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York to lose postmark
9:20am Monday 8th October 2012 in News
By Mike Laycock, Chief reporter
York to lose postmark
YORK’S traditional postmark – as well as almost 160 jobs – will be lost when the city’s mail sorting office begins closing down this month.
Royal Mail has revealed that all items posted in the York postcode area will be sorted at a new high-tech centre near Leeds within the next few weeks, instead of York’s Leeman Road complex.
Mail including postcards sent by tourists visiting York will then carry the Leeds postmark instead of that of the historic city.
A Royal Mail spokeswoman said a postmark denoted where mail was processed, not posted.
York Central MP Hugh Bayley said he was concerned about the change.
He said: “York is one of the most visited tourist destinations in the UK.
“The York postmark is unique and valued by the tourist industry, local businesses, visitors to York and York residents. None of these groups would want to see the York stamp disappear.”
But the spokeswoman said the postmark was used to cancel postage on stamped mail, which was only a small proportion of the mail it handled – about 12 per cent nationally. “The majority of mail now has a prepaid postage mark or a franking mark and so does not need a postage cancellation mark.”
She said 157 jobs were going in York, with about 60 posts transferring across to Leeds.
But there had not been any compulsory redundancies, and staff wishing to remain within the business would continue to do so, either by transferring to Leeds or working on deliveries in York.
“We will also – in line with our business policy – reimburse our staff for any extra mileage incurred by the changes in their place of work.”
She said the next phase of the changes would take place early next year, when mail posted to York from elsewhere in the UK would be processed in Leeds instead of Leeman Road.
She stressed that the changes would not affect mail deliveries, which would still be handled by staff at Leeman Road, and customers would still be able to post mail at Leeman Road up to 6pm Monday to Friday – compared to 6.30pm at the moment – and up to 1pm on a Saturday.
She said the programme to modernise Royal Mail was one of the biggest transformations in UK industry currently taking place.
“We need to modernise in response to the decline in the volume of posted mail and to introduce the latest technology to our sorting centres.
“The expansion of our Leeds site represents a significant investment by Royal Mail in services in the North East & Yorkshire.”
Mr Bayley said he had concerns that standards of service would suffer, as Leeds staff with poorer knowledge of the York area became involved in processing York’s mail, and he called for the impact of the changes to be closely monitored.
Comments(65)
Sawday2
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9:44am Mon 8 Oct 12
Incorrect use of the word STILL here. 'Still' implies that last post would be 6:30 as now, ie STILL 6:30.
pedalling paul
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10:18am Mon 8 Oct 12
was york now rotherham
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10:20am Mon 8 Oct 12
Also the last letter i sent from leeds sorting office at sturton it took 2 days first class to reach my mothers in york.
old_geezer
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10:21am Mon 8 Oct 12
A few years ago last post was after midnight, then progressively reduced with a really irritating notice "To improve the quality and reliability of our service ...". And managers wonders why they're such a despised breed!
Jazzper
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10:46am Mon 8 Oct 12
oldgoat
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10:58am Mon 8 Oct 12
Dr Brian
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11:34am Mon 8 Oct 12
But Joking apart - this really is dreadful service by the Royal Mail - wow we can post a letter at 6 pm at Leeman Road - as has already been pointed out we could post a letter at 9 pm and (I think) later a few years ago so why are they claiming this 6pm deadline as a positve?
Fat Harry
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12:13pm Mon 8 Oct 12
York, Wakefield, Halifax, Bradford, etc, are all becoming suburbs of greater Leeds.
Coming soon: LS postcodes for all, Leeds Minster, Leeds Mystery Plays.
nasrudin
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12:16pm Mon 8 Oct 12
That's more important than the loss of the work "York" on a stamp that's illegible 95% of the time anyway.
LoveMyPuppy
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12:28pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Big Bad Wolf
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12:46pm Mon 8 Oct 12
pedalling paul wrote:Surely the post comes on a lorry already?
