York ftr workers ‘facing jobs axe’ (From York Press)
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York ftr workers ‘facing jobs axe’
9:20am Saturday 4th February 2012 in News
A UNION claims 29 conductors are at risk of redundancy following First’s decision to axe York’s ftr buses.
Unite says it is in italks with the company to try to reduce the number of job losses, and it also wants a ‘fair deal’ by offering more than the statutory minimum for those facing redundancy.
First said it was currently in formal consultations with staff and the union over the removal of the ftrs in York, but it could not comment further at this stage.
The Press reported earlier this week that controversial ftr superbuses on the Number 4 route from Acomb to the university were set to be replaced by a fleet of easiley accessible double decker buses by Easter.
First said that following a review, it had identified an opportunity to launch the ftr elsewhere in its northern region following a refurbishment. It said the decision was but it had been mindful of York council’s leaders desire to remove them from York. It refused to confirm or deny rumours then that 30 jobs were at risk.
Unite said yesterday that First was only offering statutory terms for those facing redundancy, even though it had admitted it would be saving more than £300,000 per annum by getting rid of the 29 conductors.
Regional officer Harriet Eisner claimed that the York taxpayer, including Unite members, had paid for York's roads to accommodate the bendy buses and it is the union’s members who were paying for First to get rid of the bendy buses. “First York is going to make considerable savings but the company is not treating its workers fairly,” she claimed.
"These workers are the face of First buses in York and they deserve a fair deal. The company should do everything possible to find them alternative work or pay them a redundancy settlement which recognises the contribution they have made to the company."
Comments(16)
bloodaxe
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8:57pm Fri 3 Feb 12
was york now rotherham
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11:02pm Fri 3 Feb 12
Quintaine
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12:17am Sat 4 Feb 12
Torycouncil2015
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8:50am Sat 4 Feb 12
ISeeEverything
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9:50am Sat 4 Feb 12
Punk_Ian
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1:50pm Sat 4 Feb 12
was york now rotherham wrote:because it's First and would involve investment not profits
why not just swap the Bendy buses out for newer Routemaster buses after all you need a driver and a conductor so nobody gets to loose their jobs
BigJon
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6:00pm Sat 4 Feb 12
Magicman!
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9:41pm Sat 4 Feb 12
ISeeEverything wrote:Stagecoach throw more money around than First.... they did a nationwide revamp of their livery a few years ago - that cost a fair old chunk of cash, but First kept their boring old 90% 'bus dealer white' with a tiny little bit of colour livery.
In Sheffield, Stagecoach use street conductors to speed up loading. They don't actually travel on the buses, but sell tickets at bus stops. As Stagecoach aren't known for throwing money around, it must work for them, so why wouldn't it work for First.
What is there to prevent double door double deck buses being ordered and conductors working on those so both doors can be used at the same time?
TERRIER3
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10:01pm Sat 4 Feb 12
ISeeEverything wrote:im not 100% certain but i think that practice is not allowed by the competion commisson? seen as First and Stagecoach run services in sheffield that would be against the rules, although they would be allowed to sell tickets for the tram service because they have monopoly in that sector. just like when pullman started running services to the uni and they undercut First on fares, first were not allowed to lower their fares below pullmans because the commision would see that as unfair.
In Sheffield, Stagecoach use street conductors to speed up loading. They don't actually travel on the buses, but sell tickets at bus stops. As Stagecoach aren't known for throwing money around, it must work for them, so why wouldn't it work for First.
TERRIER3
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10:04pm Sat 4 Feb 12
Magicman! wrote:First are spending 160 million on 900 new buses over the next 2 years, is that enough investment for you?
ISeeEverything wrote:Stagecoach throw more money around than First.... they did a nationwide revamp of their livery a few years ago - that cost a fair old chunk of cash, but First kept their boring old 90% 'bus dealer white' with a tiny little bit of colour livery.
In Sheffield, Stagecoach use street conductors to speed up loading. They don't actually travel on the buses, but sell tickets at bus stops. As Stagecoach aren't known for throwing money around, it must work for them, so why wouldn't it work for First.
What is there to prevent double door double deck buses being ordered and conductors working on those so both doors can be used at the same time?
Whoreallycares
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10:05am Sun 5 Feb 12
Magicman! wrote:Magicman, I doubt the average passenger is concerned about the livery. That is the domain of bus spotters. The Stagecoach scheme did not cost "a fair old chunk of cash", apart from design costs, it was part of the repaint cycle. As a former Stagecoach Manager, I do know what I am talking about.
ISeeEverything wrote:Stagecoach throw more money around than First.... they did a nationwide revamp of their livery a few years ago - that cost a fair old chunk of cash, but First kept their boring old 90% 'bus dealer white' with a tiny little bit of colour livery.
In Sheffield, Stagecoach use street conductors to speed up loading. They don't actually travel on the buses, but sell tickets at bus stops. As Stagecoach aren't known for throwing money around, it must work for them, so why wouldn't it work for First.
What is there to prevent double door double deck buses being ordered and conductors working on those so both doors can be used at the same time?
As with many of your comments on here, you need to take your enthusiast head off, as in the main you have no idea what you are talking about.
Dennis.Dart
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2:51pm Sun 5 Feb 12
was york now rotherham
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6:50pm Sun 5 Feb 12
ISeeEverything wrote:i would love to know which stops them conductors work from as the only ones to do with stagecoach i have seen were at meadowhall and they are to do with the supertrams unless your mistakeing the drivers that are forever on strike which is dam anoying when you only have 2 buses an hour on our route and then thats when they can be arsed to turn up
In Sheffield, Stagecoach use street conductors to speed up loading. They don't actually travel on the buses, but sell tickets at bus stops. As Stagecoach aren't known for throwing money around, it must work for them, so why wouldn't it work for First.
Chrido81
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12:41pm Mon 6 Feb 12
Dioddefwyr
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8:59pm Sun 26 Feb 12
Double decker buses - 11 years old or not - will be a welcome relief from these monstrosities. I feel sorry for the conductors losing their jobs, of course, but the system never worked in the first place. Have you tried scrambling about for money, straggling three bags between your legs, with nothing to hold on to thanks to the strangers boxing you in?
Sillybillies says...
8:37pm Fri 3 Feb 12