York City tumble to 3-0 home defeat by AFC Wimbledon in npower League Two (From York Press)

RingoStarr says...
5:30pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Suppose it makes a change from having a 'draw'!

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OLD - HEAD says...
5:32pm Sat 10 Nov 12

I can honestly say that during my 59 years of going to Bootham Crescent, I have seen some poor games. But todays game is right up there among the worst I have ever seen - "Enough Said"

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duffy says...
5:36pm Sat 10 Nov 12

A total embarrassment. Cut and pasted from red and blue but true.

"Smith has to come back from Luton
Rodman has to go back to Aldershot
McLaughlin has to start in midfield."

Blair should not be close to midfield.
Very, very angry.

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YorkCityLuke says...
5:43pm Sat 10 Nov 12

I'm as positive as they come about York, but that was probably the worst I've seen us play for a fair few seasons. We were second best (to a fairly poor team) in every position. We didn't even look particularly bothered, the only passion on the pitch was the misdirected bickering between Ingham and whoever he played a terrible long ball out to. Mills' reaction on the radio was also very poor - he should have to answer for results, no-one is calling for his job, just asking if now is the time to switch formation. Frankly, I'm not even convinced the formation was the problem, it was just poor all over the park. Special mention should maybe be made for Fyfield and Kearns, who played a distinctly mediocre (and therefore stand-out) game of football.

The only positive I can see in this is that we have an immediate and (relatively) low-stakes opportunity to redeem ourselves against the Dons on monday. But if we play like that again, we'll be out of the cup for sure.

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duffy says...
5:47pm Sat 10 Nov 12

YorkCityLuke wrote:
I'm as positive as they come about York, but that was probably the worst I've seen us play for a fair few seasons. We were second best (to a fairly poor team) in every position. We didn't even look particularly bothered, the only passion on the pitch was the misdirected bickering between Ingham and whoever he played a terrible long ball out to. Mills' reaction on the radio was also very poor - he should have to answer for results, no-one is calling for his job, just asking if now is the time to switch formation. Frankly, I'm not even convinced the formation was the problem, it was just poor all over the park. Special mention should maybe be made for Fyfield and Kearns, who played a distinctly mediocre (and therefore stand-out) game of football.

The only positive I can see in this is that we have an immediate and (relatively) low-stakes opportunity to redeem ourselves against the Dons on monday. But if we play like that again, we'll be out of the cup for sure.

Have to agree with all of that including Fyfield and Kearns who at least looked slightly decent. I'm not impressed at all with the after match comments from Mills who should have just admitted it was dismal and apologised to those that wasted good money and time to watch that. A very long journey home about to start.

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heartbreaker says...
5:48pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Are we still not allowed to criticise Mills? His interview on Radio York just now was really bad aswell. Can't lose your rag when it is suggested that a change of tactics might be needed following a 3-0 home defeat to one of the divsions poorer sides.

Suggested line up for Monday (442) :

Ingham, Oyebanjo McGurk Doig Fyfield, Kearns Parslow (I'd give Kerr a rest) Blair Chambers, Reed Johnson (also give Walker a rest). If going for 433 put Paddy in instead of Chambers.

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heartbreaker says...
5:55pm Sat 10 Nov 12

On a more positive note, Tom Platt scored twice today, so could be worth seeing him get a chance when he comes back. Seems ages since we've had a decent youth player actually come through and make it in the first team.

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dazthecat says...
6:00pm Sat 10 Nov 12

That was the worst match day experience I've had in a long long time. Everything about it was just awful, from the pitch to the stands.

I retract what I said on another thread about Blair showing some signs of improvement in midfield, he was awful today but he's by no means alone. Hopefully he's played himself out of contention for that role for good.

Only plus point was kearns, who I thought did his best to get us going but just had no help at all from anyone else. I hope mills sees that he has to start rotating a bit more, Johnson looked rusty when he came on and with no reserves to play on its not surprising, he's played very little competitive football this season and I believe with more minutes he'll prove to be a useful player.

Hope to see a few changes on Monday!

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YO1 says...
6:10pm Sat 10 Nov 12

duffy wrote:
A total embarrassment. Cut and pasted from red and blue but true.

"Smith has to come back from Luton
Rodman has to go back to Aldershot
McLaughlin has to start in midfield."

Blair should not be close to midfield.
Very, very angry.

Agree with every point there. Rodman worst debut I've seen in a long time. Blair in midfield a complete waste. No strength in depth. Challinor comes on in midfield and Smith is at Luton!

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joejamestom says...
6:12pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Well at least the lads kept going to the final whistle its got to hurt their pride.
As with many others Blair not a linking mid field player generally a low level of performance across the team, but we have not looked exactly sparkling for a while especially at home which is a shame as crowd numbers are holding up well, perhaps better to LWLW than DDD point wise anyway. Gave the lads brief polite clap as I thought both teams were poor in the 1st half they soaked up all our attempts to go over the top well, we won corners but as usual other than first no variety Jason not a certainty to start for me but who to fill the void in 433?
I would never boo my own team, just a stupid thoughtless reaction by a number of frustrated fans who expected far better its no wonder the players tend to play with more freedom & confidence away. The score flattered Wimbledon, I was more disappointed after a draw with 10 man Northampton, Come on City we are so much better than this performance on the field and the stands.
Revenge please & Happy Birthday Gary It took the whole team to be the way we were today wake up call perhaps?

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nigthepig says...
6:13pm Sat 10 Nov 12

This has been on the cards for a while. Blair in midfield - not in a million years, why on earth can't Mills see that. I don't know what happened in the Jonathan Smith saga but he is desperately needed here and not at Luton. Having had my moan I still think Mills is the best manager we have had here for years.

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Even AndyD says...
6:19pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Don't be sidetracked by the scoreline, the ineptitude was about much more than that. At 0-0 we still looked completely off the boil. Nothing went right, nobody looked confident, it was just the ultimate bad performance.

Kearnes and possibly Fyfield aside, everyone else was poor. Nothing to be gained from naming names, but a couple of players out there were shockingly bad.

Hopefully its just a game to get out of the system, but honestly - its was as bad as I've seen in a long time.

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Bert brennan says...
6:20pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Wimbledon were fitter, Wimbledon were quicker, Wimbledon were determined, Wimbledon won.

They seemed to have learned a lot since last week, what, if anything, have York learned since last week. Mr. Mills it's wake up time for you.

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PhilTopping says...
6:25pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Utter embarrassment.

Midfield was the weakest part. Kerr and Blair were hopeless and barely involved throughout. Where has the Kerr of 2011 gone? Why is Blair playing in midfield, "superb" he is not. Walker needs a rest. Chambers needs a rest. Mills needs to wake himself up or we're heading back to the conference.

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bartsimmo says...
6:26pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Can't say I havnt seen this coming for a while now. Looks like Mills and his tactics are too easy to read and he needs to get off his 433 high horse and eat some humble pie!
play players in their correct positions and penalise continued poor performances no matter whether they are your favorites or not!

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yorkie55 says...
6:29pm Sat 10 Nov 12

It was a poor game for sure york never turned up with only kearns giving his best. We were dreadful in all areas and again never looked like scoring. One more game on Monday for this lot to show what they can do! This result has been coming for weeks now. Big problem is not sure he has players in squad to make a big difference.
Maybe we has fans are expecting too much to soon?? herd a couple of muppets on way out (10 mins early) calling for mills to be sacked!!

