York traffic wardens to strike

TRAFFIC wardens in York will go on strike for seven days from Monday in a row over shift changes.

UNISON claims a decision by City of York Council to switch members in its environmental enforcement and parking services section from a four-day to a five-day week to cut costs will place "even more strain" on employees.

The union said the move would lead to sickness and stress levels rising and "damage" the service, and it did not believe the changes would save money.

UNISON regional organiser Melanie Onn said: "The strike will cause major disruption to traffic management in York, but we have tried to negotiate with the council and they are flatly refusing to consider any of our alternative proposals.

"Our members have been left with no alternative but to take industrial action. These staff are often the targets of abuse and sometimes violence from some members of the public, but the job is vital to the day-to-day running of the city.

"It is change for the sake of change and will pile even more pressure on our members."

The shift changes will not alter the number of hours traffic wardens work in the space of a week, which will stay at 37. The council has said parking areas will continue to be monitored during the dispute and the city's car parks will operate as normal.

Its parking hotline, which can be contacted on 0800 138 1119, will also be in operation for residents to report parking issues while the industrial action is taking place. York has 18 traffic wardens, three of whom are not UNISON members, and the council said it would not have to draft in temporary staff from elsewhere.

Sally Burns, the authority's director of communities and neighbourhoods, said: "We have made the decision to move York's civil enforcement team to a five-day week,to enable the council to run an effective and full service across the city, despite undertaking a necessary reduction in resource.

"This decision has not been taken lightly and takes into consideration best practice models elsewhere. We have been in discussion for some time with UNISON to minimise disruption for staff ahead of the changes taking place and will continue to work with them throughout this process. However, we cannot get the city-wide coverage we need for the service we have, without moving to five days a week.”

She also said the council was "extremely disappointed" the strike was taking place and hoped to "resolve this matter as swiftly as possible".

Comments(71)

Minsterred says...
10:55am Fri 6 Jul 12

Unbelievable, imagine anyone being expected to work a 5 day week? I fully support the strike in the face of this totally unreasonable request.

bagpuss73 says...
11:04am Fri 6 Jul 12

Park where you like next week then
I might go in town for the first time in years !

Big Bad Wolf says...
11:10am Fri 6 Jul 12

Stick to your guns chaps.... Stay out as long as you can!!

RingoStarr says...
11:13am Fri 6 Jul 12

Maybe CYC can 'fine' them for being in the wrong place at the wrong time?

ian923 says...
11:21am Fri 6 Jul 12

Never heard such rubbish-lucky they have jobs. Plenty of people waiting for their vacancies.

Jazzper says...
11:22am Fri 6 Jul 12

bagpuss73 wrote:
Park where you like next week then
I might go in town for the first time in years !
Beware...this might be just a ploy to rake in more money. Merritt and his mates might take this opportunity to go round slapping tickets on cars themselves!

Torycouncil2015 says...
11:46am Fri 6 Jul 12

Comments on here predictable. Just take a look at this before you post

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2153430/When-Aberyst
wyth-experiment-crea
ted-world-traffic-wa
rdens.html

Bin_Liner says...
11:50am Fri 6 Jul 12

ian923 wrote:
Never heard such rubbish-lucky they have jobs. Plenty of people waiting for their vacancies.
Very silly,Just because they have jobs it doesn't give their employer the right to treat them poorly and force them to work an unfair shift system. From what I've been told they work 37 hours per week over 4 days. Changing this to 5 days would mean they would be physically going to work an extra 52 days per year!
****! Think of all that extra travel/food/childcar
e(?) expense. Not to mention the extra physical/emotional strain.
Good on them for sticking together instead off letting the council roll them over!

Minsterred says...
11:59am Fri 6 Jul 12

Perhaps but the point is they will still only be expected to do a reasonable 37 hour week! Its a lot less than I and many others have to work and its not an unreasonable request by any stretch of the imagination!!

samthedog says...
12:01pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Bin_Liner wrote:
ian923 wrote:
Never heard such rubbish-lucky they have jobs. Plenty of people waiting for their vacancies.
Very silly,Just because they have jobs it doesn't give their employer the right to treat them poorly and force them to work an unfair shift system. From what I've been told they work 37 hours per week over 4 days. Changing this to 5 days would mean they would be physically going to work an extra 52 days per year!
****! Think of all that extra travel/food/childcar

e(?) expense. Not to mention the extra physical/emotional strain.
Good on them for sticking together instead off letting the council roll them over!
all together "you can't get me I'm part of the union"

Geoffers says...
12:04pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Given the choice of working 37 hours over four days or five, I know which I'd choose!

jaycee says...
12:10pm Fri 6 Jul 12

So ,taking everything into consideration ,the council is being very helpful.Instead of tramping the streets of York for 9.25 hours a day they are only asking the wardens to work 7 hours a day .A daily reduction of stress and aggravation of 24.32 %.This should reduce sickness/stress levels.

