York "second happiest place to live" in UK (From York Press)

Great! So people are happy with drunk racegoers urinating against people's houses, hoards of paralytic 16 year old girls collapsing outside nightclubs at 4am and town packed with tourists cheering on the top of their voices at 9am on a Sunday morning cause some juggler from Leeds is throwing balls out of his backside, whilst the council tries to save millions in debt after spending 10s of millions on a new super-duper council HQ, but can't be bothered to empty bins more than twice a month.

At the same time we have Nimbys (non York people, former tourists and such, retiring here and whining about gift shop closures because of two extra shops at Monks Cross and moan about how it would help the football club, cause it doesn't fit in with their "but I'm not from York so I don't support them" attitude.

Other than that, York's great and us local people, born and bred do love the city! :-)

Terry york, you ever thought about moving to oldham...I think you'd fit right in...

This does suprise me but begs the question 'what must all the other places in the country be like'?

TerryYork wrote:
Great! So people are happy with drunk racegoers urinating against people's houses, hoards of paralytic 16 year old girls collapsing outside nightclubs at 4am and town packed with tourists cheering on the top of their voices at 9am on a Sunday morning cause some juggler from Leeds is throwing balls out of his backside, whilst the council tries to save millions in debt after spending 10s of millions on a new super-duper council HQ, but can't be bothered to empty bins more than twice a month.

At the same time we have Nimbys (non York people, former tourists and such, retiring here and whining about gift shop closures because of two extra shops at Monks Cross and moan about how it would help the football club, cause it doesn't fit in with their "but I'm not from York so I don't support them" attitude.

Other than that, York's great and us local people, born and bred do love the city! :-)

I bet your a right laugh to have a pint with, you miserable git!

TerryYork wrote:
Great! So people are happy with drunk racegoers urinating against people's houses, hoards of paralytic 16 year old girls collapsing outside nightclubs at 4am and town packed with tourists cheering on the top of their voices at 9am on a Sunday morning cause some juggler from Leeds is throwing balls out of his backside, whilst the council tries to save millions in debt after spending 10s of millions on a new super-duper council HQ, but can't be bothered to empty bins more than twice a month.

At the same time we have Nimbys (non York people, former tourists and such, retiring here and whining about gift shop closures because of two extra shops at Monks Cross and moan about how it would help the football club, cause it doesn't fit in with their "but I'm not from York so I don't support them" attitude.

Other than that, York's great and us local people, born and bred do love the city! :-)

Be uplifted, this is a brilliant endorsement of our great city. Why do you have to moan about everything?

Because it's a nonsense poll.

Carlisle won. Huddersfield came third.

Have a problem with that, so what. How about an opinion instead of shouting down others?

Thought not.

I'm glad this has finally been proved! I travelled a lot of the country over the last few years with work visiting educational institutes so saw a lot of the estates and residential areas, and it's made me appreciate York so much more! I'm proud of where I come from and am very happy and content to live in York.

I'd rather people didn't come up with these sorts of surveys. Part of what makes York special is the fact it's not sprawling and densely populated like many cities. Granted, hoards of people won't move here on the back of an estate agent's survey, but the more attention it gets as a nice place to live, the higher the property prices go and the quicker the new flats and houses spring up on every bit of available land. Plus the extra traffic/strain on services etc.

Don't know where Terry got his spectacles from, but they're about as far from rose tinted as you can get! We'd all change things about where we live, but York's bad things are far less nasty than a lot of places.

TerryYork wrote:
Because it's a nonsense poll.

Carlisle won. Huddersfield came third.

Have a problem with that, so what. How about an opinion instead of shouting down others?

Thought not.

Looks as though several people do have an opinion...

That you're a miserable bugger ;o)

Well I feel sorry for terryyork he clearly is a very miserable unhappy person. Lift your chin up a bit Terry, there's lots of happy people around you enjoying life in York. And there is easily far worse places to live in.

Woody Mellor wrote:

TerryYork wrote:
Great! So people are happy with drunk racegoers urinating against people's houses, hoards of paralytic 16 year old girls collapsing outside nightclubs at 4am and town packed with tourists cheering on the top of their voices at 9am on a Sunday morning cause some juggler from Leeds is throwing balls out of his backside, whilst the council tries to save millions in debt after spending 10s of millions on a new super-duper council HQ, but can't be bothered to empty bins more than twice a month.

