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Fire rips through Club Salvation nightclub in George Hudson Street, York


Updated: A FIRE ripped through a York nightclub, devastating the first, second and third floors.

The fire began at Club Salvation, in George Hudson Street, shortly after 4am on Saturday when the venue had closed. An hour earlier, hundreds of people had been dancing in the club.

The blaze began on the first floor open-roofed smoking area and was spotted by head doorman Richard Peel who was nearby. He raised the alarm and the staff members who were in the club were evacuated.

Mark Lawrence, who deals with promotions for Club Salvation, tried to tackle the fire, which he said was in the middle of the smoking area.

He said: “When I got there I got an extinguisher, but there was no chance. The flames were too high and it was too hot.”

Firefighters from York, Acomb, Huntington and Tadcaster were sent to the scene as was an aerial ladder and they used breathing apparatus and hoses.

The road outside was closed and the fire was brought under control by 6.45am, but the wooden outside smoking area on the first floor was gutted as were offices on the second and third floors.

The main part of the club on the ground floor suffered smoke and water damage, but the club’s management team said they hoped to reopen by next Thursday.

Adam Cook, marketing and promotions manager, said: “The best thing was there was nobody hurt and nobody trapped in the building.”

He paid tribute to the firefighters.

He said: “Two firefighters came straight away, they were pretty quick.”

He said the main part of the club on the ground floor needs cleaning, painting and some new carpets but escaped serious damage. He said it would give the club’s management the chance to give it a new look.

He said Club Salvation’s sister venue, BPM, would be opening as usual.

North Yorkshire Fire & Rescue Service said it was investigating the cause of the blaze.

Comments(76)

T.Smith says...
9:19am Sat 31 Jul 10

Oh well, there goes my nightlife

jt says...
9:20am Sat 31 Jul 10

"An investigation is currently been carried out to determine the cause of the blaze".
O.M.G!

keepitshut says...
9:25am Sat 31 Jul 10

I picked up a "flyer" for this place early this morning offering entry for £2 tonight, is the place opening tonight?

taken for a mug says...
9:35am Sat 31 Jul 10

When I first read it I hoped it wasn't Ziggys... if that place went up the headlines could be shockingly different.

taken for a mug says...
9:49am Sat 31 Jul 10

On another note it says in the article the club was closed but I thought it was open till 4:30am?

jt says...
10:13am Sat 31 Jul 10

jt wrote:
"An investigation is currently been carried out to determine the cause of the blaze". O.M.G!
Soon corrected that one!

mumof4andahalf says...
10:39am Sat 31 Jul 10

Wooden smoking area.....hmmm kind of inevitable then!!!

yo30 dan says...
10:50am Sat 31 Jul 10

I can think of a few other places on Micklegate i'd like to see burned down too.

northernlight62 says...
11:26am Sat 31 Jul 10

boooooo

Maquis says...
11:55am Sat 31 Jul 10

There are some really mean spirited people in York. Why do you use this site just to spout hate.
I dont personaly use this place, but a lot of people enjoy going there, so its sad that it is damaged.

Guy Fawkes says...
12:03pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Smoking area?! I thought smoking had been outlawed in all enclosed public places, private members' clubs included. When the ban came in, people who ran working mens' clubs and other private members' drinking places were complaining like mad about it. Was this an outside yard or something?

From the photos it seemed like everyone had a very lucky escape for there to have been no injuries. Without wanting to sound like a killjoy, the question now has to be asked if the back yard areas that many pubs and bars have opened up since the smoking ban are really safe. I can think of several in York in which the combination of wooden tables, fabric awnings and in some cases gas-fired patio heaters don't exactly fill me with confidence. All it would take is someone who's had a drink too many to knock one over on a crowded Saturday night...

madmick99 says...
12:12pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Guy Fawkes, the smoking area is on the first floor, a kind of terrace with no roof but 8ft walls so not really sure how they got away with it, bearing in mind it was made of wood! Well BPM it is for tonight then, they have smoke machines but less realistic..

pedalling paul says...
12:15pm Sat 31 Jul 10

You can put a bomb under the lot as far as I'm concerned. I'm fed up of trying to cycle along Micklegate in the evening, with drunks and revellers staggering about in the road. I've even had idiots trying to knock me off and chase after me........which of you was it.....