TheTruthHurts says...
12:21pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Minsterred wrote:
Perhaps but the point is they will still only be expected to do a reasonable 37 hour week! Its a lot less than I and many others have to work and its not an unreasonable request by any stretch of the imagination!!
Surely though you have chosen to work more hours than a standard week. Your employers get you to sign a form agreeing to it which you can then withdraw with a little notice. If you are self employed then it is your choice still.

Priapus says...
12:28pm Fri 6 Jul 12

TheTruthHurts wrote:
Minsterred wrote:
Perhaps but the point is they will still only be expected to do a reasonable 37 hour week! Its a lot less than I and many others have to work and its not an unreasonable request by any stretch of the imagination!!
Surely though you have chosen to work more hours than a standard week. Your employers get you to sign a form agreeing to it which you can then withdraw with a little notice. If you are self employed then it is your choice still.
Dude, the standard working week in the real-world is a lot more than 37 hours for most people.

Capt. Dobie says...
12:34pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Erm...is it about saving moneny or ensuring Traffic Warden coverage thro' the wk?

Traffic Wardens on Strike? Good- enjoy the parking while you can!

Also, not that I am a fan of the council, but the unions (again) are making noise without CYC's point being put in and filtering and 'spinning' what they want us to hear.

Everybody else on 37h 5-day weeks can manage- careful the union 'noise' doesn't ****-it-up for another union member who may benefit from this...stand-by for another union home goal.

bolero says...
12:47pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Expecting people to work 5 days a week-disgusting. Why, a lot of people don't even work 1 day. They only wish they had the opportunity.

meme says...
12:50pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Fantastic; why not get them to stay out forever I doubt anyone will even notice except we may be better off

Overproof says...
1:01pm Fri 6 Jul 12

I fully support this strike, they should stand firm and stay out on strike for as long as it takes. Forget 1 week, stay out for 2, 3, or 4 weeks or months if that it what it takes.

oldgoat says...
1:37pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Capt. Dobie wrote:
Erm...is it about saving moneny or ensuring Traffic Warden coverage thro' the wk?

Traffic Wardens on Strike? Good- enjoy the parking while you can!

Also, not that I am a fan of the council, but the unions (again) are making noise without CYC's point being put in and filtering and 'spinning' what they want us to hear.

Everybody else on 37h 5-day weeks can manage- careful the union 'noise' doesn't ****-it-up for another union member who may benefit from this...stand-by for another union home goal.
No, this is just the lazy reporting we expect by the Press these days.
They've not bothered asking the council what their position is, or exactly what they're expecting the wardens to change to and why.

Mind, you is anyone going to be beating down the door of the Chief Executive, demanding the wardens return to ticketing cars?
Will anyone notice anything different?

BioLogic says...
2:25pm Fri 6 Jul 12

The headline here should really read

"Trade Union Objects to Change...Again!"

Unison would moan at anything they consider to be new or different, even if it might actually benefit their staff. Sending Traffic Wardens out on strike is hardily going to garner public sympathy is it, and certainly not with some of the horrid characters that work in York. The old boot who works in the city centre is real piece of work that is not unknown to overstep her bounds.

Even AndyD says...
2:55pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Not often I agree with Biologic, but Unison.....pah!

R'Marcus says...
3:15pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Torycouncil2015 wrote:
Comments on here predictable. Just take a look at this before you post

http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/news/article-

2153430/When-Aberyst

wyth-experiment-crea

ted-world-traffic-wa

rdens.html
Predictable post from torycouncil2015.
I hope that he/she will not be voted in in 2015!

spiritofyork says...
3:18pm Fri 6 Jul 12

the unions should be crushed and/or made illegal and employers should have more control over their staff. luck y to have a job so just accept whatever hours/pay/conditions you have. Thankfully with a Tory govt they'll be restricted to some extent. businesses make money, not employees.

