Riders and hounds turn out for New Year’s Day hunts (From York Press)
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Riders and hounds turn out for New Year’s Day hunts
10:06am Monday 3rd January 2011 in News
DOZENS of riders turned out for traditional New Year’s Day hunts across North Yorkshire.
However, the frosty ground and icy conditions meant numbers were significantly lower than in previous years.
Joanna Newitt, secretary of the Middleton Hunt, said they had to change the hunt’s venue from Hunmanby to Scackleton, near Hovingham, due to the conditions.
She said: “About 20 riders did meet, but the weather conditions are still quite threatening, as there was quite a hard frost and still a lot of ice, so there weren’t as many as usual.”
In Helmsley, a crowd of about 100 people gathered in the market place to enjoy the spectacle of about 12 horses gathering for the Sinnington Hunt.
However, due to the hard ground, the riders then returned their horses to the stables before continuing on foot to Duncombe Park to exercise the hounds.
Meanwhile, about a dozen riders met for the Derwent Hunt outside The Hall Inn in Thornton-le-Dale, where landlord Glen Barker brought out drinks for them.
He said: “It wasn’t a very big turn-out because of the weather. You can’t chance the horses breaking a leg.”
Comments(35)
pedalling paul
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10:48am Mon 3 Jan 11
Woody Mellor
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11:15am Mon 3 Jan 11
Caecilius
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12:03pm Mon 3 Jan 11
I wonder if the bloke in the red coat is telling the fox "We're all in this together"......
GoodDoc
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12:13pm Mon 3 Jan 11
Pete the Brickie
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12:20pm Mon 3 Jan 11
Theendoftheworld
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3:04pm Mon 3 Jan 11
spockboy
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4:18pm Mon 3 Jan 11
GoodDoc wrote:Hope you and all yours die this year you sad wind up moron !!!!!!!
Good to see it still surviving, even on years when the weather's like this! I was in Wiltshire for Christmas and they had fewer ice problems - it was the largest meet for several years (and they bagged a few foxes too... shhh).
Ben Guela
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4:43pm Mon 3 Jan 11
Woody Mellor wrote:I second it.
Why does the press continue to report these non news events? I for one am not interested in the re-enactment of an evil and cruel past time.
Moronic killing animals as sick.
Simply sick.
redr
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4:50pm Mon 3 Jan 11
Nice to know the name of the pub to boycott.
AnotherPointofView
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5:32pm Mon 3 Jan 11
Ben Guela wrote:Ever seen evidence of a fox going through a hen hut? That's when you know what sick is.
Woody Mellor wrote: Why does the press continue to report these non news events? I for one am not interested in the re-enactment of an evil and cruel past time.I second it. Moronic killing animals as sick. Simply sick.
Alucard
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6:44pm Mon 3 Jan 11
AnotherPointofView wrote:Have, but does that justify so called civilised humans dressing up like Christmas trees and making a sport out of a chase and hunt? No
Ben Guela wrote:Ever seen evidence of a fox going through a hen hut? That's when you know what sick is.Woody Mellor wrote: Why does the press continue to report these non news events? I for one am not interested in the re-enactment of an evil and cruel past time.I second it. Moronic killing animals as sick. Simply sick.
But not many are caught they say - so why argue it controls fox numbers
Woody Mellor
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8:19pm Mon 3 Jan 11
AnotherPointofView wrote:In my book a fox killing other animals to survive is nature.
Ben Guela wrote:Ever seen evidence of a fox going through a hen hut? That's when you know what sick is.
Woody Mellor wrote: Why does the press continue to report these non news events? I for one am not interested in the re-enactment of an evil and cruel past time.I second it. Moronic killing animals as sick. Simply sick.
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Humans drinking, dressing up, riding horses and training packs of dogs to chase a wild animal down to exhaustion and watching it being ripped to pieces whilst still alive IS sick!
melted
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8:23am Tue 4 Jan 11
redr wrote:and I suppose you are in the hall every night, o goodie, lets damage another business and threaten a few more jobs,it doesn't matter that nobody is breaking the law and fox's are not being hunted!I am against blood sports but I am also against mindless morons and anonymous little bullys
The Hall Inn in Thornton-le-Dale, where landlord Glen Barker brought out drinks for them. Nice to know the name of the pub to boycott.
