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The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh with the Archbishop and Dean of York.
7.00pm - Thank you everyone for the tweets, pics and feedback on this fantastic day for York. We're leaving the live coverage now but have added more stories, pics and a video to the homepage.
5.20pm - The Royal visitors were presented with locally-made chocolates on their visit to York today. On twitter, @yorkcocoahouse has said they made moulds from the Civic chains of office and used Nicaraguan chocolate, and a 120-year-old Terry's recipe.
They also tweet: "Prince Phillip has taken 2 of our chocolates for the trip home wrapped up in a napkin. The Queen told the Lord Mayor she wasn't sharing!"
See their fantastic creation here
4.10pm - A winner of The Press Community Pride Award, Paisley Laws, has spoken about her lunch with the royal party at the Mansion House. Paisley, 18, winner of the spirit of youth award, said she was seated next to Princess Beatrice. She said: “It was a brilliant meal. She talked to me about skiing and family. She told me she had given up chocolate for Lent and asked me about college. She was really nice.
“I will remember it forever, it was an overwhelming experience, I had to remind myself it was real.”
4.02pm - There were around 15,000 people on the streets of the city today. That's the official estimate from City of York Council.
3.45pm - The Queen has left York by helicopter, after a wonderful five hours in the city.
3.10pm - Joiner John Strang has travelled all the way from Dunfermline in Scotland to be in York today. He says: "We saw the Queen at the station and then at the Minster. We came down especially for her visit and it's been brilliant. I think the Queen should do this sort of stuff more often."
3.08pm - Our reporters in St Helen's Square, Tara Hutchinson and Hannah Bryan, have been chatting to some people who spoke to The Queen.
Iris Halfpenny, from Leicester, said she wished Her Majesty a Happy Easter and gave her a card, and received a smile in return. Rosie Hobson, from Harrogate, gave the Queen some pink flowers and was thanked. Other well-wishers spoke to Beatrice and wished her a Happy Easter.
3.00pm - The Queen has presented York with a new "cap of maintenance," the city council say. York has had such a cap since 1393, and it represents the city's prestige and status. When King Richard II presented the first cap, he said it must not be taken off "before King or God".
2.48pm - The Queen is now on her way to Museum Gardens, says our roving reporter Mike Renton.
2.20pm - There's even a giant cardboard cut-out Queen in St Helen's Square. The crowds would much rather see the real one though!
2.20pm - Hundreds of people are gathered now outside the Mansion House in York, hoping to catch a glimpse of the Queen when she leaves. The flag-sellers are doing a roaring trade it seems!
1.20pm - We've a dedicated picture gallery with dozens of fantastic images from today. Click here to view them.
12.57pm - Mike Renton, outside the Minster for us, says: "The Queen, who has been in the Minster waiting for it to be cleared, passes the crowds in convoy after her first Maundy visit since 1972."
12.30pm - The Queen leaves York Minster and greets crowds at great West door. Eileen Forth, 66, of Huntington, had been waiting since 6.30am to see the Queen with her daughter and grand children. She said: "I have met the Queen before because I have worked on 11 garden parties as a waitress. She shook my hand and asked where I was from."
12.20pm - More enthusiasm over on twitter as the day's festivities continue. York Cocoa House in Blake Street tweeted: "We're getting in the spirit, our Michelle is waving her flag & offering chocolate #QueenYork & #yorkchocolatefestival". See their picture here
12.10pm - It's been a wonderful day of ceremony and celebration in York today - and in glorious sunshine too. Council chief executive Kersten England gave the formal proclamation welcoming the Queen into the city, and she then proceeded through Micklegate Bar to a rapturous welcome. Mrs England was evidently looking forward to it. This morning, she tweeted: "Beautiful day - 'Let's get this party started' in the immortal words of Pink! #QueenYork"
11.56am - At the Minster, our reporter Kate Liptrot says the Maundy Money has now all been distributed. There were 172 recipients in all - 86 men and 86 women, to represent the Queen's age, 86. Each recipient received two purses, one white and one red. The white one contains the Maundy Money coins and the red one contains a £5 coin and a 50p coin.
11.55am - Over on twitter, York Brewery say they have been to the Mansion House to leave some bottled beer for the Royals. Local confectioners have also produced chocolates for the Queen - what better souvenir of York could you ask for?
11.50am - The crowds have been dispersing at Micklegate, but the new Micklegate Quarter team have organised a fun street-party for the rest of the day, if you're in the area.
11.35am - Paul Bryan a surveyor for English Heritage from Thirsk, said: "I have never seen so many people in Micklegate before, the place was awash with colour and genuine excitement.
Although I have been fortunate enough to meet the Queen and Royal family before at Windsor Castle, it was great to see her Royal smile again and she obviously likes coming to York.
11.18am - Kayleigh Flanagon and Ella, both 12 and from York, were at the front of the barriers in Micklegate. Kayleigh says the Queen looked very nice . The girls were there from 9am and said: “She smiled at us both.”
11.15am Princess Beatrice is wearing a dark blue and white hat with a veil. The Queen is wearing an Angela Kelly turquoise and white day dress incorporating turquoise and fawn flecks, hand covered silk buttons and a hat in the same colours.
11.05amThey’ve come from far and wide to see the Queen today. Jen Lawson, 35, from Washington in the USA, says: “I’ve seen your Queen five times! I just love the way everybody gets excited about her. In America, we think she’s great!”
Jim Coldwell, from Knaresborough, says: “I got here three hours ago to make sure I had a good spot. I was in Manchester when she visited but never got a glimpse of her. It’s so great to see such celebrations for her visit to York.”
11.03am - The Queen arrives at York Minster to a loud cheer from the crowds young and old.