Caecilius says...
3:40pm Fri 6 Jul 12

spiritofyork wrote:
the unions should be crushed and/or made illegal and employers should have more control over their staff. luck y to have a job so just accept whatever hours/pay/conditions you have. Thankfully with a Tory govt they'll be restricted to some extent. businesses make money, not employees.
The employees make the money for the business by doing the work - all too often, in this country, despite the contribution of the clowns, spivs or outright fraudsters who supposedly manage it. The truth of the matter is that many British businesses are lucky to have a workforce, and are so incompetently run that they can only compete in the international market by driving down the living standards of the people they employ. Which, of course, merely reflects the way the country itself is governed - particularly under a Tory government.

meme says...
4:28pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Caecilius
Come on just because some of the rotten apples are being shaken out of the barrel does not mean all companies take advantage of their customers or staff. Without people who invest in companies generally the owner then there would be no work so its a partnership and it does not matter what colour politicians run the country there are always bad apples. Interestingly these present bank/insurance etc issues took place under Labour although I doubt it would have been different under the Cons
However not everyone is bad of any political colour and you are letting your politics get the better of your common sense although i doubt you will agree!

baldiebiker says...
4:49pm Fri 6 Jul 12

As far as I know we don't have a parking warden in Selby, the streets aren't blocked with badly parked cars, so to save money sack the lot of them then they wont have to work at all and every one is a winner?

highhat says...
5:25pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Does this mean i can park outside my own house without a permit, and not expect the traffic nazis on scooters turning up 2 at a time taking pictures of my car and being .......well nazi like.............GOO
D

only human says...
6:23pm Fri 6 Jul 12

I support these blokes fully and wouldnt be in line to do their job with all the abuse and insults they face on a daily basis as they gather their stealth taxes on the publics behalf.
In a time where most european countries have cut their working week to just 35 hrs per week and reap the rewards of a better work/life balance i would also prefer a 4 day week given the option.
Many of these people are doing a job which few would undertake and if they did "replace them " and just think they would be grateful to have a job then they are naive to say the least and probably wouldnt last very long before going off sick.
It is a thankless job and i think they deserve the terms and conditions they currently enjoy and more.
Many of us make the mistake of holding the "traffic wardens" responsible for making the parking fines and rules up as though they are personally taking the collected revenues home with them.
Interestingly this is one of the few public service jobs which more than pays the wages of the people who carry out the service whilst generating a generous income for the city of york.
If we all took more effort to park sensibly and safely maybe we wouldnt need so many restrictions in place.
Lets see the chaos unfold,maybe then the public will value these blokes...They have my full support.
Its those that have flouted the laws and faced the penalties that will no doubt object to the strikes.

yawn.. says...
6:34pm Fri 6 Jul 12

..it's expected they'll have the whole of the local community behind them.

Architude says...
6:38pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Frankly I wouldn't pish on these morally bankrupt individuals if they were on fire, 90% of everything they do has more to do with malicious behaviour and money grabbing than anything useful.

Sack em, they wouldn't be missed.

areyoustupid says...
8:17pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Lol at the insult........but with spelling mistakes. Douchebag

Woody Mellor says...
8:33pm Fri 6 Jul 12

spiritofyork wrote:
the unions should be crushed and/or made illegal and employers should have more control over their staff. luck y to have a job so just accept whatever hours/pay/conditions you have. Thankfully with a Tory govt they'll be restricted to some extent. businesses make money, not employees.
You really are the scum of the earth!

winston wolf says...
9:02pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Finally free parking in the city. It might give town a fighting chance to compete against Monks Cross and Naburn now, if only for a week.

brummiebob says...
9:41pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Woody Mellor wrote:
spiritofyork wrote:
the unions should be crushed and/or made illegal and employers should have more control over their staff. luck y to have a job so just accept whatever hours/pay/conditions you have. Thankfully with a Tory govt they'll be restricted to some extent. businesses make money, not employees.
You really are the scum of the earth!
That's an insult to the scum! This individual has serious problems and has the audacity to use the name Spiritofyork, why not go for a name change? Meanspiritedb******d
ofyork?

PKH says...
9:43pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Doesn't the parking warden service operate 7 days a week? Working 4 out of 7 with weekend working is very common, why are the council trying to change it? As has already been said poor reporting by The Press with half a story yet again.

pedalling paul says...
10:01pm Fri 6 Jul 12

winston wolf wrote:
Finally free parking in the city. It might give town a fighting chance to compete against Monks Cross and Naburn now, if only for a week.
Standby for the rush....gridlock here we come!

velvetdixie says...
10:14pm Fri 6 Jul 12

Where IS Mrs. Thatcher when Britain needs her most?

