First views of Monks Cross stadium’s community use features

An artist’s impression of how the community hub at Monks Cross, part of the stadium scheme, could appear

An interior view of the community hub

Dr Paul Edmondson-Jones: Took part in discussions about the best way to use new community stadium

First published in News York Press: Photograph of the Author by , Political Reporter

THE first images of a “community hub” that will form part of York’s new stadium development have been revealed.

City of York Council has confirmed a string of organisations have now officially signed agreements to occupy the Monks Cross building which will be created alongside a 6,000-seat home for York City and York City Knights rugby league club.

It will include an Independent Living Assessment Centre, providing face-to-face advice to help disabled and elderly people stay in their homes, an outpatient facility for York Teaching Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, York St John University’s Institute of Community Sport and Wellbeing, children’s play facilities, a creche operated by Creepy Crawlies and an “e-learning” library.

The various organisations have signed “heads-of-terms” agreements. Plans for the stadium and the community building, as well as John Lewis, Marks & Spencer and Next stores nearby, were approved by the council in May, and the authority is now looking for a firm to design, build and operate the sporting venue, scheduled to be ready for the start of the 2014/15 football and rugby league season.

A community partnership event has been held at Clements Hall in York to outline to the community and voluntary sector how using the hub building could lead to “difficult-to-reach groups” become more involved.

Organisations attending included York Older People’s Assembly, Active York, North Yorkshire Sport and York Mental Health Forum.

Coun Sonja Crisp, cabinet member for leisure and culture issues, who opened the event, said: “We believe the community stadium will enable us to use the power of sport to promote wellbeing, put public health at the heart of our communities, engage children in healthy lifestyles and provide accessible learning opportunities for all.”

Guest speakers at the partnership meeting included representatives from the hospital trust, York St John and Creepy Crawlies, York City in the Community co-ordinator Paula Stainton and the council’s head of libraries and archives, Fiona Williams, as well as its director of public health and wellbeing Dr Paul Edmondson-Jones.

He said: “It was a great opportunity to get York’s community together to discuss how we can use the new community stadium and community hub in the best possible way to benefit the people of York.”

The organisations using the community hub will occupy 2,000sqm of space.

The outpatient facility will offer services including physiotherapy, pain management, sexual health advice, weight management and blood-taking.

The Institute of Community Sport and Wellbeing will run schemes designed to promote sport, activity, health and education.

The library facility will support genealogy research and access to sports archives.

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9:40am Sat 6 Oct 12

Even AndyD says...

This always was going to be a community facility, as many other similar projects up and down the country are. The naysayers and axe-grinders claim otherwise, but evidence has always suggested they are wrong.
Need to do something about that 6000 figure - hope some of the rumours I'm hearing are true.
This always was going to be a community facility, as many other similar projects up and down the country are. The naysayers and axe-grinders claim otherwise, but evidence has always suggested they are wrong. Need to do something about that 6000 figure - hope some of the rumours I'm hearing are true. Even AndyD
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9:47am Sat 6 Oct 12

Head of Bomber Command says...

Same here on the 6K EAD.

Place the away supporters in the stadium and the home support could be down well below 5K
Same here on the 6K EAD. Place the away supporters in the stadium and the home support could be down well below 5K Head of Bomber Command
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10:01am Sat 6 Oct 12

duffy says...

Nothing new here and sadly still talk of only a 6000 seater stadium. Two more clubs in Wimbledon and Cambridge are pushing out plans for new grounds ranging from 10/12000 capacity upwards. These are clubs no bigger than York, we are going to end up with the smallest new build stadium of any real football club in the country.0
Nothing new here and sadly still talk of only a 6000 seater stadium. Two more clubs in Wimbledon and Cambridge are pushing out plans for new grounds ranging from 10/12000 capacity upwards. These are clubs no bigger than York, we are going to end up with the smallest new build stadium of any real football club in the country.0 duffy
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10:34am Sat 6 Oct 12

Head of Bomber Command says...

and by all account's it's the way forward for the club, 6 bl**dy thousand.

The football clubs aim must be for lower League 2 survival and no further.
At least we have a club to support I guess.
and by all account's it's the way forward for the club, 6 bl**dy thousand. The football clubs aim must be for lower League 2 survival and no further. At least we have a club to support I guess. Head of Bomber Command
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11:16am Sat 6 Oct 12

TerryYork says...

