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Cycle Heaven opens branch at York Station

Manager Richard Gregory, front, and Eric Saner at the new Cycle Heaven shop at York Station Manager Richard Gregory, front, and Eric Saner at the new Cycle Heaven shop at York Station

A NEW cycle shop has opened at York Station, as rail operators look to make the site more accessible to cyclists.

York retailer Cycle Heaven is behind the venture, and is offering cycle sales, repairs and hire to the hundreds of cyclists who use the station every day.

Founder and director Andy Shrimpton said the idea was likely to spread nationwide as travel patterns begin to shift away from car dependence to more diverse modes of getting around.

The new shop also sells folding bikes so customers can arrive with bike in hand – by train, car, bus or taxi.

Mr Shrimpton said: “We’re thrilled to be at York Station. It’s been an instructive and somewhat challenging experience as a small independent retailer moving into an environment largely populated by large corporate businesses, but we stuck at it and we think we’ve created a unique and beautiful space in a formerly moribund part of the station.

“In business terms, it’s a great strategic fit, but as I’ve always been a railway enthusiast, as much as a bicycle romantic, there’s an emotional connection there too.

“We’re delighted to be joining the railway community and have been made very welcome.”

Later this month, East Coast will unveil further improvements for cyclists using the station.

New access routes are to be opened up at the north and south ends of the station, making the building more accessible for cyclists.

Tim Hedley-Jones, East Coast’s property and projects director, said: “We are delighted to welcome Cycle Heaven to York station – we’re sure their facilities will be much in demand in York, which has many hundreds of keen cyclists.

“Many travellers use pedal power to reach York station, enjoying the convenience of free and secure cycle parking within the building. The sales, repair and hire service which Cycle Heaven now offers will complement the facilities already in place for cyclists, and the keenly-awaited access improvements which are just around the corner.”

Comments(52)

antitrainspotter says...
9:20am Tue 12 Jul 11

A meeting of the minds, two useless and inpracticable forms of transport in the same place. Actually going nowhere where you want to go! Destined to close within 3 months.

spiritofyork says...
9:20am Tue 12 Jul 11

Oh no, this will not go down well.

polar_action says...
9:31am Tue 12 Jul 11

am impressed that antitrainspotter was able to drag their bum out of the car and all the way to a computer to care ;o) Good luck to the business. I would certainly think about coming into York and hiring bikes with the kids.

cherokee says...
9:37am Tue 12 Jul 11

Will they be selling lights and copies of the Highway Code

Ignatius Lumpopo says...
9:58am Tue 12 Jul 11

"Later this month... new access routes are to be opened up...". These will be the access routes scheduled to open back in April, running three months late. About par for the course for East Coast Trains.

Mr Happy says...
10:18am Tue 12 Jul 11

Great idea and good luck to this shop. As the article says, there are literally hundreds of cycle users at the station each day.

Just ignore the one or two morons above.

yorkshirelad says...
10:21am Tue 12 Jul 11

Without a doubt one of York's best businesses and great to see it at the station. The new place looks really smart too - a real asset to York. The branch is a great idea. I wish it all the best!

Tally115 says...
10:50am Tue 12 Jul 11

I just looked at their website...if you can afford to spend between £700 and £2000 for a bicycle...then good for you...and they dont put a price on their site to hire one...what does that tell you!!!!

themaff says...
11:41am Tue 12 Jul 11

I'm a partner in Cycle Heaven. When I read your comment Tally, I was a bit worried, so I thought I'd better check. I just found the Ridgeback Motion at £249.99, the Rendezvous at £279.99, the Avenida 6 at £289.99 and countless others below £700, simply by clicking on Sort results by: Price low to high. Do you find our website difficult? Apologies for not having hire prices on the site. We're stll bedding in - that's all it tells you Tally! I can confirm that hiring a super-comfy Dutch city bike now costs £15 per day and £10 per half day.

Spider24 says...
12:20pm Tue 12 Jul 11

Fast forward 1 week to the headline in The Press "Roads around York Station to be redesigned to accomodate inexperienced cyclists at a cost of £x'000,000". Hopefully that rather than "Cyclist squashed by bus/car/taxi whilst negotiating the mess of road markings outside the station"

mrcharly says...
12:38pm Tue 12 Jul 11

I'm pleased to see the shop open. 100s of people a day cycle to the station; having somewhere that can sell spares, fix or service your bike while you go to work will be really useful.
The shop looks good and that will help with the impression visitors to York receive when they exit the station.

