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Council apologises in staff salary mix-up

9:50am Thursday 1st May 2008

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By Gavin Aitchison »

COUNCIL chiefs have apologised to hundreds of employees, after they were accidentally given false information about their new salary.

Thousands of council workers have had their wages changed by City of York Council as part of a massive job evaluation and pay review. Many face severe cuts, some by thousands of pounds.

But The Press has now learned that many staff were given the wrong information, and told they were being put on a pay-grade one lower than was actually the case. The council today could not say how many were affected, except that it was "less than a thousand".

In an email to staff, the council's deputy chief executive Simon Wiles said: "I want to apologise to anyone who has been incorrectly notified due to the issues above and assure you that we are doing all we can to send corrected letters out."

A council spokeswoman said today: "The council's project analysts are urgently investigating which individuals are affected and they will be sending revised and corrected letters out within the next week."

She said the mistake was due to two computer systems not working in the same way in some cases.

Meanwhile, a special council helpline took almost 1,000 calls from anxious, concerned and aggrieved employees within two days of staff being informed of the changes. A further 500 emails were received.

Many of those affected have contacted The Press about the changes.

One, who asked not to be named, said he had lost £4,000 from his pay as a result of the changes.

Another said: "I'm not sure how the union ballot will go, but I think the whole issue could end up affecting public services in a less obvious way than a staff walkout."

All councils across the country have had to review their pay structures under the Single Status Agreement 1997.

York's agreement is subject to agreement by union members in a ballot, which is due to be held in late May or early June.

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Peter, york says...
9:26pm Thu 1 May 08

COUNCIL chiefs have apologised to hundreds of employees, after they were accidentally given false information about their new salary.


The words - booze up a brewery organise a coundn't in - come to mind regarding the council

(A), York says...
9:16pm Thu 1 May 08

To all CofYC workers.

The job re-evaluation is an attack on the low-paid and YOUR standard of living.

Regardless of what the mandarins within the authority tells you, cuts to your salary are not inevitable and this can be fought.

Join Unison and VOTE NO!

Join together tomorrow lunchtime (Friday) to voice your anger - meet at 12:00 at the Guildhall for an 'unofficial' rally - This is what our leaders are most afraid of, angry, disgruntled people on the streets screaming for better days. . . . .

alf, York says...
8:03pm Thu 1 May 08

I have worked at CYC for 20 years, tried my best to get on, done as much training as possible, often in my own time and now my wages are being cut to what I earned nearly 10 years ago. It was not as if we are overpaid as the pay for my job in the private sector is far higher. When all the good workers have left as they surely will, CYC will employ agency workers on a lot higher wages than they are willing to pay us.
The ballot is a farce and has been rigged by giving most of the workers a very small increase while taking a lot off 15% of the workers.
If the unions agree to this they ought to hang their heads in shame along with the CYC management for robbing the workers like this.

only human, huntington says...
7:10pm Thu 1 May 08

Both my sons work for the council and stand to lose thousands of pounds in wage cuts whilst the fat cats cream off big handshake increases.
It should be made illegal for any working persons wages to be cut.
Can you imagine the benefits system doing the same to the cant do wont do scroungers feckless and ferrel in society.
With the ongoing financial crisis in the housing sector and the rapid rises in prices of groceries and fuel charges its becoming obvious that in order to give the fat cats their disproportionate rises and bonuses the poor buggers at the bottom of the pay scale areforced to shed thousands of pounds.
The Unions should hang their heads in shame at the defeatest attitude across the board.They have traded loyalty and commitment to their paid up members for compliancy and failure to represent the masses.
Its time the working man gave the old school unions the big fat boot and united as one super force to take on this mass exploitation of the British taxpayer.
Union bosses are,Spineless,gutles
s and have no balls,sounds european.

Gardener, NZ says...
6:36pm Thu 1 May 08

..then remember all this when voting for your councillors and union reps instead of abstaining and letting the same people vote the same cronies back in, as it's all politics and power whether you're socialist or capitalist !

militant, a bunker in York says...
6:11pm Thu 1 May 08

At one of the staff 'roadshows' (hints of a jamboree/group hug get together) the unions were snapping at their members and all but said that anyone who complained about their salary cut was just greedy and selfish and doesn't care about the low-paid women workers and all the work the unions had put in.

