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Taxi drivers launch Blossom Street junction protest


TAXI drivers in York have launched a petition against council plans to reduce the number of traffic lanes in Blossom Street.

Members of York Private Hire Association described the plan to convert a traffic lane into a cycle path in Blossom Street as “unthinkable” and “devastating”, at a meeting in The Winning Post pub in Bishopthorpe Road yesterday.

Now the association committee will ask members to place the petitions in their cars where they can be signed by passengers.

Association chairman Barry Hamer said that while members were not against cycle lanes, the three suggestions put forward for Blossom Street by the council were going to do “no good whatsoever”.

A fellow driver said: “We got a taste of what it might be like a few months ago when they repaired a water main on the corner and we had traffic backing up to the station and right up Holgate Road – and that was just on an evening.” Another driver said: “To reduce it down to two lanes would just be devastating.”

City of York Council is currently carrying out a public consultation, asking residents to give their views on three proposals for Blossom Street. Two of these would see the widening of the footpath into the road to provide a lane for cyclists.

A similar scheme which was introduced at Clifton Green has been the subject of criticism from motorists who say it has led to long queues of cars at the traffic lights.

Their demands came as the city’s transport boss revealed most responses to a public consultation on the proposals were against cutting lanes.

Coun Steve Galloway, the council’s executive member for city strategy, said there was little need for the association’s petition.

He said: “The emerging preference is not to reduce the number of traffic lanes on Blossom Street, but there’s quite a lot of support for the cycle and pedestrian link from Lowther Terrace to the station car park.”

The Blossom Street plans are part of the council’s commitment to improve citywide facilities for cyclists after receiving funding from the Government.


City junction lights to stay

REMOVING the traffic lights at a busy York junction has been ruled out despite the easing of rush hour traffic queues while they were temporarily out of action.

The lights at the junction of Blossom Street and Micklegate stopped working yesterday between 7.30am and 9am, due to an electrical fault.

The glitch left drivers having to negotiate the busy four-way junction themselves, but there was a reduction in queuing traffic as far away Acomb Road – cutting journey times by up to half an hour.

However, City of York Council’s member for City Strategy, Steve Galloway, said: “We are not considering removing the lights at the moment. They are there for safety reasons as much as anything else and we would not consider removing them without an in-depth, audited safety report.”

Comments(27)

Taken for a Mug says...
10:06am Thu 18 Mar 10

I would accept a lower enforced speed limit in the city centre if they restricted the use of traffic lights at peak times..along with removing all bus lanes/FTR's, cycle lanes from roads, speed humps, chicanes and mini roundabouts.

buspass says...
11:06am Thu 18 Mar 10

Another Clifton Green about to happen again , dont they ever learn , or do they want to clog up the city more . A good case for charging then .

B.Dole says...
12:03pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Another disaster simply waiting to happen. Guess which CYCC chaps will be whistling in the other direction when it all goes wrong?

How about they mend Clifton Green before they meddle with another established junction.

Mullarkian says...
12:17pm Thu 18 Mar 10

They should take out the traffic lights at the junction. Whenever Clifton Green lights have been out the traffic flows a lot better, road users take more care because thety have to slow to check for traffic and there is no dashhing through the lights as they change.

NTS says...
12:48pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Surely the 3 lanes on Blossom Street are reduced to 2 now by a FTR/P&R bendy taking out the middle lane toget a swing into Queen Street, so surely there will not be much change?
I am also glas to see someone admit that the problem at Clifton Green is not the cycle lane but the traffic lights!

Ghost of Oscar Deutsch says...
1:19pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Coming to a cinema near you this summer.

CLIFTON GREEN 2 -
THE NIGHTMARE RETURNS.

A YCC production...from an idea for a traffic plan written on the back of a fag packet.

Directed by Quentin Tarantino

Starring Steven Segal as Steve Galloway
Jack Black as Andy 'Fats' Waller and Meryl Streep as Pedalling Paul.