Hunting4olympics
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10:30am Tue 4 Jan 11
Clearly know nothing about fox hunting which lets be honest is just pest control. So therefore are you saying pest controllers who kill all types of vermin should be banned also. If hunting was actually outlawed loads more foxes would be killed and far less humanely as not all farmers are perfect shots with ther guns.... also as someone who has used one wire fox traps are not exactly a nice way for a fox to die, and the landlord of thornton le dale pub is hardly going to be bothered about some narrow minded half wit not using his pub, as i dont imagine your a freauent visitor as it is.
redr
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2:44pm Tue 4 Jan 11
melted wrote:Okay so let’s take your points one at a time shall we. No I’m not in this pub every night and now that I know that the person who runs it supports this despicable mob I never will be. No it doesn’t matter that no one is breaking the law although if they are hunting with a pack of dogs they are. Above the law there is something called humanity, I simply wouldn’t want to spend my hard earned money in an establishment that displays so little. Any business that enjoys or supports this barbaric sport deserves little sympathy in my opinion. Mindless Moron? Perhaps, that’s not for me to judge. Anonymous, indeed as are you so therefore you are a hypocrite. Bully, in what way? Because I choose not to support these hypocrites who one minute are claiming that they are controlling vermin and in the next claim that they no longer hunt to kill. Please melted try to grow out of your childish bullying tantrums before contributing again, have a nice day :-)
redr wrote: The Hall Inn in Thornton-le-Dale, where landlord Glen Barker brought out drinks for them. Nice to know the name of the pub to boycott.and I suppose you are in the hall every night, o goodie, lets damage another business and threaten a few more jobs,it doesn't matter that nobody is breaking the law and fox's are not being hunted!I am against blood sports but I am also against mindless morons and anonymous little bullys
GoodDoc
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7:14pm Tue 4 Jan 11
spockboy wrote:The feeling is mutual: I've never cared much for the opinions of under-educated, self-confessed racists - I'm sure you're as clued up about rural affairs as you are anything else. I suspect if they were hunting immigrants you'd soon pipe down.
GoodDoc wrote:Hope you and all yours die this year you sad wind up moron !!!!!!!
Good to see it still surviving, even on years when the weather's like this! I was in Wiltshire for Christmas and they had fewer ice problems - it was the largest meet for several years (and they bagged a few foxes too... shhh).
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I'm tired of arguing this particular cause out with people that have zero understanding about this kind of thing. You simply cannot convince people that just don't know, and don't want to know about what actually happens. But stick with the line of those poor innocent fluffy foxes being 'ripped to shreds' by bloodthirsty hounds and toffs on horse-back. That's what you want to believe, so believe it. I can assure you it won't change the opinions of anyone who does this regularly, and from what I've seen numbers are increasing. Some ban that turned out to be.
GoodDoc
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7:17pm Tue 4 Jan 11
Hunting4olympics wrote:Take your knowledge elsewhere, lad! This is no place for experience! Of course trapping is kinder. Gassing too. And every farmer I know is an expert marksman. And they all have enough money to surround their farms with 6 ft high, 6 ft deep fences! And they all smear the fox's entrails on their face afterwards. Honest. I read a PETA leaflet once.
Nice to see the clueless townies are commenting again.
Clearly know nothing about fox hunting which lets be honest is just pest control. So therefore are you saying pest controllers who kill all types of vermin should be banned also. If hunting was actually outlawed loads more foxes would be killed and far less humanely as not all farmers are perfect shots with ther guns.... also as someone who has used one wire fox traps are not exactly a nice way for a fox to die, and the landlord of thornton le dale pub is hardly going to be bothered about some narrow minded half wit not using his pub, as i dont imagine your a freauent visitor as it is.
