Southend United 0, York City 0 (From York Press)

There was a period in the second half where it sounds like we should have taken all 3 points - but (from the radio commentary) a draw sounds like the right result. I would have taken it before the game anyway.

This sounds like a rare example of our defense outshining our attack, which is encouraging in some ways. Carlisle sounds like he had a great game.

I think Carlisle will turn out to be a very good addition to the squad. Bound to take time to adjust and for me, he gets better each match.

I would certainly have settled for a point before the kick off so a good result. We now need to back it up with more points at home.

can't beleive my forecast did not come up, asian bookie let me down!

uhtred wrote:
can't beleive my forecast did not come up, asian bookie let me down!

Racist

duffy wrote:

uhtred wrote: can't beleive my forecast did not come up, asian bookie let me down!

Racist

bit personal that Duffy! If you knew anything about spot betting you might have got the joke!

,,,,and saw my forecast.

uhtred wrote:

duffy wrote:

uhtred wrote: can't beleive my forecast did not come up, asian bookie let me down!

Racist

bit personal that Duffy! If you knew anything about spot betting you might have got the joke!

I was joking.

A point from any away fixture has to be a good point. We know from experience that a Radio York commentary does not always give a true reflection of play. So I will just wait to read comments from fans who actually went to the game (fantastic away support, once again for City).

at the game today and in my opinion it was a fair result. they very rarely stretched us attacking wise in my opinion apart from the last 10/15 minutes, and we arguably should have scored one or maybe even two in a very dominant spell at the start of the second half. very impressed with kearns, and oyebanjo nearly scored a belter with almost his first touch, but it crashed into the near post sidenetting.

A great week - 3 games and 7 points. However, all the Chambers lovers take note; he's not scored in the last 2 games...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
There was a period in the second half where it sounds like we should have taken all 3 points - but (from the radio commentary) a draw sounds like the right result. I would have taken it before the game anyway.

This sounds like a rare example of our defense outshining our attack, which is encouraging in some ways. Carlisle sounds like he had a great game.

A rare example of our defence outshining our attack ? Have you looked at our recent record ? We have scored 9 goals in our last 10 games including 3 in one game against Dagenham. It's hardly title winning stuff. We are now paying the price of not getting a quality striker in the summer. IF we are to do anything other than survive this season we have to get more attacking options in and soon.

Oh no! Our winger hasn't scored for two games! Come on, for goodness sake... Not a great game today but I think we were comfortably the better football team and probably should have taken one of the Blair/walker chances... Pleased with a point in the end as they seemed to have an awful lot of possession in the last 20 minutes. We seemed to tire and we just could not retain the all. I am a fan of Walker and am not going to slate him but weds need 'something different' as an option to change things when 'Plan A' has run its course (the guy marking him today was about 6ft 5 & 16 stone). I would have brought Reed and Johnson on for Walker and Chambers with 15 mins left to try something else...still, a good point, another excellent away following and given the overall start to the season I cannot believe the negative tone of some of the posters...(I am no happy clapper btw...)

arsene.about.york wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote:
There was a period in the second half where it sounds like we should have taken all 3 points - but (from the radio commentary) a draw sounds like the right result. I would have taken it before the game anyway.

This sounds like a rare example of our defense outshining our attack, which is encouraging in some ways. Carlisle sounds like he had a great game.

A rare example of our defence outshining our attack ? Have you looked at our recent record ? We have scored 9 goals in our last 10 games including 3 in one game against Dagenham. It's hardly title winning stuff. We are now paying the price of not getting a quality striker in the summer. IF we are to do anything other than survive this season we have to get more attacking options in and soon.

If "paying the price" is being 2 points off the play offs at this stage in our first season back in the FL I will gladly take that! Surely you can see we are doing far more than just surviving - I don't think many of us thought we would be winning the title.Some folks are never happy!