Bound to be a box office smash...

yawn.. says...
1:46pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Ghost of Oscar Deutsch wrote:
Coming to a cinema near you this summer. CLIFTON GREEN 2 - THE NIGHTMARE RETURNS. A YCC production...from an idea for a traffic plan written on the back of a fag packet. Directed by Quentin Tarantino Starring Steven Segal as Steve Galloway Jack Black as Andy 'Fats' Waller and Meryl Streep as Pedalling Paul. Bound to be a box office smash...
L.M.A.O... brilliant.!

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...
1:48pm Thu 18 Mar 10



Just go to show that without Council interference traffic can flow freely through York, just like it could outside York on a fully duelled ring road.

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...
1:49pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Sorry my comment above is missing this quote.
" The lights at the junction of Blossom Street and Micklegate stopped working yesterday between 7.30am and 9am, due to an electrical fault.

The glitch left drivers having to negotiate the busy four-way junction themselves, but there was a reduction in queuing traffic as far away Acomb Road – cutting journey times by up to half an hour."

jez b says...
3:37pm Thu 18 Mar 10

yawn.. wrote:
Ghost of Oscar Deutsch wrote: Coming to a cinema near you this summer. CLIFTON GREEN 2 - THE NIGHTMARE RETURNS. A YCC production...from an idea for a traffic plan written on the back of a fag packet. Directed by Quentin Tarantino Starring Steven Segal as Steve Galloway Jack Black as Andy 'Fats' Waller and Meryl Streep as Pedalling Paul. Bound to be a box office smash...
L.M.A.O... brilliant.!
Excellent, would have someone else as Galloway though as Segal not half arrogant and out of touch enough.

jez b says...
3:41pm Thu 18 Mar 10

jez b wrote:
yawn.. wrote:
Ghost of Oscar Deutsch wrote: Coming to a cinema near you this summer. CLIFTON GREEN 2 - THE NIGHTMARE RETURNS. A YCC production...from an idea for a traffic plan written on the back of a fag packet. Directed by Quentin Tarantino Starring Steven Segal as Steve Galloway Jack Black as Andy 'Fats' Waller and Meryl Streep as Pedalling Paul. Bound to be a box office smash...
L.M.A.O... brilliant.!
Excellent, would have someone else as Galloway though as Segal not half arrogant and out of touch enough.
It would have to be a CGI composite Galloway. Mourinho for the arrogance and Benitez for being totally out of touch with the rest of the planet.

pedalling paul says...
5:03pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Those suburban residents who choose to walk, cycle or use public transport, have already helped to stave off gridlock. CoYC are prioritising these users, in some cases by road space reallocation, to encourage a further switch from private cars. 57% of peak car journeys are less than 5 miles. Most are single occupancy and parked up for the business day. That's what stops essential traffic from flowing more freely, including buses and taxis.

King Edward says...
7:19pm Thu 18 Mar 10

The taxi drivers should strike and just form a cordon around the city centre of slow moving taxis to protest that'll get media attention and perhaps Galloway his comuppance. Fatcat councillors out of touch with the working person!

Sawday2 says...
7:20pm Thu 18 Mar 10

pedalling paul wrote:
Those suburban residents who choose to walk, cycle or use public transport, have already helped to stave off gridlock. CoYC are prioritising these users, in some cases by road space reallocation, to encourage a further switch from private cars. 57% of peak car journeys are less than 5 miles. Most are single occupancy and parked up for the business day. That's what stops essential traffic from flowing more freely, including buses and taxis.
And how many of those car drivers have something to carry that they could not carry on a bike; are going somewhere where arriving wet and sweaty is not an option; are shopping on the way home; dropped their children off at school on the way to work; do not live on a bus route...