King Edward says...
12:47pm Sat 31 Jul 10

The less places there are like this the better, would we all not prefer a friendly, clean, crime free city? Binge drinkers are a blight on the NHS, Council and Justice system. Curfew anyone?

northernlight62 says...
12:52pm Sat 31 Jul 10

sad sad people get a grip!

northernlight62 says...
12:53pm Sat 31 Jul 10

sad sad people get a grip!

northernlight62 says...
12:53pm Sat 31 Jul 10

sad sad people get a grip!

AndYork says...
12:56pm Sat 31 Jul 10

surely headlines should of been; DISCO INFERNO.

northernlight62 says...
1:06pm Sat 31 Jul 10

King Edward wrote:
The less places there are like this the better, would we all not prefer a friendly, clean, crime free city? Binge drinkers are a blight on the NHS, Council and Justice system. Curfew anyone?
erm it isnt the clubs what make binge drinkers and idiots people choose to act like d**ks............

heathcliffe says...
1:17pm Sat 31 Jul 10

pedalling paul wrote:
You can put a bomb under the lot as far as I'm concerned. I'm fed up of trying to cycle along Micklegate in the evening, with drunks and revellers staggering about in the road. I've even had idiots trying to knock me off and chase after me........which of you was it.....
Maybe you should travel by car...!!!

Magoose says...
1:29pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Well I'm just pleased that no-one got injured and everyone got out alright. I'm sure with the high tax on alcohol it more than covers the NHS costs. The York night-life is a major draw for tourists so lets not get petty.

yo30 dan says...
1:41pm Sat 31 Jul 10

scens on this street are unfortunately replicated in every town in the UK, but strangely not really elsewhere in the world. I'm sure with this place closed there'll be several less piles of sick, blood and maybe a fight or altercation ot two less as well. Or else move the probelm over the road....

Maquis says...
1:41pm Sat 31 Jul 10

pedalling paul wrote:
You can put a bomb under the lot as far as I'm concerned. I'm fed up of trying to cycle along Micklegate in the evening, with drunks and revellers staggering about in the road. I've even had idiots trying to knock me off and chase after me........which of you was it.....
Then take a slightly different route. Ride up toft green, or around this cylce lane ring road that you so love.
Maybe you think we should ban everybody from the city when you want to cycle through, just in case they get in your way.
These people, who are the minority of drinkers, not the majority, are generaly confined to just a few streets, and you know where they are, so dont cycle down there!

Maquis says...
1:48pm Sat 31 Jul 10

yo30 dan wrote:
scens on this street are unfortunately replicated in every town in the UK, but strangely not really elsewhere in the world. I'm sure with this place closed there'll be several less piles of sick, blood and maybe a fight or altercation ot two less as well. Or else move the probelm over the road....
You sound like a typical daily mail reader. There are many thousands of people who go out every night in York. Of those, a very small number cause problems, and most of those are turning up in town at about 11pm already tanked up on cheap booze bought from a supermarket, and the biggest flashpoint is when people who have just arived in town are turned away from the pubs and clubs for being too drunk.
If you want to sort out this problem, then look at where over 65% of alcohol is now bought - the supermarkets.
Ask any taxi driver and they will confirm that people are now far drunker on their way into town before even entering a pub than ever before.

rogue84 says...
2:40pm Sat 31 Jul 10

no tears shed, bring back nexus!

Pedro says...
2:56pm Sat 31 Jul 10

I am glad nobody was hurt.

Yorkborneinbse says...
3:14pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Pedalling Paul, King Edward, yo30 dan, so very ill informed, biggoted and uneducated views, none of which are anything to do with BPM.

BPM offers a great experience for those seeking a good night out with like minded people. It is extremelly well managed and employs many. Sell Alcohol ? yes it does.

To blame these bars themselves for the issues in York City Centre on an evening is as far away from the problem as you can get, and I am so glad the above mentioned posters will never ever be in a position to help solve or reduce these issues.