More damned great lorries trundling up and down the A64 and Tadcaster Rd, Blossom St & Leeman Road.
notmyrealname
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12:56pm Mon 8 Oct 12
johnabostock
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1:03pm Mon 8 Oct 12
notmyrealname wrote:The tunnel has been closed off for years from the RM end - used to keep broken bits and pieces in, as well as empty Yorkies, etc.
is the tunnel to platform four still open ?- could be easy access to the station from the half empty commuter flats that will inevitably be built there.!
mortimer897
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1:08pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Seems that York and the surrounding area are gradually losing their identity.
rosewoodfarms
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1:10pm Mon 8 Oct 12
asd
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1:40pm Mon 8 Oct 12
rosewoodfarms wrote:How do you figure that one out? maybe if you investigated, its actually because Leeds has a state of the art sorting office that is running at only 30% capacity. So royal mail decided that why dont we use the full capabilty and get other area's sorted at Leeds. They can then sell of land, get rid of staff and reduce delivery, that is actually whats happening
I guess this is the result of union action - you can't pay the same number of people more money without something having to give. Better pay for some, but at what price?
KAT1965
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1:59pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Kevin Turvey
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2:07pm Mon 8 Oct 12
More damned great lorries trundling up and down the A64 and Tadcaster Rd, Blossom St & Leeman Road.’
‘Big Bad Wolf says... 12:46pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Surely the post comes on a lorry already?’
Not in his perfect world! It is all hand delivered by bicycle by a happy whistling postie!
Although how parcels are delivered around the country and remote areas out of cycling range in his world is unclear!
Or is he just deluded?
roadwars
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2:12pm Mon 8 Oct 12
rosewoodfarms wrote:Ha! is it not about corporate greed? the constant demands of all business and service to operate in the most streamlined way to maximise profits for their shareholders - with royal mail this is currently the government.
I guess this is the result of union action - you can't pay the same number of people more money without something having to give. Better pay for some, but at what price?
Think about this, the Royal Mail returns hundreds of £millions to the treasury every year (has done most years except a few bad ones in the late 90s when they started playing the corporate game) but instead of continuing that bonus for future governments they all want to cash it in for the £Billion instant gratification (to get themselves out of the carp).
On top of this to ensure they get a good price when Royal Mail is sold, the current con men in charge of the country have raided Royal Mails time-bomb of a pension pot, taken the £23billion equity as a loan that will have to be repaid more than double by whoever is unlucky enough to be in charge for the next few sessions...
Ousetunes
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2:26pm Mon 8 Oct 12
The number of letters I received with the York post-mark in the late 1980s would send my heart rocketing; it would be a letter from my (then) girlfriend.
And of course, the letters I sent back (usually on the same day, eight and ten sides longs) would carry a York post-code, Y03 7HA (since changed, too).
Happy days.
Yorkie41
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3:13pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Big Bad Wolf wrote:who do you think empties all the postboxes, i am sure they don't go round the city of York and district in big lorries.
pedalling paul wrote: More damned great lorries trundling up and down the A64 and Tadcaster Rd, Blossom St & Leeman Road.Surely the post comes on a lorry already?
There was a time when you could post a letter a Leeman Road at variouse times of the night and it would be processed, for the next available dellivery. My oppinion is that this is a big mistake and a backward step. and again mail users would not see how long it took for their mail to be dellivered. and putting a first class stamp on the mail would not make any differance because even that service has gone.what has happened to next day dellivery. I suppose all these changes are getting ready for the big Royal mail sell off. All in all a sad day for Royal Mail.
spockboy2
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3:46pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Like you were 2 years ago when this kicked off.
where have you been in-between Mr B ?
http://www.yorkpress
.co.uk/news/8458137.
York_MP_Hugh_Bayley_
says_Royal_Mail_must
_consult_over_sortin
g_plans/
The article missed out the nice payments people are receiving to leave the business on V/ Evr terms and the impact the union had on getting great deals for people.
One fine example is some folks are getting paid by taxi to complete their duty at Leeds(there and back) for the next 5 years at £90 a day (each) costs to RM.
Plus all allowances are kept no matter what shift workers are on,and with massive 5 year deals on petrol allowances.
Those strikes you lot moaned at the time were well worth it now as they helped to achieve the above deals.
Obviously I am in the group of people who have ''lost'' their job but believe me I am very very happy.
Time to book a nice holiday me thinks :)
The service will improve for York its a no brainier when you know the facts.