10.59am - Hilda Hill, 74, from Strensall arrived at Micklegate Bar at 6.15am with her granddaughters Stephanie, 23, and Natalie, 20, from Strensall. Mrs Hill said her Union Flag dated to 1972, and said people had camped out from 2am that day. “I think the Queen is marvellous,” she says.”
10.53am - She's here! The Queen has arrived at Micklegate bar. First picture, thanks to our reporter on the scene, Maxine Gordon.
10.49am The Queen's procession, including religious representatives and yeomen are gathered by the Minster's west door to await the Queen's arrival. The Dean of York said: "We are enjoying the best weather in the whole of the country here in York."
10.47am - It was a very early start indeed for Vicky Cumberland, from Escrick, and her nine-year-old granddaughter Evie, from Hemingbrough. They say they were the first to arrive at Micklegate Bar – at 5 o’clock this morning! Mrs Cumberland says: “I lived near the Bar in 1971 when the Queen visited and was pictured by the Evening press holding my son Nigel, who was two. I think the Queen is fantastic!”
10.45am - Word is that the Queen has arrived at the station, says a policeman outside the Minster.
10.40am - Speculation on what colour the Queen will be wearing today. What are your predictions?
10.35am - The atmosphere is building at Micklegate, where our reporters are out and about with the crowds. Cathy Dunn, who is on a family day out for her daughter Daisy’s sixth birthday, says, Daisy and sister Millie, eight, are very excited!
Ruby Paul is here with her daughter Jennifer, six, who is currently on a quest to find a balloon! Denise Magson, of the North College of Acupuncture on Micklegate, is offering free sessions and has family and friends round for cake. She says she was up at 6am making buns, and says: “It’s a wonderful occasion for Micklegate and York.”
10.32am - Helicopter overhead at Minster. Union flags everywhere. A real buzz outside. The yeoman in red traditional costume have just paraded in to the Minster. Outside, our man Mike Renton says: "The atmosphere is electric, with thousands waving flags and banners."
10.30am - Jane Hamilton and her son Bob, both from Wigan, are on holiday in York. Jane says: "It's the first time Bob has seen Royalty - it's very exciting."
10.25am - The Royal Car is ready and waiting at York Station, ahead of the Queen’s arrival. Picture courtesy of @johngelson from @eastcoastuk on twitter.
10.20am - Mathew Greenwood, York tour guide, standing at Micklegate Bar, said: "It's the first I've ever seen the Queen in York I have seen her in London when it was the Queen Mother's 100th birthday and that was amazing, but this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to see her in York and I'm very excited."
10.10am - Jayne Mason, at the Fancy Dance Shop in Micklegate, says business is booming. "We've been open since 7am and we've had loads of people buying Union Flag fancy dress stuff. It's so exciting to have the Queen come to York, especially on such a lovely day."
10.05am - Lots of children have brought flowers, which they hope to present to the Royal visitors. Charlotte and Edgar, four and two, are here with their grandmother Margaret Eastwood, from Pocklington. She said: "They have two bouquets, one for the Queen and one for Beatrice, so hopefully they'll get to give them to them. They're very excited."
Olivia May, nine, is also on Micklegate with her gran, Patricia May. Olivia says: "We've got flowers to give the Queen from my granny's florist. I'm really, really, really excited - I've not seen the Queen before in my life."
10.00am - Minster almost full. Air of expectation. Maundy money being laid out on tables. Police with metal detectors checking the crowds as they come in.
9.50am - Hundreds of people are at Micklegate Bar area already, with the crowds three deep. And it's still an hour before the Queen arrives.
9.45am - There are loads of children out and about in town, waving flags and enjoying the occasion. At the Minster, Megan Beard, seven, from Stamford Bridge, told our reporter Kate: "I am here with my grandparents. I've never seen the Queen before and I really want to see her. I also want to see Princess Beatrice."
Over on Micklegate, little Kate Newton, four, from Heworth, says: "I am really, really, really excited about seeing the Queen. I was not sure I wanted to come this morning because I had tummy-ache, but I am glad I came. I think she will be wearing blue, becuse it is my favourite colour."
9.40am - Mark Chapman, 44, from Micklefield, says: "I think it's a very special occasion, the Queen coming to York. It's a beautiful day and I thought I would maike the most of it. We don't know when she will come to York again, so I did not want to msis the opportunity to be here."
9.35am - This is the first time for 40 years that the Queen has distributed her Maundy Money in York. We've a fantastic picture gallery from the 1972 service here.
9.30am - Over on twitter, the #queenyork hashtag is being well used. @iang_york says: "Just come through city centre to the Guildhall - city looking fab and a real buzz about the place. #QueenYork"
9.20am - Excitement is mounting on Micklegate, says our reporter Maxine. People are already lining the streets at the Bar, a full 90 minutes before Her Majesty's arrival. At Holy Trinity Church, some civil war enthusiasts have donned fancy dress for the occasion. You can see Maxine's tweets from Micklegate at @maxineygordon
9.10am - Our reporter Kate at the Minster says the atmosphere is building, and the tourists are intrigued. Tyler Swagerman, 27, from Chicago, is here with his wife Jenny, 25. He says: "We are mostly curious but maybe a bit jealous, because we do not have anything like this in the States. We're really excited."
9.00am - What a glorious day for the Queen's visit. After the bitter cold yesterday, the sun is shining again. Remember, we'd love to see your pics and updates throughout the day too. Keep them coming!
8.40am: Crowds gathering outside York Minster - about 100 in the crowd already including a lady who is decorated in Union flags Louise Robson, 32, a teacher from South Bank, wearing a hat made by Quinnell-Hill Miliners originally made for the Royal wedding last summer.
She said: "I'm here to see the Queen, I love the Queen. I have seen her a couple of times before. I was here in 2000 when she came to York." Jo Jones, 39, from Huntington, with her children Sam, nine, Annie, six.