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THETELLEROFTALES says...
6:38pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Mr Mills. I will always be grateful to you for getting us back in the foor=tball league.
You have often been quoted as saying that after your experience at Notts County you have some unfinished business.
I hope this season proves to be a success.
I have never managed a football team so what I say is a waste of time as far as you are concerned.
However.
YORK CITY DO NOT NEED ANOTHER WINGER.
YORK CITY DO NOT NEED ANOTHER MIDFIELDER.
YORK CITY DO NOT NEED ANOTHER CENTRE HALF.

YORK CITY NEED A CENTRAL STRIKER WHO CAN NOT ONLY HOLD THE BALL UP AND PLAY OTHERS IN BUT CONTRIBUTE WITH A FEW GOALS OF HIS OWN.

YORK CITY HAVE TODAY FAILED TO SCORE AGAINST A TEAM WITH THE WORST AWAY DEFENSIVE RECORD IN THE SECOND DIVISION.

That's got to hurt surely?

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minstermen says...
6:38pm Sat 10 Nov 12

calm down everyone a win on monday
and we will be back on track ,yes we played poor today but you have to remember
were we were this time last year
stay calm and carry on

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ADAMCUTHBERT says...
7:26pm Sat 10 Nov 12

We'll bounce back on Monday make no mistake! A bad day at the office that's all!

Gary will sort it!

keep the faith!

come on you reds!

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openallhours says...
7:37pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Where do we start with this one?! Absolute disgrace full stop. Still waiting for 'uhtred' to respond to my last post about Chambers.

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spockboy2 says...
7:48pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Cheer up I was there too and am gutted about the game and performance but hey ..think positive,we could be Leeds or Luton fans,check out the scores its so comforting.

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ian923 says...
7:48pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Kearns easily man of match for City.Dire performance all round. Ingram needs to curb his attitude. Changes needed for Monday. Rest Kerr and Walker and Chambers(no form or commitment)Danny P so unlucky to be on bench and must be recalled.give Oli and Pottsy a go as we'll-can,t do any worse!

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tomwillo1 says...
7:55pm Sat 10 Nov 12

It was the worst I've ever seen us play today out of all the games I have seen, even in the conference but I agreed 100% with everything Mills had to say in his interview after the game! We will bounce back. Its 1 bad game. BELIEVE

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paddymacwakey says...
8:00pm Sat 10 Nov 12

the last time i saw a performance like today was last season at tamworth.i agree with a few comments on here.i still say mills is a good manager,but he is shuffling the pack too much,and playing players out of position.blair is not a midfielder.mclaughli
n,when starting,has lost is attacking role from where he scored a lot of goals last season.no disrespect,but it seems kearns has taken over from him.the subs have little impact when they come on,because of no match practice.how is it we never look threatening from a corner or set piece,but the opposition always do.they never put 3 passes together today.where has the pace gone in the team.we have still got to strengthen the team,and get more firepower up front,and rodman is,nt the answer.

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Keith...lad says...
8:23pm Sat 10 Nov 12

What was going on out there today.Were they resting up for Mondays FA Cup tie.
I have been to 3 home games in a week about £50 and really only seen one good half against Northampton.
GM should have them all in for training on Sunday.
Why do supporter see things managers don't.
1.Blair is a forward not a lost dog in Midfield
2.If Jason Walker is of his game so r York City
3.We need a plan B at home.
4.There are too many players at York out of there depth at league level.
5.Why is Jonathan Smith at Luton he has good range of passing,good engine and very committed.

Please cheer us up on Monday

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Jo1971 says...
8:24pm Sat 10 Nov 12

We've lost a game of football, it hurts, we'll loose other games of football before the season is out. Gary Mills will put this right. He is the best manager we have had for a long long time. Remember this and Believe.

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Keith...lad says...
8:25pm Sat 10 Nov 12

duffy wrote:
A total embarrassment. Cut and pasted from red and blue but true.

"Smith has to come back from Luton
Rodman has to go back to Aldershot
McLaughlin has to start in midfield."

Blair should not be close to midfield.
Very, very angry.

Usually back City whatever.
But could not agree more duffy

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YO1 says...
8:32pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Our midfield and attack must be the smallest in the division. Both Northampton and Wimbledon were far bigger and stronger.

Surely Smith and Bullock were brought in to add some physical presence?

I was never a massive fan of Danny P as a midfielder put he would certainly have won some of those second balls in midfield today.

Maybe Banjo needs to step into
midfield again with his energy and strenghth. Not ideal but who else do we have left at the club?

I thought Millsy releasing Smith was the precursor to him using the funds to pull off a masterstroke. How wrong I was.

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Phil, Leeds says...
8:34pm Sat 10 Nov 12

So 2 wins from 11 home games now and Mills has the audacity to slag off supporters who are asking the legitimate question how about 442 instead of his adored 451 which works away but not at home. Couldn't believe his arrogant interview. Yes we're all grateful he got us back in the League but we can't live on that forever and forgive all the time for continual tactical and formation errors. He was outfoxed on Tuesday and again today by the Wimbledon manager.

Can't believe he left out Dan Parslow who's one of the most reliable and consistent players. Something's wrong with Ingham and to be honest Kerr and Walker can't justify automatic selection right now. Rodman was playing far too deep so can't tell what sort of striker he is, Blair ain't a midfielder and is wasted there and Reed, a proven goalscorer, only gets minimum game time.

As others have said, that drubbing was coming at home for some time. Unfortunately, the more the fans keep shouting for a change in formation the less likely Mills is to change anything. Typical football manager's stubbornness and arrogance I'm afraid. But it looks like we've been sussed at home.

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heartbreaker says...
8:39pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Spot on Phil. Others won't agree I'm sure but I was shocked by that interview. Very unprofessional and disrespectful to those who support and pay his wages.

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YO1 says...
8:47pm Sat 10 Nov 12

On a slight aside it seems common knowledge that Des Lyttle takes most of the training sessions now. I wonder how much this has contributed to the demise of last season's stylish passing game?

I may be doing the guy a massive disservice, but I've sat behind the dugout all season and I've never once heard him utter a positive or encouraging word to the players.

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arsene.about.york says...
8:49pm Sat 10 Nov 12

To quote Gary Mills from radio York
( it's a disappointing day for us, we have not had many ) Er, where have you been Gary all season ? not watching the home games that is for sure. This was just another in a long line of gradually worsening performances with players out of position and out of form trying to play a formation that has been found out at this level. He then accused Barry Parker of asking an insulting question when he dared to suggest a change of tactics, just proving how stubborn he must be. I have been watching York City for a very long time and I can see when the good times are coming to an end, this is one of them. We have players arguing amongst themselves Ingham/ Smith , blamihg each other when things go wrong Ingham /any out field player and some of them looking decidedly disinterested. It has GOT to change soon otherwise we will be staring back at the Blue Square again next season.

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haxbyreds says...
8:49pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Very disappointed with last 3 home games,passing seems a distant memory,but watch us play Wimbledon off park Monday but we are away,we need to change something at home because being at most away games this season we are a total different team,Mills is the best manager since John Ward but I totally disagree with him about Smith,should not be at Luton,2nd half against Northampton needed a big strong midfield player on pitch because a lot of players looked scared after that terrible tackle,today totally out muscled again in midfield

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Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...
8:51pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Woeful, woeful, woeful and that's after Tuesday, after today words fail me.

1: Have we forgotten how to shoot, example Blair second half, in the box all he had to do was shoot AND HE PASSED.

2: Kearns, good player but for the past 2 games all he's done is dance around the ball.

3: Walker, all he does now is spend most of the time looking for free kicks, he gets pushed of the ball to easily. he is a goal scorer not a provider.

