Mon 10 Dec 12

duffy says...

Tug job wrote:
openallhours wrote:
I actually agree with YorkCityLuke! Praying for a good display on Saturday and our 3rd home win of the season is surely long overdue.
I didn't go on Saturday but have seen City 24 times this season and have only seen them play really poorly once - against Wimbledon. Following last season's success, many people have formed unrealistic expectations of what the club can achieve and although nothing is guaranteed, I feel it is very unlikely that we will be relegated at the end of the season. Unfortunately, it is also very unlikely that we will make the play offs this season, but most of us would have settled for a mid table position back in August. Every club has a few bad games throughout a season - we are very much a club in transition and the players, management and board need our continued support if we are to develop and become re-established as a football league club. There is no point in sniping at individuals when results don't go our way and there is no need for posters on this site to engage in petty squabbles. I am surprised that the YEP allows some of the comments posted to stand. Roll on Saturday and, hopefully, another three points. COYR
To be fair you have to ask if the comments from both Mills and Jason that we were going for promotion again were the wisest thing to say because that's what raised expectations before a ball was kicked. While we all want the club to aim high those comments always had a chance of coming back to bite them and its probably backfired to a certain degree
[quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: I actually agree with YorkCityLuke! Praying for a good display on Saturday and our 3rd home win of the season is surely long overdue.[/p][/quote]I didn't go on Saturday but have seen City 24 times this season and have only seen them play really poorly once - against Wimbledon. Following last season's success, many people have formed unrealistic expectations of what the club can achieve and although nothing is guaranteed, I feel it is very unlikely that we will be relegated at the end of the season. Unfortunately, it is also very unlikely that we will make the play offs this season, but most of us would have settled for a mid table position back in August. Every club has a few bad games throughout a season - we are very much a club in transition and the players, management and board need our continued support if we are to develop and become re-established as a football league club. There is no point in sniping at individuals when results don't go our way and there is no need for posters on this site to engage in petty squabbles. I am surprised that the YEP allows some of the comments posted to stand. Roll on Saturday and, hopefully, another three points. COYR[/p][/quote]To be fair you have to ask if the comments from both Mills and Jason that we were going for promotion again were the wisest thing to say because that's what raised expectations before a ball was kicked. While we all want the club to aim high those comments always had a chance of coming back to bite them and its probably backfired to a certain degree duffy
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8:35pm Mon 10 Dec 12

OLD - HEAD says...

Dead right "duffy", a lot of people were expecting a lot more than the current squad can offer after those comments.
Dead right "duffy", a lot of people were expecting a lot more than the current squad can offer after those comments. OLD - HEAD
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8:38pm Mon 10 Dec 12

tips says...

Get a grip chaps it's our first season after promotion we are not halfway through the fixtures yet and have not got through the Christmas period.
Early January should tell us where we are going .Ok so we are not performing as well as we all hoped for but get behind Gary and the lads on Saturday .
COYR
Get a grip chaps it's our first season after promotion we are not halfway through the fixtures yet and have not got through the Christmas period. Early January should tell us where we are going .Ok so we are not performing as well as we all hoped for but get behind Gary and the lads on Saturday . COYR tips
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9:50pm Mon 10 Dec 12

rupertbehr says...

PhilTopping wrote:
Yorkie69 wrote:
I can`t believe some of the postings I saw after the defeat at Plymouth. A bad day at the office. It happens ! A pity that the loyal supporters who travelled all the way to Plymouth saw such a poor display. There was an excellent article by Ian Hey in the Torquay home programme. I suggest it is read asap by certain people ! We are in a comfortable position in the league at the moment and GM is THE best manger for quite a while !
Unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder whether Mills was just our best manager in the Conference, but possibly being found out at league level.

I witnessed the Plymouth match and it was dreadful.

Our record at the moment is 3 wins in 15 matches.