Jo said: "We thought it was a once in a lifetime opportunity and a memory for the kids and I have never seen the Queen before." Sarah Shaw, 27, from Bubwith, a museum consultant is with her husband Robert, 32, an electronic engineer.
She said: "We think the Queen is lovely and we are having a jubilee party and we have never seen her before.We think it's really nice she has come to York."
6.00am Good morning on an historic day for York! Thousands of people are expected to line the streets today, as The Queen visits the city for the first time since 2005.
We'll have reporters at Micklegate Bar and York Minster, and also out and about with the crowds around the city, and will be bringing you live rolling coverage here throughout the day.
We'd love to hear your comments as well, and to see any pictures you snap as the day unfolds. You can comment below or send your words or pictures to us on newsdesk@thepress.co.uk or on twitter @yorkpress
Comments(82)
redrrr
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11:46am Thu 5 Apr 12
HeidTheBa'
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11:49am Thu 5 Apr 12
redrrr wrote:Yes, and the democratically elected, self serving, greedy mendacious, vermin who style themselves politicians and who appear to believe that they have the power of life and death over the people who elect them have served this country so well down the years haven't they?
What a shame that a whole new generation are being encouraged to bow and curtsey to an archaic, unelected, unaccountable head of state thereby prolonging the totally undemocratic and unethical belief that some are born to rule and others to serve. I hope the kids involved enjoy their day but I hope as they grow they will begin to question their parents misguided values.
redrrr
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11:57am Thu 5 Apr 12
HeidTheBa' wrote:I’m certainly not going to defend corrupt politicians. The point is that the people have the right to remove them from office, that’s democracy. They do not however have the right to remove the monarch or the lords or the aristocracy as they are not elected so we cannot call ourselves a democracy.
redrrr wrote:Yes, and the democratically elected, self serving, greedy mendacious, vermin who style themselves politicians and who appear to believe that they have the power of life and death over the people who elect them have served this country so well down the years haven't they?
What a shame that a whole new generation are being encouraged to bow and curtsey to an archaic, unelected, unaccountable head of state thereby prolonging the totally undemocratic and unethical belief that some are born to rule and others to serve. I hope the kids involved enjoy their day but I hope as they grow they will begin to question their parents misguided values.
Mentos
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11:58am Thu 5 Apr 12
They cancel each other out as a principle of argument.
What is left is this: in a democracy you should be able to elect your Head of State. The Queen is the best of her kind but there should not be her kind
The Grim Reaper
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12:03pm Thu 5 Apr 12
sheps lad wrote:And how many generations did it take for your family to become British? We are all descended from "immigrants" in this country. The system we have may not be perfect, but it works relatively well. And be very careful what you wish for, you may just get it.
Captain Caveman himself wrote: In einer Sprache, dass sie verstehen: Sie sind nicht die britischen königlichen Familie änderten sie dort Namen von Sachsen-Coburg nach Windsor im Jahre 1917. Wenn Sie denken, sie bieten ein gutes Preis-Leistungs-Verh ältnis Sie werden getäuscht. Sie werden zu Hause fühlen werden unter der faschistischen Diktatur Politik Hier Cameron und Clegg. In a language that you will understand: They are not the British Royal family they changed there name from Saxe-Coburg to Windsor in 1917. If you think they offer good value for money you are deluded. They will be feeling at home under the facist dictatorship policies of Hier Cameron and Clegg.GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!
meme
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12:11pm Thu 5 Apr 12
In fact I will pay your train ticket back to Germany so long as you promise NEVER EVER to return and disgrace our shores again
Yorkresi
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12:12pm Thu 5 Apr 12
redrrr
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12:20pm Thu 5 Apr 12
meme wrote:Personally I’m very happy to be British thanks so I’ll be staying. Having said that I will also be speaking up, as is my democratic right, when I believe something is wrong with my country. If you don’t like freedom of speech may I suggest you leave.
She is fantastic and I welcome her here and if you dont want to live in a monarchy you are more than free to leave, preferably today!
In fact I will pay your train ticket back to Germany so long as you promise NEVER EVER to return and disgrace our shores again
MrChuckles
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12:59pm Thu 5 Apr 12
FulfordMick
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1:05pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Too many people confuse "the monarch" with "the monarchy" and use their admiration of Elisabeth Windsor as a way to justify having a monarchy. I suspect it will be different when Charles gets the job...
YorkCityLuke
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1:18pm Thu 5 Apr 12
YorkCityLuke
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1:18pm Thu 5 Apr 12
alfie
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1:52pm Thu 5 Apr 12
who are ya
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2:01pm Thu 5 Apr 12
The Grim Reaper
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2:08pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Petal48
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2:09pm Thu 5 Apr 12
mrsbump
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2:16pm Thu 5 Apr 12
YorkCityLuke
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2:25pm Thu 5 Apr 12
FulfordMick wrote:Harry making lasting ties with Jamaica? The Queen maintaining strong links with Australia and the US? Philip campaigning for the regeneration of decaying urban areas in the UK? So what if they make mistakes, they're still human. Even in the short term, think of the money they're bringing into York today alone!
YorkCityLuke says... "Well, since the Queen (and the Royal Family more generally)...are the very best ambassadors for our country"
Really? Harry in a Nazi outfit?
idlehousewife
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2:34pm Thu 5 Apr 12
FulfordMick
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2:44pm Thu 5 Apr 12
For me, it's the concept of a monarchy that I hate - the idea that one person (or one family) is somehow "better" than the rest of us, just by accident of birth.
No monarchist has ever been able to convince me that this concept is justifiable in a modern democracy.
Head of Bomber Command
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2:55pm Thu 5 Apr 12
God Save The Queen.
FulfordMick
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2:58pm Thu 5 Apr 12
yorkborn66
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2:59pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Royalist or not, I don’t think many people could do what she has achieved for the UK. What happens in the future after our Queen is another issue, but the thought of living in a Republic? , President Cameron, no thank you.