Personal values, responsibility, and respect, are not handed over to the owners of Supermarkets or bars in exchange for Alcohol.
Some people, just some, dont posess any, or have ever seen the benefits of them in action.

That is the problem, and not the providers of establishments selling the stuff to drink at home or in bars.

leninwasright says...
3:17pm Sat 31 Jul 10

yo30 dan wrote:
scens on this street are unfortunately replicated in every town in the UK, but strangely not really elsewhere in the world. I'm sure with this place closed there'll be several less piles of sick, blood and maybe a fight or altercation ot two less as well. Or else move the probelm over the road....
Don't be too certain in that assumption. Binge drinking is a problem in several countries; increasingly so in France. I spoke to a bar owner in a smart town in Italy who was fed up with Saturday night drunks wrecking his patio area. However, your point about irresponsible buying and selling of alcohol is valid. It's too cheap and easily available to young people. At the same time, a pity that part of the city is wrecked and that people will be out of work.

KarenWhite1978 says...
3:47pm Sat 31 Jul 10

AndYork wrote:
surely headlines should of been; DISCO INFERNO.
surely the headline should have been "DISCO INFERNO".

Wayne Carr says...
4:06pm Sat 31 Jul 10

KarenWhite1978 wrote:
AndYork wrote: surely headlines should of been; DISCO INFERNO.
surely the headline should have been "DISCO INFERNO".
That's what he said - very pedantic and boring Karen

magoo9 says...
4:25pm Sat 31 Jul 10

KarenWhite1978 wrote:
AndYork wrote: surely headlines should of been; DISCO INFERNO.
surely the headline should have been "DISCO INFERNO".
Surely an investigation for Keith Lard?

Woody Mellor says...
4:30pm Sat 31 Jul 10

KarenWhite1978 wrote:
AndYork wrote:
surely headlines should of been; DISCO INFERNO.
surely the headline should have been "DISCO INFERNO".
Get a life. No one likes a clever git.

Ktin says...
6:03pm Sat 31 Jul 10

'You sound like a typical Daily Mail reader' - possibly one of the best lines I've ever read! Who knew a 'good ol' fire' would bring out the catty comments about cycling routes and punctuation ha!

Stevie D says...
6:18pm Sat 31 Jul 10

northernlight62 wrote:
erm it isnt the clubs what make binge drinkers and idiots people choose to act like d**ks.

No, the clubs don't make people act like that, but they sure as 'eck give them the opportunity, and encourage them to do so.
.
Do you really think that if York got rid of all these dodgy bars and clubs that the level of drunken disruption and vomit-stained pavements would not drop like a stone? If you don't allow places where behaving like a d**k is seen as acceptable, people won't behave like that anywhere near as much.
.
And York would be a better place for it.

SJyork says...
6:24pm Sat 31 Jul 10

I think you're all missing the point. This fire was not caused by binge drinkers. It was caused by smokers. Cigarettes - as are the majority of fires. A wooden smoking area seems daft. The solution to prevent further risks would be to not allow these venues to have designated 'smoking areas.' I am sure smokers can cope a couple of hours without a cigarette - if they can't then frankly they need help.

cutitout says...
6:27pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Woody Mellor wrote:
KarenWhite1978 wrote:
AndYork wrote: surely headlines should of been; DISCO INFERNO.
surely the headline should have been "DISCO INFERNO".
Get a life. No one likes a clever git.
Better a clever git than an ignorant one.

guitarfriend says...
6:39pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Thank goodness - disgusting place along with all the other nightclubs in the area lowering the tone of York.

Unfortunately though, this will be another excuse to victimise smokers,

Puttingtheworldtorights says...
6:43pm Sat 31 Jul 10

magoo9 wrote:
KarenWhite1978 wrote:
AndYork wrote: surely headlines should of been; DISCO INFERNO.
surely the headline should have been "DISCO INFERNO".
Surely an investigation for Keith Lard?
Oh how I wish it was!

keepitshut says...
7:17pm Sat 31 Jul 10

SJyork wrote:
I think you're all missing the point. This fire was not caused by binge drinkers. It was caused by smokers. Cigarettes - as are the majority of fires. A wooden smoking area seems daft. The solution to prevent further risks would be to not allow these venues to have designated 'smoking areas.' I am sure smokers can cope a couple of hours without a cigarette - if they can't then frankly they need help.
Allegedly!

