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Doesn't surprise me at all. They drive like maniacs nowadays, and when the Police are out catching speeders they get criticised for going for the 'easy target'. What if a cyclist or pedestrian was there…
Doesn't surprise me at all. They drive like maniacs nowadays, and when the Police are out catching speeders they get criticised for going for the 'easy target'. What if a cyclist or pedestrian was there…
From my experience of driving, which is in excess of 10 years, I notice an alarming degree of carelessness and recklessness on out roads. Speeding is endemic and tailgating even more so. Many drivers like large 4x4's not for off-road driving but to bully and threaten other drivers. Clearly there is going to be accidents on our congested roads with sort of behaviour.
From my experience of driving, which is in excess of 10 years, I notice an alarming degree of carelessness and recklessness on out roads. Speeding is endemic and tailgating even more so. Many drivers like large 4x4's not for off-road driving but to bully and threaten other drivers. Clearly there is going to be accidents on our congested roads with sort of behaviour.
I am not suggesting that we are any worse than other countries, however, it is a known fact that the majority of accidents (in the region of 90%) are caused by human error. This amounts to huge deaths and serious injuries as reported in this article.
Many drivers do not always realise that their actions are dangerous, i.e tailgating, or just do not appreciate that their speed is unsafe for the conditions. A small number, though slowly growing in size, are very arrogant on the roads, I am thinking of 4x4's here, and this is just a recipe for disaster.
I am not suggesting that we are any worse than other countries, however, it is a known fact that the majority of accidents (in the region of 90%) are caused by human error. This amounts to huge deaths and serious injuries as reported in this article.
Many drivers do not always realise that their actions are dangerous, i.e tailgating, or just do not appreciate that their speed is unsafe for the conditions. A small number, though slowly growing in size, are very arrogant on the roads, I am thinking of 4x4's here, and this is just a recipe for disaster.
I fully agree with Paul's comments - as a driver of some 17 years I find that drivers have become more reckless over the years and there will more accidents like this if people don't slow down. I watched the programme last night about the 4x4 drivers and their attitude is have a big car and people move no matter what they are doing or how badly they are driving!
I fully agree with Paul's comments - as a driver of some 17 years I find that drivers have become more reckless over the years and there will more accidents like this if people don't slow down. I watched the programme last night about the 4x4 drivers and their attitude is have a big car and people move no matter what they are doing or how badly they are driving!
I don't think the standard of driving is actually deteriorating. But there are more cars on the roads now hence the likelihood of more accidents occuring.
And nevermind France & Belgium Pardon - try Greece!! Eek!
I don't think the standard of driving is actually deteriorating. But there are more cars on the roads now hence the likelihood of more accidents occuring.
And nevermind France & Belgium Pardon - try Greece!! Eek!
I agree Frankie. Apparently road deaths reached a peak of about 8000 a year in the last 1960s, and have now fallen to around 3000.
It's still horrific, but think of how many more vehicles there are on the roads today.
I agree Frankie. Apparently road deaths reached a peak of about 8000 a year in the last 1960s, and have now fallen to around 3000.
It's still horrific, but think of how many more vehicles there are on the roads today.
I am sick and tired of having to speed up because of drivers getting on my tail when I am driving to the speed limit.
In January I got a speeding fine because I was scared how close to my rear end a car was and sent over the limit.
People just need to slow down!
I am sick and tired of having to speed up because of drivers getting on my tail when I am driving to the speed limit.
In January I got a speeding fine because I was scared how close to my rear end a car was and sent over the limit.
[quote][bold]chris[/bold] wrote:
pauls correct the standard of driving by some is appalling
and ive been driving for 25 years.[/quote] Yes the standard of some people's driving IS appalling but that has always been the case. Not becoming more reckless en masse as Paul suggested.
chris wrote:
pauls correct the standard of driving by some is appalling
and ive been driving for 25 years.
Yes the standard of some people's driving IS appalling but that has always been the case. Not becoming more reckless en masse as Paul suggested.
