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Student told ‘no cash for A-level’

3:00pm Tuesday 19th August 2008

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A 65-YEAR-OLD student has hit out after being told he cannot take an A-level in York.

Mature student Roger Shenton, of Connaught Way, Huntington, has taken an AS-level in law run by City of York Council at an evening class at Huntington School.

Now he wants to carry on to A-level, but he claims he’s been told the council doesn’t organise A-levels for adults outside secondary education because of cutbacks in Government funding.

Mr Shenton, who paid about £200 to sit his AS examination, claims the move is short-sighted as it will prevent older people in employment, who want to gain A-levels to move up the career ladder, from moving on.

A spokeswoman for City of York Council said it no longer offered any formal A-level classes for mature students because of funding cutbacks, stemming from a change in approach aimed at providing more vocational qualifications that either help people into work or help them progress in their current job.

Mr Shenton, who worked as a supply chain consultant before retirement and now volunteers as a tour guide, said: “I have lived here for 42 years and started doing the AS level to keep my mind ticking over, but many of the people in my AS class were in full-time employment and looking to further their careers.

“If we are no longer doing A-level courses for adults because of the Government withdrawing funding, then it means that anybody who’s left school and has subsequently decided they aren’t sufficiently well qualified to move on in their careers, or to take a career break and move on and go to university, are stuck.

“For me, it means the £200 I have already spent doing the AS is pretty much wasted money, because I can’t go on and do the A-level as I had planned. But for other people, who are still in full-time employment, it means they can’t better themselves by traditional means.”

A City of York Council spokeswoman, said: “The council receives all its funding for adult learning from the Learning and Skills Council.

“The focus nationally on adult learning has changed in recent years and the Learning and Skills Council’s priority is to equip learners with basic skills and vocational qualifications that will be beneficial in a work environment.

“As a result, the council is no longer able to offer A-level courses for adults.”


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King of the Gypsies, York says...
3:05pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Roger is 65 years old for crying out loud. Shouldn't he have got his education in a bit sooner. I think this is a common sense decision. Whats next???? My 80 year old gran taking a bricklaying course????

tonezzzznoddedoff, york says...
3:16pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Why would anyone aged 65 want to be climbing the career ladder anyway, come on, unless youve got to keep working for financial reasons, get out on the golf course or go fishing and give the youngsters the jobs.

EndofTether, York says...
4:01pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Did you two read the whole article?

He's not actually saying he wanted to climb the career ladder! He did it to keep his "mind ticking over" He was suggesting that other people might be hindered in their attempts at bettering themselves.

Hieronymous, York says...
4:07pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Mr Shenton is not seeking to "climb the career ladder". He makes it quite clear that his chief concern is for mature people - still in work - for whom some extra qualifications would still have some promotional relevance!

Jassy, York says...
4:15pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Maybe if people hadn't done these courses in the past just to keep their brain active, the government wouldn't have pulled the funding.

EndofTether, York says...
4:28pm Tue 19 Aug 08

The government are a blinkered set of **** then. People who stay active in this way are less likely to have health problems and therefore not be costing the NHS. So what if an entire bloody class was full of 80 year olds!

the butler, cowichan Bay says...
5:26pm Tue 19 Aug 08

To the govt, he belongs to the over the hill mob,He gets a place on the tip for his efforts and it only cost him two hundred pounds!.

King of the Gypsies, York says...
5:27pm Tue 19 Aug 08

EndofTether wrote:
Did you two read the whole article?He's not actually saying he wanted to climb the career ladder! He did it to keep his "mind ticking over" He was suggesting that other people might be hindered in their attempts at bettering themselves.
Yes I did read the article. I fancy keeping my "mind ticking over". I wonder if the taxpayer fancy paying for me a totally pointless college course. If he wants to keep his brain ticking over, why doesn't he study the subject by getting books out from York library for free, or do some crosswords or something?