Disappointed not to take all three points today - could have scored four. We really should be beating poor sides like Southend; they offered very little threat, other than set pieces and weren't much use at these. Worried that Ingham's kicking and distribution seems to be slipping again, otherwise a good team performanve. It's a sign of how far we've come under GM that an away point disappoints but the opposition today really was there for the taking, if they don't improve I can see them slipping into the BSP. Over 400 of us there today, another excellent turnout. COYR

We just about shaded it today in all honesty. We created the clearer chances, i'd have normally backed Walker to score that header, but they did have some late pressure so we have to be fairly happy with the point.
All credit goes to Gary, Darren and the squad for how the season has gone so far. We're in such a healthy position and the team ethic is still as strong and inspiring as it was last season.
Big FA Cup game ahead and then 2 home league games, so, as a group...lets keep enjoying the season.....please?!

I was at the game... and a point was probably about right at the end. If it was based on the first 60-70mins we should have won it. Some really good football played, good passing at pace, but along with our Arsenal-style kit we seemed to want to walk it into the net in the same way and wasted loads of good chances. A bit alarming, the way we were all over the shop defensively for the last 20mins, and were lucky not to concede. On the bright side that's 7 points in 3 games, including two away games, so that's great. But need to win more 50/50s often, close down more in midfield, and our free kicks and corners are just dire - no pace at all! Still, compared to the Conference, this is heaven, so well done.

Four points from two away games, it's not all bad news. Two points off the play-offs. Pick up more points at home and we will be in with a shout come the end of the season.

sixtyfourfive wrote:

arsene.about.york wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote:
There was a period in the second half where it sounds like we should have taken all 3 points - but (from the radio commentary) a draw sounds like the right result. I would have taken it before the game anyway.

This sounds like a rare example of our defense outshining our attack, which is encouraging in some ways. Carlisle sounds like he had a great game.

A rare example of our defence outshining our attack ? Have you looked at our recent record ? We have scored 9 goals in our last 10 games including 3 in one game against Dagenham. It's hardly title winning stuff. We are now paying the price of not getting a quality striker in the summer. IF we are to do anything other than survive this season we have to get more attacking options in and soon.

If "paying the price" is being 2 points off the play offs at this stage in our first season back in the FL I will gladly take that! Surely you can see we are doing far more than just surviving - I don't think many of us thought we would be winning the title.Some folks are never happy!

Not being negative but it is true we are paying the price of not getting another striker. GM himself said we need someone in after the Coulson injury on top of many times trying for an alternative in the summer. I am very happy with our position but that does not mean I give up on the improvements made so far and say we can't get better.

is the loan market still open? if there's the chance of bringing somebody in as useful as Kearns....but a striker...then Gary may well yet take it.

circuitous route dorset wrote:

sixtyfourfive wrote:

arsene.about.york wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote:
There was a period in the second half where it sounds like we should have taken all 3 points - but (from the radio commentary) a draw sounds like the right result. I would have taken it before the game anyway.

This sounds like a rare example of our defense outshining our attack, which is encouraging in some ways. Carlisle sounds like he had a great game.

A rare example of our defence outshining our attack ? Have you looked at our recent record ? We have scored 9 goals in our last 10 games including 3 in one game against Dagenham. It's hardly title winning stuff. We are now paying the price of not getting a quality striker in the summer. IF we are to do anything other than survive this season we have to get more attacking options in and soon.

If "paying the price" is being 2 points off the play offs at this stage in our first season back in the FL I will gladly take that! Surely you can see we are doing far more than just surviving - I don't think many of us thought we would be winning the title.Some folks are never happy!

Not being negative but it is true we are paying the price of not getting another striker. GM himself said we need someone in after the Coulson injury on top of many times trying for an alternative in the summer. I am very happy with our position but that does not mean I give up on the improvements made so far and say we can't get better.

He may try and bring in someone permanently in January but as he found in the summer when he tried to sign Shaw and Connell we just don't have the pull or budget that some other clubs do. Whoever he brings in has to be better than what we already have and these strikers are always going to be in demand from other clubs.