Eric says...
12:21am Sun 1 Aug 10

yo30 dan wrote:
scens on this street are unfortunately replicated in every town in the UK, but strangely not really elsewhere in the world. I'm sure with this place closed there'll be several less piles of sick, blood and maybe a fight or altercation ot two less as well. Or else move the probelm over the road....
have you ever left the uk? iv seen worse scenes in hong kong, many cities in australia and new zealand, not to mention the americas and europe. however much people enjoying themselves and maybe going to far every now and then upsets you it still brings jobs and money to the city and with taxes etc to the country as a whole.

Expat Bob says...
12:24am Sun 1 Aug 10

guitarfriend wrote:
Thank goodness - disgusting place along with all the other nightclubs in the area lowering the tone of York. Unfortunately though, this will be another excuse to victimise smokers,
Why not Victimise smokers? they inflict their filthy habit on other people. Its about time the World banned tobacco altogether. I know some smokers are very considerate but they are the minority. The other thing is and more important, it would put an end to Smoking related deaths.

Mr Stonier says...
12:37am Sun 1 Aug 10

Some comments on here make laugh, York folk are getting a little bit to middle class I think. I've moved into the area last year from Stoke and belive you me fighting and binge drinking went on there as well it's not a York thing, Stoke thing it's a culture of drinking in england maybe a good or bad thing but it's just the way it is. York is a brilliant place to live and offers a real selection of choice for ALL ages yes people drink, yes peope drink too much but we need to chill out a bit more in this country and remember what having a good time is all about.

Expat Bob says...
12:57am Sun 1 Aug 10

northernlight62 wrote:
sad sad people get a grip!

northernlight62 wrote:
sad sad people get a grip!

northernlight62 wrote:
sad sad people get a grip!

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Are you trying to make a point?

westyorkie says...
4:21am Sun 1 Aug 10

Fire Investigators note: Don't spend too much time, this was an insurance job.

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...
9:41am Sun 1 Aug 10

Expat Bob wrote:
guitarfriend wrote:
Thank goodness - disgusting place along with all the other nightclubs in the area lowering the tone of York. Unfortunately though, this will be another excuse to victimise smokers,
Why not Victimise smokers? they inflict their filthy habit on other people. Its about time the World banned tobacco altogether. I know some smokers are very considerate but they are the minority. The other thing is and more important, it would put an end to Smoking related deaths.
Just the same as banning drugs ended all heroin related deaths.

moleculeman says...
9:51am Sun 1 Aug 10

pedalling paul wrote:
You can put a bomb under the lot as far as I'm concerned. I'm fed up of trying to cycle along Micklegate in the evening, with drunks and revellers staggering about in the road. I've even had idiots trying to knock me off and chase after me........which of you was it.....
No Paul. That wasn't because you're a cyclist. It is because you are a complete weiner. You truncheon.

SensibleSimon says...
11:12am Sun 1 Aug 10

SOCA will soon be knocking on PPs door to detain him indefinitely under anti-terror laws.... and York breathes a sigh of relief!

Clubs probably generate a bit of trouble from drunken idiots, but then the world is full of idiots and those few aren't the worst. At least they're not trying to impose their blinkered one track world view onto the rest of us. The odd pile of puke is less offensive than hundreds of miles of green lanes!

Maquis says...
11:27am Sun 1 Aug 10

Stevie D wrote:
northernlight62 wrote: erm it isnt the clubs what make binge drinkers and idiots people choose to act like d**ks.
No, the clubs don't make people act like that, but they sure as 'eck give them the opportunity, and encourage them to do so. . Do you really think that if York got rid of all these dodgy bars and clubs that the level of drunken disruption and vomit-stained pavements would not drop like a stone? If you don't allow places where behaving like a d**k is seen as acceptable, people won't behave like that anywhere near as much. . And York would be a better place for it.
In the same way that roads dont MAKE people drive like idiots, or crash, but sure as 'eck give them the opportunity, and encourage them to do so.

