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Plans revealed for hotel located in St Maurice’s Road next to York's Bar Walls

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DETAILS of a major new hotel development for the centre of York which could bring 50 new jobs to the city have been revealed.

If approved, the scheme would see the construction of a three-storey, 26-bed hotel and restaurant in St Maurice’s Road, in the shadow of the historic bar walls.

While the cost of the project is unclear, the scale of the development has been revealed in a number of architectural sketches and plans.

The hotel would be situated on land which is currently a car park, directly in front of the walls, close to the junction of St Maurice’s Road and Monkgate.

Greg Morgan, designer of the building and director of York-based MoMo Architecture, said: “We would hope that what is being offered is a building that will add to York’s architectural heritage. We were inspired by a hotel in Toledo in Spain where people go for the surroundings, not the hotel itself.

“It’s a modern design but it has respect for its surroundings in its context.

Mr Morgan said the design of the hotel meant people walking along the bar Walls would be able to see themselves reflected in its windows.

“They will be able to see the only thing they can’t see when they are on the walls – that is the walls themselves,” he said. Mr Morgan admitted that the design of the building, and its proximity to the walls, would be likely to draw comment from some.

Nearby Jewbury resident, Robert Palmer, wrote to City of York Council to say the proposed building was too large for the site and would obscure views.

He said: “It is a boring design of little architectural merit which is out of keeping with the buildings in the immediate vicinity, particularly those that are listed.”

He also raised questions over traffic congestion. The application is expected to come before City of York Council’s Planning Committee for a decision in October.

Comments(17)

Punkster says...
9:21am Fri 16 Jul 10

Nearby Jewbury resident, Robert Palmer, wrote to City of York Council to say the proposed building was too large for the site and would obscure views.

He said: “It is a boring design of little architectural merit which is out of keeping with the buildings in the immediate vicinity, particularly those that are listed.”

Completely agree, York will suffer an architectural death by a thousand cuts if we are not careful.

sheps lad says...
9:26am Fri 16 Jul 10

You're having a laugh aren't you Mr Morgan?

meme says...
9:27am Fri 16 Jul 10

and pigs might fly!!
There is no way CoYC will allow this but if they do they need to be shot

peepod says...
9:47am Fri 16 Jul 10

London and many other places are places of historical importance, they have modern buildings that are shaping the 21st century which help sustain the economy and future growth. Many people object to ‘progress’ in York. A mix of different architecture types is what make this country great, a vast historic timeline of great British engineering and design.

AngryandFrustrated says...
9:50am Fri 16 Jul 10

I would be astounded if this got the go ahead - ultimately, a lot will depend on English Heritage who need to sanction the development due to the ancient monument which is the Bar Walls. Objections from English Heritage are what scuppered the potential relocation of the Arclight Centre to the Nunnery Lane area because of its proposed proximity to the Walls.

Personally, I'd rather see York and its skyline, not my reflection in the hotel's windows - what is the man thinking when he says that?!!

pedalling paul says...
10:31am Fri 16 Jul 10

Nothing to stop a developer submitting a Planning Application, which would then have to go through the full process. However a non-returnable admin fee must always be paid by the developer.
If a proposal is likely to be controversial, then a prospective applicant can seek preliminary advice from Planning Officers, as to whether Consent is likely to be forthcoming. If the developer decides to risk a formal application, having been advised that it is unlikely to be approved, he
can still do so. It must then go through the full process of formal consideration.

Unctuous says...
11:06am Fri 16 Jul 10

meme wrote:
and pigs might fly!! There is no way CoYC will allow this but if they do they need to be shot
Don't be too sure Meme.
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Remember CoYC planning officers okay-ed the utterly monstrous Wetherspoons grain silo opposite Fishergate Postern.

Hieronymous says...
11:08am Fri 16 Jul 10

When I walk on the bar walls I like to see the distant horizons and imagine the approach of a besieging army. I should think most visitors do as well. We can look in a mirror at home! Hence my only beef with the new extensions at St John's (a building which I DO like in itself) - you can no longer see Sutton Bank from Robin Hood Tower.

In any case - is it really worth it for a mere 26 beds? (Although obviously a bigger one would block a bigger view!)

Oh - and London's different: the damage has already been done. Last time I was there though, the cloud-base was so low that nothing was visible higher than the dome of St Paul's. It was like stepping into a Hogarth etching: brilliant!

mystic_genius says...
12:11pm Fri 16 Jul 10

meme wrote:
and pigs might fly!! There is no way CoYC will allow this but if they do they need to be shot
erm...don't CYC need to be shot regardless of the outcome of this one (soon-to-be) fiasco?

Barfield24 says...
12:18pm Fri 16 Jul 10

six to four on........this will be accepted!.....so long as the developer allows a cycle lane to be placed outside and redevelops the monkgate junction......just so the old men with bald heads and pony tails (what's all that about???) can enjoy snarling traffic up further!........do we really need a new hotel, the white swan on piccadilly is still boarded up!

evelyn_trent says...
12:54pm Fri 16 Jul 10

Hmm, a bit plain - and something that'll obstruct road-users' view of the walls and the Minster. Why not demolish and rebuild the haphazard and disjointed Monk Bar Best Western opposite instead?

Lizzie Browning says...
4:53pm Fri 16 Jul 10

The space in front of the walls runs the length of St Maurices/Jewbury and provides a breathing space for that area. Squeezing a hotel in there breaks up the grass/wall line and makes the Monkgate end somewhat cramped.
No - they can bug off with their nasty little hotel!

the butler says...
7:02pm Fri 16 Jul 10

Looking at the building facade it has the appearance of a recent Hungate design, Is this the latest architectural school of design?
Most buildings close to the walls have a brick facade, and none to my knowledge rise above the parapets?

King Edward says...
9:12pm Fri 16 Jul 10

Why waste print, it'll never happen, none of these schemes ever see the light of day in York. Inward looking, backward thinking, might as well be the Deep South.

PC29 says...
10:05pm Fri 16 Jul 10

As with others, I don't wish to see myself reflected in windows a few feet away from the bar wall belonging to a building which seems from the sketch to be taller than the walls.
The building will also cause damage to the ditch and cause any remains to decay since even English Heritage are beginning to realise that preservation in situ based on piling doesn't work (even if they are not prepared to admit it publically).
It deserves short shrift but so did lots of other schemes that have been built.
The citizens of York need to worry and to mobilise to stop such crass applications.

Terry3 says...
4:28am Sat 17 Jul 10

Although I left York in 1968, I still think of it as "Home" and regularly spend time on Google street view marveling at how little the city has changed, and where it has, it is usually, but not always, with good taste. I would be sad to see any development that would mar a view which has been the same since the 1500's. So I say to YCC please.. do not pass this monstrosity.

Roy Wallington says...
7:14pm Sat 17 Jul 10

An excellent replacement for the existing run-down buildings which are an eyesore from both the walls and the road.
York benefits from a variety of building sytles and this will be an attribute, particularly in this area.
I think its great that you will be able to see the walls reflected in the hotel windows. And I bet you will be able to see the little noticed ice-house too.
Well done Greg. I hope that your application is successful.

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