Gary Mills was very poor in his last venture into the football league with Notts County. I hope that Notts County experience was just a one off. But the players looked disinterested and tired on Saturday, not for the first time over the past 6 weeks.

Unmotivated, disinterested, low energy levels, low concentration, poorly organised. All these have been visible in most games over the past few weeks. Might be a blip, might be something much worse.
Being found out at league level !.....
Are you serious ?,
I didn't witness the Plymouth game, however I was at Barnet, Southend, Bradford, .......and Rochdale etc
and at each and every away game Ive attended (prior to this one) the home supporters I've spoken to are without exception complimentary towards City's style of play.
And let's not forget who we need to thank for that !!!
Trust me, I'm no Sycophant, and at times I'm as frustrated as the next man at not going 442 ........when needed.
But to doubt the man in December when were 15th in the league is ridiculous
Stick with it Millsy. ........COYR
[quote][p][bold]PhilTopping[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yorkie69[/bold] wrote: I can`t believe some of the postings I saw after the defeat at Plymouth. A bad day at the office. It happens ! A pity that the loyal supporters who travelled all the way to Plymouth saw such a poor display. There was an excellent article by Ian Hey in the Torquay home programme. I suggest it is read asap by certain people ! We are in a comfortable position in the league at the moment and GM is THE best manger for quite a while ![/p][/quote]Unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder whether Mills was just our best manager in the Conference, but possibly being found out at league level. I witnessed the Plymouth match and it was dreadful. Our record at the moment is 3 wins in 15 matches. Gary Mills was very poor in his last venture into the football league with Notts County. I hope that Notts County experience was just a one off. But the players looked disinterested and tired on Saturday, not for the first time over the past 6 weeks. Unmotivated, disinterested, low energy levels, low concentration, poorly organised. All these have been visible in most games over the past few weeks. Might be a blip, might be something much worse.[/p][/quote]Being found out at league level !..... Are you serious ?, I didn't witness the Plymouth game, however I was at Barnet, Southend, Bradford, .......and Rochdale etc and at each and every away game Ive attended (prior to this one) the home supporters I've spoken to are without exception complimentary towards City's style of play. And let's not forget who we need to thank for that !!! Trust me, I'm no Sycophant, and at times I'm as frustrated as the next man at not going 442 ........when needed. But to doubt the man in December when were 15th in the league is ridiculous Stick with it Millsy. ........COYR rupertbehr
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10:19pm Mon 10 Dec 12

YoRkIe59 says...

i think its true thats its possibly unfortunate G M talking of the play offs and back to back promotions at the start of the season nothing wrong with confidence and optimism but most people would accept mid table survival and consolidation this season.Regards bringing back a tired old sounding Bullock or a totally disrespectfull uninterested Smith whats the point let em go in jan and see who he can bring in personally i think a young enthusiastic confident up and coming platt has to be a better bet than Bullock or Smith.
i think its true thats its possibly unfortunate G M talking of the play offs and back to back promotions at the start of the season nothing wrong with confidence and optimism but most people would accept mid table survival and consolidation this season.Regards bringing back a tired old sounding Bullock or a totally disrespectfull uninterested Smith whats the point let em go in jan and see who he can bring in personally i think a young enthusiastic confident up and coming platt has to be a better bet than Bullock or Smith. YoRkIe59
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11:07pm Mon 10 Dec 12

haxbyreds says...

Some of the football played this season has been excellent, but for me all well and good when playing at a good tempo but struggle against a physical in your face team,players like Johnathan smith a strong tackling midfielder with a good engine is a must,plus def need a big strong striker to hold the ball up when up against it like teams like Plymouth,Northampton etc,
Some of the football played this season has been excellent, but for me all well and good when playing at a good tempo but struggle against a physical in your face team,players like Johnathan smith a strong tackling midfielder with a good engine is a must,plus def need a big strong striker to hold the ball up when up against it like teams like Plymouth,Northampton etc, haxbyreds
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12:29am Tue 11 Dec 12

GreenshawGrinder says...