CHISSY1 says...
12:44pm Tue 12 Jul 11

They did away with the Cafe unsightly,if i was at the station i would rather have a coffee than a bike.So where is the shop?.

invisibleman says...
12:51pm Tue 12 Jul 11

My only experience of this shop was taking a slow puncure to be repaired at thier Bishopthorpe road branch - they blew the tyre up and charged me about £7 for this. It was flat before I got home in Southbank. I hope it does well - NOT

binsysmith says...
12:58pm Tue 12 Jul 11

Although I find the concept of this brilliant,I can't help thinking it isn't going to work. On alighting a train my first thought is a taxi or bus not £249.99 for a bike.just what is the idea?? I'm not running it down, just can't help thinking the strategy is confusing.

hokey cokey says...
1:12pm Tue 12 Jul 11

binsysmith wrote:
Although I find the concept of this brilliant,I can't help thinking it isn't going to work. On alighting a train my first thought is a taxi or bus not £249.99 for a bike.just what is the idea?? I'm not running it down, just can't help thinking the strategy is confusing.
binsy, you obviously do not cycle to the station, because if you did then you would notice the hundreds of bikes shackled up in the racks. So these are all potential customers for new bikes/servicing/ accessories. And then there are the visitors who might prefer to cycle round the city where the bus doesn't go or is very slow, and at £15 for the day you wouldn't get many taxi fares.

It is good to see a local business expanding in austere times. I wish them every success!!

Pete the Brickie says...
1:24pm Tue 12 Jul 11

Good luck with it, anyone brave enough to try a new idea, invest in it and employ people deserves praise and support these days. Now down to business.



CHISSY1, SELBY says...
12:44pm Tue 12 Jul 11

They did away with the Cafe at Selby, when I'm at the station I would rather watch the trains and write down their numbers while having a coffee than riding a bike. So where is the shop?




The new bike shop is at York railway station, Selby railway station is an entirely different place. Trains can however be seen and their numbers noted at either location. You can also ride on a train from one station to the other after paying money for the appropriate ticket of course.

themaff says...
1:28pm Tue 12 Jul 11

There are 3 themes here: 1. a specialist folding bike retail shop, 2. a fully equipped bike service workshop, 3. a cycle hire centre. Folding bikes work brilliantly with trains because you do not need to book ahead, they fit into the luggage spaces and you can take them on buses and in taxis. The workshop and retail area provide everything needed for a city centre 'local bike shop'. The hire centre provides travellers and visitors with total two-wheeled travel independence. @binsysmith, you could have a hire bike at your disposal all day for the cost of 1 or 2 taxi fares.

spaco-opinion says...
2:04pm Tue 12 Jul 11

Its comforting to see on the Cycle Heaven website that cycling is so affordable (like train travel).
If they have to offer finance packages for the prices of some of the new bikes they sell!

pip007 says...
2:25pm Tue 12 Jul 11

Just make sure you see people's return train ticket before renting out a bike. Otherwise it may be the last you see of it. Good luck with the new venture. Great to see such initiative.

CHISSY1 says...
3:45pm Tue 12 Jul 11

Pete the Brickie wrote:
Good luck with it, anyone brave enough to try a new idea, invest in it and employ people deserves praise and support these days. Now down to business.



CHISSY1, SELBY says...
12:44pm Tue 12 Jul 11

They did away with the Cafe at Selby, when I'm at the station I would rather watch the trains and write down their numbers while having a coffee than riding a bike. So where is the shop?




The new bike shop is at York railway station, Selby railway station is an entirely different place. Trains can however be seen and their numbers noted at either location. You can also ride on a train from one station to the other after paying money for the appropriate ticket of course.
Your attempt at being funny has failed yet again.Why do you come out with such rubbish,it does not make sense.

oldgoat says...
3:53pm Tue 12 Jul 11

invisibleman wrote:
My only experience of this shop was taking a slow puncure to be repaired at thier Bishopthorpe road branch - they blew the tyre up and charged me about £7 for this. It was flat before I got home in Southbank. I hope it does well - NOT
and what did they say when you took the bike back to have the repair done again?

