MEP launches attack on EU ‘corpse dissolving’ proposal (From York Press)
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MEP Godfrey Bloom launches attack on EU ‘corpse dissolving’ proposal
9:30am Thursday 22nd July 2010 in News
PROPOSALS which would allow undertakers to dissolve dead human bodies and flush them into the sewage system have been attacked by MEP Godfrey Bloom.
Mr Bloom, the UKIP member for Yorkshire and the Humberside, said the EU is currently investigating the proposal, which has come from the Flemish Association of Undertakers as a way of cutting down on the amount of land taken up by burials.
The plans would see people’s deceased loved ones being placed in containers containing salts and water. These containers would then be pressurised and some time later the liquid and mineral ash left over could be flushed into sewage systems or be put into urns and given to loved ones.
Mr Bloom, who lives near Selby, said:“We are talking about dissolving the dead and flushing them into the sewage system. I am appalled that the European Commission is even looking into this shameful and disrespectful suggestion.
“I find the whole concept macabre and have no doubt that the straight talking people of Yorkshire will think the same.
“It’s the European Parliament that wants dissolving and flushing down the sewers.”
Comments(43)
gerry merryweather
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9:51am Thu 22 Jul 10
sheddie
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10:01am Thu 22 Jul 10
Did you make any effort to investigate whether there is any truth behind this before regurgitating it as a story?
Even if there is, it's a shoddy, desperate smear on the EU for what appears in fact to be a proposal from the Flemish Association of Undertakers. The EU can't control what is proposed to it!
The headline clearly suggests the proposal comes from the EU itself. False. Will you correct it or do you prefer to let this blatantly political spin stand? Do you like being used as a propaganda mouthpiece by UKIP?
A quick Google found only a single story from the Daily Mail to back this bit of silly posturing up. 'Nuff said.
Council Care Worker
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10:02am Thu 22 Jul 10
hifive
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10:18am Thu 22 Jul 10
Council Care Worker wrote:Same here! I'll be dead so I won't know either way!
As far as I am concerned, being non-religious, when I pass away I am nothing more than waste matter and I am happy to be flushed away!!
Silver
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10:23am Thu 22 Jul 10
hifive wrote:Nah go for cremation, then get released into the wind when my attractive female neighbour is doing her washing....it'll take weeks for her to get me out of her knickers hehe
Council Care Worker wrote: As far as I am concerned, being non-religious, when I pass away I am nothing more than waste matter and I am happy to be flushed away!!Same here! I'll be dead so I won't know either way!
Council Care Worker
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10:27am Thu 22 Jul 10
The Fin
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11:07am Thu 22 Jul 10
It's not a plan to cut down on land used for burials, it's a greener alternative to cremation. It's a process that would "use less energy than a crematorium - It would also not emit any harmful carbon dioxide into the atmosphere" (Sky News).
After the process all that is left is a liquid and ash-like substance which can then be placed in an urn or scattered at the 'loved-ones' desired spot. Much like cremated ashes.
The EU is only judging whether the preposal is safe. It is not interefering with one country's (and it is only Belgium that is looking to introduce this) right to make it's own decision. Something that I thought the madcap UKIP party would have been pleased about.
Come on York Press, do some investigating, don't just quote the comments fed to you by politicians. You're supposed to help us be informed, not hinder us.
Pedro
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11:27am Thu 22 Jul 10
Jassy
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11:33am Thu 22 Jul 10
spiritofyork
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11:37am Thu 22 Jul 10
evelyn_trent
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11:56am Thu 22 Jul 10
sheddie
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12:20pm Thu 22 Jul 10
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The EU Representative to the UK pointed out:
"Whatever Belgian undertakers decide regarding funeral arrangements is a matter for the Belgian authorities. Just like it’s a matter for the UK authorities in this country."
"The EU has no competence in this matter and to suggest otherwise is wide of the mark."
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Well, I suppose running this rubbish gives us a pretty good idea what to think of UKIP.
BL2
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12:31pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Silver
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12:35pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Zetkin
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12:38pm Thu 22 Jul 10
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Thanks are due to Mr Bloom and his buddies at Press for bringing it to my attention.
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Don't you think, though,that there are many things the EU actually DOES do that you could criticise instead? Such as not checking properly what MEPs claim in expenses?
invisibleman
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12:43pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Taken for a Mug
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12:47pm Thu 22 Jul 10
The Fin
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12:47pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Think it was the ones pointing out the differences between the video and the story. They've changed the online story, removing mothers 'quotes' and paraphrasing so the storys match...Will be interested to see what the printed one says.
Now this story has been shown to be incorrect how long before comments closed/story changed?
Silver
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12:59pm Thu 22 Jul 10
The Fin wrote:Cheers for that....**** I was hoping for it to be a funnier reason then that ah well there's always another story of expectant sympathy for moronic behaviour anyway
@silver Think it was the ones pointing out the differences between the video and the story. They've changed the online story, removing mothers 'quotes' and paraphrasing so the storys match...Will be interested to see what the printed one says. Now this story has been shown to be incorrect how long before comments closed/story changed?
Taken for a Mug
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1:20pm Thu 22 Jul 10
hifive
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1:29pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Taken for a Mug wrote:Complete with can of stella! Don't know who's comment knocked it off - this gambling lark isn't going so well...
