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Injured stray horse had to be put down
9:18am Tuesday 9th October 2012 in News
By Mike Laycock, Chief reporter
ANOTHER stray horse has been killed in a road accident in York, as City of York Council works up delayed proposals to tackle the problem of tethered horses.
North Yorkshire Police said a foal was struck and injured by a vehicle near a roundabout at Monks Cross on Sunday evening and had to be put down humanely by a vet.
The incident is the fourth known collision so far this year involving vehicles and horses which have been tethered on verges or nearby land and then escaped and strayed into the road.
The drivers of two vans which hit horses on the A166 between York and Stamford Bridge and on a lane near Holtby both said they could have been killed had they been driving cars.
The Press reported in August that City of York Council was proposing to bid for cash from the Government’s £12 million Traveller Pitch Fund to help pay for an expansion of York travellers’ sites, which would also lead to action to tackle the horse problem.
The authority said then it would be bidding for the next round of funding in September, with the first round of allocation decisions due to be made in October.
Steve Waddington, assistant director for housing and community safety, said yesterday: “It is always distressing to hear of an incident between a horse and car and we are sorry to hear of another.
“It should be remembered that the issue of tethered horses is one that affects many local authorities and we are developing a policy which builds on lessons learned from other councils and tailoring our approach to this city’s needs.”
He said the policy would be presented to members this year and said he hoped the Government money bid for could provide some grazing land.
Independent councillor Mark Warters said the latest incident deepened his concerns about the time it was taking to resolve the issue.
• Were you involved in the latest accident?
Contact Mike Laycock on 01904 567132 or email mike.laycock@thepress.co.uk
Comments(41)
Boadicea
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9:46am Tue 9 Oct 12
Its taking far too long to resolve.
matroom
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9:56am Tue 9 Oct 12
BL2
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10:24am Tue 9 Oct 12
meme
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10:34am Tue 9 Oct 12
The Council have all sorts of people employed in non jobs so put one of them in a real job
Do a deal with a farmer to collect and look after the horses. Then charge the owner a fee to collect them like impounding a car It will soon stop
But York will have workshops to determine the problem consultations to decide what to do, outside consultants to advise on issues and 12 months later if we are lucky at a cost of many thousands of pounds a totally ineffective policy will be introduced and we wil be no further along
Pete the Brickie
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10:45am Tue 9 Oct 12
It's lucky for us the police always have plenty of back up around to stand about near the scene talking into their top pocket for hours, blocking the road and preventing the dead horse walking into anyone else's car/van after these collisions occur.
MrsHoney
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11:00am Tue 9 Oct 12
Matroom, when approached travellers feeding the horses will always say they're not their horses and they don't know whose they are, they're just doing them a favour (yes, a favour to the people that they don't know, cause that's how generous of heart these types are!)
They shouldn't be allowed to keep animals of any kind as they're not fit to look after them. Stuff being PC it's about time the governement did something about them.
Murphy_the_Spangle
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11:12am Tue 9 Oct 12
Brilliant, going to be laughing about that all day!
Sawday2
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11:52am Tue 9 Oct 12
Hands up all those councillors and prospective councillors who would seek to REDUCE the size and number of gipsy sites around York.
AngryandFrustrated
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12:30pm Tue 9 Oct 12
If I, or any other member of the community that can't use the "traveller" badge, were to purchase a horse, without any stables or paddock facilities, and were reported to the RSPCA, the RSPCA would remove the animal and then I would be faced with potential prosecution due to breaching the law that says I must provide suitable living conditions for the animals to live in.
“It should be remembered that the issue of tethered horses is one that affects many local authorities and we are developing a policy which builds on lessons learned from other councils and tailoring our approach to this city’s need"
What a load of ballocks, this man and the other agencies involved are talking! You don't need to liaise with other councils to develop a policy - enforce the bl**dy law that currently exists in respect of animal welfare.