PS stuff the postmark its nostalgia and that's it !
bloodaxe
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4:07pm Mon 8 Oct 12
was york now rotherham wrote:It doesn't say that the Leeman Road site will be closed, as staff will still be handling mail there. Unless they use tents perhaps. How many mothers do you have just as a matter of interest ?
what do you expect from Royal mail it's prime city centre development land they will get a load of cash for it now never mind all the scrap that they can cash in on happy days for Royal mail but a massive sad day for york folk.
Also the last letter i sent from leeds sorting office at sturton it took 2 days first class to reach my mothers in york.
bloodaxe
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4:08pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Fat Harry wrote:Hyperbolic or what ?
The so-called "Leeds City Region" spreads its tentacles a little further.
York, Wakefield, Halifax, Bradford, etc, are all becoming suburbs of greater Leeds.
Coming soon: LS postcodes for all, Leeds Minster, Leeds Mystery Plays.
Yorkie41
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4:32pm Mon 8 Oct 12
spockboy2 wrote:Well I no the facts spockboy and it seems to that it is people like ypu that have ruined the jobs at Royal mail over the years. starting in the days when we used to do rebate mail and also mail that was due out on second dellivery was taken out on first dellivery. when York got it's first Generation post coding machines from Newcastle what did the young coders do, they went well over the rate for doing the job wich was 1600 an hour oh I can do 2,00 and so on. not thinking that some people could not do it as fast, for perfectly good reasons.and some of the union reps where not much better they took on managerial jobs, and sold there working mates down the river.
Quote..''York Central MP Hugh Bayley said he was concerned about the change.'' Like you were 2 years ago when this kicked off. where have you been in-between Mr B ? http://www.yorkpress .co.uk/news/8458137. York_MP_Hugh_Bayley_ says_Royal_Mail_must _consult_over_sortin g_plans/ The article missed out the nice payments people are receiving to leave the business on V/ Evr terms and the impact the union had on getting great deals for people. One fine example is some folks are getting paid by taxi to complete their duty at Leeds(there and back) for the next 5 years at £90 a day (each) costs to RM. Plus all allowances are kept no matter what shift workers are on,and with massive 5 year deals on petrol allowances. Those strikes you lot moaned at the time were well worth it now as they helped to achieve the above deals. Obviously I am in the group of people who have ''lost'' their job but believe me I am very very happy. Time to book a nice holiday me thinks :) The service will improve for York its a no brainier when you know the facts. PS stuff the postmark its nostalgia and that's it !
Turpinette
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4:54pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Garrowby Turnoff
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5:22pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Sawday2
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5:33pm Mon 8 Oct 12
mortimer897 wrote:Get tuned into Emley Moor then. Then at least the news will come from Leeds as well.
Letters sorted in Leeds. "Local" TV news comes from Newcastle.
Seems that York and the surrounding area are gradually losing their identity.
spockboy2
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6:40pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Yorkie41 wrote:OH dear you just made me feel sooo guilty !
spockboy2 wrote:Well I no the facts spockboy and it seems to that it is people like ypu that have ruined the jobs at Royal mail over the years. starting in the days when we used to do rebate mail and also mail that was due out on second dellivery was taken out on first dellivery. when York got it's first Generation post coding machines from Newcastle what did the young coders do, they went well over the rate for doing the job wich was 1600 an hour oh I can do 2,00 and so on. not thinking that some people could not do it as fast, for perfectly good reasons.and some of the union reps where not much better they took on managerial jobs, and sold there working mates down the river.
Quote..''York Central MP Hugh Bayley said he was concerned about the change.'' Like you were 2 years ago when this kicked off. where have you been in-between Mr B ? http://www.yorkpress .co.uk/news/8458137. York_MP_Hugh_Bayley_ says_Royal_Mail_must _consult_over_sortin g_plans/ The article missed out the nice payments people are receiving to leave the business on V/ Evr terms and the impact the union had on getting great deals for people. One fine example is some folks are getting paid by taxi to complete their duty at Leeds(there and back) for the next 5 years at £90 a day (each) costs to RM. Plus all allowances are kept no matter what shift workers are on,and with massive 5 year deals on petrol allowances. Those strikes you lot moaned at the time were well worth it now as they helped to achieve the above deals. Obviously I am in the group of people who have ''lost'' their job but believe me I am very very happy. Time to book a nice holiday me thinks :) The service will improve for York its a no brainier when you know the facts. PS stuff the postmark its nostalgia and that's it !