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Woody Mellor
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8:22pm Tue 4 Jan 11
Fellowtraveller1
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9:37pm Tue 4 Jan 11
Hunting4olympics
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8:42am Wed 5 Jan 11
And Woody if you call winning making something your against more popular and more enjoyable than ever then so be it, long live the thrill of killing foxes, after all, all types of vermin need controlling.
And GoodDoc and of course every farmer can just go out and buy a new flock of lambs once fantastic mr fox has had his night of fun in the sheep fields!!!!!!!!!!!
Woody Mellor
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9:07am Wed 5 Jan 11
Its banned, its history. We won, you lost. End of. :o)
Hunting4olympics
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9:15am Wed 5 Jan 11
GoodDoc
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5:06pm Wed 5 Jan 11
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As for the 'sadistic perverts' type of comment, it's been done to death. People hunt because they're bloodthirsty? So even though perhaps 3 or 4 hunters will be near enough to the front to see it, that's their reason right? Just silly. Clutching at straws.
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Of course there are bunny-huggers in the countryside too, and many folk out there have barely set foot on a farm. There are also working class farmers who hunt, without red jackets and blue blood etc. The fact remains that the vast majority of people voting against hunting were from urban areas. The alternatives people suggest are either impossible or far crueller and I have yet to meet someone who opposes a hunt yet has actually had first-hand experience of one. I think that says it all. I don't personally hunt, but I think their case to continue is far stronger as it doesn't rely on PETA propaganda and misinformation. At the end of the day, if it's banned, stop them. If you can't stop them, tough cheese!
Fellowtraveller1
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8:13pm Wed 5 Jan 11
Your use of it shows the shallow level of your thought process. It really isn't a case of 'bunny hugging', but aiming for a civilised society. Would you also say that charges of arrogance levelled at the hunting twaternity have also been done to death? Your comments and attitude would justify them.
At least have the honesty to admit that hunters hunt for pleasure.
Which takes us back to 'sadistic perverts' - no less true because it has oft been said.
Woody Mellor
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8:47pm Wed 5 Jan 11
You lost guys, you and your old barbaric ways are not wanted or appreciated, your a fast dwindling breed.
Just accept it.
Lots of love, A.Bunny Hugger.
Tally Ho!
Hunting4olympics
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1:20pm Thu 6 Jan 11
Fellow traveller, now it would appear your very chirlish attitude is the probem here no one elses, 'hunting twaternity' aren't you clever..... remember the good old proverb a closed mouth gathers no foot!!!!!
GoodDoc
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7:08pm Thu 6 Jan 11
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I don't mean to patronise, but do you see the difference between hunting for some kind of pleasure (being outdoors, exercise, riding, unpredictable chase, being a part of tradition etc etc) is very different from being a 'sadistic pervert' -this not only suggests that it's purely the suffering that hunters enjoy (despite hardly any of them ever witnessing it) but also that they derive some kind of sexual pleasure from it. If you don't realise that kind of claim is wildly untrue, desperate defamation and does the protesters a huge disservice, then frankly you're not going to follow any argument at all.
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I think in a civilised society people inform themselves before judging, aquaint themselves with those more closely involved, and do not inflict their views on others.
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And another bizarre, self-congratulory comment. Even the original law-makers agree that it has been an entirely unenforcable and much-ignored regulation. I advise you to visit Wiltshire, Surrey, the Westcountry etc on Boxing Day if you feel the hunters are dying out. As I said, from my first-person experience, it's bigger than ever. Sorry to bring you bad news.
Fellowtraveller1
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12:12am Fri 7 Jan 11
Conduct in a civilised society? - I'm not sure where the gleeful flouting of the law fits in with this - but then perhaps it fits in with a perverse viewpoint.
As for acqainting oneself with those involved - I have done, and have found that they will tell you any old crap in order to justify their conduct.
And if you want to ride around in the open air, diddums can always go drag hunting.
