James Alexander does his bit ‘on the bins’ (From York Press)

If the councillor wants to understand how the refuse system works he should just turn up, do it quietly and not seek publicity from it.

Did he spend a full day on the bins? A full 7.5 hours? Because I know quite a few bin lads and I don't know one bin man who does a full day. I have one mate who starts about 6.30am and is sat in Weatherspoons for 11 and that's every day! Job and knock!

Fair play to James though - he seems to be doing a lot of good for the people of Holgate - I wish David Horton and Tracey Simpson-laing were doing the same for the people of Acomb (However they don't even live there so what do you expect)

The Council decided on 20th July to offer residents in these terraced areas a choice of collection arrangements (one of the options being the use of wheeled bins with collection from a central point at the end of terraces). Leaflets were delivered in rhe Beaconsfield Street area last week and residents are now making up their own minds about what they would prefer.
This is just JA realising he's missed the boat and trying to get a bit of personal publicity.

Is James Alexander qualified enough to do the bins......? Oh Yes, Labour and waste go quite well together!!

Beagleboy wrote:
Did he spend a full day on the bins? A full 7.5 hours? Because I know quite a few bin lads and I don't know one bin man who does a full day. I have one mate who starts about 6.30am and is sat in Weatherspoons for 11 and that's every day! Job and knock! Fair play to James though - he seems to be doing a lot of good for the people of Holgate - I wish David Horton and Tracey Simpson-laing were doing the same for the people of Acomb (However they don't even live there so what do you expect)

Bin men have rounds they have to do when completed they can go, which is my you often see bin men racing around to get the job done as quick as possible so they can finish, if they were forced to do set hours they would work at a more normal rate and some bins might not get done at the end of the round or do on overtime. Therefore the current system of you can go when your round is completed is cheaper for the tax payer and more efficient.

BegaleBoy
If you have a complaint about your bins then please let me know. No residents have complained about their bins in Acomb recently as the system has not been changed. We are currently undertaking our Street Surgerys which visit every street in the Ward, which we have being doing for 8 years, so if you want to talk to us put the leaflet we deliver in your window or contact us via the usual means, or just stop me when I'm on the bike cycling around the ward.

Finally its the Ward Committee tonight at Holy Redemmer Church Hall where we have a surgery before the meeting so come and let us know your problems.

LibDem wrote:
The Council decided on 20th July to offer residents in these terraced areas a choice of collection arrangements (one of the options being the use of wheeled bins with collection from a central point at the end of terraces). Leaflets were delivered in rhe Beaconsfield Street area last week and residents are now making up their own minds about what they would prefer. This is just JA realising he's missed the boat and trying to get a bit of personal publicity.

don't know about trying for a bit of publicity, but wonder if a disclaimer was signed in the event of any personal injury incurred whilst performing this duty.
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I wonder if James Alexander found a load of polling cards from the York Outer constituency after he betrayed the Labour vote by running off like a weasel and giving up the day before the election?

I hope Press readers see through this shallow attempt as self-publicity. Mind you, it's probably the first day of real work he's done in his life.

He'd have his work cut out if he had to clear up Liberal Democrats Failed Plans File

PKH wrote:

Beagleboy wrote: Did he spend a full day on the bins? A full 7.5 hours? Because I know quite a few bin lads and I don't know one bin man who does a full day. I have one mate who starts about 6.30am and is sat in Weatherspoons for 11 and that's every day! Job and knock! Fair play to James though - he seems to be doing a lot of good for the people of Holgate - I wish David Horton and Tracey Simpson-laing were doing the same for the people of Acomb (However they don't even live there so what do you expect)

Bin men have rounds they have to do when completed they can go, which is my you often see bin men racing around to get the job done as quick as possible so they can finish, if they were forced to do set hours they would work at a more normal rate and some bins might not get done at the end of the round or do on overtime. Therefore the current system of you can go when your round is completed is cheaper for the tax payer and more efficient.

It won't be cheaper for the taxpayer if they are rushing around and fall into a moving vehicle will it?

I'm afraid I disagree with what you are saying which is basically that binmen would slow down on purpose fi they had to put a full days work in - in that case the council supervisior should calculate how long each round should take and anybody who can't complete it in the required time should be laid off!