The big test will be to see how the team responds against Bristol Rovers. They have only picked up six points from ten away games so will be happy with at least a draw. This should be a good chance for us to pick up three points, but how many times have we said that this season? A week later and we have Gillingham at home, easy!
The big test will be to see how the team responds against Bristol Rovers. They have only picked up six points from ten away games so will be happy with at least a draw. This should be a good chance for us to pick up three points, but how many times have we said that this season? A week later and we have Gillingham at home, easy! GreenshawGrinder
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9:51am Tue 11 Dec 12

Tug job says...

long distance depressive wrote:
Tug job wrote:
openallhours wrote: I actually agree with YorkCityLuke! Praying for a good display on Saturday and our 3rd home win of the season is surely long overdue.
I didn't go on Saturday but have seen City 24 times this season and have only seen them play really poorly once - against Wimbledon. Following last season's success, many people have formed unrealistic expectations of what the club can achieve and although nothing is guaranteed, I feel it is very unlikely that we will be relegated at the end of the season. Unfortunately, it is also very unlikely that we will make the play offs this season, but most of us would have settled for a mid table position back in August. Every club has a few bad games throughout a season - we are very much a club in transition and the players, management and board need our continued support if we are to develop and become re-established as a football league club. There is no point in sniping at individuals when results don't go our way and there is no need for posters on this site to engage in petty squabbles. I am surprised that the YEP allows some of the comments posted to stand. Roll on Saturday and, hopefully, another three points. COYR
Only one poor performance? you are easily pleased!! OK some of the recent letters have been doom monger stuff BUT the performances have been variable and the homes ones generally a let down. We are doing averagely this season but the trend of displays recently is worrying as are Mr Mills's selections and substitutions. 3 points on Saturday against a (currently) poor side will steady the ship...but you know what generally happens when teams on a poor run come to play us!!?
I did say only one "really poor" performance, but then I didn't expect us to set the world alight. As for Saturday, yes, I am only too well aware of what generally happens when we play teams on a poor run! However, I am confident that we will win.
[quote][p][bold]long distance depressive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: I actually agree with YorkCityLuke! Praying for a good display on Saturday and our 3rd home win of the season is surely long overdue.[/p][/quote]I didn't go on Saturday but have seen City 24 times this season and have only seen them play really poorly once - against Wimbledon. Following last season's success, many people have formed unrealistic expectations of what the club can achieve and although nothing is guaranteed, I feel it is very unlikely that we will be relegated at the end of the season. Unfortunately, it is also very unlikely that we will make the play offs this season, but most of us would have settled for a mid table position back in August. Every club has a few bad games throughout a season - we are very much a club in transition and the players, management and board need our continued support if we are to develop and become re-established as a football league club. There is no point in sniping at individuals when results don't go our way and there is no need for posters on this site to engage in petty squabbles. I am surprised that the YEP allows some of the comments posted to stand. Roll on Saturday and, hopefully, another three points. COYR[/p][/quote]Only one poor performance? you are easily pleased!! OK some of the recent letters have been doom monger stuff BUT the performances have been variable and the homes ones generally a let down. We are doing averagely this season but the trend of displays recently is worrying as are Mr Mills's selections and substitutions. 3 points on Saturday against a (currently) poor side will steady the ship...but you know what generally happens when teams on a poor run come to play us!!?[/p][/quote]I did say only one "really poor" performance, but then I didn't expect us to set the world alight. As for Saturday, yes, I am only too well aware of what generally happens when we play teams on a poor run! However, I am confident that we will win. Tug job
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11:11am Tue 11 Dec 12

paintitred says...