From what I could see, everyone enjoyed today, communities coming together, cannot be a bad thing!
If you haven’t got a good thing to say about today , keep your thoughts to yourself , because our Queen does more good than you may know !
NoNewsIsGoodNews
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3:03pm Thu 5 Apr 12
No problems whatsoever with the P&R buses getting in and out of York.
FulfordMick
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3:09pm Thu 5 Apr 12
(And you can't stop free speech, which is what you're trying to do in the last paragraph).
Kevin Turvey
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3:10pm Thu 5 Apr 12
I love the Queen and will defend her and what she stands for. All the post's on here remind me of just what she does stand for, freedom of speech, the right to choose, expression of opinions. God Save The Queen.’
I agree whole heartiley, but you are not the Head of Bomber Command as that was wound up in 1968 and at the time the man in charge was Air Marshal Sir Wallace Kyle.
Now he died on 31st January 1988 in Hampshire, also he was my great uncle so I know its not you.
You Sir are an imposter.
Head of Bomber Command
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3:13pm Thu 5 Apr 12
yorkborn66 wrote:Well said yorkborn66. Today has been a happy day for thousands of people from all over the country. There is more than enough bad news these days, it is good to hear people have actually enjoyed themselves for once. I too am glad that our most wonderful head of state has been able to visit our fair City along with Prince Philip and Princess Beatrice. I hope she goes on long enough to receive a telegram from herself upon reaching the age of 100.
The Queen and the Duke and Princess Beatrice came to York today, and made allot of people happy. At 85, The Queen is more up to date with current affairs and the true problems in this country, than the politicians and Prime ministers that she has and had to meet every week. She has dedicated her life to serve her Country, with dignity, putting her job first before herself.
Royalist or not, I don’t think many people could do what she has achieved for the UK. What happens in the future after our Queen is another issue, but the thought of living in a Republic? , President Cameron, no thank you.
From what I could see, everyone enjoyed today, communities coming together, cannot be a bad thing!
If you haven’t got a good thing to say about today , keep your thoughts to yourself , because our Queen does more good than you may know !
God save the Queen.
Head of Bomber Command
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3:16pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Kevin Turvey wrote:You Sir are an idiot of the highest order.
‘Head of Bomber Command says... 2:55pm Thu 5 Apr 12
I love the Queen and will defend her and what she stands for. All the post's on here remind me of just what she does stand for, freedom of speech, the right to choose, expression of opinions. God Save The Queen.’
I agree whole heartiley, but you are not the Head of Bomber Command as that was wound up in 1968 and at the time the man in charge was Air Marshal Sir Wallace Kyle.
Now he died on 31st January 1988 in Hampshire, also he was my great uncle so I know its not you.
You Sir are an imposter.
oscarz
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3:47pm Thu 5 Apr 12
yorkborn66
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3:49pm Thu 5 Apr 12
FulfordMick wrote:The only reason YOU have free speech is because I like many of my colleges swore to serve Queen and Country, like generations before us.
Well, yornborn66, in a republic if you didn't want President Cameron you could vote him out. You can't vote out an unpopular monarch!
(And you can't stop free speech, which is what you're trying to do in the last paragraph).
I don’t have a problem with your opinion , but a least let the people of York enjoy their day !
yorkborn66
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3:58pm Thu 5 Apr 12
oscarz wrote:well said !
May God Save The Queen, she looked stunning and radiant and this is such a happy memorable day for our Great City(and before anyone slags me off) Why do certain people always have to bemoan everything that is so positive and adds colour, pagentry and more great history to this wonderful City Of York. Well done to all involved especially all the amazing work done by the staff at the Minster and those involved in any way which went to make this day a great success.
redrrr
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4:04pm Thu 5 Apr 12
yorkborn66 wrote:Try reading a little history yorkborn66.
FulfordMick wrote:The only reason YOU have free speech is because I like many of my colleges swore to serve Queen and Country, like generations before us.
Well, yornborn66, in a republic if you didn't want President Cameron you could vote him out. You can't vote out an unpopular monarch!
(And you can't stop free speech, which is what you're trying to do in the last paragraph).
I don’t have a problem with your opinion , but a least let the people of York enjoy their day !
Paul Hepworth
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4:08pm Thu 5 Apr 12
yorkborn66
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4:19pm Thu 5 Apr 12
redrrr wrote:I know my History, but it is now 2012, how far would you like me to go back!
yorkborn66 wrote:Try reading a little history yorkborn66.
FulfordMick wrote:The only reason YOU have free speech is because I like many of my colleges swore to serve Queen and Country, like generations before us.
Well, yornborn66, in a republic if you didn't want President Cameron you could vote him out. You can't vote out an unpopular monarch!
(And you can't stop free speech, which is what you're trying to do in the last paragraph).
I don’t have a problem with your opinion , but a least let the people of York enjoy their day !
My opinion (freedom of speech) is only a fool looks back.
I will not treat you with contempt but if our Queen was a PLC, she alone has brought more business and exports for this country than any other monarch. Lets forget tourism and all the other spin off's, what the state has paid over the years, if you like as a wage to our Queen is nothing compared to what our Queen has done for export. Fact. Check your history!
Like I said before , at least let the people of York enjoy their day without anti monarch comments , the majority of which are uneducated clap trap .
Burnholme lad
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4:29pm Thu 5 Apr 12
mrsbump wrote:I have no problem with the Monarchy, I think it's good to see them. I do agree with mrsbump though. How can we as a city afford this when we are closing the waste site and also trying their hardest to close Burnholme Community College. Surely money could be better spent. Is childrens education worth less than a visit by the Queen ?