No discussion of why the process was by surprise letter - why not figure out sensible fairly paid generic job descriptions where you can and fit them into a costed structure based on need and agreed with staff, management and unions, rather than surprise letters giving massive pay cuts or - in a very few cases, and usually an error - massive pay rises (a big hello to the trainee who's now on the same salary as people who've been there donkeys, but there's no mechanism to reverse the decision/mistake). And for the finale we were told that women's pay has gone up 5.5%, and men's by 4.5%. Lot of inequality addressed there then. Also 30% of those in the lowest grades (£12k - £21.45k)have had their pay cut, whilst only 19% of those in the £21.5 - £50k bracket had theirs reduced.

None of the council cleaners I've talked to are impressed with their rises, in fact they're downright annoyed about their new pitiful overtime rate (1.2) if they get called out on emergency cleans such as the 2000 floods. And yes, I've lost out - £21.5k to £18.5k, which will really help my mortgage application. So, "pay and reward" my a*** - thanks for nothing from a single parent female admin worker. Grrr.

Boroboy66, YO323LE says...
2:53pm Thu 1 May 08

To answer platform 9,under the new agreements there are no new signing of contracts all staff working off the old!and most job descriptions used are out of date the ones i have heard of are over 10yrs old.

(A), York says...
2:44pm Thu 1 May 08

Fight the cuts!
Join Unison and vote NO!

Wildcat actions NOW!

platform 9, york says...
12:50pm Thu 1 May 08

And wait until everyone get their new contracts to sign. 7am to 7pm working time and not just Monday to Friday as they include Saturday and Sunday as well so that means no overtime! Also, people over a certain grade have to give 3 months notice if leaving - who is going to employ someone who cant start for 3 months?

platform 9, york says...
12:46pm Thu 1 May 08

And wait until everyone get their new contracts to sign. 7am to 7pm working time and not just Monday to Friday as they include Saturday and Sunday as well so that means no overtime! Also, people over a certain grade have to give 3 months notice if leaving - who is going to employ someone who cant start for 3 months?

platform 9, york says...
12:40pm Thu 1 May 08

£8,000 and £9,000 are the highest losses I've heard so far! I'd like to know how CYC have got the figure 85% better off? The new paygrades include 2.5% Annual Cost of Living rise - from discussions I've had with colleagues some have come off better by a few pounds BUT!!! If you take the EXISTING paygrade and add 2.5% on to that they see that they have actually lost out by hundreds of pounds (the existing paygrade does not include the 2.5% as it's not been agreed yet!). Very sly way of getting an 85% viepoint! - BTW if any appeals are lodged then their existing pay is frozen until 1st April next year and NO ANNUAL COST OF LIVING IS APPLIED!! So for new paygrades there is a cost of living increase but for existing paygrades there isn't!

disenchanted43, York says...
11:47am Thu 1 May 08

Incompetence? HR? Surely not!

ath, York says...
11:40am Thu 1 May 08

I missed out the Thisisme quaotation, but the message stays the same

ath, York says...
11:38am Thu 1 May 08

Thisisme wrote . I've worked for North Yorkshire and York Councils - actually for the citizens not the Councils - and eventually left the Union because it was totally useless to its members.

ennoch, York says...
11:18am Thu 1 May 08

She said the mistake was due to two computer systems not working in the same way in some cases.

Yeah right, the external wiff of internal incompetence?!

Worse off, York says...
10:50am Thu 1 May 08

Useful bit if spin here from the council!!! We're talking about pence here, not putting back the thousands of pounds that have been taken off staff! Seems like CYC are running scared and are trying to regain some kind of public support. Don't believe a word, management know services will ultimately suffer & are desperately trying, in advance, to put the blame on anything but this ridiculous pay farce.
Less than a thousand??? How about 10!!!

Thisisme, my chair says...
10:02am Thu 1 May 08

makes no difference, we have still been shafted!
The Union have been no help whatsoever.

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