Excellent return from two away games.1 defeat in 8 games away from the Crescent.Those results will look even better if we can win next two hme league games against AFC Wimbledon and Northampton.

duffy wrote:

circuitous route dorset wrote:

sixtyfourfive wrote:

arsene.about.york wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote:
There was a period in the second half where it sounds like we should have taken all 3 points - but (from the radio commentary) a draw sounds like the right result. I would have taken it before the game anyway.

This sounds like a rare example of our defense outshining our attack, which is encouraging in some ways. Carlisle sounds like he had a great game.

A rare example of our defence outshining our attack ? Have you looked at our recent record ? We have scored 9 goals in our last 10 games including 3 in one game against Dagenham. It's hardly title winning stuff. We are now paying the price of not getting a quality striker in the summer. IF we are to do anything other than survive this season we have to get more attacking options in and soon.

If "paying the price" is being 2 points off the play offs at this stage in our first season back in the FL I will gladly take that! Surely you can see we are doing far more than just surviving - I don't think many of us thought we would be winning the title.Some folks are never happy!

Not being negative but it is true we are paying the price of not getting another striker. GM himself said we need someone in after the Coulson injury on top of many times trying for an alternative in the summer. I am very happy with our position but that does not mean I give up on the improvements made so far and say we can't get better.

He may try and bring in someone permanently in January but as he found in the summer when he tried to sign Shaw and Connell we just don't have the pull or budget that some other clubs do. Whoever he brings in has to be better than what we already have and these strikers are always going to be in demand from other clubs.

True duffy. But you would have to think that our position now compared to (in the mind of an outsider) " scraped the playoffs, lucky to be in L2" is solid and should attract players who see L1 as a possibility . It is clear that he doesn't rate Reed (for whatever reason I do not know) and took a punt on Dobie. Of course good strikers are in demand, but there is a supply to of ambitious young men not making the first team.

circuitous route dorset wrote:

duffy wrote:

circuitous route dorset wrote:

sixtyfourfive wrote:

arsene.about.york wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote:
There was a period in the second half where it sounds like we should have taken all 3 points - but (from the radio commentary) a draw sounds like the right result. I would have taken it before the game anyway.

This sounds like a rare example of our defense outshining our attack, which is encouraging in some ways. Carlisle sounds like he had a great game.

A rare example of our defence outshining our attack ? Have you looked at our recent record ? We have scored 9 goals in our last 10 games including 3 in one game against Dagenham. It's hardly title winning stuff. We are now paying the price of not getting a quality striker in the summer. IF we are to do anything other than survive this season we have to get more attacking options in and soon.

If "paying the price" is being 2 points off the play offs at this stage in our first season back in the FL I will gladly take that! Surely you can see we are doing far more than just surviving - I don't think many of us thought we would be winning the title.Some folks are never happy!

Not being negative but it is true we are paying the price of not getting another striker. GM himself said we need someone in after the Coulson injury on top of many times trying for an alternative in the summer. I am very happy with our position but that does not mean I give up on the improvements made so far and say we can't get better.

He may try and bring in someone permanently in January but as he found in the summer when he tried to sign Shaw and Connell we just don't have the pull or budget that some other clubs do. Whoever he brings in has to be better than what we already have and these strikers are always going to be in demand from other clubs.

True duffy. But you would have to think that our position now compared to (in the mind of an outsider) " scraped the playoffs, lucky to be in L2" is solid and should attract players who see L1 as a possibility . It is clear that he doesn't rate Reed (for whatever reason I do not know) and took a punt on Dobie. Of course good strikers are in demand, but there is a supply to of ambitious young men not making the first team.

Yes I do think if we are around the play offs come January he may have a bit more pull although I think we are always going to be a club who will struggle to sign the best players out there. Of course it also depends on just how much is left in the budget. I would agree that a young hungry striker is probably the way to go though, I never though Shaw was a good option at league level and by all accounts he is having a pretty poor season and Connell is hardly pulling up any trees at Bradford. Another player like Barnes knocking them in for a big club at reserve level would be nice.