4: We used 5 strikers today.

5: Ingham, I don't think he likes to get his white shirt dirty, kicking woeful.

6: I think Mills looked embaresssd today.

This result has been comming for a long while and I hope it wakes a few people up at the club. Des Lytle is a was of time, what does he do! Since he's come we have gone backwards we can't draw our way through this league. Rant over.

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big boy york says...
8:53pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Phil, Leeds wrote:
So 2 wins from 11 home games now and Mills has the audacity to slag off supporters who are asking the legitimate question how about 442 instead of his adored 451 which works away but not at home. Couldn't believe his arrogant interview. Yes we're all grateful he got us back in the League but we can't live on that forever and forgive all the time for continual tactical and formation errors. He was outfoxed on Tuesday and again today by the Wimbledon manager.

Can't believe he left out Dan Parslow who's one of the most reliable and consistent players. Something's wrong with Ingham and to be honest Kerr and Walker can't justify automatic selection right now. Rodman was playing far too deep so can't tell what sort of striker he is, Blair ain't a midfielder and is wasted there and Reed, a proven goalscorer, only gets minimum game time.

As others have said, that drubbing was coming at home for some time. Unfortunately, the more the fans keep shouting for a change in formation the less likely Mills is to change anything. Typical football manager's stubbornness and arrogance I'm afraid. But it looks like we've been sussed at home.

agree with you, is it just me or does anyone else think mills has taken us as far as he can ive thaught this for the last couple of weeks, his slagging off of the fans who pay his wage was a bad move as somebody wrote earlier £50 in a week is a lot of money these days, get beat monday & watch the home crowd tumble

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YorkCityLuke says...
8:57pm Sat 10 Nov 12

heartbreaker wrote:
Spot on Phil. Others won't agree I'm sure but I was shocked by that interview. Very unprofessional and disrespectful to those who support and pay his wages.

Yes it was a very unprofessional attitude - but I can only assume it was a 'heat of the moment' thing because he was as furious as the rest of us at how the game meant. I'm sure he'll regret the tone, if not the content, or the interview come tomorrow.

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Helliwell's Not a Donkey says...
8:58pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Woeful, woeful, woeful and that's after Tuesday, after today words fail me.

1: Have we forgotten how to shoot, example Blair second half, in the box all he had to do was shoot AND HE PASSED.

2: Kearns, good player but for the past 2 games all he's done is dance around the ball.

3: Walker, all he does now is spend most of the time looking for free kicks, he gets pushed of the ball to easily. he is a goal scorer not a provider.

4: We used 5 strikers today.

5: Ingham, I don't think he likes to get his white shirt dirty, kicking woeful.

6: I think Mills looked embaresssd today.

This result has been comming for a long while and I hope it wakes a few people up at the club. Des Lytle is a was of time, what does he do! Since he's come we have gone backwards we can't draw our way through this league. Rant over.

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nudger says...
9:10pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Surely it should have been Wimbledon who have had the tougher schedule:twice to York and once to Exeter(where they were said to have been wretched btw). It is asking a lot of Kerr and Carlisle(and possibly Smith) to put their ageing legs through three games in seven days,let alone four in nine days. So surely Danny had to start in a holding role,with Kearns and another midfielder(take your pick which, but not Blair, alongside).Either McGurk or Doig would have been fresh legs in defence. It is doubtful that Rodman would be matchfit so no surprise for his no-show.But he will be an asset and is a straight replacement for Coulson.
I have no doubt that we can win Monday against a mediocre opposition as our style is better suited to away games, but i hope the cup tie hasnt taken priority.
Also interesting that Luton struggled again today, so no quick fix there either

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duffy says...
9:18pm Sat 10 Nov 12

As others have said quite correctly this has been coming, the home performances in general this season have been poor and we are starting to resort to a longer game in the pure desperation to score more goals. Lets be honest we are more or less playing in league two with a conference team and that was always going to catch up with us. There are not the easy games every now and then as there were in the conference and where Mills could get away with some of his more baffling combinations with players played out of positions and strange substitutions in that league that's not the way now.
If as suggested there is no more money in the kitty to strengthen in January I think it's now a case of batten down the hatches and try and solidify a mid table position. He has to learn from this though because next summers signings need to be far better.

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openallhours says...
9:25pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Firstly, in all the time I've posted on here I've never predicted a City defeat.

Secondly, I appreciate that Mills has had a lot of luck and in turn brought us luck and now we're a league team again.

Thirdly - Lyttle, Challinor, Rodman (the kind of player nobody would sign)? What's all that about?

Finally, can all of the Happy Clappers, Gary Lovers and Chambers Lovers remind me of Gary's track record as a league manager.

Look forward to your response;

Yours sincerely,
A loyal and paying York fan.

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OLD - HEAD says...
9:37pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Having been at the game I didnt hear Radio York. So I have just listened to Gary Mills after match interview on the BBC web-site. I thought that he came over as arrogant and self centered when speaking to Barry Parker. Barry has his limits, but he was only raising the points that a lot of fans were thinking. We will always be grateful for York Citys achievements under the Managership of Gary Mills. But Gary Mills did himself no favours at all with his greater than thou attitude. For everyones sake I hope that todays sorry events are put right on Monday.

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YO1 says...
9:45pm Sat 10 Nov 12

openallhours wrote:
Firstly, in all the time I've posted on here I've never predicted a City defeat.

Secondly, I appreciate that Mills has had a lot of luck and in turn brought us luck and now we're a league team again.

Thirdly - Lyttle, Challinor, Rodman (the kind of player nobody would sign)? What's all that about?

Finally, can all of the Happy Clappers, Gary Lovers and Chambers Lovers remind me of Gary's track record as a league manager.

Look forward to your response;

Yours sincerely,
A loyal and paying York fan.

Here we go again. I'm a lover of York City and Ashley Chambers is a York City player.

I was disgusted and embarrassed when more than a handful of fans in the main stand cheered when he was substituted. One idiot shouted "rubbish" as he was about to sit in the dug out. Chris Doig gave Ashley the biggest, logest hug in football in support.

I don't think Gary Mills was having a go at genuine York fans, just the thick ones.

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redwhiteblue says...
10:05pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Poor performance today - we must now concentrate on 'putting it right' - move on to the next game - it may be against Wimbledon but we start with a clean sheet - they will be missing 3/4 players from todays line up (I must say their debutants were a class above our debutant) To name a man of the match must have been very hard, but I agree with Kearns. I know Walker has his knockers but once he went off we had no body to hold up the ball or attempt to hold the ball up. Both Reed and Johnson were poor - Reed I think managed one wayward shot I can't remember anything else either of them contributed in the 30 minutes they were on the field. Average scores should be 3 - 4 from the Press. Based on what we saw today, it's the worse performance under GM - let move on and put it right on Monday. The comments you read on here, or Twitter can't help the confidence of the players if they happen to read them. Let's get behind the lads - we all have bad days at work - unfortunately unlike you we have 1500+ telling you that you're crap. Don't you think they disappointed - I don't think there was a player out there today who wouldn't step forward and say it was poor.
Someone mentioned 'Conference players' playing in League 2 - surely the same has applied to all sides coming up - most of them have been successful - Crawley, Stevenage etc
Tomorrow is another day - let's look to move forward with an away win on Monday

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Svennis says...
10:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Phil,Leeds - thanks for sparing me having to write all that. 4-4-2 at home, 4-3-3 away. Simples! Or mix it to make opposing managers guess. Gosh, I wonder how York will line up today - would it be 4-3-3 with a tiny guy as the target man? So if I stick a big centreback on him we can nullify their attack (see last three home game for details). Happy birthday Gary. We're all grateful for what you've done, but please don't rest on you're laurels.