The crowds this season, including today's game, show 6,000 is nowhere near enough.
The crowds this season, including today's game, show 6,000 is nowhere near enough. TerryYork
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12:15pm Sat 6 Oct 12

redbluelion says...

needs to be 12000 at least..and be able to expand to at least 15000..
needs to be 12000 at least..and be able to expand to at least 15000.. redbluelion
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12:30pm Sat 6 Oct 12

redbluelion says...

we have the chance now to build a stadium that is fitting for the ever growing city of york..lets make sure its right and not just a shoe box size stadium..what doe's that say about ambition of york city football club.this is the new beginning for us..i for one want to see us rise up the leagues.and at least play in the championship..
we have the chance now to build a stadium that is fitting for the ever growing city of york..lets make sure its right and not just a shoe box size stadium..what doe's that say about ambition of york city football club.this is the new beginning for us..i for one want to see us rise up the leagues.and at least play in the championship.. redbluelion
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1:38pm Sat 6 Oct 12

speaks99 says...

redbluelion wrote:
we have the chance now to build a stadium that is fitting for the ever growing city of york..lets make sure its right and not just a shoe box size stadium..what doe's that say about ambition of york city football club.this is the new beginning for us..i for one want to see us rise up the leagues.and at least play in the championship..
I love posts like this. Where the poster completely loses all grip on reality and believes that York City have a realistic chance of playing in the premier league, like life is just one big game of championship manager...
We're a lower league team. Always have been, and presuming we aren't picked up by some billionaire sugar daddy, chances are we always will be. If you personally want to give the additional £10m to build a premier league standard ground then we thank you very much.
The size of the stadium is probably going to be one of the biggest decisions this club faces. Get it too small (6000 for example) not only do we lose the ability to have that goal of moving onwards and upwards, but we possibly put people off. Get it too big and that graveyard that is being talked about will become a reality... If it were my decision I'd be looking for a 8k - 10k capacity with the option to extend at a later date.
[quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: we have the chance now to build a stadium that is fitting for the ever growing city of york..lets make sure its right and not just a shoe box size stadium..what doe's that say about ambition of york city football club.this is the new beginning for us..i for one want to see us rise up the leagues.and at least play in the championship..[/p][/quote]I love posts like this. Where the poster completely loses all grip on reality and believes that York City have a realistic chance of playing in the premier league, like life is just one big game of championship manager... We're a lower league team. Always have been, and presuming we aren't picked up by some billionaire sugar daddy, chances are we always will be. If you personally want to give the additional £10m to build a premier league standard ground then we thank you very much. The size of the stadium is probably going to be one of the biggest decisions this club faces. Get it too small (6000 for example) not only do we lose the ability to have that goal of moving onwards and upwards, but we possibly put people off. Get it too big and that graveyard that is being talked about will become a reality... If it were my decision I'd be looking for a 8k - 10k capacity with the option to extend at a later date. speaks99
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1:48pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Head of Bomber Command says...

Dead right speaks99. IMO we should be looking at a similar capacity to start with that we already have at BC, which is a tad over 9K.
Dead right speaks99. IMO we should be looking at a similar capacity to start with that we already have at BC, which is a tad over 9K. Head of Bomber Command
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2:02pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Torkie says...

Spooky.
Spooky. Torkie
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3:07pm Sat 6 Oct 12

The Mc says...

The crowd looks a bit "thin" on the ground in the picture!
The crowd looks a bit "thin" on the ground in the picture! The Mc
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5:24pm Sat 6 Oct 12

TerryYork says...

The Mc wrote:
The crowd looks a bit "thin" on the ground in the picture!
Crap graphics that show nothing really.

Nearly 6,000 at the game today, which goes to show how stupid the new stadium's capacity is.

Are we really going to risk turning people away in Div 2 games? Laughing stock doesn't even cover it.

9,000 expandable, at the very least.
[quote][p][bold]The Mc[/bold] wrote: The crowd looks a bit "thin" on the ground in the picture![/p][/quote]Crap graphics that show nothing really. Nearly 6,000 at the game today, which goes to show how stupid the new stadium's capacity is. Are we really going to risk turning people away in Div 2 games? Laughing stock doesn't even cover it. 9,000 expandable, at the very least. TerryYork
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5:58pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Even AndyD says...