TTFN
spockboy
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9:41am Fri 7 Jan 11
GoodDoc wrote:you really have major issues with people in your perfect world Doc (lets pray you are not a real Doctor ).
spockboy wrote:The feeling is mutual: I've never cared much for the opinions of under-educated, self-confessed racists - I'm sure you're as clued up about rural affairs as you are anything else. I suspect if they were hunting immigrants you'd soon pipe down.
GoodDoc wrote:Hope you and all yours die this year you sad wind up moron !!!!!!!
Good to see it still surviving, even on years when the weather's like this! I was in Wiltshire for Christmas and they had fewer ice problems - it was the largest meet for several years (and they bagged a few foxes too... shhh).
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I'm tired of arguing this particular cause out with people that have zero understanding about this kind of thing. You simply cannot convince people that just don't know, and don't want to know about what actually happens. But stick with the line of those poor innocent fluffy foxes being 'ripped to shreds' by bloodthirsty hounds and toffs on horse-back. That's what you want to believe, so believe it. I can assure you it won't change the opinions of anyone who does this regularly, and from what I've seen numbers are increasing. Some ban that turned out to be.
I wonder how many friends you have,I picture you as a well educated loner sat reading the times in a backwater pub,maybe day dreaming about perfect world harmony,while you observe a photo of a poor Brit shot up by the desert jockeys in a pointless war and getting a bit of joy from it.
You envy all the people around you who are able to poke fun at life because you are a bore.
it annoys you that I am an under-educated, self-confessed racist with a point to make,I find it so amusing that you do.
No I would not like to see anyone chase and kill any human what ever colour they are,but would pull a rider off a horse chasing a defenceless creature who seeks sick perverted fun, and get immense pleasure from it.
I look forward to more rants in the coming year.
TheTruthHurts
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4:14pm Fri 7 Jan 11
Holderness has a steady increase of members year on year, and majority are children or young adults,
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but i bet they are not from a broad section though... yah?
GoodDoc
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6:11pm Fri 7 Jan 11
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Spockboy, frankly that's not worth replying to. If you're expecting any credibility whilst dropping in terms like 'Desert Jockey' then you're mistaken. You think pest control is wrong and immoral; I think racial prejudice is wrong and immoral. We'll agree to disagree, if you can manage that.`
Woody Mellor
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7:58pm Fri 7 Jan 11
You know and they know, we all know that they do not do it as pest control they do it for fun! And if chasing an animal whose only crime is instinct and survival then the hunters ARE sadistic.
spockboy
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9:43pm Fri 7 Jan 11
GoodDoc wrote:yes fair enough .
Fellowtrav - I did say that 'perverts' suggested sexual deviance, which it does. If you mean someone with a differing viewpoint, there are far better ways of saying that without the sexual connotation. But then, where's the fun in that? When a ban is unjustified, undersupported and unenforcable, I would expect *any* society to take it with a pinch of salt. I suffer from having seen the truth, which is why I object hugely to these pathetic tabloid rants about toffs and sadists ripping animals apart. It speaks of huge ignorance about the damage foxes do, the process of hunting, and the kind of people who normally hunt.
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Spockboy, frankly that's not worth replying to. If you're expecting any credibility whilst dropping in terms like 'Desert Jockey' then you're mistaken. You think pest control is wrong and immoral; I think racial prejudice is wrong and immoral. We'll agree to disagree, if you can manage that.`
GoodDoc
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2:29am Sat 8 Jan 11
Woody Mellor wrote:I know and they know - apparently you don't - that they do it for both, and many other reasons. If you think a sport like this is ever done for one simple reason, you're being a little naive. I suppose killing a coop full of birds to take one is survival to you is it? And if pest control isn't allowed to target creatures living off instinct, let's let those cockroaches, rats and headlice live in peace. Or aren't they cute enough for you?
Oh for Christs sake GoodDoc! Get real!!
You know and they know, we all know that they do not do it as pest control they do it for fun! And if chasing an animal whose only crime is instinct and survival then the hunters ARE sadistic.
bloodaxe says...
10:44am Mon 3 Jan 11
I bet they don't have that milksop attitude in Ambridge.
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