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CaptainCreosote says...
10:23pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Omfg I read with a mixture of interest and at times bewilderment the comments made on this site
For the most part there is balance and constructive criticism.
However at times it beggars belief. I like every other "fan" pay my money and that gives me the right to voice an opinion.
YO1 you are right on the money with your remarks about Chambers I was absolutely shocked by the reaction from the mindless minority who cheered his leaving the pitch today. The lad had tried his best in difficult circumstances, those that sarcastically cheered his removal should be ashamed of themselves. We are supposed to be supporters. That in my book means good and bad. Ashley Chambers is a consummate professional. He always tries his utmost and whilst doing so will never lead me to criticise his efforts. We are are confidence team. Barracking from the terraces does not instill confidence
With our present squad we may well be punching above our weight but hey I would sooner be mixing it with the big boys in the league proper than swimming in the mediocrity of he BSP. For god sake all of you commenting on this site get behind your team. Lets hope we are still in here this time next year with the chance to kick on. Hopefully to bigger and better things. Remember Rome wasn't built in a day

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openallhours says...
10:26pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Taxi for Mills & co (and for all the idiots who think he can do no wrong)!

Terrible attitude, ego bigger than the Titanic and as personable as...

By the way, all of the posters that come on here but live away (are overseas, up north, down sarth, in prison etc... yawn yawn... come and watch with us paying fans and you'll see for yourself what you're missing

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CaptainCreosote says...
10:41pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Openallhours. You are without doubt the most poorly considered poster on his site. Should we ask Terry Dolan et al to apply for Gary's job. Get real you muppet. He is the best thing to happen at YCFC for years. Posts like yours will without doubt add to him asking himself " why bother ....."

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openallhours says...
10:47pm Sat 10 Nov 12

YO1 wrote:

openallhours wrote:
Firstly, in all the time I've posted on here I've never predicted a City defeat.

Secondly, I appreciate that Mills has had a lot of luck and in turn brought us luck and now we're a league team again.

Thirdly - Lyttle, Challinor, Rodman (the kind of player nobody would sign)? What's all that about?

Finally, can all of the Happy Clappers, Gary Lovers and Chambers Lovers remind me of Gary's track record as a league manager.

Look forward to your response;

Yours sincerely,
A loyal and paying York fan.
Here we go again. I'm a lover of York City and Ashley Chambers is a York City player.

I was disgusted and embarrassed when more than a handful of fans in the main stand cheered when he was substituted. One idiot shouted "rubbish" as he was about to sit in the dug out. Chris Doig gave Ashley the biggest, logest hug in football in support.

I don't think Gary Mills was having a go at genuine York fans, just the thick ones.

A silly, silly post. And by the way, what does 'logest' mean? Pray tell

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YO1 says...
10:48pm Sat 10 Nov 12

CaptainCreosote wrote:
Omfg I read with a mixture of interest and at times bewilderment the comments made on this site
For the most part there is balance and constructive criticism.
However at times it beggars belief. I like every other "fan" pay my money and that gives me the right to voice an opinion.
YO1 you are right on the money with your remarks about Chambers I was absolutely shocked by the reaction from the mindless minority who cheered his leaving the pitch today. The lad had tried his best in difficult circumstances, those that sarcastically cheered his removal should be ashamed of themselves. We are supposed to be supporters. That in my book means good and bad. Ashley Chambers is a consummate professional. He always tries his utmost and whilst doing so will never lead me to criticise his efforts. We are are confidence team. Barracking from the terraces does not instill confidence
With our present squad we may well be punching above our weight but hey I would sooner be mixing it with the big boys in the league proper than swimming in the mediocrity of he BSP. For god sake all of you commenting on this site get behind your team. Lets hope we are still in here this time next year with the chance to kick on. Hopefully to bigger and better things. Remember Rome wasn't built in a day

Most sensible post on here. All those on here and at the game who single out Ashley for abuse need to ask themselves a few questions.

Quite a number of players have performed below their usual standards recently.Every other player leaves the field to polite applause for their efforts. So why the prejudice against Ashley?

Is it because he's our top scorer?
Is it because he scored at Wembley?
Is it because of his glorious goal at Bradford?
Is it because he's a young talented player,who lacks confidence at times?

... or is it because you're not aware that you're being prejudiced?

[quote][p][bold]CaptainCreosote[/bold] wrote: Omfg I read with a mixture of interest and at times bewilderment the comments made on this site For the most part there is balance and constructive criticism. However at times it beggars belief. I like every other "fan" pay my money and that gives me the right to voice an opinion. YO1 you are right on the money with your remarks about Chambers I was absolutely shocked by the reaction from the mindless minority who cheered his leaving the pitch today. The lad had tried his best in difficult circumstances, those that sarcastically cheered his removal should be ashamed of themselves. We are supposed to be supporters. That in my book means good and bad. Ashley Chambers is a consummate professional. He always tries his utmost and whilst doing so will never lead me to criticise his efforts. We are are confidence team. Barracking from the terraces does not instill confidence With our present squad we may well be punching above our weight but hey I would sooner be mixing it with the big boys in the league proper than swimming in the mediocrity of he BSP. For god sake all of you commenting on this site get behind your team. Lets hope we are still in here this time next year with the chance to kick on. Hopefully to bigger and better things. Remember Rome wasn't built in a day[/p][/quote]Most sensible post on here. All those on here and at the game who single out Ashley for abuse need to ask themselves a few questions. Quite a number of players have performed below their usual standards recently.Every other player leaves the field to polite applause for their efforts. So why the prejudice against Ashley? Is it because he's our top scorer? Is it because he scored at Wembley? Is it because of his glorious goal at Bradford? Is it because he's a young talented player,who lacks confidence at times? ... or is it because you're not aware that you're being prejudiced? YO1

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YO1 says...
10:53pm Sat 10 Nov 12

openallhours wrote:

YO1 wrote:

openallhours wrote:
Firstly, in all the time I've posted on here I've never predicted a City defeat.

Secondly, I appreciate that Mills has had a lot of luck and in turn brought us luck and now we're a league team again.

Thirdly - Lyttle, Challinor, Rodman (the kind of player nobody would sign)? What's all that about?

Finally, can all of the Happy Clappers, Gary Lovers and Chambers Lovers remind me of Gary's track record as a league manager.

Look forward to your response;

Yours sincerely,
A loyal and paying York fan.
Here we go again. I'm a lover of York City and Ashley Chambers is a York City player.

I was disgusted and embarrassed when more than a handful of fans in the main stand cheered when he was substituted. One idiot shouted "rubbish" as he was about to sit in the dug out. Chris Doig gave Ashley the biggest, logest hug in football in support.

I don't think Gary Mills was having a go at genuine York fans, just the thick ones.
A silly, silly post. And by the way, what does 'logest' mean? Pray tell

Longest... Sent from my iPhone. You really couldn't work it out?

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openallhours says...
10:59pm Sat 10 Nov 12

CaptainCreosote wrote:
Openallhours. You are without doubt the most poorly considered poster on his site. Should we ask Terry Dolan et al to apply for Gary's job. Get real you muppet. He is the best thing to happen at YCFC for years. Posts like yours will without doubt add to him asking himself " why bother ....."

Poorly considered!

We were a stable league team under Dolan (then Brass came in etc...) But I don't need to tell you this as you're obviously a very capable YCFC historian.

By the way, it's not polite to address other posters as muppet.

