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Osbaldwick student home plan rejected


RESIDENTS in a York community are celebrating after controversial plans to create more student housing near their homes were blocked.

Proposals which went before City of York Council this week aimed to turn a three-bedroom property in Osbaldwick into a five-bedroom house, sparking fury among people living nearby who claimed it would create a “tipping point”.

But the authority’s east area planning sub-committee voted unanimously to reject the plans to make the building a house in multiple occupation (HMO), using national legislation which allows councils to throw out such applications despite officers having recommended the scheme for approval.

Osbaldwick Parish Council heavily criticised the plans for the house in Thirkleby Way, saying it would add to noise and disturbance levels, lead to local amenities deteriorating and force residents to sell up to buy-to-let landlords, create parking problems and harm the Green Belt.

“We know York has a deficit of family homes and we have to look at the cumulative impact of houses in multiple occupation,” committee member Coun Dave Taylor said at this week’s Guildhall meeting which decided the application which was attended by many of the objectors.

“I believe the University of York has been a poor neighbour in failing to provide sufficient student accommodation on campus and that is what has been causing these problems.”

And opposing the scheme, Coun Brian Watson, said: “HMOs have an impact on residential streets once they go over a certain ratio, and I think we should review that ratio.”

Council officers had claimed the likelihood of the new coalition Government amending the laws allowing local authorities to block HMO applications could not be ignored and that approving the plans would not lead to noise levels rising.

Meanwhile, the same meeting heard a proposed scheme to convert a two-bedroom house in Barstow Avenue, in the Hull Road area, into a five-bedroom HMO has been withdrawn after also drawing a string of objections from local residents

Comments(11)

sciencefan says...
10:59am Fri 9 Jul 10

So if the Council erred in law in refusing permission, the decision will get appealed, reversed at appeal and the council will have to pay costs, all because of some NIMBY's with claims they had no solid proof of.

Long live democracy eh!

gerry merryweather says...
11:44am Fri 9 Jul 10

'force residents to sell up to buy-to-let landlords'

Who would force them to sell to landlords?

They could put thier money (as opposed to using the parish council funds as a whingers fund) where there mouths are and only sell their houses for 'family housing'.

If this means accepting less than a landlord would be willing to pay, then so be it. After all it would be grossly hypocritcal for any of these people to sell to a landlord.

DILLIGAF says...
12:19pm Fri 9 Jul 10

The student economy keeps some areas of York going. York has no heavy industry to speak of as the chocolate factories, the glassworks, the sugar factory and the carriageworks have all gone. The shops in the Hull Road, Badger Hill and Osbaldwick areas all take money from students. If the students went, the small shops would close, pubs, takeaways, taxi companies, supermarkets, house maintainance firms, estate agencies, etc would suffer. Oh, and house prices would drop. Would you rather have students studying, or a load of derelict looking houses full of asylum seekers,benefits claimants, and druggies? The student economy is a major source of Yorks income. Stop whining.

Unctuous says...
1:08pm Fri 9 Jul 10

Great news, well done the residents.
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Can York have some planning officers that arn't idiots please?

DILLIGAF says...
1:41pm Fri 9 Jul 10

If you read the article, the planning officers recommended approval. It was th councillors who rejected it.

Alucard says...
6:40pm Fri 9 Jul 10

Unctuous wrote:
Great news, well done the residents. . Can York have some planning officers that arn't idiots please?
They do, I have met her !

Unctuous says...
6:40pm Fri 9 Jul 10

DILLIGAF wrote:
If you read the article, the planning officers recommended approval. It was th councillors who rejected it.
**** me - why do the planning stories always attract the mentally unfortunate?
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I did read the article Brain of Britain - you might have noticed I commended the residents and condemned the planners?
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Getting a picture yet of my view on the planning officer's decision to approve this development? Forgive me if I don't wait for the light to maybe (or maybe not) turn on...

DILLIGAF says...
7:58pm Fri 9 Jul 10

Unctuous wrote:
DILLIGAF wrote: If you read the article, the planning officers recommended approval. It was th councillors who rejected it.
**** me - why do the planning stories always attract the mentally unfortunate? . I did read the article Brain of Britain - you might have noticed I commended the residents and condemned the planners? . Getting a picture yet of my view on the planning officer's decision to approve this development? Forgive me if I don't wait for the light to maybe (or maybe not) turn on...
A genuine mis-read, no need to be so rude. I am no mentally unfortunate. Sorry I am not as perfect as you.

I still think the councillors bottled it. The legislation applies to all HMO's not just student houses. Would the NIMBY's be objecting if the house was going to be occupied by working folks?

Unctuous says...
10:08pm Fri 9 Jul 10

Sorry DILLIGAF, I was rude. I've made my share misreads myself. I was just irked by the accusation "If you'd read the article... etc, etc" but agree I should I have been more temperate so genuine apology for that.
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But what continues to make my blood boil is the frankly brainless & utterly predictable accusation of Nimbyism these stories prompt – sorry but you’re wrong. What are these residents supposed to do? Keep their traps shut for the sake of the university’s expansion and the benefit of the wider economy? What about the fact they worked all their lives to pay their mortgages and improve their homes and environment? Are they so wrong to not want to see another Heslington Rd where they live? Is it now sedition to expect the university to do more to house students or landlords to actually give a toss about the effect of their properties in residential areas?
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An appeal against the officer’s decision is their democratic right and their only opportunity to have a meaningful say in the future of their immediate environment and quality of life. I think anyone who can’t be bothered to take advantage of this is an idiot and I applaud them, and the local councillors

Unctuous says...
10:26pm Fri 9 Jul 10

sciencefan wrote:
So if the Council erred in law in refusing permission, the decision will get appealed, reversed at appeal and the council will have to pay costs, all because of some NIMBY's with claims they had no solid proof of. Long live democracy eh!
It is democracy actually and if you don’t like it then... etc, etc…
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FYI – whenever I hear anyone use the (bonkers Daily Mail) term NIMBY, I always think they must be one of 2 kinds of people:
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Either they live nowhere near the area in question yet somehow have nothing better to do than feel (bizarrely) affronted by those who do and have the sheer cheek to mention their quality of life could be affected, or;
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They’re victims of some planning injustice themselves and have (rather bitterly) decided that if they’re condemned to live in a less than ideal environment then everyone else should suffer alike.
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Sorry but you’re wrong. You’re entitled to your opinion of course but residents & councillors decided to fight back and they won. Please don’t descend into knocking democracy just because you didn’t get the decision you wanted.
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PS. I don’t live anywhere near this area.
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PPS. Am very sorry I was so awful to you the other day. “NIMBY” is a red rag to me but that’s no excuse.

DILLIGAF says...
10:29pm Fri 9 Jul 10

Thanks for the apology.

I do think if it was not for tourists, students, and the races, York would die.


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