NoMorePlease says...
1:15am Sat 7 Jul 12

velvetdixie wrote:
Where IS Mrs. Thatcher when Britain needs her most?
For gawds sake, we are in enough bother, It all started with her

Even AndyD says...
8:42am Sat 7 Jul 12

pedalling paul wrote:
winston wolf wrote:
Finally free parking in the city. It might give town a fighting chance to compete against Monks Cross and Naburn now, if only for a week.
Standby for the rush....gridlock here we come!
Gridlock 'here we come'? Have you not been on the outer ring-road these last twenty years or so? Gridlock has been living a happy and useful life right here for the last two decades!

JaseH says...
9:20am Sat 7 Jul 12

Before everyone thinks great free parking,dont forget the police have a duty to enforce parking laws if they can be bothered!
As for the traffic wardens I agree that working a 4 day week must be great but the rest of the full time workers in the city work an average of 5 days so what makes you so special or is it just that you had guaranteed overtime as most of you choose to work 5 days anyway.In the current economic climate you should be thankful you have a job the council could always subcontract the parking enforcement to a private firm,then where would you be!

idlehousewife says...
10:56am Sat 7 Jul 12

I don't remember the last time I saw a traffic warden in York. The day after day illegal parking in Goodramgate and in St. Sampson's square demonstrates their perpetual absence.

topumpire1 says...
11:27am Sat 7 Jul 12

Minsterred wrote:
Unbelievable, imagine anyone being expected to work a 5 day week? I fully support the strike in the face of this totally unreasonable request.
Quite right, 37 hours in 5 days instead of 4 means that the cYc HAVE to employ TWO wardens for each current man day, shifts will become half day (e.g. 7:30/8:00-2, 2 - 18:30/19:00) and have large overlap, unless the cYc is looking to EXTEND the active hours of the wardens (i.e. 7:00 21:00 (7am to 9pm)).
currently wardens seem to work FOUR * NINE hour shifts (so shift patten can be ca 8:30 - 17:30) - are the cYc extending the hours (then they need to employ more!!) I would love to see HOW the cYc think this will save money!

Sillybillies says...
11:42am Sat 7 Jul 12

Public reassured over heavy police presence

11:01am Saturday 7th July 2012 in News
A LARGE number of police units are expected on the streets of York today.

About half a dozen police vehicles are already present close to the Waggon And Horses pub in Lawrence Street, including canine units.

A North Yorkshire Police spokesman said this was not in connection with a specific incident.

He said: "The heavy police presence is expected in the Lawrence Street area throughout the day.

"This is merely a pre-planned procedural exercise, and members of the public have no need to be concerned."

Do we really need traffic wardens when the police obviously have time on their hands?

CHISSY1 says...
2:18pm Sat 7 Jul 12

Sillybillies wrote:
Public reassured over heavy police presence

11:01am Saturday 7th July 2012 in News
A LARGE number of police units are expected on the streets of York today.

About half a dozen police vehicles are already present close to the Waggon And Horses pub in Lawrence Street, including canine units.

A North Yorkshire Police spokesman said this was not in connection with a specific incident.

He said: "The heavy police presence is expected in the Lawrence Street area throughout the day.

"This is merely a pre-planned procedural exercise, and members of the public have no need to be concerned."

Do we really need traffic wardens when the police obviously have time on their hands?
You do not have a clue,do you?.
As traffic wardens,anyone that has the urge to be a one should be banned from applying.On a number of occasions i have seen one scruffy oik swaggering along Lord Mayor Walks like John Wayne.

idlehousewife says...
3:04pm Sat 7 Jul 12

Can you translate your comment into English please Chissy1?

Woody Mellor says...
4:12pm Sat 7 Jul 12

idlehousewife wrote:
Can you translate your comment into English please Chissy1?
I'm afraid he doesn't oblige. You have to translate it for yourself. I gave up way back. Good luck.

CHISSY1 says...
5:13pm Sat 7 Jul 12

Woody Mellor wrote:
idlehousewife wrote:
Can you translate your comment into English please Chissy1?
I'm afraid he doesn't oblige. You have to translate it for yourself. I gave up way back. Good luck.
Obviously two people of very low intelligence, could both be traffic wardens.