Too many negative comments for my liking. City have only lost 3 games so far this season and the losing opener at Bootham Crescent was down to a deflection and a massive fluke from way out. Only Gillingham have lost fewer games. I know we are struggling to convert chances but this is L2 not the Blue Square. Carlisle has added stability to the defence but Coulson's injury is a real blow even if it means Blair becomes an automatic selection. Paddy's loss of form is a worry. Remember Southend were in the play offs! From my view from the boundary edge this team has the best away support I can recall for many many years and all those who made the trip across the Pennines and down South deserve a special pat on the back!!

Great away point yesterday. According to the football league show we were well deserving of the point and looked the better side. Personally Im delighted with what we have achieved so far this season and we have come on a long way in a relatively short space of time under Gary Mills. I have said it before but its a great time to be a city fan.

Having got off my backside and gone to the match so no need for guesswork from the idiotic radio commentary (130 away fans was it Chris? What a muppet), I thought it was a good performance and I was disappointed we didn't win after Blair's double chance. I thought Southend was a decent enough club although a distinct lack of pubs was a bit of an irritant as was the Tube with several lines being either closed or affected by engineering works.

I could not agree more with 'Ministerred'. Gary Mills is the key to our continuing success and these are exciting times for City supporters. This happens rarely in the life of a club and I can go back to 1945 when I say this.

well ive not had the great pleasure of seeing us back in the league where we belong this season owing to being abroad but some of the comments on here beggar belief,as others have commented we are 2 points off a play off place our first season back.And og my god chambers hasnt scored for two games, somebody on here please remind me,this is meant to be a forum for York city SUPPORTERS isnt it you really wouldnt know it sometimes.The way certian so called fans have it in for particular players,our players mind you chomping at the bit for one of em to have a half way poor game just so they can have a go,pathetic.i wish i was fortunate enough to be in the country to see us,for the record support means getting behind and encouraging YOUR team.

Enjoyable day out in London. Didn't see enough of Southend to pass you much comment although first impressions consolidated my view of how fortunate we are to live in York. Travelling around the country watching City, there are some awful places to live. Accrington was a very sad place.

What makes it worthwhile is watching a City team who really care about the manager, the fans and the club. However, the best thing about travelling to away games is the magical following we take. Great camaraderie, good spirited and continuous singing throughout. Just wish we could continue to support like that at home.

YoRkIe59 wrote:
well ive not had the great pleasure of seeing us back in the league where we belong this season owing to being abroad but some of the comments on here beggar belief,as others have commented we are 2 points off a play off place our first season back.And og my god chambers hasnt scored for two games, somebody on here please remind me,this is meant to be a forum for York city SUPPORTERS isnt it you really wouldnt know it sometimes.The way certian so called fans have it in for particular players,our players mind you chomping at the bit for one of em to have a half way poor game just so they can have a go,pathetic.i wish i was fortunate enough to be in the country to see us,for the record support means getting behind and encouraging YOUR team.

I think you need to relax and take all these comments with a pinch of salt. You can see that these people didn't go to the match and are just repeating their tired old crap. No York fan with any intelligence or credibility takes the Press comments section seriously, you can find the real supporters discussing stuff in other places. The people here are just on a wind up so don't fall for it.

cityforthepremier wrote:

YoRkIe59 wrote:
well ive not had the great pleasure of seeing us back in the league where we belong this season owing to being abroad but some of the comments on here beggar belief,as others have commented we are 2 points off a play off place our first season back.And og my god chambers hasnt scored for two games, somebody on here please remind me,this is meant to be a forum for York city SUPPORTERS isnt it you really wouldnt know it sometimes.The way certian so called fans have it in for particular players,our players mind you chomping at the bit for one of em to have a half way poor game just so they can have a go,pathetic.i wish i was fortunate enough to be in the country to see us,for the record support means getting behind and encouraging YOUR team.

I think you need to relax and take all these comments with a pinch of salt. You can see that these people didn't go to the match and are just repeating their tired old crap. No York fan with any intelligence or credibility takes the Press comments section seriously, you can find the real supporters discussing stuff in other places. The people here are just on a wind up so don't fall for it.