Its a shame that City of York Council neglected to update their website to tell people what roads were to be closed. I have to use public transport when I am at work in the City and when I arrived at the Station I was told that there was a blanket ban on all traffic because of this. Not happy, it cost me £15 to get to work, by taxi, as there was no bus. I was told also to expect the same when I left at 6pm. Who will refund me the £30 that it will of cost to get to and from the station? No-one I expect but that's ok as its brought tourists to the streets. Shame that City of York Council didn't think about the residents/commuters but then why am I suprised. They are closing a waste disposal site because of monetary cuts but can spend £257,000 on "doing up" York for this visit. I am so glad I don't live here anymore. Mind Harrogate Council aren't much better.
yorkborn66
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4:31pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Head of Bomber Command wrote:God Save the Queen.
yorkborn66 wrote:Well said yorkborn66. Today has been a happy day for thousands of people from all over the country. There is more than enough bad news these days, it is good to hear people have actually enjoyed themselves for once. I too am glad that our most wonderful head of state has been able to visit our fair City along with Prince Philip and Princess Beatrice. I hope she goes on long enough to receive a telegram from herself upon reaching the age of 100.
The Queen and the Duke and Princess Beatrice came to York today, and made allot of people happy. At 85, The Queen is more up to date with current affairs and the true problems in this country, than the politicians and Prime ministers that she has and had to meet every week. She has dedicated her life to serve her Country, with dignity, putting her job first before herself.
Royalist or not, I don’t think many people could do what she has achieved for the UK. What happens in the future after our Queen is another issue, but the thought of living in a Republic? , President Cameron, no thank you.
From what I could see, everyone enjoyed today, communities coming together, cannot be a bad thing!
If you haven’t got a good thing to say about today , keep your thoughts to yourself , because our Queen does more good than you may know !
God save the Queen.
Mr Anderson
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4:43pm Thu 5 Apr 12
yorkborn66
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4:52pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Burnholme lad wrote:I constantly if you wish badmouth City of York Council, for their decisions on cuts and spending. I am disgusted with the issues regarding Burnholme School.
mrsbump wrote:I have no problem with the Monarchy, I think it's good to see them. I do agree with mrsbump though. How can we as a city afford this when we are closing the waste site and also trying their hardest to close Burnholme Community College. Surely money could be better spent. Is childrens education worth less than a visit by the Queen ?
Its a shame that City of York Council neglected to update their website to tell people what roads were to be closed. I have to use public transport when I am at work in the City and when I arrived at the Station I was told that there was a blanket ban on all traffic because of this. Not happy, it cost me £15 to get to work, by taxi, as there was no bus. I was told also to expect the same when I left at 6pm. Who will refund me the £30 that it will of cost to get to and from the station? No-one I expect but that's ok as its brought tourists to the streets. Shame that City of York Council didn't think about the residents/commuters but then why am I suprised. They are closing a waste disposal site because of monetary cuts but can spend £257,000 on "doing up" York for this visit. I am so glad I don't live here anymore. Mind Harrogate Council aren't much better.
My daughter was educated there, and is now at University.
I have commented negatively on York resting its laurels on Tourism, but today I cannot fault City of York Council and everyone else, the traders of Micklegate, I wish to give a star mention.
The Queens visit has put York on the global map again, you only have to look at citizens of the USA that are mad on our Queen, not to mention other countries.
I hate to say it, but on this occasion its money well spent, considering the extra tourism this will generate leading up to summer. On a global scale, it has cost a fraction of the cost of advertising York.
FulfordMick
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4:54pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Well, who could possibly compete against an argument like that?
Interesting to see no pro-monarchist has tried to justify why one family is supposed to be "better" than the rest of us, so far it's all been "Ooh, it looks nice" and "It brings in tourism".
pedalling paul
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5:23pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Paul Hepworth wrote:Naw...decided to go for a peaceful bike ride instead!
Had a grand time at the Maundy service...very well organised. Went on the bus as I didn't fancy trying to park my bike anywhere nearby. I wonder if PP went as well...?
PinzaC55
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5:24pm Thu 5 Apr 12
redrrr wrote:You said everything I was going to say.
What a shame that a whole new generation are being encouraged to bow and curtsey to an archaic, unelected, unaccountable head of state thereby prolonging the totally undemocratic and unethical belief that some are born to rule and others to serve. I hope the kids involved enjoy their day but I hope as they grow they will begin to question their parents misguided values.
yorkborn66
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5:34pm Thu 5 Apr 12
FulfordMick wrote:That’s the point; in the age we live in we are all able to make a point within reason, without committing what was treason.
Yorkborn66:"Lik
e I said before , at least let the people of York enjoy their day without anti monarch comments , the majority of which are uneducated clap trap"
Well, who could possibly compete against an argument like that?
Interesting to see no pro-monarchist has tried to justify why one family is supposed to be "better" than the rest of us, so far it's all been "Ooh, it looks nice" and "It brings in tourism".
I do not mention “the family “ but it is fact that our Queen and the Duke have made directly lots of money for businesses within the UK. Our Queen whether we like it or not in financial terms is a viable and very cost effective commodity.
Are they better than us? Well yes because they bring in vast revenue, not to mention the pleasure to the majority of the citizens of the UK.
The positives far out weigh the negatives.
When in Rome.
PinzaC55
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5:41pm Thu 5 Apr 12
GoodDoc
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5:52pm Thu 5 Apr 12
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Other people are complaining that the queen has no worthwhile power, YET is unelected. Surely that makes absolute sense? Why on earth would you want to elect a royal family?
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I'm no royalist, but I'm not naive enough to ignore the massive wealth that the royal family bring to the country. She doesn't affect your life in any meaningful way, so hows about letting people enjoy the pomp and circumstance of this kind of occasion, if that's their wish.
yorkborn66
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5:55pm Thu 5 Apr 12
GoodDoc wrote:Sense and reason restored Thank You .