Sillybillies says...
5:16pm Sat 7 Jul 12

You do not have a clue,do you?.

More than you could possibly ever know, and your comment after that is 'non sequitur' as well as illiterate.

anistasia says...
5:37pm Sat 7 Jul 12

Capt. Dobie wrote:
Erm...is it about saving moneny or ensuring Traffic Warden coverage thro' the wk?

Traffic Wardens on Strike? Good- enjoy the parking while you can!

Also, not that I am a fan of the council, but the unions (again) are making noise without CYC's point being put in and filtering and 'spinning' what they want us to hear.

Everybody else on 37h 5-day weeks can manage- careful the union 'noise' doesn't ****-it-up for another union member who may benefit from this...stand-by for another union home goal.
another nail in the coffin don't we as council tax payers have the right to say where are money goes the council tax keeps going up and services cut so once these services are cut back the money pot should of grown but more cuts happen i think to raise the council tax is wrong if they cut school dinner ladies,school crossing patrols,funding to other worthwhile causes the money not paid to them the so called savings that we pay we should have a say because you must have spare money from the services we pay for and not getting we should have thmd right to say well put more of the tax payers money into something they would want eg extra front line police.the govenment and local govenment tell us how they are going to spend your money not asking what we want.

CHISSY1 says...
5:42pm Sat 7 Jul 12

Sillybillies wrote:
You do not have a clue,do you?.

More than you could possibly ever know, and your comment after that is 'non sequitur' as well as illiterate.
Oh dear hit a raw nerve?.Go back to your knitting you boring person.

velvetdixie says...
6:41pm Sat 7 Jul 12

Should businesses find they have more customers and are more profitable during this opportunity window then there may be no need for any traffic wardens in future. How intelligent is it to risk proving your job is expendable?

roclank2000 says...
9:35pm Sat 7 Jul 12

I love parking illegally in York, delivering a two fingered gesture to the anti-car idiots who run the town; next week I think I'll drive into town every lunchtime, park for free, run a small risk of a fine, and spend some money in the town centre that would otherwise have been spent elsewhere or not at all.

NoMorePlease says...
11:25pm Sat 7 Jul 12

roclank2000 wrote:
I love parking illegally in York, delivering a two fingered gesture to the anti-car idiots who run the town; next week I think I'll drive into town every lunchtime, park for free, run a small risk of a fine, and spend some money in the town centre that would otherwise have been spent elsewhere or not at all.
Then you are a selfish antisocial plonker who, with that attitude, probably have a very limited circle of friends worthy of the description.
Oh and before you respond with "I have lots of friends" try to understand the last sentence.

NoMorePlease says...
11:28pm Sat 7 Jul 12

CHISSY1 wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
You do not have a clue,do you?.
More than you could possibly ever know, and your comment after that is 'non sequitur' as well as illiterate.
Oh dear hit a raw nerve?.Go back to your knitting you boring person.
Don't understand Silly's response do you, so all you can say is get back to your knitting. Try and counter with similar arguments or level of reasoning

Dennis.Dart says...
8:11am Sun 8 Jul 12

First and Fore-most there is no such person as a 'traffic warden' in york any more. they are CEO's civil enforcement officer. they have no powers to stop and or direct traffic as does a traffic warden.
other than this will we even notice in the city centre, as you dont see any CEO's in the city centre, people park where and when they want, the loading ban in NEVER enforced in the city centre for a start.
vehicles can be seen parked in bus stops yellow lines all the time in the city and nothing is ever done,
in saying that NO EMPLOYER has the right to enforce their staff into unfair working hours.
any change in working conditons should go to a ballot,
I expect CyC has given 90 days notice to the CEO's to enforce these new working conditions.
May be the only way to get the job done right. is to do what there is in London Private enforcement officers contracted to the CyC and a Performance related pay system. this way we know any wrongly parked vehicles will be delt with

CHISSY1 says...
8:54am Sun 8 Jul 12

NoMorePlease wrote:
CHISSY1 wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
You do not have a clue,do you?.
More than you could possibly ever know, and your comment after that is 'non sequitur' as well as illiterate.
Oh dear hit a raw nerve?.Go back to your knitting you boring person.
Don't understand Silly's response do you, so all you can say is get back to your knitting. Try and counter with similar arguments or level of reasoning
The first comment i made was a quote by Billy Connolly so obviously some of boring nerds on
this site would not understand.Or maybe if i explained in Latin for the benefit of those of you who don't understand English.