At the same time we have Nimbys (non York people, former tourists and such, retiring here and whining about gift shop closures because of two extra shops at Monks Cross and moan about how it would help the football club, cause it doesn't fit in with their "but I'm not from York so I don't support them" attitude.

Other than that, York's great and us local people, born and bred do love the city! :-)

I bet your a right laugh to have a pint with, you miserable git!

Wooy Mellor said "I bet your a right laugh to have a pint with, you miserable git!"
"Your" is a possessive pronoun ie it precedes a noun and indicates ownership eg "your bike."
I think that you meant "you're" which is an abreviated version of "you are".

i knew York would come in the top three for this poll, lots of those "young girls that come sprawling out of the nightclubs at 4am " are probably out of towners so arent locals, it was LOCALS who were surveyed and it was from their opinions that York came second, well done York and its friendly people xx

Thanks for advertising this. Now we will be having everyone wanting to live in York. We may have the second best place to live in Britain, but we certainly have not got the second best road network to go with it. Even South Africa as a better road network than ours.

Gone in 60 seconds springs to mind......Fri night 23.00 Whenby Grove Huntington...House well lit up and curtains/blinds drawn so no-one could see inside.It was highly probable that there would be someone in the house.
2 thieving scumbags smashed there way into the integral garage to the side of the house a side door leads directly into kitchen.
They made of with £800 worth of bike and attached equipment belonging to my son who uses it daily for work to save on fuel costs.
This is what York has become.These scumbags are so bold as break into your home whilst you are actually inside.
We had no time to react,as by the time we realised the noise had come from our own garage and gone to investigate they had gone.Yes within a minute......
The police were fantastic and actually arrived withing 15 mins.
Its not the bike or the damage that overly concerns me here,but the boldness of it happening whilst we were in the house.It makes me wonder what might have happened had i been in the kitchen at the time and gone into the garage to investigate.
Public be warned.

We had someone break in to our shed while we were at home. We heard the noise and assumed it was our ever noisy neighbours. But this sort of thing can happen anywhere. It's not like it's the norm.

I would be miserable if I lived down South as well so I'm not surprised so many Northern places were top of the list. As cities go York is about the best. I don't know that anywhere is full of happy people but it's certainly a pleasant enough place to live.

I'm glad they didn't survey Terry, or the result would clearly have been different. York is a great place to live - the beautiful minster, a great walk around the walls, lots of good pubs, feeding squirrels in Museum Gardens, a friendly atmosphere in the day and a party atmosphere at night. If you can't be happy here, get used to being miserable.

pedalling paul wrote:

Woody Mellor wrote:

TerryYork wrote: Great! So people are happy with drunk racegoers urinating against people's houses, hoards of paralytic 16 year old girls collapsing outside nightclubs at 4am and town packed with tourists cheering on the top of their voices at 9am on a Sunday morning cause some juggler from Leeds is throwing balls out of his backside, whilst the council tries to save millions in debt after spending 10s of millions on a new super-duper council HQ, but can't be bothered to empty bins more than twice a month. At the same time we have Nimbys (non York people, former tourists and such, retiring here and whining about gift shop closures because of two extra shops at Monks Cross and moan about how it would help the football club, cause it doesn't fit in with their "but I'm not from York so I don't support them" attitude. Other than that, York's great and us local people, born and bred do love the city! :-)

I bet your a right laugh to have a pint with, you miserable git!

Wooy Mellor said "I bet your a right laugh to have a pint with, you miserable git!" "Your" is a possessive pronoun ie it precedes a noun and indicates ownership eg "your bike." I think that you meant "you're" which is an abreviated version of "you are".

pedalling paul wrote:

Wooy Mellor said "I bet your a right laugh to have a pint with, you miserable git!" "Your" is a possessive pronoun ie it precedes a noun and indicates ownership eg "your bike." I think that you meant "you're" which is an abreviated version of "you are".

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Muphry's_la
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Both "ie" and "eg" are not words. They are "i.e." and "e.g.".

