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York businesses told to buy own anti-crime CCTV

BUSINESSES in York which want more CCTV protection are being told they will have to find the money for it themselves.

City of York Council is to take a new stance on the city’s network of cameras after officers warned providing more of the devices through the authority’s coffers would stretch budgets too far.

A report going before the authority’s executive tomorrow has identified “serious issues” about how the system can be funded and operated in the future, saying its success in combating crime and antisocial behaviour has sparked growing demand for its expansion.

The council has more than 70 cameras across the city and trials of digital “internet protocol” systems, which use wireless services such as 3G and could offer cheaper alternatives in certain locations, are now under way.

It also plans to switch from analogue to digital fibre-optic lines next year to save money, but the report by the council’s transport systems manager, Darren Capes, and transport systems technician Christian Wood says that while CCTV systems can be included within major road schemes, organisations wanting to see them elsewhere need to find the funding first.

“Due to the system’s success in dealing with crime and disorder, and acting as a tool for managing the city’s transport network, there is constant pressure to expand the system,” said the officers.

“While in principle there is no problem with this, there are issues around staffing levels and ongoing revenue commitment which need to be addressed. Where new cameras are required for non-highway-related purposes, it falls onto the party promoting their provision to provide funding.

“The issue which is less well understood by parties promoting the expansion of CCTV coverage is the need to provide ongoing revenue support for each camera. Fixed line fibre-optic cameras require between £2,000 and £5,000 per annum to cover costs.”

The executive has been recommended to approve a formal policy for the CCTV system, which will require organisations seeking more cameras to outline how they will pay for them.


Why no cameras?

A COUNCILLOR is to investigate why her ward has no CCTV coverage, despite the area being hit by a string of violent incidents.

Coun Sonja Crisp, who represents Holgate, plans to delve into crime statistics for the area to see if a drive to install cameras, which can be funded by ward committees, should be launched.

“There are CCTV cameras across much of Guildhall, Micklegate and Fishergate, but none in our ward and only two in Westfield, both of which have experienced serious incidents,” she said.

“There are a number of areas which we, as ward councillors, feel would benefit from having cameras to improve safety for residents. The bridge from Railway Terrace to Cinder Lane is one, following a robbery there, while a recent knife robbery in Jubilee Terrace has indicated further cameras could be needed.”

Comments(18)

Ignatius Lumpopo says...
10:43am Mon 6 Sep 10

What "success in dealing with crime and disorder"? Even if the system monitors crime and disorder, it takes people - the police - to respond to it effectively and, from out here in the real world, there's still too much evidence of crime and disorder NOT being successfully dealt with.

jaycee says...
11:03am Mon 6 Sep 10

I presume the definition of a business as far as the council is concerned doesn't incude taxis and the provision of £400 cctv facilities is still going ahead.Pander to the taxis but forget businesses who pay their fair share of business rates into the council coffers.

Silver says...
11:19am Mon 6 Sep 10

jaycee wrote:
I presume the definition of a business as far as the council is concerned doesn't incude taxis and the provision of £400 cctv facilities is still going ahead.Pander to the taxis but forget businesses who pay their fair share of business rates into the council coffers.
**** you beat me to it

LibDem says...
11:58am Mon 6 Sep 10

The Council don't fund taxi CCTV.
CCTV in sub urban areas like Holgate and Westfield are provided through the Ward Committees. The fact that Westfield has some reflects the proactive work done by Liberal Democrat Councillors who represent that area.
On the other hand Holgate’s Labour Councillors haven't made a case for the provision of any CCTV coverage in their ward.
The new technologies becoming available mean that cameras can be moved from location to location and can be used to address any emerging crime issues while substantially reducing costs.

frank west says...
12:13pm Mon 6 Sep 10

LibDem wrote:
The Council don't fund taxi CCTV. CCTV in sub urban areas like Holgate and Westfield are provided through the Ward Committees. The fact that Westfield has some reflects the proactive work done by Liberal Democrat Councillors who represent that area. On the other hand Holgate’s Labour Councillors haven't made a case for the provision of any CCTV coverage in their ward. The new technologies becoming available mean that cameras can be moved from location to location and can be used to address any emerging crime issues while substantially reducing costs.
Self congratulation is no recommendation Mr G.