Come back when you've learnt some manners

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CaptainCreosote says...
11:00pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Why was it a silly post ?
Pray tell

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Killieboy says...
11:03pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Remember we've been a NON LEAGUE team for 8 years and mr mills is working with a limited budget. Look at the mess Rotherham are in after spending a fortune. Ok their manager s a tool and I'd never swap Gary mills for him. Would you? The midfield needs strengthening and a solid goalscorer is required but we are not far away. At least we're not losing to canvey island et al anymore. Keep believing.

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openallhours says...
11:11pm Sat 10 Nov 12

YO1 wrote:

CaptainCreosote wrote:
Omfg I read with a mixture of interest and at times bewilderment the comments made on this site
For the most part there is balance and constructive criticism.
However at times it beggars belief. I like every other "fan" pay my money and that gives me the right to voice an opinion.
YO1 you are right on the money with your remarks about Chambers I was absolutely shocked by the reaction from the mindless minority who cheered his leaving the pitch today. The lad had tried his best in difficult circumstances, those that sarcastically cheered his removal should be ashamed of themselves. We are supposed to be supporters. That in my book means good and bad. Ashley Chambers is a consummate professional. He always tries his utmost and whilst doing so will never lead me to criticise his efforts. We are are confidence team. Barracking from the terraces does not instill confidence
With our present squad we may well be punching above our weight but hey I would sooner be mixing it with the big boys in the league proper than swimming in the mediocrity of he BSP. For god sake all of you commenting on this site get behind your team. Lets hope we are still in here this time next year with the chance to kick on. Hopefully to bigger and better things. Remember Rome wasn't built in a day
Most sensible post on here. All those on here and at the game who single out Ashley for abuse need to ask themselves a few questions.

Quite a number of players have performed below their usual standards recently.Every other player leaves the field to polite applause for their efforts. So why the prejudice against Ashley?

Is it because he's our top scorer?
Is it because he scored at Wembley?
Is it because of his glorious goal at Bradford?
Is it because he's a young talented player,who lacks confidence at times?

... or is it because you're not aware that you're being prejudiced?

Ah yes, that glorious Bradford goal and all of the other things that you mention.

Remind me, what's he done in the last 3 home games... uckf all (sent from a device not similar to yours)

[quote][p][bold]YO1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainCreosote[/bold] wrote: Omfg I read with a mixture of interest and at times bewilderment the comments made on this site For the most part there is balance and constructive criticism. However at times it beggars belief. I like every other "fan" pay my money and that gives me the right to voice an opinion. YO1 you are right on the money with your remarks about Chambers I was absolutely shocked by the reaction from the mindless minority who cheered his leaving the pitch today. The lad had tried his best in difficult circumstances, those that sarcastically cheered his removal should be ashamed of themselves. We are supposed to be supporters. That in my book means good and bad. Ashley Chambers is a consummate professional. He always tries his utmost and whilst doing so will never lead me to criticise his efforts. We are are confidence team. Barracking from the terraces does not instill confidence With our present squad we may well be punching above our weight but hey I would sooner be mixing it with the big boys in the league proper than swimming in the mediocrity of he BSP. For god sake all of you commenting on this site get behind your team. Lets hope we are still in here this time next year with the chance to kick on. Hopefully to bigger and better things. Remember Rome wasn't built in a day[/p][/quote]Most sensible post on here. All those on here and at the game who single out Ashley for abuse need to ask themselves a few questions. Quite a number of players have performed below their usual standards recently.Every other player leaves the field to polite applause for their efforts. So why the prejudice against Ashley? Is it because he's our top scorer? Is it because he scored at Wembley? Is it because of his glorious goal at Bradford? Is it because he's a young talented player,who lacks confidence at times? ... or is it because you're not aware that you're being prejudiced?[/p][/quote]Ah yes, that glorious Bradford goal and all of the other things that you mention. Remind me, what's he done in the last 3 home games... uckf all (sent from a device not similar to yours) openallhours

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CaptainCreosote says...
11:17pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Unstable now ? Dolan win percentage 32% as York manager. Mills win % 47. For now I rest my case. You will garner far more respect on this site if you remember quite simply that we are all York supporters and as such we all want to see them prosper. Sometimes the easiest post is to point out the deficiencies of the team. With limited resources I feel that every single member of the York staff is doing a commendable job. Perhaps if you disagree, you should take your £18 and spend it elsewhere. Sorry if that shows a lack of manners

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alimount says...
11:24pm Sat 10 Nov 12

It better improve on Monday because I quite fancy the short journey to Vale next week. Don't know if I can face watching us be undone by a quality striker!
On another point, I think it's time there was some real competition for Ingham. He's off his game and needs to know he won't play if it continues, not sure he is getting that at the moment.

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twang says...
11:35pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Nobody can deny it was coming, if its not sorted soon another major thrashing is on the cards.
Home form is abysmal. players out of form, out of position, out of the club (on loan) why wer they brought in in the first place, one of the smallest squads in the 2nd division and some of them are else where.
Shings going wrong at this club, the passing game is non existant at home, we have been sussed out, i have supporte this club through thick and thin for over 25 years and im as happy as anyody can be being back in the league, but thats in the past its a results industry and were not getting the results GM will live and die by the decissions he makes but todays attiude on Radio York proves he is under major pressure

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openallhours says...
11:40pm Sat 10 Nov 12

CaptainCreosote wrote:
Unstable now ? Dolan win percentage 32% as York manager. Mills win % 47. For now I rest my case. You will garner far more respect on this site if you remember quite simply that we are all York supporters and as such we all want to see them prosper. Sometimes the easiest post is to point out the deficiencies of the team. With limited resources I feel that every single member of the York staff is doing a commendable job. Perhaps if you disagree, you should take your £18 and spend it elsewhere. Sorry if that shows a lack of manners

Interesting, your ethos (along with the other happy clappers) is lethal to our club. Fewer people paying gate money = less income. Less income = work it out Einstein.

Why don't you go and watch Darlo or Scarboro... now there's a lesson in what happens when the real fans aren't listened to

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GreenshawGrinder says...
12:06am Sun 11 Nov 12

EMBARRASSING. Not much more you can say about this one, but here goes. First half, non event. Second half, second best by a long way.
Poor home form continues, what went wrong today? Just about everything! Midfield, Matty Blair is not a midfielder and never will be, Scott Kerr still not at his best, it will take time. Up front, we still persist with the high ball to Jason Walker, can somebody explain this one! Defence, if you concede three goals at home you get what you deserve, nothing. Monday's game will give us a good chance to bounce back and show what the team are made of.

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Theapplesarecoming says...
12:12am Sun 11 Nov 12

I'm gonna wait and see what happens we have 3 games Wimbledon who have just thrashed us , port vale and Rochdale who are all high up , I think we were tired today with the 3 games in a week and having to work harder than we did in the conference but we won't be recovered with having another game on Monday

I would not be suprised if we lost the next 3 games then picked up with good results after that , I'll still come and watch of course but will be interesting to see iff I'm wrong or right

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jumbojet says...
1:26am Sun 11 Nov 12

Mills should be ashamed of himself, the questions asked after the match on Radio York as I walked away from Bootham Crescent were honest and applicable. What did he say to the team at half time? what did he say to Ingham, just kicking the ball to anybody? You need to remember Mr Mills that we have been promoted before, from 4 to 3 to 2, in old numbers, and we knew when we were good and we knew when we were on our way down again. We know now that we are not good enough and you, as Manager, need to do something. Don't get too big for your boots, better men have tried.