Oh dear 1/10

YoRkIe59 wrote:
well ive not had the great pleasure of seeing us back in the league where we belong this season owing to being abroad but some of the comments on here beggar belief,as others have commented we are 2 points off a play off place our first season back.And og my god chambers hasnt scored for two games, somebody on here please remind me,this is meant to be a forum for York city SUPPORTERS isnt it you really wouldnt know it sometimes.The way certian so called fans have it in for particular players,our players mind you chomping at the bit for one of em to have a half way poor game just so they can have a go,pathetic.i wish i was fortunate enough to be in the country to see us,for the record support means getting behind and encouraging YOUR team.

I know people like to point out anything they see as negative but if you look at the thread as a whole there is actually very little that is negative at all with the vast majority neutral or positive.

I was there ! .....Trust me, the match was much better than the football league show et al says it was.
We could have, possibly should have won it. But no complaints from me ......
City will, come the end of the season be up there (where they belong) with the best.
Ash.....one size bigger boots 1-0 ?
Nice to see Lanre back ......Oh so very close.
There's gonna be a lot of nervous teams in league 2 this season.

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

YoRkIe59 wrote:
well ive not had the great pleasure of seeing us back in the league where we belong this season owing to being abroad but some of the comments on here beggar belief,as others have commented we are 2 points off a play off place our first season back.And og my god chambers hasnt scored for two games, somebody on here please remind me,this is meant to be a forum for York city SUPPORTERS isnt it you really wouldnt know it sometimes.The way certian so called fans have it in for particular players,our players mind you chomping at the bit for one of em to have a half way poor game just so they can have a go,pathetic.i wish i was fortunate enough to be in the country to see us,for the record support means getting behind and encouraging YOUR team.

I think you need to relax and take all these comments with a pinch of salt. You can see that these people didn't go to the match and are just repeating their tired old crap. No York fan with any intelligence or credibility takes the Press comments section seriously, you can find the real supporters discussing stuff in other places. The people here are just on a wind up so don't fall for it.

Oh dear 1/10

Did you go yesterday?

rupertbehr wrote:
I was there ! .....Trust me, the match was much better than the football league show et al says it was.
We could have, possibly should have won it. But no complaints from me ......
City will, come the end of the season be up there (where they belong) with the best.
Ash.....one size bigger boots 1-0 ?
Nice to see Lanre back ......Oh so very close.
There's gonna be a lot of nervous teams in league 2 this season.

Oh, nearly forgot ! ....the city support
MAGNIFICENT !!!

Minsterred and YoRKle59 are talking sense! It's been great since GM arrived and this season's great! Yes, only Gillingham have lost fewer games! Playoffs look a real possibility and we're also playing good football, so cut the negative claptrap about JW, AC, JF, CS or whoever is next in the firing line. Stay positive and enjoy what's great progress!!!! Also tell more of your mates to come and we can drive up the attendances!!

cityforthepremier wrote:

duffy wrote:

cityforthepremier wrote:

YoRkIe59 wrote:
well ive not had the great pleasure of seeing us back in the league where we belong this season owing to being abroad but some of the comments on here beggar belief,as others have commented we are 2 points off a play off place our first season back.And og my god chambers hasnt scored for two games, somebody on here please remind me,this is meant to be a forum for York city SUPPORTERS isnt it you really wouldnt know it sometimes.The way certian so called fans have it in for particular players,our players mind you chomping at the bit for one of em to have a half way poor game just so they can have a go,pathetic.i wish i was fortunate enough to be in the country to see us,for the record support means getting behind and encouraging YOUR team.

I think you need to relax and take all these comments with a pinch of salt. You can see that these people didn't go to the match and are just repeating their tired old crap. No York fan with any intelligence or credibility takes the Press comments section seriously, you can find the real supporters discussing stuff in other places. The people here are just on a wind up so don't fall for it.

Oh dear 1/10

Did you go yesterday?