charles dance says...
1:01pm Mon 6 Sep 10

jaycee wrote:
I presume the definition of a business as far as the council is concerned doesn't incude taxis and the provision of £400 cctv facilities is still going ahead.Pander to the taxis but forget businesses who pay their fair share of business rates into the council coffers.
Bang on!

charles dance says...
1:08pm Mon 6 Sep 10

LibDem wrote:
The Council don't fund taxi CCTV. CCTV in sub urban areas like Holgate and Westfield are provided through the Ward Committees. The fact that Westfield has some reflects the proactive work done by Liberal Democrat Councillors who represent that area. On the other hand Holgate’s Labour Councillors haven't made a case for the provision of any CCTV coverage in their ward. The new technologies becoming available mean that cameras can be moved from location to location and can be used to address any emerging crime issues while substantially reducing costs.
I think you should read this article Libdem, where it says your very own licensing manager has been trialling it in taxis. http://www.yorkpress
.co.uk/news/8360683.
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Also, the funding would come from the safer york partnership, which council tax payers pay for. So it does not matter how you dress it up, it would be the York council tax payer who would pay for cctv on a private business, in this instance a taxi, yet people who are already paying extortionate business rates in shops get no help off the GREEDY Lib Dums.

frank west says...
1:58pm Mon 6 Sep 10

The censorship brigade are out again I see. Is it now forbidden to mention the name of G unless in a crawling manner. So much for a free country. The man is a dictator who should go the same way as Caeusescu ie put against a wall and executed.
We live in a FREE country. Accept that Galloway and your Press lackies.Or go and Feck yourselves.

AdmiralNN says...
2:06pm Mon 6 Sep 10

Funny how libdem always makes one statement which usually disputes the story or an earlier commenter and quickly scuttles off never to be heard from again.......

frank west says...
2:33pm Mon 6 Sep 10

AdmiralNN wrote:
Funny how libdem always makes one statement which usually disputes the story or an earlier commenter and quickly scuttles off never to be heard from again.......
Back to pull Waller's strings probably.

david_york says...
4:33pm Mon 6 Sep 10

Im no big supporter of what the Lib Dems have done to York but what really gets my back up are the labour lot who seem to use any opportunity to get their pictures in the paper, even when the issues we caused by the last labour government!

pedalling paul says...
5:00pm Mon 6 Sep 10

More CCTV cover of cycle racks please........

Chumpy says...
6:47pm Mon 6 Sep 10

pedalling paul wrote:
More CCTV cover of cycle racks please........
You just cannot help mentioning cycles can you Paul....is it true you dont have a saddle, just a seat post you just love to ease yourself onto....or is it just an urban myth.

Soothsayer17 says...
7:14pm Mon 6 Sep 10

Chumpy wrote:
pedalling paul wrote: More CCTV cover of cycle racks please........
You just cannot help mentioning cycles can you Paul....is it true you dont have a saddle, just a seat post you just love to ease yourself onto....or is it just an urban myth.
Magnifique!
.
That's even better than the "I hope a goose craps on your head" comment of the weekend.

Beagleboy says...
7:28pm Mon 6 Sep 10

I saw Pedalling Paul last night cycling through town. He was wearing purple cords and a bright orange anorak and he had some wacky goggles taped to his wacky head. I also noticed he had a ghetto blaster on his shoulder playing music by Desmond Dekker. What a cool cool geezer.

pedalling paul says...
9:25pm Mon 6 Sep 10

No another doppleganger!! How many do I have?

King Edward says...
9:40pm Mon 6 Sep 10

As a business owner, I would say your money is better spent on razor wire and a bull terrier, or rottweiler. Then there is no CCTV record of the malsfeasant being mauled to death after cutting himself breaking in and the dog smelling his blood and going for him. Once they get the taste for flesh they are better guardians of your property! Even better to train with the killword as chav.

Garrowby Turnoff says...
11:48pm Mon 6 Sep 10

"Punch-ups on Taxi TV..!"
.
I feel a new ChavTV program in the making...

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