[quote][bold]Paul[/bold] wrote:
From my experience of driving, which is in excess of 10 years, I notice an alarming degree of carelessness and recklessness on out roads. Speeding is endemic and tailgating even more so. Many drivers like large 4x4's not for off-road driving but to bully and threaten other drivers. Clearly there is going to be accidents on our congested roads with sort of behaviour. [/quote] i have been driving for over 20 years and i can tell you now that cars are made of thinner metal these days so aas to keep the weight down, so it take less speed to cause more damage these days, unless of course your driving a volvo or a tank, but i do agree with you that there are more and more tailgaters on the roads, but then there is a higher volume of traffic on the roads too, but still no excuse
Paul wrote:
From my experience of driving, which is in excess of 10 years, I notice an alarming degree of carelessness and recklessness on out roads. Speeding is endemic and tailgating even more so. Many drivers like large 4x4's not for off-road driving but to bully and threaten other drivers. Clearly there is going to be accidents on our congested roads with sort of behaviour.
i have been driving for over 20 years and i can tell you now that cars are made of thinner metal these days so aas to keep the weight down, so it take less speed to cause more damage these days, unless of course your driving a volvo or a tank, but i do agree with you that there are more and more tailgaters on the roads, but then there is a higher volume of traffic on the roads too, but still no excuse
Posted by: Christina, Pocklington on 9:43am Wed 16 May 07
[bold]EXCUSE ME PLEASE[/bold] but do you all mind what you are saying, the man that was involved in that accident just so happens to be a very close mate of mind and you all don't know what you are f**king talking about. He was not driving like a maniac " paul" you all don't know what you are talking about and i would appreiatse it if you keep you f**king opinions to yourself as you don't know anything about why the crash happened and the people invovled!!!! And paul you are just 5talking a whole load os s**t because you are gabbering on about reckless driving and all sorts, how do you know this crash was caused by maniacs messign about eh? exactly you don't so keep you wasteless opinions 2 yourslef becasue you don't know exactly what happened, thank-you!
EXCUSE ME PLEASE but do you all mind what you are saying, the man that was involved in that accident just so happens to be a very close mate of mind and you all don't know what you are f**king talking about. He was not driving like a maniac " paul" you all don't know what you are talking about and i would appreiatse it if you keep you f**king opinions to yourself as you don't know anything about why the crash happened and the people invovled!!!! And paul you are just 5talking a whole load os s**t because you are gabbering on about reckless driving and all sorts, how do you know this crash was caused by maniacs messign about eh? exactly you don't so keep you wasteless opinions 2 yourslef becasue you don't know exactly what happened, thank-you!
With all due respect Christina, I think as a someone who has managed to avoid ever been involved in any accident, and have always maintained a clean licence for in excess of ten years, despite driving over 25k miles per year on average, I think my opinion does count.
The article states that the accident happened 'in a village', therefore 30MPH would be the limit, I am sorry but I do not accept that this sort of accident involving several fire engines can happen at this sort of speed.
With all due respect Christina, I think as a someone who has managed to avoid ever been involved in any accident, and have always maintained a clean licence for in excess of ten years, despite driving over 25k miles per year on average, I think my opinion does count.
The article states that the accident happened 'in a village', therefore 30MPH would be the limit, I am sorry but I do not accept that this sort of accident involving several fire engines can happen at this sort of speed.
Posted by: Repair Man, Yorkshire on 11:55am Wed 16 May 07
I certainly agree with Paul that speed has been a major factor in this accident, how ever at this point we do not know who is at fault. The impression i am getting from the above comments is that the finger is being pointed at the green car as it has a 'boy racer image'. If the accident is due to speeding over the limit, the culpret should be given a hefty fine, points on their licence and even possibly jail - People really could of been killed. I have been a boy racer myself, and also driven for a living for the last six years and think there are many drving habbit/issues in this country that need resolving ASAP. And that goes for every kind of driver i think.
I certainly agree with Paul that speed has been a major factor in this accident, how ever at this point we do not know who is at fault. The impression i am getting from the above comments is that the finger is being pointed at the green car as it has a 'boy racer image'. If the accident is due to speeding over the limit, the culpret should be given a hefty fine, points on their licence and even possibly jail - People really could of been killed. I have been a boy racer myself, and also driven for a living for the last six years and think there are many drving habbit/issues in this country that need resolving ASAP. And that goes for every kind of driver i think.
Posted by: Repair Man, Yorkshire on 12:14pm Wed 16 May 07
I have just found out that the accident actually took place between villages and was on a national speed limit road. Both cars could legally been doing 60mph with combined accident speed of 120mph resulting in the above carnage. I have been on this road myself and there are no road marking dividing the road in two. The question we should asking, is it a good idea having this sort of speed limit on such narrow, bumpy and hazardous road????