I agree with other posters on this - get the horses rounded up and removed from the roads. Give said travellers 28 days to retrieve their horses - despite the sceptics, these horses are important status symbols withing the travelling community and more will be collected than the doubters believe. Those that are not collected can either be sold on (probably to other members of the community) or humanely destroyed. At least that way, the horses are not at risk of suffering a painful death thru' being hit by traffic and the public do not risk serious injury by hitting a horse.
mrcharly
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1:38pm Tue 9 Oct 12
So I did what any responsible citizen would do; a quick blast with a 12-bore through the main block, then torched the remains.
alfie
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1:59pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Murphy_the_Spangle wrote:Obviously at a loose end then...hope your peas are extra special at dinner tonight!
Pete the Brickie says "...dealing with half a ton of unlit mobile dog food wandering down a main road..."
Brilliant, going to be laughing about that all day!
Boadicea
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2:31pm Tue 9 Oct 12
alfie wrote:Glad you think its funny, I don't. There is no accounting for taste.
Murphy_the_Spangle wrote: Pete the Brickie says "...dealing with half a ton of unlit mobile dog food wandering down a main road..." Brilliant, going to be laughing about that all day!Obviously at a loose end then...hope your peas are extra special at dinner tonight!
I think you are a thickie.
davew17
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3:24pm Tue 9 Oct 12
davew17
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3:30pm Tue 9 Oct 12
davew17
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3:33pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Big Bad Wolf
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3:37pm Tue 9 Oct 12
davew17 wrote:Get off the fence Dave and say what you really mean!!
i could say alot more but need to be careful what i say but theses scumbags realy wind me up
retrorigg
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3:54pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Kevin Turvey
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4:10pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Is it the ‘leadership’? or a general corporate apathy?
I think James Alexander should resign over this!
CHISSY1
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4:35pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Boadicea wrote:"I agree with you there,he also has an obsession with policemen,i think he likes the uniform,bit sad really".
alfie wrote:Glad you think its funny, I don't. There is no accounting for taste.
Murphy_the_Spangle wrote: Pete the Brickie says "...dealing with half a ton of unlit mobile dog food wandering down a main road..." Brilliant, going to be laughing about that all day!Obviously at a loose end then...hope your peas are extra special at dinner tonight!
I think you are a thickie.
lowbeam
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5:55pm Tue 9 Oct 12
I used to work for the bar stewards,and I may come forth with the things i have seen..
Boadicea
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6:52pm Tue 9 Oct 12
retrorigg wrote:I AGREE WITH THIS COMMENT.
im all for getting this sorted.......but are these people that keep hitting horses driving with their eyes closed or without headlights, unless the horse actually runs into them or suddenly runs out at the second your passing them why are they been hit, surely your eyes/headlights will see the horse in good time before hitting it
NoNewsIsGoodNews
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9:13pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Boadicea wrote:Horses are not reflective in any way shape or form, I nearly hit one about 15 years ago on Wigginton Rd between Nestle and the ring road, It was dark old night and I was doing about 60 mph heading back towards York, the horse was stood with its back end on the road and its front legs on the verge, I didn't see it until the last second.
retrorigg wrote:I AGREE WITH THIS COMMENT.
im all for getting this sorted.......but are these people that keep hitting horses driving with their eyes closed or without headlights, unless the horse actually runs into them or suddenly runs out at the second your passing them why are they been hit, surely your eyes/headlights will see the horse in good time before hitting it
Luckily there was nothing coming the other way as I took evasive action.
Pete the Brickie
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9:28pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Boadicea wrote:Obviously it hasn't happened to either of you or you'd know just how dangerous a randomly moving unlit animal is on a dark national speed limit road.
retrorigg wrote:I AGREE WITH THIS COMMENT.
im all for getting this sorted.......but are these people that keep hitting horses driving with their eyes closed or without headlights, unless the horse actually runs into them or suddenly runs out at the second your passing them why are they been hit, surely your eyes/headlights will see the horse in good time before hitting it
bob the builder
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9:44pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Boadicea
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9:49pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Pete the Brickie wrote:I agree it is dangerous which is reason for a (sensible and serious) solution to be found quickly and not something to be made a joke of.