It does amuse me to read the vitriolic comments of anti-royalists on here. If they felt so strongly, why would they have even clicked the link? I may as well comment on the York FC matches saying how absurd football is, and how overpaid they all are. This article and this event are clearly for those who are interested in it - not for people desperately seeking a soapbox for second-hand cliched scorn.
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Other people are complaining that the queen has no worthwhile power, YET is unelected. Surely that makes absolute sense? Why on earth would you want to elect a royal family?
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I'm no royalist, but I'm not naive enough to ignore the massive wealth that the royal family bring to the country. She doesn't affect your life in any meaningful way, so hows about letting people enjoy the pomp and circumstance of this kind of occasion, if that's their wish.
YUHatin?
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5:55pm Thu 5 Apr 12
If that's what the queen does when she comes she can visit any time as far as I'm concerned. I'm not putting the weather down to her though...
YUHatin?
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6:00pm Thu 5 Apr 12
GoodDoc wrote:Exactamundo. Especially when you consider that the other option for a constitution is basically some sort of president (i.e., politician).
It does amuse me to read the vitriolic comments of anti-royalists on here. If they felt so strongly, why would they have even clicked the link? I may as well comment on the York FC matches saying how absurd football is, and how overpaid they all are. This article and this event are clearly for those who are interested in it - not for people desperately seeking a soapbox for second-hand cliched scorn.
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Other people are complaining that the queen has no worthwhile power, YET is unelected. Surely that makes absolute sense? Why on earth would you want to elect a royal family?
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I'm no royalist, but I'm not naive enough to ignore the massive wealth that the royal family bring to the country. She doesn't affect your life in any meaningful way, so hows about letting people enjoy the pomp and circumstance of this kind of occasion, if that's their wish.
Who would be happy to see Liz replaced by a Cameron/Clegg/Miliba
nd clone?
Digeorge
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6:41pm Thu 5 Apr 12
There were many people including myself who enjoyed the day as did many others.
God Bless The Queen.
BigJon
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6:48pm Thu 5 Apr 12
mrsbump wrote:The list of road closures was on the York Council website (http://www.york.gov
Its a shame that City of York Council neglected to update their website to tell people what roads were to be closed. I have to use public transport when I am at work in the City and when I arrived at the Station I was told that there was a blanket ban on all traffic because of this. Not happy, it cost me £15 to get to work, by taxi, as there was no bus. I was told also to expect the same when I left at 6pm. Who will refund me the £30 that it will of cost to get to and from the station? No-one I expect but that's ok as its brought tourists to the streets. Shame that City of York Council didn't think about the residents/commuters but then why am I suprised. They are closing a waste disposal site because of monetary cuts but can spend £257,000 on "doing up" York for this visit. I am so glad I don't live here anymore. Mind Harrogate Council aren't much better.
.uk/transport/roads/
traffic_restrictions
/Roadworks/traffic/)
.....I actually find it more surprising that First failed put any notices on their buses about the obvious disruption the road closures would cause.
deathwatch
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6:49pm Thu 5 Apr 12
YorkCityLuke wrote:...And they cost a fortune in taxpayer's money to keep them, security, obscene wealth, etc. The money the Royal family 'bring in' to the country pales into insignificance compared to what they cost to keep them. The public get all sloppy waving flags at these out-of-touch and racist inbreeds. Look what happened when Diana died, (sorry - I meant was "accidently" killed): Loads of stupid morons weeping, wailing and "mourning" over a doe-eyed publicity seeker, who the morons had only ever really seen on TV and in the (manipulated) media. Pathetic! The Royals "promote foreign trade"? Yeah, right! That's why unemployment's peaked and manufacturing in the UK is in constant decline. Oh yes - they're doing a cracking job... Glad my taxes are supporting these wierdos. NOT!
Well, since the Queen (and the Royal Family more generally) promote foreign trade, promote internal charities, make hundreds of thousands of pounds from tourists for the good of the nation, and are the very best ambassadors for our country, I think you'd have to be pretty narrow minded to want to get rid of them. Even if you don't like the idea of a monarchy, you can't deny the utility of it.
Mentos
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7:21pm Thu 5 Apr 12
yorkborn66 wrote:"If you haven’t got a good thing to say about today , keep your thoughts to yourself "
The Queen and the Duke and Princess Beatrice came to York today, and made allot of people happy. At 85, The Queen is more up to date with current affairs and the true problems in this country, than the politicians and Prime ministers that she has and had to meet every week. She has dedicated her life to serve her Country, with dignity, putting her job first before herself. Royalist or not, I don’t think many people could do what she has achieved for the UK. What happens in the future after our Queen is another issue, but the thought of living in a Republic? , President Cameron, no thank you. From what I could see, everyone enjoyed today, communities coming together, cannot be a bad thing! If you haven’t got a good thing to say about today , keep your thoughts to yourself , because our Queen does more good than you may know !
Another Monarchist, Head of Bomber Command (who would choose that as a name) does not agree with you. He thinks she represents freedon of speech.
yorkborn66
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7:25pm Thu 5 Apr 12
deathwatch wrote:The Royal family, have to bow down to the political views of the day.
YorkCityLuke wrote:...And they cost a fortune in taxpayer's money to keep them, security, obscene wealth, etc. The money the Royal family 'bring in' to the country pales into insignificance compared to what they cost to keep them. The public get all sloppy waving flags at these out-of-touch and racist inbreeds. Look what happened when Diana died, (sorry - I meant was "accidently" killed): Loads of stupid morons weeping, wailing and "mourning" over a doe-eyed publicity seeker, who the morons had only ever really seen on TV and in the (manipulated) media. Pathetic! The Royals "promote foreign trade"? Yeah, right! That's why unemployment's peaked and manufacturing in the UK is in constant decline. Oh yes - they're doing a cracking job... Glad my taxes are supporting these wierdos. NOT!