I have just found out that the accident actually took place between villages and was on a national speed limit road. Both cars could legally been doing 60mph with combined accident speed of 120mph resulting in the above carnage. I have been on this road myself and there are no road marking dividing the road in two. The question we should asking, is it a good idea having this sort of speed limit on such narrow, bumpy and hazardous road????
The speed limit is the Maximum permissible speed, NOT a target speed. It is up to the driver to assess road condition/hazards and drive at a safe speed.
The speed limit is the Maximum permissible speed, NOT a target speed. It is up to the driver to assess road condition/hazards and drive at a safe speed.
Posted by: Repair Man, Yorkshire on 12:38pm Wed 16 May 07
Indeed this is true Paul, however even if the cars were only doing 40 mph each it would still be a combined speed of 80 mph which would still create a bad accident, looking at the cars in question these speeds are still quite possible. Could this accident be put down to bad road conditions, ie surface etc as appose to driver error??
Indeed this is true Paul, however even if the cars were only doing 40 mph each it would still be a combined speed of 80 mph which would still create a bad accident, looking at the cars in question these speeds are still quite possible. Could this accident be put down to bad road conditions, ie surface etc as appose to driver error??
The guy in the green car is known for his [bold]excessive[/bold] speed through neighbouring villages of fangfoss, wilberfoss,stamford bridge and pocklington. The police should of addressed this before it becomes a disaster!
The guy in the green car is known for his excessive speed through neighbouring villages of fangfoss, wilberfoss,stamford bridge and pocklington. The police should of addressed this before it becomes a disaster!
Posted by: Repair Man, Yorkshire on 12:59pm Wed 16 May 07
I will be honest i have also seen this car been driven excessively, but i will not suggest he is the one at fault until all the facts have been given. How ever, as i have already said, people should be made an example of. There could of easily been a death in this inccident and the guilty party should pay for their actions if it found the accident is due to driver error. Does any body else agree??
I will be honest i have also seen this car been driven excessively, but i will not suggest he is the one at fault until all the facts have been given. How ever, as i have already said, people should be made an example of. There could of easily been a death in this inccident and the guilty party should pay for their actions if it found the accident is due to driver error. Does any body else agree??
I completely agree, the emergency services have a hard enough job to do without muppets driving recklessly adding to their workload. If driver negligence is the cause he should never be allowed to drive again. It’s about time people realise that driving is a privilege and NOT a right. Abuse that privilege and you should loose your license!
I completely agree, the emergency services have a hard enough job to do without muppets driving recklessly adding to their workload. If driver negligence is the cause he should never be allowed to drive again. It’s about time people realise that driving is a privilege and NOT a right. Abuse that privilege and you should loose your license!
I couldnt agree more!
[bold]IF[/bold] it was caused by reckless driving then an example should be made. everyone involved in this accident is lucky to be alive. Also [bold]IF[/bold] driver error. this puts careful drives insurance policies up again[bold] UNFAIR???!!!![/bold]
I couldnt agree more! IF it was caused by reckless driving then an example should be made. everyone involved in this accident is lucky to be alive. Also IF driver error. this puts careful drives insurance policies up again UNFAIR???!!!!
Posted by: Repair Man, Yorkshire on 1:41pm Wed 16 May 07
I believe the public should be allowed to report irratic drivers to the police with the confidence that something will be done. I am not saying that they can prosicute the drivers due to lack of evidence, but perhaps send out letters/call the owner informing them of the complaint and that they are on a watch list.
I believe the public should be allowed to report irratic drivers to the police with the confidence that something will be done. I am not saying that they can prosicute the drivers due to lack of evidence, but perhaps send out letters/call the owner informing them of the complaint and that they are on a watch list.
Repair Man, I think the issue of poor driving has a lot to do with attitude, and this is down to what is socially acceptable/or not. A letter from the Police will have little if any effect. I agree that people should be allowed to report dangerous driving and take action; however, I think a public naming and shamming would be more effective.
Repair Man, I think the issue of poor driving has a lot to do with attitude, and this is down to what is socially acceptable/or not. A letter from the Police will have little if any effect. I agree that people should be allowed to report dangerous driving and take action; however, I think a public naming and shamming would be more effective.
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