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Dead foxes hung on tree near Scout camp
9:09am Tuesday 3rd January 2012 in News
DEAD foxes have been strung up near a Scout camp in Selby – sparking outrage from a local wildlife group.
Two dead animals were tied to a rope and hung from their necks on trees in a small wooded area at the border of what is thought to be a privately owned field near the Tamarak Scout Camp, at Barlow Common Nature Reserve, Selby.
Anne Clates, of Selby Badger Watch, who found the dead foxes, said they were in varying states of decomposition. She has reported the matter to police and will be informing the RSPCA.
She was walking with a friend on the Common when she spotted the animals’ bodies.
“We were quite close to the Scout camp but I think the foxes were on privately owned land just off the common,” she said.
“One of the foxes was decomposing and the other only looked like it had been recently killed.”
She said she thought someone had shot the foxes and hung them up.
“As it is near the Scout camp I don’t think it is very pleasant to see. It is quite sickening to stumble across.”
Mrs Clates posted the images on social networking site Twitter, where one reader said: “That is shocking. Just down the road from there I have seen crows and magpies nailed to the tree.”
Another said: “Shocking and tragic.”
A spokeswoman for North Yorkshire Police said they had been informed about the dead foxes and were now investigating if they had been lawfully killed.
She said: “Police are aware of the dead foxes and the local Wildlife Officer has been informed.
“Officers will carry out inquiries to establish if any offences have been committed.”
Mrs Clates said even if no laws had been found to be broken, she hoped to have the bodies properly disposed of nevertheless to prevent anybody else making the same “shocking” discovery.
Anyone with information can phone North Yorkshire Police on 101.
Comments(39)
akuma
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9:45am Tue 3 Jan 12
It doesn't take a genius to work out someone will complain, and rightly so.
It looks like someone was actively trying to cause offence.
Woody Mellor
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9:47am Tue 3 Jan 12
sambo1943 wrote:Whats that got to do with anything??? The whole point of the article is that some sick minded moron decided to string up his kill (brave aren't they?) where young children are bound to see them and get upset.
why dramatise this article by saying its near a scout camp. foxes are vermin if the government had'nt stopped fox hunting ,people would'nt have to shoot foxes ,which is allot crueler than hunting and i'm not a member of any hunting fraternity
Whistlejacket
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10:41am Tue 3 Jan 12
What's wrong with people nowadays?
Not that many years ago, scouts would have been shown how to kill and gut fish and rabbits. I don't suppose they needed trauma counselling afterwards.
If you think the sight of a decomposing animal corpse is too upsetting to bear, you probably should stay away from the countryside.
myselby
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11:44am Tue 3 Jan 12
Kohelet
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11:53am Tue 3 Jan 12
sambo1943 wrote:Hunting never disposed of many foxes according to the stats. So your point is not correct in making the connection. This is about some sicko's
why dramatise this article by saying its near a scout camp. foxes are vermin if the government had'nt stopped fox hunting ,people would'nt have to shoot foxes ,which is allot crueler than hunting and i'm not a member of any hunting fraternity
Pedro
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12:36pm Tue 3 Jan 12
Sillybillies
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12:45pm Tue 3 Jan 12
what is thought to be a privately owned field
If that is the case it's nothing to do with Mrs Clates or anyone else, and the police should have better things to do than bother with it.
Hunting4olympics
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12:49pm Tue 3 Jan 12
Selbybadgerwatch
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1:06pm Tue 3 Jan 12
sambo1943 wrote:I found the foxes, and in reply to another post, I am not a Townie, but born and bred in the Countryside and am familiar with the stringing up of foxes and other animals classed as vermin.
why dramatise this article by saying its near a scout camp. foxes are vermin if the government had'nt stopped fox hunting ,people would'nt have to shoot foxes ,which is allot crueler than hunting and i'm not a member of any hunting fraternity
To set the record straight the person who has hung the foxes up has a small holding with ducks, geese, turkeys, hens etc, he is having problems with foxes taking his birds.
The dead foxes have been killed by snaring, he has used a free running snare and so has not committed any offence in killing the foxes.
Hanging the foxes up on trees is known as a gibet line and it is an old fashioned thing that gamekeepers used to do to show the lord of the manor how good they were at vermin control. It is not an offence to have a gibet line.
Being in close proximity to the now "unmanned" Barlow Common Nature Reserve and also the Scout Camp, the person responsible has agreed to take the foxes down and not put any more up.