RoseD
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7:13pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Fat Harry wrote:Good one!!
The so-called "Leeds City Region" spreads its tentacles a little further.
York, Wakefield, Halifax, Bradford, etc, are all becoming suburbs of greater Leeds.
Coming soon: LS postcodes for all, Leeds Minster, Leeds Mystery Plays.
Oh, but sad. I suspect this means the end of post getting across town overnight, which I have enjoyed in the past.
magic cat
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7:18pm Mon 8 Oct 12
bob the builder
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7:19pm Mon 8 Oct 12
was york now rotherham wrote:From whom? The following remain waste ground, old Civil Service sportsground after several years, British sugar, Water La. Grain Store, York teardrop, Terry's, and I'm sure people can remind me of some others. No developer can afford it and if it's for housing they have to sell a percentage below cost to social housing groups. Who is going take (if you can get) a mortgage to buy a £300-400k house then find the government paying £1000pm (often higher in York) rent for benefit recipients and asylum seekers next door?
what do you expect from Royal mail it's prime city centre development land they will get a load of cash for it now never mind all the scrap that they can cash in on happy days for Royal mail but a massive sad day for york folk.
Also the last letter i sent from leeds sorting office at sturton it took 2 days first class to reach my mothers in york.
bob the builder
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7:25pm Mon 8 Oct 12
pedalling paul wrote:RM is a minority HGV user of Tadcaster Road, Tesco and Sainsbury use HGV to deliver to their 'convenience' stores including in residential areas, add M&S, Poundland, Waitrose, and others. How long do you think they will handsort mail in York?, They invested at Stourton in state of the art machinery that recognises writing and does the work faster and more accurately than humans. I foresee a warehouse at Clifton Moor or similar site where the postman picks up his ready to deliver bag from.
More damned great lorries trundling up and down the A64 and Tadcaster Rd, Blossom St & Leeman Road.
Yorkie41
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7:43pm Mon 8 Oct 12
asd wrote:All that was on the cards over 30 years ago, nothing to do with state of the art Leeds office. Also Leeman road was run down over the years and no money spent on it,consiquently York has outgrown it's sorting office.
rosewoodfarms wrote: I guess this is the result of union action - you can't pay the same number of people more money without something having to give. Better pay for some, but at what price?How do you figure that one out? maybe if you investigated, its actually because Leeds has a state of the art sorting office that is running at only 30% capacity. So royal mail decided that why dont we use the full capabilty and get other area's sorted at Leeds. They can then sell of land, get rid of staff and reduce delivery, that is actually whats happening
spockboy2
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9:16pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Health and safety at the forefront .
Got to agree this was coming sooner or later but looking from outside the box its a no brainer.
Leeman road is a 60's eyesore on a piece of land worth a fortune it has 3 floor working and is falling down.
It flooded a bit recently and is in a bad position for traffic.
Only down side is the close community spirit among the workers in York will be lost as the new building at Leeds lacks atmosphere and people don't seem to mix well .
Scarlet Pimpernel
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9:19pm Mon 8 Oct 12
bob the builder wrote:Well said, Bob.
was york now rotherham wrote:From whom? The following remain waste ground, old Civil Service sportsground after several years, British sugar, Water La. Grain Store, York teardrop, Terry's, and I'm sure people can remind me of some others. No developer can afford it and if it's for housing they have to sell a percentage below cost to social housing groups. Who is going take (if you can get) a mortgage to buy a £300-400k house then find the government paying £1000pm (often higher in York) rent for benefit recipients and asylum seekers next door?
what do you expect from Royal mail it's prime city centre development land they will get a load of cash for it now never mind all the scrap that they can cash in on happy days for Royal mail but a massive sad day for york folk.
Also the last letter i sent from leeds sorting office at sturton it took 2 days first class to reach my mothers in york.
It won't be sold for housing, but maybe it could be redeveloped as student accommodation or a hotel ?That's if the proximity to the adjacent scarborough railway line doesn't put buyers off ? I suppose that it co-exists next to the Station Hotel so maybe not ?