Given that it takes maybe 10 minutes to repair a slow puncture at home, £7 seems a lot.

pedalling paul says...
3:57pm Tue 12 Jul 11

Ignatius Lumpopo wrote:
"Later this month... new access routes are to be opened up...". These will be the access routes scheduled to open back in April, running three months late. About par for the course for East Coast Trains.
The station belongs to Notwork Rail but is leased to its principal Train Operator, East Coast.
A pleasure to see this facility opened. Well done Andy & team. I wonder whether we'll ever achieve a double deck multi-story bike park, like the one outside Amsterdan Centraal station.

binsysmith says...
4:51pm Tue 12 Jul 11

hokey cokey wrote:
binsysmith wrote: Although I find the concept of this brilliant,I can't help thinking it isn't going to work. On alighting a train my first thought is a taxi or bus not £249.99 for a bike.just what is the idea?? I'm not running it down, just can't help thinking the strategy is confusing.
binsy, you obviously do not cycle to the station, because if you did then you would notice the hundreds of bikes shackled up in the racks. So these are all potential customers for new bikes/servicing/ accessories. And then there are the visitors who might prefer to cycle round the city where the bus doesn't go or is very slow, and at £15 for the day you wouldn't get many taxi fares. It is good to see a local business expanding in austere times. I wish them every success!!
i think its a super idea as a place to do running repairs for commuters however a cycle showroom seems a bit pointless on the station concourse.i also think £15 a day hire is too much.if you were here for a fortnight you may as well buy one outright!!!

geoff tibletts says...
5:01pm Tue 12 Jul 11

sounds like a great idea.however i for one cant stand cycling near york station it is full of drunk geordies wearing false breasts

binsysmith says...
5:07pm Tue 12 Jul 11

geoff tibletts wrote:
sounds like a great idea.however i for one cant stand cycling near york station it is full of drunk geordies wearing false breasts
if you cant take this serious geoff tibletts,i suggest you put on your false titties and get on your bike!!!

yorkandproud says...
5:42pm Tue 12 Jul 11

CHISSY1 wrote:
They did away with the Cafe unsightly,if i was at the station i would rather have a coffee than a bike.So where is the shop?.
Forum idiot CHISSY1 with yet another pathetic remark. Personally, if I was at the station "i'd rather have an ice cream than a motorbike". That makes about as much sense. Give it up, will you.

dodgydavereturns says...
5:48pm Tue 12 Jul 11

pedalling paul wrote:
Ignatius Lumpopo wrote: "Later this month... new access routes are to be opened up...". These will be the access routes scheduled to open back in April, running three months late. About par for the course for East Coast Trains.
The station belongs to Notwork Rail but is leased to its principal Train Operator, East Coast. A pleasure to see this facility opened. Well done Andy & team. I wonder whether we'll ever achieve a double deck multi-story bike park, like the one outside Amsterdan Centraal station.
I think I would prefer to see other ventures from Amsterdam arrive in York before one of those!!!

again says...
6:03pm Tue 12 Jul 11

Excellent idea. Well done Andy!

Mark-In-Acomb says...
6:11pm Tue 12 Jul 11

dodgydavereturns wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Ignatius Lumpopo wrote: "Later this month... new access routes are to be opened up...". These will be the access routes scheduled to open back in April, running three months late. About par for the course for East Coast Trains.
The station belongs to Notwork Rail but is leased to its principal Train Operator, East Coast. A pleasure to see this facility opened. Well done Andy & team. I wonder whether we'll ever achieve a double deck multi-story bike park, like the one outside Amsterdan Centraal station.
I think I would prefer to see other ventures from Amsterdam arrive in York before one of those!!!
Don't expect any music at the lap dancing club though!

NoMorePlease says...
6:35pm Tue 12 Jul 11

"" I can confirm that hiring a super-comfy Dutch city bike now costs £15 per day and £10 per half day.”"

If a bike is taken as a euphemism, this sounds rather interesting

Arblaster says...
6:53pm Tue 12 Jul 11

Ignore the dissenters; it might not ultimately make much money but linking the best two forms of transport is a message worth spreading.
Sadly, years ago it was oh-so easy to take a bike on the train, and with the oft-times added bonus of sitting in the guard's van with one's machine. The train took me to most places, and my bike reached the parts the train could not.
Nowadays, the railway companies have conspired to make this dual transport idea somewhere between ridiculously expensive and almost impossible.
Spread the gospel, Cycle Heaven! Pedal the truth and ignore those who peddle lies.....

oi oi savaloy says...
7:52pm Tue 12 Jul 11

geoff tibletts wrote:
sounds like a great idea.however i for one cant stand cycling near york station it is full of drunk geordies wearing false breasts
i agree! i wonder how much a puncture kit will cost in cycle heaven? bet its more than a blue stripe 1 from tesco.

i'm a lady you know

oi oi savaloy says...
8:01pm Tue 12 Jul 11

this must be fantastic news for our labour m.p.!

he will be able to buy numerous bikes, bike parts and get some coffee and sandwiches from the numerous food outlets and then charge them to the taxpayer.

yorkshirelad says...
8:53pm Tue 12 Jul 11

The grouchy whingers above probably said the same thing when Cycle Heaven introduced high quality Dutch city bikes (and also Brompton folding bikes) to York years ago... it'll never catch on....
The folk at Cycle Heaven know a thing or two about cycling and York and I predict it will be a booming success.