Messed up on the quoting there!

only human wrote:
Gone in 60 seconds springs to mind......Fri night 23.00 Whenby Grove Huntington...House well lit up and curtains/blinds drawn so no-one could see inside.It was highly probable that there would be someone in the house.
2 thieving scumbags smashed there way into the integral garage to the side of the house a side door leads directly into kitchen.
They made of with £800 worth of bike and attached equipment belonging to my son who uses it daily for work to save on fuel costs.
This is what York has become.These scumbags are so bold as break into your home whilst you are actually inside.
We had no time to react,as by the time we realised the noise had come from our own garage and gone to investigate they had gone.Yes within a minute......
The police were fantastic and actually arrived withing 15 mins.
Its not the bike or the damage that overly concerns me here,but the boldness of it happening whilst we were in the house.It makes me wonder what might have happened had i been in the kitchen at the time and gone into the garage to investigate.
Public be warned.

This happens in every city and town across the country. It isn't what York has become, its been going on ever since people started to own things worth stealing.

Prob wrote:

pedalling paul wrote:

Woody Mellor wrote:

TerryYork wrote: Great! So people are happy with drunk racegoers urinating against people's houses, hoards of paralytic 16 year old girls collapsing outside nightclubs at 4am and town packed with tourists cheering on the top of their voices at 9am on a Sunday morning cause some juggler from Leeds is throwing balls out of his backside, whilst the council tries to save millions in debt after spending 10s of millions on a new super-duper council HQ, but can't be bothered to empty bins more than twice a month. At the same time we have Nimbys (non York people, former tourists and such, retiring here and whining about gift shop closures because of two extra shops at Monks Cross and moan about how it would help the football club, cause it doesn't fit in with their "but I'm not from York so I don't support them" attitude. Other than that, York's great and us local people, born and bred do love the city! :-)

I bet your a right laugh to have a pint with, you miserable git!

Wooy Mellor said "I bet your a right laugh to have a pint with, you miserable git!" "Your" is a possessive pronoun ie it precedes a noun and indicates ownership eg "your bike." I think that you meant "you're" which is an abreviated version of "you are".

pedalling paul wrote: Wooy Mellor said "I bet your a right laugh to have a pint with, you miserable git!" "Your" is a possessive pronoun ie it precedes a noun and indicates ownership eg "your bike." I think that you meant "you're" which is an abreviated version of "you are".

http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Muphry's_la w Both "ie" and "eg" are not words. They are "i.e." and "e.g.".

Hepfail

York is beautiful. The only other UK city I would consider living in is Edinburgh.

"A survey conducted by online property portal Rightmove" - These people are nefarious charlatans. Any data supplied by this organisation is likely to be highly flawed and should be taken with a very large pinch of salt.

ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
York is beautiful. The only other UK city I would consider living in is Edinburgh.

"A survey conducted by online property portal Rightmove" - These people are nefarious charlatans. Any data supplied by this organisation is likely to be highly flawed and should be taken with a very large pinch of salt.

I agree with this - they would be my choices as well. Terry may disagree. He's probably never lived anywhere other than York so is unable to compare.

York is a great place to live.Have to say the 16 year old girls falling out of night clubs at 4AM,have ever bothered me.Suppose if I lived in the town centre near the night clubs it may annoy me.Same applies to urinating yobs at the races,if I lived on the route from races to town this could be annoying a few days a year.The jugglers in town dont appear to be a major issue.Anyway,York not perfect but a hell of a lot better than most Cities/large towns,in my opinion.

Great survey! And a very funny debate. Cant stop laughing.

I`m moving to York from Norway in the summer, with my wife and 2 boys. Cant wait:)

York is a great place to live, bad news on the break-in, but just as we are in the happiest top few cities so we are in the safest. So glad i live here. i am among a lot of people i know who have moved up from the south, controbuting intellectual capital, jobs and local taxes ...

Terry's opening post is exactly why I moved from the Centre of York. Add to his points the increased crime rates, specifially a dramatic increase in day time knife point robberies. Coming 2nd to Carlisle and just above Huddersfield proves this poll is completely flawed - FACT.
Colin Pratt

Colin, you make binary judgements about things you know almost nothing about a bit too easily. "FACT".