Hunting4olympics
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1:12pm Tue 3 Jan 12
Selbybadgerwatch wrote:The hact u have badger watch in your title shows your complete failure to understand anything country! Badgers do more harm than any other animal in the countryside look at all the cattle farmers both dairy and beef losing their businesses through the disease spread by these worthless creatures.
sambo1943 wrote: why dramatise this article by saying its near a scout camp. foxes are vermin if the government had'nt stopped fox hunting ,people would'nt have to shoot foxes ,which is allot crueler than hunting and i'm not a member of any hunting fraternityI found the foxes, and in reply to another post, I am not a Townie, but born and bred in the Countryside and am familiar with the stringing up of foxes and other animals classed as vermin. To set the record straight the person who has hung the foxes up has a small holding with ducks, geese, turkeys, hens etc, he is having problems with foxes taking his birds. The dead foxes have been killed by snaring, he has used a free running snare and so has not committed any offence in killing the foxes. Hanging the foxes up on trees is known as a gibet line and it is an old fashioned thing that gamekeepers used to do to show the lord of the manor how good they were at vermin control. It is not an offence to have a gibet line. Being in close proximity to the now "unmanned" Barlow Common Nature Reserve and also the Scout Camp, the person responsible has agreed to take the foxes down and not put any more up.
Whistlejacket
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1:19pm Tue 3 Jan 12
Smaller landowners carry on this tradition to demonstrate to their neighbours that they are doing their share of pest control.
Unfortunately, it's now quite likely that some of their neighbours are "backward" urban proletarians who have no understanding of the reality of food production or the immense damage that uncontrolled vermin do.
alfie
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1:59pm Tue 3 Jan 12
sambo1943 wrote:You idiot so been ripped apart by dogs is not as cruel as been shot! I know which death I would choose.
why dramatise this article by saying its near a scout camp. foxes are vermin if the government had'nt stopped fox hunting ,people would'nt have to shoot foxes ,which is allot crueler than hunting and i'm not a member of any hunting fraternity
Reading some of these comments from the 'fox hunting brigade' you need to update yourselves to this century.
Pedro
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2:12pm Tue 3 Jan 12
Big Bad Wolf
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3:18pm Tue 3 Jan 12
alfie wrote:If the fox is not cleanly shot (which is very difficult being a moving target and all) it can get away and die a very painful death..... at least with the hounds it is over very quickly.
sambo1943 wrote: why dramatise this article by saying its near a scout camp. foxes are vermin if the government had'nt stopped fox hunting ,people would'nt have to shoot foxes ,which is allot crueler than hunting and i'm not a member of any hunting fraternityYou idiot so been ripped apart by dogs is not as cruel as been shot! I know which death I would choose. Reading some of these comments from the 'fox hunting brigade' you need to update yourselves to this century.
Garrowby Turnoff
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3:51pm Tue 3 Jan 12
Selbybadgerwatch
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3:57pm Tue 3 Jan 12
Hunting4olympics wrote:Excuse me but what have badgers got to do with this topic? We are talking about foxes being hung up on a gibet line, and excuse me again, but I am well versed in everything to do with the countryside and spend my entire life in forests and fields and see more in a week than you probably do in your entire life time. If you have to comment on this article then please stick to the topic which is foxes. Next week you may have your chance to comment on badgers when 7 badger baiters, using 13 dogs to rip a pregnant sow apart scattering her unborn foetuses across a field at Howsham, are to be sentenced. But for now, the topic is the humane killing of foxes, oh and ps, my doves have just been attacked by a Sparrowhawk, one has its chest ripped open but still alive, but then again that's another topic, so I'll practise what I preach and still to talking about foxes.
Selbybadgerwatch wrote:The hact u have badger watch in your title shows your complete failure to understand anything country! Badgers do more harm than any other animal in the countryside look at all the cattle farmers both dairy and beef losing their businesses through the disease spread by these worthless creatures.sambo1943 wrote: why dramatise this article by saying its near a scout camp. foxes are vermin if the government had'nt stopped fox hunting ,people would'nt have to shoot foxes ,which is allot crueler than hunting and i'm not a member of any hunting fraternityI found the foxes, and in reply to another post, I am not a Townie, but born and bred in the Countryside and am familiar with the stringing up of foxes and other animals classed as vermin. To set the record straight the person who has hung the foxes up has a small holding with ducks, geese, turkeys, hens etc, he is having problems with foxes taking his birds. The dead foxes have been killed by snaring, he has used a free running snare and so has not committed any offence in killing the foxes. Hanging the foxes up on trees is known as a gibet line and it is an old fashioned thing that gamekeepers used to do to show the lord of the manor how good they were at vermin control. It is not an offence to have a gibet line. Being in close proximity to the now "unmanned" Barlow Common Nature Reserve and also the Scout Camp, the person responsible has agreed to take the foxes down and not put any more up.
poto3626
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4:09pm Tue 3 Jan 12
Hunting4olympics wrote:Hunting4olympics is completely wrong about badgers in the North of England.