I think the root cause of the negative anti formation and all round negative comments is clear and simple.We have just escaped 8 years of hell in the bsbp and as the club isnt perform as we all know they can, the thought of relegation is refreshing the memory of the last tine we were a league club and some fans are scared of the thought of dropping straight out so fent thier frustations on here,some fans are worried we are been sucked closer to the trap door. Remember the 1st season in the bsbp when we thought we would bounce straight back up that was an expectation that was soon extingushed. Same goes for this season where expectations were not managed.We are finding our feet and it may take a little time to find the balance.
some fans vent their frustations and some dont either way and what ever your opinons you have them because you care and are a city fan.

merry Christmas
I think the root cause of the negative anti formation and all round negative comments is clear and simple.We have just escaped 8 years of hell in the bsbp and as the club isnt perform as we all know they can, the thought of relegation is refreshing the memory of the last tine we were a league club and some fans are scared of the thought of dropping straight out so fent thier frustations on here,some fans are worried we are been sucked closer to the trap door. Remember the 1st season in the bsbp when we thought we would bounce straight back up that was an expectation that was soon extingushed. Same goes for this season where expectations were not managed.We are finding our feet and it may take a little time to find the balance. some fans vent their frustations and some dont either way and what ever your opinons you have them because you care and are a city fan. merry Christmas paintitred
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11:18am Tue 11 Dec 12

cityforthepremier says...

duffy wrote:
Tug job wrote:
openallhours wrote:
I actually agree with YorkCityLuke! Praying for a good display on Saturday and our 3rd home win of the season is surely long overdue.
I didn't go on Saturday but have seen City 24 times this season and have only seen them play really poorly once - against Wimbledon. Following last season's success, many people have formed unrealistic expectations of what the club can achieve and although nothing is guaranteed, I feel it is very unlikely that we will be relegated at the end of the season. Unfortunately, it is also very unlikely that we will make the play offs this season, but most of us would have settled for a mid table position back in August. Every club has a few bad games throughout a season - we are very much a club in transition and the players, management and board need our continued support if we are to develop and become re-established as a football league club. There is no point in sniping at individuals when results don't go our way and there is no need for posters on this site to engage in petty squabbles. I am surprised that the YEP allows some of the comments posted to stand. Roll on Saturday and, hopefully, another three points. COYR
To be fair you have to ask if the comments from both Mills and Jason that we were going for promotion again were the wisest thing to say because that's what raised expectations before a ball was kicked. While we all want the club to aim high those comments always had a chance of coming back to bite them and its probably backfired to a certain degree
Yeah they should have said, "We will finish 17th", that would have been a great way to raise excitement about our return to the Football League and to sell more season tickets. Jesus wept how cretinous even for this place.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: I actually agree with YorkCityLuke! Praying for a good display on Saturday and our 3rd home win of the season is surely long overdue.[/p][/quote]I didn't go on Saturday but have seen City 24 times this season and have only seen them play really poorly once - against Wimbledon. Following last season's success, many people have formed unrealistic expectations of what the club can achieve and although nothing is guaranteed, I feel it is very unlikely that we will be relegated at the end of the season. Unfortunately, it is also very unlikely that we will make the play offs this season, but most of us would have settled for a mid table position back in August. Every club has a few bad games throughout a season - we are very much a club in transition and the players, management and board need our continued support if we are to develop and become re-established as a football league club. There is no point in sniping at individuals when results don't go our way and there is no need for posters on this site to engage in petty squabbles. I am surprised that the YEP allows some of the comments posted to stand. Roll on Saturday and, hopefully, another three points. COYR[/p][/quote]To be fair you have to ask if the comments from both Mills and Jason that we were going for promotion again were the wisest thing to say because that's what raised expectations before a ball was kicked. While we all want the club to aim high those comments always had a chance of coming back to bite them and its probably backfired to a certain degree[/p][/quote]Yeah they should have said, "We will finish 17th", that would have been a great way to raise excitement about our return to the Football League and to sell more season tickets. Jesus wept how cretinous even for this place. cityforthepremier
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2:27pm Tue 11 Dec 12

Yorkie69 says...

I meant best manager ! Am in the festive season !
I meant best manager ! Am in the festive season ! Yorkie69
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