Passengers to get say on York bus services (From York Press)
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Passengers to get say on York bus services
9:20am Wednesday 8th September 2010 in
RESIDENTS in York are to be quizzed about their views on local bus services, including what they think about fares and the reliability of the network.
A decision session for City of York Council’s executive member for city strategy, Coun Steve Galloway, has seen officers asked to include questions centred around the city’s bus system on a future survey, which will be backed up through an online poll and also seek opinions on speed, comfort and accessibility.
It came after Labour group leader James Alexander organised a petition calling for a freeze in First York bus fares, an end to service cuts and a review of services on the edge of York to ensure villages have enough access to buses.
Coun Galloway said the privatisation of bus services had proved to be “flawed”, but the cost of reversing this was likely to be “beyond the resources available to central Government in difficult economic times.”
Comments(43)
Beagleboy
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9:43am Wed 8 Sep 10
LocalWolf
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9:56am Wed 8 Sep 10
Perhaps if there were not so many buses parked at station rise while their drivers went for a smoke the service would be better.
jaycee
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10:00am Wed 8 Sep 10
jaycee
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10:06am Wed 8 Sep 10
Freetrade
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10:13am Wed 8 Sep 10
shiftywillow
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10:24am Wed 8 Sep 10
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However I disagree with FY's policy to cut down on early morning and late evening services. Many of these services are well used, the late night No' 10 (run by York Pullman) was packed last week. They are a god-send to those who are unfortunate enough not to be able to afford and maintain a car.
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Buses are supposed to be a public service, so the well used services should subsidise the less well used. I hope the results of the survey will ensure these services are maintained.
ballistic
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10:32am Wed 8 Sep 10
There will be more accidents to come !!
AdmiralNN
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10:33am Wed 8 Sep 10
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I was on the number 10 a while ago and some girl (mid 20's!) was eating some kind of mayonaisse sarnie and just threw her carton on the floor and splattered everywhere. I asked her wether she was going to pick it up and just got the usual verbal. But litter is only an issue if the lazy and ignorant cant be bothered to put it in a bin when they get off, there is one at most stops.
frank west
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10:35am Wed 8 Sep 10
Beagleboy wrote:Spot on BB.
I will say this. FIRST YORK operate a terrible unreliable service. Most buses are late and some don't even turn up at all. The fares are a rip off. The drivers are moody, miserable and unhelpful. The buses are often dirty and covered in litter. FIRST YORK do not deserve to operate a bus service in this city.
You neglected to add: Chances of Galloway bothering to look at the results of Consultation 501456332 of the year ZERO
charles dance
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10:43am Wed 8 Sep 10
Beagleboy
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10:47am Wed 8 Sep 10
frank west
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11:10am Wed 8 Sep 10
Beagleboy wrote:Or that the kids single ticket went up 17% recently without any notification at all?
Does anybody think a day return from Acomb Shops to the Station is good value for money at £3.20?
sheps lad
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11:13am Wed 8 Sep 10
Beagleboy wrote:Why not get a few of your mates to share a taxi?
Does anybody think a day return from Acomb Shops to the Station is good value for money at £3.20?
Beagleboy
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11:18am Wed 8 Sep 10
Clickclick
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11:25am Wed 8 Sep 10
Beagleboy wrote:Better in manchester where there's no return option and a day ticket costs you £4.10.
Does anybody think a day return from Acomb Shops to the Station is good value for money at £3.20?
Clickclick
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11:26am Wed 8 Sep 10
charles dance
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11:31am Wed 8 Sep 10
Beagleboy wrote:What about a single from Clarence Street to Acomb Shops. £2.80. For a single.
Does anybody think a day return from Acomb Shops to the Station is good value for money at £3.20?
charles dance
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12:23pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Clickclick wrote:Manchester is massive compared to York, so I dont see the relevance.
Better than in Manchester even.
ballistic
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12:52pm Wed 8 Sep 10
moneyforwhat
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12:57pm Wed 8 Sep 10
ballistic wrote:spot on comment. In times when spending is supposed to be managed with great care so much money is wasted. I'm not averse to change but when change is not improvement and costs loads PLUS is actually dangerous then I despair. This consultation about the buses is bizarre. These things are never a consultation really as people rarely get what they hope for. We have a lot of examples of this in York. I think it indicates that they do not have appropiate people doing a job, else why else would they as Joe Public for his (free) input to sort things out. They are obviously looking for someone's free brainwave. Any other theory aside it does coincide with the scrapping of 80% of fuel tax rebate.
Get rid of the bus lane on Fulford Rd.. There will be more accidents to come !!
spiritofyork
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1:31pm Wed 8 Sep 10
bass
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1:35pm Wed 8 Sep 10
sheps lad
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1:52pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Beagleboy wrote:Why?