Do you really think that if the UK got rid of all these roads and motorways that the levels of congestion, pollutipon and car related deaths would NOT drop like a stone? If you dont allow these roads, then people wouldnt drive anywhwere near as much.

I suppose you think the UK would be a better place for this too?

The minority of people who act like d**k's will act like d**k's wherever they are, if not in a club then at home with cheap booze from the offy where they are not being watched by doorstaff.
Just because you dont like going to a particular place, it does not have to be banned. I dont like this place much myself but lots of people do, so thats fine by me.

keepitshut says...
11:40am Sun 1 Aug 10

How about this for a conspiracy tale?
Remember the guy who nearly burnt his house down in Huntington with the chip pan? Well he just happened to be in the club the very same night! Now dont get me wrong but you dont think he was reinacting what had happened to him the other night in front of his mates do you?

lizi92 says...
11:41am Sun 1 Aug 10

Stevie D wrote:
northernlight62 wrote: erm it isnt the clubs what make binge drinkers and idiots people choose to act like d**ks.
No, the clubs don't make people act like that, but they sure as 'eck give them the opportunity, and encourage them to do so. . Do you really think that if York got rid of all these dodgy bars and clubs that the level of drunken disruption and vomit-stained pavements would not drop like a stone? If you don't allow places where behaving like a d**k is seen as acceptable, people won't behave like that anywhere near as much. . And York would be a better place for it.
Yeah but they give them the opportunity to act like dicks in a safe and managed environment where there are plenty of staff and bouncers to manage it. would you rather the clubs closed and there were people drinking on the streets in actual danger? closing the clubs wouldn't solve problems, it would cause more which would be significantly worse.

And i'll assume you've never been into places like BPM or salvos because if you had, you'd realise that it's a reasonably safe environment.

holyroller says...
1:42pm Sun 1 Aug 10

If my kids were out all night in a nightclub, I'd be happier if they were in a club run by the guys who have Salvation and BPM.

It's a well run place and I hope they get it open again quickly.

cliftongirl says...
3:38pm Sun 1 Aug 10

I'm just glad nobody was hurt. I think the fire-service deserve some praise too, brave beyond words really

Guy Fawkes says...
3:53pm Sun 1 Aug 10

How about this for a conspiracy tale?
Remember the guy who nearly burnt his house down in Huntington with the chip pan? Well he just happened to be in the club the very same night! Now dont get me wrong but you dont think he was reinacting what had happened to him the other night in front of his mates do you?


Or a case of Jewish lightning, by any chance? The timing of the fire - just after the place closed - would tend to beg the question...

fear your government says...
8:11pm Sun 1 Aug 10

the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire

BioLogic says...
9:52am Mon 2 Aug 10

There is a reason that the police call that area "Suicide Square"

Princess Fluffy says...
1:31pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Where will all the druggies go now?

JohnnyByrne says...
3:34pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Princess Fluffy wrote:
Where will all the druggies go now?
Errrrrrr back to Tang hall of course! :-)

spiritofyork says...
3:46pm Mon 2 Aug 10

We need to accept that drunken, loutish and occasionally intimidating behvaiour is part of English culture. However they should provide for a mobile hospital and/or drunk tank like they do in Poland, and charge them for the service in the morning. Strain on A&E and police cells sorted. Thank you.

Yorkborneinbse says...
5:51pm Mon 2 Aug 10

BioLogic wrote:
There is a reason that the police call that area "Suicide Square"
And why is that then? I fail to see the Joke or the Irony.

Magoose says...
6:39pm Mon 2 Aug 10

guitarfriend wrote:
Thank goodness - disgusting place along with all the other nightclubs in the area lowering the tone of York. Unfortunately though, this will be another excuse to victimise smokers,
How pathetic. I wonder how many people making these negative comments actually go out on an evening in York. It's a great city and a great atmosphere on the whole. Yes, there are problems from time to time as with anything but I don't see how it is "lowering the tone" when it is only revellers out at this time anyway surely? All other residents and tourists will never even see this as the latest opening venues in York are 4am??
And yes it is an excuse to victimise smokers as they were seemingly the cause?!
I'd suggest that you go and strum your banjo and keep out of things which you have no knowlegde about.

