Details of Monks Cross stores backed by planners

PLANNERS have backed detailed proposals for a huge £90 million retail development on the edge of York.

Oakgate (Monks Cross) Ltd secured permission from City of York Council in May for new John Lewis and Marks & Spencer stores at Monks Cross, alongside a 6,000-seat stadium for York City FC and York City Knights and community facilities.

The developers have since confirmed Next will occupy the third unit at the complex, and its reserved matters planning application for the retail element of the scheme – which covers areas such as the appearance and layout of the stores – has been recommended for approval when the council’s planning committee meets next week.

Four restaurants and four retail kiosks, as well as a boulevard and a central walkway linking the stores to the Monks Cross Park&Ride site, will also be included in the scheme on land next to Jockey Lane, Kathryn Avenue and Martello Way, and work is set to start in the autumn if councillors rubber-stamp the proposals next week.

A separate application dealing with the design of the stadium will be submitted at a later date.

Comments(13)

Garrowby Turnoff says...
11:05am Wed 12 Sep 12

The stadium is under sized and therefore will never be selected for use by anyone other than local teams that are expected never to get promotion.

ReginaldBiscuit says...
11:56am Wed 12 Sep 12

Building more shops in the worse recession since WW2 is not a good idea. Nor is building more unaffordable housing. The country needs infrastructure and the ability to produce and export.

Jackanory2 says...
12:48pm Wed 12 Sep 12

Get on with it.

Even AndyD says...
12:55pm Wed 12 Sep 12

ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
Building more shops in the worse recession since WW2 is not a good idea. Nor is building more unaffordable housing. The country needs infrastructure and the ability to produce and export.
What makes you think we will still be in recession when the stadium is completed in 2015?
As for housing; surely more house building = more employment and increases the housing supply. As such the price will fall (due to more supply) and all homes will be more affordable. Also, people move up the ladder so more homes = more people moving up = more available property at 'entry level'.
Finally - if you think sitting doing nothing will get us out of a recession - you are deluded! Oh and - lets wait and see what the capacity is of this stadium, I hear discussions are taking place and current attendance figures looked at.

Hicarrumba says...
12:55pm Wed 12 Sep 12

How can M&S actually survive? the shop they have was almost empty mid day weds 2 weeks ago (yes was in there getting a present) it was desolate.

People are worrying about shops being effected in York, cant see how, not been into York once this summer without it being full of shoppers

MarkyMarkMark says...
1:20pm Wed 12 Sep 12

Here we go again . . .
Pro/anti stadium, pro/anti shopping outlets, pro/anti additional housing . . . ..

Steve, says...
2:29pm Wed 12 Sep 12

ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
Building more shops in the worse recession since WW2 is not a good idea. Nor is building more unaffordable housing. The country needs infrastructure and the ability to produce and export.
Do you really have to comment with your 'glass half empty' view?

If we don't allow jobs in said recession, improving infrastructure and building shops which people spend money in how do you expect there to be any gain from how we are now? There's been no proven reason against MX2, only silly remarks like yours but we lost the ability to export anything we make on a worthwhile scale when we gave up use of our industrial works so that's a redundant/wishful point.

Sawday2 says...
1:15pm Thu 13 Sep 12

ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
Building more shops in the worse recession since WW2 is not a good idea. Nor is building more unaffordable housing. The country needs infrastructure and the ability to produce and export.
Where is housing mentioned in this report? However, as you started it... surely any house that is sold is affordable to someone?

When I sell my (fairly large, detached) house I fully expect it to go to a growing family, releasing their, smaller, and hence more affordable, house to someone with different needs. Building larger houses, that developers can actually sell at a profit then can actually release smaller houses onto the market. The council should stick to what it does best - though I'm not too sure what exactly that is at the moment.

Magicman! says...
1:55am Fri 14 Sep 12

can we just get the poxy thing built now?!


As for jobs and suchlike, previous governments (notably more Tory ones than Labour ones) made irreversible steps to break down our manufacturing industry, and now rising powers like China make the good for appitance paid out to their workers meaning we cannot compete. We used to be at the forefront of innovation - York's railways works being one of a chain to contribute to what was a world class railway, birthing such pinnacles of technology as the Intercity 125 and the Advanced Passenger Train (granted these weren't built in York, but it was still British-made) - the latter of which had funding axed by the government of the time who then sold the technology at a cheap price to Italy, who then worked on it to get a working train and then sold said trains to us at much larger prices - and these now work on the West Coast. Short term "quick money now" thinking lost this country lots of jobs and has damaged our current economy indescribably.

TerryYork says...
12:52pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Rumors that the stadium will now be 9,000 - expandable to 15,000.

meme says...
1:21pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Remember its not York cities footie ground its a community stadium for all i dont think!!
On a more serious note we cannot compete with far east manufacturers as we have a minimum wage structure which make sour goods far more expensive. We all recall fondly when UK PLc was a thriving manufaturing economy but forget the actual state of the people who worked in those factories. Minimum wages were brought in to protect workers but ended up losing much of our industry. You cannot have it both ways ie protect everyone and compete with those who dont protect their workforce.
I wish i knew the answer but suspect there is not one and we are doomed to a slow decline until the seesaw tips the other way as we will be the poor of the world and places like China the rich, who cannot compete anymore. Its unlikely, but possible to happen.... but not in my lifetime

Even AndyD says...
1:46pm Fri 14 Sep 12

meme wrote:
Remember its not York cities footie ground its a community stadium for all i dont think!!
On a more serious note we cannot compete with far east manufacturers as we have a minimum wage structure which make sour goods far more expensive. We all recall fondly when UK PLc was a thriving manufaturing economy but forget the actual state of the people who worked in those factories. Minimum wages were brought in to protect workers but ended up losing much of our industry. You cannot have it both ways ie protect everyone and compete with those who dont protect their workforce.
I wish i knew the answer but suspect there is not one and we are doomed to a slow decline until the seesaw tips the other way as we will be the poor of the world and places like China the rich, who cannot compete anymore. Its unlikely, but possible to happen.... but not in my lifetime
Minimum wage didn't ruin our industry and labour costs were always lower in the Far East.
Our manufacturing industry largely died in the 1980s, a lot as a result of Thatcher and much of it long before min wage legislation. Furthermore, most manufacturing workers earn far more than the minimum wage, so your argument isn't really relevant. Burger flippers maybe earn £mw/hour, car production workers don't!

On a less serious note - you are also wrong about the stadium - community it is. :0)

YorkCityLuke says...
6:24pm Fri 14 Sep 12

9000 is acceptable (in fact, will probably be slightly larger than BC given that it will probably be all- seater), but 6000 is just unacceptable. Fans of the club should pressure for a larger capacity at every opportunity. I hate the idea of having a new stadium, have done from the start, but if it's going to happen at least make it something to be proud of.

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