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10:09am Tuesday 7th February 2012 in Business news
By Mark Stead, Political Reporter
HOTELIERS have attacked the possibility of York getting a “tourist tax” – claiming it will lead to visitors deserting the city for its rivals.
The Fairness Commission, set up by City of York Council last year to give residents their say over the city’s future, has recommended looking at charging every tourist a levy of up to £1 a night during their stay.
Council officers have not ruled out the idea and are now expected to assess how it would affect the city’s tourism sector.
But Lionel Chatard, who chairs the York Hoteliers Association, said hotels would fiercely oppose the suggestion – also dubbed a York Visitor Heritage Contribution – and introducing it would be “a terrible mistake”.
The commission’s interim report will go before the council’s cabinet next week, with its other recommendations including spending less on roads, cutting ward committee budgets, council tax rises of between 3.5 and six per cent, a York Youth Card discount scheme for businesses and extending YoZone bus discounts.
In its report, the independent body said a tourist tax could “raise a significant amount of money each year to help alleviate the pressures of being a world-class tourist destination” and ease the strain on the council’s budgets for supporting tourism.
It also said caps on charges could be set to prevent visitors being put off coming to York, but Mr Chatard, director and general manager of Middlethorpe Hall & Spa, said: “Every hotel in York pays substantial amounts in business rates, and an additional tax for tourists – which is not applied in cities we compete with, such as Edinburgh, Chester and Bath – would be a terrible mistake.
“If York suddenly became £1 a night more expensive to visit, I’d be extremely concerned we would lose a lot of visitors as they may choose to go to other cities or abroad. The economic climate is already challenging for hotels and it would be very bad PR for the city.
“The council needs to be very, very careful about this, and we would oppose it strongly.”
Visit York chief executive Gillian Cruddas said it fully supported the Commission’s aims, but she said: “It is vitally important to protect and nurture York’s important tourism sector, which generates 23,000 jobs in the city.
“Most importantly, York has to be able to compete on a level playing field with other cities across Britain and Europe. Visit York’s tourism strategy focuses on income generation and visitor spend, rather than volume, and visitors already generate £443 million of income for York annually.
“These recommendations by the Commission would need to be very carefully considered in light of this.”
A report by the council’s strategy and development officer, Jane Collingwood, recommended assessing “the full implications” of a tourism tax and possible alternatives, as well as consulting with Visit York and tourism businesses, but said the suggestion raised “conflicting issues”.
“The council would not want to implement a charge or tax which could deter visitors, impose an administrative burden on local businesses and potentially undermine the profitability of this sector of the local economy,” said the report.
“However, the council is prepared to explore all ideas which could help increase income to the city and the council from this sector.”
CITY taxes are nothing new on the Continent. Most hotels are charged with collecting a daily sum for each person staying with them, but nothing like it exists in this country.
So there will be many who fear the worst if York implements the Fairness Commission’s recommendation to charge a flat rate of up to £1 per person, per night’s stay.
Dubbed a York Visitor Heritage Contribution to help alleviate the pressures of being a world-class tourist destination, it would undoubtedly produce some much-needed revenue, but at what cost?
Visitors already generate £443 million of income each year and while an extra £1 may seem a small amount, for groups or individuals staying a number of nights, this might prove one charge too far if it causes room tariffs to rise.
And the timing is not great. Things are tight enough and we should be doing all in our power to help support local businesses. It will be down to the hotels to pay the tax one way or another and that may lead to an even heftier tax bill. Perhaps less of an administration problem for the large chains, but certainly a headache for B&B owners.
Lionel Chatard, chair of York Hoteliers Association, says hotels would fiercely oppose the suggestion, adding it would be a terrible mistake. Others ask whether another way couldn’t be found to raise this money and we agree.
Major destination rivals such as Edinburgh and Bath don’t charge a tourist tax and we have to ask, does this proposal really send out the right message that York is a place to stay?
Comments(38)
Sillybillies
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10:45am Tue 7 Feb 12
smudge1
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10:56am Tue 7 Feb 12
Sillybillies wrote:Yeah right............ I am sure that will be accurately kept with a £1.00 charge per customer !!
The hotel register, I believe that legally hotels should keep one.
ISeeEverything
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11:07am Tue 7 Feb 12
amike
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11:19am Tue 7 Feb 12
Saywhat
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11:26am Tue 7 Feb 12
The Great Buda
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11:26am Tue 7 Feb 12
Mike Warwick
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11:33am Tue 7 Feb 12
JONNYGOODSHOES
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11:41am Tue 7 Feb 12
Chrido81
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12:15pm Tue 7 Feb 12
Mike Warwick wrote:Having lived in York most of my life, and having travelled a fair bit in my time, I can safely say that York isn't a 'great city'. It's a good city with great aspects to it, however, not enough to warrant a tourist tax.
Other great cities have a tourist tax, Rome for example. People still visit in droves. They will still come to York as its a great city to visit. What you have to do is be open about it and explain why and how the money is spent. Providing better facilities that benefit both residents and tourists alike.
roskoboskovic
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1:48pm Tue 7 Feb 12
bloodaxe
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1:50pm Tue 7 Feb 12
Even AndyD
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2:20pm Tue 7 Feb 12
meme
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2:21pm Tue 7 Feb 12
chunks
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2:27pm Tue 7 Feb 12
I despair!!!
