Parish council's ‘village green’ Park&Ride plan anger (From York Press)

One wonders whether any villagers have actually used this peripheral "green" which is separated from the village by the A59. There is a much more formal "green" in the village centre. Do I recall seeing a maypole on it?
Yes the Parish Council should be fully and formally consulted, but I think that there is an overriding need to give Poppleton residents a high quality alternative to the car, for short distance commuting into York. This of course includes a "Pedal & Ride"option, as the new P&R will have signalled routes across the A59 with separate on-site cycle access and racks.
Betcha a good few Poppleton residents will be oiling up their bike chains in months to come....

Instead of investing in buses why not trams at poppleton. I think the train is hourly from York so why not use the rail to its full potential. Park and Rail maybe? no adding bus lanes no adding more vehicles. Just a thought. By the way P.P. no need to mark my spelling like a teacher, if you dissagree dont be so pathetic as to say the comment must be bad because of spelling mistake.

OOoh Matron.....!
By the way, the BBC website is running a story about a new agreement between Bus operators in York, for a unified through ticketing system. Will we see it on The Press website before the day is out....?

who are ya wrote:
Instead of investing in buses why not trams at poppleton. I think the train is hourly from York so why not use the rail to its full potential. Park and Rail maybe? no adding bus lanes no adding more vehicles. Just a thought. By the way P.P. no need to mark my spelling like a teacher, if you dissagree dont be so pathetic as to say the comment must be bad because of spelling mistake.

Now that would be far too senisible and far too logical....but people that live in these places have to accept expansion...its inevitable.

who are ya wrote:
Instead of investing in buses why not trams at poppleton. I think the train is hourly from York so why not use the rail to its full potential. Park and Rail maybe? no adding bus lanes no adding more vehicles. Just a thought. By the way P.P. no need to mark my spelling like a teacher, if you dissagree dont be so pathetic as to say the comment must be bad because of spelling mistake.

Think this would be a very good idea. But at the meeting last week regarding phase 1 of the A59 bus corridor, this question was asked and the reply was something like, "The people of Poppleton won't like that". But it seem that the residents of Boroughbridge Road and Poppleton Road would like a bus lane built near their houses! NOT!! The bus corridors estimated cost is around £925,000 and the estimate time saved on a journey, that assuming the P&R doesnt get caught behind a number 10 at the bus stop collecting passenger, will be 4 minutes and 44 seconds over all 3 phases.

Complete waste of money and you should see the dangerous layout.

Stop the implementation of this proposed bus lanes, email your objections to;- mark.reade@york.gov.
uk or ben.potter@york.gov.
uk

Spencer69 wrote:

who are ya wrote:
Instead of investing in buses why not trams at poppleton. I think the train is hourly from York so why not use the rail to its full potential. Park and Rail maybe? no adding bus lanes no adding more vehicles. Just a thought. By the way P.P. no need to mark my spelling like a teacher, if you dissagree dont be so pathetic as to say the comment must be bad because of spelling mistake.

Think this would be a very good idea. But at the meeting last week regarding phase 1 of the A59 bus corridor, this question was asked and the reply was something like, "The people of Poppleton won't like that". But it seem that the residents of Boroughbridge Road and Poppleton Road would like a bus lane built near their houses! NOT!! The bus corridors estimated cost is around £925,000 and the estimate time saved on a journey, that assuming the P&R doesnt get caught behind a number 10 at the bus stop collecting passenger, will be 4 minutes and 44 seconds over all 3 phases.

Complete waste of money and you should see the dangerous layout.

Stop the implementation of this proposed bus lanes, email your objections to;- mark.reade@york.gov.

uk or ben.potter@york.gov.

uk

Before you dive in headfirst, check out similar bus gating arrangements along the inbound side of Hull Road. They work without controversy and give the P&R a competitive time saving edge over private car journeys.

pedalling paul wrote:

Spencer69 wrote:

who are ya wrote:
Instead of investing in buses why not trams at poppleton. I think the train is hourly from York so why not use the rail to its full potential. Park and Rail maybe? no adding bus lanes no adding more vehicles. Just a thought. By the way P.P. no need to mark my spelling like a teacher, if you dissagree dont be so pathetic as to say the comment must be bad because of spelling mistake.

Think this would be a very good idea. But at the meeting last week regarding phase 1 of the A59 bus corridor, this question was asked and the reply was something like, "The people of Poppleton won't like that". But it seem that the residents of Boroughbridge Road and Poppleton Road would like a bus lane built near their houses! NOT!! The bus corridors estimated cost is around £925,000 and the estimate time saved on a journey, that assuming the P&R doesnt get caught behind a number 10 at the bus stop collecting passenger, will be 4 minutes and 44 seconds over all 3 phases.

Complete waste of money and you should see the dangerous layout.

Stop the implementation of this proposed bus lanes, email your objections to;- mark.reade@york.gov.


uk or ben.potter@york.gov.


uk

Before you dive in headfirst, check out similar bus gating arrangements along the inbound side of Hull Road. They work without controversy and give the P&R a competitive time saving edge over private car journeys.

Have you seen the proposed A59 bus corridor? Guessing not. It will be very dangerous to cyclists and pedestrians, particularly young children going to and from school, if it is implemented. It will be more dangerous that the bus lane that was removed from Fulford Road back in 2010. SAFETY has to come before an ESTIMATED!!4 minute 44second time saving.

Yep, I totally agree with the Park and Rail option on the A59, it would be a much more greener option and would be more sustainable, maximising the rail service to the city. And this would allow for less buses cluttering up York's road system.
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I used to cycle down Boroughbridge Road/Water Lane/Leeman Road into town from Poppleton but the painted cycle lane on the edge of the road is totally inadequate and unsafe. I'm surprised that PP, a keen cyclist, hasn't recognised that.

here we go again... another development, another so-called "village green" getting in the way. This was tried for Osbaldwick, it's got in the way of a proper traffic management solution at Water End, and now the same status for what is essentially abandoned land may get in the way of something people actually use.

Whilst tram-trains have yet to be put into use on the UK Rail network (Sheffield-rotherham
), a "park and glide" option would make much more sense and would give reliable timings for the people actually using the service - because let's face it, the bus times from 3pm onward are going to be erratic due to the huge level of congestion York has due to everybody still driving everywhere.
The council can't even shoehorn in cycle lanes along the A59 that fullfil DfT guidelines (the lanes are too narrow), so how on earth are they going to fit in bus lanes??