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‘Homecoming’ call for Richard III (From York Press)
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‘Homecoming’ call for Richard III
8:40am Monday 17th September 2012 in News
The remains of Richard III should be brought home to York and interred at the Minster, according to American historians.
The call from the The Richard III Foundation, Inc. comes after archaeologists searching for the Plantagenet king, Richard III, found skeletal remains under the Greyfriars car park in Leicester.
The bones had spinal abnormalities and a cleaved-in skull, suggesting it could be him. The University of Leicester is now testing the bones for DNA against descendants of Richard’s family.
Richard III had strong connections with York and Yorkshire, having spent much of his youth at Middleham Castle and visiting York several times after becoming king.
Joe Ann Ricca, founder and chief executive of foundation, said: “Richard obviously had no choice after he was killed as to where his remains were taken, but today we have the opportunity to right the many wrongs that have been done to this unjustly maligned king, by correcting the distorted picture that has been painted of Richard over the centuries, and by bringing his remains home to Yorkshire, and to York Minster as he wanted.”
Andy Smith, the foundation’s UK public relations director, said: “York was Richard’s city. It is where he belongs, and it is only right that this great Lord of the North should return home to Yorkshire after more than 500 years’ enforced absence.”
Comments(28)
dodgydavereturns
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8:58am Mon 17 Sep 12
Woody G Mellor
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8:58am Mon 17 Sep 12
( It'll be great publicity for York )
Guy Fawkes
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8:59am Mon 17 Sep 12
I will be keeping my two young nephews well away from him.
It might be an idea to keep your brother off the bottle, too.
micky moodys hat
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9:11am Mon 17 Sep 12
micky moodys hat
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9:11am Mon 17 Sep 12
Garrowby Turnoff
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10:19am Mon 17 Sep 12
Will.I.Aint
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11:28am Mon 17 Sep 12
dodgydavereturns
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11:56am Mon 17 Sep 12
' A hearse, a hearse my kingdom for a hearse!'
Oncebitten
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12:12pm Mon 17 Sep 12
xtc
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12:14pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Fat Harry
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12:24pm Mon 17 Sep 12
It's also about time Henry VII's role in the princes' deaths was thoroughly investigated. One for the "New Tricks" team, I think.
Even AndyD
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12:40pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Oncebitten wrote:Absolutely - stick him in a glass cabinet for a while, like the bones on show in Coppergate. Proper burial is fine, but surely he won't begrudge doing his bit for the local economy for a year first!
Now is the winter of our discontent. made glorious summer by this son of York......nice idea that he may be in finally laid to rest in York.....good for tourism.
lowbeam
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1:19pm Mon 17 Sep 12
if only to see Amanda Redman and the rest of the team back in action..
Woody G Mellor
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1:41pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Even AndyD wrote:Yep. Gotta be better than tar mac.
Oncebitten wrote: Now is the winter of our discontent. made glorious summer by this son of York......nice idea that he may be in finally laid to rest in York.....good for tourism.Absolutely - stick him in a glass cabinet for a while, like the bones on show in Coppergate. Proper burial is fine, but surely he won't begrudge doing his bit for the local economy for a year first!
dodgydavereturns
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2:38pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Oncebitten wrote:....Wasn't that Richard Burton?
Now is the winter of our discontent. made glorious summer by this son of York......nice idea that he may be in finally laid to rest in York.....good for tourism.
Blimp
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2:57pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Brilliant, love it! More please.
Caecilius
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5:49pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Woody G Mellor
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6:01pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Caecilius wrote:You obviously haven't done any research into this whatsoever.
Richard III lived in an age when, to paraphrase Edmund Blackadder, sickness and hideous deformities were commonplace. There would have been a hell of a lot of people in medieval Leicester with spinal abnormalities and the chance of ending up in the Greyfriars burial ground. I'm sure it wasn't unknown for townsfolk to get their skull bashed in, either, even assuming that the damage in this case wasn't done after burial. This could be anybody. And I'm intrigued to know where they're going to find "descendants of Richard's family" (i.e. Plantagenets) for a DNA comparison.
MrsDingledongle
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6:09pm Mon 17 Sep 12
MrsDingledongle
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6:11pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Even AndyD wrote:Where's your respect man - off with his head!!
Oncebitten wrote: Now is the winter of our discontent. made glorious summer by this son of York......nice idea that he may be in finally laid to rest in York.....good for tourism.Absolutely - stick him in a glass cabinet for a while, like the bones on show in Coppergate. Proper burial is fine, but surely he won't begrudge doing his bit for the local economy for a year first!
Terry3
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6:33pm Mon 17 Sep 12
For my part, should this prove to be Richard, I would be glad to see him come to York.
Rouge77
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7:20pm Mon 17 Sep 12
MrsDingledongle wrote:It's a direct maternal line from Richard III's mother they are after. Mary Tudor doesn't share it. Richard III and every descendant of the maternal line share the same mitochrondrial DNA, which is passed only from mothers to their children.
They say they have found a descendant of Richard's sister Anne. I don't see how it will work though - the only way they will be able to say for sure that it's Richard is if there has been no infidelity whatsoever in that line since whenever Anne got married and had a child. Since Richard died in 1485, that's a very long time, so as far as I see it, there's a slim chance of proving absolutely that these are his bones, but no way of proving that they are not. There would be a better chance of proving it if they could extract dna from the lock of hair which belonged to Mary Tudor.
dodgydavereturns
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8:33pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Even AndyD
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9:30pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Terry3 wrote:Oh for goodness sake, the chap has been dead 500 years, what do you want, a minute's silence?
Some sensible posts here, but sad to see that so many do not respect their history, or lack the intelligence to make a sensible comment.
For my part, should this prove to be Richard, I would be glad to see him come to York.
I understand our history, thank you very much, I also understand the need for a little humour occasionally. Tough old world without it.
RingoStarr
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10:04pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Even AndyD wrote:Idiot. It would be a fantastic boost York's Tourism...and more cash into York's coffers. Re your bit about being 'dead for 500 years' it's called HISTORY!
Terry3 wrote:Oh for goodness sake, the chap has been dead 500 years, what do you want, a minute's silence?
Some sensible posts here, but sad to see that so many do not respect their history, or lack the intelligence to make a sensible comment.
For my part, should this prove to be Richard, I would be glad to see him come to York.
I understand our history, thank you very much, I also understand the need for a little humour occasionally. Tough old world without it.
Even AndyD
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8:22am Tue 18 Sep 12
RingoStarr wrote:Erm - so you are agreeing with me then? My initial point was that this was good for tourism, I was just responding to the 'lack of respect' comment Terry made. Surely we can inject some humour AND discuss this topic?
Even AndyD wrote:Idiot. It would be a fantastic boost York's Tourism...and more cash into York's coffers. Re your bit about being 'dead for 500 years' it's called HISTORY!
Terry3 wrote:Oh for goodness sake, the chap has been dead 500 years, what do you want, a minute's silence?
Some sensible posts here, but sad to see that so many do not respect their history, or lack the intelligence to make a sensible comment.
For my part, should this prove to be Richard, I would be glad to see him come to York.
I understand our history, thank you very much, I also understand the need for a little humour occasionally. Tough old world without it.
Oncebitten
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9:25am Tue 18 Sep 12
dodgydavereturns wrote:Yeah thought that too when I visited......
Experts say they may have found Richard III in a Leicester car park. Ugly, disfigured and reviled, Leicester is at junction 20 off the M1.
capt spaulding says...
8:50am Mon 17 Sep 12