speaks99 wrote:
redbluelion wrote:
we have the chance now to build a stadium that is fitting for the ever growing city of york..lets make sure its right and not just a shoe box size stadium..what doe's that say about ambition of york city football club.this is the new beginning for us..i for one want to see us rise up the leagues.and at least play in the championship..
I love posts like this. Where the poster completely loses all grip on reality and believes that York City have a realistic chance of playing in the premier league, like life is just one big game of championship manager...
We're a lower league team. Always have been, and presuming we aren't picked up by some billionaire sugar daddy, chances are we always will be. If you personally want to give the additional £10m to build a premier league standard ground then we thank you very much.
The size of the stadium is probably going to be one of the biggest decisions this club faces. Get it too small (6000 for example) not only do we lose the ability to have that goal of moving onwards and upwards, but we possibly put people off. Get it too big and that graveyard that is being talked about will become a reality... If it were my decision I'd be looking for a 8k - 10k capacity with the option to extend at a later date.
Exactly - YCFC fans are nothing if not realists. Money dictates and neither us nor the Council have a great deal of it. 8000 with the option to enlarge would be a result in my opinion. Certainly the best we can hope for.
6000 was too small when we were in the Conference, it simply won't do as a League club. Based on current plans the home sections are only going to house about 4500. Not enough - no club moves to a smaller ground, it will be a laughing stock.
[quote][p][bold]speaks99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: we have the chance now to build a stadium that is fitting for the ever growing city of york..lets make sure its right and not just a shoe box size stadium..what doe's that say about ambition of york city football club.this is the new beginning for us..i for one want to see us rise up the leagues.and at least play in the championship..[/p][/quote]I love posts like this. Where the poster completely loses all grip on reality and believes that York City have a realistic chance of playing in the premier league, like life is just one big game of championship manager... We're a lower league team. Always have been, and presuming we aren't picked up by some billionaire sugar daddy, chances are we always will be. If you personally want to give the additional £10m to build a premier league standard ground then we thank you very much. The size of the stadium is probably going to be one of the biggest decisions this club faces. Get it too small (6000 for example) not only do we lose the ability to have that goal of moving onwards and upwards, but we possibly put people off. Get it too big and that graveyard that is being talked about will become a reality... If it were my decision I'd be looking for a 8k - 10k capacity with the option to extend at a later date.[/p][/quote]Exactly - YCFC fans are nothing if not realists. Money dictates and neither us nor the Council have a great deal of it. 8000 with the option to enlarge would be a result in my opinion. Certainly the best we can hope for. 6000 was too small when we were in the Conference, it simply won't do as a League club. Based on current plans the home sections are only going to house about 4500. Not enough - no club moves to a smaller ground, it will be a laughing stock. Even AndyD
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7:19pm Sat 6 Oct 12

redbluelion says...

why you having a go at me..i said we need the stadium bigger if we are to move up the leagues..i said nothing about me dreaming of playing in the premiership..but we could make the championship..i have been a york fan a long time now..since 1973..its all about ambition.
why you having a go at me..i said we need the stadium bigger if we are to move up the leagues..i said nothing about me dreaming of playing in the premiership..but we could make the championship..i have been a york fan a long time now..since 1973..its all about ambition. redbluelion
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7:45pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Even AndyD says...

redbluelion wrote:
why you having a go at me..i said we need the stadium bigger if we are to move up the leagues..i said nothing about me dreaming of playing in the premiership..but we could make the championship..i have been a york fan a long time now..since 1973..its all about ambition.
Speaks is trying to tell you that there is a world of difference between what we'd all like to get in terms of a stadium and what is realistic. Last time I looked, we were not a well off club and the Council aren't likely to throw millions at a project like this in the middle of the worst recession in living memory. Add to that the fact we've spent only two seasons at Championship level, have League two fanbase and have spent the last 8 yrs in the Conference....... Well, come on, we are going to alienate people if we start demanding a 20,000 all seater fit for the Championship! Money - where is it coming from?
[quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: why you having a go at me..i said we need the stadium bigger if we are to move up the leagues..i said nothing about me dreaming of playing in the premiership..but we could make the championship..i have been a york fan a long time now..since 1973..its all about ambition.[/p][/quote]Speaks is trying to tell you that there is a world of difference between what we'd all like to get in terms of a stadium and what is realistic. Last time I looked, we were not a well off club and the Council aren't likely to throw millions at a project like this in the middle of the worst recession in living memory. Add to that the fact we've spent only two seasons at Championship level, have League two fanbase and have spent the last 8 yrs in the Conference....... Well, come on, we are going to alienate people if we start demanding a 20,000 all seater fit for the Championship! Money - where is it coming from? Even AndyD
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8:42pm Sat 6 Oct 12

speaks99 says...

redbluelion wrote:
why you having a go at me..i said we need the stadium bigger if we are to move up the leagues..i said nothing about me dreaming of playing in the premiership..but we could make the championship..i have been a york fan a long time now..since 1973..its all about ambition.
I don't mean to be getting at you in particular... Just so many people with the attitude that we should be getting a championship sized ground. Like I said, 6k is too small, but stick a 12k - 15k seater stadium, with 2700 people sat in it on a cold Tuesday evening... That really would be a tragedy.
Ambition is all well and good, but we also need a heady dose of reality too.
[quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: why you having a go at me..i said we need the stadium bigger if we are to move up the leagues..i said nothing about me dreaming of playing in the premiership..but we could make the championship..i have been a york fan a long time now..since 1973..its all about ambition.[/p][/quote]I don't mean to be getting at you in particular... Just so many people with the attitude that we should be getting a championship sized ground. Like I said, 6k is too small, but stick a 12k - 15k seater stadium, with 2700 people sat in it on a cold Tuesday evening... That really would be a tragedy. Ambition is all well and good, but we also need a heady dose of reality too. speaks99
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10:58pm Sat 6 Oct 12

duffy says...