Maquis says...
6:50pm Mon 2 Aug 10

spiritofyork wrote:
We need to accept that drunken, loutish and occasionally intimidating behvaiour is part of English culture. However they should provide for a mobile hospital and/or drunk tank like they do in Poland, and charge them for the service in the morning. Strain on A&E and police cells sorted. Thank you.
yes and perhaps an obesity clinic outside fast food joints, and mobile hospitals outside ice skating rinks, or even an ambulance for those practicing needlecraft as you could **** your finger. All of these are pastimes of choice and a strain on A&E.
Where would you draw the line, or is it only for pastimes which receive press coverage.

sr2222 says...
10:20pm Mon 2 Aug 10

taken for a mug wrote:
When I first read it I hoped it wasn't Ziggys... if that place went up the headlines could be shockingly different.
Whats Ziggys got to do with anything ?

TRU1 says...
1:31pm Tue 3 Aug 10

very funny comment keepitup - keep it up!!

Thrasher says...
3:46pm Tue 3 Aug 10

Hmmmm... nightclub fire... no injuries or casualties... I wonder if there are any financial problems at this place? Hmmmm indeed...

joshe says...
4:02pm Tue 3 Aug 10

Thrasher wrote:
Hmmmm... nightclub fire... no injuries or casualties... I wonder if there are any financial problems at this place? Hmmmm indeed...
If the owners are reading this, I hope they sue for libel

DarrenMiles says...
6:20pm Tue 3 Aug 10

I agree with a lot of comments on here. The sooner we lose these horrendous dens of chav boozing the sooner the city will lose the louts wrecking the streets in the local area. Sick of these louts breaking windows at 3am, shouting their uneducated booze-fuelled rubbish, followed in tow by their paraletic slags aiming to make an appearance on Jeremy Kyle in the not too distant future. Alcohol is the root of all evil.

euro says...
7:16pm Tue 3 Aug 10

hooray ! i say

the place is renowned for serving kids under age , and stupidly cheap drinks like shots for 70p

pour on petrol.............

Keith Lard says...
9:46am Wed 4 Aug 10

Reading some of the comments above I conclude that most of you are no better than these so called chavs you seem to want to exterminate.

It should be pointed out that there is accommodation adjoining the night club, and thankfully none of those people living there were hurt, or the staff who were still in the building at the time.

I wonder how some of you can sleep at night with spiteful drivel that comes out of your mouths. Although I imagine that you just write this rubbish hiding behind the safety of anonymity with nothing else to occupy your sad little lives.

DarrenMiles says...
11:33am Wed 4 Aug 10

Keith Lard wrote:
Reading some of the comments above I conclude that most of you are no better than these so called chavs you seem to want to exterminate.

It should be pointed out that there is accommodation adjoining the night club, and thankfully none of those people living there were hurt, or the staff who were still in the building at the time.

I wonder how some of you can sleep at night with spiteful drivel that comes out of your mouths. Although I imagine that you just write this rubbish hiding behind the safety of anonymity with nothing else to occupy your sad little lives.
What a heap of nonsense. Who on here has said they wanted to hear about people being hurt in this? Do you have selective reading?

Is Keith Lard your real name? Pot, Kettle, Black.

TRU1 says...
12:17pm Wed 4 Aug 10

DarrenMiles wrote:
Keith Lard wrote: Reading some of the comments above I conclude that most of you are no better than these so called chavs you seem to want to exterminate. It should be pointed out that there is accommodation adjoining the night club, and thankfully none of those people living there were hurt, or the staff who were still in the building at the time. I wonder how some of you can sleep at night with spiteful drivel that comes out of your mouths. Although I imagine that you just write this rubbish hiding behind the safety of anonymity with nothing else to occupy your sad little lives.
What a heap of nonsense. Who on here has said they wanted to hear about people being hurt in this? Do you have selective reading? Is Keith Lard your real name? Pot, Kettle, Black.
Well said Darren!!