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dazthecat says...
4:17am Sun 11 Nov 12

This thread perfectly sums up the problem with supporting York at the moment. 61 comments, how many were there when we beat Dagenham?

Don't get me wrong, I posted my frustration earlier in the thread, but this thread perfectly sums up the problem with our home form the last year or so. In BC as well as on this website there are too many people very keen to criticise any sort of underperformance, but when we play well do the players get any sort of credit in the form of some sort of encouragement from the stands, do they ****!!!! If I was a professional footballer, the last place in the world I would want to ply my trade is York at the minute, there is a 12th man at BC this season, unfortunately it's for the away team!!

You can level at me what you like, I wholeheartedly agree that the performance from the players today was atrocious, but for gods sake is there any danger of some support from the stands at all this year, instead of creating an atmosphere that I can't bare to watch football in, so I can't imagine what chambers, walker etc feel about playing in

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rogue84 says...
7:48am Sun 11 Nov 12

I agree with many people who say that this was coming. we were definately due one, lets hope that this is where we start our season off again.
i'm always guaranteed to look at the positives, but that really was poor yesterday, no idea what was wrong with them...but with a long trip monday, followed by away games at high-flying Port Vale and improving Rochdale, we must get some fire back, very quickly.

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rogue84 says...
7:50am Sun 11 Nov 12

also...Mills came out afterwards and took full responsibility for the defeat, surely this is exactly what he should have done? how can he be criticised, what else could he have said?!

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YorkCityLuke says...
8:40am Sun 11 Nov 12

We're 13th in the league, 3 points off the play-offs and 10 points off the drop. That is after 17 games. For comparison, big spending local rivals Bradford and Rotherham have only 5 and 2 points more than us respectively - I wonder if they're constantly moaning?

I know the game yesterday was shameful, noone is claiming otherwise. But for our resident Luton fan openallhours to suggest that Mills is doing a bad job would be laughable, if it wasn't so stupid. He's actually coping well at this level, we're just expecting more this season. Yes, he can improve in a number of areas. Yes, if we do start to lose consecutive games we should start to worry (although bear in mind that yesterday represented the end of a 7 game UNBEATEN streak, the best in the league at that point). But no, we should not be making moronic comments about the quality of the manager or the players, when the league standing (and our recent successes) speak for themselves.

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RooBeck says...
8:59am Sun 11 Nov 12

The booing by some supporters at the end of the match was wrong - one very poor performance does not warrant that. Gary Mills(straight after the match when the blood is still boiling), did give Barry Parker a bit of his tongue and perhaps when he listens to himself, he might agree that he was a bit sharp with our veteran Radio York commentator! Our home form is so variable, that it does raise concerns over tactics (where the home team are expected to force the pace), together with selections/positions
. Yesterday, it all went wrong but still think we have a good squad of players that are well able to compete in League 2.GM and his coaching staff now need to identify the mental strengths/commitment of their players, (for instance, are they not happy that J.Smith has left and has this knocked morale a bit?) and get them back on track in that department. I think that there will definately be a reaction to-morrow night and if we can get our passing game going as the Wombles press, we could well pick them off and get ourselves into Round 2. Would consider Dave McGurk to return as a central defender and return Paddy MacLaughlin to midfield and if there are doubts about Scott Kerr's match fitness, then replace him with Danny Parslow. COYR.

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CaptainCreosote says...
9:47am Sun 11 Nov 12

Perhaps rather than perpetuating any further playground bickering we should agree to disagree. For the record I am no "happy clapper" I was as disappointed with yesterday's collective display as any other person on here. I merely take my frustrations and air them away from the teams earshot. Surely you must agree that verbal disapproval during and after matches serves to do no more than undermine the whole teams confidence. Paying our £18 does rightly gives us all the right to have an opinion but that has best to be aired in the correct way. I bet Ash Chambers can hardly wait for the 24th. Shame on those who cheered

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openallhours says...
9:51am Sun 11 Nov 12

Beware all posters who aren't happy with City at the minute - yorkcitypuke is going to accuse you of being Luton fans

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YorkCityLuke says...
10:25am Sun 11 Nov 12

openallhours wrote:
Beware all posters who aren't happy with City at the minute - yorkcitypuke is going to accuse you of being Luton fans

Very mature, congratulations. If you actually read my comment (can you even read?! I sometimes wonder, you do seem to ignore the majority of written facts available to you (e.g. the league table)) I said that no-one was happy with the result or performance yesterday. What makes you an obvious Luton fan (maybe Leeds fan, who knows) is that you have been complaining non stop from day 1. In fact, you're the only person who seems to be enjoying the fact that we were so awful yesterday, because it gives you a golden opportunity to have a go at Mills and Chambers. York City can do without your kind of 'loyal support', maybe you should stop paying your hard earned cash to see a team you obviously hate and do us all a massive favor.

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Keith...lad says...
10:29am Sun 11 Nov 12

Paying £17 week in week out i think supporters have every right to voice there opinon on what they witness on the pitch.GM the interview on radio york with Barry Parker was not on.Home performance have not been right for a few home games now.
In todays games u need more than one option in formation.
Don't think some of the squad players are up to it at this level,that is just football.
Maybe a more experienced assistant manager or coach at league level would help GM and the players to help the progress at this football club.

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redwhiteblue says...
10:31am Sun 11 Nov 12

We lost 3-0 - OK it's not the end of the world - it always seems like it the following day - but comments like 'Taxi for Gary Mills, bring Dolan back, plus the mindless idiots who reacted to Ashley being substituted makes me sick. There are many clubs who would love to have Gary Mills as their manager. I wonder how the Leeds fans feel today 6 - 1 at home - or the Rotherham fans 5 - 0 at Dagenham. As Jimmy Greaves once said 'it's a funny old game'.
Yes we can moan but move on - Monday is another game - the true supporters will be there to cheer on the side - not the moaners. One final note - Luton 0 Dartford 2 - how do they feel?

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garnham says...
10:32am Sun 11 Nov 12

Yes everyone we are now plying in a higher league & it's tough !! Well that's a surprise is it not ?
We all have to step up to the standard set by all our opponents I for one think the whole club is making a very good start to life in the football league.
Pity some will fall into the kerbside & fall over into muddy puddles of their own making.
The secret is to support the lads & the management. Those who explode into a frenzy of anger & abuse should go shopping on match days.
I for one remember the last time we completed in this league.. 11 years ago now ? The home fan support was always behind the team.
Home match day needs to step up the league standard
The club can do without the paying public that think their opinion is the solution & deliver it with a very strong attitude.

I have posted before not many home supporters have played at this level so how come they think they know better ?

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YoRkIe59 says...
10:49am Sun 11 Nov 12

is it just me or does anyone else think open all hours does very well on here for a five year old.oh and by the way mate just because some of us live abroad these days it dosnt bar people from using this forum as it remains one of the fairly few options for keeping in touch with events regarding york city,16,000 miles to come back and watch a game is a little on the expensive side apart from just once in a while,but myself and my son will have the good fortune to see a few games at the end of the season when we are back for a while,but i can garrantee neither of us will be booing any of our players either as a team or individually.

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York Manor says...
10:54am Sun 11 Nov 12

That was the worst game I have seen in years. Were all the players at an all night party on Friday because that what it looked like. No player performed, Ingham was dreadful again, I think most teams are now wise we have a poor keeper. Get Blair out of midfield and can we please stop trying to walk the ball in the net. Its results this season that count, not last seasons achievement, thats gone, if we continue in this manner then its going to be a tough second half of the season. Wehave all said there is something wrong with the formation and all this playing people out of position, it might work if your lucky and Mr Mills your luck justrun out 3 very poor home games.