CHISSY1 says...
11:17pm Tue 12 Jul 11

yorkandproud wrote:
CHISSY1 wrote:
They did away with the Cafe unsightly,if i was at the station i would rather have a coffee than a bike.So where is the shop?.
Forum idiot CHISSY1 with yet another pathetic remark. Personally, if I was at the station "i'd rather have an ice cream than a motorbike". That makes about as much sense. Give it up, will you.
I can always get a from response from people like you,makes my day.Admit it you look forward to my posts,always something for you to think about.

Even AndyD says...
9:41am Wed 13 Jul 11

antitrainspotter wrote:
A meeting of the minds, two useless and inpracticable forms of transport in the same place. Actually going nowhere where you want to go! Destined to close within 3 months.
Utter rubbish. Impracticable is queuing for an hour at rush hour to travel four miles. I've a car and am in Poppleton, if I want to go to the city centre, I bike or take the train. No parking costs, no queues and often quicker.

Even AndyD says...
9:43am Wed 13 Jul 11

hokey cokey wrote:
binsysmith wrote:
Although I find the concept of this brilliant,I can't help thinking it isn't going to work. On alighting a train my first thought is a taxi or bus not £249.99 for a bike.just what is the idea?? I'm not running it down, just can't help thinking the strategy is confusing.
binsy, you obviously do not cycle to the station, because if you did then you would notice the hundreds of bikes shackled up in the racks. So these are all potential customers for new bikes/servicing/ accessories. And then there are the visitors who might prefer to cycle round the city where the bus doesn't go or is very slow, and at £15 for the day you wouldn't get many taxi fares.

It is good to see a local business expanding in austere times. I wish them every success!!
Agreed - was at the station yesterday, there are literally hundreds of bikes parked there. Sometimes its not easy to find a space.

Arblaster says...
10:20am Wed 13 Jul 11

......."two useless and inpracticable forms of transport in the same place. Actually going nowhere where you want to go..." I quote.....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Impracticable?
Both forms of transport have been 'practicable' for 150 years or more. Perhaps you mean 'impractical', although experiment would prove that is also near-to-complete nonsense. And a bike after all, goes to where its rider wants.
I suggest you get on yours and pedal off to the library, where you can consult a dictionary.

pedalling paul says...
11:59am Wed 13 Jul 11

Arblaster wrote:
......."two useless and inpracticable forms of transport in the same place. Actually going nowhere where you want to go..." I quote.....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Impracticable?
Both forms of transport have been 'practicable' for 150 years or more. Perhaps you mean 'impractical', although experiment would prove that is also near-to-complete nonsense. And a bike after all, goes to where its rider wants.
I suggest you get on yours and pedal off to the library, where you can consult a dictionary.
Love it...more please!

spaco-opinion says...
1:37pm Wed 13 Jul 11

اللعنة لي ، حساسة أم ماذا؟

antitrainspotter says...
2:16pm Wed 13 Jul 11

Arblaster/Piddling Paul

I thought I would make the effort to make a case/answer to your pedantic ramblings why train travel is impractical for me, just to show other peoples point of view that you obviously don’t want to know or understand!
The door to door journey from A to B for most real life journeys (excepting central London) is longer/costlier due to having to go to the station in the centre of the city and then get from the station at the other end to the actual journey end as well.

Example 1:

Strensal to Sandsend - car: get in car drive to Sandsend, approx 40 miles and takes 1 hour and 1 gallon of diesel (£6.50) car can hold 5 persons that’s less than £1.50 each.
By train: get into York by car/bus/cycle - 30 mins £3.00 each, get on train and go to Darlington, change trains and get to Whitby approx 2 hours on the train including connection time cost approx £12, then make your own way to sandsend by foot - 45 minutes. Never mind the return journey! Cost £15 each.

Example 2:

Tollerton to Hawes - Car: get in car and drive to Hawes, approx 60 miles takes 1 1/2 hours and uses 1 1/2 gallons of diesel (£10), car takes 5 people so approx £2 each.