I see the tent woman has made it onto Look North tonight.....
karen29
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1:36pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Ex-Rowntree
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1:42pm Thu 22 Jul 10
p.s. flush me - who cares!
Guy Fawkes
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2:11pm Thu 22 Jul 10
I agree with two points above. No. 1 - and I write as an instinctive UKIP supporter who usually votes for them in Euro elections - that this is shameless politicking on Bloom's part. The EU is imposing enough bad laws and wasteful spending on us as it is. He really doesn't need to go for an emotional, below-the-belt issue like this one to bash the EU with. They've given themselves enough real rope, and he should concentrate on hanging them with that, even if this does mean concentrating on more boring issues that are more difficult to make headlines out of. No. 2 - I, too, really don't like the idea of cremation. At a time when energy security is a major issue and we're wondering how we'll be able to keep the lights on in a few years' time, wasting several dozen kilowatt hours per body when there are far more efficient alternatives is to me stupid and offensive. I like the idea of 'green' woodland burial myself: at least some of the energy stored in my body will then be recycled back into the ecosystem as it decomposes.
AngryandFrustrated
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2:16pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Silver wrote:Didn't have chance to enter the sweep on this young lad as comments were removed far too quickly, unlike "tent-gate" yesterday when it took them 'till almost 6pm to take them down. Funnily enough, it was only after the tented woman's supporters came on and began abusing the rest of us that the thread was removed completely.
The Fin wrote: @silver Think it was the ones pointing out the differences between the video and the story. They've changed the online story, removing mothers 'quotes' and paraphrasing so the storys match...Will be interested to see what the printed one says. Now this story has been shown to be incorrect how long before comments closed/story changed?Cheers for that....**** I was hoping for it to be a funnier reason then that ah well there's always another story of expectant sympathy for moronic behaviour anyway
As for being dissolved - not for me! Most people think I'll burn in hell anyway so cremation is the way to go!!!
metsa
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2:21pm Thu 22 Jul 10
1speedisalluneed
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2:34pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Taken for a Mug wrote:I see the comments stream for the tent story has gone, was enjoying that one :-)
I see the tent woman has made it onto Look North tonight.....
TooRelaxed
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3:05pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Christmas is cancelled and we're all forced to celebrate ramadan.
We all have to take off our crosses, but you'd be arrested if you asked someone to remove their turban.
Finally, muslims force swimming pools to be plunged into darkness.
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That tabloidwatch blog shows investigative effort worth a thousand of YorkPress.
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It's incredible in this modern culture of blame and litigation that media organisations can get away with such misleading half-truths and the Press and everyone else should be ashamed of themselves.
Even more embarrassed should be Loony Bloom!
TooRelaxed
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3:09pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Silver
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3:31pm Thu 22 Jul 10
TooRelaxed wrote:I prefer the term in need of medication
PS: ...who isn't loony at all, just pretends to be so he can get away with being offensive and unpleasant.
meme
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4:15pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Much cheaper than jail
Frodo Baggins
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5:14pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Council Care Worker wrote:Not while I'm alive!
I would go for cremation but have you paid for one lately!!
idlehousewife
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5:32pm Thu 22 Jul 10
tonezzzznoddedoff
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6:22pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Silver
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6:49pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Cold_as_Christmas
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7:39pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Beware!
Last year 100% of our unleaded petrol was contaminated with bio ethanol and this is causing damage, especially to older vehicles.
So, the EU may force this measure of how human remains are disposed of on the ordinary public.
How might they do this? Make cemetery burials subject to a mega land fill tax while cremations being subject to mega Global Warming (If warming ever comes) tax.
You make jokes of Godfrey Bloom but he is right and battling the EU from the inside. We are powerless to challenge their directives and decisions!
Silver
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8:01pm Thu 22 Jul 10
Cold_as_Christmas wrote:Or we use dissolved human bodies as a form of fuel. Hence solving the whole energy crisis and driving your car becomes a lot cheaper?
You may find you have no choice:
Beware!
Last year 100% of our unleaded petrol was contaminated with bio ethanol and this is causing damage, especially to older vehicles.
So, the EU may force this measure of how human remains are disposed of on the ordinary public.
How might they do this? Make cemetery burials subject to a mega land fill tax while cremations being subject to mega Global Warming (If warming ever comes) tax.
You make jokes of Godfrey Bloom but he is right and battling the EU from the inside. We are powerless to challenge their directives and decisions!
Seriously you honestly believe all that? No one is that harsh to tax to that level of limitation and think they'll have a job the day after.
humpty numpty
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9:48pm Thu 22 Jul 10
piaggio
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10:19pm Thu 22 Jul 10
flemish green ?? they from belgium then?? wierd place. made up country innit??
TooRelaxed
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10:54pm Thu 22 Jul 10
humpty numpty
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11:20pm Thu 22 Jul 10
piaggio wrote:made up of wallonia and vlemench (walloons and flemings to you) innit!!
Soylent Green!! ah yes brill film .make.s you wonder
flemish green ?? they from belgium then?? wierd place. made up country innit??
Lizzie Browning
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9:12pm Sat 24 Jul 10
..nah, not sure there is a use for him, even in death! :-)
Garrowby Turnoff says...
9:33am Thu 22 Jul 10