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openallhours says...
11:49am Sun 11 Nov 12

Ok, I take it all back.

Gary's a god, Chambers is the best footballer I've ever seen, Lyttle is a world class defensive coach, being thumped 3 and 4 nil at home recently is ok, Rodman is an astute loan signing, how dare people question team selection & tactics and all those fans that were upset yesterday (and previous home games) were very very naughty for saying bad things.

There we go, is that a better post for some of you?

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heartbreaker says...
11:51am Sun 11 Nov 12

Don't like it when people say "well look at Luton / Leeds / Rotherham results.. it could be worse", I don't pay to watch them so couldn't give a hoot. Also I'm well aware we are only 3 points off the play offs which makes it even more frustrating. We have a squad with some very good players and in my opinion more than capable of at least reaching the play offs. Mills is right when he says in most games (exclude yesterday) no team has looked better than us. Which is why playing our best players out of position, tactical failures, blatant player favourtism and bizarre loan moves is so annoying. Come on Mills, grateful for what you have done but we have a chance to push on to league 1 this season. My fear is if we don't we will lose our better players this summer then just become an average league 2 team for the next 10 years.

Ps, and happy birthday. You mentioned it once or twice on the radio last night....

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Some old bloke says...
12:17pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Sadly (or not) I couldn't get to yesterday's game but I have seen the reports, the goals on TV and the statistics. I don't think anyone is claiming that it was anything other than appalling.
I've seen most of the home games and a couple of away games and it's pretty clear that City are finding it harder now that they're in with the big boys (is that a surprise?) I don't know if Gary Mills will end up being a successful manager at this level but I know one thing - the players will not perform better when they are slagged off by their own fans as soon as they have an off day.
Constructive criticism is fine but some of the comments on here are pathetic and the reports of City 'fans' mocking their own player when he was substituted just show that football crowds include a complete cross-section of human characters, including the moronic.

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duffy says...
1:22pm Sun 11 Nov 12

dazthecat wrote:
This thread perfectly sums up the problem with supporting York at the moment. 61 comments, how many were there when we beat Dagenham?

Don't get me wrong, I posted my frustration earlier in the thread, but this thread perfectly sums up the problem with our home form the last year or so. In BC as well as on this website there are too many people very keen to criticise any sort of underperformance, but when we play well do the players get any sort of credit in the form of some sort of encouragement from the stands, do they ****!!!! If I was a professional footballer, the last place in the world I would want to ply my trade is York at the minute, there is a 12th man at BC this season, unfortunately it's for the away team!!

You can level at me what you like, I wholeheartedly agree that the performance from the players today was atrocious, but for gods sake is there any danger of some support from the stands at all this year, instead of creating an atmosphere that I can't bare to watch football in, so I can't imagine what chambers, walker etc feel about playing in

After yesterday's performance this thread was always going to have lots of posts, I would say that was one of the worst home performances in years it was that bad. We have not really had a cracking game at home this season to justify a long thread.
What I would say however is that the home support this season has been very poor and ok two wins all season is not going to help that. I still think Mills got it wrong in the summer signing wise and i still don't agree with playing players out of position, but then I did not agree with that last season. However player wise we now need to get behind what we have now.

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OLD - HEAD says...
1:40pm Sun 11 Nov 12

It is very sad when the final whistle goes and the crowd (well the few who stayed behind), start to boo!. But thats football, and the Players and Manager have to accept that. There is one big difference between Division 2 and the Conference, the opposition is much stronger in Division 2. City are really just an average side in this league, the sooner people realise this the better. There has been a lot of talk and hype about us getting promoted again. But that would be much more difficult to achieve than last season. We have some good players at the club, but we dont have the financial clout to attract better players who will improve the squad. City should be quite capable of securing a mid-table position, and most supporters would happily settle for that. We all agree that yesterday was dire, but please be patient. The Football League is where we wanted to be, and it was never going to be easy-was it?.

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duffy says...
1:53pm Sun 11 Nov 12

OLD - HEAD wrote:
It is very sad when the final whistle goes and the crowd (well the few who stayed behind), start to boo!. But thats football, and the Players and Manager have to accept that. There is one big difference between Division 2 and the Conference, the opposition is much stronger in Division 2. City are really just an average side in this league, the sooner people realise this the better. There has been a lot of talk and hype about us getting promoted again. But that would be much more difficult to achieve than last season. We have some good players at the club, but we dont have the financial clout to attract better players who will improve the squad. City should be quite capable of securing a mid-table position, and most supporters would happily settle for that. We all agree that yesterday was dire, but please be patient. The Football League is where we wanted to be, and it was never going to be easy-was it?.

There is also the limitation that's not often mentioned of the club only being able to spend a percentage of turnover on the playing budget under the league ruling, that's always going to give us problems competing with the larger clubs. That's the real bummer this season, the home support has increased which we need to be able to give us that higher turnover which in turn allows us to spend more under the ruling but how long us that going to continue when we can't win at home.

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uhtred says...
3:40pm Sun 11 Nov 12

its not the 4-3-3 system that's the problem its the fact that the lone man, jason, does not hve the height to win the aerial battles agains the better centre backs in league 2. All of what Gary Mills said was true and honest in his interview, it was just that he lost his cool a bit with Barry's last question and could have made his point a bit more tactfully; quite understandable when he must have been as just frustrated and angry with the performance as everyone else and having to respond before he had the luxury of time to compose himself. He honourably took the blame for the performance but I feel the players have to accept the greater portion of the responsibility it was they who were below par and made lementary mistakes to give away the goals..

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Bert brennan says...
4:15pm Sun 11 Nov 12

York City Players must now answer this torrent of criticism in the only way they can. Let us see your desire, skill,determination and professionalism on the pitch tomorrow night at Wimbledon. Let everyone see we have a team who have got BALLS. Good Luck

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cityforthepremier says...
4:52pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Hopefully we can boo Mills enough that we can hound him out like we did with Foyle, then we can go back to having a team that the internet fans deserve, one that loses every week that we can moan about.

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duffy says...
4:58pm Sun 11 Nov 12

cityforthepremier wrote:
Hopefully we can boo Mills enough that we can hound him out like we did with Foyle, then we can go back to having a team that the internet fans deserve, one that loses every week that we can moan about.

What were your opinions on the game, formation, players, tactics ?

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cityforthepremier says...
5:07pm Sun 11 Nov 12

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:
Hopefully we can boo Mills enough that we can hound him out like we did with Foyle, then we can go back to having a team that the internet fans deserve, one that loses every week that we can moan about.
What were your opinions on the game, formation, players, tactics ?

The game was poor because the players didn't perform and let the manager down. However, if they could perform every week they wouldn't be in League 2. In general, the formation, players and tactics are all fine, as has shown with the massive success of recent times. Which is a shame as I want City to be as bad as everyone else so I can pretend to be clever and that I knew better than Gary Mills all along.

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duffy says...
5:52pm Sun 11 Nov 12

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:
Hopefully we can boo Mills enough that we can hound him out like we did with Foyle, then we can go back to having a team that the internet fans deserve, one that loses every week that we can moan about.
What were your opinions on the game, formation, players, tactics ?
The game was poor because the players didn't perform and let the manager down. However, if they could perform every week they wouldn't be in League 2. In general, the formation, players and tactics are all fine, as has shown with the massive success of recent times. Which is a shame as I want City to be as bad as everyone else so I can pretend to be clever and that I knew better than Gary Mills all along.