For Pete's sake - or should that be Paul's - stop bleating on. We've heard your lop-sided views. Start living in the real world. Enough!!

nowthen says...
7:35pm Thu 18 Mar 10

" The lights at the junction of Blossom Street and Micklegate stopped working yesterday between 7.30am and 9am, due to an electrical fault.

The glitch left drivers having to negotiate the busy four-way junction themselves, but there was a reduction in queuing traffic as far away Acomb Road – cutting journey times by up to half an hour."

Doesn't that fact tell you something Mr Hepworth ! The congestion in York is caused by ill conceived traffic control. There are 8 sets of lights on The A 19 between Fordlands road and Tower street all firing at different times plus unused cycle lanes badly positioned islands and sticking out bus stops. This is engineered congestion all at a cost to US council tax payers!When will CoYC listen to the majority instead of the self righteous green fanatic minority? I know I'm wasting my breath talking to knowitalls but I certainly won't waste my vote!

sheps lad says...
7:37pm Thu 18 Mar 10

pedalling paul wrote:
Those suburban residents who choose to walk, cycle or use public transport, have already helped to stave off gridlock. CoYC are prioritising these users, in some cases by road space reallocation, to encourage a further switch from private cars. 57% of peak car journeys are less than 5 miles. Most are single occupancy and parked up for the business day. That's what stops essential traffic from flowing more freely, including buses and taxis.
Can you pleeeeze come up with something new? I, and I am sure most other people are heartily sick of your repetitive and "specious"arguments.

Ask your nanny to buy you a dictionary so can learn a few new words!

petethefeet says...
7:47pm Thu 18 Mar 10

sheps lad wrote:
pedalling paul wrote: Those suburban residents who choose to walk, cycle or use public transport, have already helped to stave off gridlock. CoYC are prioritising these users, in some cases by road space reallocation, to encourage a further switch from private cars. 57% of peak car journeys are less than 5 miles. Most are single occupancy and parked up for the business day. That's what stops essential traffic from flowing more freely, including buses and taxis.
Can you pleeeeze come up with something new? I, and I am sure most other people are heartily sick of your repetitive and "specious"arguments. Ask your nanny to buy you a dictionary so can learn a few new words!
Come on. You'ed miss 'im if he stopped posting

yorkshirelad says...
9:27pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Come on York Press - your headlines have worked their magic so far. What about sticking up for the rest of us? How about a bit of spin the other way....

'York Taxi Drivers oppose road safety improvements'

'York Taxi drivers put profit before school children's safety'

'York Taxi drivers main speeding culprits but deny cycle lane and pedestrian crossing improvements.'

'Tourists in taxis whizz by as York school children and cyclists are left high and dry'

With apologies to the many Taxi drivers who are more reasonable about the safety of others...

nowthen says...
10:02pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Ok we get the picture ; you don't like taxi drivers and tourists. Which Blossom street option did you vote for ?

jack york says...
7:06am Fri 19 Mar 10

I feel there is an important aspect that is being missed here. It is Cllr Galloway's comment that there is little need for the petition!There is every need! Cllr Galloway does not like petitions as then he has to take account of them. That is why CYC consultations allways ask loaded questions, so they get the answers that allow them to quote % answers that favour what they intend todo anyway!there are many examples of this e.g. does any body remember the Barbican "consultation and petition? loaded questions to get the result cyc wanted and then a 6000 signature petiton ignored and ridiculed. Sign the petition!