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2:43pm Tue 7 Feb 12
Pete the Brickie
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2:50pm Tue 7 Feb 12
LibDem
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2:56pm Tue 7 Feb 12
Fat Harry
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2:58pm Tue 7 Feb 12
lioncub
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3:20pm Tue 7 Feb 12
Von_Dutch
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3:40pm Tue 7 Feb 12
lioncub wrote:Oh do shut up for heavens sake - this news story has nothing to do with cyclists. Stop trolling.
Put a tax on cyclists! Make them pay for the cycle lanes they don't use.
AngryandFrustrated
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4:00pm Tue 7 Feb 12
Pete the Brickie wrote:Pete as ever, an hilarious posting! I must also congratulate Fat Harry because his sarcasm just sums up how ridiculous the hoteliers are at saying this will be the death of tourism. Absolute tosh.
This town gets more like Nottingham Castle every day, the next thing we know James Sherrif of York will re-introduce the window tax. If I were a crusading champion of the poor dressed in green, hiding in a forest with a load of men dressed in tights and eating King Kirsten's deer instead of a Bricklayer, I'd suggest to all hotel owners that they don't charge any more for rooms but instead simply pay the tax from a single pool and re-coup it by charging the council more for their meetings, training days, dinners and partnership functions which despite cuts and austarity measures they are forced to hold in the very venues they seek to tax. At the end of the day this might work better than robbing council officers with swords and longbows which will require lengthty risk assesments and higher insurance premiums.
Big Bad Wolf
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4:01pm Tue 7 Feb 12
R'Marcus
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4:19pm Tue 7 Feb 12
smudge1 wrote:Well, many travelers who have gone to the U.S.A. are fully aware of the "bed tax" as it is tacked on to their bills.
How are the council going to know how many people are staying at the hotels every night ??? Answers in writing please
arg
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4:57pm Tue 7 Feb 12
marvell
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5:07pm Tue 7 Feb 12
gmsgop
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5:19pm Tue 7 Feb 12
meme wrote:As per usual the council 'consultation' exercise is Mis-calibrated- the point would be to consult much more broadly than those who will have to pay the tax- the answer is rather obvious- the point would be to consult way beyond that- the cost of visit York and subsidies to cultural and heritage assets, cleaning up after visitors could all be met in part from these contributions, so leaving the city to improve services to local residents especially those in poverty.... So let's have a proper consultation!!! Well done fairness commission - good to see an independent contribution to city thinking. So does anyone know how much this tax might raise?
A report by the council’s strategy and development officer, Jane Collingwood, recommended assessing “the full implications” of a tourism tax and possible alternatives, as well as consulting with Visit York and tourism businesses, but said the suggestion raised “conflicting issues”.
AND HOW MUCH WOULD THIS COST
WHY NOT GET RID OF J COLLINGWOOD AND HER DEPARTMENT AND PUT THE SAVINGS TOWARDS PROMOTING YORK
yorkandproud
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6:02pm Tue 7 Feb 12
ouseswimmer
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7:46pm Tue 7 Feb 12
Christopher.B
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8:19pm Tue 7 Feb 12
ak7274
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9:02pm Tue 7 Feb 12
piaggio
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10:02pm Tue 7 Feb 12
Magicman!
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12:58am Wed 8 Feb 12
Woody Mellor
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Mike Warwick
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4:55pm Wed 8 Feb 12
diamonds10
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1:11pm Thu 9 Feb 12
AngryandFrustrated wrote:with all due respect to York, Amsterdam and Rome have a **** sight more to offer visitors and is worth paying for.
Pete the Brickie wrote: This town gets more like Nottingham Castle every day, the next thing we know James Sherrif of York will re-introduce the window tax. If I were a crusading champion of the poor dressed in green, hiding in a forest with a load of men dressed in tights and eating King Kirsten's deer instead of a Bricklayer, I'd suggest to all hotel owners that they don't charge any more for rooms but instead simply pay the tax from a single pool and re-coup it by charging the council more for their meetings, training days, dinners and partnership functions which despite cuts and austarity measures they are forced to hold in the very venues they seek to tax. At the end of the day this might work better than robbing council officers with swords and longbows which will require lengthty risk assesments and higher insurance premiums.Pete as ever, an hilarious posting! I must also congratulate Fat Harry because his sarcasm just sums up how ridiculous the hoteliers are at saying this will be the death of tourism. Absolute tosh. Amsterdam charge a 5% city tax on all hotel bookings and I don't recall that city dying a death and as someone who visits there twice a year, I cannot say that the city tax has ever put me off.
none more black
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10:28pm Sun 12 Feb 12
I despair!!! wrote:those "initiatives" never work. just look at the joke that is givebackworks
perhaps if the COYC used their heads a little and offered say a book of vouchers to spend in the city and charged £5 for it and asked restaurants/bars/sho
ps to offer the discounts , they would generate enough money to avoid a £1 tax and everyone would benefit.
York_Landlady
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11:58am Mon 13 Feb 12
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smudge1 says...
10:13am Tue 7 Feb 12