Buzz Light-year says...
2:17pm Sun 8 Jul 12

anistasia wrote:
don't we as council tax payers have the right to say where are money goes


Yet again, no.
Tax is tax. It is not a retail model for goods and services.
You can't choose how much to pay or what to spend it on, it's tax.
Either pay up or make a stand and refuse payment. Those are your choices.
If you want a say you need to get yourself elected.

Why on earth don't people understand that simple thing?

Insyder says...
5:52pm Sun 8 Jul 12

Contrary to the councils statement there will be no parking enforcement during the strike. There is just one staff capable of issuing fines and he cant cover it alone whilst overseeing the emptying of the payment machines.
He also cannot work Mon-Sun 6am-9.30pm.
Even the parking supervisor has taken the week off on 'holiday'!
If you are using a car park,dont bother paying.
In fact,if you intend to park illegally at all,then dont worry,you'll not be fined.
Ring the parking hotline? Go ahead,its a freephone number, but there will be no action taken.
The police? They only deal with obstructions,eg if a car was to park blocking traffic. Even that is unheard of.
Any questions please do ask.

Insyder says...
6:16pm Sun 8 Jul 12

For those offering no sympathy, the last place the CEOs would expect it is from the public! Yes I agree totally that most people work 5 days a week.
Most of them 9-5, Mon to Fri. Possibly 2-10. Most people who work 5 days a week will have a steady,regular routine and only Mon to Fri. Even those on shifts would work flat early shifts one week and flat lates the next.
The councils proposed rota is between Mon to Sun 745-2300.

Eg. Mon 745-1515. Tue off. Wed 1600-2300. Thu 1400-2130. Fri 0745-1515. Sat off. Sun 1400-2130.

That is called Week 1.
There are 11 weeks on this shift system, all different. All as crazy as the next.

Currently the CEOs work a 4 day a week 3 week shift system between Mon to Sun 0745-2130.

CEOs are seen as the scum of society. A convicted peadophile or rapist, even a child murderer are held in a higher regard than 'traffic wardens'. This is the reality folks.

inthesticks says...
6:49pm Sun 8 Jul 12

Insyder wrote:
For those offering no sympathy, the last place the CEOs would expect it is from the public! Yes I agree totally that most people work 5 days a week.
Most of them 9-5, Mon to Fri. Possibly 2-10. Most people who work 5 days a week will have a steady,regular routine and only Mon to Fri. Even those on shifts would work flat early shifts one week and flat lates the next.
The councils proposed rota is between Mon to Sun 745-2300.

Eg. Mon 745-1515. Tue off. Wed 1600-2300. Thu 1400-2130. Fri 0745-1515. Sat off. Sun 1400-2130.

That is called Week 1.
There are 11 weeks on this shift system, all different. All as crazy as the next.

Currently the CEOs work a 4 day a week 3 week shift system between Mon to Sun 0745-2130.

CEOs are seen as the scum of society. A convicted peadophile or rapist, even a child murderer are held in a higher regard than 'traffic wardens'. This is the reality folks.
Good points and thank you for the correct information.
Now I dislike traffic wardens as much as most people, for me it is personal - to cut long story etc. I had to take a bent one to court and he ended up with egg on his face. But hey, they are doing a job dealing with the rude public just like me, so..
Surely the point is this - when you go for a job interview and they tell you that you will be working 9hrs a day from 7:45 to whatever then you are making a decision as to whether that job suits. I wouldn`t go for a job if the hours weren`t to my liking. Now the council are taking advantage of the dour economic situation, as they know employers have the upper hand at the moment, don`t mess with people like this, it`s just not right.
@spiritofyork, you so are not. People should just accept whatever pay or conditions they are offered? Get real mate, lets just make 8 year olds work 16 hour days again shall we. Thank the lord we have had unions or else I guarantee you would not have the lifestyle you have now. Some people`s ignorance knows no bounds..

lezyork1966 says...
7:14pm Sun 8 Jul 12

theres rules on working hours, number of hours between shifts, and on minimum pay, provided the new shift pattern does not breach any they should stfu and get on with it or change jobs....

if its legal/lawful why should they complain!

I think some idiot also said Sundays should be kept to different rules as someone mis-translated a myth about the sun and invented a god or something too.

