Chance to take a look at Askham Bar Park&Ride plans (From York Press)
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Chance to take a look at Askham Bar Park&Ride plans
8:50am Saturday 28th January 2012 in News
PEOPLE who use and live near a Park&Ride site in York will be able to comment on plans to change the road layout for an extended site.
City of York Council’s Access York project secured £22 million in Government funding last year to improve traffic flows in the city, and part of the scheme will see the Askham Bar Park&Ride site, near Tesco in Tadcaster Road, rebuilt to include 1,100 spaces.
Outline details will be available to view and comment on from Monday until February 24, and can also be seen at york.gov.uk
Leaflets will be distributed to local residents, while the proposals will go before the Rural West York ward committee’s next meeting on February 8.
Funding has also been granted for a new 600-space Park&Ride site at Poppleton Bar.
That project includes a proposal to upgrade the A59/A1237 roundabout and provide Boroughbridge Road bus priority routes.
Coun Dave Merrett, cabinet member for city strategy, said: “These new schemes will enable our Park&Ride system to be used by more visitors, improve circulation on the outer ring road, and take a further 300,000 cars off York’s roads.”
Comments(13)
pedalling paul
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9:25am Sat 28 Jan 12
Madasanibbotson
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9:32am Sat 28 Jan 12
mysore
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10:29am Sat 28 Jan 12
Casual_Reader
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2:11pm Sat 28 Jan 12
Apart from the impact to free flowing traffic and having engines idling at lights can you imagine what the queues will be like when the lights fail? (and they will!)
...also just noticed that the slip road off the Copmanthorpe Road has been removed as well. I thought was a good part of the 2009 plan because it alleviated additional queuing at the junction. Oh well....
pedalling paul
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2:19pm Sat 28 Jan 12
Madasanibbotson wrote:These local roads are managed by CYC and funded from Council Tax income.All national taxes contribute to Mway and trunk road upkeep.Many cyclist users will also be car owners who find pedal power cheaper and quicker for local journeys.Road tax does not exist. The tax is on car ownership.
The drivers pay the road tax not cyclists, we shouldn't waste money on lights for cyclists, they should stand with their bikes until its safe to cross.
york_chap
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4:06pm Sat 28 Jan 12
P+R does need a fairly direct route into town, but sending buses along routes they just don't fit on, is dangerous and causes congestion rather than easing it. Look at the Rawcliffe P+R. Every time a bus stops in Clifton Green the traffic backs up behind it. A big traffic island with railings/lights on it had to be removed at our expense, at the end of Leeman Road. The buses then pass inches from the parked cars in the narrow terraced streets. The bendy buses have to use both carriageways to negotiate the railway bridge and have traffic backed up behind them while they wait. Same problem entering Bootham from the Art Gallery. They have to wait to negotiate the corner, then narrowly avoid cause a head-on collision every time.
Problems are caused when 2 vans have to pass in Poppleton Road, let alone 2 large buses. No doubt the council will ban residents from parking outside their homes. As for the bus lanes, look what a farce the Fulford Road scheme was. Also, will they be actively monitored? I've never been stopped or seen anyone be stopped for cruising up the bus lanes in York in private vehicles. Coppergate is a particularly blatant example. Buses are regularly held up by cars/vans illegally using it as a short cut.
R'Marcus
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4:39pm Sat 28 Jan 12
The college should employ crossing patrols to stop those idiots who walk infront traffic on Tadcaster Road ignoring the traffic lights.
Stevie D
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10:05pm Sat 28 Jan 12
@york_chap - there's only one very short section of Poppleton Road that is tight, well under quarter of a mile between Water End and Holgate Park. The rest of the road is a good, wide main road and ideal for large buses including bendies. (Not sure why you're ranting about the problems of sending bendies down Leeman Road when this plan is not sending bendies down Leeman Road). I don't know if it's even been confirmed whether this route will run bendies or not.
twoleftfeet
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10:30pm Sat 28 Jan 12
Madasanibbotson wrote:Road Tax does not exist. It's called Car tax. Road improvements come out of Council tax and government schemes.
The drivers pay the road tax not cyclists, we shouldn't waste money on lights for cyclists, they should stand with their bikes until its safe to cross.
Magicman!
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1:37am Sun 29 Jan 12
Madasanibbotson wrote:Hopefully you have somebody to care for you as your mind seems to be going. When you send that cheque off to HM Government you may notice it is for Vehicle Excise Duty - the clue is in the inclusion of the word "Vehicle", of which the tax paid is directly proportional to the size of vehicle being driven. This money can be used by the government for anything they like, even for cleaning moats if they so desire.
The drivers pay the road tax not cyclists, we shouldn't waste money on lights for cyclists, they should stand with their bikes until its safe to cross.
I would personally not want to see yet another side road junction controlled by traffic lights, as we have too many traffic-light controlled junctions where roundabouts would do the job better. Traffic lights consume energy and there is always a few times every hour where traffic is waiting needlessly, whether it be a dozen vehicles waiting on the main route for just one vehicle exiting the other route, or vehicles waiting for absolutely nothing (hayleys terrace junction springs to mind), and it is these periods of time where petrol is being burned for nothing... at least if you're waiting at a roundabout it is because there's other traffic there!
pedalling paul
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8:31am Mon 30 Jan 12
Of course all this may lessen peak traffic on Water End and remove the demand to remove a very useful cycle lane.....
pedalling paul
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8:31am Mon 30 Jan 12
Of course all this may lessen peak traffic on Water End and remove the demand to remove a very useful cycle lane.....
m dee
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11:26am Mon 30 Jan 12
pedalling paul wrote:Paul ,no problems with promoting cycling however this is about Government funding to improve traffic flows in the city,some 3m has already been spent on cycling provisions.
..and hopefully introduce park 'n cycle, and cycle n'ride. Not impressed with the severance of the York-Copmanthorpe cycle path by the access road to the new site & hope that it will be signalised for cyclists safety.
Working with your assumptions
there will always be the possibility that freeing up road space may encourage additional car journeys.
Traffic lights in York make things worse for traffic flow, if you approach the Holgate road lights from Blossom street the red light stops traffic turning into Holgate rd ,going straight onto the mount,and traffic coming the opposite direction down the mount,in order to let traffic out of Holgate rd turning left towards town and right onto the Mount.
If the very rarely used right turn onto the Mount was taken away traffic coming from Blossom street could be given the green filter at this point and the traffic continuing onto the mount from Blossom street could also have a green light,taking away the backlog of stationary traffic to the Nunnery Lane junction.
In other words allowing the movement of 3 lanes rather then 1 and a rarely used option.
The right turn off Holgate Road is not needed as there is a alternative route via Dalton terrace.
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