BTW, you aren't Matthew Laverack are you Bob ? Some think anyone who comments on housing has to be Matthew, as they think he is alone in challenging the council's housing policy failure. Of course, I know you are not ML, but, others may not think you're not.
TERRIER3
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9:21pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Fat Harry wrote:isnt Halifax a suburb of Huddersfield?
The so-called "Leeds City Region" spreads its tentacles a little further.
York, Wakefield, Halifax, Bradford, etc, are all becoming suburbs of greater Leeds.
Coming soon: LS postcodes for all, Leeds Minster, Leeds Mystery Plays.
Scarlet Pimpernel
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9:24pm Mon 8 Oct 12
spockboy2 wrote:Based on the council's viability study upon which affordable housing targets are justified, the value of the land will be little more than it's existing use. Actually, no more than an extra £80,000/acre above industrial use value, to be precise.
yorkie41 if you visited the Leeds office you would change your mind it is an amazing work place with new and latest technology.
Health and safety at the forefront .
Got to agree this was coming sooner or later but looking from outside the box its a no brainer.
Leeman road is a 60's eyesore on a piece of land worth a fortune it has 3 floor working and is falling down.
It flooded a bit recently and is in a bad position for traffic.
Only down side is the close community spirit among the workers in York will be lost as the new building at Leeds lacks atmosphere and people don't seem to mix well .
Scarlet Pimpernel
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9:28pm Mon 8 Oct 12
bob the builder wrote:You missed Nestle south, the land at the side of the Barbican, and Shipton Street School, Bob.
was york now rotherham wrote:From whom? The following remain waste ground, old Civil Service sportsground after several years, British sugar, Water La. Grain Store, York teardrop, Terry's, and I'm sure people can remind me of some others. No developer can afford it and if it's for housing they have to sell a percentage below cost to social housing groups. Who is going take (if you can get) a mortgage to buy a £300-400k house then find the government paying £1000pm (often higher in York) rent for benefit recipients and asylum seekers next door?
what do you expect from Royal mail it's prime city centre development land they will get a load of cash for it now never mind all the scrap that they can cash in on happy days for Royal mail but a massive sad day for york folk.
Also the last letter i sent from leeds sorting office at sturton it took 2 days first class to reach my mothers in york.
Mark-In-Acomb
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9:28pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Buzz Light-year
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10:07pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:Clumsy and laboured.
bob the builder wrote:Well said, Bob. It won't be sold for housing, but maybe it could be redeveloped as student accommodation or a hotel ?That's if the proximity to the adjacent scarborough railway line doesn't put buyers off ? I suppose that it co-exists next to the Station Hotel so maybe not ? BTW, you aren't Matthew Laverack are you Bob ? Some think anyone who comments on housing has to be Matthew, as they think he is alone in challenging the council's housing policy failure. Of course, I know you are not ML, but, others may not think you're not.was york now rotherham wrote: what do you expect from Royal mail it's prime city centre development land they will get a load of cash for it now never mind all the scrap that they can cash in on happy days for Royal mail but a massive sad day for york folk. Also the last letter i sent from leeds sorting office at sturton it took 2 days first class to reach my mothers in york.From whom? The following remain waste ground, old Civil Service sportsground after several years, British sugar, Water La. Grain Store, York teardrop, Terry's, and I'm sure people can remind me of some others. No developer can afford it and if it's for housing they have to sell a percentage below cost to social housing groups. Who is going take (if you can get) a mortgage to buy a £300-400k house then find the government paying £1000pm (often higher in York) rent for benefit recipients and asylum seekers next door?
Trying too hard gives the opposite impression.
Jazzper
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10:09pm Mon 8 Oct 12
Mark-In-Acomb wrote:You took the words right out of my mouth Mark....I agree entirely!
I remember the days when I received my post BEFORE I set off for work and it wasn't junk mail from Rodgers. I have made a point never to visit Rodgers showroom as they ignore my request to remove me from their database. They won't be rodgering me for a ghastly sofa.
daveyboy25
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10:17pm Mon 8 Oct 12
SmarTmartY
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10:39pm Mon 8 Oct 12
TERRIER3 wrote:I'm not sure about Halifax's suburb status, but their mail (and Hudds) is processed by the Bradford office, which will also be transferring their work to Leeds next year. Progress eh?
Fat Harry wrote:isnt Halifax a suburb of Huddersfield?