evelyn_trent, York says...
5:37pm Tue 19 Aug 08

At the age of 65, most High Court judges are just starting out on their careers. I think young Mr Shenton should get the law changed so that he can do his A-level. Except that, without his A-level in law, he probably can't.

tcs, York says...
7:54pm Tue 19 Aug 08

given his age, he's not exactly gonna be accepted for a high profile job, if indeed he wants a job at all... so i don't understand why he thinks an A-level is all or nothing and an AS-level is worth diddly squat - an AS-level is a more relevant and up-to-date than most other people his age have so its worthless like he says he is...

he says it's wrong for people who are seeking to advance their careers and he's effectively campaigning on their behalf... but if people had such high ambitions they would have achieved at school, would they not? or are they trying to cash in on the supposedly easier qualifications of "these days"?

York1900, York says...
8:15pm Tue 19 Aug 08

York City Council as pulled such courses over they years to fund other things and that go's as far back as 1988 when I got my course funding through Noth Yorkshire as York City council did not fund any one over 30 for such courses

anonyork, York says...
8:53am Wed 20 Aug 08

tcs wrote:
given his age, he's not exactly gonna be accepted for a high profile job, if indeed he wants a job at all... so i don't understand why he thinks an A-level is all or nothing and an AS-level is worth diddly squat - an AS-level is a more relevant and up-to-date than most other people his age have so its worthless like he says he is...he says it's wrong for people who are seeking to advance their careers and he's effectively campaigning on their behalf... but if people had such high ambitions they would have achieved at school, would they not? or are they trying to cash in on the supposedly easier qualifications of "these days"?
Some people didn't have the chance to stay at school for A'Levels, or maybe weren't steered in that direction when they were 16 due to cr*p careers advice (advice to me, "you're a girl, you can either be a secretary or work in a bank" - seriously!). Some people just develop an interest in such things later in life!

I have taken evening classes as an adult to better myself and to gain more qualifications, not to further my career but to enrich my own education. These courses are not free you know, I'm sure they're subsidised but we still have to pay for them. I think it's disgraceful that this man has been allowed to pay £200 for his AS Level to be told now that there isn't going to be an A'Level course!

curlywurly, York says...
1:35pm Wed 20 Aug 08

I only left school 3 years ago with GCSE's and I had NO idea what I wanted to do. I still don't really! I'm happy with my office job for now but I would possibly like to pursue a career in teaching music...and when i'm ready i'll take the course!

All the rage with GCSE's and A levels these days is disgusting! Youngsters feel like they HAVE to find a career or they'll never amount to anything!

This man prooves that you don't HAVE to pursue your chosen career at 16 years old. Anyway, could you imagine a court run by 20 years olds with hardly ANY life experience?! No offence but I think a 65 year old judge would have much more of an impact than a 20 year old as they've seen the world and know exactly how it works.

That's my opinion anyway! Each to their own...

Bemused, York says...
2:35pm Wed 20 Aug 08

Blatant ageism, and not in keeping with New Labour policy in the pack of lies that was their 2005 election manifesto -

"The Labour Party manifesto 2005

The new Labour case
By 2020 there will be more people over the age of 80 than under the
age of five.For a progressive government there can be no compromise of our duty to today’s pensioners. But while we fulfil that duty we must also see old age as a time of independence and opportunity.

New rights, new choices
Many older people want to carry on working in their 50s and 60s.The
welfare state should be there to help them. Older people with their
skills and experience are potentially an enormous resource.That is why we set up the New Deal for the Over-50s, with over 150,000 older people helped back to work.

We also need to put the force of the law on the side of older people
who wish to continue working. Companies will no longer be able to
force people to retire before the age of 65 except where specifically
justified. All employees over the age of 65 will have the right to request of their employer that they be allowed to carry on working. After five years we will review whether there should be any fixed retirement ages...

... We will make the most of the opportunities of an older population by creating a new programme for older people to be mentors and coaches to gifted and talented young people.We will also work with voluntary organisations to help expand grandparent and toddler groups across the country."


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