speaks99 wrote:
redbluelion wrote:
why you having a go at me..i said we need the stadium bigger if we are to move up the leagues..i said nothing about me dreaming of playing in the premiership..but we could make the championship..i have been a york fan a long time now..since 1973..its all about ambition.
I don't mean to be getting at you in particular... Just so many people with the attitude that we should be getting a championship sized ground. Like I said, 6k is too small, but stick a 12k - 15k seater stadium, with 2700 people sat in it on a cold Tuesday evening... That really would be a tragedy.
Ambition is all well and good, but we also need a heady dose of reality too.
I think most people are being realistic, most I speak to think 8-10000 would be a good size. I don't know of anyone wanting a 20-000 seater stadium. It's still a fact though that most clubs of about our size are looking at, and building stadiums of 10-12000 to allow for progression and if you get it right as the likes if Rotherham have you reap the rewards in higher attendances.
[quote][p][bold]speaks99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: why you having a go at me..i said we need the stadium bigger if we are to move up the leagues..i said nothing about me dreaming of playing in the premiership..but we could make the championship..i have been a york fan a long time now..since 1973..its all about ambition.[/p][/quote]I don't mean to be getting at you in particular... Just so many people with the attitude that we should be getting a championship sized ground. Like I said, 6k is too small, but stick a 12k - 15k seater stadium, with 2700 people sat in it on a cold Tuesday evening... That really would be a tragedy. Ambition is all well and good, but we also need a heady dose of reality too.[/p][/quote]I think most people are being realistic, most I speak to think 8-10000 would be a good size. I don't know of anyone wanting a 20-000 seater stadium. It's still a fact though that most clubs of about our size are looking at, and building stadiums of 10-12000 to allow for progression and if you get it right as the likes if Rotherham have you reap the rewards in higher attendances. duffy
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11:04am Mon 8 Oct 12

barcooter says...

8-10k with cantilever roof (no stanchions please) is more than adequate even if we were to reach the Championship one day. Colchester's ground was built for the same purpose with even higher capacity and looks a very sorry sight at the moment with 3.5k in it.
8-10k with cantilever roof (no stanchions please) is more than adequate even if we were to reach the Championship one day. Colchester's ground was built for the same purpose with even higher capacity and looks a very sorry sight at the moment with 3.5k in it. barcooter
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7:47pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Ousetunes says...

I am no Millers fan but look at Rotherham United and their attendances this season.

Since they moved to their new ground crowds have doubled and they've nearly sold out. (I think the capacity is 12000.)

And they've beaten the Minstermen to something else too.

Their ground's called The New York Stadium!!
I am no Millers fan but look at Rotherham United and their attendances this season. Since they moved to their new ground crowds have doubled and they've nearly sold out. (I think the capacity is 12000.) And they've beaten the Minstermen to something else too. Their ground's called The New York Stadium!! Ousetunes
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3:05pm Tue 9 Oct 12

speaks99 says...

Ousetunes wrote:
I am no Millers fan but look at Rotherham United and their attendances this season.

Since they moved to their new ground crowds have doubled and they've nearly sold out. (I think the capacity is 12000.)

And they've beaten the Minstermen to something else too.

Their ground's called The New York Stadium!!
The crowds when a new stadium opens are all well and good. Revisit this in a year or two when they are rooted to the middle of league 1/2 - the crowds will be back to the 3500 - 4000 that they're traditionally used to.
[quote][p][bold]Ousetunes[/bold] wrote: I am no Millers fan but look at Rotherham United and their attendances this season. Since they moved to their new ground crowds have doubled and they've nearly sold out. (I think the capacity is 12000.) And they've beaten the Minstermen to something else too. Their ground's called The New York Stadium!![/p][/quote]The crowds when a new stadium opens are all well and good. Revisit this in a year or two when they are rooted to the middle of league 1/2 - the crowds will be back to the 3500 - 4000 that they're traditionally used to. speaks99
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10:21am Fri 12 Oct 12

YorkCity4Ever says...

Personally would be happy if we went for an 8,000 seater stadium, any more would be unnecessary. It would take a premier league team in the cup for us to fill it..

When we move here attendances are likely to decrease, do people really want to see 3-4,000 people sat in a 12,000 seater stadium?
Personally would be happy if we went for an 8,000 seater stadium, any more would be unnecessary. It would take a premier league team in the cup for us to fill it.. When we move here attendances are likely to decrease, do people really want to see 3-4,000 people sat in a 12,000 seater stadium? YorkCity4Ever
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