The so-called "Leeds City Region" spreads its tentacles a little further.
York, Wakefield, Halifax, Bradford, etc, are all becoming suburbs of greater Leeds.
Coming soon: LS postcodes for all, Leeds Minster, Leeds Mystery Plays.
SmarTmartY
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10:44pm Mon 8 Oct 12
LoveMyPuppy wrote:No, they will still be held at either Leeman Road or Birch Park for collection (depending on where you live), at least until they relocate the Leeman Road delivery operation.
So what is to happen about undelivered parcels and signed for letters? Will we have to drive to Leeds to pick them up?
SmarTmartY
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11:17pm Mon 8 Oct 12
bob the builder wrote:I agree with everything you wrote Bob, except the more accurate than humans point. The software still isn't as accurate as an experienced manual sorter, a lot faster, oh yes. I know this because I used to check the machined mail until recently, and it can still make daft mistakes sometimes, probably more than me ha! ha!
pedalling paul wrote:RM is a minority HGV user of Tadcaster Road, Tesco and Sainsbury use HGV to deliver to their 'convenience' stores including in residential areas, add M&S, Poundland, Waitrose, and others. How long do you think they will handsort mail in York?, They invested at Stourton in state of the art machinery that recognises writing and does the work faster and more accurately than humans. I foresee a warehouse at Clifton Moor or similar site where the postman picks up his ready to deliver bag from.
More damned great lorries trundling up and down the A64 and Tadcaster Rd, Blossom St & Leeman Road.
It makes sense for RM to sell the existing site and relocate to some big tin hut out of the town centre, like the newer delivery offices, but only if they actually own the land. I had been told that the land is only leased, so what would happen in that situation? Plus York must be running out of land to put tin huts on, unless the green belt is reduced.
Yorkie-Clifton
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1:00am Tue 9 Oct 12
Magicman!
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2:32am Tue 9 Oct 12
Centralising things in big single locations doesn't work. Look at Firstgroup, all York complaints and lost items etc are dealt with in Bradford - this includes route changes, which sometimes shows up well when they advertise a new route going down some street that doesn't exist. Then what about insurance companies or computer companies and their support call centres? call 0800-wait-a-couple-o
f-hours-to-speak-to-
somebody-in-india.
Magicman!
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2:34am Tue 9 Oct 12
oldgoat wrote:Isn't that the same with food though? go in the supermarkets and products are getting their contents reduced by between 20-40% whilst the price stays the same - most people would rather the price go up a bit!
It's truly amazing that they've never bothered to ask whether we'd pay more to keep what was once a really first class service, rather than the third class one we seem to be expected to put up with now!
Magicman!
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2:39am Tue 9 Oct 12
Turpinette wrote:The Tories once again sell off a piece of Britain... following Electric, Gas, Coal, Trains, Buses......
And this is all to make it more of an attractive investment when Royal Mail is privatised in January 2013.
York1900
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6:18am Tue 9 Oct 12
I get 26 letters a year that I want but the postman delivers to me 212 days a year that is junk mail it seems that if the postman as not enough useful mail to deliver they top it up with junk mail is this a ploy by Royal Mail to make sure the postman as enough work to do
.
roskoboskovic
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9:37am Tue 9 Oct 12
Mork
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9:46am Tue 9 Oct 12
AlwaySwilby
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12:59pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Tim Cronin
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3:22pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Yorkie41
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3:33pm Tue 9 Oct 12
was york now rotherham
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6:25pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:where in my post did i mention it been sold for houseing all i said it was prime development land and that could mean anything like a new bus interchange for one its in the right place for one
bob the builder wrote:Well said, Bob.
was york now rotherham wrote:From whom? The following remain waste ground, old Civil Service sportsground after several years, British sugar, Water La. Grain Store, York teardrop, Terry's, and I'm sure people can remind me of some others. No developer can afford it and if it's for housing they have to sell a percentage below cost to social housing groups. Who is going take (if you can get) a mortgage to buy a £300-400k house then find the government paying £1000pm (often higher in York) rent for benefit recipients and asylum seekers next door?
what do you expect from Royal mail it's prime city centre development land they will get a load of cash for it now never mind all the scrap that they can cash in on happy days for Royal mail but a massive sad day for york folk.