By train: get into York by car/cycle/bus - none - 30 mins, get on train and go to Leeds, change trains and get to Garsdale Head approx 3 hours on the train including connection time cost approx £15, then make your own way to Hawes by foot 1 hour as there is no bus. Never mind the return journey! Cost £15 each.
do you want some more examples of how impractical it is?

The above examples do not factor in the timetable foibles and Sunday - less trains etc, so it actually gets worse.

So for people that go to places and do activities when there, using the train/cycling is totally impracticable, only any good in an urban environment and want to stay there.

So until the train system can improve where it actually goes, its prohibitive costs, service improvements etc it will not be a real life alternative for most journeys. Also the journey sat in a carriage with other members of the public is frankly not on, some of them would be taking train numbers - how offensive. Case rests.

eldirt says...
3:01pm Wed 13 Jul 11

Certainly good luck to all involved. We all need to keep a sensible head about us if there will be more cyclists on the roads around York (cyclist included). I am not a cyclist, but I use my car as little as possible and try to work with all road users when I am driving. Fingers crossed it all goes well for them in dodgy times.

Strange to note that the security words I have to enter to post this are true-hate, let’s hope this isn't a theme for the rest of the comments.

And I must say to spaco-opinion - LOL! :)

Old_Man says...
3:06pm Wed 13 Jul 11

I wish this shop had been there the other week when I inadvertently forgot to bring my cycle lock when I went for the train. I had to rush to Argos and buy a crappy one and spent the rest of the day worrying about my bike being stolen from Platform 1. I think this is an excellent venture and will no doubt be a great success despite the childish rantings from the anti-cyclists on this website. Give me trains and bikes anyday instead of dangerous drivers and pollution!

brummiebob says...
7:58pm Wed 13 Jul 11

cherokee wrote:
Will they be selling lights and copies of the Highway Code
And spectacles for drivers? And measuring sticks so they can measure the distance ( a cars width) they should leave when passing a bike?

piaggio says...
10:48pm Wed 13 Jul 11

a double deck multi-story bike park, like the one outside Amsterdam Centraal station.


yep ,noticed this outside centraal station,amazing ,also noticed in the dam .NOBODY wears helmets,not even the kids............only the stupid brits (spot em a mile ).there again the dam is FLAT.ideal for pushbikes.perfect.

dodgydavereturns says...
6:44pm Fri 15 Jul 11

antitrainspotter wrote:
Arblaster/Piddling Paul

I thought I would make the effort to make a case/answer to your pedantic ramblings why train travel is impractical for me, just to show other peoples point of view that you obviously don’t want to know or understand!
The door to door journey from A to B for most real life journeys (excepting central London) is longer/costlier due to having to go to the station in the centre of the city and then get from the station at the other end to the actual journey end as well.

Example 1:

Strensal to Sandsend - car: get in car drive to Sandsend, approx 40 miles and takes 1 hour and 1 gallon of diesel (£6.50) car can hold 5 persons that’s less than £1.50 each.
By train: get into York by car/bus/cycle - 30 mins £3.00 each, get on train and go to Darlington, change trains and get to Whitby approx 2 hours on the train including connection time cost approx £12, then make your own way to sandsend by foot - 45 minutes. Never mind the return journey! Cost £15 each.

Example 2:

Tollerton to Hawes - Car: get in car and drive to Hawes, approx 60 miles takes 1 1/2 hours and uses 1 1/2 gallons of diesel (£10), car takes 5 people so approx £2 each.

By train: get into York by car/cycle/bus - none - 30 mins, get on train and go to Leeds, change trains and get to Garsdale Head approx 3 hours on the train including connection time cost approx £15, then make your own way to Hawes by foot 1 hour as there is no bus. Never mind the return journey! Cost £15 each.
do you want some more examples of how impractical it is?

The above examples do not factor in the timetable foibles and Sunday - less trains etc, so it actually gets worse.

So for people that go to places and do activities when there, using the train/cycling is totally impracticable, only any good in an urban environment and want to stay there.