pedalling paul says...
7:14am Fri 19 Mar 10

Sawday2 wrote:
pedalling paul wrote: Those suburban residents who choose to walk, cycle or use public transport, have already helped to stave off gridlock. CoYC are prioritising these users, in some cases by road space reallocation, to encourage a further switch from private cars. 57% of peak car journeys are less than 5 miles. Most are single occupancy and parked up for the business day. That's what stops essential traffic from flowing more freely, including buses and taxis.
And how many of those car drivers have something to carry that they could not carry on a bike; are going somewhere where arriving wet and sweaty is not an option; are shopping on the way home; dropped their children off at school on the way to work; do not live on a bus route... For Pete's sake - or should that be Paul's - stop bleating on. We've heard your lop-sided views. Start living in the real world. Enough!!
In the real world, unrestrained car use is strangling urban areas. A succession of central governments have realised that Local Authorities cannot build their way out of urban traffic congestion. So government has adopted the advice of the transport planning profession, and given Local Authorities a raft of technical advice, legal powers and cash incentives, to create alternative travel choices. What is happening in York is no different to other UK cities. We are not alone.
And did I ever suggest that every single citizen should get on their bikes? Answer no. I would like to see a voluntary modal shift, sufficient for essential motor vehicle users to be able to travel more easily. At the front of my essential queue are the mobility restricted, buses, taxis, servicing, delivery and emergency vehicles.
Those who choose car sharing, Park/Ride, cycling and walking will contribute positively towards this goal of using our finite road space more efficiently.
If every commuter car shared two days out of five, traffic in York would drop by 10%.

Alf Roberts says...
8:47am Fri 19 Mar 10

And if you kept your repetetive and tedious views to yourself 2 out of 5 days this forum would be 100% more enjoyable.

emskibaba says...
9:05am Fri 19 Mar 10

can we not just ban all cyclists from the city centre?! ok, that's unfair (even considering the number of near misses) - but is the pavement not wide enough down blossom street that a proper cycle lane can be either put onto the pavement, or take the pavement back?! might take a while, but will surely save some heartache in the long run.

yorkshirelad says...
9:12am Fri 19 Mar 10

nowthen wrote:
Ok we get the picture ; you don't like taxi drivers and tourists. Which Blossom street option did you vote for ?
No problem at all with tourists and taxi-drivers. I just think we need a balanced view.

I'm proud to have voted for an option that might well delay me in my car on that route - I drive it regularly. But I'm prepared to balance that out against the safety of others - particularly children and young people - at that junction. It's time a few others took a more balanced view also.

I definitely feel it is particularly ironic that a group who regularly break the speed limit (Tadcaster Rd Friday and Sat nights???) should lecture the rest of us against safety-related road improvements.

samthedog says...
11:14am Fri 19 Mar 10

I'll ask one question about traffic in york then shut up (for a couple of minutes).

Has CYC bothered to find out what journeys are conducted in York?

pedalling paul seems insistant that most journeys are pointless and could be done by alternative means, can you show evidence of this, evidence that is York related not form a larger town or city?

CYC ask the questions you may be suprised at the answere.

sciencefan says...
5:44pm Tue 23 Mar 10

Has no one yet noticed that the Blossom Street consultation is completely flawed and is skewed t produce a positive outcome for Steve Galloway's preferred options?

Both the paper and on-line questionnaires do not provide a "none of the above option" which forces people into making a choice of one of the 4 possibilities suggested by the council which are all very different.

The consultation should be scrapped and re-done in full as the results will have no statistical use due to the distortion created by the method of presenting the questions.

Very disingenuous by the city council indeed.

moneyforwhat says...
7:23pm Wed 24 Mar 10

Alf Roberts wrote:
And if you kept your repetetive and tedious views to yourself 2 out of 5 days this forum would be 100% more enjoyable.
aaah - so very true. I feel each should ignore the boring platitudes of he who should not be named. I don't feel he would be missed. By some chance he may go to Facebook. He must have led a fortunate life. Perhaps brought up in the job for life culture and not having to commute just to earn a crust. Our young people are unlikely to ever have such a priviledge. Our young people are the future, which incidentally is the case as every generation evolves. Have faith in them and ignore the boring old drivel. As time progresses we may feel that we are losing the plot and that all is lost. I forecast that given some opportunity the young will have superior intelligence and give us all a lot of hope for the future. We are a small over populated country. We cannot go backwards and live in the hamlets. Of course transport needs consideration, but please understand what consideration is.


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