Wishlist for traffic improvements is revealed by council

A NEW Park&Ride at Clifton Moor , a railway station in Haxby and hopes of dualling at least part of York’s northern ring road are included in a wishlist of schemes to improve transport in York over the coming decades.

People are now being invited to have their say on proposals being unveiled today by City of York Council , including improvements to bus services, a freight depot on the edge of town, demolition of the Queen Street Bridge and a new bus interchange beneath.

City transport bosses acknowledge they would need to win significant central government funding as well as investment from business to fund any of the schemes to tackle congestion, reduce pollution, improve public transport and boost business.

But Coun Dave Merrett said it was vital the council had a strategy of what it would like to achieve, so it could take advantage of any future funding opportunities.

Full details: Transport visions of how York could be>>

Comments(16)

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...
9:14am Mon 17 Sep 12

Well. I won't be holding my breath waiting for any of these things to happen.

Woody G Mellor says...
9:26am Mon 17 Sep 12

While we are talking about traffic.

The Bishopthorpe Road calming scheme is not working as everyone (apart from those that nagged for it) predicted.

Come the next local elections, for the first time ever I will NOT be voting for Labour. Bunch of fools.

Theendoftheworld says...
9:36am Mon 17 Sep 12

So the council are canvassing peoples' opinions. They will then ignore them as in the past. I'm with Woody on this one.
I have voted for Labour for over 40 years but enough is enough. I hope a decent independent stands in my ward because I certainly won't vote for the coalition!

Jazzper says...
10:03am Mon 17 Sep 12

Theendoftheworld wrote:
So the council are canvassing peoples' opinions. They will then ignore them as in the past. I'm with Woody on this one.
I have voted for Labour for over 40 years but enough is enough. I hope a decent independent stands in my ward because I certainly won't vote for the coalition!
I agree with the last posts...voting for this labour lot is akin to voting for The Red Army! I'm hoping for a public spirited independent candidate to stand in my ward too.

Pete the Brickie says...
10:29am Mon 17 Sep 12



City transport bosses acknowledge they would need to win significant central government funding as well as investment from business to fund any of the schemes to tackle congestion, reduce pollution, improve public transport and boost business.



This council regardless of which political party oversees it really needs to forget spending weeks filling in forms and grandstanding for government funding and concentrate on the basics which they already have the power to improve. They could "tackle congestion and reduce pollution" by removing obstacles to traffic they have placed in the road such as chicanes at Heslington and badly positioned islands with no bus pull ins on University road, phasing traffic signals to suit the time of day and likely directional flow of traffic on Fulford road and the A19, better supervision of York's bus drivers most of whom could cause more pollution than Chenobil and Doon Rae combined on an average shift with their 45 degree road positioning at stops.

They aren't going to dual any or all of the ring road during anyone at this council's lifetime unless Dr Who or Yoda have joined them recently and the new bus interchange is just another reason for lots of yellow jackets, brand new hard hats which will only ever be worn once for a Press photo, traffic chaos and a dinosour size carbon footprint while they build it.

Garrowby Turnoff says...
10:58am Mon 17 Sep 12

Why don't they build a new York Minster at Monks Cross? John Lewis might be interested in the old one - or it could be used as a new bus station.

Oncebitten says...
12:02pm Mon 17 Sep 12

and with a puff of light and big bang they all woke up.......to find the ring road blocked the Queen St bridge still there and pollution at a all time high......but we do all like a good fairy story..

purpleronnie says...
3:08pm Mon 17 Sep 12

They have been talking about the station in Haxby for years. I'll be very surprised if that happens.

meme says...
3:44pm Mon 17 Sep 12

I love this article!
I have a wish list and one is to win the euro millions but like most of these ideas there is no hope of doing so!
It will be a miracle if they can secure only access to York central at an affordable cost and YC is the foundation stone on which the entire LDF numbers was based ie 1million ft of offices 3000 new homes, a transport interchange and 250,000 sq ft of retail
These people are living in a fantasy world. And they suggest they want money off developers to fund part of it!!
What developers? Have they not noticed there is hardly anyone building and those that are are hard pressed enough as it is. Where are they supposed to find the money from when combined with affordable housing/public open space/educational agreements etc?
Its time this Labour party started facing reality and not living in cloud cuckoo land and delivered things which will happen and benefit york citizens now, not in 50 years time, if ever!
we can all dream but reality is what matters today

Priapus says...
6:59pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Hoverpads and jetpacks please!

pedalling paul says...
7:42pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Do I detect a note of realism.....an acknowledgement that building or widening roads simply encourages more private car journeys? That York can never build its way out of congestion. Are Water End queues starting to creep back, despite the reinstated LH filter lane?

Jazzper says...
8:33pm Mon 17 Sep 12

pedalling paul wrote:
Do I detect a note of realism.....an acknowledgement that building or widening roads simply encourages more private car journeys? That York can never build its way out of congestion. Are Water End queues starting to creep back, despite the reinstated LH filter lane?
"Are Water End queues starting to creep back, despite the reinstated LH filter lane?".....answer, NO !

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...
9:53pm Mon 17 Sep 12

pedalling paul wrote:
Do I detect a note of realism.....an acknowledgement that building or widening roads simply encourages more private car journeys? That York can never build its way out of congestion. Are Water End queues starting to creep back, despite the reinstated LH filter lane?
I drove from Leeman Rd to Shipton Rd this afternoon, and for the first time in 3 years I made the whole journey without having to stop once, not a single car was waiting at the lights.....Bliss....
.Well done CYC for keeping to your word on this.

Dick Turpin says...
7:52am Tue 18 Sep 12

The railway station serving Haxby, Wigginton and Strensall is well overdue. But one of the problems will be insufficent rolling stock on the railway. Already most of the trains during the busy periods are standing room only.

YorkShrimper says...
12:24pm Tue 18 Sep 12

PP have you been moonlighting on us?

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Magicman! says...
12:58am Fri 21 Sep 12

Dick Turpin wrote:
The railway station serving Haxby, Wigginton and Strensall is well overdue. But one of the problems will be insufficent rolling stock on the railway. Already most of the trains during the busy periods are standing room only.
Plus actual railway capacity. Did you know that beside Marygate car park the Scarborough rail line was reduced to single line a couple of years ago? Instead of turnback points, the capacity was reduced. Trains from York to the coast take roughly 50 minutes, which gives just enough time for a quick clean up at the eastern end and loading or unloading depending on which flow is the busiest. Stations at Haxby and Strensall would add between 5-10 minutes to journey times if you include acceleration and braking to the 1-2 mins boarding time at each station, which makes it unworkable with the current route setup. When the Transpennine franchise ends in 2014/15, the york-s'bro route will transfer to the new Northern franchise holder (which will have started in March 2014), and will be a bolt-on to the Blackpool service.... currently trains arriving into York from Blackpool have a 50 minute idling time, but the new route from 2014/15 will have the trains run fast between York and Leeds thus recovering 20-25 minutes journey time - this can then be used between York and Scarborough so that only 1 extra train is required but the timings from and west of Leeds stay the same.

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As for dualling the A1237: put your left hand up if you don't think this will ever get beyond the 'paper' stage... and put your right hand up if you think that even if it did get off the paper stage, the junctions would still remain as roundabouts and thus invalidate the whole exercise.

... Awful lot of hands there.

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