Well, since the Queen (and the Royal Family more generally) promote foreign trade, promote internal charities, make hundreds of thousands of pounds from tourists for the good of the nation, and are the very best ambassadors for our country, I think you'd have to be pretty narrow minded to want to get rid of them. Even if you don't like the idea of a monarchy, you can't deny the utility of it.
Shame you mention Diana in this light, this is my last comment on this subject.
I have never come across so narrow minded, brainwashed, comments.
They will always be a conspiracy theory regarding Diana, same as Hanger 52, UFO's
My opinion is, if you wish to disrespect the servicemen / woman of this Country past and present, and wish to believe in ideological nonsense, up to you.
We are in the EEC , go elsewhere , that is what our Queen and the establishment has given you as an option , with freedom of speech.
Thank you to our Queen and Duke and Princess for visiting our City , to the anti royalists , be dammed , she has given this Country more than she has taken , unlike many on this forum.
Mentos
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7:31pm Thu 5 Apr 12
People hold principles dearly. I would never say BE DAMNED to a monarchist.
Woody Mellor
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8:24pm Thu 5 Apr 12
redrrr
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8:47pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Mentos wrote:Yorkborn66 has been bleating about freedom of speech all day then usually follows it by telling people who disagree with him that they shouldn’t say so. He also seems to think that if you are a democrat you must also be against the armed forces for some reason! And of course you couldn’t possibly be patriotic if you dare to question the status quo. Typical right wing claptrap. Anyhow I’m off to visit republic.org now, a much better web site.
So yorkborn66 , you say "be damned" to those who believe in a real democracy. You said your last comment, no it should not be, you should withdraw that.
People hold principles dearly. I would never say BE DAMNED to a monarchist.
MrMunchie
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8:57pm Thu 5 Apr 12
My children enjoyed seeing the Queen and it I felt very proud to be British.
yorkborn66
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9:54pm Thu 5 Apr 12
redrrr wrote:You stupid person read my posts before you comment.
Mentos wrote:Yorkborn66 has been bleating about freedom of speech all day then usually follows it by telling people who disagree with him that they shouldn’t say so. He also seems to think that if you are a democrat you must also be against the armed forces for some reason! And of course you couldn’t possibly be patriotic if you dare to question the status quo. Typical right wing claptrap. Anyhow I’m off to visit republic.org now, a much better web site.
So yorkborn66 , you say "be damned" to those who believe in a real democracy. You said your last comment, no it should not be, you should withdraw that.
People hold principles dearly. I would never say BE DAMNED to a monarchist.
Freedom of speech yes. Stupid comments without any form of intellectual substance. No. Her Majesty’s Armed Forces, swear on oath to serve Queen and Country. Not a republic as we are not!
Question and debate yes ,that is what a modern democracy has given us all.
Today was a great day for the people of York and Yorkshire to come and see our Queen, and join in the celebrations, in wonderful sunshine.
I will leave you to ponder on republic.org as you have obviously tried your best to dampen today’s festivities, but alas crashed and burned.
If you want to see real democracy go live in a Country, where you have no voice, no vote, any opinion against the establishment that is not liked can get you and your family killed.
For or against at least within reason you can say your opinion in the UK, and that did not happen by accident, so yes, be dammed!
PinzaC55
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9:56pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Ghandi said "a man can only be King when other men are prepared to kneel".
NoNewsIsGoodNews
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10:05pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Mentos
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10:13pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Woody Mellor
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10:29pm Thu 5 Apr 12
yorkborn66 wrote:yorkborn66, you are making a right fool of yourself. Stop, with what little dignity you have left.
redrrr wrote:You stupid person read my posts before you comment.
Mentos wrote:Yorkborn66 has been bleating about freedom of speech all day then usually follows it by telling people who disagree with him that they shouldn’t say so. He also seems to think that if you are a democrat you must also be against the armed forces for some reason! And of course you couldn’t possibly be patriotic if you dare to question the status quo. Typical right wing claptrap. Anyhow I’m off to visit republic.org now, a much better web site.
So yorkborn66 , you say "be damned" to those who believe in a real democracy. You said your last comment, no it should not be, you should withdraw that.
People hold principles dearly. I would never say BE DAMNED to a monarchist.
Freedom of speech yes. Stupid comments without any form of intellectual substance. No. Her Majesty’s Armed Forces, swear on oath to serve Queen and Country. Not a republic as we are not!
Question and debate yes ,that is what a modern democracy has given us all.
Today was a great day for the people of York and Yorkshire to come and see our Queen, and join in the celebrations, in wonderful sunshine.
I will leave you to ponder on republic.org as you have obviously tried your best to dampen today’s festivities, but alas crashed and burned.
If you want to see real democracy go live in a Country, where you have no voice, no vote, any opinion against the establishment that is not liked can get you and your family killed.
For or against at least within reason you can say your opinion in the UK, and that did not happen by accident, so yes, be dammed!
I'm glad that you and thousands of others had a nice day out today, but please, dont ram your beliefs down every one else's throats.
oldgoat
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10:36pm Thu 5 Apr 12
redrrr wrote:What a shame you never bother to read up on how a constitutional monarchy works.
What a shame that a whole new generation are being encouraged to bow and curtsey to an archaic, unelected, unaccountable head of state thereby prolonging the totally undemocratic and unethical belief that some are born to rule and others to serve. I hope the kids involved enjoy their day but I hope as they grow they will begin to question their parents misguided values.
The Queen does not rule, she is politically neutral, unlike an elected head of state, and has provided a point of stability over many years that you just don't get with a president.
