Half of York's salt bins may not be filled

ALMOST half of York's salt bins could be left empty this winter after council chiefs said they no longer have the money to fill them.

A review of City of York Council 's winter maintenance policy has led to parish councils across the city being asked if they can foot the bill for filling 170 bins in their communities – used to treat icy surfaces – following changes to the ward committee funding system.

The city council plans to fill only the 199 bins paid for through its highways budget, but has said it will leave the other bins in place.

However, a report on the issue has warned parish councils feel meeting the costs of stocking and maintaining them would be “double taxation” and a “drain on already tight finances”.

The Liberal Democrat group has described the plans as “a mess” and “a recipe for disaster” if treacherous pavements cannot be treated.

But the ruling Labour group said contingency funding would be available for filling bins which it will not automatically fund.

Coun Ann Reid , the Lib Dems environmental services spokeswoman, said: “All bins will be left out over the winter, but nearly half will not have any salt in them.

“Most residents will only know which bins are empty when they open them on a freezing January morning. Vulnerable residents will be left without a vital grit supply and a crucial tool for getting around safely in icy conditions will be lost.”

Coun Reid said she and two other Lib Dem councillors were calling in the proposals for more scrutiny and asking for a rethink, claiming Labour had gone back on a promise to keep all salt bins refilled.

However, Coun David Levene, cabinet member for environmental services, said the council had made a commitment to provide salt supplies where they were needed.

“Bins will remain in position in order that they can be filled from the council's contingency budget if required, so salt will be available to residents should the weather warrant it,” he said.

“A full review of salt bins across the city will be undertaken after this winter, with full public consultation, which will inform a more transparent and logical distribution of bins for those areas which most need them."

Comments(14)

fear your government says...
8:51am Sat 29 Sep 12

does this mean if an accident occurs due to icey conditions and the salt bin is empty we can claim against the council for not sticking to their contract.
we have paid for this service through our council tax, havent we?

bob the builder says...
8:55am Sat 29 Sep 12

Shop online and let the supermarkets deal with the ice and snow. If they start complaining something will happen very quickly.

Silver says...
9:25am Sat 29 Sep 12

Well last time we had people emptying the salt bins and using them byvan so this year it'll probably be more rock salt stolen

Oaklands Resident says...
9:40am Sat 29 Sep 12

What on earth does Mr Levene mean?

All the salt bins are going to be left on the streets but only half of them will be filled.

The other half will be filled with salt "if the weather warrents it"?

If heavy snow falls overnight then these bins provide the only way of some people being able to get out of their cul de sac and to work.

In the meantime the bins will continue to be used for litter with some in Acomb having already been demaged. What was left of last years salt has solidified making them unusable anyway.

& how will residents know which bins are being filled and which are just window dressing?

Completely half baked policy if ever there was one.

Whistlejacket says...
9:42am Sat 29 Sep 12

Why is this council always unable to fund the basic day-to-day services that the public expects, such as emptying the litter bins, filling the salt bins and repairing potholes, yet seems to have a limitless budget for grandiose schemes such as a free WiFi and pedestrianisation?
Could it be because the latter will look good on James Alexander's C.V. when he tries to shuffle another notch up the greasy pole towards Westminster?

monkeyhanger says...
10:06am Sat 29 Sep 12

Whistlejacket says...
9:42am Sat 29 Sep 12

Why is this council always unable to fund the basic day-to-day services that the public expects, such as emptying the litter bins, filling the salt bins and repairing potholes, yet seems to have a limitless budget for grandiose schemes such as a free WiFi and pedestrianisation?
Could it be because the latter will look good on James Alexander's C.V. when he tries to shuffle another notch up the greasy pole towards Westminster?”

I agree,they lie about having no money for essential services,but at the same time waste millions on consultants,feasabil
ity studies etc.How much did it cost to replace just about every lampost in the City?More than a few tons of salt I reckon.

eboracum says...
11:47am Sat 29 Sep 12

Council Chiefs say they have no money to fill almost half of York's salt bins this winter ....... Well they won't have, after Alexander the Grate has given the Theatre Royal half a million quid of OUR money!

roskoboskovic says...
11:56am Sat 29 Sep 12

you have to realise that the residents of york will always come a poor second to the tourists and the cyclists in the eyes of ycc whatever the controlling party.

Buzz Light-year says...
12:44pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Tax is not a retail model for goods and services.

Silver says...
1:13pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Buzz Light-year wrote:
Tax is not a retail model for goods and services.
No but providing a proper service is epected of it though

3.8liter says...
1:24pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Get rid of all these bins, they are only of any use if you have one right in front of your house. The rest of the year they are full of rubbish and a eyesore. If you want to de-ice your path, buy a bag of salt from B and Q ? What's wrong with that?

xtc says...
1:30pm Sat 29 Sep 12

3.8liter wrote:
Get rid of all these bins, they are only of any use if you have one right in front of your house. The rest of the year they are full of rubbish and a eyesore. If you want to de-ice your path, buy a bag of salt from B and Q ? What's wrong with that?
We ll have to due to lack of funds!oh we'll next years rent and council tax rise ll see to it.

Thisisme says...
3:38pm Sat 29 Sep 12

And i bet they find the money to agree rhe Councillors pay rise when they decide that in october!

Magicman! says...
2:16am Mon 1 Oct 12

Every year under this council it is gradually getting worse. Two years ago there was not enough roads getting gritted (including the foss islands cycle route, completely iced over), last year the council couldn't be bothered to employ people to combat the snow so they got a load of people to go out and do their dirty work unpaid, and now this year it seems like the salt bins might as well just be cardboard cutouts for the amount of use they'll be!

Monkeyhanger:
I agree,they lie about having no money for essential services,but at the same time waste millions on consultants,feasabil

ity studies etc.How much did it cost to replace just about every lampost in the City?More than a few tons of salt I reckon.

This was a necessary expenditure. Did anybody see the sign post that had fallen down on Petergate a few weeks ago? it had completely rotted at the bottom, with barely 1mm of metal at certain points of the structure - and all the lamp posts that have been replaced have been in the same state due to several years (about 2 decades) of under investment... the only difference being the failed lamp posts were not 2 meters tall but between 6 and 10 meters tall with a bracket about 2m long on, some columns also being cast iron.
If the council is low on funds, why did they waste £12k on Water End? why are they wasting it on more pedestrianisation of roads that people don't want pedestrianised? why are they giving themselves pay rises as if to suggest they're doing a good job?

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