First of all, happiness is subjective terminology, how can one survey generalise on the state of emotion of the whole city? Not only that, the survey itself may not be an accurate cross sampling of the many different cultures, education, interests of the people who live here.
However, The Press have simply printed the results of a survey from a housing website- it is not meant to be hard science and statistical fact.
Given all that, I moved here from the midlands 16 years ago and finished school here and would not move back. I love York and concur with the findings of the survey. I have lived, through work in Hull and Leeds, and experienced life away from this beautiful city steeped in history, that, quite rightly, should be proud. We are York residents and are generally proud and lucky to live here. We have lower crime rates, better education, and generally a cleaner city. Yes every built up city has its problems, e.g underage drinking and crime- this is a representation of the national society that we live in, ( I myself have had to endure nightmare neighbours bringing these problems to my door) but go to other cities, and the magnitude of these problems is more apparent.
On the state of emotion of the York residents, we all have our groans etc, however, after living here and working with the public of the city, shopping in the centre, going out on a night yes, the generalisation is that it is a " happier, friendlier" place to live- London anyone??
and as Terry may put it, my love of history and architecture and history may be a bit "gay" ( which is more giving about one's personallity to use such a remark) but since Im a a female in my 30's, I can deal with it. I must say though, that abusing others on their comments and typo's in the childish uncouth manner that you have Terry, speaks more about you than it does anyone else, go, live a little- you'll soon come back to York and appreciate the city and all the " happy shiny " people!

spot the typo- that one was for you Terry

COMPLETELY agree about York and Edinburgh being the best cities in the UK. They're the only ones I'd live in, too, unless something really important dragged me somewhere else.

Born and bred in York,have to say it has to be the best place to live,I am 62 but promise to return to live one day.Perhaps people like p.p.are not true "Yorkies" and do not merit to live in our beautiful city.

There are good and bad aspects about any place you go, but for those who have whined about it, the answer is very simple. If you dislike york that much, then leave. I'm sure Hull would love to have you.

Moved to York 2 years ago and its the most fabulous place.

All those criticising it, you should take a look around and see what other people have to contend with.

This is a beautiful, cultured, popular and vibrant place to live full of history and modernism living side by side. You are never more than 5 minutes from a jaw dropping view, from a friendly face or from a bustling street.

I've lived in some fantastic places, but York is by far and away the best.

Of course York is one of the happiest places to live.It was never in debate
Try going elsewhere and you will se why despite its imperfections its greaaaaaaaat

As a Southerner (southern hemisphere, not southern counties) I happy living in York.

This survey applies to only 70% of York. The other 30% (Tang Hall, Acomb and Foxwood) are miserable places....

HPSauce wrote:
Moved to York 2 years ago and its the most fabulous place. All those criticising it, you should take a look around and see what other people have to contend with. This is a beautiful, cultured, popular and vibrant place to live full of history and modernism living side by side. You are never more than 5 minutes from a jaw dropping view, from a friendly face or from a bustling street. I've lived in some fantastic places, but York is by far and away the best.

I think this is the problem some York folk don't understand. They'd be in for a massive cultural shock regarding a number of things if they moved to some other Towns and Cities. What people moan about in York are probably quite light-hearted in other places. People should never forget how lucky they are to live and work in York. It's not the perfect place or 'heaven on earth' but it's certainly not a bad existence round here.

2nd? I though we would come first! I guess that the ring road around Clifton Moor let us down again!

Nah, they probably interviewed too many people born and bred here - they seem, almost without fail, to be the most curmudgeonly, dour, misanthropic people I've ever had the intense misfortune of having met.

York has for many years been known as the 'salesman's graveyard'.

Apparently because the natives are reputed to be so rude and ignorant to people knocking on their doors...when compared to other towns and cities.

Aside from that, PLEASE somebody listen to the residents of York for once and give us a FINISHED ring road !

That would make me a LOT happier.

I have lived in York all my life and love it, although sometimes take it for granted. All it takes is a trip to London for a couple of days, surrounded by the unfriendly and self obsessed southerners to truly appreciate our beautiful city and the down to earth nature of its residents.

I find this whole article highly dubious, as i live in York, and am miserable most days, although i am 79 years old now.

I find most of the comments on here quite amusing really. I am hopefully moving to York later this year because it is such a happy place with welcoming people, my daughter having lived here for 7 years. Believe me, i know what it's like to live in a miserable place. I've lived in Bradford most of my life, and can't believe it's not in the most miserable 10! it's as bad as Oldham without a doubt. Can't wait to get out, and back to a proper Yorkshire city. All you who were born here are very lucky, and the survey proves just that

I just hacked into this network from a hospital bed in Sweden, where I am getting treatment for a gunshot wound to my head.

Not really. I am not really Lisbeth Salander.