So until the train system can improve where it actually goes, its prohibitive costs, service improvements etc it will not be a real life alternative for most journeys. Also the journey sat in a carriage with other members of the public is frankly not on, some of them would be taking train numbers - how offensive. Case rests.
Woo Hoo!
Stick that up your saddle sore ar**s boys!
Well said!

greenmonkey says...
10:08pm Fri 15 Jul 11

Response to antitrainspotter: All your calculations ignore your hidden costs of car ownership - insurance, tax depreciation -repairs and servicing - etc and the fact that you may not want to take 5 people in your car for the trip. This 'standing cost' provides a perverse incentive to use your car as much as possible, thereby cutting the 'cost per mile' If however you take the decision to arrange your life so that you can manage without a car and use the car club at £5per hour or a weekend car hire about £40 a few times a year you can save yourself money and help the planet as well as the other road users who wont be queuing behind your motor!

In response to Old Man you can now buy a decent lock from the Bike Hub next to Lendal Bridge as well as this new shop on the station or cheaper still you could have simply left the bike secure at the Bike Hub for £1 per day and saved the cost of your Argos lock!

Arblaster says...
12:14pm Sat 16 Jul 11

Antitrainspotter's pedantic ramblings are as useful as a Maltese Railcard....but joking aside, they are merely his means of pointing out the blindingly obvious; that some journeys are difficult and some are indeed impracticable when undertaken by bike or bike and train in combination. I would add 'the summit of Annapurna' to his list, although it would be no easier by car, even with five people shoe-horned in to reduce the individual cost.
However, anybody sensibly not overburdened by his streak of pessimism and Clarksonesque car-obsessivness would realise that a bike can add a five, ten (or more; how fit are you?) mileage radius to any railway station, and thus make a myriad of journeys perfectly feasible. I accept, however, the cost and confusion of taking one's bike on the train is severely prohibitive. Having to pay extra for a bike-shaped piece of luggage is absurd.
I do drive a car, by the way. I cannot understand why anybody should be prejudiced against any form of transport. Every mode thereof has its place.
For the summit of Annapurna, I suggest stout boots....

arglemcgee says...
10:31pm Sun 17 Jul 11

Okay, I'm going to stray off-topic even further... If anyone does want to go to Hawes by public transport, here's how: Take the train to Northallerton (not to Leeds). Then there are plenty of buses to Hawes from just outside the station. Some go direct. Others require a change in Bedale, which gives you time for a stop in the cafe. It's a beautiful ride and you don't have to concentrate on the road. There's also a campsite walkable from Hawes overlooking the village, where you can base yourself for a nice weekend or longer. That said, it's about as remote as you can get in the Dales in terms of distance from York. Public transport users might choose Pately Bridge via Harrogate instead, for example. You also get discounts throughout the Dales via the Dales Bus Discount scheme. The National Park authority discourages car use in the park, in order to maintain the environmental quality that attracts people there.

Magicman! says...
3:23am Mon 18 Jul 11

cherokee wrote:
Will they be selling lights and copies of the Highway Code
let's hope so, and then we can thrown the highway code at all the motorists who overtake and immediately turn left without indicating, turn on/off at roundabouts without insicating, overtake on mini roundabouts, fail to look at junctions/roundabout
s, overtakes a parked vehicle/bus in narrow street when oncoming vehicle has right of way, parks in cycle lane, overtakes cycle then instantly has to stop right in front of bike due to parked car and oncoming traffic, overtakes too fast and too close, turns right directly across path of oncoming cycle going at 25mph only then to perform illegal u-turn, does any of the above and when cyclist honks loud horn at motorist the motorist honks horn back as if to say "I'm in a car and can do what i like"........ Please try and think through comments and construct them in a proper manner before you apply the same old generic stereotype to cyclists - unless you want to go an join Mike Usherwood's "lets complain about evil cyclists are destroying thsi city" club.

greenmonkey says...
3:53pm Mon 18 Jul 11

Tip for Magicman - an increasing number of cyclists are investing in mini DV camera to fit to bike or helmet in order to capture on film the stupid antics of some drivers. Im planning to use one for my cycle commuting and think it would be great if the press would upload suitable clips from local cyclists to demonstrate to drivers the manoevres you describe, along with some of 'yoofs' riding on pavements and through red lights for balance. I understand there have already been some prosecutions nationally based on video evidence gathered in this way.

Arblaster says...
4:20pm Mon 18 Jul 11

That's a good idea, greenmomkey. And furthermore, in the interests of harmony and balance, I would like to suggest that the petrol-headed anticycling drivers do the same, (I make the point before one of their kind does so here), with a view to recording the aberrations of wayward cyclists who, sadly, do of course exist.
And we could all film the pedestrians who take the street named 'Pavement' too literally and stroll about it as if nothing on wheels is likely to need that particular road-space.
Possibly we might have a little harmony between all road, rail and pavement users, eh?

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