I absolutely defend your right to say what you want and be heard. I just don't happen to agree with you!
redrrr
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10:49pm Thu 5 Apr 12
oldgoat wrote:Thank you and I defend your right to say what you like. In fact I defend everyones right. It's only the minority of pro monarchists who have said otherwise.
redrrr wrote:What a shame you never bother to read up on how a constitutional monarchy works.
What a shame that a whole new generation are being encouraged to bow and curtsey to an archaic, unelected, unaccountable head of state thereby prolonging the totally undemocratic and unethical belief that some are born to rule and others to serve. I hope the kids involved enjoy their day but I hope as they grow they will begin to question their parents misguided values.
The Queen does not rule, she is politically neutral, unlike an elected head of state, and has provided a point of stability over many years that you just don't get with a president.
I absolutely defend your right to say what you want and be heard. I just don't happen to agree with you!
yorkonafork
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11:30pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Mr Anderson wrote:I'd go along with this.
Hmmm. The Royal Family. Personally, I'll take them or leave them. But what I can't do with is all that "God save the queen, didn't she look stunning, does such a lot for our country". Bull!
I don't mind them, I understand their jobs and what they do yet still find the merry-flag wavers and people who camp out to see her for 10 seconds very weird and all a bit of a cringe.
At the end of the day 15,000 had, in their minds, a great day and enjoyed it. Why, I don't know, but I'm not going to begrudge them for it in an endless stream of debate. York was the focus for the day and that alone makes it ok with me.
Medivac
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11:30pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Oh yes and remove all the beggers too well done , top notch for a day !!!!!!
Medivac
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11:38pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Medivac wrote:Oh and as an addition for any council members reading, Micklegate was killed by the councillors driving consumers to the ring road shopping centres, how many businesses are now closed ?!?!?!? ghost street or charity shop street, tis sad to see the queens gate turn into a charnel house of shops.......
Wasn't it nice to see Yorks streets cleaned properly and all the rubbish picked up, nice to see the council do this once every 4 or 5 years !!!!!!!
Oh yes and remove all the beggers too well done , top notch for a day !!!!!!
openallhours
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11:47pm Thu 5 Apr 12
Interesting to know how much it all cost?
Mr Anderson
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8:25am Fri 6 Apr 12
openallhours
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9:18am Fri 6 Apr 12
On the other hand, I would suspect that the cost of running the 'gig' yesterday (and all of the prep before it) would be at least a few million quid. Factor in all the shoppers and all of the normal/sensible people who stayed away from York yesterday and some would argue it was probably very costly indeed.
AyoungYorkMum
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9:27am Fri 6 Apr 12
openallhours
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9:29am Fri 6 Apr 12
NoNewsIsGoodNews
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9:53am Fri 6 Apr 12
PinzaC55
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10:29am Fri 6 Apr 12
NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:Not you though. You'll be waving your little Union Jack flag which has "Made In China" in the corner.
Whats the betting that when the Olympic torch comes through York, we will be reading the same kind of miserable comments.
Woody Mellor
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12:24pm Fri 6 Apr 12
NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:It passes right in front of my house!
Whats the betting that when the Olympic torch comes through York, we will be reading the same kind of miserable comments.
(Where I'll be waiting with a fire extinguisher)
NoNewsIsGoodNews
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12:47pm Fri 6 Apr 12
Woody Mellor wrote:And so it begins.
NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:It passes right in front of my house!
Whats the betting that when the Olympic torch comes through York, we will be reading the same kind of miserable comments.
(Where I'll be waiting with a fire extinguisher)
openallhours
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12:50pm Fri 6 Apr 12
Still, I'm glad the Queen and all who visited with her enjoyed their jolly to York.
On another important point, I wonder who'll win Britains Got Talent this year.
AyoungYorkMum
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1:24pm Fri 6 Apr 12
Yes, you're right, this 'society's falling apart'. Which is exactly why I can't understand all the people moaning about the Queen's visit when it brought people together! No, it won't fix the world but it definitely brought happiness to many!
Mr Anderson
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6:27pm Fri 6 Apr 12
The Queen has a dump, just like everyone else. ;0)
Yorkie-Clifton
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11:49pm Fri 6 Apr 12
FulfordMick wrote:Did the Germans have the right to choose Hitler as the Head of State . I used to live in Fulford but am ashamed when people who attach themselves to an area in York speak as you do . You are a disgrace . Read your History and trace your Ancestors .
With a monarchy, the electorate don't have the right to choose their Head of State!
FulfordMick
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1:26pm Tue 10 Apr 12
"Did the Germans have the right to choose Hitler as the Head of State ."
Initially, yes they did, see http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Adolf_hitle
r#Br.C3.BCning_admin
istration
But I can't see what this has got to do with our "royal" family.
"I used to live in Fulford but am ashamed when people who attach themselves to an area in York speak as you do . You are a disgrace."
Why? Because I don't agree with you? Is that how far your argument has sunk now?
"Read your History and trace your Ancestors .”
I have traced my ancestors actually, what's your point?
FulfordMick
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1:32pm Tue 10 Apr 12
If you believe I have committed treason then I look forward to a visit from the police!
"I do not mention “the family “ but it is fact that our Queen and the Duke have made directly lots of money for businesses within the UK. Our Queen whether we like it or not in financial terms is a viable and very cost effective commodity."
That is still open to debate.
"Are they better than us? Well yes because they bring in vast revenue, not to mention the pleasure to the majority of the citizens of the UK."
So does Gary Barlow, but that doesn't mean that he is "better" than me, should have more legal powers than me, should be able to overrule parliament etc... Why should Lizzie Windsor have these powers? Why not me? Why should one family keep inheriting them? How is that fair?
"The positives far out weigh the negatives."
That's a matter of opinion upon which we obviously disagree.
"When in Rome.”
When in Rome, have a look around you at a country that does not have a monarchy, yet still rakes in millions from tourism.
Garrowby Turnoff says...
11:16am Thu 5 Apr 12