Have I commented on the game ? I attend just about every home game and comment as such. Lets not pretend its any different on the likes of red and blue shall we when exactly the same criticism has been made. Give yourself a shake mate.

i take your point cityforthepremier if someone was asking me was i at the game yesterday that would be a no,but that was kind of my point in the first place,as many have said its a decent time to be a city fan,if im lucky im hoping to get to see two or three games back end of this season when back in the uk on hol.

For godness sake we are all on the same side aren't we? Some comments are negative some overly positive. My point is that whatever they should be constructive. I said before that we should be happy with our position considering this is a step up but I am not negative if I state my opinion that we are a striker short and that a good position could become better. That is and should be the attitude of a true supporter of any sports team IMHO.

I was at the game with sons aged 15 and 16 and we thought that, comparatively speaking, York were terrible at Southend.
I don't intend to be negative and this is not a comment on the team and the manager in general, nor on the way YC have played all season, but this was not a good match for us. The first half was poor, but there was a promise of a real surge in the second half, which we started well and we did enough in the first 15 mins. to win easily, had those chances we've already read about been put away.
The last 25 minutes (and that is not an insignifficant period) represented, however, the worst display I've seen in the last 3 years; admittedly we live 200 miles from York now and have only seen us play 15 or 20 times in that time. York could not keep the ball at all, let alone play flowing football and Southend gradually took over, as any team would have done had the visitors failed persistently with the second, if not the first pass. Any other side would have buried York on a spell of play like that.
It is because we have felt spoilt when seeing our team for so long now, that a dismal display like this disappoints.
I fully understand that the few days previously had been gruelling, but this had not been anticipated. The brilliant substitutions did not materialize and it felt like there was a realiztion that this was not going to be York's day and best just to hang on, which, in the event, we were very lucky to do.
Every dog has his off day and I suppose that this was another great away point and I have complete confidence that we 'll come back and play fantastically over the next couple of days, but I didn't want to guild the lilly on this occasion and spin the game report like so many others seem to have done on this occasion.

DavidBu wrote:
I was at the game with sons aged 15 and 16 and we thought that, comparatively speaking, York were terrible at Southend.
I don't intend to be negative and this is not a comment on the team and the manager in general, nor on the way YC have played all season, but this was not a good match for us. The first half was poor, but there was a promise of a real surge in the second half, which we started well and we did enough in the first 15 mins. to win easily, had those chances we've already read about been put away.
The last 25 minutes (and that is not an insignifficant period) represented, however, the worst display I've seen in the last 3 years; admittedly we live 200 miles from York now and have only seen us play 15 or 20 times in that time. York could not keep the ball at all, let alone play flowing football and Southend gradually took over, as any team would have done had the visitors failed persistently with the second, if not the first pass. Any other side would have buried York on a spell of play like that.
It is because we have felt spoilt when seeing our team for so long now, that a dismal display like this disappoints.
I fully understand that the few days previously had been gruelling, but this had not been anticipated. The brilliant substitutions did not materialize and it felt like there was a realiztion that this was not going to be York's day and best just to hang on, which, in the event, we were very lucky to do.
Every dog has his off day and I suppose that this was another great away point and I have complete confidence that we 'll come back and play fantastically over the next couple of days, but I didn't want to guild the lilly on this occasion and spin the game report like so many others seem to have done on this occasion.

Fair enough, you have your own opinion on the subject (and I wasn't there so I can't really argue), but you seem to be in the minority with that view of the match. Without presuming too much, I wonder if the match was simply not as 'pretty' as the other games we've played, rather than actually being a poor display. In the end, it's the result that counts and I think the majority of City fans would have taken a draw.

You are right, Luke. Given the way we played, many would have settled for a draw, and the win was there for the taking at the beginning of the second half, but when our boys stopped being able to keep possession for more than a moment or two for much of a quarter of the game, this is not the same as unpretty play. I suppose that my point was simply that I would have expected those who did see the game to own up to these unexpected shortcomings. The whole team seemed way off par, but, fingers crossed, they will bounce back straight away.