Big Olympics cost for North Yorkshire Police

POLICE chiefs in North Yorkshire could face a £215,000 overtime headache – with the cost of the Olympics being blamed.

North Yorkshire Police has revealed it is currently on course to exceed its budget for additional hours worked by officers in 2012/13, despite having put measures in place to cut down on the bill.

Figures which have gone before North Yorkshire Police Authority show the latest forecasts for the force’s financial performance this year. They estimate overtime costs would reach £2.154 million, with its budget for this area being £1.939 million.

A report said the cost of providing officers to help police the Olympics and the Paralympics this summer, as well as ensuring safety when the Olympic torch relay passed through the region, had contributed to the predicted overspill.

North Yorkshire Police hopes to draw in just over £1 million in “mutual aid”, paid to forces which provide assistance in other parts of the UK, with a claim being made to the Home Office.

The report by the police authority’s business partner, Moira Hopwood, said the amount claimed by the force would depend on the actual hours worked by its officers during the Games, full details of which have yet to be confirmed.

Last year, The Press reported how rigorous overtime rules had been put in place within North Yorkshire Police amid Government funding cuts, with tighter controls on the authorisation of extra hours.

However, the London riots and changes to the force control room subsequently put additional strain on the force’s overtime budget.

The latest financial report for the police authority also said a £181,000 overspend on supplies and services was currently being predicted and the Olympics had played a part in this.

“The forecast includes an estimate of North Yorkshire Police’s share of the regional cost of the Olympic torch relay during June and the indirect or consequential Olympic-related expenditure arising,” the report says.

“In particular, this relates to providing services in York, Harrogate and Scarborough and the purchase of personal-issue long batons and dog police support unit kits.”

The report said the force wanted to ensure North Yorkshire residents “do not suffer detriment” because of the need to provide policing cover for the Games.

Comments(13)

Zetkin says...
9:06am Thu 11 Oct 12

marvellous

ExPatBob says...
9:24am Thu 11 Oct 12

Am I missing something? £2.154 million projected spend, with its budget for this area being £1.939 million. But they're hoping to recoup a million. So shouldn't the projected overtime story be. Police force £800K below budget? Just remember the Plan never survives first contact. Budgets are financial guidelines. Some you win some you loose.

Pete the Brickie says...
11:29am Thu 11 Oct 12

ExPatBob wrote:
Am I missing something? £2.154 million projected spend, with its budget for this area being £1.939 million. But they're hoping to recoup a million. So shouldn't the projected overtime story be. Police force £800K below budget? Just remember the Plan never survives first contact. Budgets are financial guidelines. Some you win some you loose.
Yes you've missed quite a lot, the £1 million Mutual Aid repayment is to help cover the entire cost of assisting other forces for things like riots they have caused by being less than truthful in their statements following a fatal shooting for instance.

The Olympics was quite well advertised nationally and locally,
I'm also pretty sure the levels of police staffing required from each force and the likely costs including overtime were set in stone some years before our force set its 2012/2013 overtime budget so I'm completely baffled as to why they are using the event as an excuse.

Sillybillies says...
1:19pm Thu 11 Oct 12

What was policing the LONDON Olympics to do with the North Yorkshire Police? Why were our officers sent there in the first place?

ExPatBob says...
2:33pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Pete, why am I missing the point. I am sure the extra million will cover the costs. Maybe even buy a few high powered motors, maybe some 5litre vogues. The Discovery just doesn't fit the Bill.

ExPatBob says...
2:37pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Where did it say Pete that the million was for mutual aid from any riots? Lets get something right. Those riots 'last year' happened for one reason and one reason alone. The UK is full of ferrel animals who have no respect for their neighbours, community or authority. They should of come down harder on them. I am sure the million will be for the olympic events. Where a lot of the overtime will of happened.. Just a guess

ExPatBob says...
3:12pm Thu 11 Oct 12

the vogue was maybe a bit off the mark. But something better than what they have now. Something to rival the T5 or Senator

Pete the Brickie says...
4:35pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ExPatBob wrote:
Pete, why am I missing the point. I am sure the extra million will cover the costs. Maybe even buy a few high powered motors, maybe some 5litre vogues. The Discovery just doesn't fit the Bill.


The Press revealed last month how the force’s role in helping to quell the riots was expected to leave it with a £1.3 million bill, and it is now looking to recoup the money from the Government.

However, there is still uncertainty about how much it will be able to reclaim.

During the annual meeting of the North Yorkshire Police Federation, held earlier this month, Chief Constable Grahame Maxwell said he expected to be able to claw back about two-thirds of the bill.



Bob

As you can see above the riots cost our force £1.3 million in wages, overtime, travel and overnight stay allowances, we do not know the figure for the Olympics. The £1 million from the government mural aid fund pays for some of these costs, overtime being one of them. Both your assumption that NYP will be left with a profit to buy additional luxury vehicles and their statement that the riots and Olympics affected their overtime budget are therefore wrong in my opinion.

ExPatBob says...
4:56pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Pete. You're quoting old stories. Grahame Maxwell, correct me if I am wrong is long gone? But you will find this story is focused on the olympics and the overtime resulting from those events, whereas you're just focused on bashing the police

Pete the Brickie says...
7:15pm Thu 11 Oct 12

ExPatBob wrote:
Pete. You're quoting old stories. Grahame Maxwell, correct me if I am wrong is long gone? But you will find this story is focused on the olympics and the overtime resulting from those events, whereas you're just focused on bashing the police
Graham Maxwell retired in May this year, his statement on the cost of the summer 2011 riots was made in November 2011.

I'm not "bashing" the police, merely correcting your series of rather odd statements. A bitt lke what happened at Hillsborough but in reverse.

bob the builder says...
7:47pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Sillybillies wrote:
What was policing the LONDON Olympics to do with the North Yorkshire Police? Why were our officers sent there in the first place?
Nothing - other than a bit of a jolly with extra pay thrown in - very popular gig apparently. Probably below the paygrade of the Met, policing the general public.

ExPatBob says...
7:49pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Pete.. November 2011... A year ago... Hillsborough has nothing to do with this conversation. Ill join you tomorrow afternoon for that lager tops if you like.

Sillybillies says...
10:26am Fri 12 Oct 12

Nothing - other than a bit of a jolly with extra pay thrown in - very popular gig apparently. Probably below the paygrade of the Met, policing the general public.

So not one penny of our council tax money should pay for it. Let it come out of the pockets of those who sent them.

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