I just wanted to say that I love York because people say (/write) things like "progressive pronoun" when taking the pi$$ out of people like Terry, and because people like Terry also live there and that is about as bad as it gets in York, which is not very bad at all. Compared with e.g. (or eg - without the little dots - depending on your persuasion) Beeston or Armley or anywhere in Bradford or lots of other places. It also has the Pig & Pastry where three generations of the same family can share a table with a mad woman and eat glorified egg mcmuffins for £7 without a second thought.

Whilst on the subject of Terry, insofar as I may have urinated on his house last year on the way to the races and thereby upset him, I must humbly apologise. Not that it was me obviously, as I am a Swedish girl.

Or am I?

Only two things about York I am a little confused about. Firstly, why did the entire city smell of chocolate yesterday (why can't it smell like that permanently?), and who the heck do all those Range Rovers belong to at the train station and how do I get one?

Lisbeth,
Some great sentiments there, and very entertaining. You've just proved my point. Thanks

kjs801 wrote:
First of all, happiness is subjective terminology, how can one survey generalise on the state of emotion of the whole city? Not only that, the survey itself may not be an accurate cross sampling of the many different cultures, education, interests of the people who live here.
However, The Press have simply printed the results of a survey from a housing website- it is not meant to be hard science and statistical fact.
Given all that, I moved here from the midlands 16 years ago and finished school here and would not move back. I love York and concur with the findings of the survey. I have lived, through work in Hull and Leeds, and experienced life away from this beautiful city steeped in history, that, quite rightly, should be proud. We are York residents and are generally proud and lucky to live here. We have lower crime rates, better education, and generally a cleaner city. Yes every built up city has its problems, e.g underage drinking and crime- this is a representation of the national society that we live in, ( I myself have had to endure nightmare neighbours bringing these problems to my door) but go to other cities, and the magnitude of these problems is more apparent.
On the state of emotion of the York residents, we all have our groans etc, however, after living here and working with the public of the city, shopping in the centre, going out on a night yes, the generalisation is that it is a " happier, friendlier" place to live- London anyone??
and as Terry may put it, my love of history and architecture and history may be a bit "gay" ( which is more giving about one's personallity to use such a remark) but since Im a a female in my 30's, I can deal with it. I must say though, that abusing others on their comments and typo's in the childish uncouth manner that you have Terry, speaks more about you than it does anyone else, go, live a little- you'll soon come back to York and appreciate the city and all the " happy shiny " people!

Happy shining people? In York?
*#*# right off ! The natives of York are the most ignorant and selfish miserable bunch of creeps you'll find anywhere on the globe.

Actually, after having lived here for 45 years I'm inclined to agree.

grahamw wrote:
York has for many years been known as the 'salesman's graveyard'.

Apparently because the natives are reputed to be so rude and ignorant to people knocking on their doors...when compared to other towns and cities.

Aside from that, PLEASE somebody listen to the residents of York for once and give us a FINISHED ring road !

That would make me a LOT happier.

Maybe York residents are so happy they don't have to resort to excessive consumerism?

Customers that are too happy spells the end of capitalism...

kay-loves-york-alway
s wrote:
i knew York would come in the top three for this poll, lots of those "young girls that come sprawling out of the nightclubs at 4am " are probably out of towners so arent locals, it was LOCALS who were surveyed and it was from their opinions that York came second, well done York and its friendly people xx

"probably out of towners". Not according to a (police officer) friend of mine. They are part of the local (York residential) scum who drink to the point of near collapse and vomit/urinate/fight in the streets at night. I couldn't wait to move out of York as I resented paying council tax to a corrupt and greedy council (find me any that aren't, for that matter), who see gullible York residents as cash-point machines to fund the tourist industry. The stupid "we-love-our-beautif
ul-city" brigade should throw away their silly rose-tinted glasses and wise up.
PS I'll pay a reward for the details (ie name) of the student who fried the pet hamster. Just a name. That's all...

"probably out of towners". Not according to a (police officer) friend of mine. They are part of the local (York residential) scum who drink to the point of near collapse and vomit/urinate/fight in the streets at night. I couldn't wait to move out of York as I resented paying council tax to a corrupt and greedy council (find me any that aren't, for that matter), who see gullible York residents as cash-point machines to fund the tourist industry. The stupid "we-love-our-beautif
ul-city" brigade should throw away their silly rose-tinted glasses and wise up.
PS I'll pay a reward for the details (ie name) of the student who fried the pet hamster. Just a name. That's all...