Selbybadgerwatch wrote:The hact u have badger watch in your title shows your complete failure to understand anything country! Badgers do more harm than any other animal in the countryside look at all the cattle farmers both dairy and beef losing their businesses through the disease spread by these worthless creatures.
sambo1943 wrote: why dramatise this article by saying its near a scout camp. foxes are vermin if the government had'nt stopped fox hunting ,people would'nt have to shoot foxes ,which is allot crueler than hunting and i'm not a member of any hunting fraternityI found the foxes, and in reply to another post, I am not a Townie, but born and bred in the Countryside and am familiar with the stringing up of foxes and other animals classed as vermin. To set the record straight the person who has hung the foxes up has a small holding with ducks, geese, turkeys, hens etc, he is having problems with foxes taking his birds. The dead foxes have been killed by snaring, he has used a free running snare and so has not committed any offence in killing the foxes. Hanging the foxes up on trees is known as a gibet line and it is an old fashioned thing that gamekeepers used to do to show the lord of the manor how good they were at vermin control. It is not an offence to have a gibet line. Being in close proximity to the now "unmanned" Barlow Common Nature Reserve and also the Scout Camp, the person responsible has agreed to take the foxes down and not put any more up.
We have had no cases of bovine tuberculosis in our area for some considerable time which confirms the findings of the majority of scientists that the badgers do not spread the disease.
It seems that this person is trying to justify hunting and baiting them by saying that Badgers are worthless.
bloodaxe
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4:26pm Tue 3 Jan 12
sambo1943 wrote:The cruel thing is having to read this ungrammatical, mis-spelt and badly punctuated tosh.
why dramatise this article by saying its near a scout camp. foxes are vermin if the government had'nt stopped fox hunting ,people would'nt have to shoot foxes ,which is allot crueler than hunting and i'm not a member of any hunting fraternity
CHISSY1
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4:53pm Tue 3 Jan 12
bloodaxe wrote:Goodness me,you must be traumatized having to read this "ungrammatical,mis-s
sambo1943 wrote:The cruel thing is having to read this ungrammatical, mis-spelt and badly punctuated tosh.
why dramatise this article by saying its near a scout camp. foxes are vermin if the government had'nt stopped fox hunting ,people would'nt have to shoot foxes ,which is allot crueler than hunting and i'm not a member of any hunting fraternity
pelt and badly punctuated tosh".
Hel n Highwater
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6:04pm Tue 3 Jan 12
Hunting4olympics wrote:Hunting4olympics says...
'Backward Country People' nice to see the retarded townies still think they can control what goes on in and are superior rural communities. The 'practice' of hanging dead animals is usually done by arable farmers usually with crows/ pigeons though, as a means of a bird scarer. I dont in the slightest think this has anything to do with this incident though. And neither does the merits of fox hunting, i would pay money to suggest this act has been carried out by some juvinile with a high powered air rifle thinking he's all big and hard to shoot foxes, crows pigeons etc and nail them up, I am sorry but this has nothing to do with country people, it stinks of the thugs which come shooting on many a farmers land from tang hall, chaplefields and other chavy estates.
12:49pm Tue 3 Jan 12
"...I am sorry but this has nothing to do with country people, it stinks of the thugs which come shooting on many a farmers land from tang hall, chaplefields and other chavy estates."
H4O: I've read both this and the "successful hunt" story and have noted, if not agreed with, your opinions attached to both.
However, I find your last sentence here the most abhorrent and unpalatable of all your rhetoric. Do stop this self-aggrandizement – your abject snobbery’s making me feel decidedly uncomfortable!
Selbybadgerwatch
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6:34pm Tue 3 Jan 12
Hunting4olympics wrote:Reluctant though I am to become embroiled in a debate about TB and Badgers. I feel I must reply to this. FIRSTLY, there is NO bTb in Yorkshire whatsoever. Please confirm this with DEFRA, like I have just done. With regard to Hallmark Boxter the infamous bull at Forlorn Farm near Doncaster. Well this Bull never had TB and it was all down to a bungled TB test carried out by DEFRA and much to the relief of the Farmer.
