Middlethorpe Manor put on the market (From York Press)

..Another one moving to the Costa's then?

Puts PP Towers to shame....

Pffft. Hovel.

Steve Davis, managing director of York-based developers Grantside, lives at one of the city’s finest houses, Middlethorpe Manor, but has decided to re-locate.OR are the bank forcing him to relocate because of crippling debts at Terrys ??

Terry's site should be a thriving commercial and residential area by now, generating jobs for local people and rates for CoYC. Instead, thanks to the Council's astonishing record of indecision and delay, it is a derelict wasteland.
After six years of battling against a wall of bureacratic intransigence, is it suprising that Mr Davis wants to turn his back on York?

Now the bank own Terrys what will actually happen ?
They have tried to sell it without success
I cannot believe its viable to develop with the affordable contributions and other blackmail payments york extorted for giving a permission so where does that leave the citizens of york?
If CoYC had been organised and not so greedy this would not have been the spectacular financial failure it is now

Another developer who wishes he hadn't tried to do business with York Council.... they not only took the shirt off his back, his house is now going too !

Terry's, Nestle, Germany Beck, Hungate, Water Lane Grain Stores - all major housing schemes York allocated for it's five-year housing supply trajectory - all stalled - all because of York Council's flawed planning obligations, the biggest being their unworkable affordable housing demands !!!!

So much for Calamity James manifesto pledge of increasing housing and growth to York's economy. What a joke this Labour leadership really is !!!

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
Another developer who wishes he hadn't tried to do business with York Council.... they not only took the shirt off his back, his house is now going too !

Terry's, Nestle, Germany Beck, Hungate, Water Lane Grain Stores - all major housing schemes York allocated for it's five-year housing supply trajectory - all stalled - all because of York Council's flawed planning obligations, the biggest being their unworkable affordable housing demands !!!!

So much for Calamity James manifesto pledge of increasing housing and growth to York's economy. What a joke this Labour leadership really is !!!

Funny! I thought the grantside application was dealt with by the previous Council, you remember scarlet! the lib dem one led by Cllr Waller and Cllr Galloway, still why let the truth get in the way of a good lie!

peterstreet wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
Another developer who wishes he hadn't tried to do business with York Council.... they not only took the shirt off his back, his house is now going too !

Terry's, Nestle, Germany Beck, Hungate, Water Lane Grain Stores - all major housing schemes York allocated for it's five-year housing supply trajectory - all stalled - all because of York Council's flawed planning obligations, the biggest being their unworkable affordable housing demands !!!!

So much for Calamity James manifesto pledge of increasing housing and growth to York's economy. What a joke this Labour leadership really is !!!

Funny! I thought the grantside application was dealt with by the previous Council, you remember scarlet! the lib dem one led by Cllr Waller and Cllr Galloway, still why let the truth get in the way of a good lie!

Why can't we comment on the various stories of Labour incompetence anymore James?

peterstreet wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote: Another developer who wishes he hadn't tried to do business with York Council.... they not only took the shirt off his back, his house is now going too ! Terry's, Nestle, Germany Beck, Hungate, Water Lane Grain Stores - all major housing schemes York allocated for it's five-year housing supply trajectory - all stalled - all because of York Council's flawed planning obligations, the biggest being their unworkable affordable housing demands !!!! So much for Calamity James manifesto pledge of increasing housing and growth to York's economy. What a joke this Labour leadership really is !!!

Funny! I thought the grantside application was dealt with by the previous Council, you remember scarlet! the lib dem one led by Cllr Waller and Cllr Galloway, still why let the truth get in the way of a good lie!

What difference does it make ?

Both Labour and Lib-Dems support the same affordable housing policy, and the 50% target that was in force when Grantside applied and had planning permission granted was the brainchild of Coun D Merrett, who proposed it in November 2002.

So, you are wrong. There is no lies from me, but, you get plenty from the cheating councillors and their politicised cabal of officers, who have been hellbent on protecting this discriminatory and punitive policy.

Ichabod76 wrote:

peterstreet wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote: Another developer who wishes he hadn't tried to do business with York Council.... they not only took the shirt off his back, his house is now going too ! Terry's, Nestle, Germany Beck, Hungate, Water Lane Grain Stores - all major housing schemes York allocated for it's five-year housing supply trajectory - all stalled - all because of York Council's flawed planning obligations, the biggest being their unworkable affordable housing demands !!!! So much for Calamity James manifesto pledge of increasing housing and growth to York's economy. What a joke this Labour leadership really is !!!

Funny! I thought the grantside application was dealt with by the previous Council, you remember scarlet! the lib dem one led by Cllr Waller and Cllr Galloway, still why let the truth get in the way of a good lie!

Why can't we comment on the various stories of Labour incompetence anymore James?

I would say comments have probably been disallowed because a select few here went too far and got too personal.
Wouldn't be the first time.

meme wrote:
Now the bank own Terrys what will actually happen ?
They have tried to sell it without success
I cannot believe its viable to develop with the affordable contributions and other blackmail payments york extorted for giving a permission so where does that leave the citizens of york?
If CoYC had been organised and not so greedy this would not have been the spectacular financial failure it is now

What I mainly disagree with you on here is your use of 'blackmail' when you seem to mean 'coercion'.

Blackmail is actually "The action, treated as a criminal offense, of demanding money from a person in return for not revealing compromising or injurious information about that person."

Unless you're saying the Council has for example threatened to reveal photos of a developer with a prostitute and is demanding money from that developer in exchange for keeping the photos locked away, blackmail in no way applies here!

arglemcgee wrote:

meme wrote: Now the bank own Terrys what will actually happen ? They have tried to sell it without success I cannot believe its viable to develop with the affordable contributions and other blackmail payments york extorted for giving a permission so where does that leave the citizens of york? If CoYC had been organised and not so greedy this would not have been the spectacular financial failure it is now

What I mainly disagree with you on here is your use of 'blackmail' when you seem to mean 'coercion'. Blackmail is actually "The action, treated as a criminal offense, of demanding money from a person in return for not revealing compromising or injurious information about that person." Unless you're saying the Council has for example threatened to reveal photos of a developer with a prostitute and is demanding money from that developer in exchange for keeping the photos locked away, blackmail in no way applies here!

'Blackmail' is the term developers use to describe the cash or affordable housing extorted through the planning system. Put less sensationally, these obligations are taxes, the worst being affordable (social) housing. AH through S106 impacts in several ways on housebuilders bottom lines: the land has to be provide for nothing, the AH are built for the RSL, the builder receives less than the cost of construction, and private sale dwellings are devalued with private units next to social units are harder to sell, take longer to sell, and have to be discounted to sell.

Those of you not experienced or involved in housebuilding, as an investor or entrepreneur, have no idea how much of a disincentive this is.

that place needs gutting and replacing with black gloss and chrome

we call them 'blackmail' payments as without agreeing to them we cannot secure a consent!
However I accept its not actual blackmail, just legalised extortion, which is causing huge harm to York in general as the legalised extortionists have tried to extort too much and killed their own golden goose!