The bootom line is that a vast majority of these bin lads are still getting paid well into the afternoon by the council when infact they are sat in a boozer or on the sofa!

If the residents had a choice and now don't like it, then they only have themselves to blame. After all it's only rubbish. Does it really matter if your collection arrangements have changed? As for the binmen, if they get a perk from their job and finish early, good on 'em. We're only jealous!!!

Once you get past all the local nonsense and name calling in this article, it just occured to me that we need to make savings in public services!! When the bin men have finished there round by 11am why dont they they get sent back out to work some more! I bet the wages clock doesnt stop at 11am does it?
If I work hard all day long my boss doesnt let me go early I just get given more work.
If there are any jobs going at YCC can I have one I could do half a day then get another job in the afternoons.

kennydebs wrote:
Once you get past all the local nonsense and name calling in this article, it just occured to me that we need to make savings in public services!! When the bin men have finished there round by 11am why dont they they get sent back out to work some more! I bet the wages clock doesnt stop at 11am does it?
If I work hard all day long my boss doesnt let me go early I just get given more work.
If there are any jobs going at YCC can I have one I could do half a day then get another job in the afternoons.

Think you summed up the point beyond name calling of officials. Means the binmen have one hell of an union if they could negotiate that sort of deal where they finish early. Yes they do start early and need some sort of perk but the postmen are out early too and they do a full shift don't they?

Cllr Tracey Simpson-Laing wrote:
BegaleBoy
If you have a complaint about your bins then please let me know. No residents have complained about their bins in Acomb recently as the system has not been changed. We are currently undertaking our Street Surgerys which visit every street in the Ward, which we have being doing for 8 years, so if you want to talk to us put the leaflet we deliver in your window or contact us via the usual means, or just stop me when I'm on the bike cycling around the ward.

Finally its the Ward Committee tonight at Holy Redemmer Church Hall where we have a surgery before the meeting so come and let us know your problems.

Let us know if BB turns up and talks to you, eh? Would make a change from some of the rants around here, blowing hot air, but given the chance to have something done, they sort of blow away on the breeze....

i must admit i do agree with beagleboy regarding the working hrs of the bin men. i also know a couple of lads on the bins and the phrase 'job and knock ' is used by them all the time, basically they are usually finished by 11 or 11 30 and they get paid for a full day.Sounds like a hard days work for the councillor to me

Beagleboy wrote:

PKH wrote:

Beagleboy wrote: Did he spend a full day on the bins? A full 7.5 hours? Because I know quite a few bin lads and I don't know one bin man who does a full day. I have one mate who starts about 6.30am and is sat in Weatherspoons for 11 and that's every day! Job and knock! Fair play to James though - he seems to be doing a lot of good for the people of Holgate - I wish David Horton and Tracey Simpson-laing were doing the same for the people of Acomb (However they don't even live there so what do you expect)

Bin men have rounds they have to do when completed they can go, which is my you often see bin men racing around to get the job done as quick as possible so they can finish, if they were forced to do set hours they would work at a more normal rate and some bins might not get done at the end of the round or do on overtime. Therefore the current system of you can go when your round is completed is cheaper for the tax payer and more efficient.

It won't be cheaper for the taxpayer if they are rushing around and fall into a moving vehicle will it? I'm afraid I disagree with what you are saying which is basically that binmen would slow down on purpose fi they had to put a full days work in - in that case the council supervisior should calculate how long each round should take and anybody who can't complete it in the required time should be laid off! The bootom line is that a vast majority of these bin lads are still getting paid well into the afternoon by the council when infact they are sat in a boozer or on the sofa!

As I undersand it the rounds were calculated at a full days work at normal work rate, therefore they are doing a normal full days work, so what is the problem if they work faster (at a rate that would be impossible if they had to work longer) and complete the job earlier.

Wish I'd known, I'd have paid a druggie to pop out of the bin just as it reached the truck and scare the high vis off him! That would be a UTube hit!

happy shopper wrote:
i must admit i do agree with beagleboy regarding the working hrs of the bin men. i also know a couple of lads on the bins and the phrase 'job and knock ' is used by them all the time, basically they are usually finished by 11 or 11 30 and they get paid for a full day.Sounds like a hard days work for the councillor to me

Love to hear from the council on this one.....

Just to say Begale Boy has not contacted me and did not attend the Ward Committee.