Poto3626 there are many cases of bovine tb in our area there are farms in both east and north yorkshire currently closed down through TB and also look back at the highly public case of the Blonde Bull in Stubbswalden which poto for your uneducated self is in this area. So please get the facts before spouting off. A nearby farmer to myself is currently shut down with Bovine TB and if i see a badger i most cetainly will be removing of it. As for what went on at Howsham them fools should used for drag hunting and been allowed to feel what being ripped apart feels like I do agree with fox hunting but very much disagree with that act of CRUELTY. but do also very much support the organised badger cull.
There are many links confirming what I have just written, but the Yorkshire Post link is here
I am of the opinion that you are not from Yorkshire otherwise you would know that there is no Bovine TB in this area, there is no Bovine TB in Scotland, there have been two cases of Bovine TB in Cumbria, but this was caused through the movement of cattle and had nothing whatsoever to do with badgers.
http://www.yorkshire
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mickrick
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6:37pm Tue 3 Jan 12
Whistlejacket wrote:I was a scout that was shown how to kill and gut fish and rabbits, and we ate the lot round a camp fire.
I was in Morrison's the other day and there were dead fish and bits of pig on open display.
What's wrong with people nowadays?
Not that many years ago, scouts would have been shown how to kill and gut fish and rabbits. I don't suppose they needed trauma counselling afterwards.
If you think the sight of a decomposing animal corpse is too upsetting to bear, you probably should stay away from the countryside.
Memories brilliant.
Selbybadgerwatch
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6:39pm Tue 3 Jan 12
myselby wrote:My sentiments exactly. Whilst we were at Barlow Common Nature Reserve, a family had their dog running free all over the place, despite signs asking that dogs are kept leashed. When my friend asked the man why his dog was running around totally out of control, his reply was "Well, there's no-one here to stop me now is there?" It can only get worse folks !!
– pity the wardens are no longer there, expect more of this antisocial behavior were the foxes were called Crane and Nutt
Woody Mellor
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7:08pm Tue 3 Jan 12
Hel n Highwater wrote:I see that the vile excuse for a human being 'Hunting4olympics' has ceased commenting. I wonder why.
Hunting4olympics wrote:Hunting4olympics says...
'Backward Country People' nice to see the retarded townies still think they can control what goes on in and are superior rural communities. The 'practice' of hanging dead animals is usually done by arable farmers usually with crows/ pigeons though, as a means of a bird scarer. I dont in the slightest think this has anything to do with this incident though. And neither does the merits of fox hunting, i would pay money to suggest this act has been carried out by some juvinile with a high powered air rifle thinking he's all big and hard to shoot foxes, crows pigeons etc and nail them up, I am sorry but this has nothing to do with country people, it stinks of the thugs which come shooting on many a farmers land from tang hall, chaplefields and other chavy estates.
12:49pm Tue 3 Jan 12
"...I am sorry but this has nothing to do with country people, it stinks of the thugs which come shooting on many a farmers land from tang hall, chaplefields and other chavy estates."
H4O: I've read both this and the "successful hunt" story and have noted, if not agreed with, your opinions attached to both.
However, I find your last sentence here the most abhorrent and unpalatable of all your rhetoric. Do stop this self-aggrandizement – your abject snobbery’s making me feel decidedly uncomfortable!
damejane
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7:17pm Tue 3 Jan 12
The farmers near where I live will tolerate the odd bird being killed by a fox but if too many are taken, a marksmen ( not a local thug from the pub) is paid to shoot the animal and dispose of the body properly.
Thank you Mrs Clates for informing the authorities and letting the readers know just how sick and depraved some folk are who live amongst us.
Selbybadgerwatch
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7:40pm Tue 3 Jan 12
mickrick wrote:When I was a kid, my dad taught me how to skin and gut a rabbit, usually my own !! Times were tough.
Whistlejacket wrote: I was in Morrison's the other day and there were dead fish and bits of pig on open display. What's wrong with people nowadays? Not that many years ago, scouts would have been shown how to kill and gut fish and rabbits. I don't suppose they needed trauma counselling afterwards. If you think the sight of a decomposing animal corpse is too upsetting to bear, you probably should stay away from the countryside.I was a scout that was shown how to kill and gut fish and rabbits, and we ate the lot round a camp fire. Memories brilliant.