So the squad, formation, and tactics are just fine in your view.
Interesting.

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cityforthepremier says...
6:43pm Sun 11 Nov 12

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:
Hopefully we can boo Mills enough that we can hound him out like we did with Foyle, then we can go back to having a team that the internet fans deserve, one that loses every week that we can moan about.
What were your opinions on the game, formation, players, tactics ?
The game was poor because the players didn't perform and let the manager down. However, if they could perform every week they wouldn't be in League 2. In general, the formation, players and tactics are all fine, as has shown with the massive success of recent times. Which is a shame as I want City to be as bad as everyone else so I can pretend to be clever and that I knew better than Gary Mills all along.
So the squad, formation, and tactics are just fine in your view.
Interesting.

What was your view of the match?

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duffy says...
7:14pm Sun 11 Nov 12

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:
Hopefully we can boo Mills enough that we can hound him out like we did with Foyle, then we can go back to having a team that the internet fans deserve, one that loses every week that we can moan about.
What were your opinions on the game, formation, players, tactics ?
The game was poor because the players didn't perform and let the manager down. However, if they could perform every week they wouldn't be in League 2. In general, the formation, players and tactics are all fine, as has shown with the massive success of recent times. Which is a shame as I want City to be as bad as everyone else so I can pretend to be clever and that I knew better than Gary Mills all along.
So the squad, formation, and tactics are just fine in your view.
Interesting.
What was your view of the match?

I thought it was the worst home performance in years with only Kearns and to a lesser degree Fyfield looking decent. The midfield is way to lightweight which is annoying given we have allowed the only midfield player with a bit a steel in him to go out on loan. The defence continues to be error prone but then Mills decided not to strengthen it in the summer so his choice.Carlisle continues to look good one minute then display terrible distribution the next. Ingham has gone backwards with regards to getting stuck on his line but i put that down to the general lack of confidence in his centre halves. I thought yet again we were pumping high balls up to Walker when we know he can't compeat in the air with the better standard of centre halves at this level. I don't agree with playing 4-5-1 at home which is what I believe we do play most of the time and not 4-3-3. I thought our new signing looked awful but I give him the benefit of the doubt just now as he is clearly not fit and had the misfortune to be playing with a team of muppets on the day. I thought Mills finished off a miserable day by compleatly cocking up the after match interview when all he had to do was say sorry to the fans for the performance and not come across as arrogant.

[quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cityforthepremier[/bold] wrote: Hopefully we can boo Mills enough that we can hound him out like we did with Foyle, then we can go back to having a team that the internet fans deserve, one that loses every week that we can moan about.[/p][/quote]What were your opinions on the game, formation, players, tactics ?[/p][/quote]The game was poor because the players didn't perform and let the manager down. However, if they could perform every week they wouldn't be in League 2. In general, the formation, players and tactics are all fine, as has shown with the massive success of recent times. Which is a shame as I want City to be as bad as everyone else so I can pretend to be clever and that I knew better than Gary Mills all along.[/p][/quote]So the squad, formation, and tactics are just fine in your view. Interesting.[/p][/quote]What was your view of the match?[/p][/quote]I thought it was the worst home performance in years with only Kearns and to a lesser degree Fyfield looking decent. The midfield is way to lightweight which is annoying given we have allowed the only midfield player with a bit a steel in him to go out on loan. The defence continues to be error prone but then Mills decided not to strengthen it in the summer so his choice.Carlisle continues to look good one minute then display terrible distribution the next. Ingham has gone backwards with regards to getting stuck on his line but i put that down to the general lack of confidence in his centre halves. I thought yet again we were pumping high balls up to Walker when we know he can't compeat in the air with the better standard of centre halves at this level. I don't agree with playing 4-5-1 at home which is what I believe we do play most of the time and not 4-3-3. I thought our new signing looked awful but I give him the benefit of the doubt just now as he is clearly not fit and had the misfortune to be playing with a team of muppets on the day. I thought Mills finished off a miserable day by compleatly cocking up the after match interview when all he had to do was say sorry to the fans for the performance and not come across as arrogant. duffy

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johnbyrneshair says...
7:37pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Nothing went right for city on Saturday. Worst performance I can remember. Too many players below par to be in with a chance. Wimbledon seem to have worked us out - from putting Smith off his game by niggling him to putting pressure on Ingham's kicks. Walker no chance against 2 huge centre halves. To turn this around for Monday is one of Mill's hardest tasks since coming to York. If he succeeds than he truly is a talented manager. He needs a plan B however, as Wimbledon know our plan A better than we do.
Embarrassed by a minorities reaction to Chambers and the booing at the end. How is this supposed to help the players or the team? No true supporter would react this way.

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Sir Alex says...
8:29am Mon 12 Nov 12

1)Need a settled midfield.

2) Millsy needs a word with Ingham - Smith is the captain and he should respect his voice, not give attitude.

3) Need a bigger no. 9

4) Blair is a winger

5) Players are in bottom club Aldershot's reserves for a reason

6) Players should warm up properly like they did last season with the tip tap short game and the cones.

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Wind Mills says...
12:36pm Mon 12 Nov 12

It isnt just 1 bad performance though is it?
Coventry in the JPT, Both Wimbledon games and Northampton to name a few.
This has been coming for a while.
Yes Mills did a a fantastic job last season and we all appreciate that, but that was last season.
Look at his pre season signings, other than Coulson who started well and Kearns, the rest have been mediocre to say the least.
We cant seem to carry out plan A anymore and dont have a plan B. There is only person responsable for this and thats the manager.

While I'm not calling for his head, I think he really needs to show what he can do as people are rapidily begining to forget all the good work he did last season.
He has been found out his season and needs to sort it quickly.
After all it was Mills whio stated we were going to make the playoffs this season, so you cant fault the fans for thinking we are underachieving.

Hopefully onwards and upwards from tonight.

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YoRkIe59 says...
2:30pm Mon 12 Nov 12

in with all the partly understandable differing opinions and points of view,i think a couple of very relevant points in those last few posts.one regarding aldershots reserves,it dosnt have to mean that cos a guy has been playing in Aldershots reserves that he cant do a job for us,but the point is that Aldershot unlike ourselves have a reserves.We all know the financial situation at York but i really think we need to find the funds for a reserve side for all sorts of reasons i think it would be worth the cost.And secondly most people talk of a play of place this season out of hope rather than expectation but in fairness it was mr mills who raised the bar and said thats where he intends for us to be this season.ok nothing wrong with the ambition but you cant have it both ways.

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walwynwasgod says...
2:39pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Yorkie59

Good point. We definitely need a Reserve team. Our squad players need to be playing regularly along with our up and coming Youth team players. Unless our squad players go out on loan i.e. Bullock, J Smith and Platt, they are never gonna get match fit. Reed needs to go out on loan, whether it be the Conference or below to get games, goals and fitness. McGurk needs to be in the team or out on loan (He's not been on the bench for the last 2 games). Potts needs to be playing regularly for someone. I'm not one for naming names, but i would like to know what the figure is for entering a team in a Northern Reserve league. Is it similar to that of a First Team Coach's salary ?

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YoRkIe59 says...
6:13am Tue 13 Nov 12

i seem to vaguely recall a figure of about 20,000 being mentioned for a reserve team when we gave up having one but that was what 8 years ago now so who knows what it would cost now.but i still think the many benefits would be worth it,in addition to getting and keeping our own players fit it would give the manager time to run the rule properly over prospective signings before having to commit himself.if we want to remain a league side i think that is one way we need to start acting like one again.

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