Boadicea wrote:Obviously it hasn't happened to either of you or you'd know just how dangerous a randomly moving unlit animal is on a dark national speed limit road.
retrorigg wrote:I AGREE WITH THIS COMMENT.
im all for getting this sorted.......but are these people that keep hitting horses driving with their eyes closed or without headlights, unless the horse actually runs into them or suddenly runs out at the second your passing them why are they been hit, surely your eyes/headlights will see the horse in good time before hitting it
dodgydavereturns
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10:05pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Pete the Brickie
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10:39pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Boadicea wrote:We both agree then, my first post roughly translated simply says why aren't the authorities doing anyrhing to try and prevent this, it merely uses humour to do so.
Pete the Brickie wrote:I agree it is dangerous which is reason for a (sensible and serious) solution to be found quickly and not something to be made a joke of.
Boadicea wrote:Obviously it hasn't happened to either of you or you'd know just how dangerous a randomly moving unlit animal is on a dark national speed limit road.
retrorigg wrote:I AGREE WITH THIS COMMENT.
im all for getting this sorted.......but are these people that keep hitting horses driving with their eyes closed or without headlights, unless the horse actually runs into them or suddenly runs out at the second your passing them why are they been hit, surely your eyes/headlights will see the horse in good time before hitting it
piaggio1
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10:52pm Tue 9 Oct 12
piaggio1
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10:56pm Tue 9 Oct 12
TerryYork
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12:49am Wed 10 Oct 12
Murphy_the_Spangle wrote:You must me one sad and lonely fool for thinking that's funny. I bet your house is full of Roy Chubby Brown DVDs.
Pete the Brickie says "...dealing with half a ton of unlit mobile dog food wandering down a main road..." Brilliant, going to be laughing about that all day!
Honestly, I can really picture what you look like by that comment, not exactly a ladies man, I'm sure. Bonus points to the education system for spewing you out into society.
As far as Pete the Brickie. Well, his career clearly mirrors the above unfortunate who was too busy sniffing glue than gaining some qualifications.
Result: Two illiterate idiots who think killing horses is fine and subject for a joke. I don't know if to shake my head or hope they accidentally say the same thing in front of me.
Ageing Hippy
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2:17am Wed 10 Oct 12
TerryYork wrote:Another keyboard warrior, why would you want to picture what Murphy looks like? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Gentlemen like yourself who travel "on the other bus" but its a bit unusual to actually admit you think/fantasize what other contributors might look like!! And why so cruel to Pete just because he's a brickie? is it because you prefered the other members of Village People more??
Murphy_the_Spangle wrote:You must me one sad and lonely fool for thinking that's funny. I bet your house is full of Roy Chubby Brown DVDs.
Pete the Brickie says "...dealing with half a ton of unlit mobile dog food wandering down a main road..." Brilliant, going to be laughing about that all day!
Honestly, I can really picture what you look like by that comment, not exactly a ladies man, I'm sure. Bonus points to the education system for spewing you out into society.
As far as Pete the Brickie. Well, his career clearly mirrors the above unfortunate who was too busy sniffing glue than gaining some qualifications.
Result: Two illiterate idiots who think killing horses is fine and subject for a joke. I don't know if to shake my head or hope they accidentally say the same thing in front of me.
CHISSY1
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6:43am Wed 10 Oct 12
TerryYork wrote:"Spot on,they have nothing better to do when they are not pulling legs off spiders".
Murphy_the_Spangle wrote:You must me one sad and lonely fool for thinking that's funny. I bet your house is full of Roy Chubby Brown DVDs.
Pete the Brickie says "...dealing with half a ton of unlit mobile dog food wandering down a main road..." Brilliant, going to be laughing about that all day!
Honestly, I can really picture what you look like by that comment, not exactly a ladies man, I'm sure. Bonus points to the education system for spewing you out into society.
As far as Pete the Brickie. Well, his career clearly mirrors the above unfortunate who was too busy sniffing glue than gaining some qualifications.
Result: Two illiterate idiots who think killing horses is fine and subject for a joke. I don't know if to shake my head or hope they accidentally say the same thing in front of me.
Pete the Brickie
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8:01am Wed 10 Oct 12
TerryYork says...