Hunting4olympics
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9:17am Wed 4 Jan 12
re is farms in East and North Yorkshire currently closed down with Bovine TB. and for your information DEFRA have NOTHING to do with bTB this is the proviso of Animal Health, Ring either Leeds or Lincoln they will advise you nice attempt mind. Unfortunately the farmer at Forlorn Hope Farm lost other animals besides this bull and these, from I understand were positive skin tests. I am sure you understand what this means. Given your far superior knowledge. I agree with you its not the badgers that have brought this horrific disease into Yorkshire. BUT they are known to assist the spread of it. The reason for it entering Yorkshire is selfish farmers buying cheap livestock in TB susceptible areas. It should be made law in the UK if you live in a 4 year parish as we do we can only buy from a 4 year parish. ( I'm sure you understand this given your clear knowledge of the situation SelbyBadgerWatch)
Prob
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12:57pm Wed 4 Jan 12
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Has broadband only just reached rural Yorkshire?
Hunting4olympics
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1:14pm Wed 4 Jan 12
poto3626
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2:52pm Wed 4 Jan 12
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs 11 11 http://
3.24. The ISG concluded in its final report in 2007 that, based on the RBCT results at that time and an economic assessment, badger culling, “could make no meaningful contribution to tackling bovine TB in Britain.” The group instead advised that increased cattle controls could achieve substantial reductions in bTB, based on modelling results vi.
We anticipate investing £20m in TB vaccine research and development over the next five years. However, there are still significant technical, practical and legal issues to overcome before these vaccines will be available; and so it is still likely to be many years before they can be used in the field.
Hunting4olympics
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3:42pm Wed 4 Jan 12
BigDog-LittleDog
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4:23pm Wed 4 Jan 12
Hunting4olympics wrote:Wow.
Selbybadgerwatch wrote:The hact u have badger watch in your title shows your complete failure to understand anything country! Badgers do more harm than any other animal in the countryside look at all the cattle farmers both dairy and beef losing their businesses through the disease spread by these worthless creatures.
sambo1943 wrote: why dramatise this article by saying its near a scout camp. foxes are vermin if the government had'nt stopped fox hunting ,people would'nt have to shoot foxes ,which is allot crueler than hunting and i'm not a member of any hunting fraternityI found the foxes, and in reply to another post, I am not a Townie, but born and bred in the Countryside and am familiar with the stringing up of foxes and other animals classed as vermin. To set the record straight the person who has hung the foxes up has a small holding with ducks, geese, turkeys, hens etc, he is having problems with foxes taking his birds. The dead foxes have been killed by snaring, he has used a free running snare and so has not committed any offence in killing the foxes. Hanging the foxes up on trees is known as a gibet line and it is an old fashioned thing that gamekeepers used to do to show the lord of the manor how good they were at vermin control. It is not an offence to have a gibet line. Being in close proximity to the now "unmanned" Barlow Common Nature Reserve and also the Scout Camp, the person responsible has agreed to take the foxes down and not put any more up.
"Worthless creatures".
Can you please provide a list of other "worthless creatures"?
We already have badgers. What else shall we rid from planet earth?
Here's a suggestion. People who believe there are such creatures as worthless ones.
Utterly shocking attitude. Disgusting.
selbyperson
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5:17pm Wed 4 Jan 12
helzwash
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7:10pm Wed 4 Jan 12
Grow a pair. Farmers and Gamekeepers always used to do this when hunting and killing vermin that attacked their crops, flocks or herds.
If it's private land the owner has total right to "hang them" on the tree.
If you don't want to see dead animals either killed naturally or by a human then stay out of the countryside.
What next? Complaining to the Press about seeing a roadkill by the side of the road? For chuff sake.
helzwash
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7:11pm Wed 4 Jan 12
helzwash
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7:16pm Wed 4 Jan 12
Hanging them up is just an old tradition and I don't see a problem with it, the animals are already dead so aren't suffering - and crows etc can pick at them for food. Get on with it.
fear your government
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7:12pm Thu 5 Jan 12
Hunting4olympics wrote:is he?
Prob, Seems you missed your vocation in life, Frankie Boyle is already the most unfunny comedian known to man ;)
i kinda like him...
remember the classic lady di joke..
"how shall we commemorate lady di"
"we could build a fountain"
"or we could always have a **** in a mine field"
an absolute classic...
GoodDoc
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7:32pm Thu 5 Jan 12
sambo1943 says...
9:31am Tue 3 Jan 12