NoMorePlease says...
9:56pm Sun 8 Jul 12

CHISSY1 wrote:
NoMorePlease wrote:
CHISSY1 wrote:
Sillybillies wrote:
You do not have a clue,do you?.
More than you could possibly ever know, and your comment after that is 'non sequitur' as well as illiterate.
Oh dear hit a raw nerve?.Go back to your knitting you boring person.
Don't understand Silly's response do you, so all you can say is get back to your knitting. Try and counter with similar arguments or level of reasoning
The first comment i made was a quote by Billy Connolly so obviously some of boring nerds on this site would not understand.Or maybe if i explained in Latin for the benefit of those of you who don't understand English.
Will that be middle or late Latin

Mr Crabtree says...
12:36am Mon 9 Jul 12

Buzz Light-year wrote:
anistasia wrote: don't we as council tax payers have the right to say where are money goes
Yet again, no. Tax is tax. It is not a retail model for goods and services. You can't choose how much to pay or what to spend it on, it's tax. Either pay up or make a stand and refuse payment. Those are your choices. If you want a say you need to get yourself elected. Why on earth don't people understand that simple thing?
Anistasia may not be able to dictate where her taxes are spent, but, she does however, have every right to complain, if she disagrees with how her taxes are being spent. It's what democracy is all about.

yorkborn66 says...
9:53am Mon 9 Jul 12

No traffic wardens this week, hmmm
Can we have the traffic lights turned off in the city centre this week as well?
Would be great to get from A to B without major congestion

bagpuss73 says...
10:41am Mon 9 Jul 12

Just parked for free in the centre of York and saw loads of others doing the same ... Will be interesting to see if town is any busier this week cos of the strike
I for one have come into town today to shop instead of Monks Cross because I'm taking the chance to park for free

Insyder says...
11:59am Mon 9 Jul 12

bagpuss73 wrote:
Just parked for free in the centre of York and saw loads of others doing the same ... Will be interesting to see if town is any busier this week cos of the strike
I for one have come into town today to shop instead of Monks Cross because I'm taking the chance to park for free
Good on ya! Enjoy it whilst you can.
Like i said,there is no risk as there is nobody to fine you.
I still saw people paying £2.20 an hour today on Castle car park!

Pete the Brickie says...
3:52pm Mon 9 Jul 12



Insyder says...
11:59am Mon 9 Jul 12

Good on ya! Enjoy it whilst you can.
Like i said,there is no risk as there is nobody to fine you.
I still saw people paying £2.20 an hour today on Castle car park!



I would advise against following the above advice.

It wouldn't surprise me if the council were to simply employ a private contractor or use an agency to cover its own car parks for the duration of the strike and the police and pcsos will still be issuing tickets on the public highway.

Insyder says...
4:59pm Mon 9 Jul 12

Sorry,not true, stop scaremongering.
Police and Pcso's do not deal with parking offences since it became decriminalised unless it is an 'obstruction' eg a vehicle blocking the road.
The council are not using private staff as cover, they even stated this in the article above.

Pete the Brickie says...
8:46am Tue 10 Jul 12

Insyder wrote:
Sorry,not true, stop scaremongering.
Police and Pcso's do not deal with parking offences since it became decriminalised unless it is an 'obstruction' eg a vehicle blocking the road.
The council are not using private staff as cover, they even stated this in the article above.
No problem, as long as you are prepared to settle the fines of anyone who follows your advice?

dogcapp says...
10:18am Tue 10 Jul 12

I don`t understand why a traffic warden should suffer stress and abuse, unless they slip up. Only ticket unattended cars. Get the ticket sorted, out of sight and then run to the vehicle, slap on the ticket and run like bell. Simple, but clever eh?? Slap a few tickets on a few cyclists to get the bonus up, eh what??

Razzeldazzle says...
3:16pm Thu 12 Jul 12

pedalling paul wrote:
winston wolf wrote:
Finally free parking in the city. It might give town a fighting chance to compete against Monks Cross and Naburn now, if only for a week.
Standby for the rush....gridlock here we come!
Oh Paul please. The only thing we need to avoid gridlock is for the council traffic lights to go on strike for a week at the same time. As we know it is the lights that cause the queues not the volume of traffic this being clearly demonstrated by the second sneaky, and to my knowledge unannounced, change to the lights at Clifton Green now allowing more than six cars to pass at each green phase reducing the queues dramatically.

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