Keith Lard says...
2:42pm Wed 4 Aug 10

DarrenMiles, York says...
6:20pm Tue 3 Aug 10

I agree with a lot of comments on here. The sooner we lose these horrendous dens of chav boozing the sooner the city will lose the louts wrecking the streets in the local area. Sick of these louts breaking windows at 3am, shouting their uneducated booze-fuelled rubbish, followed in tow by their paraletic slags aiming to make an appearance on Jeremy Kyle in the not too distant future. Alcohol is the root of all evil.

So where would the respectful law abiding majority go then? Answers on the back of a post card please..

DarrenMiles says...
4:40pm Wed 4 Aug 10

Well Mr Lard (clearly not your name by your lack of response), if you have only heard of getting wrecked on alcho-pops, whilst getting deafened by N-Dubz, hoping to pick up slags from Tang Hall and pretending to speak like Ali-G, prior to **** on people's front doors on the way to the Kebab van... as the only social activity available to people, I really do pity you.

You know there are other social activities for "law abiding" people, other than getting paraletic? Clearly you are unware, via your "answers on a postcard" bafflement.

SensibleSimon says...
6:29pm Wed 4 Aug 10

Seeing as this is currently the sites most commented on story, I will put my question here....

Why does the press choose which stories we may comment on? Why censor the discussion on some? I would like to see the discussion on the story about there being no convictions following the travellers site drug raid.

How did the guy with all the heroin get away with it? Presumably the stuff was found on his possession and even had one fingerprint on the jar. If that doesn't do it, then can we assume that to become drug dealers we simply have to keep our stuff in a coffee jar and only touch it with gloves? How did the stuff get there? Are we to assume someone broke in and gave him £10k worth of smack? If so, did he report this offence, or was he just enjoying his coffee?

Very puzzling.

Keith Lard says...
8:59am Thu 5 Aug 10

Mr Miles... do you really believe that all people that go out on a night fall into your very narrow stereotype or do you just watch Jeremy Kyle on repeat?

My answers on a postcard was an opportunity for you to say something constructive instead of banging your drum about Chavs/Ndubz/young people from Tang Hall (and presumably all of the other council estates in the area) etc etc.

I know there are many other activities that people can enjoy that don't involve alcohol. But to suggest that all the young people who socialise in York city centre end up paralytic is very short sighted. It is a very small minority, who sadly ruin it for the rest.

DarrenMiles says...
2:39pm Thu 5 Aug 10

Not all, Mr Lard, but an increasing number. Mr Brother is a policeman, and he says it's near epidemic levels. I doubt that fits with your "very small minority" claim. Take into account the problems created by those who find gaps in the over-stretched policing, such as the assualts in taxi ranks, nevermind the vomit and **** that can be found covering our streets every morning.

I stand by everything I said as I have the facts, not assumptions. Now let's hope the rest of these drug dens (alcohol is a drug) burn down.....with no one inside, of course, and we get these podgy chavs into a gym or two or at least learn some social responsibility instead of treating the city as a giant toilet.

Maquis says...
2:50am Fri 6 Aug 10

Darren, do you really think that this minority who get paralytic dont drink until they get to the club?
Over 65% of alcohol bought these days is from the supermarkets, not pubs and clubs. Just look at the amount of beer cans, which are not usually sold in pubs, strewn about the streets.
Without these places do you honestly expect them to drink less? In reality they would drink more at home because it is cheaper. Those who insist on causing problems would then be doing it in residential areas with no doormen or police in the vicinity to atempt to control them.
Of the thousands of people who go out in York every night, only a few cause problems. It would be unfair to stop these people having their fun just because of a few idiots who would not stop being idiots no matter what you do.


The scene at Club Salvation nightclub in George Hudson Street, York The scene at Club Salvation nightclub in George Hudson Street, York The scene at Club Salvation nightclub in George Hudson Street, York

The scene at Club Salvation nightclub in George Hudson Street, York

The scene at Club Salvation nightclub in George Hudson Street, York

The scene at Club Salvation nightclub in George Hudson Street, York



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