12:49am Wed 10 Oct 12
Murphy_the_Spangle wrote:
As far as Pete the Brickie. Well, his career clearly mirrors the above unfortunate who was too busy sniffing glue than gaining some qualifications.
Result: Two illiterate idiots who think killing horses is fine and subject for a joke. I don't know if to shake my head or hope they accidentally say the same thing in front of me.”
Just to clarify.
My first post contains sarcasm, ie I clearly want the authorities to deal with the problem, save any further animals from injury/death and prevent the possibility of a person being killed in the future.
I find it incredibly ironic that you choose to criticise me for my perceived lack of respect to a dead animal by my description of the possible use of a deceased horse carcass to manufacture tinned canine cuisine, then continue on to insult me and millions of other construction workers by saying our career choices were influenced by taking recreational drugs and not sitting our exams.
I'm not sure which of us comes across as less well educated or most bigoted?
Boadicea
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8:03am Wed 10 Oct 12
CHISSY1
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8:43am Wed 10 Oct 12
Pete the Brickie wrote:"Trying to wriggle out of it,fail".
TerryYork says...
12:49am Wed 10 Oct 12
Murphy_the_Spangle wrote:
As far as Pete the Brickie. Well, his career clearly mirrors the above unfortunate who was too busy sniffing glue than gaining some qualifications.
Result: Two illiterate idiots who think killing horses is fine and subject for a joke. I don't know if to shake my head or hope they accidentally say the same thing in front of me.”
Just to clarify.
My first post contains sarcasm, ie I clearly want the authorities to deal with the problem, save any further animals from injury/death and prevent the possibility of a person being killed in the future.
I find it incredibly ironic that you choose to criticise me for my perceived lack of respect to a dead animal by my description of the possible use of a deceased horse carcass to manufacture tinned canine cuisine, then continue on to insult me and millions of other construction workers by saying our career choices were influenced by taking recreational drugs and not sitting our exams.
I'm not sure which of us comes across as less well educated or most bigoted?
Boadicea
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8:58am Wed 10 Oct 12
Pete the Brickie
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9:15am Wed 10 Oct 12
Boadicea wrote:No, none of my posts imply any such thing, my description of the horse's possible final destination does not mean I'm in favour of killing them at all, I have in fact spent time trying to get the authorities to save the animals by dealing with the problem and have removed two from main roads and re-tethered them myself in the last few years at no small risk to myself on one occasion.
Pete the Brickie may mean well but he has an unfortunate way of putting it and a weird sense of humour which infuriates animal lovers and implies he is in favour of killing horses as a solution.
A poster called Jeremy Clarkson posted yesterday about killing the animals, I then quoted him as did others mocking his stance, all those posts were later removed.
Sillybillies
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3:25pm Wed 10 Oct 12
piaggio1 says...
10:52pm Tue 9 Oct 12
time,s like this i miss the word from the resident **** lover ......goodoc?? or whatever it go,s under
Yes the absence is interesting, someone calling himself doc or doctor who's elsewhere at the moment .....?
catty69
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4:19pm Wed 10 Oct 12
honestworker
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1:15pm Sun 14 Oct 12
Boadicea wrote:i nearly hit a cow in dunnington as it was stood sideways in the dip just before the bridge. late and night and full headlights on saw it last minute swerved and reported it. even on a straight road if doing 50-60mph or whatever a animal just stood there or wandering out can be very easily hit! the fact of the matter is these animals should NOT be there end of. you wouldnt be allowed to park your car just anywhere without it getting towed away etc etc. so why should these tax dodging tax costing people have special rules??? they get away enough driving round in scabby vans with no working lights, under age people driving them, unsecured loads i could go on. if a council limo hit on and wrote off the 15k car im sure they would do something. id be so happy if a horse from one of these SCUM ruined my prised car with no way or getting ANY money back from them!
retrorigg wrote:I AGREE WITH THIS COMMENT.
im all for getting this sorted.......but are these people that keep hitting horses driving with their eyes closed or without headlights, unless the horse actually runs into them or suddenly runs out at the second your passing them why are they been hit, surely your eyes/headlights will see the horse in good time before hitting it
matroom says...
9:41am Tue 9 Oct 12
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!