Don't answer a question with a question.
oldgoat
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2:33pm Wed 8 Sep 10
It's not hard!
mystic_genius
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4:19pm Wed 8 Sep 10
moneyforwhat wrote:They do not look for a free brainwave, they look for a free scapegoat. When it all goes t1ts up, they will say "well, we ran a consultation, and the public said they wanted ****". What they fail to realise is that a) the consultations are always rigged to give one answer and b) the public are not transport experts, they pay people in the council to be transport experts (ha!).
ballistic wrote: Get rid of the bus lane on Fulford Rd.. There will be more accidents to come !!spot on comment. In times when spending is supposed to be managed with great care so much money is wasted. I'm not averse to change but when change is not improvement and costs loads PLUS is actually dangerous then I despair. This consultation about the buses is bizarre. These things are never a consultation really as people rarely get what they hope for. We have a lot of examples of this in York. I think it indicates that they do not have appropiate people doing a job, else why else would they as Joe Public for his (free) input to sort things out. They are obviously looking for someone's free brainwave. Any other theory aside it does coincide with the scrapping of 80% of fuel tax rebate.
SJyork
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4:31pm Wed 8 Sep 10
redblueblur
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4:57pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Henry Swanson
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5:38pm Wed 8 Sep 10
BigJon
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6:40pm Wed 8 Sep 10
bass wrote:Yes, the definition of 'regular intervals' is written on the No6 timetable......it is along the lines of "at least 6 buses per hour with 15mins at most between buses".
Anyone know what the "regular intervals" for the number 6 are? Seems to be anywhere between 20-40 minutes. Which is approximately how much time I waste waiting for the **** things every day.
Whilst I've had to wait longer at peak times, obviously due to levels of other traffic holding the buses up, I have caught the No6 nearly every morning/evening to go to/from work at non-peak times and it has been on time probably 99% over the last year
BigJon
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6:51pm Wed 8 Sep 10
frank west wrote:Weren't the price increases announced in The Press on July 16th, and notices posted in the front of the buses themselves for a period before the increase?......or was i just imagining that I red them?
Beagleboy wrote:Or that the kids single ticket went up 17% recently without any notification at all?
Does anybody think a day return from Acomb Shops to the Station is good value for money at £3.20?
DAVE GOODWIN
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9:18pm Wed 8 Sep 10
Stevie D
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9:39pm Wed 8 Sep 10
sheps lad wrote:Why do you think?
Beagleboy wrote:Why?
Don't answer a question with a question.
Stevie D
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9:49pm Wed 8 Sep 10
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Most of the suburban and village services run by Arriva, Transdev, HCT, Pullman and Stephensons are subsidised, and therefore controlled, by the council, but the complaints are very rarely about these services.
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The answer is for all the people who so have a choice between First and another company to always use the other company, even if it is a less frequent service. If you have a choice but continue to use First, you are complicit in them keeping their monopoly position!
TooRelaxed
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11:35pm Wed 8 Sep 10
When I stuck my arm out this evening to turn right on Hull Road with plenty of space the East Yorkshire bus driver didn't feel a bike was worth slowing down for so he gave me an angry beeeeep and mouthed off from the window of his double decker as he passed me on the inside. Apparently I didn't move from left to right quickly enough. Silly me!
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Anti-cycle prejudice at its finest. If I was driving a car, looking behind me with my mirror, indicating and moving across would mean the bus driver behind me would instinctively slow down, so why not when I'm on my bike? Is the bike lesser then the car? If I'm signalling intent in the car, why am I asking permission on my bike?
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Bus survey? I don't care about timetables and cuts in services because my experience is aggressive and dangerous driving of the biggest vehicles on the road.
Are you listening customer services?
euroinforitnow
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8:24am Thu 9 Sep 10
jaycee wrote:I'd agree that the drivers are often very pleasant but the double deckers are shocking. In Oxford and district Stagecoach operate brand new hybrid buses. The First buses are falling apart and I've been on two which have failed. Buses are supposed to work to a timetable but Number 1 buses come in small herds at times. It's a service which has deteriorated very rapidly in the last three years. However I have no faith that a survey will achieve anything. Unfortunately the answer is to pay more through taxation to provide better services which all can enjoy. It won't happen.
Goodness me Beagleboy boy how many shoulders do you have ? -you seem to have a chip on every one of them.I travel on the number 1 every day and this morning it turned up on time ,the driver had some banter with the passengers and it was clean.However,just to keep you happy, on the bus coming home last night I spotted some discarded sweet papers and lo and behold a copy of the Metro thrown indiscriminately on the seat where I was going to sit.Sack the First York cleaners !
jaycee
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9:23am Thu 9 Sep 10
invisibleman
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12:48pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Zebedee
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1:45pm Thu 9 Sep 10
B.Dole
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1:02am Fri 10 Sep 10
Zebedee wrote:Agreed!
Galloway - why are you wasting even more money? The survey is completely pointless. If you have an ounce of decency do the decent thing and resign immediately. I don't care who replaces you - they are guaranteed to be more effective and won't waste anything like as much money as you do.
This city is in a state, the blame for 90% of the problems lay's squarely on Galloway's shoulders. Oh, and take that wretched Reid woman with you!
bagpuss73
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6:15pm Fri 10 Sep 10
DAVE GOODWIN
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8:40pm Fri 10 Sep 10
dj175
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9:58pm Fri 10 Sep 10
Before coun Galloway has a go at the bus operators he should explain why from next April there is going massive cuts to bus services in and around York.
Just see here - http://www.northyork
stravel.info/pdf/bus
_reduction.pdf
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pedalling paul says...
9:31am Wed 8 Sep 10
I will welcome any measures which supress unneccessary peak time car use, and enables buses to have artiicial priority (along with cyclists of course).
That will make the best use of our road network, and also make life easier for essential motor vehicle traffic.