Also the last letter i sent from leeds sorting office at sturton it took 2 days first class to reach my mothers in york.
It won't be sold for housing, but maybe it could be redeveloped as student accommodation or a hotel ?That's if the proximity to the adjacent scarborough railway line doesn't put buyers off ? I suppose that it co-exists next to the Station Hotel so maybe not ?
BTW, you aren't Matthew Laverack are you Bob ? Some think anyone who comments on housing has to be Matthew, as they think he is alone in challenging the council's housing policy failure. Of course, I know you are not ML, but, others may not think you're not.
was york now rotherham
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6:31pm Tue 9 Oct 12
bloodaxe wrote:i have 1 birth mother and 1 step mother or could that be 2 step mothers as the first one only lasted just over 18 months untill she asked for a divorce off my dad as us 3 kids made her life a liveing hell ha ha ha
was york now rotherham wrote:It doesn't say that the Leeman Road site will be closed, as staff will still be handling mail there. Unless they use tents perhaps. How many mothers do you have just as a matter of interest ?
what do you expect from Royal mail it's prime city centre development land they will get a load of cash for it now never mind all the scrap that they can cash in on happy days for Royal mail but a massive sad day for york folk.
Also the last letter i sent from leeds sorting office at sturton it took 2 days first class to reach my mothers in york.
PinzaC55
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8:21pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Yorkie41 wrote:"Make a complaint" ha ha as if they will listen.
My understanding is that that all delliveries should be completed by at least 1430, if it is not make a complaint.This sort of behavier by Royal Mail has got to stop, and get back to giveing their customers the service to wich they have allways been acustomed to.There is simply no exuse in the world for mail to be delivered after that time.
Yorkie41
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8:52pm Tue 9 Oct 12
PinzaC55 wrote:Don't complain at the office, complain directly to headquarters in London. That is why years ago they took the main bosses from each office away to stop people complaioning to them. now they are changing the post mark and people wont know how long and where the letter has been delayed it all stinks.
Yorkie41 wrote: My understanding is that that all delliveries should be completed by at least 1430, if it is not make a complaint.This sort of behavier by Royal Mail has got to stop, and get back to giveing their customers the service to wich they have allways been acustomed to.There is simply no exuse in the world for mail to be delivered after that time."Make a complaint" ha ha as if they will listen.
Royal Mail should come clean and tell us how long a second class letter should take to delliver and how long a first class letter should take. I have allways said don't put a stamp on and you will see that it is dellivered quicker because they want the money for it.
Even AndyD
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9:24pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Yorkie41
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9:47pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Even AndyD wrote:Isupose you will be doing business with Moon pig then will you, sorry it is not the same as some one sending you a card.
Less than a decade's time you won't be getting mail every day. Two, three times at the most. Changes are already progressing that way - most of my bills are e-statements, most of my 'letters' are emails. Why do we need postie wandering up our drive?
People will allways write letters and send cards but because of the high prices and the bad service lately people are not useing this service the same.
was york now rotherham
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10:24pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Even AndyD wrote:so dogs have someone to bite and chew on
Less than a decade's time you won't be getting mail every day. Two, three times at the most. Changes are already progressing that way - most of my bills are e-statements, most of my 'letters' are emails. Why do we need postie wandering up our drive?
rosewoodfarms
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12:45am Wed 10 Oct 12
asd wrote:Businesses do not work like that - if it were cheaper to employ people they would not spend millions on technology and run it at 30% of capacity.
rosewoodfarms wrote:How do you figure that one out? maybe if you investigated, its actually because Leeds has a state of the art sorting office that is running at only 30% capacity. So royal mail decided that why dont we use the full capabilty and get other area's sorted at Leeds. They can then sell of land, get rid of staff and reduce delivery, that is actually whats happening
I guess this is the result of union action - you can't pay the same number of people more money without something having to give. Better pay for some, but at what price?
I do not say that it is necessarily wrong that working people get more pay, merely that there are consequences, ie expensive technology becomes more competitive than people. Look at other industries and how they have changed from major employers to working with a skeleton workforce because the workforce is a major cost and customers, ie the public, demand a quicker service for (relatively) less.
Buzz Light-year says...
9:43am Mon 8 Oct 12